NEW YORK GIANTS | NY GIANTS JOE SCHOEN ALREADY SCOUTING QUARTERBACKS?

[Music] in the words of my man e The Chosen One let's talk about from the 90 to the 53 breakdown any day I get home man I listen to the shake now they said the real is the fake now and B un sense it so you know they got a hate now blow that's only one of more shots lrp freezy even in the Box linebackers matter sh and Jrock end of era they [ __ ] it on time cough Steve from DC Shan benine Charlie Goan every Rees dwn day and challenge what he say you got the real debate call up on Wednesdays but stick to the topic you call up on Tuesdays you're all in the N call up on Mondays please make a splash agency Thursdays only ride a style for free on Friday huh what you know about the Shakedown get your news from the 90 to the 53 breakdown what you know about the Shak down get your news from the 90 to the 53 breakdown what you know about the Shak down get your news from the 90 to the 53 break down huh y yeah yeah yeah what's going on Big Blue Nation GI fans all around the world Shakedown Sports podcast is here on the Shakedown media Network on your YouTubes what's going on to the people out there hello hello hello happy labor day you know what I mean surprise I got the brother Jrock same difference e the chosen one from the boogie down yo yes sir holding it down for brother shakes who's on his way I'm last real poet without further Ado man let's get it in in we are here tune in subscribe let the people know that we out here you know what I mean grab a drink it's Labor Day holiday if you don't drink grab uh apple juice or orange juice you know what I mean and we here so we start off and see how people doing man what's going on Jrock how you doing today brother chilling man chilling man I had to work you know on this holiday that's cool get that money um y ready talk about these Giants man rumors are that they had some scouts at some of these games so I wonder what they Scouting For hopefully a whole bunch of people because there was some Talent on display this past weekend fresh out the gate and the transfer portal and all the dopeness that was going on we going to get into it but they better have some people at these at these colleges but what's going on S [ __ ] bless to see another day man you know what I mean one step closer to Greatness um you already know how I say man taking it easy man you know what I mean soaking it up enjoying life you know what I mean enjoying the Small Things time that you could spend with people and things like that even on the holiday come through and chop it up with the Bros you know what I mean talk about some of these things we seen over the weekend perhaps true true all right already already and that last but not least with the new icon and the new Emoji either chos one from the boie down the brother looks serious oh that's fire yeah that's where I'm walking that's how I'm walking into you know what I mean this season right here all business I ain't got to sit sometimes I could just sit I ain't got to stand on business all the time you see what it is Leo for the you know for the Zodiac blue for the giants real for the people day was wonderful good to hear my brother's voices same also I got an offering for you I'll talk to you off air want to see what you're doing this Friday brother but we'll talk about it um it's about it 100 years man FanFest you know coming up big things going on New York football Giants gonna have some of the greatest 100 Giants of all time out there this Saturday man I mean this Friday so for those of you that's going to join the festivities uh it's gonna be a big deal and uh Jrock mentioned Scouts yeah Shane was in Colorado you know that's where he started oh yeah yeah he in Colorado yeah he was in Colorado pictures all over the Internet of him right there live game day you know hopefully he was looking at Travis Hunter man Travis Hunter boy Godly that kid there that dude is awesome I'm curious I was talking to shakes earlier I was like I'm curious how long he can sustain both both sides of U the football like that but it's phenomenal work phenomenal ain't going to happen in the NFL though he GNA have to choose one I think most likely he may choose receiver since it seems like he's having a lot of success at it and he's like an electric you know he's electric on the field I like to see him go against um some more Stout defenses I mean don't get me wrong I'm not taken away from what he did game one you get on the field you got to play that's it but um I just want to see him against some better cornerbacks better competition then give a better rating so it could be unjustifiable I don't want to hear nothing getting right into it does that team look small to you Colorado yeah does color absolutely absolutely and you gonna see exactly how small they are when they play against a team like Nebraska them boys is them boys is cornbread wellfed over there yeah it's goingon to get real so you know let my brothers chime in on that I think the de the Deep line yeah but the offensive line I think they got a little bit bigger think so yeah a little bit not where they need to be yeah but a little bit they still ass though because Shor still taking he's taking punishment yeah man and I told that I said that to y'all in in the chat he's still spinning 400 plus yards that's that's a fact that's a fact but he scared the [ __ ] out of me when he did that one play where he stood it was I mean h hell of a heads I play set your feet and all that but man that [ __ ] was coming boy I was like what you doing and you know and you know they wanted to you know they wanted to hurt something because they from a school that they don't play against you know that type of competition on live TV so they was showing up to show out shout outs to the quarterback too man from n you like we not going just [ __ ] on his day his name was cam Miller that boy had a day man yeah there's a lot of talent man I saw on the field this weekend um shoot which watching this dude castalano now he ain't really throwing the ball though but they castalano quarterback for Boston College he ain't really throwing the ball but they playing tonight right they playing um they playing what they playing Florida State yeah Boston College Florida state is on right now okay shouts out to Mosley peace Mosley what's going on man happy labor day you know what I mean speaking of Labor Day shout out to the people had a day off and shout out to the people who work today you better had got double time and a half or better facts if not your job is bogus son let you know that right now if you ain't get double time and a half today for working your job is bogus that be a lot of jobs that's America for you don't get and that's why he said it and I knew exactly where he was coming from when he made the statement in the word bogus I get it trust me I know I I love that word because it helps out with explaining some things without Curson fact you know St on that topic you know who who wasn't open today freaking Chick-fil-A yeah so they was closed yesterday and today yeah Dam see wonder if they paid their employees though about yeah they gonna play them the holiday play wow employes man that's what's up see I love Chick-fil-A isn't it's a it's a Christian owned spot too exactly see what I'm saying see what I'm talking about shout out to chicksa it's Labor Day we not gonna make y'all work go ahead take the day off Dam the day is supposed to be off because the day of the holiday Labor Day can't keep folks away from that D on chicken though I know right they be mad as [ __ ] i' be forgetting and [ __ ] I was like damn right don't you ever wonder what they got in their chicken to make people I definitely know what they got in their chicken for sure know know y'all know what it is we ain't gon we ain't gonna do that we ain't gonna try to be little Drive always full at Chick-fil-A you never seen a drive not full unless they closed yeah I'm tell everybody it's not even us though like white folks love like pumpkin [ __ ] white there's 18 inred that Chick-fil-A used that's banned in other countries even they don't even use it right here in Canada like the [ __ ] they feed the US that [ __ ] they banned everywhere else I know [ __ ] is terrible terrible save us for real skinny as [ __ ] don't know Europeans be skinny as hell everybody a model walk by like your fam every so can I get a 2X I'm sell those here mate I didn't I didn't watch that which one which one the Georgia game Oh Hell oh hell to the very end oh hell yeah how be yo he he did exactly what he needed to do Brock pie he did exactly what he needed to do Brock pie that's exactly who Carson back is to me he's Brock py meaning as I got a system and I'm going to flourish in that [ __ ] and I ain't got to worry about nothing as long as I do what I need to do and he did what he needed to do command of huddle threw the ball where it needed to go made the passes that he needed to make hit the in in stride that he needed to hit in stride handed it off to the running back when he needed to run it and it let his defense eat swell eats Joe Shane and the Giants been on that kid since last year I think I cover that [ __ ] in like the um Thursday that's how yo they've been on that last I like okay but you know what with cl and I said this the other day when I saw it with score was they not the PowerHouse they used to be because of one reason the coach does not want to use the transfer portter that's why he's not getting the he's not getting the players everybody else is getting so he want to stay with the Homegrown and scouting and doing all that all right man