#201: Eric Petersen- KEVIN CAN F**K HIMSELF, SHREK, KIRSTIE

night time show the night time show night time show live from the Hollywood improv it's the nighttime show with us as always our headwriter Matt Walker I'm the voice of the nighttime show Mike black we have a very special guest star of Big Bang Theory Law and Order and Kevin on Kevin can [ __ ] himself right now on AMC Eric Peterson and now our host if rolls a 12 dexterity he can continue hosting the show for all eternity Steven Kramer Glickman yeah nice job Mike black very nice good to have you back uh proud to be here we're we're so excited this is so wonderful Eric uh thank you for being here man I'm so happy to be here Glickman very happy dude I gotta we got to talk about the show Kevin can [ __ ] himself is just holy [ __ ] um for for those of you who have not seen the show I'm just going to give a little briefness of of what it is um uh you play Kevin on the show the show feels like you're watching um King of Queens basically or like a a show like that CBS CBS sitcom it's written just like a CBS sitcom it has all the laugh tracks all the moments but then when the wife walks out of the room and and when like the the husband makes like a funny you know you know sitcom joke and she's like I'll go get the pizza rolls she walks into the kitchen the camera goes with her we it goes to single camera and it looks like Breaking Bad totally and her life is a [ __ ] nightmare and you get to see what it's like being the wife of this [ __ ] guy that like everyone thinks is so great and it's like it's like what Deborah's life was really like on everyone loves Raymond like it's just so [ __ ] brutal and she just wants to kill her husband or divorce him or get the [ __ ] out and and um and I mean immediately when you watch it you're like how has no one ever done this before it's genius it really is it I mean it makes sense that it's on AMC AMC is the only place that would take a chance and do something like it it is shocking I thought the same thing when I read it and when I I heard the initial idea I was like how has no one thought of this before because it does as soon as you hear it you're like of course of course we should be exploring that and and this is a great way to do it with the two like very familiar now for a sort of more cultured theater I mean a television audience like who knows I would say most people nowadays if you said multicam versus single cam a lot of non-industry people would know what that means because we've been conditioned over the years of like oh there was what multicam was and now we're in the like the Golden Age of television and we know what that feels like and so the combining of the two really is is very brilliant our our creator Valerie Armstrong she is kind of a cool story how the show came to be please please tell us in that she was uh not that she had no credits but she was a writer's assistant maybe two years ago I mean like really had had not it's not like she had a ton of stuff she had written on um Lodge uh 39 49 whatever that that was on AMC as well uh she was a writer assistant on that she wrote on uh SEAL Team Six one of the like CBS kind of procedurals for like one season but really did not have a ton of credits she was a part of AMC had like a writers room project sort of thing for up andc coming writers to pitch ideas she pitched this idea and they were like not only do we want to buy it but we're buying it to series like right now go make it like such a they were like of course this is brilliant so it was great and you know that I think that that sort of made the whole vibe on set because it was a big first thing for Valerie and because it was in a way sort of its own the first of its kind of this type of a show everybody felt like let's just all be cool and try to make a really smart thing and uh and we're all very very proud of it now so your wife that's on the show yes um uh she is one of the lead stars of shit's creek yes Annie Murphy Annie Murphy Emmy winner anore she won she won the Emmy literally the night before we started shooting wow no pressure for you the next day yeah so did she do any baller moves when she came in like smack you in the face well we wanted her to like bring the Emmy and like slam it but um no it was actually here's a funny story when we we shot the show in Boston because it takes place in Boston and we shoot we shoot a lot of it on the Sound Stage really because of covid the original idea was to do more of it in the community um but obviously for reasons that we shoot most of it on Sound Stage but we do shoot some exteriors uh out in and about you know Boston and the surrounding areas and also they a lot of the smaller bit parts were local Boston actors which I think they really wanted to have that flavor of Boston it's a big part of the show um so because we were shooting in Boston and most of us live in LA we all had to get to Boston and this was in uh shoot September of 2020 so this was like in the thick of the pandemic right and so most of our cast flew but I have a wife and two kids and we were kind of like I don't know that we really want to get on a plane right now so we rented an RV and drove from LA to Boston over two weeks wow spectacular oh my God and one of the things that we were going to do uh the was and Annie was like all about it is we were going to pick up Annie at the Canada Border because she lives in Toronto and so we were going to Niagara Falls and there's a thing called The Rainbow Bridge is the bridge from Canada to America and we're like we'll just pull the RV up to the edge of the Rainbow Bridge and you could just like walk across the border and that will take you to Boston and we were going to do that and that was the plan and then uh uh Dan Levy sort of rented out a castle for all the shits Creek Family for Emmy Knight and it was a good thing cuz they all one that night and it was very exting so she was like I can't take the RV trip CU we rented a castle and and we're like go do that that'll be fun and then they all won and it was great what's the weirdest thing you stopped at on your trip across the US um definitely uh a dinosaur Prince sort of like area in the middle of the like Navajo reservation in I think Utah is where we were we had just left dinosaur Prince like dinosaur tracks like in like At first I thought dinosaur SL Prince the artist now that would be great that I would like to dinosur Prince he was the dinosaur prince the prince of dinosaurs going to party like it's 1999 million years exactly there you go there you go um it was literally we were driving like on the highway and we I wanted to do this more but sadly I think that because we were on the interstates like you just don't see it as much as if you're on like Route 66 were Utah and it said like dinosaur tracks one mile and then we like saw it at the last second so we had to do a uturn in the tury like on the highway and we pulled up and there was literally a couple like little tents with some Navajo uh people there that were selling you know little arrowheads and jewelry and stuff and then there was like this guy who kind of came up from behind this tent he was like follow me and then we like walked out into this desert just a big huge open desert and right after you guys left they're like he doesn't work here and he like had a little water bottle that he would spray over like where the tracks were so you could see them you know like more prominently and they really looked really cool I mean it was like huge paw prints and stuff like that he's like here's a claw you can see I have to believe it's real I'd drive out just to see that yeah it was very cool very yeah cuz I've driven cross country and I think the weirdest place I ever stopped was in I think it was in Missouri mhm and it was the national greyhound racing Hall of Fame and Museum that's great uh and they had like a 20 foot Greyhound statue in front of the building I wish I had photos this is like pre cell phone camera there this is like late 9s but uh that was the strangest place in the US ever I was like what why is this a thing like why does this even exist I remember my parents taking to me and my brother to one in like Tennessee once when we were kids that was they had these huge dinosaurs that were they didn't even move they were just like you know structur like oh the ones they in peewee's big adventure yes kind of stuff right and they're like the huge