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conquered he lost interest there's a really sad statement he once made he was asked once why he avoided real relationships and had so many of these super official ones and he said I don't really know I just can't help it and he looked the person who said it said like he was going to cry so it was an addiction so you don't want to be married to a guy like that but I'm a citizen of the country I'm an historian and I care much more what he did for the country and that record is far more interesting and a mixture of far more good than bad than hirh allows in his Zeal to expose the sexual side of Camelot and John Kennedy of course he sounds also uh the former president that Zoe was addicted to certainly amphetamines and that may be true too I mean this is not a these conversations are never about me and I and I'm not not presumptuous enough to think they are but I mean I am a recovering drug addict and I do understand about all that and you can get I mean I used to get those shots I mean they they can be fairly addictive and they can change the way you think about yourself and everything else oh I think there's no question about that in fact my husband says that you know when they'd be exhausted from the campaigns from long hours in the White House they could go to that White House doctor and what they thought they were getting was vitamin shots but they did get the White House staff would get these amphetamines too but to be fair I don't think people understood then some of the bad aspects of the amphetamines they just thought it kept them up kept them up and kept them going and energetic you well they used to describe them as B12 shots right that's what they thought we're getting these good vitamin shot uh do you think not to dwell on Mr hsh here but Gary Wills in uh surprisingly sloppy review written in a New York Review of Books that's almost prompting me to cancel my subscription to the New York Review of Books but that's a matter between me and them I guess but anyway he uh he said essentially that in uh to paraphrase Mr Wills but that in this mad effort to discredit Jack Kennedy that sear HS who after all did win a polisher prize for did expose a m Li Massacre I mean he's not you know it's not like he's some clown writing for People magazine but I mean Mr will suggesting that he's pretty much uh disassembled and in his words obliterated his own career and reputation do you think that's true or well I'll tell you I mean I know s h too he worked with my husband in the McCarthy campaign I like him I've seen him over the years he came to our house to interview dick for this book but I do think that something happened to him in the writing of this book because he got so excited about exposing the dark side it's as if no other side existed of these people I mean look at poor old honey Fitz John Kennedy's grandfather he starts off his chapter saying that the image that came down to us from other historians was one of a popular energetic mayor but the reality was that his mayorship was marked by cronyism and Corruption and payoffs and that's what John Kennedy learned and acquired his understanding of corruption well the truth is that honey Fitz did grow up in the old boss system of politics he did Round Up votes from the cemetery and he did have men who warded the streets followed by bicycles who were watching to see if they warded the Street followed by more people on jobs walking to follow the bicyclers so it was payroll padding without question but at the same time he was also considered a pretty good mayor he gave the poor citizens a system of public parks he set up a whole Vocational School System he provided clean streets with all those characters and he gave the Irish a sense of Pride after years of the Yankee dominance and if it hadn't been for his own woman troubles his woman by the name of toodles he would have won a third or fourth term so it's not only corruption that Jack learned from him which is the only thing HS says he learned from him but how to take care of your supporters how to pay attention to detail how to be a hard campaigner so I think he just presents like a prosecutor he's presenting one side much of which is sometimes true but it gives you a totally distorted picture as if that's all the person is the same with Joe Kennedy he was a very mixed character as a businessman he made a fortune he left no institution of note behind him I don't respect what he did in business as a public figure he was a deadly ambassador to the court of St James but HS never mentions that as the chairman of the SEC he was fabulous most historians say he did a great job as head of the maritime he was terrific he never mentions that as a father he says that he was a pain in the ass but the fact is those kids loved him they knew he believed in them Jack once said if I walked on a stage and I fell flat on my face my father would say I feel better than anyone else so there's no doubt that there was a bond and that other whole side is missing from hs's book and that's what pisses me off we're talking with an angry steamed K Goodwin the historian who's a current for wait till next year published by Simon auster a memoir about growing up a Brooklyn Dodger fan is on the New York Times best subtle list where it has been for uh a couple of months and she's I guess you're out on a book tour now right oh yeah I'm in the last phase of the book tour which really hasn't been so bad I mean the great thing is embarrassing to admit that but because of growing up in the 50s everybody I come in contact with remembers the a bomb drills or the early days of television or the polio scares or playing in the streets and they'll say It's my life you're describing and then I look at these people who are sometimes 400 pounds much richer than I was grew up in a different part of the country and I can't say it's my life you're talking about but it's great I feel a connection with these people back to the Kennedy thing for a second I I hear what you say about the the womanizing and I uh just speaking for myself found that to be the Le interesting the least interesting aspect of any of these re ations even Mr boff's book The Crisis years where he talked about this uh this German woman Ellen ramish whatever her name was and that Affair and how that was about to blow up in the president's face but but what I did find I don't know kind of disquieting was apparent not just Mr hsh's allegation but others of this Obsession that the Kennedy Brothers had with um uh assassinating Fidel Castro the role they perhaps played in the ass ation of DM in South Vietnam and and also the how their accomplishments even the Cuban Missile Crisis and I you know I understand I was talking to Jeff Greenfield earlier this morning how we got into all of that but the the disparaging for example of ADI Stevenson and his suggestion in the Cuban Missile Crisis that the resolution would be to trade the missiles in Turkey for the ones in Cuba and how he was ridiculed for that and that essentially is what happened and I but I found some of that kind of dis do you or does it matter yeah I don't think it's a good thing for governments to get in the business of trying to assassinate other leaders there's no question about that and you know if it's so that they were as obsessed as HH claims with assassinating Castro I would find that disquieting I mean it's also true however that at the end of Kennedy's Administration before he died negotiations had begun to have a reproach mon with Castro they had sent some guy up to the UN which Johnson later cancelled so once again there's another to all of this I mean I think in the end you know that what he really is concentrating on even though the book seems to get its legitimacy from the issues you just mentioned is the sex if you look at the number of chapters there's a whole chapter on Ellen there's a whole chapter on Judith exner you know and in the end I think most politicians the weird thing is if I had to make a bet I think most men we know in politics are more interested in the Applause of millions than they are of the love of one woman I mean I remember Lyndon Johnson so lonely in his ex that he would come to visit me at 5:00 a.m. in the morning to talk cuz he needed someone to talk to now however if a crowd had suddenly appeared outside the bedroom window he would have jumped out the window to see that crowd applauding him he would have cared about that much more than he did about me and I'll bet that's true about John Kennedy too so we seem to talk about sex when I don't think it's what drives them look how many politicians would probably get up at 5:00 a.m. to come and talk on your show so they could expose themselves to the public rather than be with their wife in bed we're doing a series uh in connection with PBS called the great minds of politics in which uh they've asked me to talk to four or five people well actually I I helped select the people uh who I thought were and along with these these Eggheads pretentious Yale Harvard yuppies from PBS I think of the great m one of the people we did settle on unanimously there was a absolutely a consensus with George C Goodman about and one of the thing I going to talk about now but one of the things I'm looking forward to chatting with you about all of that but one of the things that I'm sort of curious about I I I I I asked Jeff Greenfield this morning and let me ask you and I'll let you go uh well what is a uh a just a casually interested person I mean what should we think what appear with what appears to be reasonably true things about not only Kennedy but Johnson and Nixon and and and these Revelations themselves and the whole business about the presidency you know it's a really good question I mean I think when you take all of the tapes that have come out together particularly the Nixon tape and some of the Johnson tapes and now this Kennedy story it shows that it takes something to make a person go through all the hurdles to become president and by the time they get there they are an odd set of characters I mean look at John F Kennedy liking to swim nude in the white house as HH points out well LBJ also liked to swim nude in the white there's something about president that make you feel your bodies are so beautiful that you