then you gonna get what you get get your ass tore up exactly that's what it is you you you you think they still want to roll you ain't Dao Sweeny you heard you ain't you ain't him all right they don't know you like that not him yeah they don't know you like that coaches got names somebody be like yo I'm going that who who's coaching over there dbo Sweeney you know what yeah who's coaching over there what's his name again Jrock Clemson yeah that s yeah that but but he ain't him no more you feel me using the transfer portal man he think he these kid look money they ain't looking for no you can come to their house all you want how much you offering facts for real yeah but he he he ain't the dude he used to be and that needs to be talked about because he don't got the quarterback man come on right when when DAV Sweeny started winning because he had quarterbacks right who they got a quarterback right I don't nobody even knows yeah that dude he's not good Trevor Lawrence and Deshawn Watson was the last time they did anything yeah what wasn't wasn't the when Trevor Lawrence left that was the end of Clemson for real yeah D did the Yuga lelay kid he wasn't there right at one point it was that's what I'm talking about see I know I'm not bugging Yuga lelay was supposed to be the next after Trevor Lawrence to be the dude but he ended up being trash that he transferred he he transfer yeah State where' he go he went to Oklahoma state for a in Oklahoma State yeah but now he's in Florida State yeah he playing tonight yeah exactly and that's wild I didn't even remember that but now look now you get to see him play night yeah he's terrible terrible yo 360 was he trash he said Life 360 e n just CA I was watching the kid and I was like yo is he ever gonna turn into something and the answer is no but yeah they they got beat down so badly that D Sweeny had to iiz to the fans CU that was their home opening I was about to say they was at home beat them there I'll beat you down put it on them sit your ass all the way down you got a problem no sir yo Arizona is the team that I'm looking out for they put up 61 I know it's on New Mexico but they said that that game those folks showed out there was some players was that the game the kid had 304 yards receiving was it yeah yeah 304 yards like who was guarding four testchown this dude the quarterback nobody Noah Noah FAA Noah FAA on 10 catches on 10 catches that's crazy that's 30 yards per catch that's crazy that's 30 yards per catch and they had 100 yard uh rusher on 13 carries 106 yards on 13 carries easy day easy day like goly I got to see that against a real team cuz cuz that's how that's going to go y'all know that right yeah I mean but I I did see their players those these kids are big you know pause yeah you know but tell y'all who else then put they self on the straight radar that Miller Moss kid from USC oh yeah yo is that um the dude that made that catch was that Chris Carter son I don't know we catch the USC player that made that oh that one-handed catch and he got hit in the head yeah I don't think that was Chris was like three that's the catch I told yall about I was like y watch that cat was crazy old Beckham catch that yeah but he had like three different folks on that [ __ ] was crazy that was a good game last night I did watch that one and I ain't gonna lie I was pulling for LSU of course you should be brother of course you should be but like I said them boys them boys showed up man and they showed out and that boy like I said that Miller Mo kid watch his name y'all know why y'all know why don't gotta say nothing else y'all know why watch GH the ghost let him win three four games in a row watch what they start talking who LSU no USC he plays for USC yeah the quarterback for USC watch if he win three games what they start talking about that's all say 11 14 146 yards and a touchdown in the fourth quarter right and I I think he was like the first USC player in like damn near 20 something years I don't know the number exactly like 20 something years to throw for like 350 passing yards plus like in a in an opener like he he that's why they they thirsting right now he part of the uh bloodline or is he just a different moss moss oh no he's all the way Caucasian he he on ESPN right now yeah he's all the way all the way like it ain't it ain't it ain't a negro genan in him respectfully respectfully you know what I'm saying it ain't nah just nothing to do with Randy and them more like the Steve L that's a fact Arch Manon 37 eight passing yards the third most in the opener in the last two seasons by USC two seasons two seasons N I think that jint is like 25 20 20 20 something I'm saying 25 Seasons I'm thinking I'm thinking he did something that Caleb Williams already did no 25 Seasons yeah yeah I told you they on this yo damn I'm I'm no near ESPN so I don't know what's going on but I just know how he's been all over you know what I'm saying the Airways the last 20 hours he just been on TV he's literally on there right now that's crazy why I'm talking to you I'm no in near ESPN CU I just turn on right now BC up 146 at half time and they got Moss they they s down talking to Moss right now doing a half as would as they would because you know how that go he say look like a young Randy Quade come here come here qu yes that would be Total Recall just in case if nobody knows what he's talking bro who did Bama play man they didn't even play like they feel like come on man Western Kentucky right they don't play Nobody bro they of course they didn't play nobody that's how them open his goal come on they give him the warmup games you know get everybody in the groove see what's going on and then you play them real teams and then wind up getting stomped that's ridiculous wucky and the kid the quarterback over there then played for six different schools come on Finley yeah the worst what theck the worst quarterback in college how many schools you gonna play for man how many times you gonna start [Music] them that's that's what I got a problem with how many times he gonna start like he ain't got bad film for six schools before yours like we be like okay so let's just sit down and watch the tape Jesus kid so what made you transfer there Jesus what made you transfer to those two schools oh my god when you went to the third one what happened gez so this is your fourth School in how many years you know what I'm just as dumb as everybody else too you're starting week one okay kid you've been around for quite some time what's up what you say Z right I said the kid was awful he threw two interceptions in the first quarter first of all his passes was awful his accuracy is awful I'm telling you respectfully he's the slowest africanamerican I've ever seen I said that to y'all in the chat I said yo he has to be the slowest African am I ever seen who you talking about Finley Finley TJ Finley quarterback for Weston Kentucky and Alabama get to play them the first game like come on what type of gim is that bro lay what we got going on here that is like I said I thought they when they supposed to change that with the with all this conference moving around is horrible that's horrible man like you know mean and all these teams joining the other you know like this team join Big 12 this team you know joining the SEC they supposed to put all that stuff to a rest yeah yeah but it ain't I mean you got what division is West in Kentucky in because Alabama's still in the SEC yeah come all Mountain West I don't know we all get consist yo bro come on man stop sun the Sun Coast Conference it's not right I know I know they something about they outside the box watch him somebody look up Western Kentucky conference they're gonna be like oh exactly let me see I'm like Dam can't do 12 we gotame One D they in the homicide division warm up you heard you heard Sam they in the homicide division Telly tell something got to go does that you right what the [ __ ] is that Conference USA that's where they at where they at that's why yeah I typed it in as Conference USA came up that's that's what I'm saying that's a real thing Conference USA sound real stupid but I don't give a damn n FCS is there another name for that homicide division what's it called again Conference USA right look at the teams in there lrp just go just name three teams in there to tell you exactly [Music] why let's see let me actually Division division cats come out of Western Kentucky and go to the NFL you know who yeah now look I knew that was coming soon soon as I said that I knew I knew what the deal was right there now let me go to the video tape go to the video tape because it is some people who came out of Western Kentucky all right hold on don't worry I will find it for you guys I got it it's well no I mean go ahead you keep doing what you doing but right they're in the conference with a lot of tight ends Liberty out of Western Kentucky like Liberty come on now you see I'm saying I'm trying to tell you Louisiana Tech utap like this is Tim Hardway he ain't even playing football yeah they shouldn't have went up against that yeah that's right they should have no they shouldn't let it's it's once a year this tell you your ass don't belong they shouldn't have went up against that group that's not fair BR guys let know let's go out here and change the world why not us that's why killing them kids confidence before they get started and building the hell out of someone else's you know what I'm saying someone else's be the ones complaining hey what do Dion got going on over there you're playing Western in Kentucky the hell you playing complaining about you know what I mean like get 43 players