dinosaurs they're just there they had speakers playing like but like they're not moving or anything and then they'd give you were on a little Jeep and they gave all the kids little tommy guns and you would just shoot at the dinosaurs oh wow that's all it was there was a thing I I I drove across country and there was a a thing called this it was called like an apple pie farm and it was this they grow pies where they had a giant Apple structure this big fake giant apple and then uh there was like a a hill all around it and then you could walk up to the apple and they would sell slices of apple pie or full apple pies at the apple pie structure but then the hill the little grassy Hill that was all around it was just um hundreds of rabbits so there were rabbits running all over the so it was very now were the children giv tommy guns to shoot the rabbit yes yes exactly it was really weird though you're walking around you're like a place I would be very interested in going I know it was very like Tim burtney it felt very were they like clean white rabbits or yeah they were like or of nature rabbits they were weird they were weird rabbits but they were big I remember there being a lot of big any flish Giants I think so oh wow I'm in that was a weird thing from when before the internet when we were all kids there were a lot of like travel destinations had a gigantic version of whatever you were there don't pass it by yeah yeah like ry's donuts I think one of the last of those in uh Canada in Montreal where my family's all from they they had a place called the Orange Julius and orange julius had a gigantic like 40 40 foot tall orange in Orange Julius was in every mall in the United States oh yeah so but it was like a giant orange that was the only people yeah we didn't have that here in the states Matt for our podcast we have a giant Steven ker Glickman here okay all right know the only thing the only time it got better was when the giant enormous thing whatever it was was the actual building sure like yeah you were inside of it there used to be a place on Melrose the hamburger that ate La that was shaped like a gigantic hamburger sure and it had like a cityscape next to it that it was chewing on sure and there was like the Brown Derby right and that was a hat actually a hat now all that stuff is primarily just for Batman villains to use I think you're right we should bring it back so um how what was the uh casting process like on on doing this uh uh it was it was pretty great it was um you know pilot season of 2020 so in Jan this was like January so the pandemic was just a whisper in the air of like oh something's happening in China people sick right yeah um and nobody knew anything was going to happen and it started like any other you know is a pilot season so I had uh just got a script from my agent manager for this uh new show called Kevin can [ __ ] himself and to play Kevin and I was like all right this is interesting let me see what this uh this is and I read it and I was like this is brilliant and I went in and sort of my first question for uh Valerie the Creator and uh Craig who's our showrunner is I was like I just want to make sure that what you're trying to do is not like totally skewer and hate on Multi mul cam sitcoms because I love multicam sitcoms I've actually done a fair amount of multicam work in my in my career and so like I I know some people really hate it and think it's the cheesiest like worst thing in the world for me I love it I sort of love the history of it I love the format of it um I recognize obviously that there are problems with it which is what I think our show is trying to point out um but I just wanted to make sure we weren't making a show that was like look at this dumb [ __ ] multicam all the dumb jokes they do and I think I think that we avoided that you know I think that we tried to make a really good strong multicam that you literally could kind of take out of our show and put on CBS and it would air for probably four or five seasons you know um and they and they said and Valerie was like absolutely I'm with you she's like I love multic cams as well I'm not trying to kill them I'm trying to sort of point out the flaws with them and then Explore More behind it and I was like all right if that's your plan then I'm 100% in so I had uh my first audition went well uh they wait wait can we just stop for a second what a [ __ ] badass move though to go into an audition and be like I just want to make sure that this is like up to the up to what right that's [ __ ] genius though I mean I think I I think I I worded it not in a like of the [ __ ] are you making here you know to make to kind of make them explain it a little bit to give you a better sense of because you could do it either way you could really lean into like a very sort of self-aware tongue-and-cheek like we're making a multicam and everything's big and Broad and and they weren't they didn't want to do that which I I felt good about um so I I I went to uh uh my studio and network test and and that went well and you know they narrow it down to a few guys uh then they called me and they basically were like uh they like you a lot uh they've released everybody else and I was like so does that mean I got it and they're like no not yet cuz they're still not totally sure on who they want to cast is Allison who's the wife character and she she is the lead of the show even though the title of the show is Kevin can [ __ ] himself it is really Annie show um and uh and so they weren't they hadn't cast Annie yet and so they were like we we love you but we just don't know if we can nail it down until we know who we who we're going to have as Allison and then a couple weeks later they they got Annie to sign on and then so we did a chemistry read and it went well and then off we went now so was she in second position with with your show because she was already on a show or no [ __ ] creek was done it was done it yeah they were just um they were just sort of looking at different people for the park wow wow yeah what a [ __ ] amazing thing yeah to get her right off of like a a big show yeah I mean it was and that was obviously before she had won the Emmy but I mean everybody was talking about shitz Creek at that point I think their finale had maybe aired maybe a couple weeks before that so I mean it really was like it sort of became a phenomenon right before it ended totally in the last season yeah it was like a show where it's like I think I'd heard the name and it had been on for like five or six years I'm like I like Eugene Levy I'll check it out sometime and then all of a sudden it was like it was everywhere and they won all the EMES for everything and then it was like oh by the way the show's over it's over yeah like it was crazy cuz it was on it was a Canadian show and it was on pop TV which a lot of people don't even have pop TV or they would get the app and then people were kind of talking about it like oh have you seen the show shits Creek it's great and then once it went to Netflix which was kind of like right at the beginning of the pandemic that's when everybody like oh this show is amazing the same thing happened with uh New Adventures of Old Christine I think is she won the Emmy for were after it was canceled yeah she won the Emmy after the show was already done crazy you know the cast of Corner Gas has just got their fingers cross we're next we're next who was on Corner Gas nobody oh a Canadian show wait Corner Gas though I've never seen Corner Gas but there's an actor on Corner Gas who's an older actor named Eric Peterson oh right is there that's he's an older Canadian actor now my last name is spelled Peter sun senen it's misspelled Peter Sun very often yeah and his last name is s o n okay so the union for a while didn't want to let me have my name because they were like well there's a different Eric Peterson I'm like it's spelled differently they're like it's kind of close and then they just sort of stopped bothering me about it yeah but it's funny if you look at my IMDb there are some overlaps of his credits on mine and my credits on his well it looks like your spelling one out yes I love it I love it um we're going to take a quick commercial break we'll be right back hey uh before we continue doing the show I we got to talk about uh the the equipment that we're using to make the show make an epic show that is uh it sounds like you know everyone is right