NFL Season Preview, Ashton Kutcher on the Bears, Coaching HSFB, and Dennis Green's Legendary Rant

if the Jets make the Super Bowl you have to wear a Philadelphia 76ers jersey to a New York Knicks game are you trying to get me killed are you trying to get me assassinated you have to you have to wear a Jets you have to you have courtside tickets all right we know that you have to wear Jets Jersey to a New York Knicks game Matt you are not taking this podcast where I thought you would you're getting what you're playing like this is like blood Oaths broken what are you trying to do to me [Music] welcome everybody it's Throwbacks with Matt ler and Jerry Ferrar it's week one in the NFL but it's also week one for us it is our first congratulations let's go congratulations uh I hope we go one and0 after this episode I hope it's a win I think it might be I think we're uh I think we're heavily favored but uh Matt week one the NFL coming up how you feeling overall are you ready to get this going cuz this show is packed today it you know what this time of year it's like it's like when December first hits for Christmas with kids it's like the the house is already decorated it's just like you can't wait for the season to get you can't wait for Christmas morning I feel like that's every man in America when August first hits and it's preseason we cannot wait for week one college football's here already week one of the NFL it is like it's like Christmas now every weekend man so I'm fired up and it's the best time of year fall is the best time of the year it is is the best time of year and look we do have a great guest lined up for you week one I'm gonna you know you know him from a lot of different things but that's not really why we're having him on the show but you know him from that 70 show you know him from Two and a Half Men you know him from a ton of movies he's an amazing investor but he's a big- time NFL football fan in a big Chicago Bears fan joining us in a little while is going to be Ashton Kutcher everybody so which is awesome by the way and I don't know who's a bigger a bigger fan of you or the Giants and him with the Bears like two DieHard weirdly just creepily fans dude I just still don't understand it I'm I'm excited to talk to him and see yeah it was one of those where I've heard him speak NFL before and he walks the walk it's not like uh it's not fake fandom he knows his stuff so he's going to be coming up in a little while but yeah I do agree with you I feel like this time of year it is the best now my football watching habits have changed over the years since having kids I don't know how much yours I was going to say how are you gearing up man just game day it's a little different right wife kids well there has been a trade early in the NFL season here's what I had to trade off okay now obviously we we love watching sports part of the reason why I do this podcast is it's a great excuse to talk sports with you but uh here's what I offered my wife and she took the trade right away I said I need to watch this slate the night the the 8:00 game is what it is I I'll get to I'll watch it when I can I'll watch it the next morning but from the 1 and 4:00 I need some quiet I need to watch you take the kids out of the house for a little while in return I do meal prep while watching football for the entire week meaning I'm going to set up with the TV I have a good view from the kitchen to the living room I also have the laptop I'm going to be chopping up veggies I'm going to be prepping some chicken I will do all the meal prep while watching football and making notes for 6 hours and she immediately took that trade and the and the wife and kids are out of the house for most of it for Mo I can't say 6 hours they'll s hours they'll be gone but they're absolutely winning I'm just chopping up carrots I'm chopping up Celery I'm I'm I'm marinating some chicken watching football and then they will return at some point big trade I think that's a great trade by the way you won that trade I think if I propos that to my wife she would uh she would look at me the way she looks at me sometimes when she gets mad and uh I would just go right back to playing in the game room with the boys I don't know I I don't I won't get six hours and I travel a lot on the weekends with college football and stuff so like Sunday is the day and I get that but I'm also not you know I'm not like I don't have a team I I just enjoy watching throughout the day but now that we have this that actually that's a good idea maybe I'll propose a trade I'm GNA think propose a trade and we we do have some fun ways we're going to kind of go into this NFL weekend we're not just going to do some picks we have some fun little topics to go and also I will say you're on the west coast I think about this every year going into week one West Coast Football watching meaning like the time zone there's nothing like it I'm East look east coast watching is great when you're a teenager it's great to go wake up go play a little tackle football with your friends in the morning or two ant touch or whatever and then get home for the one o00 games but as a parent the 10:00 a.m. oh that's so nice perfect Monday I I have a little bit of a Sunday morning semi- ritual game day I 10:00 a.m. at starts which is amazing so right the morning we're already up for 3 hours with the boys breakfast Sunday is kind of like we we we do chill like it's a relaxing day Daddy's home from the weekend kind of whatever we want to do we do Park whatever but 10:00 a.m. is my that's my that's 10 to 11 is kind of like my fantasy football pelaton I ride the pelaton kind of 45 minutes right here in my little man cave that I got so then like I'm working out because I like she knows health for me like when I feel good I have to work out I have to sweat on a Sunday I ride the pelaton for about 45 minutes which is long but I keep it on that way on purpose and so I get the first hour of the day scrolling through 19 of my fantasy football teams um and it is glorious it is a glorious hour after that it's all downhill but the point to the point to your um thing Monday Night Football it's amazing it's like 520 right usually like a 515 or 8:15 it's the best sitting there wa my we're eating dinner watching the game so it's like I always tell my wife like this is a family outing like we're watching Monday Night Football eating dinner the boys are excited like it's great I got to get the kids to bed hopefully before 9:00 and then I'm playing a little catch up and by the time it hits halftime I I really have to I almost make a pot of coffee uh it is it is rough all right let's dive in okay and I know my some of my Giants may come up here it does worry me a little bit uh but we have a couple of good preview topics oh I will say last thing on the time zone thing I did do a movie in Hawaii once 7 a.m. football not is great not like we could discount that's not what we're looking for so West Coast you're the early winner of the best time zone to watch football all right I got a few quick hitters or you could go deep if you want to but um I want to get right into it let's go so for for you looking at last year going into this year what's the team or who is the team that is most likely to bounce back from a down year last year we're just getting off the right foot cuz I know you hate this team but I'm going the New York Jets oh I know seven and 10 a year ago Aaron Rogers goes down we know the story everybody's back on the hype train healthy if he's healthy they're a playoff team plain and simple so uh and I I wanted to propose this because I know we're mooving I know these are quick hitters if the Jets make the Super Bowl you have to wear a Philadelphia 76ers jersey to a New York Knicks game you trying to get me killed are you trying to get me assassin have to you have to wear you have to wear Jets you have to you have courtside tickets all right we know that you have to wear Jets Jersey to a New York Knicks game Matt you are not taking this podcast where I thought you would you're getting what you're playing like this is like blood Oaths broken what are you trying to do to me listen I want to give the guys what they want the guys want everybody wants to see Jared Ferrara in a Jets Jersey by the way the chances make the Super Bowl or win you said make I just said make how about they win the Super Bowl I'll do that no they got to make this dude making the Super Bowl is tough they got to go through Mahomes all right I all right we can move on we can we can get back to that later another time you got plenty you just rocked my whole world I don't even know if I could complete the show to be honest so for me I looked at it really where who are the who are the really bad teams last year that are hopeful I'm not saying they're going to necessarily make the playoffs but will bounce back and be in good shape it's the Arizona Cardinals for me you know they were 4 and 13 last year Kyler Murray missed most of the Season it was really rough I had like I have Kyler bouncing back I I linked him with Trey McBride in fantasy I'm kind of Allin on the Kyler comeback I do like Ganon as a coach but Harrison J Marvin Harrison Jr I do worry a little bit about their schedule but I just think there's massive upgrades everywhere they were frisky even in losses last year so for me it's the Arizona Cardinals I did have an honorable mention I looked at the