San Diego Padres Split Mariners Series and the End of Luis Campusano

on today's show the inconsistent play of the San Diego Padres of the month of September maybe even a little bit late of August continues with a loss in the game two set splitting the series against the Seattle Mariners despite the fact that Michael King continued to deal is he deserves some look at a Sai Young potentially we're going to talk about that as well as tatis breaking up the perfect Bid And of course a little bit of a a tribute to our friend Luis campisano all that and more let's get to it you are locked on Padres your daily San Diego podres podcast part of the locked on podcast Network your team Every Day greetings ladies and gentlemen and welcome to another edition of lockdown P's podcast which is part of the lockdown podcast Network your team every day for Thursday September 12th as always as always I am your host with sometimes occasionally but not always the most Javier Reyes you can follow me on Twitter best handle in the game at jaav iip p n o the haveno and you can also check out for just updates on the show at Lor Padres and new episode of my podcast baseball versus the world the other one that I host uh is coming out today and it is associating a movie that describes the state of every team starting with the American League next week will be national league and we'll talk about the Padres and I got some good ones for them best believe that today's episode guys we're recapping last night's game and T talking about Lis campusano and just a couple of like stray thoughts I have on the team going forward and kind of what we're looking at you know in the future especially I think that the campisano thing kind of is a good segue into some questions about this team's future uh and rosters and some decisions they have to make so it's a fun one so let's get started first I must say though today's episode is brought to you by priz piix go to prix.com lockon MLB and use code all lowercase lock on MLB to win $50 instantly when you you play $5 last night our boy taking the mound Mr Michael King um I thought as usual he looked pretty sharp he didn't generate a lot of whiffs necessarily as we're used to especially on his change up um but his fast ball looked pretty solid and I think that it's interesting to note that well this was like it's just every single time Michael King has a bad start there's always like something more to it which is why I think he's such a great pitcher and I think some of the numbers especially winds above rep placement which again I do not like using um for pitchers I just think that it it's windso replacement projects way too much for pitchers so a guy could have a four a 39 erra but then the guy who has a 2.5 somehow has generated less wins it doesn't make any sense to me but when it comes to U Michael King I think sometimes the stats don't capture capture that all of his outings in which he doesn't do well something weird happens we talked about the Brewer start a lot where it was just a weird singles Fiesta against him that one star right and then this one last night five innings three earned runs in those five innings I'm sorry three runs in those five innings but only one earned two walks and six KS he looked okay I would would have liked a little bit more Dynamic of a start only because this Mariners team as we talked with Tai on Monday um just not very not good uh right so like they have not been a very good team at least offensively this year and frankly even just in general as of late but you know he's still performed for the most part unfortunately this comes down to just a simple awful Mistake by Jake cronenworth missing on the transfer that would have turned a double play and then a bunch of singles happen in that same inning um specifically the bottom of the third inning from Lukey and Cal rally who killed the Padre's uh this series granted just a two game set I understand that but really got them um in the in these uh two games so that was unfortunate I think that this once again leads into one of the problem s with this team this year which is that they have really underperformed defensively whether it be a rise or it's kind of a little bit like person of the day outside arise and profar it's kind of like all right sometimes you're getting a mistake out of tatis we talked about that on Sunday and then he makes some good plays after that right but he it's just been inconsistent basically all year long with the defense and I know that Manny Machado has had some really nice like highlight plays this season make no mistake he has been um like a solid defensive player but some of his Advanced statistics not as much if you are a believer in those statistics which I usually am I feel like they usually actually they I feel like they've become a little bit more mainstream defensive run saved and outs above average but uh Manny Machado is not having the usual electric defensive year minus four defensive runs saved and minus one outs above average he hasn't been that electric this year and frankly I don't know always how the defensive stats um especially the advanced defensive stats that I just read to you how they always capture defense because there have been some years where I swear Manny Machado is a lot better than he is I think he can make a lot of plays but his range I think that maybe he's lost some athleticism as he's gotten a little bit older so his defense is good we're always going to get good defense from him but it hasn't been as exceptional I think it has been in past years whether it be 2021 or it be 2020 or it even be back in the day certainly with the Orioles when he was just putting up crazy numbers like 27 defensive run safe you know Platinum glove quality stuff right so Manny Machado uh I think that his defense has been still okay