here like we're all sitting together but we're not we've got a fantastic multirack recorder from Zoom um if you need multirack recordings that's the only company you should even be looking at um basically we had issues when we had to switch to doing things during a pandemic and we were we went from doing a show with people in person to people over the phone and zoom just made it a piece of cake yeah you bet Zoom corp.com is the website and uh there you know this is made it so that we could interview people in uh Nigeria New Zealand New Zealand um Guatemala um uh Austria Czech like the Czech the Czech Republic um when we were doing alling countries now yeah well no when we were doing all the interviews with the cast of uh 90day fiance we were talking to people you know in the Ukraine like we were doing all sorts of crazy stuff and then just the other day when we had uh John ree Davies on the show from New Zealand he was in New Zealand the whole time sounds like he sitting in the room with us yeah it truly is the mark of Excellence for podcasting Zoom live track L8 eight track mixer recorder the board for creators podcasting music and Beyond yeah it is a badass system and uh we're very lucky to be working with uh Zoom go check out Zoom corp.com that's zoom corp.com zoom you have to say it three times that's what people do and add ads right what is it stepen Zoom corp.com it's zoom corp.com we're talking about Zoom corp.com all right let's get back to the show hey uh we are back um uh got to I got to talk to Eric about something that is near and dear to my heart and um it's how we first met I know where you're going with this um I'm talking of course you had a meute we had a meat cute we really did we absolutely did um you're you you starred in Shrek the Musical uh on on Broadway and in the first national tour and in the LA cast of Shrek the Musical and I St in Shrek the Musical as the original in the Broadway workshops and readings yes and uh I'm I saw you do the show here in Los Angeles that's fantas God you were [ __ ] fantastic man so tell me tell me about you let's talk about Broadway let's let's do some Broadway chatting about about your about your Broadway career are they just harassed because they're like Stephen has no hair and Eric has a wonderful head of hair so we're going with the guy with hair hey hey hey possibly that's probably no no no no no I mean Eric's [ __ ] incred I mean you've done other stuff on Broadway too like tell us about your career where did you get started where are you originally from I'm originally from Chicago suburb of Chicago uh I was uh I got I started doing theater in high school never done it before that uh sort of fell into it I was always a Class Clown but didn't start doing any performing until freshman year of high school uh went to college at Bradley University in Peoria Illinois uh little small Al arts school uh I graduated I went to work uh at a place called The Barn Theater in Augusta Michigan which to do summer St theater it was great my plan was to do that summer in Michigan move out to LA because I wanted to do TV and film uh I enjoyed Broadway I was a big Broadway fan but I'll be honest my dream was to be on a sitcom like that's really where my brain was but this summer at the barn in Michigan I started dating a girl and I thought she was pretty great and I said to her at the end of the summer I was like like what are you doing at the end of the summer and she was like oh I'm moving to New York and I was like that's crazy I'm moving to New York too oh my God and I totally changed my whole life plan like in a conversation uh she is now my wife and we have two kids so this was this was the right call this was definitely the the move to make oh my God that's amazing yeah so I changed my plan and moved to New York uh with Lisa and my wife and we were in New York for about uh probably about four three four years before I got Shrek on Broadway um doing a lot of children's theater and you know off off Broadway Theater and Children's Theater tours and stuff like that and First National tours what children's theater tours did you do well I did a lot with a company called Theater Works USA of course Theater Works in yeah of course that's right my wife now works for them she does way she's like in charge of digital content and uh she's like growing the business here in California yeah so she like has a real job for them right now which is awesome yeah they're the ones who do they do like uh basically children's musical theater Productions all over the world they go like they're mostly based out of New York and then they go to schools all across the country and they have like six actors in a van that also are hired as stage managers who build the sets and costumes and you just drive around and hit two or three schools in a day and it's like really paying your dues but you can get your Equity card that way and it's a great great company I got I got uh cast as the Cowardly Lion in in uh their their version of the and I I couldn't do it I got I was doing I was under contract a terrible terrible terrible musical the St or a stoop on orch Street yeah one of the worst musicals ever written in history and I I could not get out of the contract which was a sequel to Fiddler on the Roof no yeah it was an an unauthorized sequel to Fiddler on the Roof it was the most embarrass we would go to small towns do the show and leave before the review would come out and it was early days of the internet so no one was Googling to see how the show was the great review you got in Chicago Chicago Chicago just Chicago suntime said Steven Kramer Glickman is loud and then uh but the best one my favorite one of all time was backstage West did a review back when that existed and it said um uh St on Orchard Street tries to pass off a moldy slab of ham as a Jewish delicacy this is worst God this is the the worst thing that has happened to Los Angeles since since the Rodney King Tri oh my God that's what it said in backstage West I mean you should print that and frame it and that's that's when that's when that's when we all met stand they were staying at a motel attached to a bowling alley in Koga Park Y where I was hosting an open mic at the bar at the bowling alley in Koga Park and then stepen wanted to start doing standup and I was like a year in and we became friends and then Mike was around so you guys would leave before the reviews came in yeah so you were following the frontier tonic salesman business model basically that's exactly it get out of town quick oh yeah people would be like this is the worst thing to happen since the you like don't even do a curtain call get the hell out oh yeah yeah we how did they know to bring tomatoes yeah yeah no one was calling the next town to tell them it was crazy anyways um so we we moved to New York uh and we uh started doing theater did theater work stuff um eventually uh I got the call to go i' had auditioned for Shrek probably around the same time that you I don't know if you auditioned for it or just offered but um uh for the reading and didn't get it but they liked me and uh kept me in mind and then when the show was already open on Broadway uh the guy that was playing Papa ogre and one of the Three Little Pigs uh his name was Jacob Ming Trent uh he uh hurt his knee and had to be out of the show for like 12 weeks and so they brought me and a couple other guys in to be a replacement I got the job um this is kind of a fun story when I went it was down to me and one other guy uh who's actually a friend of mine I won't say his name but uh we were both up for it they said to us they were like listen you both are great we really don't know who to pick go to the costume shop they're going to try the costumes on you guys and we just got to be honest whoever fits the costumes better we're going to give the job to because like it's just a 12we replacement now I had no Broadway credits at that point so this was a big deal to me like to get a Broadway credit was a big deal and so I went in and the costumes did not fit me Jacob is a bigger guy than me and uh a person who I owe so much to this guy named Brian buos who was the costume associate was there doing the fittings and he told we became very good friends later uh in life and later in the process and and he told me he was like you know the other guy actually fit the costumes a little better but you were a nicer person you were very nice to me and