commander schedule they got some I mean they got the Bucks they got the Titans the Panthers they get the Giants twice so also don't sleep on the command ERS but for me Arizona should bounce back this next one I I I feel like I'm putting myself in the crosshairs here the quarterback most likely to lose his starting job during the season Matt you know the quarterback position well what says you on the quarterback most likely lose their job I I I was torn on this one this was kind of the obvious one um in a sense of it was a quarterback battle as Russell Wilson and Justin field in Pittsburgh although I am a believer Russell Wilson's still pretty good man like he had a really good year year ago just didn't mesh well with with Shawn Payton I just feel like the amount of pressure if they if they're like 500 or they kind of get off to a slow start and the dynamic ability and Fields look pretty good in the preseason it's just going to be too tough to keep him off the field for what they can do he's he's in a in a better system they obviously got some players around him so that would be mine I think just to kind of keep an eye maybe like week five week six if they're if they're below 500 how about you well well just going off real quick too I mean I don't know what it's like for a quarterback playing knowing that there's also a guy here that's brought into right re like he's not just the backup he's also a little bit Insurance he's also a little bit maybe the future so I am looking at that one for me I have to call out my guy and I just have to but if you're doing betting odds he's like the lowest rated starting quarterback in Madden which might not mean a lot to you but you're talking about keeping your starting job I we know it's make or break for Daniel Jones and also Drew lock I'm not saying Drew lock was brought into to replace Daniel Jones but I don't think people view Drew lock and Daniel Jones as a major Talent discrepancy uh listen I'm all in on Danny dimes I know he had a rough preseason we Danny dimes Island uh you know the only place it's a lonely place it's a lonely place but it could get crowded quickly just you know listen preseason preseason sometimes these guys can jump this is the Year this is the year I think if we don't see uh Improvement Drew lock I I again I don't know how much better Drew lock is than Daniel Jones but you PID Daniel Jones a whole hell of a lot of money uh you draft Malik Neighbors in the top 10 to give him you know a big time threat even though he's a rookie but then you lose saquan so like I don't know it's going to be interesting we'll see he he needs neighbors to show up that's for sure uh the question is can you get him the ball we'll find out all right this one this one's an interesting one who's the team that's most likely to disappoint you from their kind of offseason hype uh for me it's the Green Bay Packers it's a good one listen I mean look I I'm I like Jordan love they just paid him a a uh what 50 something 50 Milli year um they get Josh Jacobs you know like the L Aon Jones get Josh Jacobs they have a really actually really good receiving core young receiving core I don't know I I just feel like sometimes where there's so much hype and jets can kind of be the same way there's so much hype around a team they kind of had a good run last year oh my gosh they are going I've been on teams like that they are going to be super bowl or bus and then I've seen people having the Packers win the Super Bowl I I just I don't know it's it's it's a tough division this year obviously I think it's tougher with the Bears getting better um that would be my team just to kind of like pump the brakes on I I don't disagree I I've been kind of saying on on Twitter a little bit and if you haven't follow us yet on Twitter it's uh throwback show please give us a follow on all that uh throwing that in before I go but yeah I've been on Twitter saying I I don't know why we're crowning the Packers all of a sudden as like the second best team in the north and definitely going to make the playoffs I like them but my issue with the Packers is all right Jordan love I get it sure Jacobs the receiving core although they were very very banged up the defense still has to be there and I do think that division is way way tougher so but for me all right this is not some hot take there's logic behind what I'm going to say it's the Kansas City Chiefs now when I say disappoint they're still making the playoffs they're still probably going to be in the Super Bowl maybe in maybe even the AFC Championship game is like their worst case scenario but for the regular season I don't know how you get up week in week out for the regular season your back to back Champs you're basically going it's Super Bowl really or a disappointment so for for me in the regular season I looked at their schedule they get the Ravens this year they get the Bengals Niners bills Browns Texans Steelers now I know their division should be favorable there's some wins to be had so if I told you like the Chiefs kind of struggle and get to their 10 wins under the three seed or whatever four seed that's kind of a disappointment for what their expectations are I don't know if I'm penciling in the Chiefs for 13 wins like a lot of people are I mean if they stay healthy that's probably like that's like the number right 12 or 13 I mean that that I just uh Bill bich did this in New England and you know like my Dodgers kind of do it in baseball it's like you know obviously they haven't won all the Championships but like those teams man that can sustain that type of success especially in the NFL because Battle of attrition injuries the parody all of these things like that to me if I'm watching I'm like all right if they win 11 games and lose in a divisional Playoff round I I understand what you're saying I get it because the expect is high I'm still like dude that's like this team is still the dynasty like you they could lose a season or two and then get back you know so like and that's just a credit to Andy Reid the ownership in the in in the you know and what they've been able to build there it was the same thing with belich and New England they had a couple years there where they you know would lose early but I mean tell you man that that is a absolute machine over there yeah I just I I I tried to find the 13 wins or so and I couldn't necessarily find it but you know you learn a lot tonight against the Ravens that's going to be for sure we're going to find out to kick off great way to kick off that Thursday game they've NFL's always done a really really good job but you know we've seen it before Chiefs lost last year on the Thursday game to the Lions Detroit remember those Patriot teams a few years ago coming off their Super Bowl those new those young Chiefs at the time kind of blew them out on a Thursday night so uh we'll find out a lot tonight as uh as we get ready to watch okay next one who's the offseason acquisition that is most likely to pay off uh I look there's quite a few who do you got all right I'm not gonna try to I'm not g to say the ones I thought about because I don't want to step on yours here's what I'm going with again not some scathing tap why are we all so down on Stefan Diggs like I understand his exit and buffalo wasn't amazing I get it and the team disappointed why uh because you have Nico Collins you have tank Dell right you have uh Schultz you have uh now they got Joe Mixon so I don't know from a production standpoint I think you know I guess I'm not looking at production I'm looking at a team that made it to the second round blew out the Browns in week one all things are trending upward and now you added Stefan digs even if he is like your third even if he is your third receiver I'll tell you what I like on Third and nine I like having Stefan digs running a route for me even if it's just opening up tank and Nico Jerry what what Jerry what rout would you like him to run for you on third nine give me a Stefon dig slant over the middle he's not afraid to go over the middle give me that give me that slant I'm confident Stroud can find him give me the slant send Nico down the sideline and have like maybe a post corner from tank so I'd love to draw the so a slant a go and a post corner all on the same side no not in the same no no not the same side we're spreading them out a little bit all right buddy I like that don't make you're the X's of those guy man well that I would literally just drew that play up on my paper I was like that might not be that might not work I like that put all three on the same side we'll probably go we'll probably go Nico and tank on one side and then we're going to have digs you sing you you single up digs on the back side yeah well SL I like can win him got it who's your offseason acquisition most likely to pay off uh I'm going Kurt Cousins I yeah I just like that I I love Kurt I think he's just one of those quarterbacks he wins games I know the playoff record isn't great but um For What Atlanta is and what they have the defense uh you got Drake London you got Kyle Pitts who I think we're all like gosh this guy's got so much talent like that he needs a quarterback he needs a play caller he needs his system um obviously bejan Robinson so I think because of the weapons and just Kirk has been just Mr literally Mr reliable throughout the regular season can get that team over the hump and in the playoff so I