I don't think he's bad let me be very clear but I do think that some of the early on production of this year has really hurt some of those Advanced statistics but man Machado did not make an error in this game it was Jaye konorth and it SS because again Jake konorth has been defensively pretty solid this year right like that's what's so frustrating is that he's been very solid this year they move into second base you know you don't have Kim back and all that stuff so they're moving things around and then he goes out and makes a mistake and it really really is unfortunate because in the past Jay konorth has been great at second base right in fact he's usually quite great um all across the diamond defensively and I think that that's one of the reasons we campaigned at least I Campa campaigned in the offseason to trade H and Kim because I think that second base he could provide more value with his glove but I digress um really bad mistake for the Padres ends up giving um the runs that's why they weren't all charged to Michael King he only gets one charge to him um so that stinks um but you know what I don't want to hate too much because this is still a very good team so I want to I want to say that you know temper everybody just calm down everybody just a little bit just a little bit um Brian Woo is really the story of last night's game uh Brian woo absolutely massacring the Padre's a perfect game up until the sixth inning he goes six and two thirs giving up two earn runs on just two hits one walk 5Ks we talked with Tai on Monday Tuesday whenever we did that episode I think it was Tuesday actually yeah it was Tuesday cuz Monday was the mailbag which by the way s your questions and whatnot at haveno j a v i i p and o or at Lor Padres for the next mailbag or even frankly even for tomorrow's episode because I don't know what I'm doing for tomorrow's episode but um we talked about it with Tai that this guy has been just low-key so so dominant with basically just throwing fast balls and I think you saw that again uh last night and this is a very good Padre's team he generated 10 whiffs on his fast ball like the fact that he's basically been doing what he's been doing with basically just a fast ball and a little bit bit of a sinker combination look it's a new pitcher we've all seen over the years that the Padres aren't very good against Young new pitchers especially a young new pitcher that's good in Brian woo so I'm not super surprised by this but of course still a little bit unfortunate when the Padres are trying to get a little bit of an O it almost feels like not the team I'm not saying the team is but like the universe is like all right Padres you made the playoffs but that's all you're going to get you know what I mean you're going to have a good season you're going to maybe potentially break that 89 win threshold first time in PR's tenure but you're not going to be like taking over the division which is unfortunate because that would be really fun if they did but what is fortunate folks that we're not done talking on this here podcast we got to take a little bit of a break before we get into the rest including how we broke up that 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tati Jr with a solo nuke not just a bomb but an absolute nuke hardest hit ball of the game uh just absolutely crushed it 15.6 miles per hour my Lord you know what I mean I mean my gosh that was one of his hardest hit balls in a long time 30 out of 30 ballparks it was a home run bat speed was great everything we very much like it um that was cool once again saving the Padres uh for tatis junor um this is his second game in the last two in which he's hit a home run so basically two two straight days of home runs I don't know why I phrase it like that but um since coming off the I he's been a little bit you know flashy I think and that's what we need from him we need tatis to be tatis and I just think that he just tends to be a guy that always Rises to the moment even if the moment is a little bit more of a a like a conjecture you know kind of like a one that I'm Conjuring up which is that you don't want the team to get hit by a perfect game yeah I know I get it I'm stretching but but he he still Rose to the occasion and save the Padres from a perfect game um I love tatis very much he also makes a great catch later on in this game to save potential a home run or at least an extra base hit um that was great too we've talked about this uh not too recently so I'm not going to jump on to it um too much um we already also just talked about defense in the first segment but tatis second day in the last few in which he made a great defensive play whether it be just you know him locking in and having to make up for that mistake on Sunday which he lost the ball in the Sun but throwing out the runner yesterday at second base and then also making this catch this is what we need from tatis we need that defense and it was missing for a lot of this year again the defense for this team very weird and I know some people might be thinking like this is something they need to address I don't think it is though like on top of my Cronin War thing and moving him to second base and on top of the fact they have if they bring back Hassan Kim in theory they should only have like two minus Defenders on this team in both Luis Ariz and jerks and profar um potentially right like we'll see what happens with those guys going forward but that's kind of it so it's weird that you have Merill who has the numbers you have Bogarts who's been playing a good second base and by the way could still play a little bit at shortstop and then you've got konorth at first base he's been a little bit okay although I actually checked his numbers he's minus two outs above average so I don't know what happened with him there so let's