seemed really excited about the opportunity and so I told them that the costumes would work and we just did a bunch of adjustments sort of like on the fly to like make them fit for you oh my God so I thought that was really cool and so then I got brought into the show and I was uh got my Broadway debut and it was very exciting wow and then so that track though also was the Shrek understudy yeah but then the show also had a standby and some people might not know what a standby is in on Broadway when there's a really big role like Phantom and Phantom of the Opera or alphaba and wicked like these big huge vocally demanding roles a lot of times you'll have a standby which is is this weird contract where you're paid a principal contract rate so you're you're paid like your the star of the show you have your own dressing room but you're not in the show in any way unless the star is out so you are sort of the first option but as opposed to being an understudy who's in The Ensemble of the show and then steps up to the the lead role okay it's a very odd experience because eventually I became the standby when Brian Darcy James left the show uh Ben Crawford who was the standby became Shrek and I became the standby and when you're in standby you literally go to the theater every night you listen to the show you have to be there until like you're not getting paid no you're getting paid you're getting paid handsomely but it's odd to be at the theater and not a part of it you really are not a part of it at all and um you basically stay there until like right before Curtain Call and then they're like all right you can go home and you just listen to the show every night it's just like make sure that he doesn't break his ankle basically if like in the First Act he twisted his ankle and they had to stop the show they would say all right and then I would go into makeup and then they would start the show again um it's sort of like being a relief pitcher where you're just there just in case they need to call you in in yeah just in case uh and so then I became the standby ended up getting to go on a couple of times as Shrek um I have a good story for that as well I should I guess that's Point podcast story um basically uh when Brian left the show and I was saying how Ben became Shrek and then I was becoming the standby they also in that same big meeting announced that we were going to be closing in like 10 or 11 weeks so it's like not the next week but like we were nearing the end of the run and I was pretty convinced that Ben was not going to miss at all in the show because you know it was a big deal for him to be becoming Shrek and there was only you know 11 weeks left and so I had my Puttin rehearsal that first Friday of his first week and a Puttin rehearsal is where you do a rehearsal in the afternoon with most of the Ensemble some of the Stars may come it sort of is up to them and you do the show with lights you're in costume you have props but everybody else in the show is just in Street clo it they and they're all very pissed off to be there usually cuz it's like yeah their day not their day off but they're they don't want to be there when they're not performing and it's really just to help the person who's going into the show so they can actually feel what it's like with the lights and the costumes uh and so when I did my Puttin rehearsal like I had a guy a guy playing Princess Fiona for you know like the dance happed was playing Princess Fiona who was playing Fiona by that at that point uh that was still Sutton still did it the whole time um and so I did this Puttin rehearsal and it went great and I felt really awesome about it and I came home and when I went to go into my apartment the door was like pad locked and I was like or not pad locked but like the main lock was on and I was like babe what to my wife I was like what can you let me in like what's going on and she eventually unlocks the door and she's uh got a video camera and she's filming me and I'm thinking she just wants to know how great I was at the Pud in rehearsal and so she's like how'd it go and I was like a babe I crushed it I was awesome it was so good I felt so proud of myself I was really happy with it everybody was really complimentary I feel really good she was like awesome but she was still filming me and I was like why are you filming me and she said look in the bathroom and I was like all right I went in the bathroom there were some clothes hanging up and I was like you did the laundry thank you very much that's awesome thank you for doing that she's like look at the sink and on the sink was three positive pregnancy tests and so we found out that night that was for my daughter my first kid uh we found out that night that we were going to be parents and it was this was good this was something we wanted we were you know wanting to do and so it was like a super exciting night and so we're like so much good news so much good news and so like I we stayed up all night and we're thinking what if it's a boy what if it's a girl oh my God and your whole life just changes and and then probably only got like two hours of sleep and then at like 8 in the morning the next day on that Saturday the stage manager called me and she's like Ben is throwing up and sick and you're on a Shrek for both shows today and I was like [ __ ] [ __ ] woo okay so in the matter of 24 hours I like found out I was going to be a dad start in a Broadway show it was spectacular on two hours of sleep on two hours of sleep now I will say it went really well and a lot of people were in the cast were like oh my God you're so like focused and and centered and and I was like I couldn't tell them because you don't tell people yeah like right away you wait till you know a few months and so I just what I think though is that because half of my brain was like I'm going to be a dad like I it didn't allow me to freak out about like yeah holy [ __ ] you're playing Shrek on Broadway um so yeah that was that's my story of of when I when I actually play yes when the most incredible story and then I got cast as Shrek on the first national tour which ended here in Los Angeles and then I ran into Steven yeah I got to come to the do you remember what was that uh uh uh it's right next to the Pantagis or no it's across the street uh iron and Stone Fire and Ice what is that bar called yeah yeah the one next to the pant ages is the Frolic room yeah so not that one directly across the street from it anyways yeah that's where we met yeah we met we met there and um I yeah I was like totally blown away that was just Stephen did you cosplay a Shrek when you went I did not I did not cosplay I did wear a terrible outfit though it was a green I believe you I've seen how you a green denim suit so yeah it was not nobody like Mr green jeans yeah like Mr Green jeans it was not okay I regret that that suit greatly did and that one didn't end you up in Okay magazine for worst dressed super embarrassing you have been worst dressed in Okay magazine that's true okay hang on a second Let's Stay Stay Focus stay focused on the man all right sorry I get it's okay I get thr there's so many things to make fun of you I just you can make fun of me a different day U you can make fun of it's just fun that even when other people tell stories we still find way to turn it on you now were you um were you being directed by Jason was Jason Moore directing time uh Jason was directing uh the tour is a little interesting in that uh uh Rob Ashford uh was also co-directing so we had kind of an interesting situation with that because they uh Jason would come in for a few days and kind of direct and then he would go away and Rob would come in and direct for a few days and they would kind of be like undoing each other's stuff and we were like who are we who are we listening to like who's who's actually the boss here um but we ended up finding it I I was really proud of the tour production because I feel like we really um you know the whole cast was really tight it was a really great group of truly good people um who were really kind of looking out for each other and we had we had such a good time and had Amy Garcia on Haven Burton was playing oh my God Haven Burton's the greatest yes she was great oh I love them um David vaugh was playing far quad Alan mango Jr was playing Donkey it was great it was a spectacular Christmas did um how musically did anything change from the Broadway