think that will pay off he's made a fortune and listen like more power to him yeah you know we mentioned Diggs Diggs has a lot to thank Kur cousins for and then he goes to Buffalo and then he's replaced by Justin Jefferson that's probably you can't say it's a fair trade because Jefferson's so much younger and the upside now is higher but at the time you go back to two years ago that really looked like one of those trades that was everyone kind of won here Diggs goes to Buffalo they're playing for they're not in the Super Bowl but they're Super Bowl favorite and then the Vikings get this young amazing wide receiver uh I love Kurt I do uh I think Kirk is going to put up numbers to say the least so also honorable mention he doesn't count for this year but Aaron Rogers is like gets almost like an aster because he if you really just do who the Jets really bring in here they're bringing Aaron roders in we saw him for four plays so that people people like forget like Aaron Rogers is like literally on my Mount Rushmore of alltime quarterbacks he's he's a he's a freak like and he's so good like so if he stays healthy he'll be one of the best quarterbacks in the in the in the NFL can I wear a Rogers Jersey to the Knicks game in this bet if I have to wear a Jets Jersey can it at least be a Rogers Jersey because if they make the Super Bowl he's going to be a big reason why yes you can wear Rogers Jersey all right that's fair for those of you know I'll give I'm a Giants fan like the Jets it's sacrilegious okay next one who's the player that's not on your radar right now but most certainly will be by the end of the year so we just talked about Stefon Diggs and I kind of drank the Kool-Aid on this because I watched every fantasy football show in America um Stefan Diggs is out of Buffalo Gabe Davis is out of Buffalo khil Shakir I think I I'm saying his name right he sort of becomes I think the last three games last year like 16 catches or something we saw him a little bit in the preseason he becomes just a Target machine to me I know they have they have a good tight end they don't have like Keon Coleman they drafted as a rookie is he gonna be a true number one yet I don't Shakir is the guy this year that is going to have a 100 catches I hope he has 100 catch I have him in like three fantasy leagues um but that's the guy that I think kind of weak three or four maybe like the puka nakua from last year like wow who is this like that's Shakir for me yeah I for me this is a player that I I always especially when you talk about fantasy I always think about drafting I've never drafted him I know he's a little banged up now I know I spoke about the Chiefs maybe in the regular season being a little disappointing Hollywood Brown that's just a name that I don't ever quite pay attention to and I kind of look at by week none it's like wow he's got he's got 800 yards he's got four touchdowns he's actually having a a pretty good season so I go Hollywood Brown uh but for me also being here in Cleveland I you know and we're all hoping that Nick chub can get back close to what he is he's gonna be out for at least four or five weeks we're not going to be thinking about Nick chub for the whole first half of the season but come week nine or 10 if the Browns are still hanging around in that Division and he's healthy we know what Nick chub could do so I think Nick chub could easily easily be that guy all right last one before we bring in uh our buddy your buddy Ashton kitcher which by the way leave it to Matt ler folks he Ashton's your buddy you your first guest you brought in is actually connected to Hollywood isn't that what I'm supposed to do I'm supposed to get the Hollywood guy in on the show I know you're going to do your job I know you're going to be committed to that your job we had we had to start off with a bang man this is Throwbacks you know and uh asht and I throw back all the way to gosh 200 when I me like 2004 2005 when I first met him and we have a lot of mutual friends and there was a connection there so I said you know what I'm going re I'm going to reach out to Ashton he's a big Bears fan he loves sports and he uh he was like dude I'm in I was like let's go let's go what a way to kick off Throwbacks man I really feel like you put me on Blaster so you know what all have a feeling I have a feeling that your Rolodex is probably deeper than mine especially it might even be in the sports world because you've been connected to athletes so uh we will rely on you heavily this year buddy that's what I got to do for week two I have to come up with either an NFL player or former player someone connected to the NFL and that's going to be on me because I have to even this uh even this one up all right last one and arguably my most favorite one because this will H this will happen at some point in the season it always does the coach most likely to have a press conference meltdown at some point this year is and I'm going to leave this off because I feel very very strongly about this and I don't think our amazing producer Andrew gundling Philadelphia's own Andrew gundling is gonna like this one oh it's Nick serani right isn't it he he's he's a beauty up there I gota be honest I like got all the traits he's got all the traits he's had some bizarre press conference quotes he he could look a little unhinged even when the team's playing well it could look super weird the Eagles do have some heat on them now they got saquin who could have also said was the biggest acquisition of the Year lot of expectations in Philly if they're four and three which for would not be a good start oh yeah he could he it could happen get yourself ready sorry Andrew we love you but he's my number one if they yeah because what they well they won the Super Bowl or Ian they lost to Super Bowl the last year the expectations they struggled um I'm gonna go I have a great story about a coach R I'm gonna get to in a second I'm gonna go day ball and your team and the only reason why and he's not like he's not like super animated right in his press conferences but like he just has that look and I can just only imagine if Daniel Jones struggles early and the amount of pressure from that New York media and just at some point he just snaps like he is just gonna snap and that leads me into by the way I don't know if you're familiar with this that I was a part of one of the greatest co uh greatest coaching rants of all time which well let's see Denny green Denny green Monday Night Football which by the way I wanna I I I do want to talk to Ashen about that because I think he might have been at that game but um I we lost to the Bears on Monday Night Football 2006 it was my second start we were one and four the week before we lost to the Kansas City Chiefs um but you know Kurt Warner started everyone was excited I finally got the chance we were beating the Chiefs we lost on a field goal so we we were one and four going to that game but we knew we're like and the bears were 5-0 and they ended up going to the Super Bowl that year they lost to pton Manny and the Colts in Miami and like the uh the torrential down downpour we had played them in the preseason game week three back then that was the game where all the starters played we beat them in Chicago so we knew going into that game like hey we could beat this team like they were the number one defense all that but so we're playing we ended up losing right Devon Hester who just got in the Hall of Fame the pun return we kind of Choke in the second half and I'm at I'm in the post game right and I'm standing outside the media locker room and all I hear and I'm just I'm pissed dude like I'm just I'm just pissed off and I'm there with Mark Dalton who's our PR guy at the time and Denny is just going off the Bears are what we thought they were they're what we thought they were we played them in preseason who the hell takes a third game in the preseason like it's bull [ __ ] we played the third game everybody played three quarters the Bears are who we thought they were that's why we took the damn field now if you want to Crown them then Crown their ass but they are who we thought they were and we let them off the hook and at the time I didn't really like I wasn't listening word for word but I'm like I'm hearing this and like it's you could hear a pin drop in there and he's just going off and then Mark dton goes next up Matt liner just like that I'm like and I look in and I'm I'm already pissed and all these people I'm like and then Denny just walked right by me he didn't even look at me and I'm like holy crap dude what did I just get myself into and the reason why is because you know we are who they are they thought they were and we let them off the hook we knew we knew that we should beat them like we knew going into that game like that would have been a maybe a pivotal game for us one and four we're two and five we get a little momentum and uh man I'll tell you what though it was looking back rest in peace to Denny green he drafted me I I love that guy I only played with played for him for one year man but he was terrific but that rant was like that was all time dude I sometimes go for the comedy a little too much I feel like if I were you and I just heard that rant and then I go up and they're like all right everybody comeing to the podium Now Matt liner and they're getting ready to ask me a question like yeah I guess we did let them off though