through the portal went over there to [Music] Colorado they still you know what the problem is same in Brothers their school is where you go when you want to enter the transfer portal you know what I'm saying you go to Western Kentucky to into the transfer portal all right I had enough of this [ __ ] is Clemson calling why don't this coach sit this goddamn quarterback down he is [ __ ] up the church's money who ugele yeah man this team is ranked 10 you know what I mean look at this [ __ ] first of all I've been watching right he hasn't done anything wrong at all I haven't seen him do anything wrong I only I've only been watching for the last minute and a half he ain't giving the ball away but he ain't moving it either I seen him I seen him with a little screen fling right then I saw the dangerous hand offs who's Cousin Eddie ghost who Cousin Eddie who you talking about Marland out of Yukon too by the way who what happened Marilyn beat the [ __ ] out of Yukon he just throw the ball into [ __ ] leg nowhere straight feet did he just hit a [ __ ] in the leg I have reserved my right to say something I was like that horrible in my mind interception gotta s him down gotta sit him down yo they said if Florida State loses this game they got a 1% chance on making a playoff after all the noise that they didn't made about not being able to compete in the playoffs last year looking real supect and one already open week scared Lo a two a two lost team though [ __ ] in this college football climate you're not giving yourself a chance at the end nope that's why LSU that's why I was like yesterday when LSU lost they can't lose no more games if they want to go to playoffs oh yeah D B cousin that's hilarious chis WS that [ __ ] there Randy Quay that's Randy Quay okay I was thinking of Dennis Quay but um so you know what what I'm kind of mad at you who me yeah you hey what you because you you do know Mike White Tyler higgy B zappy Taiwan Taylor Jonathan dalan Forest lamp Brandon der right George Fint Jeremy Johnson all these dudes came from Western Kentucky yeah but nobody know them after after Bailey zappy don't nobody know none of them names so don't nobody know towan Taylor the wide receiver I remember him Tyler higgy the tight end hi yeah I remember Higg Mike mik White quarterback Bailey zappy all right I'm just saying I got some names some names Alabama should be playing in game one yeah but those are individuals I'm just naming guys that made it to the league man that's they they they ain't there now they got their ass Twisted too yesterday yeah they Twisted messing with this Alabama team damn [ __ ] Marin really Boston yeah Boston College about to eat o team boy they get this team looking different look at her face yeah that dude was off the chain GH some [ __ ] was out there Christmas Lampoons was my favorite with that dude [ __ ] went over and stole his boss was like here tell them what you told me was like [ __ ] I was I have a question that I have to answer for a fan right dm' me shout outs to Kev with the taco Sombrero as the Avatar as always from Jersey actually met the young man cool as hell um he asked where stop that don't do that where that came from so I took that sound bite from a movie called heart of the heart of they fall with Idris Elba Regina King uh it's a country it's a African-American western movie on Netflix so at one point the guy was inside of a a brle and he shot him and right before he died he was like stop that don't do that so that's where we got it from C is that where we got it from I thought we got yeah I took it no I took it from I took it from the heart of day fall huh I thought it was from the Denzel Washington when he was I thought it was from Hurricane no no that's that's not that's not hurricane shut the [ __ ] up you shut the [ __ ] up that's from Hurricane oh yeah okay yeah yeah I took that from Hurricane shut the [ __ ] up no you shut the [ __ ] up okay I got you that was a dope ass moveie though the harder than fa yeah that's where I took that from I got some more [ __ ] that I want to give to you guys cuz I believe that those sound bites are supposed to be put in to emphasize our explanations like I got this I got the I got some crazy [ __ ] that's gonna come up for the season y' going be like nah like when we these conversations and we just take a 30 second like we took take a 5-second pause and we just bring the Sound by in no doubt I got Y no doubt so man um I want to get to this uh press conference we don't actually have we're not actually going to show it but for anybody who seen Deo talking to media and then we got Shan talking to the media then at these games how confident do you think they are about this team they about to put on the field anybody I'll go I'll go last I'm G say uh not at all I mean from what they're doing on a on the especially the defensive side the secondary all right because the front seven is it's it's pretty solid except we don't know who's lining up against I mean next to uh Bobby y game one um everybody freaking hurt but uh besides that the secondary is like you see they scrambling around they even brought freaking they I don't know why they brought him back bro he can't get it out I don't know why why you what you mean you don't know why they want him back they had to bring him back now and which we knew I that's we all knew that was gonna happen right that is Shane's fault bro I'm keeping it real because if they wanted him back they would have they would have brought him back they would have offered him a contract and said here what they didn't a nobody else even touched him no other team touched him he never even went for an interview nowhere else see I think he was in the back pocket all along I that's what I all along and because of his tenure or whatever he didn't need to do anything he don't want to do anything he didn't want to be involved in training camp OTAs and all that [ __ ] you know what I mean and just wanted to come out and play now the what I'm GNA be looking out for is injury but there's a price to pay when you do it that way but I think he was in that back pocket the whole time he then you should have you should have brought him on earlier right so now you got you got slowly bring him on he has he's not in football shape so now you gotta slowly bring him on and you got a game in a couple days all right like that was that was that was a wrong move man either way you if he had him in back pocket you should have took him out your back pocket earlier because you knew you needed a cornerback I agree what you say e um I believe what you both are saying right it's a two-way situation one you didn't fool anybody especially after letting me watch The Hard Knocks now I know how you think you done [ __ ] up all the way with giving me the insight espe with all that [ __ ] rhetoric and you trying to throw icing over it I I I walk right past that layer I see exactly who you are I was on board with a lot of [ __ ] because you fixed our situation financially but I'm also on board with the way you think and it ain't all that fam let's keep it real the way you think ain't all that and now I know so your point Jrock if you got a ace you got to play that hand when you already know [ __ ] is getting in desperation especially when you losing and you can't make board you got to put that out there because guess what Anything could happen at this point you waiting for injury in my mind you feel me and to your point lrp we all knew what time it was we brought that up a month ago what would be the best possible scenario right now adori complete the team we complete the you complete the team him remember he's not playing cornerback one as he was last season he's playing cornerback two which gets more help than anybody in the in the defensive back field he's going to be helped let's never forget that they're going to allocate funds over there safeties uh uh whatever's necessary to keep him on PA especially now same same I let you uh Rock after this but to what jrock's point the frustrating part of from Playing devil's advocate against myself a mad at the fact at one why didn't you want to be involved earlier so you can get up to game speed actually had some reps the communication this that and the third schematically wise and how these dudes play together I think you shoot yourself in the foot by not doing it that way that's one and for two I forgot what two was go ahead say stop that do that don't do that m is simple like you know he's a veteran you know what I mean he'll get acclimated and I I believe he'll have more good than bad I take it I I feel a little bit better than I did with just flly and um M Cloud because oh there's my two neither one of them was a a starter neither one of them was neither one of them has solidify themselves when they was given opportunity to do so it was the job there for the taken and nobody stamped and certifi their they're doing so on to the next we're going to go back to something we know because we already know no matter what regime is in here we all believe in you know the nepotism [ __ ] you know bringing the same people but do what we know so dory's out there you know what I mean we already know his capabilities you know what I mean I me myself I seen him give up on a couple plays last season you know what I mean and then you put it into a perspective where is like um do I risk being able to get picked up during the off seon to help out a losing team with everything I got or do I play this for the money because I'm still a young vet I'm 27 28 years old I could still get a check before I let this game go cuz it's coming to that time you know