Taysom Hill On Defense? Dennis Allen Admits Saints Considered The Move

welcome to the AFR Saints Channel where we provide you daily content on your favorite team the New Orleans Saints do us a favor and hit that subscribe button be sure to leave your comments below and smash that like button who that K Adams was at Saints camp on Wednesday she sat down with Dennis Allen Derek Carr Cam Jordan Demario Davis some wide- ranging interviews and they were fun a couple of things that stood out though um while K Adams was talking to Dennis Allen they they brought up Tamm Hill and Tamm Hill is always going to be an interesting conversation eight years in the NFL he has been a um a one of one quite honestly I mean there have been players that have done multiple things but none quite like what tesm does seldom do you see someone that lines up as a as a tailback as an HB as a tight end as a wide receiver as a quarterback as a gunner the personal protector on punt team I mean he's done it all uh which makes him truly a a oneofone type player and K Adams was asking about Tamm Hill in particular him lining up at full back in kubak offense which is something we've talked a lot about because of how the the perception is they use Kyle yusek in San Francisco I'm really excited to see what he's doing with taes Hill why fullback he's doing everything with him you know because taes Hill can do everything no but fullback I was not on my bingo card coach what what is he looking like full that's what creativity does you know you bring in some some new thoughts some new ideas they see the player in a different way I think sometimes when you do the same thing over and over sometimes you can just get caught in that rut of this is what this guy does and he's more than just a quote unquote Wildcat quarterback that much we've seen as we alluded to he he runs the ball out of the back field he catches passes he blocks he blocks punts he does all that sort of stuff um but the the conversation took a very interesting turn because K Adams then as the very pointed question of Dennis Allen who is a defensive-minded coach why won't you put him on defense I thought about that tell me about that um early on we we kind of thought about you know making him a Sam linebacker oh my God no I'm not kidding no way we talked about that um who we well we on defense all right but the head coach at the time was like he wasn't giv up anything so got it but you but you're the head coach what are you talking about yeah but now we got him doing so many things now fullback Runner there's only so many ball plays a guy can play um one more I I have an interesting followup about t him on defense in some perspective that I'm getting to but one more real quick where would you put him on defense I'd play him at Sam linebacker wow and I'd Rush him about 50% of the time he would kill people I feel like 62221 it plays like tames could be a Good Sam linebacker and you know there's so I started looking today for some perspective and some context have we actually seen two-way guys in the NFL and would would pretty consistently comes back are guys that played both a a position either offense or defense and then special teams like Devin Hester who went into the Hall of Fame as a kick returner a return specialist but also played receiver Patrick Peterson has been a returned specialist in his career and played cornerback Charles Woodson was another example such uh as such but as I dug into this there are examples of guys who played both sides of the ball in the NFL now look from time to time you see like The Refrigerator Perry right the the the 300lb lineman who gets the fat guy touchdown that's not what I'm talking about because there are examples out like dant po did that there's examples of that uh didn't Jason Kelce score a touchdown like didn't he catch a pass I'm pretty sure I saw that one um but I noticed a as a I started researching this earlier today one of the most um evident was Mike Vel so Mike Vel played in 206 career games as a linebacker and while Mike Vel was a great linebacker for the New England Patriots he also scored 11 NFL touchdowns and I'd kind of forgotten about this because Mike Vel was a guy that the the Patriots used not just like as a like a fat guy touchdown but he was actually a very athletic guy who was talented and and good enough to play in in the red zone and be a very competent weapon for them not just not just a guy who was on the field in in trick play packages type things Mike Vel was one um another one of note was Julian Edelman so Julian Edelman we remember of course was a um you know played some quarterback and running back in college became a receiver with with the New England Patriots but also played 91 career defensive snaps that's not a ton of defensive snaps but that's enough to be notable right and think we're not saying like when we talk about this in context of tames Hill we're not talking talking about Tamm Hill being like playing every snap on offense and every snap on defense but you heard Dennis Allen say it like I'd put him at Sam linebacker and I'd Rush him every play what if you got into a pass rush situation could you put Tamm Hill on the field like pretty clearly yeah I mean like I could bring up examples of like Cordell Stewart who played it was Slash he ran the ball and and threw the ball and and caught the ball and like with the Steelers back in the day but that's not what we're talking about we're not talking about moving around on the offense like like tesm does cuz we see that U Troy Brown was another one troy Brown had 557 career receptions in as an NFL receiver he also made 39 tackles had five pass breakups and three interceptions so he was a two-way guy that played defensive back for New England as well speaking of New England there were times in his career where Randy Moss did that where they would put Randy Moss deep in the second on the endend of half plays or around the Red Zone if you needed to have a big long long arm safety on a long pth a guy who had great ball skills Randy Moss did that so we have seen very prominent players in the NFL who are offensive skill guys have defensive situations where they played or defensive players who like Mike Vel who had offensive packages built for them so I actually I I don't know if the conversation with K Adams and Dennis Allen was just meant to be in just or whatever and she kind of stumbled down that road with him as they talked about it maybe he lobbied Shawn pyton about using Tamm Hill on defense but very clearly there's precedent to say look you don't have to put him on defense for 20 snaps a game but what about situationally as a pass rusher three times a game if he gets you off the field on a third down okay I mean think about Zack Bon the Saints used a a third round pick on Zack Bond who was a great pass rusher at at Wisconsin it never materialized here but he was a guy who was nothing more than a situational pass rusher what if you have that in Tamm Hill I mean I'm not sitting a pounding the table saying you you got to do it but why wouldn't you do it if a really good defensive coach like Dennis Allen and Dennis Allen is a really good defensive coach thinks he could do I mean can you play that again number um which which one was that again uh number can you play number three play like just listen listen to the enthusiasm in Dennis Allen's voice when he talks about playing Tamm Hill on defense why won't you put him on defense I thought about that tell me about that um early on we we kind of thought about you know making him a Sam linebacker oh my God no I'm I'm not kidding way we talked about that um who's we well we on defense all right but the head coach at the time was like he wasn't giving up anything so got it but you but you're the head coach what are you talking about yeah but now we got him doing so many things now fullback Runner there's only so many ball plays a guy can play oh that's not the one I'm sorry it was it was the it was the shorter one where because I have put him at Sam i' have rushed him every go go ahead go ahead go where would you put him on defense I'd play him with Sam linebacker wow and I'd Rush him about 50% of the time he would kill people he know he's he's got the plan I want to see it I hope I hope if nothing else from that interview with K Adams coming to the Saints facility that that it manifest that we get to see TM do he's already covered kicks he's covered kicks and punts he can tackle why not put him out there let's see it Pathway to the Hall of Fame if Devon Hester can get in the Hall of Fame doing one thing returning kicks why can't Tamm Hill get in the Hall of Fame for being a dude who said that earlier this year was it carrr who said he should be in the hall of fame or was Drew Brees it was Carr car Bree it was car said and it's not wrong like Devin Hester has if nothing else set a precedent for your non-traditional Hall of Fame elect why you got to T there all these things why not put him out 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