but you're I get it you're pissed at that point because you lost the game but oh my God how'd you keep it together after hearing that well dude I I don't honestly I don't remember I it was it was I was just pissed you know I was a rookie I was pissed I was just like you know we we probably threw the game I mean we were like 20 to nothing you threw two touchdowns that game uh I threw two touchdowns on the first two drives and then we and then basically what happened was in the second half we just we we kind of hey let's just run the ball we were we weren't a great running team we just kind of we basically took our our foot off the gas pedal and they in an early laer out a pick I had a a um a sack I sack was a touchdown or we had a fumble edri and fumbled they scored scooped and score I had a sack fumble scoop and score so their defense I think had like two defensive touchdowns that's how they won that's how they won games yeah and then Deon Hester had a like I don't even think they scored an offensive touchdown quintessential bear Super Bowl run team was that exact blueprint do defensive touchdown or in a special teams touchdown at any point though before we go to break at any point later in the season did anyone ever go up to Danny Green be like coach that was they're still playing that that was great like did he have any fun with that or was just we don't talk about that that was a dark moment no that was a dark moment dude because we only won five games that year and I think he knew he was going to get fired so that was not like that was a that was a tough that was that was a tough day for for Denny in the in the cardinal cardinal Nation that's for sure yeah well h i mean I can't believe part that totally slit my mind I cannot believe I haven't asked you about that sooner but I'm glad it made it to the first show all right we're going to take a quick break right now and we're going to bring on Matt's buddy Matt's good friend he got this guest Ashton Kutcher coming to join us to talk some football what's up everybody football season is finally here which means you've got to head over to my favorite destination for sports betting and check out what's going on with our partners at DraftKings right now all new customers who bet $5 will instantly receive $250 in bonus bets and one month of NFL Plus premium download the draftking Sportsbook app and sign up using my promo code Throwbacks remember if you bet just $5 you'll instantly get $250 in bonus bets and one month of NFL Plus premium after betting just $5 stay in on the action and use your $250 in 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CFT ball NFL Plus premium offer available only to new and former NFL plus subscribers additional NFL Plus premium terms at nfl.com terms all right joining us now I mean he's our first ever guest this is Hall of Fame stuff the first ever guest on the Throwbacks podcast you all know him from film and TV but that's not what we're here to really talk about we're here to talk about NFL we're here to talk about where his heart lies in the NFL Ashton Kutcher joining us what's up buddy thank you so much for coming on how's it going you guys well dude I mean I didn't I mean can we talk about the stash bro what what are we doing with that thing I like it it's awesome this is a big year for the Chicago Bears and if you don't go dicka go home is that a dicka stash is that in honor of the Bears 100% about Mike dicka and 100% about the fact that we're going to be better than 500 this year and that makes me happy way to way to set the bar high for your team okay dude so no the last time we the last time we were good the last time we were good just just I I think you remember the last time we were good because there was a very very Monumental moment in the last time that we were good that you were very very involved with dude I was just so so Jerry and I were just talking about Denny green and the famous rant Monday Night Football 2006 thear of who we thought we were the Bears of who we thought we were and we the hook CR him but we let him off the hook it's greatest spe well dude that's because we whooped your ass in the preseason game three in Chicago and that's why he was pissed and by the way I was just telling Jared was like dude I was literally Mark Dalton our PR guy right after he I was standing right outside the tunnel you might you might have been right outside the tunnel too I was standing right outside the tunnel and he's like next up Matt liner and I'm like holy crap dude like I don't know how I'm going to follow he was so pissed but I wanted to ask you I know you were there I know you were there what do you besides Denny green what was like what do you remember from that game the favorite memory um okay so I was in bid Well's box at I was Cardinals owner box and like biting my lip the whole time because I don't want to be like that guy who got invited like to the part and then was like obnoxious about what was happening and it was like the I've never shown more restraint in my life because like with the Bears like I remember that interception ER laacer had yeah and and I was like and that was the moment where I was like oh wait this is happening and I was and and and I just like grabbed my fist like this and I'm like just containing every single ounce of energy I have to not just lose it cuz I'm trying to have like a sense of decorum while I'm in the owner's box the owner's box then there's the return kick and then and I'm just like my it's just it's just build build build build build and I felt horrible for you but I felt real good for me when when Devin Hester returned that like were you just like you were like oh my God I got to get up and and stand there was a moment where I where I where the lid came off the lid the lid definitely came off and I got all sorts of fired up and that it was that might have been like the other than my son's flag football uh coaching my son's flag football it might have been the greatest football game I experienced in my entire life so we we're we want I want to get in we're going to get into flag football a little bit later but I gave you so I don't know if I've told you this so I G I got a game waren Jersey that game from Brian eracer Monday Night Football uh yeah I think I did give him mine I don't know I don't know what he did with mine it's probably in the trash but he gave me his game War Jersey and what did I do I gave it to you you gave it to me and then I took it and got it autographed by him yeah and then he wanted to kill me and and it's in my mom's it's in my mom's house right now and it h it's her like prize is that Jersey from that game it was I got say if your mom has it that's probably the best keeping I was going to ask you where it was that's pretty much one of the safest places a jersey like that could be I mean I have like a Chicago Bears like Hall in my house that is just like it's like Mike single ter Gail sers dick buckus like my guy Walter pyton I have William Perry's I have the Prototype ring for the 1985 Chicago Bears that they fit on William Perry and I have it like I have the ring in and uh my my collection is is pretty stout I have like Kevin Butler's football from the 85 at my it's I'm I'm a collector of bears paraphernalia so then what is it like for you on on Sunday and we'll get we'll get down into it more with the kids in a second of like how you watch but are you just Bears only do you pop on Red Zone for a few minutes are you just locked into the Bears and everything else is just noise so for in my my my football watching has um changed since I had kids same so before I had kids there's like there's like BK and AK and in BK I watched every game like and and any game I couldn't watch I would record so I could watch the game and I era yeah no no yeah my whole week was just dedicated the only thing I ever watched was football and like I didn't watch a television show I or nothing just football like that's it and so I I my my my guy TJ and I who we lived together for like five years and he would wake up on like opening day and he'd be like are you ready for some football come screaming into my room and like slide on his knees and he always had like an Cowboys apron on and a and we would just watch football all day long now that I have kids I watch the Monday night game and I watch the Bears game and then I watch my Hawkeyes play on Saturday and so I get nine hours of football a week and that's my exchange for um uh for having kids I and and I get a coach my son's flag football league so then I get a little bit more football that way I would only watch football if I could just Mainline football if I if there was a drug that was football I would take it every day I I asked I asked Jerry this cuz he's I experienced watching a playoff Knicks game in New York work with Jerry and I got to be honest dude like I I I always like I'm a fan of the sport of all sports but I'm not a not a passionate fan especially in La we didn't really grow up having a football team but I have never had more anxiety watching a DieHard fan watch their team then we were in a bar we had couple couple drinks and he's just sitting there and it's like you couldn't even speak to is that how you are when the Bears are on Monday Night Football like the kids are like hey Daddy's watching the the Bears get the hell out of my room how is it like watching with you I mean I lock it in I like