you know what I mean so I respect to have there it's going to be more positive than negative man you throw something on the scale you throw something on the scale and sometimes you gota run with the 6040 sometime you gota run with the 6040 man same I'm gonna use a word that you just said that's not and that's my number two you said start I'm gonna say slow start that says to me that's my number two they are s certified to come out having a slow start and that is the number one thing that I do not want them to have but I think that they had already set themselves up to half one yeah but they knew they needed a quarterback they said it they said it he said yo we gonna draft either Kool-Aid mckinstry or terion Arnold and they missed out on both of them why because they didn't go get them if that's if those are the two people you would go get them why you sitting around waiting for them to drop to you and you know you need a [ __ ] quarter cornerback can we talk about it for a second Jrock now where did both of these guys get drafted watch this before the Giants got the opportunity right where that first Brian Burns second round pick you gave that's my de see see what I'm see what I'm saying same and this is why we to shake down and this is why we to shake down because it's it's it's symbiotic this is why we to shake down right there round two pick 41 yep right around there all all over this is what I'm trying to tell everybody man I try to tell everybody one thing and I'm G keep saying it because I said it to my brothers live when it happened I said we had too much space in between picks this was possibly the longest draft that I could possibly ever remember man it was crazy the time that went between draft picks once he gave up that to it was a WP I told y'all that I said yo he [ __ ] it up now when he gave up that two go get Ryan Burns I was like it's over now he ain't gonna he's just gonna sit there and wait to for whoever to drop to and Jrock I said it to you fellas I said that was the wrong thing to do because watch how many of these [ __ ] come off the board and we got away Live In the Flesh like yeah it was just happening and we knew it we knew it couldn't do nothing about it he had no he had no draft Capital he couldn't do anything he couldn't do anything that one pick that would have been finessing if he had gave him that late second round pick instead of that first round that first that earlier second round pick man he would be able to finagle a lot more yo he would have got CB2 right there we would have had our cornerback room set for the next five years barring Health if he would have got Kool-Aid mckinstry with T banks we would have been good money or Dory Jackson would have been home wherever he was at talking the same [ __ ] he was talking yeah well I was I was staying ready to you know so I didn't have to worry about it I just was you know training back with the high school track coach yeah we we get it so you know just throwing this in there not mad at Brian Burns but no if it was up to y'all y'all disagree with how Shane negotiated the deal together he absolutely package look let me tell you and this question is for everybody if his best friend wasn't the GM of the Panthers do you think that deal gets done hell no hell no the GM had to convince the owner to take that deal the owner didn't want to take it he had to convince him he came out of his mouth and said I give you Burns Shane wasn't even talking about nothing he said I he said I give you Burns you want anybody want with Burns for like two ones or something like that that's exactly what came out of his mouth right he just talking I mean you you know that's the I guess Playing devil's a that's the price you pay I mean I see you guys' point and all that says to me is that they have to now overcome schematically by getting a player that's familiar and knows the system know came from uh the defensive coordinators in Tennessee so of course they use that relationship to try to marry some kind of this schematically which I've been bringing up for the last five weeks you drafted a guy in Kayon Tibido who had a 11 12 sacks did you really need to get Brian Burns hell yeah I'm just gonna say that say yeah about Kon then a about to look at that you don't want to pay him cause he how he gonna pay him now well he got the he got the he got the paid he got the prove to get paid you feel me he got he got two years to get paid have two 80 million uh Edge rushes I mean I don't understand why he cost that much personally but I ain't got nothing to say that's the price you pay right that's the price you pay right right I mean I don't understand how he cost that much and you gave up a a high second round pick I'm kind of like what's up with you bro your negotiation skills I can't look at Brian Burns though and be you know mad at any about that of him being here alongside of tippo I mean based off of how they wanted to build then they of course they wanted to spend the money on that but you know what that says right that says we're not paying um Kon we're not paying him because you already paid our Edge russer right now I need you to talk that [ __ ] right now Ro hold on let them let them let talk don't do that let him let them let him talk Brothers we having a real situation right now that much of K Kavon Tibido they wouldn't have done that deal for Ryan Burns why ring the bell lrp ring the bell Burns ring the bell all right I don't know where tell me what what I'm R oh no that that's a that's a debate right there okay there you go round one fight there you go Ain nobody debating back because y don't have okay cuz I I just I just I thought somebody all right so so you know what to make it because I can't debate it I can't debate it because guess what I now know the brain of Joe Shane yeah it's called the it's called The Shane brain I know the Shane brain and I'm going to ask SC to do a thumbnail with his face in the brain from Despicable Me y'all know what I'm talking about the the the alien from is the big alien okay yeah no man I ain't ringing no Bells PA but I disagree with that that ain't my let's go let's go they G lock that kid up probably about next year man another 11 and a half 12 this year you he has do that right they gonna pay Squan you said the same thing right but that's that's different he don't believe in running backs and he don't believe in paying two Edge rushes over8 million either speaking of running backs there's a there's a um a rumor going around that Josh Jacobs turned down more money yeah I put that out from the Giants you know what I mean he was he was give him more guaranteed money than the Green Bay Packers was going to give Green Bay Packers only gave him 12 million guaranteed even why we see none of that in hard knock though exactly even though come on man come on Guarantee million of it come on man why we but why we didn't see none of that I'm asking y' why we a see none of that not gonna talk about that that's why I said they ain't gonna show everything they gonna edit a lot of [ __ ] out that [ __ ] is Club bogatar there is a um on I think it's big big blue view or whatever the um one that Dan does I think he has a contradict you know a corresponding article that says that the reports about Josh Jacobs were either not true or you know wasn't that much or something but how wait hold on hold on because the article I showed you guys that was Josh Jacobs talking that wasn't no uh third party quoting him that was him talking talk about it that was him saying they offered me I think he said three to four or four to five more million dollars guaranteed than what the Packers gave him and why he didn't want to come here I [ __ ] with GI wasn't going to pay no $48 million contract that's a fendy they gave him a fouryear contract too which they get out of after two years I ain't messing with New York I a messing taxes he wasn't feeling it so he he backed out of it there you go yeah you want take half my guaranteed money anyway in taxes you Squan want the guarante money bro the Eagles gave him $25 million guaranteed and that's what the Giants wasn't going to give him 28 that man 27 28 man how to gave that man 25 bro they ain't saying nothing at the running back position four years now you get to face him see I think it's different I think you know and I get what you're saying R however that don't have to pay Burns and tibs at the same time you know what I mean one now that sign he's not he's not due to do anything until a couple of years they can sign uh resign or extend Kavon next year for real you know what I mean so they it wouldn't come up in the same same fiscal year okay so so hold on let me let me say this right real quick to LP's point because I know it's going to tie in the point that you're going to bring up Sam I just want to be the mediator real quick so Jrock check it out to LP's point I'm gonna expand on that idea and to Sam's Point which I know he's gonna come and pause and talk about it you lock him up early so you don't have to give him a lot of money you understand if you if you go to his extension next year M you ain't got to give him 80 brother you ain't got to give him 80 and that's the only way now the question is is he the kid to be like all right then I'm for it or if he feel like you know what nah I'm him and I could get way more money on the market because that's what you playing with because if he stays healthy and has another 12 sacks the price goes up price of the brick go up Tibido said that he said you know what I really when with the whole saquan that this is a business right Ryan Burns I say 85 86 million that's that's that's