should swim nude um there's also they're complicated people people that have that drive for power and I think what seems unfair about just looking at them in the narrow way that hirs does is that the Kennedy tale as the Johnson tale is a complicated compound of you know glory and degradation achievement and tragedy strengths and weaknesses and what you really look for in someone writing about one of these people is some measure of empathy and understanding to rendered to the reader what the person really was with all their flaws and foibles they strange people who had make it to the presidency but also with their strengths and powers and to expose for exposure sake with no proof necessarily of the impact of those exposures on public Behavior which is the only relevant question is part of today's frenzy and I I just worry that sometimes it leaves a country without any respect for our leaders as as as flawed human beings but with strength and without any Heroes I mean certainly the Kennedy White House wasn't the Camelot it was made out to be but I don't think it was the Sodom and gomorah that it now seems to be either you know perhaps he wasn't working every hour of the desk at this day as they claimed in the early biographies but surely he wasn't screwing around as often as herh claims or he wouldn't have gotten anything done so in the end we judge them as public leaders and we know that we're dealing with odd creatures or they wouldn't be there they'd probably be at home with their wives in bed having a happier time and the other uh quandry for people like me just regular folks is who do we believe I mean who do we go you Charles now were talking about this the luxury that we have on this program to be able and I'm believe me I'm not patronizing you but to be able to talk to you or to best loss or or people like Greenfield but I mean most people can't pick the phone up and call you or call them and so you know the the problem is who do you who who do who do you trust well you know that's even true for an historian you can't always know you get so many different ways of looking at something and in the end you just have to go with Instinct you know like there was one line that the Secret Service guy said about John Kennedy that you just know isn't true it said that he was lazy and he really didn't come to work some days and he just was screwing around at night I know from everything I know about John Kennedy can say a lot of other things about him but that's just not true he had been disciplined all his life after he became a young adult man maybe not as a kid to working very hard to become president and the thought that he's just lazily lying around all day in that pool makes no sense from the person I know I suspect was in the pool but then he would jump out and be in his desk also so you have to just use your instinct as to what you know about these people I mean just as you know people wrote about Roosevelt having in somehow instigated Pearl Harbor to get us into the war the man I knew Roosevelt would not have allowed those guys in the Navy 4,000 guys to die in order to do that I I just know that's not right and I think that's what people have to do they have to sort out all this morass and come to their own understanding of what do I think about this person and what's my in think going to be and the more they hear the more they can sort it out for themselves well I mean again you have to have the luxury of being able to be exposed to you know what what you information you can trust anyway that's what's scary because there's such a frenzy now that you you know some young people this may be the only thing they know about John Kennedy and they'll not have any other sense that he also was a public figure who actually did some good things as president of the United States congratulations on your book and I guess I'll talk to you again well we obviously we'll talk to you again here and then I'll see you in January terrific thanks my friend byebye thanks Doris K Goodman the historian here in the IR morning program her current book wait till next year is a memoir about growing up in the 50s as a fan of the Brooklyn Dodgers she's in Kansas City on that book tour and uh wait till next year is uh on the best subtle list so which means you can buy it at amazon.com for about 40% off at Barnes & Noble and places like that for 30% off it's great it's a wonderful book it made Keith alberman cry it didn't make me cry I did like reading it and I like her 13 to Leon you promised an hour ago right that you were going to drop this that there was one more telephone call and two questions to Sam Tannon house and you were going to drop Whitaker Chambers Alder his or just reping what it Happ why do we don't repre this don't repre anything you said you were going to drop it okay well drop it then I F I have you have it obviously haven't dropped it you're still waving the damn books around if your radio Light Sucks in the morning you're listening to in the morning do you understand you have driven us crazy with this crap we're sick of it fine they're dead whiter Chambers is dead aler his is dead Richard Nixon is dead I wish I were dead stop it for God's sake stop okay fine stop it let me just say no the 98.1 the peak wpk you've been nice all year long so Santa's going to bring you that new computer right or maybe he already brought you one and you just need an internet service that hasn't been naughty one that's nice how about one that actually works just program oh man I love talking to Doris K Goodman don't you just the best really she is just terrific but Charles and I we're talking about and you know that's really what the problem is here what is who do you uh I mean you pick up Seymour her's book do you believe seore hsh or do you believe that fat pretentious goof uh Gary Wills do you believe Michael bof do you believe Richard re I mean who do you believe and you know you just re re Ires believe me just an extraordinary amount of reading mhm and um particularly if you don't have the luxury picking up the phone talking to him gotta so um you know there's a national edition of The New York Times that you can get are you aware of that yeah yeah I mean if you live in uh Tucson you can get the New York Times every morning I mean I'm not trying to sell the New York Times but well maybe I am sounds like it sure does must mentioned the IM man well I think the W no they don't I think I don't care about that I think the Washington Post is a great newspaper I think the Boston Globe is a great newspaper um I think the Dallas Morty news is a pretty good newspaper Chicago sometimes I think the the San Francisco Chronicle I think the LA Times Detroit Free Press but if I had one paper that I you would that I could read it would be the New York Times and I mean that would be that just would be it on the old desert island and I don't think you can take a paper seriously that runs Comics frankly that's it you're not going to find him here so no sir plus it's maybe it's dunesbury but that would be it y so uh Fred reads the New York Times every morning he gets the national Edition there in Santa Fe good idea you can go over to Wild Oats there in Santa Fe and they have a dispenser there where you can she got the lingerie helped them out at the New York Times so what man it's just it's an extraordinary newspaper now we got old how Reigns our friend over there I love him him to take off the panties for a couple of months well we got him to take off the panties for a couple of months well he's put on a pair of fatigue shorts here for crying out loud he's got he's got on the hair shorts yeah got on his camo gear yeah up on the deer stand so another another kick butt editorial in this morning's New York Times yeah only weak thing about the times is their sports section they need U that's the Achilles they need somebody with a little Edge there and they they got a bunch of guys pretty much wussies like George vessie who I like a lot but he's pretty much a [ __ ] Bo absolutely which he would admit innocuous no fast ball so they got they don't have anybody over there with a fastball in the sports department so got a couple of guys that threaten occasionally but it's in the high 80s nobody throwing in the '90s yeah sportman of Sil I'm must in the morning 98.1 the peak wpk CNN Radio news I'm David Hull the high school shooting spree that crashed the headlines last week goes to court in Kentucky today CNN radio's John Hollman is there the 14-year-old charged with murder in the heath high shooting spree will be brought into the courthouse in Paduka at about 9:00 local time wearing a bulletproof vest investigators say they plan to enter interview the five surviving victims in the case for the first time today also they plan a formal interview with the parents of the accused boy John Hollman CNN Radio Paduka Kentucky it's also expected that the court will order the teenager tried as an adult Russian president Boris yelton's health is feeling again he's been hospitalized for what Kremlin officials described as cold but the task news agency says yelton will remain there 10 to 12 Days a hijacking ended in Moscow earlier today with nobody hurt a 59-year-old man claimed to have a bomb was arrested after the plane landed after a flight from magedon this is CNN Radio news FBI director Louis free returning to Capitol Hill to explain [Music] [Music] w [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] here now with comment and observation on Headline issues of the day I'm Miss Washington's senior political analyst the late Richard M Nixon hi dude how about this little diddy as we commence today great I miss in the morning shut god with apologies to that group uh what's her name K's choice I believe it is here we go when your pubic hair on fire something's wrong if you think you're the Messiah something's wrong you're on roller skates at Darlington something's wrong or Larry Lawrence at Arlington something's wrong issue one today JD Swiss Miss or if you had Larry Lawrence and the merchant marines you lost you're familiar with this little dust up over a dirtnap so to speak the late ambassador to Switzerland Larry Lawrence buried at Arlington National Cemetery having cited a phantom military service record including being wounded when his Merchant Marine vessel was