I usually for the first half for the first half I do not sit down I have like a rule that in the first half I can't sit down and for whatever reason I feel like I'm influencing the outcome of the game you guys are crazy dude by my by where you sit by where you sit by how I sit where I sit what hat I'm wearing I pick an outfit like I have I pick a specific out if we win game one I'll be wearing that outfit the whole season like there's no I won't change any it it is very I'm very religious about my football but I also I also um I like to like I I I could like I try like the older I get the more I relate with the coaches than I do with the players it's a weird thing like there was a switch that flipped that I was like well I can't do those things anymore it physically and so so now I'm watching the game like as a CO I'm like oh he's setting up you know and I'm watching like what defense is being played and whether or not it's like a setup for a blitz and then like seeing if I can predict what the play is g to be before the play is gonna happen that's become my new um way I watch football I'm kind of like Spider-Man meming with you right now cuz everything you just said is exactly the way I watch espe especially Giants and nicks like I even if I'm in one seat that's not where I've even asked my wife to leave the house before I'm like it's your energy your energy is not right right now you need to go for a walk but where are you standing right now you know I was going to ask you I felt like it's kind of not like an unfair question but like Bears quarterbacks right because obviously Caleb Williams right now is everyone's anticipating what he's going to do is Caleb already in the bear sort of Mount Rushmore without throwing a pass cuz the quter franchise history of quarterbacks for the Bears is a little rough do you have an order of bears QBs and what are you hoping for just to see out of Caleb in like a rookie year I mean I in 85 I was seven years old okay and I picked the Bears as my team like I was like Super Bowl Shuffle like it was so cool I'm like I'm I'm the B that's my team and everybody around me was like Packers fans and I'm like nah the Bears and and it's been the brutality since 1985 I mean we always have some version of uh like a stout defense some version but it's just been brutal like and I mean everything from Bubby Brer to the cab mcnown era to the this well like I mean just wa walking through quarterbacks and I think yo look part of it is the coach Carousel that is also taking place like you could be a a good quarterback but if you have a different Playbook that you've got to like put in it's like you anything in life you got you got to get it to the point where it's like second nature like when we're driving a car we don't sit there and go all right I I'm gonna put this hand over this hand and then turn the wheel we just turn the wheel because we're so used to turn in the wheel and there there are some quarterbacks that have had the blessing of having the same coach year in year out year in year out the same Playbook the same system the same when you know the Locker Room's the same and this thing all of the all the other things are exactly the same then you get to play the game but until you get to that point you're just trying to do the right thing and if you're so busy trying to do the right thing you're not playing and I and I feel like there's been a combination of like coach after coach after coach after coach quarterback after quarterback after quarterback after quarterback and maybe the guy with like you know the longest like Jay Cutler is a great quarterback like he's great at playing football but he also had a little bit of a carousel of coaches and this thing going and and that's hard and so the hope is that we've got eberflus and we're liking what we're seeing at eberl we've got Caleb and we're liking what we're seeing out of Caleb and that those two can stay connected maybe Shane Waldren who we just brought in from Seattle maybe we can get a unit that stays together and gives the guy a fighting chance but so that's my hope now now now I was I was a little bit I will say like I like Justin Fields a lot like I think he's too extraordinary football player and you know but as I watch and compare his accuracy to Caleb's accuracy I go I can't deny that Caleb's accuracy is I mean some of these like roll out passes that he's like lobbing 40-yard passes and dropping it right on romad dun like right over his shoulder in the preseason I would I'm impressed by his passing ability I'm impr he's got this cool demeanor that's confident but also humble and then and there was one part in hard knock this year where the coach ask you about that yeah and he goes and he's like or he said something to the effect of like I I'm confident that I did the work and I go that's real confidence like when you're confident that you're doing the work that's true confidence but it's a combination of that and humility and if he maintains that that's what leadership looks like and so that's a nice thing and so I look I have High Hopes but I have realistic expectations I I I always get asked about cayb obviously being at USC and everyone's like ah like what do you think and you know he's a little quirky he's a little different obviously the talent is undeniable and Ashton you just said it like the one thing that I always tell everybody is like I don't the the throwing off platform and all the stuff that Wows us that's great and that's there and that's a gift and he has that but like his work ethic because he told me at SC he's like I want to be the greatest quarterback to ever live and didn't stutter right Brady M like he did not stutter and it's not even like it's it's not even an arrogance where you don't like him it's just like dude this kid really believes like he's going to do that and that's why because of the work that's why I think he's going to be great it's not because he can throw the ball 80 yards and he's going to run around and make plays like he is he is a he's a gifted player man but he works um so is it is it playoff I mean are we thinking playoffs I mean winning the division what before I get into my predictions um because they are they are generous um how many offensive systems new offensive systems and OC's did you play Under as an NFL quarterback man so I played Denny green my rookie year which was the old digit system which is what he made famous kind of in Minnesota when he had Co pepper and and rainy Moss which I really liked and then he got fired and then wizen hunt came in and that was kind of the old Steelers rothberger ran that really didn't fit my style um and then Todd Haley was there for three years and then I went to Houston um so I I I wasn't one of those quarterbacks like I played in Arizona for years but then I went to Houston I played for kubak which was which is what we're seeing in Kyle Shanahan which to me is the greatest offense for a quarterback and that's why a lot of these quarterbacks you can almost plug and play um so I learned like I probably had three or four offenses in and then I went to Oakland and had a new offense so probably three or four offenses in seven years and I wasn't I wasn't talented enough look back to overcome that part like I needed structure I needed to be in a rhythm I needed to to have kind of that same thing year in and year out so I could build because I could my the stronger part of my game was the mental part I could understand and read and process the physical part was what I lacked obviously um I'm not Caleb Williams but and I wasn't running around but but my but that's that's just like but that's the round trip to I think the bigger point in all this which is if he has consistency around him in the system that he's in I think he's going to be extraordinarily successful and and so so that that's my that's my sense okay the prediction here we go so what we're here for I believe the Chicago Bears right now uh the spread is eight and a half games I believe they win 11 games this year wow yes I love it I believe they win 11 games this year and and and that's before the playoffs start well you know what here's why I a lot more than Jerry's Giants that's for sure that's for sure but what I do like we're all talking about Caleb and the Bears offense and those three receivers Matt and I on like a test show said that's probably the coolest and deepest three receiver core maybe in the NFL I mean three weapons that could do very different things very effective but what people don't talk about enough is I think the Bears defense is is going to be ridiculous I think the offense is going to be fun but I think that Bears defense is ready to go so I think that is in play Ashton all of our division games are late in the season they did an interesting thing with the schedule this year I don't know if you noticed like everybody's division games are later in the season and so those the teams are going to be priming up but division games in the north late in the season are cold and so it's like so the question goes who can play in the cold one and two who can run the football y cuz it's going to be a Smash Mouth the nor they're they're two Chicago and Green Bay are inhospitable in the winter inhospitable and so who can play in those conditions that's what's it's going to come down to I think you're making me a Believer yeah I think those I think you hit the nail on