show to the tour or um was that about the same it was pretty much the same we I mean one of the big things is we had this dragon in the tour that was so much better than the one on Broadway the the Dragon song it was a new song and a new puppet the dragon on Broadway was this like 30 foot tall thing on like rolling casters that was essentially if it was a dragon it was just from the neck up right just the neck up and then this huge head that a person would sit inside of and control the mouth and the eyes and stuff like that it fell over a couple times looked bad because it just kind of like rolled around the stage move its head it was very very odd and then for the tour they it was a full [ __ ] Dragon it was like head to tail Wings it took five people to Puppeteer it um like three people in the middle one guy in the front doing the mouth and the eyes another person on the back people on the wings it was spectacular and I mean when we rehearsed with that Dragon because we were you know a tour they had to rent out a Broadway Theater to rehearse it because it didn't fit in new 42nd Street Studios because it's it was so big it was very very impressive when you go on a national tour for a musical like that uh I want to ask you numbers but is the money equivalent better or worse than when you're doing it on Broadway um it's about the same I think it's about the same it's uh you know obviously the pay is pretty there there's much more um like lad levels on Broadway I feel like there's like a a tier of people that are probably making about this much yeah and then you have you know you have people like a Sutton Foster or movie stars coming a couple tonies or whatever you know who have a couple tonies they're making a certain level and then you have like the movie stars doing they make a certain level but it is it's pretty democratized and it so yeah the money on a tour is about the same and in actuality you end up making more money because you have your PDM yeah and you not you're not paying New York rent so if you can if you can drop your apartment and go on T her you can save a lot more spectacular wow oh my God yeah you can save up to try to get that Adena Menzel money that's right that's right that's right a Delta now how have you felt as far as like being in La I was told something by the by the by the head of casting at Universal uh when I when I got let go from Shrek and came out here yeah um I was brought into her office for a meeting and she said um hey congratulations on starring in Shrek the Musical I heard you were amazing um what's next for you and I went actually what really happened was is I did did the Broadway workshops and the readings and then I was let go right before it opened and then I uh I you know I I moved back out here and she said um well you should know uh no one cares she was like whatever we have picked up that knowledge about Broadway and things and whatever is whatever we know so don't correct anybody ever again number one like if someone gives you a credit just take the credit go number one number two um she was like in LA we only know about Broadway because we have to yeah like we're most of us don't know anything about what's really going on out there they couldn't name anybody yeah so so just you know you know you know it's like it's like we have to know what we have to know and that's about it they know like who maybe gets nominated for a Tony yeah but beyond that not much yeah it is funny cuz have you noticed that out here um yeah a little bit I mean even even in uh you know in your intro to me of saying like he starred as Shrek on Broadway for two shows I did yes but like and then I definitely I did it for a full year on tour but like when people say that I sometimes I feel very conflicted of like should I I wasn't I didn't like I played Shrek for two performances on Broadway but I wasn't like the guy the whole time on Broadway but then I did so it's very muddy so when people legal I think it would pass the way people say it I usually like you said I just I try not to correct them and I it's two more than stevenh did oh that's that's C [ __ ] I swear to God I love knowing that you've been waiting behind the grassy no with that this whole time ready the motorade is com along now the president is waving oh my God Something's Happened God damn that was pretty good you're welcome Stephen it's what it's like to be friends with comedians all the time just what happens we're just brutal I love that yeah um have you have you noticed like you know like when it comes to musical theater in Los Angeles any well I or you going to do a Broadway movie musical is that going to happen I would love to my God I feel it's actually funny feel like whenever they are doing musicals in you know either TV or film form I'm always telling my agents I'm like get me in for this like this is in my wheelhouse they're always like oh yeah it's it's tough It's real tough they're like just looking at movie stars and I'm like okay whatever um but yeah I feel like I don't know I feel like like you said that they people that are in LA Casting are aware of Broadway enough I will say it's been helpful in that my Broadway credits you know my two probably biggest credits are sh and School of Rock which both are films so it's like helpful to people to be like I can say oh I played the Jack Black role in School of Rock on Broadway and people know what that is it's you don't have to be like it was an adaptation of an old T what I don't know what that you know it was three ghosts yeah so it's it's been helpful in that way because my credits are sort of like they they just understand them better I think do you think that the internet has uh they've made Shrek into a much bigger thing than I ever thought it was supposed to be right and that like the internet is obsessed with Shrek in a way that doesn't make a lot of sense in like the whole thing with Smashmouth and whatever and it's like just become a meme that Shrek is like a thing do you think that has like kept that musical touring in areas where might it might not otherwise even exist or um I don't know I think that I actually think that the musical is a a good musical I think it's a good Standalone musical which I think that's why but I it is odd the way that the internet loves Shrek and I I always can't totally tell if it is a true love of Shrek or if it is a like look at this [ __ ] movie let's all just like point at it but I don't know if it's a good pointing but I just saw the other day somebody sent me Supreme the like Street Wear brand is partnering with Shrek right now and they have it says supreme but the S is the Shrek the Shrek you search it are you Ser came out a couple days ago Supreme has doing a collaboration with Shrek and so they have new like supreme but with the green because like the two things they' done that with are Shrek and be movie yeah are ones that like I'm like I don't understand I don't get it but it's it's a thing and I'm happy for everyone involved because they're still getting paychecks I think it's because I think it's because they weren't Disney I think because I think that does help yeah yeah they Texs everything and these movies are just like internet go for it sure also also like they would show Shrek and be movie on television sure because they would never do that with Disney animated movies before you know Disney plus and I think that the age that kids were when Shrek came out was that formidable like four five six seven years old and now those kids are the Tik Tock kids and they're you know that are oh my God and all that yeah it's kind of you're watching kind of the birth of their sense of irony as time goes on totally that's kind of cool yeah um I wanted to ask uh you mentioned School of Rock and Shrek of course they both were such ingrained performances uh in in film sure how much of that did they want you to Echo and how much of it was did they you get wiggle room I guess um they've always been every director that I've worked with in that sort of capacity because another one that I did I did um I played Buddy the elf in elf so that's another one that is like people like totally think of Will farell and you're like so you so my Approach has always been and it seems to have worked you have to give the audience something from that performance that they recognize that they feel comfortable with some actors say [ __ ] that I'm doing my own thing completely right I'm