torpedoed by a ubot let me tell you what's being torpedoed here I dude Larry how come I'm not buried at Arlington JD I'll tell you why because I didn't slip John Wong a check for about 10,000 that's why there's only one place Larry ought to go if he's at Arlington right next to the Unknown Soldier in the Tomb of the Unknown Merchant Marine for Pete's sake dig him up and send him out in the Box labeled for redeposit only all right issue two Whitaker Chambers the missiles of October and the dark side of a [ __ ] no you mean Kennedy I mean you I God when I wrote my very fine work six crises I should have had the foresight to add a seventh dealing with you and Al already with the damn rehash of a bunch of Jive even I lost interest in years ago you're killing us Doo as has been pointed out to you in very direct fashion everybody even remotely associated with aler his and for the most part the Cuban Missile Crisis is in Larry Len land give it up show some mercy here okay Jesus now issue three as we head toward closure today K9 confusion in the capital or when bobber says he's getting a dog could we have some clarification please I'm sure you'll understand my initial bewilderment upon hearing the news that President Clinton's getting a new dog I didn't know what to think but having seen photographs of various alleged Clinton consorts Doo I thought oh my God he's dating again then I saw that the dog is quote chocolate colored and I thought not only is he dating again it's Carol Mosley braa ouch a totally gratuitous look through the old dick scope today I met by one who shouldn't comment having married Pat for God's sake Nick Nixon a deceased former president of the United States 7 minutes after the hour here on the IM morning program coming up here in just a little bit chance for you to win $1,000 in cash and an Nelco Razer the specially designed and numbered Nelco turquoise Buffalo Reflex action Razer from Nelco and the IM C morning program so in a moment I'll uh I will pose a uh a a uh a probably a some kind of lame rock and roll or current events question that'll be fairly easy to answer you can do that win the money in the razor coming up the question yeah number to call 1 1800 370 Imus Bernie why don't you just take a caller and then I'll ask them the question so they'll have to answer it spontaneously just take the first caller take the first caller absolutely Chuck will do the news and then I'll think of something to ask him okay go ahead Chuck FBI director Lou free to be back for more questioning before the house government reform and oversight committee today I man Republicans may ask him about some remarks that he made regarding the White House questioning whether it has really turned over everything that they're supposed to turn over whether he free has been able to see everything that is relevant and apparently he believes otherwise um judge free says the White House has been slow indeed in producing documents in the campaign fundraising investigation here's an exchange with committee chairman Dan Burton that I made a recommendation different from the ultimate outcome in this instance does not even mean there is a professional Rift between us it merely means we disagree on a matter of law a judgment about a legal issue well that was actually uh judge that was Judge free uh discussing whether or not he was in fact involved in any sort of Rift with the attorney general and he said actually not that uh two lawyers can disagree and interpret something uh differently and often do all over there being questioned about the disagreement between the attorney general and FBI director about naming an independent counsel here's Denise from Jupiter Florida good morning Denise good morning all right here's the question for $1,000 and a uh especially numbered designed turquoise Buffalo Reflex action razor from norocco and the AO body Express the question is this once the Attorney General recommends uh the naming of an independent counil it's named by uh the the the independent council is actually named by a panel of Judges how many judges are on that panel seven I'm going to say seven oh you're wrong you made another caller Bernie right away Chuck has more news is 10 minutes after the hour the question is going to get more difficult not only do you have to tell me how many judgers on the panel all right but tell me who which judge heads the panel ah there you go give me another call ber attorney general Janet Reno had uh some Louie had some positive things to say about director free and the FBI I am proud of their work that includes director free who's [Music] [Laughter] counsel oh yeah that's right Jim 12 newal wi you win continues President Clinton is off on it 12 Jesus God come on a straight B is that Tim Russen on the [Laughter] phone President Clinton's off on another three-day trip combining fundraising Christmas shopping and some other duties White House Press Secretary Mike McCurry says if you think it's easy trying to raise money for the Democrats with all these dog on investigations underway well you can think again you make a lot of these people feel like common criminals by implying that everything that that contributing to the work of a political party is something that's uh uh wrong President Clinton today is scheduled a tour a South Bronx New York neighborhood where former tenaments have been replaced by 80 9 single family homes revitalizing that uh area all right here's Brian from Hartford Connecticut good morning Brian how you doing I man how many judges three and who heads the panel the Chief Justice and what's his name um William Brandon no no no well you were half right but it's a special three judge panel yeah and there's a there's a judge that's the same judge who named Kenneth star mhm and uh he's kind of controversial himself you might say yes he is he's he's a friend of Jesse Helms that's a hand so so in other words must be a friend of Chu you lose someone a friend of Charles M Russia's president is in the news IM man because he's back in the hospital evidently Boris yelson hospitalized but they say it's only a cold the interfax news agency citing unidentified sources a spokesman for the Kremlin press service declined to talk about it wouldn't comment the 66-year-old leader has a long history of health problems had heart bypass surgery 13 months back and was Hospital hospitalized and treated for pneumonia a couple of months after his surgery but generally according to most people who have seen him and dealt with him of late has appeared to be relatively uh robust Richard Branson wanted to make a record round the world balloon flight ran into a little problem his balloon broke loose yesterday without him on board and it was as it was being inflated in Morocco it took off without him the balloon came down in Algeria and Mr Branson is now negotiating with Algerian authorities trying to get his balloon back all right here now from West Palm Beach Florida Bernard good morning Bernard good morning how are you sir I'm fine how many judges three who heads the panel c c winner win you're right Bernard Judge David SEL right and it is a three judge panel yep and You' won $1,000 that's great you know how I knew the answer no cuz I've read everything that's been written about wi Chambers fine well I don't know how David s's name popped up there although I wouldn't be surprised if uh if it he was not a supporter Mr Chambers no all right thanks Bernard hang on okay Chuck continues all right Shannon Briggs victory over George Foreman in Atlantic City last month is Raising some questions United state Senator John McCain of Arizona is asking the director of New Jersey's gaming enforcement division whether judges selected for the fight had ties to Shannon Briggs promoter Senator McCain cited a story by the Arizona Republic that questioned whether New Jersey athletic commission uh commissioner Larry Hazard has a financial interest in one of the promoters businesses Hazard was responsible for picking the judges two of whom were virtually unknown in pro boxing and scored the fight for Briggs new New Jersey officials have yet to respond Senator McCain is a sponsor of federal boxing 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okay if your radio sounds funny in the morning you're listening to Imus in the Morning is not now warning because if the future was now Boomer would be with Phoenix and Phoenix would be 10 and three instead of 3 and 10 hey I heard boomer this morning Fred's wrong again Boomer is great as long as his team is 2 and8 or 4- n if the game counts he stinks come on I guess that's a game you didn't bet on I wouldn't bet on any game you [Music] pick 98.1 the peak wpk life's hectic and it's not very often you have time to relax since the holidays can be especially hectic here's a suggestion stop by the open book you will find the perfect holiday gift for people of all ages and something for yourself the open book has been in Greenville 25 years and has experienced in giving you personal service they have a great selection of hard-to find books and the largest selection of calendars in Greenville need a book special ordered the open book will be happy to do that [Music] [Music] Imus in the Morning 2020 Sports you will go to the videotape here's Warner Wolf chief chief Hi man Hi man I am IM Miss in the morning this 24 afterr and why wasn't listening that's right that's okay you're the IM man time for while I don't even have my headphones on can't fire yourself absolutely not I'm very sorry I apologize was there any dead air there just a little just a momentary can't have that good morning good morning thank you I man NBA last night the Bulls beat the Knicks to 82 Michael Jordan becomes the third alltime leading score in the NBA behind Kareem and Wilt now late in this game Jordan threw an elbow at the Knicks Chris Childs and Childs threw the ball at Jordan uh here's the Bulls Neil Funk and now child and Michael go after each other and that's that's a typical Nick situation y it's a typical situation after the game Chris child gave his version of the situation he hit me in the back of the head and I took offense to that and I don't care who you are I don't care who you are that's that's not a part of the game I will cut you choking you you can't throw a ball at Michael Jordan you can throw it at anybody