PKA Talk About Kevin Costner's New Movie HORIZON

[Music] I think we're live anyway we're gonna start the show like this every week I uh I watched that new Kevin Coster movie Horizon oh the threeh hour [ __ ] epic it's onor Plex um it it is it is hard to get through uh I I probably took me three or four times um going back to it to get all the way through it because I just kept getting annoyed it's I think there are four M stories maybe five there might be five separate stories you know with there's um there's a um a c um a wagon train a wagon trail of there there's that group of people Luke Wilson is actually like the boss of that he's he's fine like all the acting was fine or whatever and then Kevin cner he's on his own little journey he's doing his thing and there's a group of Outlaw brothers and there's several other little Tales there's some Indian hunters and then there's some some bad Indians that killed some people and uh there's like a widow a widow and her daughter at this Army station and I thought three hours was going to be long but it wasn't nearly long enough I know there's a part two to this thing and there might even be a part three part two comes out this fall uh and I know they were hoping by releasing it to DVD or not DVD to streaming streaming um that it would drive up some interest in the sequel you know the continuation of this story but I'm gonna tell you there's so many different stories it felt like I watched three episodes of Game of Thrones and like nothing happened like like Kevin Cosner's character I think he gets like three scenes or something like that and and and they skipped forward so fast in time that I've never seen him have a conversation with another character really I don't think I don't know anything about him as a man like I have a theory about what happened my theory is Kevin has been on television for the last what 10 years eight years or something like that and he had an idea that requires the time a TV show has to Universe build and he's trying to put that in movie format so you take something like Yellowstone what do they do 10 hours a year something like that 15 hour 18 hours a year I don't know and uh but you can TV nowadays can develop a huge Universe like Game of Thrones did you know where you learn all these people in all these different parts and you start studying maps to understand how they're moving but a 90 minute movie can't do that it's basically just a long episode I I don't know if there was some production issue like that where maybe he wanted a t a TV deal I know he spent TV better that's my theory I know he spent like 2530 million of his own money on this project and so it tanking is a problem for him finan I'm I'm I'm not like he's going to go to the PO house or anything but that was his money that's that's going down the drain and it just felt like it would have been an okay TV show I guess but even what they had I felt like it reminded me a little bit of how I hated Dune 2 how it felt like there were big chunks of the movie missing and information wasn't being given to me and I was never interested in any of the characters or cared about them because it's like oh yeah I remember you from 50 minutes ago when you had three minutes of screen time you seemed nice oh I know that actor oh come back don't walk off the screen no come back oh we're going to go look at the Indians for a while and Rec captions okay it it wasn't compelling it wasn't interesting um I didn't care I I just didn't like it and the worst part this is like insult to injury at the end they show like a five minute action Montage of things to come in the next movie and it felt like it smelt of desperation it felt like they got to the end they're like hey people are kind of complaining that there was only like a couple of good action scenes show him show him what's to come there's like a scene where Kevin Coster kicks a guy and the guy bounces off a wall and when he does Kevin punches him decks him and then and then it's like Kevin riding a horse and shooting a rifle and then it's some guys on a wagon shooting and then it's Indian shooting and it's like they made a five minute shoot him up montage and they're they're acting like that's the next movie and I don't believe him I don't believe him I think we just saw all the action in the next movie that's also three [ __ ] hours um I you mentioned he's not in the Poor House you take 20 million from a man who just got divorced and he's in a different financial situation than he was two years ago maybe that's true you know he's he's always made these types of movies though um it'll eventually make its money back maybe I don't I don't [ __ ] know I don't know what the streaming um numbers are going to be you just wouldn't three hours is you got to make a really good movie if it's gonna be three hours It's gotta it's got a half podcast you know you know something like that um but you know he made the Po and um water world and stuff like that and those are those big long 3our um I it's clear to me I say it's clear I suspect that he's still trying to recapture that magic from Dances with Wolves um you know he won he won the Oscar for that or the movie won the Oscar for that I think for best picture it's a incredible movie and it's basically it's kind of in the same exact time period as this movie he just made it's right at the end of the Civil War and the year that follow um actually I think this show might ear with Wolves was begin him um at the end of the Civil War and then he goes out west and takes on that army base or whatever um you ever seen that Taylor Dances with Wolves no I cry every time I watch it I've only seen it twice it's like classic movie yeah I'm not a movie guy but that's one I've seen it it is it is really good it's um The Last Samurai is basically just that movie but Japan I've Seen the Last Samurai yeah white savior I love it uh Last Samurai is so absurd when why is Tom Cruz The Last Samurai they didn't have any like like at least get ke Reeves in there he's half Japanese I think like like wait was he I didn't think in that movie that Tom Cruz was The Last Samurai like it was about it's about the end of the Samurai right because you have the transition and the the kingdom has the guns now but but but at the end there he is with the samurai wearing all that [ __ ] Samurai armor with the [ __ ] sword and everything it why is it a white guy that had to come and save the Samurai um I I because it wouldn't it wouldn't be a fish out of water tail if it was a Japanese guy made it a Korean then it'd be real fish out of water they'd have burned him on the first day yeah they wouldn't have cared for that like oh he