just uh you know let's just uh I don't know uh but anyway uh so for the most part I'm not concerned about the defense long term it's just unfortunate that they haven't been great this year and as you saw last night it can happen at any time that you could just make that mistake that really kills this team and since this team is heading potentially what it looks like for a wild card series like just one game in which you make a mistake and then Michael King is giving up three runs or four runs or whatever that could cost you I mean the Joe Musgrove implosion started after tatis lost the ball in the sun right I know that that was a little bit different Michael King was giving up some singles while Joe Buro proceeded to give up like seven home runs but still I I just it's something to keep an eye on hopefully they don't make that mistake that really derails them in a playoff series because every you know it's just a few games right and it could be just a two out of three Series so we'll see how that pans out but still can't hate on anything else I really think that Brian woo was just great this is not like the Logan web start that I was so fresh with over the weekend this is nothing like that I genuinely think that Brian woo was just good and especially this Padre's team with their offense guys I think it's okay to sometimes admit if the other team got the best of them they're very good at hitting fast balls especially Merill especially tatis so can't hate them too much in that regard I do want to bring up that Mr Randy arozarena robbed Manny Machado of a hit in this game the second hardest hit ball of the night was from Manny Machado and it had a 930 expected batting average and Ros Mana makes a great catch which was annoying because I feel like Randy Rosara you usually save your great impressive moments like that for the playoffs of the big games why are you doing against us this isn't that big of a game come on what are you doing why why are you acting up clutch against us we never did anything to you shastany great great dive and catch um and that's basically kind of it in terms of the the biggest things that happens um Adrian Mahon comes into this game someone actually mentioned to me not too long ago about like my Adrien H mon H like not trusting him and I know that it's basically ridiculous again this is a total feeling thing but he goes into this game he gives up two more earned runs this Padre's Bullpen is still very good um make no mistake about that but um again it's still one that I'm still like a tiny bit like in the playoffs like I'm a little bit scared I don't know what it is now thankfully uh you know Yuki Matsui I doubt will be in a situation in which they're going to like trust him uh in high leverage situations especially with how he's performed this year giving up so many home runs but I'm just saying in high leverage situations Padre's Bullpen still a little bit of still a tiny bit of worry just a tiny tiny bit I would say just a little bit um but in terms of erra and high leverage situations this year the pyri have been um overall uh pretty good they are 12th in Major League Baseball and high leverage uh ra uh amongst their Bullpen so that's that's good but it's not as Elite as some other bullpens that are don't have the stats that the Padre's Bullpen has had for much of this year especially since um the trade deadline right so I'd have to look at those numbers but all in all you know I'm going to look at them right now as I keep talking to you guys but I think that um Adrian monahon it's really unfair for me to hate on this guy too much because he has really been like pretty electric for a long time you know what I mean and in fact he's been the most consistent reliever in this Padre's Bullpen by month his AR R totals 2.79 1.59 3.38 3 3.86 and then now in September a 7.71 but his worst was 3.86 that's amazing for a reliever that basically means he gave up like one run in a bad spot right so he's been very good in that regard and the Padre's High leverage Bullpen since the trade deadline has still been very good it's back there seventh in ra so again it's a total feeling thing on my part and I think it's just me being antsy over knowing how much they gave up for those Bullpen editions and I'm just just worried um but we'll see how that all pans out um in the postseason assuming they make it um but still Adrian monahon then Brian hoing comes in W Pera comes in they don't give up anything Ryan hoing has just been I I think like the most UN he's I think he's taken over the crown for most underrated Padre is that fair to say I think it's close it's always usually relievers that get overlooked but I think he might be I think he might be what do you guys think I'm kind of curious like is he the most currently the most underrated p Donovan Solano maybe a little bit right I think it's him I think it's him guys I think it's him but I want to say one more thing and that's about Michael King it's interesting that when you look at um the sa young odds that it's Chris S and I think it's Chris saes to lose at this point he would have to get hit for like eight runs in his next two starts right like he would have to get absolutely blown up otherwise he's winning and he should on top of the fact that it's like a pretty impressive story frankly that he's gone from being a guy who looked like he was done to delivering just a sensational strikeout rate to having one of the lowest eras in fact I think the lowest RA in the National League still his FIP is at 2.02 like he deserves it don't get me wrong and then lastly um I will say though is that Michael King has been really really good and I found it interesting I was just curious I was looking up like odds for sa young and I found it interesting that you know there are some other guys who are higher up on