the only the guaranteed money he signed a fiveyear $141 million contract okay that's the annual salary of $28 million what you think they gonna give Kon Tibido yo and sequan Barkley wasn't worth let's talk about it since we right here after you Sam go ahead brother I don't want to cut your wisdom yeah don't don't forget that Giants will um if they don't extend them they'll pick up his fifth year option and they'll be playing fully low again and then be like since you don't want to work with us you play Under This fifth year option with no new deal on the table now you out here with prove it same say you don't want to work with us you gonna play on this 50 option right next year they gonna have to decide if they want to pick up the fifth year right exactly so if they pick up the fifth year what he gonna get it's going to be more than what burns got it's G to be the 100 that 85 you got guaranteed you gonna have to give him the 100 because the market is gonna keep climbing and that's two years from now that's two years from now you talking about paying two Edge rushes over100 million and we better have a top five defense for that how you better have a top five if we under five you done you done played yourself if two Edge rushers is getting on damn near 200 million and we ain't top five dead or alive you playing yourself it's rushers and a defensive tackle draft exactly tell me what other team in the NFL is paying two Edge rushers over100 million none nothing tell me who's doing that none of them it's time it's time to set a new trend around here trying to shoot somebody in the leg for that put the money up front man I mean we all know that ain't nobody getting shot you just know what I mean you know I already know what you mean because they you know I'mma just be honest with y'all in case nobody know in the NFL they be praying for injuries I just want y'all to know that I'm just telling y'all that the GMS and all that they may not say it out loud but when somebody get injured well next man up yeah man got I mean you know just uh y'all know what it is I'm let Secrets out they might they might sit they might sit Daniel Jones because of that trying to tell y might got that Clause he got that clause in his contract he got that Clause bro he get hurt they still gotta pay him still got yeah yeah he got a clause in his contract where he gets paid for injury if he gets injured and he misses a certain amount games he gets a certain amount of money bro Millions thank Joe judge for that somebody say should I'm not gonna lie that was a good throw that was a good throw that was a good throw ulele yeah that was dope you gotta have good timing on the fleet flickers and he still too long though you see how n it was it was the running back punk ass I'm I was right there with you lrp I was right there with you was the running back punk ass scared he was gonna get hit okay see he he got the Rhythm his timing is up oh what a move what a move by the wide receiver what a move yeah it's a game now yeah KRON poer [ __ ] name is they son KRON I got to look that up later disrespect yo this is off topic but anybody ever notice how jagar right talks real like low and proper and pritzy and then screams to the top of her lungs by the time she ends her sentence get so that's that's what you call um manic manic SK so Maness n no it's it's just manic it's not it's not always depression manic is also for like in bipolar you know what I mean so I want to talk crazy because we meet we we we try not to we don't play with mental health but I know something wrong that's all I'm saying that's we she has mental health yeah that's a manic episode right there when you be well listen I just want to tell you why you [ __ ] yeah that that right there that that's a yeah don't even be listening to the [ __ ] dude bro BR hear the questions and and then all he do is say oh wow you talking about real life Street soldiers right yeah list no disrespect to them if you ever listen to him he's a horrible interview yes he is yes he is he sound like he eat the Q cards what's the name came on there what's the dude name um Charleston white came on there and told him to this face he's like the questions y'all ask are horrible you would think that would you think they would take the constructive criticism right and be like you know what let's ask better questions they came right back the next week with the same [ __ ] oh wow that's crazy and then yo they let Jaguar right do whatever she want they don't she don't listen she just talks yeah she be bugging she be bugging that's why I said manic because that's that that's you know what I'm saying those them episodes I can't help it I mean off topic like [ __ ] sometimes I get stuck in these rabbit Hol more so just for Behavioral analysis y'all know what I do [ __ ] fascinates me you know what I mean like canot turn away it fascinates me for you lrp as a fellow clinician you know what I've been dealing with for 12 years and I see them all in New York and I disrespecting nobody when I say them all y'all know what I mean watch that last episode with uh Charleston white I think it's a couple days old he basically told him he said you you watched it yeah I did B he told him he's like yo every time somebody comes up here and talks about me y'all don't have my back I just let them talk about me he said I ain't [ __ ] with y'all all like that that's a fact that's a fact let's get that out there that's how you to that's how you do that you tell somebody dead did a microphone pause I ain't [ __ ] with you like that yeah he like y' be talking about nothing that doing the community they say right Community right CA y'all up there to tear black man down let's be real with it oh he he says what he does on those platforms is a character right he said behind the scenes y'all know what I'm about this is a character this is to get the people in front of the damn screens so then he can get his message out yeah this all that [ __ ] he does is is a character man I just hate the fact that I just wish just wish you would remove that nword from your vocabulary bro I can't stand after you say some righteous [ __ ] follow it up after every day going sentence you put that D flaming ass thing on us that never [ __ ] out I don't give a [ __ ] what anybody say I don't please spare me the [ __ ] stop saying that [ __ ] you right using you right and we we ourselves have done and I mean me I'm G say me and well as well we have done a fantastic job on lowering that word and one might we might hit a couple of ciphers you know where it's out there you know what I'm saying but as a whole we have done a phenomenal job of Laing that word I bring that [ __ ] up to people I was like yo in the beginning on the on the low you know I mean not say in the beginning it was crazy but stick to it everybody and everybody just stop saying it and up man CU that's not us you know what I mean like that's not us I would never you drop the whole interception and G talk about incomplete you incomplete this dude Ward is killing them he is killing 180 yards tonight this dude is cooking pause you know why you hungry son yeah Paul just some more squirrel you know why min this defense has been on the field for a long time yeah you know it's real when your mouth piece sweating hanging on your chin strap your mouth piece just sweat let me see what else uh yo he can run though bro what he can run he is a low center of gravity and is one cut one move and he he's skinny through the little situation look whoopy whoopy what yo that's Crazy Sam his offensive lineman had to jump up cuz he went underneath him pause he jumped up look he jumped up to get out of his way yeah I'm telling you this Boston nice let me clarify what I said about um Daniel Jones contract so basically if he gets hurt this season he still gets paid right but next season they also have to pay him 3 million of his $30 million salary you heard yeah yeah yeah and I love you for that rock yeah that's three fours you understand me that's three fours of a contract right there if he ouch ouch so so all of y'all that feel like oh we can go pick a quarterback next season yo first of all if he get hurt it's going to hurt against the C more than him healthy exactly so go ahead and keep on you better hope this offensive line hold up or you going to be offensively offensive when you find out we can't pay a quarterback yeah so interesting you know what it is it makes me mad that people are so stupid and I can't say it no other way and I'm not saying you stupid because you're not intellectually qualified I'm saying you stupid because you don't know what you're talking about and you just moving off a motion and then like us got to help you educate you but then you going to take that somewhere else as if you knew it for real don't be a sucker push the like And subscribe button hit the Bell man yeah I mean y' for see him I mean I ain't going into it man I ain't even going into that part that is g to be what it's going to be all right I got a question go ahead my brother go ahead lrp say it well about Daniel Jones and you know his success rate and all this and predictions right has anybody's predictions changed at all since we did the prior you know the the pre pre-season um schedule yeah I was I was on I was on um the big blue crew one of they um podcast and they allowed me to just chime in and talk and they did a record breakdown and I found myself being 13 and four bro on the records out listen listen I I told them that I was high listen to me I gotta talk to my brothers I just came from church and I jumped on the line so I need y'all to know that it was a lot