else but not Michael Jordan it's against the law and that was Child's best pass of the night you should have heard Breen going on what a what a panty wearing Homer Butt Boy his predecessor God Almighty yeah exactly now we know what happens to these guys bring going well I have to learn to walk away from that oh God it was disgraceful I mean why why don't I mean we do not need to be preached to and it's so lame anyway when these play-by-play announcers and braen it's just every cliche on the book Sticks and Stones he's got written down there and he just by almost wrote recites them let the picture tell the story and then he's got that old nut John Andre's there chiming in and man I mean they just uh between sips of beer it's pathetic you know it really is it's just just mading thank God they lost that's all I care about you know ahead eight days after attacking coach PJ carosa Mo Warriors Latrell spr well publicly apologized yesterday attorney Johnny Cochran one of the many representing spre well gave his view of the situation we would hope to expect that the penalty imposed on anybody mr's situation shut up you know I can't even pronounce his client's name he's so desperate to get back in the Limelight this is a guy who has a blood sucking weasel with this Dreadful embarrassing show on court TV that they just reveal him to be the Clin uh you know blood sucking desperate weasel that he is well now wait a minute God what a phony Cochran's C's inclusion in this legitimized fre Welles position for trying to make this a race issue is is is ridiculous and I don't have any doubt this fre Well's probably a pretty nice kid and just has a bad temper but this is don't don't don't sit down there and tell us that this is the first time anything like this has ever happened in your life when you attacked your teammate Jerome KY uh threatened to beat him up with a 2x4 and then threaten to come back with a gun yeah twice he threatened to kill somebody so I mean if you got a guy who's twice threatened to kill somebody he's lucky in any other situation having committed this act he would have been charged he would have been he would have been arrested and charged with a felony try assault he'd be in jail and and Johnny Cochran would be there trying to get him trying to get it pled down to a misdemeanor what are they talking about here being a sea block Warriors I mean that's that's you know that's just absolutely ridiculous the whole thing by by the way there's no excuse for people like that punk PJ carisimo either I'm not excusing his behavior no I mean he's a jerk and they they ought to get guys like that they you know these players I don't care who black or white players that's not that's irrelevant it's not a race issue believe me there's a plenty of issues in this country that are race issues this is not one of them it's not the issue it's not suddenly a race issue no but after 40 or 50 years of basketball what are you talking about here it's about the benjes yeah man that's what it's about about to Benjamin's baby absolutely but PJ car PJ carisimo should he should be thrown out of the league as well wonder what Hood the IR man grew up in yeah that's it 411 right money Compton I learned so that's so that's what I'm saying Johnny Cochran and that art tell him what a punk he is and and and and who's that buffoon Billy Hunter what's his story yeah you know you're in trouble with the National Basketball station when the president of the players league is that nitwit Patrick y the missing L Jesus get out of here president president Ying get out of here oxy Mo on there somehow or other come on I'm too tired to be Bernard the guy disparaging the Knicks who also just the other day was trying to get tickets to take his kid to a Knicks game so nothing better than watch the Knicks lose in their own house so well now wait a minute own house you you have revealed yourself to be a transparent Nick butt boy like the rest of them that's ridiculous one thing you will never see me at is a Nick's game I did it for my son well I do anything for my boy well expose him to the real world go ahead War come on war sleeping what will now be referred to as the Jerry Jones rule the NFL tired of seeing the Cowboys owner running up and down the sidelines trying to influence the referees has sent out a memo to all 30 NFL owners from now on no Club Personnel will be allowed to Badger or try to intimidate officials during the game sit down Jerry Jones abely get him out are you tired of hockey fights no no not at all well how about a hand for Montreal I mean the coach can't even say anything to the uh coaching players yeah sure well the coaching players can but but that's it why can't uh Jerry Jones simply designate himself a coach could well of course he could make himself a coach go the future is the future is gone Ken Dryden now the general manager of Toronto Maple Leafs as far as he's concerned the National Hockey League should not be treating fighting as though it's part of the game gotcha now that's that's different from what the owners feel because they think if you cut out fighting a good percentage of the people will stop coming to the game but if you really wanted to cut out fighting very simple drop your gloves you're out of the game because they can't fight with the gloves on what if they fall off accidentally they still can't fight they can't hit and hold but but if the rule is drop the gloves what if what if your gloves what if your hand itches and you take your gloves off to itch your hand what if your hands are hot and sweaty oh you're out change the rules you got to change the rues prevent off finally ask Kim Abdul Jabar hockey players should all change their name k ABD jaar finally it falls off you lost your Club fell St get him out finally after after constantly being ridiculed for my pro picks on the Imus in the Morning Show week after week let's go back to last Friday the Colts Jets game what's your next big friend Jets over the Colts well we know what Mike thinks the Jets will win this game and beat Tampa Bay they will win their next two game I would take the Colts and the seven points thank God and I'll I'll tell you why what seven of their losses six points or less oo did you know that Mike yes but what we're talking about one is the idea is to win the game they've won one out of one game out of 13 W come back to us please Colts 22 Jets 4 right water that's it but you didn't pick the Colts to win outright now wait a minute you picked the Colts to cover to cover they were seven-point Underdog you don't cover when you're the underdog I'm saying take the Colts and S they won't lose by seven points there's no way the Jets will win by seven but they could have won by three and you still would have I would have won that's right but so you so my point is you did not pick the cols to win the game now get out of the studio well thank you very much War wolf ni little Le dashing through the snow oh ho ho ho what the f he got oh oh ho ho ho Santa got Kinsey milone she's the pi who follows her own law [Music] 23 minutes silly hour the aut body Express uh new products are all up on the worldwide web at Autobody express.com all one word and holiday specials going on sales Nikon authorized dealer and buy a prona 6i and that nikore zoom lens they'll give you 150 bucks on any camera you want to trade in so yall go see your authorized Nikon dealer when you feel alone no one can see me need a friend pick up the telephone that's good cuz I look stupid and call on brother fr800 put you 272 1957 don't hang on the phone my life sucks cuz everybody needs my job is going nowhere all all body [Music] shares and hats my wife smells like cheese sometimes everything is wrong my kids think I'm a [ __ ] life seems like a Delbert song Here Come the weekend call for Leed friend I'm a victim of life's circumstances if you feel like looking cool stop singing stop singing stop singing don't think they cost too much 1957 including shipping if it's busy we'll hang on like I have nothing else better to do cuz everybody wants he's killing us to talk to brother Fred so I gave him my credit I look cool and AO now I am happening and auto bu denim workshirt now my life has meaning and Auto baby Fred denim work shirts and Auto Body denim jackets with the Santa Fe flag in the back and Auto Body Santa Fe edition T-shirts that have a blue Chevrolet and the four-legged Fred Edition that's got picture of four-legged FR and the front and AO nobody um other stuff it is 18 Till the hour here on the IM morning program tomorrow on the iris morning program access Hollywood's Pat O'Brien oh boy well I'll tell you something uh okay of those shows and not because he's my friend or your friend or have or that he's been sort of loosely associated with this program for a long time it is the best of those shows it is the of those shows it's level is a is a little higher and it's because of him yeah oh he brings a veneer of sophistication to the program and that's not the disparage our little friend jelle Fernandez or the uh or uh the little blonde babe on it or any of those other people they're fine no but uh O'Brien is uh a notch above all those folks because one he's smart remember O'Brien came out of news once working with David Brinkley and those folks yeah before he decided you know to go Heraldo on us yeah yeah but O'Brien is smart and funny yep and I saw a uh an interview he did with Denzel Washington that was just first R yep I'm not surpris funny and charming and seemed like yeah but how was Pat seemed like Mr Washington enjoyed it in that I'm sure Denzel is tired of talking to idiot Barbie doll Talking Heads on these lame Entertainment Television programs so and I even I even spoke to Mr Brian privately and congratulated him on his performance which he seemed very suspect at my praising him as well he should yeah waiting for the other shoter oh sure it's like when I tell Lupa but like Lupa WR Callum and I'll I'll say to Lupa you know feel was a great column there's always a pause you know yeah if he's waiting for you know but you suck your little shrimp as though you're you're concealing the hammer holding it down thigh you know what Lua doesn't know that one of my doormen Matt uh talvi I believe his name is it's not my doorman he a doorman in a building where I own an apartment has