this like your Paul ski for example like your Dylan CE and your shto imaga and I think Michael King's better than them he's around like six or so if you go to like some other various gambling places but I just thought that that was interesting that he's lower in odds than them um again he's not going to win I think that he if he was going to win they would have need it you know you would have needed cease to stand back but let me tell you what Michael K has done this year um has been really really impressive and the fact that he's never thrown this many innings really before and he's still been able to be consistent just genuinely astronomical stuff right like yeah does he walk a little bit of batters but he's going to finish the season probably with more than 200 strikeouts he's at 191 right now and he's got an erra of 3.06 and the FIP is pretty good so I'm a little bit surprised that someone like IM managa who doesn't get nearly as many strikeouts as him um is ahead and then Dylan CE is another one Dylan CE you guys have been watching him he's had some months where he's been absolutely awful which is why I hate WIS above replacement when judging p because my thing is like Michael K has basically been a guaranteed quality start for like what feels like months now in fact every month his ER I'm just going to read it to you right now 4.71 in April we all know what happened there crazy home run stuff he was bad to start three 2.67 1.82 2.73 1.64 that's like a French say young guy he's going to finish in the top five that's going to happen and that is a huge W and it is I think uh should be shattered from the heavens that the Padre's won that damn sto trade man to get King to get pieces for CE to get higashioka incredible return especially for a team that's built to win now right maybe if it was a rebuilding team it wouldn't be great if you got players that you were just going to lose anyway since you were still rebuilding but for this team absolute godsend Michael King we love you you should finish I think I think he could finish third I think he could finish third in sayong voting I know that guys like imanaga and skin have a little bit more like media bias towards them imanaga being you know rookie especially like that's always fun don't get me wrong I don't want to hate on him too much but in Chicago Cubs land and then Paul SK we all know about that for my Jackson Barrow lovers so I think that it's possible they finish above him but I don't think they should I really think it should be Michael King this guy has been electric for months now and yes the FIP says 3.4 but that's good that's a good FIP I don't it doesn't have to be minuscule for it to suggest that he's not getting overly lucky but anyway I'm been going down a weird tangent we're going to conclude things and talk a little bit about the future of the Pod rators and especially one sir Luis kizano this is going to be tough get your tissues out everybody because I take no joy in what I'm about to say but first let me just take a second to talk to you about the good folks over at tonal that's right we've talked about them before but for those who thrive on getting stuff done including workouts every minute counts that's why you need tonal the smart strength training system that takes the guest work out of working out so you can make sure you're making the most of every rep when life gets busy things can get stressful so you're going to need the help helpful stuff over at tonal it is 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vibing into the final segment of this show in which we must um it it's this is going to be tough for me guys um as one of the founding members of the Lis campusano Hive um yesterday it was announced by the Padre's they Rec called Tom crove Again by the way krove like maybe he'll figure it out this time I guess um they placed Marti Perez odd paternity list which fine okay happens we get you shouts to the homie wishing him nothing but the best and Mr Luis campisano was options Tel Paso Triple A hate to see it man hate to see it and I just want to like start again I want to like just mention that the reason why I started this bit and the reason why I kept hyping up L campano is because I do believe that the way the Padre's handled him was very poor um I think that this was a guy that the reason I wrote about it over at just baseball.com by the way great website go check that out um one of the reasons that I was so perturbed by the way that the Padre's kind of managed him was because this was a guy who basically when he was in the miners when he was in the miners he basically at every level just hit right fundamentally he just kept hitting now you want to bring up that you know it's different you can't just look at slash lines to determine who's going to be a big prospect there are plenty of guys that have decent slash lines but their stuff won't play at the major league level okay fine that's fine I I admit that I don't know a lot about the prospect World necessarily but I do think that this is a guy who they kind of toyed and played around with for so long in fact this has stemming back to 2020 when they called him up up for just a cup of coffee right the Padre's back in 2020 he played one game he had a hit and then they sent him back down and then in 2021 they sent him down to Triple A again and he produced again he had a 900 Ops in Triple A then they call him up to the Padres he plays 11 games and in those 11 games if people don't remember they were using him in the most ridiculous way possible where he would never be used consistently and he was being used as like a pinch hitter against Kenley Jansen in the ninth inning now I understand like they had a bad roster issue back then but that's the whole point is you this was really bad roster management how are you pinch