against that I feel like an audience when they're coming to a known property they are willing to see your interpretation of it but if you completely wreck or put to the side what they loved which why they bought the ticket they're only going to be angry at you so it's not like you have to do a copycat performance but like you have to do either like one or two classic lines with the same kind of cadence that it was said in the movie so that the audience just feels like yes he gets it and then they're willing to let you do your own thing with other moments but if you don't give them something to like latch on to they just get mad at you so if you do Terminator the musical you'll say I'll be back I think you have to I mean it would be be yeah it would be the whole I will return shortly and sudden Foster would of course play u sarak course of course yeah we I mean that's the big 11 o'cl number OB I'll be back I'll be back don't you worry now I really want to see terminated the musical and there's like the guys with the thumb as they're like going under the water that's a whole a whole chorus guys sinking into the lava you you you can have the other Terminator the uh the the the the T1000 just be like anything you can do I can do better I can be anyone better than you I feel like he's a big tap dancer as well yeah oh absolutely with all the metal big tap dancer top hat and Cane numbers the morphs out of his hand holy [ __ ] we need to copyright this immediately this is the greatest idea yeah [ __ ] we got to make this happen um do you have are there are there musical roles that you haven't done wait you know what before we get to that we need to play a commercial Ching ding ding Hey Matt before we continue doing the show we got to talk about what we're talking into these Sennheiser microphones are fantastic yeah they are literally topof thee line the best company in the world when it comes to microphones headphones audio equipment like this I mean it's just so damn good if you want to sound good talking into something get yourself some Sennheiser microphones yeah it makes you sound epic Mike black uh say something Epic face the final frontier These Are the Voyages if I say any more lawyers will get involved we have to exactly but I said it clearly and you can hear it clearly I can hear it it sounds perfect um hey uh go and uh go check out Sennheiser if you are looking for audio equipment uh you're looking for a great microphone this is the one to use Mike uh Matt what is what's this one called that we're using uh this is the md42 oh it's perfect it's absolutely perfect find them at sennheiser.com you bet all right let's get back to the show hey um all right other musicals that you would like to do that you haven't done yet is there are there specific roles anything that uh because you know people ask that I'm sure as an actor you get this a lot where people go what's something that you haven't got you want to be in a TV show that you have you could be on any show and you're that's not how this business works we don't decide the future of our career be on any could be don't have these decision but when it comes to musical theater there are like dream roles sure um I it's funny I it's funny the the guy that is playing the Phantom of the Opera right now is is Ben Crawford who I was talking about who became Shrek and then I became his standby God so I don't want Ben to think that I'm just trying to take his jobs left right but I would love to play The Phantom and Phantom of the Opera I think just because that was like the first musical that I ever really loved and like I remember going to the Carol stream public library and like renting the twois you know Phantom of the Opera soundtrack and and I would bring it back at the end of two weeks and i' be like does anybody need the Phantom soundtrack and they're like no Eric and you can take it again I was like yes and then I'd like re recheck it out for another two you're good theater nerd absolutely you're fine there's nobody else in this town who RS any of these if you looked around recently at this you're in the suburbs of Chicago um but no that's one and then the other answer that I always give and it sounds a little cliche and I I didn't come up with it but it is true in that I think at this point in my career the thing that is most exciting or would be most exciting to go back to Broadway to do would be an original role in something that has not been done yet so sure that's a vague answer non- answer but like I think that would be the the next thing that I would love to do is to create an original role so Terminator inter Terminator the musical exactly exactly yours to create that's it we got them all right awesome I love that yeah um when it came to coming up to LA and getting into acting uh one of the first things that I saw you in was the kiry television show with Kirsty Aly yeah uh from from the cheers is the way I and from Star trekar bring it back bring it back to Star Tre I always have a Star Trek reference on sure he has a shirt right now that is there you go my fangi live long and profit shirt yeah that I had made you had that shirt made especially made you can buy them on our website until we get a cease and assist oh wow I didn't know that are you serious it's a great looking shirt where's your mask do you have the mask too uh well I've got my my La treky mask that I made he has a Trey yeah you can buy that too just go to thre uh what thread.com the nighttime show.com there's a link there you go there you go okay uh so uh Kirsty yeah Star Trek um no gu kir Kirsty Al yeah what the [ __ ] how was that you know it was great uh uh that was a a huge moment for me in my career in that like as I told you I always wanted to do a sitcom I really wanted to be on a sitcom and this was a series regular on a sitcom that went a full season so like this was a a major Milestone like you know notch in my belt of like this was my dream all along it the experience of making the show was brilliant uh it was uh Kirsty uh the show the premise of it was she was like a big Broadway star who had given up her child for adoption because her career was just about to take off and now her SCH slubby son sort of comes back into her life as like a grown man but like his adoptive parents have recently pass and he's trying to like reconnect with her okay and um and she lives this big fancy life and he's just like a joeo and so uh Kirsty played my mom I played her son uh and then Michael Richards of you know Seinfeld Fame played her driver and Ria Pearlman of Cheers Fame played her uh assistant so it was the three of them and me and I mean it was really cool because I mean it was on billboards and 17 emys right there in that I mean this was so great their the Billboards for the show literally said they had a big long couch and then they had uh Ria Christy and Michael all on one side of the couch all sort of huddled together and looking at the other side of the couch and I was at the other side of the couch with a big gulp like sipping it just looking all Dopey and and then on it it said three comedy Legends and Eric wow and what's so great is that that my character name was not Eric on the show they literally they didn't put my last name it was just three comedy Legends and Eric and that was that's what the campaign was and I loved it I thought it was so funny and so great and you know the experience of working with them and we had you know the guest star we did 12 episodes but like the guest stars we brought in every week it was like Jason Alexander Christen chenowith John Travolta George Went horis leechman I mean every week how did that show not succeed um you know what it was is that TV land at the time they were still doing their they had like the ex's and uh um uh Cedric the Entertainer had a show I can't remember what that one was called but they were do and um uh what was the one with Betty White uh hoteland so like they had all these multicam and the basically their idea was old sitcom Stars you love give them a new sitcom and then we did our season it kind of fit right in with there and then like at the end of our season as a brand TV Land was like we're not going to do that anymore we're gonna and actually Sutton Foster show younger is sort of like what they were like we're going to do single camera more uh dramatic stuff so it was really just format changing they just were like you know yeah but yeah but it as