The man who played Trump for Harris debate prep reacts to ‘remarkable’ night

THAT IS DEEPLY TROUBLING AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE BETTER. >> KAMALA HARRIS ACCOMPLISHED EVERYTHING SHE NEEDED TO LAST NIGHT. SHE NEEDED TO ACCOMPLISH A LOT. KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK. THE VICE PRESIDENT IS KNOWN FOR BEING A POLITICIAN WHO REALLY PREPARES AND IT WAS CLEAR SHE TOOK HER DEBATE PREP SERIOUSLY. A FORMER DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE AND SPOKESMAN FOR HILLARY CLINTON AND PLAYED THE ROLE OF DONALD TRUMP IN CLINTON'S DEBATE PREP IN 2016. THERE HE IS AND WHAT APPEARS TO BE A FLIP PHONE VIDEO IN COSTUME, ROLE-PLAYING A SCENARIO WHERE TRUMP TRIED TO HUG CLINTON AND CHASED HER AROUND THE ROOM. HE REPRISED THE ROLE OF TRUMP AND KAMALA HARRIS'S PREPARATIONS. HE JOINS ME NOW. IT IS GOOD TO HAVE YOU. FIRST WHAT DID YOU THINK OF THAT DEBATE? >> I COULD WATCH IT ALL NIGHT. I MEAN, SHE PUT ON A CLINIC. THERE IS NO PART OF IT YOU CAN WATCH THAT SAYS THAT IS BAD. IT WAS A REMARKABLE PERFORMANCE. I KNOW THE FORMER PRESIDENT IS SAYING THE SAME THING, BUT AS USUAL ONE OF THEM IS LYING AND ONE OF THEM IS NOT. >> TAKE ME THROUGH THE PREP. FIRST OF ALL WHAT WAS YOUR APPROACHED -- APPROACH TO PLAYING TRUMPET AND WHAT WERE THE SIGNATURE THINGS YOU ARE DOING AND HOW WAS THAT GAMED OUT AND PREPARED FOR? >> FIRST, MY ROLE IN IT IS THE KIND OF SEXY PART OF IT, BUT I REALLY JUST HAD TO FOCUS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, WHICH IS HIM. THERE IS A TEAM THAT HELPS THE VICE PRESIDENT THAT WAS HEADED UP BY KAREN DUNN AND IT WAS AMAZING AND IT WAS A FRICTIONLESS TEAM THAT I HAVE WORKED WITH OTHER TEAMS AND IT WAS GREAT. THE VICE PRESIDENT HAS GREAT PEOPLE AROUND HER. NOT JUST THE TWO OF THEM, BUT THEY RAN IT. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE YOU JUST WANT THE CANDIDATE TO GET USED TO WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO SEE AND HEAR AND EXPERIENCE AND IT WAS AN ADDED ODDITY THAT THEY NEVER MET AND WHAT IS GREAT AS I HAD NEVER MET HER. THE FIRST DAY I MET HER I SAID MADAM VICE PRESIDENT IT IS NICE TO MEET YOU AND 20 MINUTES LATER I WAS TELLING HER HOW SHE WAS RUINING AMERICA. >> WHAT WAS YOUR APPROACH? ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS TO PREPARE FOR IF YOU ARE DEBATING TRUMP. LIKE THE GO TO MOVES, THE THINGS THAT MIGHT RATTLE SOMEONE WHO HASN'T BEEN IN THE SAME ROOM? >> WILL I WOULD TAKE A STEP BACK. A DEBATE IN ITS IDEAL FORM IS A JOB INTERVIEW. YOU HAVE TWO PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING FOR THE SAME POSITION YOU WANT TO PUT THEIR EXPERIENCE AND THEIR BEST FOOT FORWARD. THEY WANT TO BE PROFESSIONAL. THEY WANT TO THINK ABOUT CURVEBALLS THAT MAY COME THEIR WAY AND WE HAVE ALL BEEN IN THAT SITUATION. THE SITUATION WE HAVEN'T BEEN IN IS WHEN THE OTHER CANDIDATE FOR THE JOB IS SIX FEET TO YOUR LEFT AND THEY HAVE A CHAINSAW AND THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN WIN IS BY BLOOD BEING -- BLOOD BEING YOU UP. WHAT SHE DID LAST NIGHT THAT WAS SO AMAZING WAS SHE WAS NOT JUST POINTING OUT THINGS THAT MIGHT GET UNDER HIS SKIN. SHE WAS MAKING HER CASE DIRECTLY TO THE CAMERA TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT HER PLANS AND WHAT WAS ALSO INCREDIBLY AMAZING WHAT SHE DID SOMETHING THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS REALLY BEEN ABLE TO DO IN THE LAST YEAR, WHICH IS REMIND PEOPLE THAT THIS GUY ACTUALLY SERVED AND HAS A RECORD AND THAT RECORD IS REALLY BAD. AND YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS. THIS AMNESIA ISSUE IS A PROBLEM. WHERE HE STARTS OUT SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOU COMPLETELY SCREWED THE BORDER. IT HAS TO BE HOLD ON, BOWEL, YOU WERE THERE FOR FOUR YEARS. YOU WERE IN CHARGE OF THE BORDER AND PROMISED US A WALL AND IT IS NOT THEY ARE. THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED ENOUGH AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO LAY OUT THAT CASE. THIRD, FOR MY OWN IN TERMS OF ASKING ABOUT PREP, FIRST OF ALL WE ALL GET MAKEUP BEFORE WE ARE ON TV AND THE MAKEUP ARTIST SAID YOU ALREADY HAD MAKEUP ON AND I SAID NO. SHE SAID YOU'VE GOT IT ON YOUR FOUR HEAD. I CAN'T GET IT OFF. IT IS SO CAKED ON. THE GUY USES LIKE PLASTER OF PARIS. BUT THE THING I NOTICED OVER EIGHT YEARS AND BY THE WAY I FEEL LIKE 50 YEARS WHEN YOU SAY A FLIP PHONE. IT WAS NOT BLACK AND WHITE, CHRIS. IT IS THAT HE IS REALLY DECOMPENSATING. HIS LANGUAGE HAS ALWAYS BEEN CHOPPY AND HE HAS ALWAYS DIGRESSED. THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON. I THINK WE WATCH AND IT IS LIKE HE ALWAYS SPEAKS LIKE THAT. HE DOES NOT. IF I LOSE TRACK OF MY THOUGHTS I STOP FOR A SECOND. WHEN HE LOSES TRACK OF HIS THOUGHTS, HE GOES TO ANOTHER THOUGHT QUICKLY, SO IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE ANYTHING. IT SOUNDS LIKE JUMPING AROUND. THAT IS NOT WHAT HE IS DOING. ALSO HE WILL GO OFF ON COVID FOR 10 MINUTES AND NOT SAY TONY FAUCI. FOUR YEARS AGO HE WOULD GO ON FOR FIVE MINUTES ABOUT FAUCI. SO THERE IS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, I AM THE CAMP THAT HAS ALWAYS NOTICED THAT, BUT NARROWLY IN TERMS OF WATCHING EVERYTHING HE HAS SAID AND DONE OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND READING EVERY WORD. THERE IS SOMETHING NOT RIGHT. >> WE WILL PLAY A LITTLE SELECTION AND ONE OF THESE IS THE NOTORIOUS, THEY ARE EATING THE DOGS, THEY ARE EATING THE CATS, WHICH IS BOTH A DISGUSTING AND RACIST SLANDER TO A GROUP OF PEOPLE AND ALSO COMPLETELY INVENTED. BUT HE STARTED ON THE RALLIES. WE PLAY THAT CLIP AND HE GOT FROM PEOPLE GO TO MY RALLIES TO THAT AND HE CANNOT FOLLOW A TRAIN OF THOUGHT. HE INTERRUPTS HIMSELF. HERE IS A SMATTERING OF WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE. >> SHE IS A MARXIST. EVERYONE KNOWS SHE IS A MARXIST. HER FATHER IS A MARXIST PROFESSOR IN ECONOMICS AND HE TAUGHT HER WELL. IN SPRINGFIELD THEY ARE EATING THE DOGS, THE PEOPLE THAT CAME IN, THEY ARE EATING THE CATS. THEY ARE EATING, THEY ARE EATING THE PETS OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE. SHE WAS BIG ON DEFUND THE POLICE. IN MINNESOTA SHE WENT OUT. WHEN A MINUTE, I AM TALKING NOW. IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEASE. DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR? >> HE WAS PROUD OF THAT LAST ONE. HE REFERRED TO IT AS CUTE AND GAVE A LITTLE KUDOS TO HIMSELF AFTERWARDS THAT HE WAS CALLING BACK