been writing to shoot from the lip for about eight years now and every letter he's ever written has been published no kidding yeah he was in the column last Sunday really yeah I love it obviously a big Lupa fan yeah as are we so he's the one I have a perfect relationship with who's been a friend of mine for 20 years buff that 20 has it been 20 years I don't think it's been quite that long but it's been a while yes I never have to see him that's and that is the relationship that you seek with friends is it not yes I simply speak with him on the phone perfect for him he's loving and um believe me he's oh sure that does not just disappoint him this is a two-way street believe it's not it's not like Lupa saying oh gosh Taylor can we get together with Don and Deedra like anyone's saying that no not well my wife has friends I don't have any friends but anyway uh it's going to be dark tonight too it's a quarter till L hour also the New York state parks commissioner uh bernardet Castro she'll be here tomorrow great yeah uh with her new mush hm looking like hoochi men yeah skin uh skin stretched tighter than uh Mick fleetwood's snare drum she could use one of those n ruckles for a chin now you know I'm watching PBS last night and they're running this Fleetwood Mac concert that they just did and so I'm talking to Lou this morning and I said because Lou is the man's uh cultural bridge to uh rock and roll yeah because I'm still back in the days of Leed Zeppelin you know John May and that's where I kind of dropped off caned heat caned heat Tommy dorsy yeah oh well no Tomy dorsy Lim lighters so I always I just always dismissed Fleetwood Mack as a group like the Archies I mean I never took it much more seriously than that yeah the Partridge Family or cheese yeah but I guess I've been making a mistake there you go see because Stevie Nicks first of all is great I mean she's only a couple years younger than I am and Lindsay Buckingham I mean is a great guitar player plus plus plus a plus a great act a great you know can play he can play and sing and write so we got Stevie Nicks who's great and Lindsey Buckingham old fat Mick Fleetwood who's a absolute whack job and then uh John MC John mcve is on base and his wife who plays keyboards she's very good too she's great too I mean so so i d and I watching this concert last night so these people are you're thinking what was I where where have I been why I why was I so dismissive of these people I mean like we were listening to the Eagles the other day me and Rob to to the album um that heartaches tonight's on and long run that's sely those are I mean those are great records well for my taste but uh and I on my Jude boox you know I've got a I've got couple of Fleetwood Mac albums I've never listened to that changes now that's over sure that changes in 13 minutes absolutely up go now so every day I go back to and I punch up Delbert or Dwight Yokum or Eagles or they can hear it on the third [Laughter] floor that's where that's at that's what I'm saying deal with IM man Big W what did to deal with the IM man all right let me tell you what you can do here's a big big Southwest holiday uh uh project for you you go to patad golf appliances there in El Paso Texas buy a big screen TV right go over to your Jeep dealer there in El Paso buy one of these new 5.9 limited Grand Cherokee Jeeps okay all right I've got it take it over to River AutoCraft and see Keenan and cleat yep have them customize it for you then buy a trailer for it drive over to Sherman Barnett's uh uh Harley-Davidson dealership by the way the world's largest Harley-Davidson dealership buy one of them big Hogs from Sherman then get back in your customized Jeep with your big screen TV in it and with your Harley on the trailer in the back yeah drive up to the man's hat shop in Albuquerque New Mexico they're on Central Avenue buy go and see Stewart and boys and buy yourself a big old resist Hall and you'll find that this this whole project is taking you about a month MH and you spent around $70,000 you really need to be put to sleep but you're happy back in the 70s believe me so I but I wasn't paying any attention and you were sitting there with me they're better now and uh they're better now you played them but you didn't uh you didn't absorb dismissed him the flew Mac to me was a part that wasn't real music John May though that that was you know those are those are records uh Led Zeppelin that those are records not these clowns the some of the eagle stuff not these people however captain beart that was a Frank Zappa that's what I was into not Fleetwood Mack well what has happened the Archies huh The Archies that kind of stuff but I mean I I watched them the other night and then I listened to their album yesterday and um I don't have the video for this but this is a great cut from their new album which is in the top five all over the country and of course they're on tour thing called Silver Springs at Stevie Nick [Applause] [Music] Road message with [Applause] we go beyond them sorry baby I'm s War news time it's 5 minutes past the hour and coming up in a little bit the New York State's C Parks commissioner our old friend uh Bernard at Castro who could very well very very well can't it's a matter with you could very well be the new lieutenant governor of the state of New York could be Could Happen she ran against Pat monan for the United States Senate last time around got 40% of the vote damn near w you know how does that help us her yeah I don't know I like her she's very smart me does it help us if she's lieutenant governor it doesn't I I like the current governor by the way paky about uh leave my president alone too dick Mo said a good quote about Bill Clinton but people were speculating during his second term whether he was going to go left or go right Morris said nobody thought he was going to go to sleep which is essentially what he's done he's a fat loser what's your not like him but he's a fat been president how much more money have you made terms of the economy it certainly had nothing to do with him well he's president United States no it had to do with Mel Carmon that's who it had of course Mel Carmon okay well had nothing to do with Bill Clinton car Bill Bill Clinton's a creep and a you know I like him though I don't I don't think he's a bad guy he ain't signing your check but since well he is has something to do with that since he became president please just butt out we're trying I'm I'm trying to's coming up econom better Hank Hill he's going to be here on Al Gore the Antichrist so that's what's coming up this morning and Pat O Brien from Access Hollywood is here another Hollywood liberal right I'm a McGovern Democrat by the way South Dakota McGovern Democrat I just got this book in the M blacks in your neighborhood tender comrades about the Hollywood Black List what are you talking about Bernie house unamerican Activities Committee when where is Bernie were grilling these Hollywood Communists right dton trumo those people yeah so I'll be getting into this now God great be focusing on this do you hand out rope and weapons when you start getting into these issues do you realize how the aleris thing plays I'm up early in the morning as you know I'm a runner okay so I run and I turn on of course the I'm is the morning program yeah on 570 KAC in Los Angeles um and I have to listen to you talk about these things and in La know that you're listening to KAC and the I'm wi program it might be helpful if you would tell somebody I try to tell my neighbors yeah why don't you call KAC and tell them maybe a promo would help hello fellas how about a billboard magazine article but anyway it doesn't play well I mean I love you and we've been friends for how long yeah 17 18 years well you're an idiot you're an idiot because you're bringing these things I'll talk about what the hell I want to talk about people listen I mean it's ridiculous thing to talk about Alerus for four weeks the book was nominated the Whitaker Chambers porography was nominated for a national don't interrupt me when I'm talking uh Tang hair the uh the um Whit Chambers written by Sam Tannon house was nominated for a national book award well Cold Mountain which won the national book award for for fiction is a novel about the Civil War they're still Doris Kern's goodwi which is a great book is is writing a book about Lincoln I can certainly talk about Hill aler because you're angry because you don't because you know what you're an angry guy you're an old man you know what let me tell you something you're in your mid-60s no I'm not what are you talking about in my mid-50s what's the matter with you you're a God what a liar and first of all I have all my own hair I'm not going around with tang hair this is my hair here this is my hair oh please you're talking to us we this is my hair it's bad hair I don't look like Gib you know what kind of hair you have you have Gib you have Tony coiner hair it's minutes after the hour time for the national news and here with all of the national news and world events idiot Charles MC you know right right now I don't like you I love you deep down inside but right now I'm not oh God I'm so upset Bernie get my Prozac how am I going to get through the morning good morning Char man good morning nobody cares about these issues didn't I just say good morning introduce Charles to do the news what what's wrong with you I'm just saying I'm I'm speaking I'm say what I am right now you're off the air that's what you are go ahead Charles I am an ambassador for all your listeners please stop talking about things we don't care about go ahead Charles bring back the old D go ahead the funny one police say they are in near constant contact with a murder suspect holding two kids hostage in Orlando how do you like how about this well that aler H sure had a big penis you like that does that matter God oh and they say they're taking John Armstrong's word that two children who are two and four years old are still okay conversations with the children back up Armstrong's assertions that he's treating them all right police spokesman Sergeant Jeff G says the hostage crisis is tough on everybody including the cops we all have children and uh it's it tugs at you a little bit you want this you know you hope and pray that this thing ends cut off his penis gram