hitting this guy against Kenley Jansen in the ninth inning oh so the best relief B I wonder how that's going to go and he struggled mightily 272 Ops that's that's atrocious it's atrocious it's like the worst catching number ever granted it was just 11 games but that was it then they sent him back down to Triple A again and this is where the hive really in my opinion started right and that is he comes he goes back down Triple A 846 Ops he's doing very well he's not hitting for like the ultimate amount of power but 14 home runs in 81 games is not too bad he's doing well they call him back up in 2022 for 16 games in which he plays really inconsistent time right and this is where I was starting to get frustrated because in 2022 if people don't remember the Padre's had a giant issue of Austin NOLA who just could not play and I understand what people are saying well Cap's he's not a great defender neither was Austin Nola Austin Nola was actively a really really poor catcher who also didn't hit so I didn't understand folks this idea that Austin Nola had to be up there because he you know campan is so disastrous defensively in fact in 2022 and 2023 in fact he was also quite bad he just never provided anything all that good defensively and that's what I had such a problem with right this is a guy with defensive run saved basically all the time right -6 in 2022 framing he was minus 12 right Fielding runs and value and runs all that stuff combining everything he was negative and the year after he was negative 2022 so my thing was I understand if you don't want to start Luis campano because of the defense that makes total sense in 2022 especially you know you got a playoff run I get that but it still did not make sense that Austin Nola had such a monopoly on the position and that's what was frustrating to so he would get inconsistent at bats and sometimes he would hit and then they'd bench him the very next day and then 2023 came around where the same thing happened Austin Nola for those who don't remember he wasn't just like a could he couldn't defend all that well he also was like actively one of the worst batters in baseball if if everybody doesn't remember this he was worth minus. n wins above replacement and he still played a lot more games than he should have now more things happened don't get me wrong they brought in Gary Sanchez who just randomly had like an awesome Caesar for the Padre's but like he was awful his final slash line with them that year he was hitting 146 guys so it was really frustrating that campusano would have these moments and this is why I started the hive and I started hyping him up all the time because I was like this is an unproven guy who's only got an inconsistent playing time his entire career basically at the major league level who will literally go two for three with a double and a single and then he'll be benched the next day and then a comes up doesn't do anything defensively as the numbers tell you um with the negative defensive run saved with the negative runs saved all that sort of stuff all the framing metrics were atrocious on him he wasn't throwing out Runners either and he's still getting like all these back-to-back starts until finally what ends up happening is campano gets hurt and they're like oh I love that for Bob Elin we were good to just start we were about to start him okay sure right we were starting to give him more playing time and then guess what happens Austin is atrocious for a while and then guess what happens after that he has an eye thing that like requires a surgery because he basically couldn't see the ball that much then they bring in campisano and this is why the hive just exploded is because he then hit like an absolute super stud granted clearly we have seen that it didn't age well but in that time you know he was amazing 133 WRC plus last year he was hitting 319 right and at least in terms of the surface level stuff his expect his weighted on base and expected weight on base which I like to look at as like the best way to tell if someone's getting lucky at least initially 364 weighted on base and 353 expected like that showed you that you could at least expect something offensively his defense still had a lot of work and I don't you know feel great about that right but I expected you know what they finally gave him playing time and look what happened this year though unfortunately guys you can't deny the guy isn't any good does he still have time to maybe figure some things out maybe is he a change of scenery candidate maybe but this year he actively destroyed the Padre's guys in four games that Elias Diaz has played he already has more wins above replacement than Luis campisano who is currently sitting at minus point4 and here's the problem with that the problem is Luis campisano never hit the ball all that hard right that was a big thing for him and he never drew enough walks and he just was always swinging at everything his swing frankly looks kind of busted at this point it seems like he can't extend the bat to all areas of the plate it seems seems like he tries to pull pitches that are way outside he just looks amaz he's throwing his entire life force into swings it just doesn't look good it looks like the bat the path to the ball is way too prolonged he just looks absolutely messed up and I still The Hive member in me is still like I still blame the Padres for a lot of this I just really think that they haven't managed him well and they haven't developed him well um but granted there's no excuse for it he has been atrocious defensively that to me is the bigger deal here the bigger deal for um Lis Camp is ano has been that I thought he could be an X Factor for this team and by the way in the first month of the Season he was first month of the Season Luis campano was actually hitting quite well