the head with I think those Bears Packers games very well if you pencil and Detroit say Detroit uh just on Chalk is all right they're the best team in the division say they get to 12 12 win I'm just saying hear me out with this though they're not the best team in the division Chicago Bears are the best team in the division I do think I'm tell but mark my words Chicago Bears are the best team in the division so you think do you think the Bears are gonna have more wins than the Lions this year you just said Bears are going to win 11 11 games I think the Bears wion 11 games and the Lions win less or more I I I I'll throw one more at you I think we sweep Detroit you are out of your mind listen I've lived my life I've lived my life out of my mind I know you and it's gotten new places yeah you could be a complete genius we could be playing this back three months from now saying wow we all should have followed Ashton Kutcher's picks because the Bears are seven and one going into Detroit all right I'm going to offer you a natural transition here okay ready there's one special weapon that the Chicago Bears have this year that nobody is accounting for can you guess what it is anything in the coaching staff Matt no I mean not special weapon wise or special teams you're must must special teams Tori Taylor you know what dude you are so right H good call good call guys guys I was on the sideline of the Iowa Hawkeye Iowa State game two years ago and the Scout for the Chicago Bears was there and he comes over and I was like oh you're here looking at lindab bomb right the center because the center we we had a six center and I was like I know you're looking at lindom pay attention to the punter this guy is a coffin kicking genius and the field position game is is the world right like I mean if you had a player that could guarantee you over the course of a game 40 yards guarantee you 40 yards you you'd be like no he's on the field we'll put him on the field Tory Taylor guarantees you 40 yards because he puts the ball so beautifully so deep he's GNA create plays for that great defense and he's going to give the offense field position to put points on the board and the difference in G football games in the NFL is a field goal and if you got 10 yards the difference between 50 yards and 40 yards one you're not kicking it and one you are and if it's three-point games Chicago Bears win 11 games we sweep Detroit we're going to the playoffs I'll see you there let me tell you this is the exactly what I wanted out of our first guest this by the way if they ex what they wanted if they go to playoffs you were going to be just awful to be around I feel bad for for the wife okay I want to transition really quick okay because um we all have kids you mentioned I think you coached your son's flag football team team which is awesome I coached my kid my oldest uh for years so one of the reasons that kind of this show brought me and Jerry together was just being a dad and and we're a boy dad I got three boys he's got two but I didn't know if you know this my wife is expecting and we're having we're yeah to we're throwing another one just just another one into for third so we're not gonna We're Not Gonna We're Not Gonna yeah Joe Jerry's next trust me uh We're not gonna find out but I am a boy dad through and through I know you have a boy and a girl so I want to ask you what is the difference and what's the best thing I kind of secretly healthy and happy baby is always is number one I would love to know what it feels like to be a girl dad I got to be honest what is what is the difference for you the first point I don't know if it's uh equates to it being a girl dead or it equates to her being my first but when I have my daughter cuz I we we had her first well my wife had my daughter let's be clear she did all you did you did not have you did not have I had fun she did work yeah um I I had never been so in love in my entire life like it was a sense of like it was a depth of being in love and mil and I have talked about it a lot it's like I like I've never loved anyone this much ever and and and that was like the first sense of like like and there's a there's a weird I I'll tell you I parent them differently my my son I'm always like yeah let's put go go for get you know yeah go like yesterday we're popping wheelies on a bicycle in the driveway right or it's like you know see if you can jump down four stairs now you jump three let's see if you can jump for my daughter I'm like I just want to protect her it's a sense of like just to like protect her from um and when my son cries I'm like all right you know good we're going you know what do we learn let's go let's move on and when my daughter cries it's like your my heart is out of my body and I can't put it back in um and it's and I don't know if that's um there's probably like a ton of ton of um just in some senses maybe like toxic masculinity that I had in my life that like treats my son different than my daughter in that way but I also noticed the same thing with my with my wife like she's very strict on our daughter and like a gush ball with our son right like lets him get and and I think we balance each other in that way where like my daughter and I we like talk about the pro you know like and my son it's like no go do the thing you know it's just like a slight tone difference um but I think the challenging thing with daughters versus sons is um they're there's some like they're just the relationship Dynamics with daughters are difficult like the Friendship stuff is a whole other level of importance for them um well especially for I guess for my daughter and so like if she's like out with her friends in some way like it was isn't in sync with her friends it's a real thing and my son's kind of like me okay let's you know let's go throw the football right get but but the relationship stuff is challenging yeah I I just uh I want to feel it my all my best friends have girls I'm just like I I got the boys I got I got my my four and a half-year-old is like every day just like Daddy punch me in the face today I want to see what it feels like like no no he's dead serious I'm like I'm like dude we can't do that like I always say he's going to be a middle linebacker he just doesn't feel pain but but it is you're right it's just a different I think a different way of parenting I'm assuming so um you I I I I would bet that you'll be softer with your daughter than you are your sons for sure but you don't know what you're having so you know well we'll see it's gonna we'll see we'll see what pops out here in February I got I got I I just you know betting odds I got you at a girl but again healthy baby is all we want but I got you at a girl I think it's my so Ashton I'm married to a Cuban lawyer okay so already yeah so already I'm I'm screwed but uh she's the best but she says I desperately want you to for the reasons you just kind of said I want you to have a girl because I want you to feel that type of love for for a daughter she's like I don't want you to have a girl because I know that I will be awful I was like what do you mean she's like I will be like protective and just like she's already my my wife is an extremist in a lot of great ways she's she's she it comes from her culture and her family and all that stuff but she's like I feel bad for you if we have a daughter and I was like oh dude please no I will say there's another thing that happens is like you have a different level of it is a different level of like introspective feminism that you build where you will you will instantly see the inequities between men and women in a more visceral way and you'll also um do stock on every relationship you've ever had with a woman in your life and whether or not you treated them the way that you would want your daughter to be treated and whether it's like the way you broke up with someone or whether it's like you know what like like AC you're like man I would just want my daughter to be treated better um and you'll you'll do stock of it and I and I think women make the world a better place because of that because of daughters now I know you mentioned too that you uh you coach like your son's flag football team I'm not quite there I'm trying to get my kids off the monster trucks I mean they're very much into the monster trucks slowly trying to introduce sports but I remember reading about you years ago and I thought was the coolest thing and I remember saying like I want to do that I know you coached High School football is that correct was a high school but is this before you had kids or was this while like where did that fall in line because I wonder were you like prepping to coach your kids one day or is this something that like hey I got the summer off I got time I want to go coach draw at the time I had three stepdaughters um and I had a little break from working where I was just like I just need to like chill out and take a break um and I was feeling this sense this like slump of like I don't know I just wasn't happy um for whatever reason and uh and I had a buddy who was like Hey I'm coaching the frost team for Harvard Westlake uh I'm the offensive coordinator and he would like come over and watch football with me he's like would you ever want to like coach would you ever want to be a defensive coordinator and I was like oh my God I would die like I would love and he's like why don't you come out and be