said the woman what go ahead the woman uh it was very quick apparently it didn't require you know any time to commit this act and that Mr Hall did not get to the hospital for some 8 hours after the incident paramedics found him collapsed on the front law surgeons there were not able to reattach it so so he has lost that um we also understand that he's lucky to be alive had he had he waited much longer to summon Aid uh he literally could have bled to death so the unable in this uh in in this particular episode of a a penis severing to reattach the organ hate when that happens I do too good but I mean she got even right she got even for the death of a of a friend good for her she did was it a scissors or I don't know KNE saw a knife knife don't know maybe it was one of those New Black & Decker have you seen that Christmas thing what's the power pack it's what I've asked for Christmas it's the Black & Decker's uh portable saw m has nothing to do with the story no right so far 14 after the hour on the I'm program the New York state parks commissioner bernardette Castro is coming up we'll be chatting with her also I'm not leaving par me I'm not leaving do I have to leave no you don't have to leave so but we do want to talk with Miss Castro my old friend right whose husband by the way is my doctor Dr Peter GAA so and he's responsible for keeping you alive yeah he saved my life in fact well he did yeah and and performed his lung surgery that was was not a pleasant situation anyway what he was doing an autopsy I wonder if he used the Black & Decker power pack or whatever that have you seen that you you're going to want one of these things when you get no I'm not going to want one Pat please butt out do you have anything else Char uh the president and his wife raised close to $2 million I'm in from New York City fat cats on the president's fourth fundraising trip to the city this year and if the two fundraising dinners the president attended last night here meet expectations the clintons and vice president G will have pulled in almost $5 million from New York Democrats this year for party coffers he's in Miami today attending about three more fundraisers as they try to retire at least some of the democratic party's $13 million debt quarter after the hour here on the morning program now here on Miss morning program blind Mississippi white boy Pig Feast toi with Bubba got a puppy Blues on God got a s sad diddy about that fine presidential feline socks first kid is full of self-pity cuz it seems there's a new pet in her little box man's best friends in the over office just a chewing on bubba shoes that cat be having herself a cow cuz she got some competition now who Bow Wow instead of meow Bubba's got himself a puppet Blu poor old socks is losing ground cuz a master Billy is acting kind of silly for that little bitty Hound like Roosevelt did follow and Bush for his [ __ ] Milly her feline feelings and kitty Pride well don't you know they both been bruised instead of purring she be moaning cuz she feeling so alone and no one's throwing her no bone cuz Bubba got himself a Bubba blue seems the top dog he was tired of being the only male so he was inspired to a chire someone else who chases tail she's afraid the prent will leave her for some mangy little mut like Richard Nixon's Checkers some cute Labrador Retriever Who Bite the process server and bury them billing record she going to add herself to the list of [ __ ] Bubby he done screw seems that every dog must have his day better call the ASPCA the ca gone Mia Boo the flat TW wa on the camaran sand TR now Bubba ain't got socks to kick around no more blue let me lick myself here please don't lick yourself blind that ain't bad Miss what take for de I took one look and I was fractured I tried to walk but I was lame I got to talk but I just stut W what's your name what's your name what's your name what's your name I'm a in the morning 98.1 the peak wpk are you looking for the perfect Christmas gift for someone special Lynn Phillips would like to help this holiday season with something unique from framing plus located at the corner of Woodruff Road and Highway 14 at Maxwell pass it down the lane D Pier Down the Lane Smith 4 seconds yeah it's all it took was 4 seconds that's all I can stand fine Golden State beats the LA Lakers good morning Mike brainwood Sports Tim Roy the call from San Francisco where the Warriors beat the Lakers 9392 second straight home win for the Warriors since Latrell spre well was fired spr well supporters continue to be heard the latest New York State's Parks commissioner bernardet Castro this man is one of the finest men I have ever met Castro standing by her friend of many many years and she'll com further on the well situation later on here on theis in the morning C andrell are friends known each other for a long time when did she say that we missed that when did she say that you know what who she was talking about on Nightline she was talking about Saul Walker remember that Saul Walker is a Supreme Court Judge here in New York who was mail and who was who was stalking this woman and writing her uh uh he was having an affair with some woman and then he wrote her threatening letters he sent her 14-year-old daughter a condom in the mail I mean it's a nut he did some time right course a diary abolutely black like me Diaries and he was in a halfway house yeah or under house arrest or something and uh and somehow bernardet got she she somehow thought that Saul Walker was listening to this radio program so she calls up in fact I said he was listening which I'm having obviously no idea right she calls up remember sure I do and she's talking to judge Walker through this radio program thinking that he's sitting there with his handcuffs on listen electronic beeper around his yeah exactly it a weird deal hang in there Soul we're all with you yeah and is she a friend of his is that yeah she well he was he was a he was a big he was a huge highly connected guy here in New York and he turned out to be a freak you know and G he claimed he was on medication of course right Mike brain continues Washington Wizards lost to the Hornets in Charlotte last night rough game for both Rod Strickland and Tracy Murray of the Wizards no surprise at the team's Hotel prior to the game the two teammates exchanging blows one with left Murray with a cut that required stitches after he took a punch in the face from Strickland who apparently landed several punches as the NBA with some fine Representatives continue here in the 97 they arguing about Strickland stole his Sam Tannon housee book his M man Football news Jim Kelly may come out of retirement the former Bills quarterback said yesterday several NFL teams have made offers for him to return next season yeah Kelly says he doesn't know if he'll return or not he's right now broadcasting for NBC Sports meanwhile Tom Osborne is not returning that's for sure he's retiring after 25 years as head coach at Nebraska that announcements much to the dismay of first lady Hillary Clinton oh Tom many other people feeling the same way for poor Tom Osborne the man who will succeed him is Frank solich I don't know that you replace Tom Osborne as much as you follow him that makes sense no Osborne will Coach the team his final game the Orange Bowl against Tennessee and could go out as a national champion they're undefeated they're not going to be national champions no they're not because the coaches will not the coaches will not vote them National why would you say that the Missouri game was a was a freak game uh the coaches you know barely beat Colorado barely beat Colorado everybody knows that schedule no all right so UCLA if they win and Michigan loses then they won't be national champions is that what you're telling me I don't think Michigan's going to lose it's the best defense in was question that wasn't the question answer the questions Pat please 26 after the hour here what I'm saying I've never really done this kind of thing before have you third rain romance R Ro in the morning KY milone she's the pi who follows her own law to the letter M is for money one family has a lot of it mystery that's why they've called a detective murder is what lies ahead for milhome Kinsey milhome M is for malice the number one best seller by Sue GR M is for malice finally in paperback from faucet know why men don't use electric razor blame blade guy the tough guy in all of us blade guy doesn't ask for directions he starts the car and goes when he cuts himself shaving he still roughs it with blades maybe he should try the nurco reflex action razor to get close with less irritation than blades after a 21-day adjustment period if blade guide doesn't agree there's a 60-day money back guarantee it's just what blade guy needs to stay sharp on his next road trip The nuro Reflex action razor 98.1 the peak wpk Empire uh that her father founded back in the 20s or 30s when it was and uh she sold that went into politics and she ran for the Senate against Dam Patrick mouran and Dam near won yeah Dam near beat the old drum absolutely and then she was named by uh George Pataki uh the New York state parks commissioner and I used to make fun of uh Governor [ __ ] to miss Castro until I met Governor [ __ ] and he is a wonderful wonderful man and I discovered that that he that he's just a what a great guy and a bright guy and a terrific governor and everything you said he was yeah and I thought you were simply just sucking up to him as it sounds like I'm doing and I'm not no he is I'm so glad you discovered him the more you know Governor [ __ ] the more you like him that's that's really the truth and and that will continue as your relationship with him grows over the months ahead well we're not going to it's not going to grow we're just going to have him on occasionally I like him and not going to be a big relationship there going to be a big relationship but I do like the governor I have to admit that and he likes you miss Castro used to make records back in the 60s did you meet Pat o Bren yeah I did I said hi to do I just sit here now or what's the deal do you want me to leave no we're talking with Miss Castro she's Our Guest but I mean I've been moved over to this little chair and yeah well it's just like people move down on the on the sofa andon show if you want me to leave