granted it was inflated and I think that we saw that um you know his his his Ops had like all those early months start off with a 278 at batting average in March and April good for a WRC plus of 106 then he had a 56 then a 92 July he bounced back a little bit with a 142 just not in that many as many games as we would have liked but all in all I think that what you saw was just that this guy was just not hitting for power and if you're not drawing walks and you're not able to put the ball in play consistently that is it just a weak ground ball then what do we have you for and then higashioka came in and higashioka even when he's not hitting all that well like in his past like basically his entire tenure before this year he was still better than what Lis Camp was giving you because at least he gave you some power and of course especially defensively I wasn't shocked that he was a better Defender which is why I was excited that he was on the team when they traded for him I thought he would be a great backup catcher for sure but then it totally flipped because he started slugging the ball more giving them extra base hits and like again Kyoko in terms of WRC plus this year it cannot be understated how good he has been um for this Padre's team he's got a 111 WRC plus this year and every year before that he never hit with the exception of 2020 in the truncated season over a 102 so he improved with his offense right like that is unexpected the defense is not and if cian is not gonna be catching the ball he makes a mistake like every few games I mean it was really tough watching this year the hive suffered multiple body blows and it was really tough to watch and I feel bad about it I still stand by not how much I was hyping him up that part was a little bit of a bit right like I never I don't think that it we got to the point where I was like this guy's secretly Joe Mau in his prime and we just don't realize it I'm not saying that but I do stand by the fact that I think that they handled him poorly and it is still something worth bringing up in the future when it comes to the way the Padre's handle prospects even if their latest instance you know just bringing Jackson marrow right up to the majors and having him just change and play a position he's never played before I understand that has worked out beautifully but that's not the norm and I still think it is worth bringing up that the Padre's really love forcing their prospects and rushing them and that is a factor of them not having a always the most built out roster and I think that falls on AJ Prowler so again I stand by everything that I said for C in the past but he's been awful minus point4 wins above replacement Elias Diaz is going to be the backup catcher now and I have no issues with that I do think it's hilarious that Elias Diaz was just someone we were able to pick up for nothing despite the fact that the Rockies could have traded him I think at a couple of points um especially back in 2021 I think that he was a prime trade candidate right because of his defense but all in all a better it's it's amazing how Elias Diaz is infinitely better than Luis campisano because of the defense he hits basically about the same as him that isn't that crazy Elias Diaz never a good offensive catcher but that's basically what you've been getting out of campisano I'm hoping for him but for the future you know we're gonna have to see what the P do with catcher right they've got a lot of questions this offseason not to mention they've got questions about starting pitching whether or not they extend Dylan CE and Michael King I personally think that that is what we should expect is one of those guys getting extended I really do I just don't think that you trade your pitching prospects all of them right and then just say whatever we're done after next year in terms of pitching I think that's what you could see happen this potentially this offseason to maybe save some money with them hitting unrestricted free agency the next year I could see that you also got you know the Kyle higashioka situation I think they should bring him back because Ethan Salis is not ready unless Brandon Valenzuela is going to be awesome I don't think he is we talked with arum Leon about that on a previous episode back on Friday or Thursday or whatever uh we talked about that he's just a little bit concerned with that bat um I think that instead he'll probably be the backup catcher I think that it's possible that Valena gets called up next year and he's the backup to higgy and they bring back higgy on like a one year or so deal because Ethan Salis just is not ready guys he's not ready so that is what I'm expecting um but at least it's a it's an okay problem to have and the PS are hopefully going to have a little bit more money to spend this offseason so I'm not like I think that there's a way to view the campian situation as oh my God once again we failed with our future prospect thing and we're once again still looking for a catcher that's one way to view it I view it as I don't think higashioka is going to cost a crap ton of money I think some people are going to call his offensive stuff a fluke and if anything it means you have a tandem of a prospect in Valenzuela maybe he starts to figure things out offensively more than we more than it looks like he is in the miners and at the very minimum he's going to play good defense same thing for higgy at the very minimum is going to play good defense that's kind of all you can hope for and then you buy your time and wait until Salis is ready and that's it folks and that's F but there's going to be many more questions to answer for the PT this coming offseason might even talk about some of them tomorrow don't know exactly what we're doing on tomorrow's show 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