of Holy Ghost Inside you bro okay and when and then when nyg broke it down and said Joe E you got them going 13 and four I open my bible back up and said Thou shalt not kill I apologize [Music] I was bugging because I was high I said that I said yo I'm high I'm just coming from church the holy spirit is in me I just to finish praising but I'm I'mma blower my situation no lrp no no no no I'm still once once we read once he read off the teams again and then the times that we played him in the year I look at it like this 10 and six 11 and seven again I'm I'm I'm on that wave I'm on that wave I'm on that wave for me for me I hope he's successful right and I don't say this about Daniel Jones because I don't want him any here right but this year and this year only I'm invested man I'm invested deeply in this team right I went out got a New Jersey I don't get jerseys like that who's your who you got well I got I got the new the um the 100 year anniversary jersey Dexter Lawrence oh nice okay okay um all right you already know who I got y'all need to ask for real you got Tio no never you got the number the number nine neighbors no no y'all know what time it is y'all know what time it is he should have never chose the right number for his d you know what's up you you know how bad I always wanted to wear a Giants jersey with the number one on it that's all he had to say what I know that's right 169 plus tax because I put the patch on it I put the 100y year patch on it J expensive boy but um somebody might call bum they G see one all year he is a bum every game but yeah yo I'm I got I got the uh NFL Ticket because I want to see every freaking game like I'm telling y I'm invest can I get the keys please can I get the keys please rock rock I need the keys can I please get the keys I got it on all my TVs man all right what I'm saying how many huh I Ain no more keys left you can't you can't sacrifice one for you bro I'm down I'm down B I'm down bad I I have moved out the house you back in the projects I need your help he like soon as you come around with some cake down I'm down bad it was different this time of year last year I had anything I wanted you know what I'm saying I'm I'm down there a little bit I already booked it and I'm going to the Monday night game Steelers Giants nice is it is it in is it in New York it's in Pittsburgh oh nice yo now you know what rock is smart because them tickets is dirt cheap right now are he smart he know what time it is and yo by the the price you'll pay to come to New York and buy a ticket that's a round trip flight onethird of hotel and the game ticket yeah he know what he doing and now I know what I'm doing send me a send me a cat bro just send me your section where you at I got it oh I want to bottom bro the hundreds yeah but it was it was minor figures though right see that's what I'm talking about let's not talk about it no more people GNA start trying to buy them up I was like if I wait man this is GNA be a whole lot of money is it we played them in November no next month October word yo I thought that we play ulele may be the second slowest africanamerican I ever seen that's gonna be dope there uh yeah that is gonna be dope BR let me think am I gonna be in Vegas at that time hille in October yeah I'm gonna be in Vegas anyway I got to see what it cost to fly out of Vegas to Pittsburgh oh [ __ ] they play Tampa do I gotta go back to Tampa anytime soon oh I I remember the question that I was going to ask right do you guys are matter of fact not do you apologies are you guys currently happy with the 11 starters on both sides of the football now that we got Ador and remember people shout outs to the wrench gang everybody in the chat if I think there some people there yeah remember he's CB2 he's not CB1 and when you think about a CB2 right and I'm not trying to sell nobody I'm just talking about what it is when you think about a CB2 how many of them are better zadori Jackson CB tws not CB ons and that's going to take some people some time are you guys happy no go ahead go ahead R I'm say no um on offense because it's it's still a work in progress we don't know about this offensive line oh know I know about it you don't know man we haven't seen them all play together inas we did we did when they played against um the Lions no all of them wasn't starting JMS wasn't in there I don't care about him I don't care about him I'mma keep it real with you but I I what I'm saying is I was concentrating on what was going on okay and if he was not there but everybody else was right because they were look what was going on he's not going to make less than what they were so I'm okay I'm not bro um all right again I just have a funny feeling about this offensive line bro because they went up against the twos they didn't go up against their starters they didn't start the lines didn't start any starters in that game right they offensive line looked good I I don't get me wrong about that the offensive line looked good I think they played as well as they can play but I don't know because we had like I said we haven't seen all five of these guys play a NFL game yet so I'm still iffy about that Daniel Jones is who Daniel Jones is he's gonna be Daniel Jones running game we don't know what the running game is g to be like okay it's lot lot of questions so I got a question for you right we on that we on air we live direct the bullets are flying how many points do you think we're going to average that's hard to answer e the chosen one because we didn't score at all in the preseason I'm G say it again how many points do you think we GNA average these are hot takes man if if I was if I was 20.8 so you're at 20 so you just under a shade of 21 20 okay that's the average that's where you at 13.2 okay so you that's where you at so so you talking under 14 points FR okay okay so so we 20 20 point eight and 13.2 right that's where we at okay e is gonna go on record right now this offense is going to average a shade under 23 points a game [Music] 22.7 who were you getting that production from from from Neighbors you already know where I was going with it don't even you know where I'm going first of all we average what last year 19 or something like that he was 17 so you saying he's G to add a touchdown more you damn right you damn right I'm saying that yes I'm saying that I'm saying that I'm saying he adds a touchdown Yes sounds realistic yes that man adds a touchdown yes he does say he had field goal so you had so so so you was at 17 but now you're at 20 M okay just a shade under 21 all right now here's my thing do you guys feel the defense improved since last year oh yeah okay okay so check it out that means that there's going to be shorter field position and more opportunities for him to to for with Daniel Jones with the ball the offense is going to have more opportunities yall agree to that no so the offense ain't gonna have more opportunities with the defense giving them the ball back do you heard what I said I said no the defense is I said the defense is upgraded except for the secondary we lost too much in the secondary what did y'all lose what did we lose McKenna mckenny so so nuan ain't him to you no not yet oh that's what it is I got you I got you yeah y look this first game is going to show me a lot it's going to show us what this offense is about it's going to show us if this secondary can hold up because you going up against one of the best receivers actually oh no it's gonna be a little bit more it's gonna be a little bit more than just one I hope it clamps up e chosen one because based off of what I seen in the preseason it was a lot of Chunk plays I guess especially against receivers that know how to run routes yeah but that wasn't against the ones though what you talk the Houston team Houston wide receivers was on the field when our ones was on the field they got tored we talking about Stefon Diggs Nico Collins tank Dell and John mie II exactly one of one of the best one of the best receiving CS in the NFL combined maybe number three if top five then yes I demand that of them but we not gonna have to worry about that in our division at all they got one receiver per team in our division ain't two one we only got one so far so we not gonna have to face that okay I'm just I'm saying am I right or when you look at the Washington commanders Terry McClaren and who else is there cuz dami brown is gone right everybody gone that's my point Johan doson got traded to traded to the eag for the Carolina Panthers yo they're G who's there well you gonna have to deal with Addison they got the rookie kid Luke mcaffrey okay yeah and we gonna have to deal with uh Jordan adderson talk about that that's what I said I said we G we G when Jrock said he's going up against one of the best wide receivers in the NFL if not the best I said it ain't just only him so this is going to be a good test for our secondary right and first of all his scheme schematics is going to also dictate how we function because we all know right seven is his is his bread and butter so we gonna see how that schemed up that's Bowen bread and butter for seven yeah I mean we're gonna see but I mean and in response to your first question adding on to the to the second my I have the same concerns jro has you know what I mean right tackle and Center specifically they really don't have any any depth there now that schotman hurt you know what I mean so you know giving people rest giving people a blow Paws you know that's going that's concerning this offensive line is still a concern qb1 is still a concern you know I mean we haven't been able to move the ball in preseason no matter