I'd be happy to no no you don't have to leave just let me talk to Miss Castro the New York state parks commissioner one of the things you might want to do p a host have you ever seen Access Hollywood you can be honest no you haven't had I haven't yet I haven't yet have you ever seen Entertainment Tonight yes occasionally I have seen okay well this Access Hollywood is is a new deal it's it's with jelle is that on it's on all of them 7:30 in New York it's a Showbiz thing okay Miss Castro used to make records back in the 60s yeah and way back at one time mean sang on them or yeah yeah she sang yeah isn't that embarrassing I no it's great she nearly had to deal with Motown except she wouldn't sleep with Barry Gordy right oh stop was that the deal that don't be ridiculous sleep with him no and he never he's a fine he was a gentleman so now there's a new album out called called the there's a new album out called the girl group sound The Darlings of the 60s of which I get no residuals for and we have to do something about that Mr yeah you really need the money volum this woman lives in a 55 room mansion out in Lloyd haror and her husband Dr Peter guy is one of the finest heart and L surgeons in America who did your lung surgery and uh so you have look how well you are you have enough money this is on Shaboom records and it features uh it features people like the Daylights the J Cy King the shanga The Joy Ginger and the snaps Carol King Ginger and the candy Cole the gleams the Sherry sisters Barbara Chandler April young Josephine Sunday and bernardet Castro oh God this is going to be one you're going to like a thing called a girl in love forgets he can break my heart and he can make me cry a girl in love for gives fell that she loves I could never bring myself to say goodbye a girl that love gives no matter what he does he's a run around and he is a FLIR but no matter what he is I forgive and I forg when you me that I you could never hate him if he went away a girl enough fores the she loves deserve that I deserve lesle Gore situation you know it's not bad it's c for for that time that's cute and it's not bad at all pretty good actually it's very good who's saying he's a rebel that's thank you he's a rebel and I don't know oh March could be the Shang what's her name March Peggy March oh Peggy March yeah I that no no that's not who he a that make yeah anyway that's called a girlin love forgives Bern Castro so and they're out of those things anyway I just brought that because you have a juke box and I think it's appropriate if that goes in your juke box it's not going to take the place of say grace graceand no I don't think so did you guys travel around did you did you like do G Bernie just set in my headphone as the crystals right I got that 25 to hour here in the I'm program as I point out Miss Castro is a New York state parks commissioner and I guess is in the running to be lieutenant governor you don't know I really don't know I think the governor is going to really make the decision probably closer to the convention in May but I love what I'm doing now and he's a great guy to work for and he loves parks and open space in the environment so I'm excited about what I'm doing right now oh we and I pay taxes of course in New York state and New York City right we pay you 100 Grand a year to do this job right cl to that how much is it do we need to discuss this now why it's our money every Cabinet member makes the same thing no raises how much 91,000 a year Jes 7 days a week 24 hour call where do we appla running running we see 65 million visitors a year where do I get that well you're not there greting them with a smokey of the bear hat on let me just tell something Mr I welcome Central Park 98% of the 151 parks that you own the 35 historic sites and I am here to invite you the photographer that you are yeah for your duty to the state of New York the great Empire State we would like you to pick any park scene you would like this is Niagara FSE and you can see the photo is not that good no it's not we would like you and we give you credit if you we would be honored if you would shoot the photo for the cover of this new parks guide 100 Grand 91,000 he wants 91,000 want 100 Grand to do it that's what I what do you mean we are looking for a pro bono photograph cuz we we ordinarily print a quarter of a million of these we're going to print a half a million to a million if you do the photo for the cover okay well caola pay you will I'll be happy to you will yeah how about if I do it my new Nikon this is this is big this is big tell 23 till talking about Castro the Parks Commission of New York state so psyched that lacell Lawrence Rockefeller is receiving an award tonight from Governor [ __ ] what who is Lawrence Rockefeller Lawrence Rockefeller she related to Nelson Rockefeller yes okay his brother brother Nelson's brother there were five children he had a p implant too don't start this with Lawrence Rockefeller one of the great conservationists of all time the family the Rockefeller family think of what they've done I was talking to Doris Kern Goodman the historian yes the noted historian who wrote who won the Pol Sur prise for her right book on the Roosevelts has a current bestseller uh called weit next year she was the one who told me remember on this program yes I do about Nelson Rockefeller having a blow up weenie oh please don't DET not before Saturday night you can it entire Rockefeller family will be what kind of award lawence roeller getting then he's getting Governor Pataki's parks and preservation award for 1997 it is a mega honor uh Lawrence Rockefeller and the Rockefeller family have donated hundreds of acres to New York State Green Space magnificent property and they didn't have to do that they could have sold it to developers the Rockefeller family truly is behind conservation and and the environment you know when Nelson Rockefeller unfortunately passed away it was in his matter I I just don't like where this is headed do you know what I'm saying interested I'm no because the Rockefeller family let's talk about something else I'm just say they are a wonderful family I'm sure they are but you just may find this amusing you have a great I don't think I will find this amusic I can tell you I will let me just say let me God let me finish Mrs Castro when he died you know he was having sex with this he wasn't having sex with anyone his wife happy Rock wonderful woman wonderful woman Mar listen let me tell you about what just happened let me just subject he they I learned this from Doris K Goodman the historian they show up there and so they were concerned that they were going to that they were that they were not going to be able not good they didn't want to have they didn't want to have the EMS people show up with Governor Rockefeller in bed with this woman let's talk about the Doris Duke Foundation who just gave us$5 million there's another no stupid we haven't gotten the check yet $5 million so they propped him up in a chair they stuck they stuck a copy of the Wall Street Journal on his lap but they put the shoes on the wrong feet Don they you don't you don't honestly believe that that's the most silly tied from the other side EXA the paper was upside down the paper was upside down and by the way they could the thing I mentioned before they couldn't get it down look you don't understand you don't understand the magnitude of what you are doing right now to me your friend I thought you'd like to know this stuff I don't want to know this stuff why would you walk in here the three of us why any woman would walk into this room say this this ought to be fun let's go on the IM show let's plug my charity let me just go in and take my clothes off Rockefeller unel no oh this is terrible hey honey honey guess what I did this morning oh my do you understand my eyes I'm cry I think I'll get dressed up and go so 19 minutes Nelson's two sons Nelson junr and Mark will be there happy Rockefeller used to call nson J we got to do some SP I'll be right back is she really going out with him well there she is let's ask her Betty is that Jimmy's ring you're wearing mhm gee it must be great riding with him is he picking you up after school [Music] today by the way where didd you meet him I met him at the candy St you turned around and smiled at me you get the picture yes we see that's when i f i in the morning 98.1 the peak wpk the grand opening has begun at westminster's new Windixie Marketplace US Highway 76 in Oak Street come register free to [Music] win my wife uh on these photo shoots my wife serves as my art director wonderful so if I'm going to take a picture of I'm so excited if I'm going to take a picture of Niagara Falls we have to make a comod for me and Missus I would never think of doing anything I'm going to shoot it with I'm going to shoot it with that Fuji camera fabulous but using Kodak film of Rochester the great Eastman Kodak people and they have a museum and they want you to see I will be using Fuji film no you won't and listen to me and you know what I also want to want put your photo I think you know what I want to shoot it with I want to shoot it with a Nikon why are you doing this what well I don't know Nikon I'm sure they have some jobs here in New York but Olympus I think has more jobs fui has jobs but not Eastman Kodak and Rochester the can you me can you get me a role of Kodak film that's any good absolutely can you can you give me a roll of Kodak film that even remotely compares to Fuji V better challenge no you can't I've already done it I've been through this no I'm going to call the Eastman Kodak people they have this Museum Don where film they have yeah it sucks oh you don't mean that can you get in the Kodak blimp you don't mean was the lens cap off the camera well on this particular occasion it was 13 till the hour we're talking with bernardette CER she's a New York state parks commissioner yep and Saturday night Governor Rockefeller is presenting uh governor paky governor paky is presenting something to Lawrence Rockefeller who's the brother of uh the late David and Nelson right and uh so anyway let's talk about Doris Duke now Foundation that gave us the final $5 million of the $55 million purchase of Sterling Forest this is a federal issue the feds gave us money Governor Whitman gave us 10 Governor [ __ ] put in 16 and now we were short five MH this week the Doris Duke New Foundation number 12 in the country they'll probably be swamped with phone calls gave us the final 5 million who handles who who administers that because she's not around anymore she nuts any no they have a they EXC me she she was nuts any no no no she was slightly accent but she was a wonderful woman who loved animals she loved the Arts Jaz she locked up in her house with like 100 cats or something Charles something something along the no she didn't have some some animal there's some animal story there she had lots of variety like Noah's Arc she had a few camels she liked animals okay so one of her Estates she had a couple camels one of her Estates she just loved her animals no she was weird but she loved jazz music she was not weird when she involved in some big divorce some nasty big divorce deal or some her Butler married her or something or they Garden she get with doing there was some big uh State settlement problem there that's that's behind us all the litigation is behind the foundation Mr James Gil who's a fine fine lawyer in New York is Chairman and uh Joan speo from a former executive of the americ Express is the executive director okay good congratulations okay thank you who's going to run against damato do you think against Senator damato I don't know you know his numbers are getting so strong um that I think they're getting better they're they're getting strong for him it's wrong you know he's always been an underdog this early would it be great if Jalene Ferraro ran against him well I I think it' be pretty tough for Senator deato to bring up the mob stuff with her right and her husband no and he wouldn't do that anyway he would do that I'm talking to you he he will stick to the issues and I think he will point to the fact far to the left no I think he's going to cite the fact that she's far to the left and says I'm Geraldine Ferraro from the left I'm Geraldine Ferraro on CNN you don't think he's going to talk about her husband people's bodies in their Tru a drug dealer son a drug dealer will talk about issues and how she will come down to the left of every single issue there is and that and it will be an interesting race and he will win when are you going to run again you know what I love being in this appointed cabinet position I can understand why Kissinger no I swear to God Kissinger never ran for office think of the policy making think of how he worked with so many different leaders and I mean George [ __ ] I have I personally I'm not speaking speaking for the governor or his staff personally I think he's going to be president one day and I think Governor if you're listening I want to be Secretary of the Interior why don't you just simply call the governor rather than coming on his program and like like remember the time you were on the program on the phone you're talking to sa Walker I thought you thought Saul was listening have you seen him since he got out of jail by the way I haven't I haven't but he's turned his life around he's now teaching and and but didn't you guys used to be friends we certainly did I sense a condom somebody and somebody you turn your back on you know what I didn't turn my back Saul Walker anyone will tell you that knew him this was unbelievably shocking because this was a brilliant man and he is still brilant thank you Bernard he is not dead he's a brilliant man he is teaching he is writing um he's turned his life around he was Ill at the time and I'm sure we all have regrets Don and you have regrets I wasn't mailing condoms for 14-year-old kids I know I don't know I did a little cocaine or some LSD and drank a little bit but I mean I wasn't a and stalking women so right and it was just unfortunate all I can tell you is I no one can make excuses for it other than to say he was sick and he made a horrible mistake so but he's brilliant when you guys have these big dinner parties sa's not there anymore right no the time you stood me up at my daughter's wedding my only daughter's wedding you had a seat to my right the mother of the bride Saul Walker was at the table uh the then publisher of news day was there Bob Johnson and you were in no show Don and people waited for you all night we waited had sa been arrested BR my little daughter's heart had Saul been arrested at that time no about two weeks later uh January 12th January 12 big day go ahead suprem is the Supreme Court going to issue a decision or hear arguments in the ls Island thing they're just going to hear arguments about who owns LS Island and it's really quite ridiculous who does Own It New York New York owns it there was a pack back in the 1800s between New York and New Jersey and the language says that New York shall have authority over Ellis Island my father arrived at Ellis Island Italian immigrant do you think he thought he arrived in New Jersey give me a break I don't know no historically you know I'm the historic I'm the state historic preservation officer did you know that no I didn't our agency is in charge of all historic preserv TR to focus on and that's why I care if New Jersey gets title to this island it's ridiculous they're going to build a permanent Bridge from New Jersey to Ellis Island I know they'll do that first right out of the barrel that's very bad I mean Ellis Island is an island right millions and millions of immigrants Irving Berlin why does it make any difference who owns it it makes a big difference makes a big difference to all of those who thought they were born in New York their birth certificate say it makes a huge difference to the story and the history and the fabric of New York state does it make a financial difference I think there will be some Financial certainly if they build a permanent Bridge first of all that's that's a no no nationally preservationist nationally we wouldn't want a would we I want you to write to senator lenberg who wants to build a bridge we don't want a bridge don't want a bridge it's ridiculous uh who's going to argue for the state in the art you know well it'll be the Attorney General I don't know if he'll be there himself but our attorney general Dennis vodka who's doing a great job uh someone I'm going to try to be there for the for the arguments I want to hear them myself and and I'm hoping some of the justices listen to you this morning and and understand I'm sure they all gathered around the radio Clarence Thomas and all of them yeah I think so renquist and the rest of them Sandra day they're all still listens yeah I'm sure I'm sure they're all gathered you want in fact in fact I have it on Bernard Bernard just said in on my headphones right now that he happens to know that six of the Supreme Court Justices list right is that right now Bernie is that right if you have a message that you would like to try to get to any of these Supreme Court Justices feel free to speak directly to them now no I fell for that once young man and I'm not ping all right I admit I in their cars right exactly right they're on the way over there you know they're not in our robes yet so but listen can I say can I say one other thing we have about one minute okay I want to tell you about the pal luncheon the Police Athletic League luncheon that I was at this past week Joan Rivers was the master Mistress of ceremony she loves you don't do this Jo Rivers is a funny funny woman does she have a pean plant don't start this Barbara Bush received an award she is the most Charming witty the best role model I bet if you asked dearra how many women do we look to as we grow older she loves her husband she loves her country she's funny she's a grandmother and she's proud of it you know she has gray hair she's proud of it I mean I love this woman Barbara Bush yeah she's she's a great woman she was there at our table were the famous Mary Higgins Clark who thinks the world of you and her daughter Carol Clark those two nuts man talking about people who talk about they're you know what they're listening to they're listening to little sounds from Pluto now there's a hail Boer Mary Higgins Clark and her daughter I guarantee you the next time that somebody puts the straps on some Nikes and puts a purple shroud on them they are the first people on the ship absolutely hail bopping out of here Mar Higgin Clark will go down as one of the great mystery writers me you know it too no but Carol CLK Carol Clark got you new book fine Jill Brooke was at the table thinks the world of you Jill Brook CNN entertainment person you might want you might want to think twice about walking into the room with three guys jacked up on caffine thank you very much Mr C Commission on the morning pram 98.1 the peak WP CNN Radio news I'm David Hall President Clinton says he's going to bat for the global warming treaty know do the potty breaks and the bathroom breaks and everything's going good with them um we've talked to them I haven't personally but the negotiation team has talked to them them over the phone and they seem to be doing fine standoff began Tuesday police were chasing Armstrong following a murder when Armstrong's car rammed another automobile he broke into a nearby Home released two women who were there but then kept the children as hostages Sergeant goon how the MS are doing they're kind of fatigued right now they've been up you know for quite a long time um they're praying that this thing is over tonight they want to get it done with and they're holding up well though police say they're confident the standoff will end with the Children's Safe release the family of uh John Armstrong who is described as a career criminal only recently released from prison in fact believed he will not harm the children President Clinton is in Florida mixing a little official business with a lot more fundraising at one event yesterday President Clinton critic year for the beleaguered Democratic party coffers the Arlington National Cemetery plot soon to be surrendered by Democratic donor Larry Lawrence will likely remain vacant for quite some time according to an army spokesperson Kim Waltz who said it would be unfair to another family to have Lawrence exhumed and then put somebody else in while the grave and the notoriety over Lawrence's fabricated service record are all still so fresh Lawrence who gave some $10 million to the Democratic party