an experience it was spectacular well I'm going to start the Twitter campaign to save the Kirsty alley show bring back Kirsty reboot it so was this Michael Richards prior to no no no this is after this is like this about 10 years after so crap this is after the Laugh Factory and everything yeah how did that how would they do that well here's tell it was you're getting them at a a discount yes here's what I'll keep paying them to be on the show here's what I'll say about Michael obviously what he said in that rant by the way yes I'm the person that called Michael and banned him from The Comedy Store that was my job was to call him and B you also to call Joe Rogan to ban him from the super well for me I bet he took that one uh yeah uh but but like that like I was trying to time it out I was like wait that happened before I was I did Shrek so how is it possible you're like holy [ __ ] so as I was saying what Michael said was horrendous and hateful and terrible crazy um what I will say is that Michael Richards is the oddest human I've ever met but also comedically brilliant so even when you would just try to say to him like hey Michael how's your weekend he would sort of be like he he couldn't look you like he couldn't even square up to you he sort of had to get outside of like a squared up position physically and you'd be like hey man how's your weekend andd be like weekend do how do the week do they end do the Weeks end they kind of go don't they and I'm like all right cool bro like like he just his brain is always thinking so outside of the box of what most people collectively accept as reality sure and so while I am in no way you know oh yeah no no like letting him off the hook I think he is a a super interesting guy who's always trying to push envelopes and working with him was great because he was he really tried to like look out for me and and give me advice and like say this is what you want to do in your career and look out for and stuff and you know but also seeing him uh you know while he was doing the show I remember this is kind of a sad story about him is that the first uh in the pilot there was a moment where he his character had to light a cigarette right just little thing but you can't light a cigarette on TV you can like have a cigarette but you can't show lighting of a cigarette on TV and he it was just a little tiny bit and he went to light the cigarette and like on one take it it actually lit cuz he kind of literally not a big deal and it's it's film like it's it's not the end of the world right and he was so upset he was like I'm so s I'm I'm really sorry I I I know you told me not to do it he was like a broken man you know and it was it was really hard to see because you could see that like he had this comedic thought process going on but he was also totally aware of what everyone was thinking about him all the time and so as a as a person it was it was Heavy to sort of be next to that and seeing that um there one more Michael Story please he we we had to do this thing uh and it was my first big show so I didn't know and I guess this happens but like we were in New York for the premiere and we had to go to a couple lunch with like you know people from Johnson and Johnson like all the ad Executives and you just whine and Dy them and stuff and we were sitting at this lunch and somebody's talking to us and some ad executive he's like so what's it like when you're like doing a show and like people are just like talking and stuff and like has anybody ever just like interrupted you while you're were doing a show and he was not trying to lead Michael there he really was just genuinely asking like has anybody ever interrupted your show and like like and Michael just went yeah yeah and you could tell and then the guy kind of put together like what he was referencing and he was like oh I'm I'm I didn't mean and he was like no it's okay it's okay but it was extremely awkward wowow that is [ __ ] but the experience of doing Kirsty was wonderful I love it she what was she like you know Kirsty is I always say that she what you see on TV is her at an 11 but in life she's at like a seven so she's the same person she is that sort of big broad brassy kind of personality um and it just she knows how to sort of turn turn it up for TV but what you see on TV is she has a big personality I think we all knew that when she gave that Emmy speech don't remember her Emy so she gave one of the greatest Emmy speeches she goes up wins the Emmy for cheers uh gets on stage and she was married to Parker Stevenson at the time I want to say yeah and she like said like and I also want to thank Parker for giving me the big one or giving me the hard one all these years it was like give me the high hard one might have been the FR she like at the end she just basically talked about basically getting railed so it was it was very entertaining yeah I was I don't know 12 or something at the time and this is the greatest thing I've ever seen you know love that I love that yeah um what uh before we wrap up we want I just want to ask like coming up next what is next for you what do you uh what's the plan well we are uh obviously fingers crossed for season two of Kevin K [ __ ] himself everybody feels good about it the show sort of ended with a big Cliffhanger so I I feel uh confident that AMC will pick us up but we have not heard yet so hopefully you know that will happen soon um I also uh I'm starting to do voiceover stuff uh yeah you did Madagascar right yeah that's what I've been doing uh and that's still going so I I'm recording on that almost almost every week which is super fun so um yeah that's that's basically what I'm working on what what voice what are you doing for that one uh so I'm on this show called Madagascar little wild which is on Hulu and peacock it is a prequel to The DreamWorks Madagascar film so those movies with Chris Rock are there like 75 Madagascar think now I think I think there's three but they did they did a lot of them um and this show then well then they did the what's it called penguin the spin-off spinoff King Julian is one like as a franchise I'm like there like as a franchise they've done very well Land Before Time was where they just made 17 sequels but Madagascar there's just like a bunch of they're like let's make them have a movie and they get a movie to I mean you're in great company Sasha Baron Cohen was um uh King uh right the the the King Julian King Julian yeah I think so yeah um and so this show is about those animals but when they're kids so they're the the animals are voiced by kid actors and then I play a pigeon named Anthony who's from Long Island who basically flies in each day to the Central Park Zoo where the kids are all at and I basically say like hey there's a firet truck over on Fifth Avenue you guys got to check it out and then they we all sort of go over to Fifth Avenue and look at the fir truck and something happens and then one of the kids will you know one of the animals will feel bad about themselves because they weren't included or something I'll be like come on stretch you got to just be proud of yourself your friends love you for who you are you're going to be fine and then they say yeah and then they sing a song and they go back and go to sleep and that's each episode but it's super fun uh I I've been they've been writing really great stuff for me my character gets to sing in some episodes that are going to be coming up soon hell yeah so uh it's been I've really really uh this is very fitting cuz Steph played a pigeon like one time and now you're playing a pigeon in an ongoing successful which is swear p in St this is so shitty but I did just get nominated for an Emmy for that oh look at that yeah come on I got Pig I got I got nominated for a Daytime Emmy for best performer in a preschool uh production I I lost crap to uh to uh Luke Skywalker to Mark Hamill what did he he did a voice on uh Elena of avalor which is a Disney Jor show yeah well if you're going to lose someone yeah I felt okay so Emmy nominated Eric Peterson this is true now it's now it's Emmy nominated that's that's that's the new title I guess yeah you were so good in stor though oh you stop that right now but it's true it is true you were spectacular my kids and I have watched it many many times it's that business is so weird because like it's an anime movie st's made like $275 million like to me I'm like that's a huge success and they're