who's under the H we haven't scored that one passing touchdown did he just say QB one is a concern because no I GL I I glanced over it cuz I thought you was just going to talk in theil way but I recognized through the silhouette I heard you say qb1 is a concern kept it kept going like it like like it was regular I mean name a qb1 we know who it is yeah and our linebackers you had the had to do that the middle of what do you mean I had to do that not you lrp this man in the back oh over here Spiderman cosigning you know what I'm saying we know who the brother talking about we know what it is you know what I'mma keep saying that yo I'm with you lrp I'm gon say qb1 for the rest of the year know are you gonna do any damage control or you let you know in Mad show what you need your requirements in the preseason and usually if you got all the players that you need it would be like one for one two for two and it should be red if you need a player you know what I mean one required so we still need one required no but lrp is right man like we don't know who is next to to Bobby O man everybody's hurt middle linebacker everybody hurt oh no we got the we got the kid from Miami bro bro the kid from Miami who yeah Bolton is his name um Bolton first of all first of all do you see this boy PFF numbers you that ain't no that ain't no punk over there yeah that boy that boy is that boy ranks very high up yo man okay special team numbers am I right or wrong nah he got against the pass and against the Run that's in there let me debunk this real quick yeah look at look at look at that boy numbers man a trash say 17 points e just to get the wrench gang up in there it's okay I've been defi I've been defied before let me ask y'all a question real quick yo with the way contracts are getting right and these TV deals and all that stuff like that do y'all think at one time in our lifetime we going to see them do away with the salary cap that's a good question same but it'll never happen because that's what regulates the NFL [ __ ] is out of control bro I'm saying if wide receivers start making 35 40 like that then the people covering them going to start wanting that too but you know you know what's crazy saying I want to say this because I'm going to go into a historical Factor right that goes to show you how much money is generated in the NFL that we don't know about that's right there in our faces but now that all these analytics are able to be brought out we're able to see it you feel me so think about how much money been made off players for so long to these NFL franchises that's why they able to build new stadiums move the new countries right look and it's look these teams individually make billions of dollars a year right facts then they share because all the teams make up the NFL so they share the TV revenue and that's billions of dollars a year they share that as a glate yep as a congrate PA a billion dollars just for one game a week so it needs to be one hell of an increase in the salary and that's the reason why people are leaving teams like the New York football Giants to go play for the Eagles so they can bust their [ __ ] twice a year right there we just answer saquon Barley's entire thought process without him even being here you're making billions off of me off of my jersey yo let's talk about it since we here right and it don't got nothing to do with just Him how many 26s did you see in the stance whenever you went to metti Stadium come on man how many did I see when I went to NRG Stadium for a preseason game come on you know mean they still wearing this jerseys bro I got one in my closet y bro people still wear Odell Beckham jerseys to games that's crazy they be throwing them away man and that's what you know I knew that I'm not confident going back to your first question e about this team or that was I guess my question that was the question I asked y'all how confident they are in this team y'all remember I I texted y'all last year I was like super excited hopeful as hell you know what I mean High Hope I think I had like a a very winning record you know what I mean five games above 500 type [ __ ] you know what I mean and we went out there and lost 40 to nothing this year I have absolutely very low hopes and so hopefully they prove me wrong but I don't like his thought process when it comes to the running game and I'm I'm over it now but that [ __ ] was a mistake let let me ask you this then let me let me ask you this did your that heard jro that [ __ ] hurt just now we here this team changed when you saw Hard Knock yeah for the good or for the for the worst for the worst because it was just a complete disagreement and philosophy and at that point I I can't do nothing cuz my [ __ ] I just and I said I said that on the couch I was like me and this [ __ ] see football different and when I came to that realization I'm like you know whatever they put out is what what they gonna put out if they win with it then Kudos is good on you but if you lose with it I have the right to criticize because there's some steps that you make Bri Burns say bar all these things you know I mean decisions that you made early on to put these things in place and now you got to ride with that see I feel like from watching that I feel like one he's not a good negotiator two um he depends on analytics more than anything else because to sit there and gamble on if sa if any other NFL team is gonna pay sequan what he wants and that's the only come on man that was that was the stupidest [ __ ] i' ever seen in my life man exactly you sat there and said nobody else is going to pay saquan because the analytics said is don't pay a running back who's had this many carries and his this age and it's that that and that you can't pay him that $26 million guarantee and he was proven wrong come on man it's the the analogy I like to create or use for this is when a rich person shits on a Family Dollar stock because you don't think that people or you can't even fathom that people go to the store a daily basis for goods and needs you know what I mean but you won't your [ __ ] on there say it won't make no money but at a $34 a pop jumping up to $45 a pop you can make pretty good money may not be your kind because you all on a, stocks but for somebody else it's very valuable can I say something you know when h HBO when any HBO original series comes on it's this sound effect and like a staticky screen right like like it's some noise that it makes right before the program begins that sta I think that same that same noise happens at the end of it right too yeah soon as that noise went on right after the Hard Knocks so just picture that noise like the right right after that noise I ain't [ __ ] with him that's exactly what came out my mouth and when they be like next on Hard Knocks I just turned it that's how much I wasn't [ __ ] with him after the first Hard Knocks I said okay I need to see if I'm bugging after the second Hard Knocks I said wait a minute this [ __ ] may not have it after the third one stop that don't do that and that was it for me I ain't [ __ ] with him I ain't [ __ ] with him so what would you have done differently than what yo I would have listened to [ __ ] Chris roselli y I would have listened to Chris roselli he looked him dead in his face over that table and said are you sure you're willing to lose this asset to our team and he has not been seen since he mentioned that sentence ladies and gentlemen was he the same guy who said what is our identity without saquon that's a fact that's him the young kid with the Sandy hair that was with the gray shirt on S standing over uh Brown Bruce Brown bone whatever [ __ ] name is know talking about yeah you could bring in such and such yeah you heard what he said and and we ain't seen his ass since episode one and I ain't watched it since I seen one episode of that [ __ ] and it real I don't know if I'm making too much of it and y'all can stop me if I am but y'all know how how I thinking what I do he's doing the same thing that the last [ __ ] did I don't understand if you pick up it's schematically even it's like what Jrock says he just goes on analytics and don't worry about what the real situation is because you did the same thing that the last dude did you got rid of Odell Beckham when you had the infrastructure in place I didn't think about that you you [ __ ] right you know what I'm saying like when you got the infrastructure in place you do something to [ __ ] it up so now you got this Beast running a wide receiver but now you you just [ __ ] it up again by getting rid of the person that could possibly create some I just don't I don't no no no no don't do that lrp don't stop yourself Miss sentenced when you cooking like that as the young people say but I'll help out if you don't feel like saying it because you want to hurt something you know what the [ __ ] would have been going on if we kept saquan Barkley drafted Malik neighbors fix that offensive line and I could understand if we got rid of Xavier McKenna I could live with that but guess what the defense wasn't hurting us as bad as the offense was stagnant so if you got three pieces in place prolifically to make your quarterback better that you paid 40 million and yes your contract looks like a baby steel into most people's eyes but that's not what we're talking about we're talking about the schematics of your offense changing dynamically from one season to the next and [ __ ] saquan Barkley with a Malik neighbors and an offensive line changes a [ __ ] team schematically you didn't do that you Dave ghetto in this [ __ ] and you took your number one asset off the board oh for