the defensive coordinator for the frost team I was like count me in like I'm there I'll see he's like are you serious I was like I'll see youti I'll be there and and I just started doing it and it was and I got this like Edge back of like Joy um being in the game be teaching something I really felt like I knew um and and more so like having these guys look at you when you're a coach and and um I still talk to a bunch of the players today I have a picture of my team over here um like it's just having a sense of like this relation it's a different thing like a locker room is a different thing um and I and it was a wonderful experience I did it for a couple years and then I realized that I couldn't give them what they ultimately needed because I needed to go back to work and my schedule didn't work out and I didn't want to be like an absentee coach um and so I stopped and then uh my son was like Dad I really want to play fight football and I was like okay and I was like and a crazy work schedule and a bunch of things going on I was like I don't know if I'm gonna coach Emilia looked at me she's like you're going to regret for the rest of your life you don't coach you're coaching you're coaching and so I was like okay I'll be the assistant coach and so I signed up as the assistant coach and then halfway through the season the head coach had a son in San Diego and he need to travel back forth and I had to take over as the head coach and it w and it's juice I mean great when it's your kid and you're like get and in peeee the coach can be on the field and so lining up behind my son at middle linebacker and reading I I had game fil I took game film on the other teams and then I S and I drew up all the plays and I was able to like it I it is so bonkers the extent that I went uh and and had more fun coaching flag football than I could have possibly imagined and I'm very EXC our season starts we got our combine next Wednesday I'm ready to go the kids have to try out and then and then we draft our teams I'm I'm ready I I co it honestly coaching flag football my oldest son is 17 now so he's he's uh he's playing tackle but um I coached from probably 7 to 14 and and I as they got older we had a Super Bowl and our league the league down here where I live they actually film every game so you can go on YouTube or something and you can watch watch the game which is great some leagues don't do that um dude when we and we were like a dynasty we won almost every year but I would I would lose sleep dude I don't know if you were like that like you're so involved and my wife is like what are you doing I said babe like I am like we're in the Super Bowl and I'm watching I'm sitting literally on my iPad watching YouTube i i d I swear to God she would you're like watching for like seven-year-old tenden dude I'm literally getting no I'm getting I by the way I had my coach who was like Conor Conor scallions for Michigan he was deciphering signals and stuff and we had a whole sheet like we would call it up a color and it would we would knew the place it was so and I'm like dude what if I'm coaching I'm coaching I'm all in I was looking at Personnel packages I literally Drew up on the other team this is for my son seven I drew up the opposing team's Personnel packages in order to understand where the play was going and send a blitz directly into the play it's nuts like up all night same thing like up at midnight I would wake up in the middle of the night I like oh my God I got it I got it like I know exactly what the package like I know exactly and there's weird rules in flag football you can't run in between the hashes and so you're like trying to like design things for like it's it's so much fun and if you if you had to do like a press conference after a game could you see yourself having that Denny green moment like we knew who they were and we let him off the like what kind of if you lost the Super Bowl oh yeah yeah like who's your coach comp it could be from history or present do you have like a coach comp more personality or it could be style I mean if I we lost a couple games last season and it was I just had a bad day like I had a real I had a real bad day like it was I I couldn't get out of the funk like I there it was because I couldn't stop rerunning like well if we've done like what do I need to do next week in order to teach the kids contained like what do I need to do like it was like No And I would just like run loops on it and it press conference right afterwards I think I I bellich Che it we're on to Cincinnati we're on to Cincinnati just not a lot of energy I have enough media training that I can hide emotion real well if I need to um and I just I would just repeat you know I would have the attitude of like will you watch the play you saw what happened we all saw what happened oh dude question is are we going to fix it next week that's the only question I would use the press conference to talk to the players guys got to do their jobs they got to do their jobs I I feel your pain so much dude it is the worst um I get asked this a lot and I'm assuming I know the answer uh before we we let you go dude um would your would you let your son play tackle um i m and I debate about this all the time um the answer is yes if he loved playing football if if he gets to the point where it's time to consider tackle football and he loves playing football yes the answer would be yes um for me for Milo the answer might be no um and and we've debated it and it's funny like there was an article that came out this weekend I think it was like the New York Times or something about like 11 kids have died already this year uh in Middle School and High School playing football two from traumatic brain injuries and and then the others are like related and so I was like that's a lot of kids and so I start digging into the numbers and I'm like okay well wait a second how many of these were from football and then how many kids die in it was horrible and it's awful for any parent that had to go through that like I can't even imagine but then but but I was just looking at as like a data problem and I was like I feel like they're projecting that these are football related debts when when really they might be something and so I started looking in and there's like this youth Cardiac Arrest thing that's like on the rise and you have kids like in basketball and other soccer and all these other sports that are having these cardiac arrests and so you can't really attribute it necessarily to football you just attribute it to Athletics and I think that often times there a lot of like they skew the number in football because it is a violent sport I'm not I don't deny that in any way shape or form but they attribute a lot of these deaths and injuries to football when really they might be just athletic related injuries and so I started going through the numbers and and it appears to me that every year there are and consistently every year over multi multiple decades there have been on average four deaths a year for from some type of traumatic head injury that you could directly correlate to a football related death and the heat stroke and other things I mean you could get heat stroke when you're playing soccer you get heat stroke when you're playing any outdoor sport when it's 115 degrees in the valley right now like that's just irresponsible humans that's irresponsible coaching and I think a lot of the head related injuries and um are you're responsible coaching as well um where you don't teach the kids how to do things the right way um so the answer is uh uh we'll cross that bridge when we get there My Hope frankly is that um flag football in the Olympics goes off and like sets things off in a way that like I I love coaching flag football I can't I'm shocked at how much I love coaching flag football it's the best maybe he'll just want to play flag football um but if he wants to play tackle best believe dude you'll be dra up plays listen real quick if you if you need an OC dude I got I still got my playbook a lot of championships down here in the South Bay if you need an OC in the off season though just saying I would love to watch reunited buddy reunited let's go feel so good we' be the most handsome coaching duo in all of coaching and our wives would hate us just the same because we would watch so much film so much film so good I love it oh man you're the best dude can't thank you enough for doing this first ever guest uh I feel like if I run into you in the street six months I'm just going to call you coach I don't even think I'm going to call like oh there's coach right there what's up you really coach Vibes when uh is flag football starts yeah does he you guys start up soon the realon next NE next Wednesday is uh tryouts and then we draft our teams and then we've got um and then we'll do two a days or two of weeks uh for a couple weeks and then we start kicking off games easy work Bears Titans right easy work for them easy no no no there's no no no I don't there are no easy work games love it that's what a coach says that's what a coach says I don't I nothing is a given right like absolutely nothing is a given I do I think that we have what we need to win the answer is yes will we win we'll see but but I'm counting that as I'm counting that as one of the 11 yeah I was gonna say I I'll say this I was the first guest on one other podcast and it's called armchair