TO THAT MOMENT. IN TERMS OF SET PIECES LIKE DEBATING, HOW MUCH OF THAT WAS PLANNED? IT SEEMED TO ME THAT THERE WERE CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU KNOW HE WON'T LEAVE ALONE. JOHN McCAIN. CHARLOTTESVILLE, VERY FINE PEOPLE. THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION. HIS RALLIES. THAT WERE INTENTIONALLY IN HER ANSWERS TO GET HIM TO NARCISSISTICALLY OBSESS OVER THEM. >> I THINK, LOOK, YOU KNOW, SHE HAS SEEN HIM OVER THE YEARS. THIS WAS HIS SEVENTH GENERAL ELECTION. HE DEBATED I THINK 11 TIMES IN THE PRIMARIES. NOTABLY ZERO TIMES IN 2020, THE 2024 PRIMARIES AND YET HE CALLS EVERYONE OUT FOR BEING SCARED. I THINK SHE WAS ALMOST ACTING LIKE SHE WAS WATCHING IT. YOU KNOW, KIND OF WATCHING IT ON TV AND SAYING OLD ON, DUDE, WHAT ABOUT THIS? THAT IS WHAT SHE WAS DOING, CALLING OUT FACTS. WHAT IS PARTICULARLY TELLING WHEN YOU SHOW THESE CLIPS OF HIS DIGRESSIONS OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM IS THAT THEY MAKE NO SENSE. HE IS NOT A RUBIK'S CUBE. HE IS NOT HARD TO FIGURE OUT. HE IS JENGA, YOU PUSH ONE THING AND HE FALLS APART. BUT IF YOU SAY YOUR CROWD SIZES ARE LOW AND PEOPLE LEAVE, WHY WOULDN'T YOU SAY THAT'S NOT TRUE, THAT IS MEAN. I'M PROUD, THEY ARE THE BIGGEST THINGS. WHAT HE ACTUALLY STARTS DOING IS A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF INSANITY. IT IS A SUBSET. WHAT HE IS SAYING HAS NEVER BEEN TRUTHFUL. IT HAS NEVER BEEN REAL. IT HAS NEVER BEEN NORMAL, BUT IT IS DECOMPENSATING AND I THINK THE THING ABOUT THE FROG, YOU KNOW, IN WATER. BOIL THEM SLOWLY, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING. WE ALL HAVE BEEN INTO IT, SO WE DON'T REALIZE HOW SERIOUS IT IS. LOOK, JOE BIDEN, I LOVE JOE BIDEN. WHEN JOE BIDEN WAS 78 AND RAN FOR PRESIDENT, NO ONE THOUGHT, I'M CONCERNED WITH HOW HE LOOKS. DONALD TRUMP IS 78. IF HE WINS WE COULD BE BACK IN THIS CONVERSATION IN TWO YEARS. HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT HE WAS GOING OFF THE RAILS? >> DID YOU DO OFF THE RAILS AS HIM? >> YOU DO EVERYTHING. YOU HAVE A GOOD TENNIS PLAYER WHO WANTS TO GET BETTER. I HAVE FRIENDS WHO OBSESS WITH TENNIS. THEY GET A TENNIS PRO. YOU WANT TO TEST YOUR BACKHAND, SET THE BALL MACHINE TO TEST YOUR BACKHAND. IF YOU WANT TO USE THE BALL MACHINE AS A TARGET FOR YOUR SERVE, GREAT. IT IS SIMULATION. ANY KIND OF PREP WHETHER IT IS CONGRESSIONAL PREP, DEPOSITION PREP OR ANY KIND OF INTERVIEW, YOU WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE THOUGHT THINGS THROUGH. IT'S NOT LIKE YOU ARE SITTING AROUND AND SAYING THIS IS A GOOD LINE, MEMORIZE IT. THERE BEEN GREAT STORIES THAT PEOPLE WOULD LOVE ABOUT THE BIGGEST MOMENTS IN DEBATE HISTORY. THE CANDIDATES THINKING ABOUT THEM WHEN THEY ARE NOT IN PREP. LLOYD BENTSEN, I KNEW JOHN KENNEDY. HE ACTUALLY SNAPPED AT HIS TEAM WHEN THEY SAID DAN QUAYLE MIGHT SAY THAT HE KNEW JACK KENNEDY. HE APPARENTLY SAID IF YOU'RE GOING TO WASTE MY TIME, -- HE WALKED OUT OF THE ROOM. GEORGE BUSH WHEN AL GORE CROWDED HIM, HE HAD THIS SMIRK ON HIS FACE AND HE SAID THAT THE SMIRK ON HIS FACE IS BECAUSE HIS TEAM HAD CROWDED HIM IN THE HOTEL ROOM AND SAID WHAT ARE YOU DOING? THEY SAID GORE HAS SOMETIMES DONE THAT. HE SAID I DON'T CARE WHO HAS DONE THAT, GET OUT OF MY