just like animated Nah if you didn't get to half billion we're not making another one I was like how is that crazy like how are the numbers so big for those animated movies I think it's because it cost so much to make them and you know four or five years to make them and that's a lot of money to make it so you're not yeah yeah yeah stepen wasn't nominated for an Emmy the McDonald's Canada did do a pigeon to Happy Meal so there you go that's true how is your McDonald's bathroom going real question you know what it's almost complete okay the only thing I'm waiting for right now is I want the ray Croc plaque that goes in every McDonald's I want that big bronze can I can I suggest something yes please anything I feel like you should put a mirror above the the toilet so that when men are standing and peeing The Mirror Has a employee of the month and then so they see their face in the employee of the month while they're peeing really okay you know like you get those things like a New Jersey like yeah like that that's a that's a good idea I just picked up a McDonald sign uh that goes above the sink that's huge I mean it's 6 feet long and it's a big thick thick plastic it just says McDonald's with the from from the front of one of the stores when I somebody said they sell chicken nugget hand soap Yes chicken nugget has to happen I got to do that but I think you should get a chef Speedy which was the old original mascot pre Ronald McDonald that they still have the old McDonald's and Downey the remaining wow the sixth McDonald's ever built this the one I used to go to as a kid but um the one on Sunset was oh back in 1947 when you were a kid well the funny thing is that McDonald's so go down to the store McDonald's it still lists 500 million Burger sold or whatever it was like like a number that at the time was astonishing and now it's just like B bill or whatever but yeah yeah because that was the sixth McDonald's ever built the McDonald's on Sunset had the Speedy logo up until about like eight years ago they still have the sign there in Downey like it's Chef speedy love McDonald's like do you actually my mom worked at McDonald's for most of my childhood so um I I wanted to do the guest bathroom in my place as like theme it for a restaurant because I just thought that'd be funny and weird and so I was either going to go Taco Bell I found a Taco Bell giant like sign that was I mean like you know 3 feet by 4 feet [ __ ] massive uh lights up the whole bit and it was like aund maybe 120 bucks or something like this from like a burnt down Taco Bell and then the same guy also had the the the light up uh M from the front of a McDonald's and Englewood and he was like yeah I'll sell this to you for like hundred bucks and I was like done I'll do that and then I paint got got the room perfect red bright red you know the sealing everything and then uh and then the piece the resistance was uh the the McDonald's that my mom worked at when I was growing up I reached out to them and I was like look I'm doing a [ __ ] McDonald's bathroom my mom worked there for a million years me do you have anything weird any statue any you know like an old um drive-through sign anything that I could put in the thing and they were like um you know weirdly enough in 19 it was like 87 somewhere around there um McDonald's sent us a Ronald McDonald head for the helium tank they go the day that we got it uh when it arrived was the same day they banned helium balloons to be given out McDonald's so it went back in the box and went into a closet and they go I think we still have it if you want it never been touched never been used and they if you want it yeah so that's sitting on my counter did you have to pay for it or did they just give they just gave it you should make that into a hand soap dispenser yeah I mean what I really want to happen if I could have one wish for you in in life it would be that you could get one of those Ronald McDonald sitting on the bench statues s next to next to the toilet yeah oh that's the dream I love I love with the legs crossed yeah yeah I love the big weird stuff I do have a a a big um Shrek and Donkey in my kitchen I got a big statue of the two of them you've got the 4 foot tall pigeon to or five T I have a 5 foot tall pigeon to in my living room I have a silver cow in my kitchen cow and then uh but the the thing that I'm currently building with the help I'm going to say this on the podcast uh with the help of Chris Bartlett uh from the Mandalorian is working with me on it right now is a John Wick style weapons cabinet uh with with a full cache of guns that are all fake they're all fake guns but like Nerf guns or like looking like real they look like real guns and Samurai SW and all sorts of things so when the police get called to your house at some point for the McDonald's incident that happen in your bathroom you're getting shot because they're going to see the weapon cash no no the weapon cash is sealed into the wall there's a it's all done to look like but how are they going to know that no they're not going to be able to you got to put those little orange tips reaching we should cut this out of the show probably the one edit from the show don't tell people that I have a secret weapon of fake weapons weap cash of fake weapons maybe maybe a bad choice um too late anyways um where can people get you I I can talk to you all day Peterson sure Peterson where where can people where can people get you on the internet uh you can uh follow me on Instagram Eric Pete e r i c PE te uh you can follow me on Twitter at Eric Peterson 44 and you can follow my fashion in to Instagram which isthe portly gentleman all one wait oh what thee portly gentleman I'm uh a big uh fashion guy I love clothes I love uh buying clothes putting clothes on myself and other people get some stuff for the big and tall gentleman that is sort of the idea I do you have anything that would fit me uh I'm not selling clothes I'm more like showing outfits that I like to wear nice the idea is eventually with it I want to get to a place where I'm sort of doing like videos where I'm explaining like why does this outfit work why does this outfit not work and trying to show that guys who are not model skinny can still dress very cool and it also doesn't have to be from places like you know Armani and Gucci you can go to Old Navy and Target and get stuff that looks cool and it's just about putting the right things together and how to do that and so I like to show the guys who are model skinny don't have to dress cool they can wear fake Star Trek shirts that's right that's right there's a place for everybody I like the shirt that you're wearing right now where'd you get this from uh this is from a company called sheen sheen oh I've heard of that people on Tik Tok keep talking about people TI Tok yes yes uh it's mostly girls who are into it now I think it's a Chinese brand it's all extremely cheap I think this shirt was probably $5 um and it's uhal a little Floral Pattern uh it's the I like I've just recently started ordering from them but they have good stuff it's like cheap quality stuff but uh but you but inexpensive looks good enough for that yeah looks cool and you've got the cool hat I do it this hat I actually got uh at a Housing Works which is a uh thrift store in New York City and it is a Barney's hat so it's actually a very expensive hat at one point uh but I got it for like $5 I love everything about everything about you I love everything about you I just want I I I I love the whole thing everything that's happening here thanks man we're going to have to do something together besides the podcast I would adore That Guys and Dolls that's what I say yes something like that all right you are awesome Mike black where can people find you on the internet uh all social media at Mike black is back yes Mike black is back you go lot of oh no I changed it because it was Mike black attack and I was started getting a lot of the wrong kind of fans and I was like oh this is not yeah not what aing forjust it's the wrong time in the world for that to be I was like um what about you Mr WKA where can people find you uh links to everything at funnym mat.com or Stephen you can send me a message at mattw Walkers sucks.com yes you do suck and people do do that they send horrible oh I got some more things to put on there too oh God you can always get me at Steven 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