expert small yeah small little show so well I was the first guest that wasn't dax's wife um so may you have the same success as armchair expert and uh and keep cranking throwback baby thank you man thank you man really appreciate it and I really do look forward to watching your badges they're going to be one of the fun teams to watch so good luck NFC nort is going to be amazing and uh thank you buddy appreciate it last note Iowa offense put up over 40 points last week finally right hey Kate Kate M baby let's go they got a [Music] QB you've had Wendy's nugs dipped in sauce but have you had them covered in sauce Wendy's new Saucy nugs take the 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talk Nick's wait to see unhinge that become when I talk about the Knicks on the show so for my guy Duce McBride okay it's the off seon he's supposed to be chilling working out getting ready for the season he goes on college game day or whatever it is with Pat M he hits essentially in a crowd of thousands a halfcourt shot live on the air and wins two people I guess partial scholarship or a yearly tuition whatever repid awesome moment you we all see the halftime shows where guys try to hit halfcourt shots I think the odds are so low this dude live in a very weird environment to take a half court shot knocked it down the second round pick from West Virginia Duke McBride who earned his way into a nice contract with the Knicks and is now a very important player that is the player I cannot get how to get that to get I feel like I'm gonna have to buy a Knicks jersey at some point oh talk you into I got my Kobe I got my Kobe jersey behind me but uh okay I'm gonna this was really cool I don't know if you saw this Danny St the Oklahoma linebacker last week donated a portion of his nil money to all of the Walk-Ons on their team and what two quick reasons why I love that one nil sometimes has been looked at as a negative and this and that and how it can change these kids making money and there's some of that but I think we fail to see a lot of the good that can happen from it and that's a perfect example of a dude who's who's getting paid a decent amount of money he's a good football player but he used it because walk on as I could say this like you know it's a it's a thankless job you work really really hard you're you're not on scholarship some some Walk-Ons I played with were had a job or outside of this and so to take care of them with a pretty decent amount of money I thought was really cool man like just kudos to him he's a hell of a player but that stuff goes a long way and those guys you know those guys need to be recognized too because they work just as hard and put in the same amount of time yeah there there's a certain just uh maturity and Leadership with a decision like that at such a young age again I could say that now as a 45y old man like oh that's a great thing to do I but when I was 20 would I have 21 however all would I have had the uh wherewithal to do something like that well again thank you to Wendy's that is the Can't Get Enough sauce moment of the week brought to you by Wendy's and I tell you what the Saucy nugs are going to be a part of my Sunday routine because I don't believe in cooking on Sundays I don't believe in cooking on Sundays yeah I'll do some meal prep like I traded but as as far as what I'm eating on Sunday it's it's coming from outside the house I've had the Saucy nugs a lot of lot of lot of sauces too a lot of flavors they're they're they're fire cannot wait it's going to be a big part of my NFL watching and look we talked a lot of NFL we talked a lot of uh superlatives we talked a lot with Ashton but we have to talk we got Matt leard here folks we have to talk a little college football we mentioned Duce McBride in West Virginia you were in West Virginia last week with big noon kickoff and I know you're going somewhere amazing this week but what was last weekend like for you dude it was electric it was it so there was so much hype going in the game the game didn't end up being that great but for us as the show it's all about the fan it's it's week one so everybody's excited and and let's be honest there's not a lot to do in Morgantown other than West Virginia and whether it's basketball that that University and so the fans were great um Machine Gun Kelly performed he performed which which a lot of people were kind of like um the dude the dude rocked it uh he couldn't have been more of a professional he was great I became a I I literally I became a big MGK fan after this weekend I talked to him a little bit he was great with the crowd the fans he performed well he has a take of lonely road which is the famous John Denver song that's used in West Virginia he uh collabed with jelly roll it's actually a great song um but he was great and he hyped the crowd so the crowd was great the energy was great and then all of a sudden like it does in that type and you live in it just you know you never know when the weather's going to hit dude chaos twist God wello it was it was and we kind of knew they're like all right hey it could be lightning thunder and obviously when lightning happens there's like a four it has like when lightning strikes there has to be 40 minute delay or 30 minute delay before you can go back on the field like it basically can't hit again and then every time it strikes like every 20 minutes you keep starts to clock over yeah it just starts to clock over again so we dealt with that um fortunately like we get we leave like so we can do halftime and then that game goes into another game and so we left so we went we drove the hour and a half to Pittsburgh got home but uh it was a great way to kick off the season for big noon the fans were great and D this week yeah tell us about this week this is arguably the could be the best game of the year for all we know Texas Michigan Texas at Michigan it's uh yeah I mean I mean look you got the defending national champs you got Texas who was almost in the title game a year ago um kind of different story lines around both teams but similar expectations we got a star studded lineup you know you're GNA have to tune in and watch big noon we got another can't give us anything you can't break news on the show right well let's just say let's just say we have one of the greatest Yankees of all time and we have a actor who maybe I don't know if you've ever worked with but he's a DieHard Texas which we all know that is but um and we have another musical guest which I'll save but it's it's I'll tell you what we we we have a party the fans are great so we'll see everyone there Saturday morning in Ann Arbor who needs it more real quick if you had a guess Texas Michigan who do you think needs this one more going through the rest of the year Texas and the reason why I say that is Michigan Michigan lost so much last year like so much and I just think the expectation will lower a little bit this year uh I don't know if you watch the first game like I I they're going to they're a really good football team but Texas they tasted it last year they're going to the SEC sarcus like like hey are they back we always ask the same question on the show is Texas back well like this is a game where I don't care if Michigan ends up winning only eight games this is a game where you go on the road against the defending national champ and you make a statement and that's why I just think there's more for Texas on this and then you have the big 10 SEC talk so uh it's big though big for both could I uh if I wanted to show up are we close enough yet that I could get some VIP treatment if I just say hey I want to go to I want to come check out the game maybe come by set are we close enough yet or am I have we not crossed into that land where I could ask you for a giant solid like that dude you anytime you want to come buddy we'll we'll get you a seat up there you want to get on the show I'll get you on the show that's a good I mean if ever a tie that game under those circumstances that's a good one to go I'm going to have to maybe trade off something else with the wife to get go to that one say uh let's go to an arbor then hey honey by the way I'm going to spend 6 hours uh by myself on the next day I don't know if she'll let you do that buddy no that might be a big that might be a big problem uhy let's ease it let's ease into the season Jerry you got a long we got a long ways to go buddy I know that's what happens I get excited I get so far ahead of myself and make all these plans and I'm like really I just want to be able to watch and talk about it and that's what we're doing here on Throwbacks week one in the books for us I'm going to say we're 1 and0 I'm going to say ker got us to one and0 we're 1 and0 uh go follow us at throwback show our personal handles um we can't wait man it's gonna be fun dude it's gonna be a fun season yes at throwback show on YouTube X Instagram Tik Tok you could also email us if you want to tell us what we did right at throwback show atgmailcom of course if you like what you're heard please like And subscribe on Apple podcast Spotify YouTube wherever you like to get it and we will be back week two we're 1 and0 we have to follow that up and there will be a guest I'm going to try to make it NFL and it's going to come from me thank you Andrew gundling every helped us do this week one here we go everyone enjoy happy football happy football see you in a week