some off some emotional [ __ ] and that's what the same last person did because he didn't take your [ __ ] deal in the off Seas okay no problem sorry he [ __ ] up he had bad representation but are you trying to do what's best for the [ __ ] team or you doing what's best for your ego try prove a [ __ ] point got burnt yeah CU trying to prove a point that you don't need to pay a running back when that's [ __ ] [ __ ] whatever a weapon keep telling you squ is a weapon weapon not just a we all we all labeled him what he was I ain't never call him a running back he's always been a weapon he's never been a running back to me he's always been a weapon and this is the most healthiest he's ever been in the last two years then you would put him behind a line where he could have possibly kept he could have stayed even more healthier and actually had some holes to run through with that Dynamic Speed without having to Juke and jop and J and shuck and Jive in the back field say that again in the in the what the Juke and J and shuck and J and Chuck and job in the back field exactly come on man skib bibity all across the horizontal board that's what under the bridge now you know what I mean right cuz the other 26 gonna be doing [ __ ] that we just hope is okay which he will be he ain't no you know he ain't no doooo but we all know what he ain't so here we Go's see this part right here I I hear you Don J I was just reading that go ahead go ahead I disagree I disagree with it too when he woke up that morning and saw that email of all that dag on extra money that he did not know that he was going to get that should have definitely that had nothing to do with Brian Burns he didn't know he was going to get that they spent that extra money on offensive lineman plus they paid Andrew Thomas they paid Dexter Lawrence they paid all these other cats so they had the money they had the money they had the money take care all of this they don't give a damn they'll sign you this year and reconstruct your [ __ ] next year they don't give a damn exactly and all that extra bread he could have and that goes back to his being NE his bad negotiating skills because I even think that some of these off um even the free agent lineman that he picked up he could have got for a better deal yeah but he had to outbid other teams because uh ran was going to go to the Jets he had to outbid them to get runan oh my God you over here outbid [ __ ] for runan never I apologize I I apologize see I just don't like to talk about it I still think that you know that's just my opinion just my opinion you know what I mean um but I think when he woke up and saw that email with all those zeros and those commas and was like oh snap the new league deal went through and this is what we got now which was more what you expected you could have allocated some funds for that brother to get paid and for you to complete this dag on team it's still at the end of the day it's still a poor decision and you know like I said like same said it's water under the bridge nobody's rehashing anything but as we talk about the season getting ready to start and the team and the product that you're about to put out there if it doesn't look and year three this is year three of this regime you ain't got no you know I mean you can't still be figuring it out yo you ain't never Li man you ain't yo come on man F just didn't want to pay him he did not want to pay saquon Bartley because he doesn't think that running backs are are worth that much especially on a three-year contract he wasn't goingon to guarantee him most of his contract yeah he didn't he didn't view him as a value Asset to this team he viewed him as a running back and and that's the problem he's never valued a running back until guess what the Buffalo Bills ain't get a running back until both asses was gone facts how many times we looked at Josh Allen and said goddamn man could you imagine him with a Derek Henry at some point we said yo imagine if he had saquon Barkley right crazy work come on man crazy work if he had saquan come on man we said that we was like damn Barkley and as a matter of fact we said that last year before a biwe fake ass negotiation we' said yo man imagine if he go to [ __ ] Buffalo we said that yeah that's just you know thought I thought we gonna go to Houston I thought that's yeah that's what the move was but guess what guess what he turned around and got [ __ ] Joe Mixon people forget Houston is stacked across the board they got an offensive line that know how to rock that jail together they got Joe Mixon and Damen Pierce back there y Nico Collins Stefon Diggs tank Dell and John mie thei and they tight end right d crazy [ __ ] going on you know what I mean so it's it's gonna be we got no we're not gonna stop right there lrp and I'm not cutting your wisdom because I wanted to come right back into the situation this [ __ ] Caleb Williams we need to talk about this this [ __ ] got Keenan Allen DJ Moore yo I just realiz Coit Deandre all right I'm I know right that's a hell of a when I sent that text to Y I was like yo y'all see the receivers there first of all you just realiz they got rid of they got rid of Justin fields and did all that that's crazy and DeAndre Swift is decent decent decent he's a top he's in the top 15 he involved bro his backup could start absolutely don't let him get hurt we all know who getting snatched off [ __ ] eye we know getting snatched off the waver wire evil flu is the only thing that I'm looking at side out over there in Chicago not the players EV yeah EV flu first of all it don't even matter his name is whack for real we but we know what's over there right because I wanted that no no no no no no I wanted that Ryan P oh yeah Ryan P yeah yeah you saw what he did he only in his second year I know that's what I'm saying that's what I'm trying to tell he was my second choice after Bri Brian Flores no he's he was there for more than two years what this this this can't be no more than this third bro it can't be cuz we was just talking about this dude as the head coach did he get hired the same year as Sean Shane I'm telling you he was in the Shane situation I'm telling y that or was it a year later we got the we got the check tape let's check tape if it's a year if it's a year later I think it's a year later he was hired as the GM of the Bears which will make him yes this oh all right this is his third year okay okay see what I'm saying yo and look at that and look at that look at that year three look what Heen did right and we all know Chicago wasn't even nowhere near the roster of the Giants because we done B they [ __ ] twice well hold on now hold on I'm I'm just playing Devil's Advocate I can't all the way be [ __ ] dude if we just name the the weapons that they have we're not slouching with neighbors Hyatt Robinson Theo Johnson and you know single ter but it would definitely sound better if Barkley was there but you know those those names in the beginning even secetary ain't nothing to sneeze that listen I ain't even gonna talk about us I'mma talk about them you know I'm saying I'mma talk about Ryan and what he's doing over in shown you feel me yeah that's important look what Heen did in year Tre you feel me this is what heed didn't did heed didn't revamped his whole entire offense drafted his number one quarterback got rid of his number one quarterback right right because he's not afraid to replace yes and I congratulate him on that this is what I'm yo come on man hey you know what made a damn mistake let me tell y'all something if Ryan po was the GM of the New York Giants all y'all Caleb William Riders would have been happy because he would have found some way to finagle the situation to get up the two cuz he has relationships let's get that out there he has relationships don't [ __ ] with Joe Shane and I don't know why y' don't understand that oh I saw that you know [ __ ] with him I wouldn't known that until I saw Hard Knocks and so with the Patriots is like yo you never knock on our door why you knocking on our door now I know crazy me bro when he went to the went down the hall at the comine that [ __ ] was crazy they wouldn't even put that on like we had to we had to hear it with with audio that was crazy yeah that's crazy I thought they follow he has no relationships with these other GMS none none and you know why because he was in Buffalo and buffalo don't got no relationships with nobody don't no [ __ ] body want to go up there and talk come to usbody going to or park in November December and January [ __ ] but you would think you would think that he would right because they were all in the same conference yeah but no but ain't nobody [ __ ] with him it's crazy to me man he's not a friend and that's it bismi he's not and we saw this live and direct and it's sad okay it's sad to sit here and look at the fact that your young GM has the same [ __ ] passion and and and and I'm sorry he has the same relationship status as a 70 something year old GM who just left they ain't [ __ ] with him like they wern't [ __ ] with Gan true he traded Odell Beckham to the Browns in his Prim he thought he was gonna die over there that's why and that's exactly what he wanted and he did yeah and for the most part he did for real for real he he did he died in in in in Cleveland and was resurrected in St Louis yeah but even then I only really think it was the same n you still call him St Louis I'm I'm sorry I mean Los Angeles you know right I know what but it's it's sad man and we got to you know we got to stop playing out here like the man don't got no relationships man same relationships in Carolina that we had before he got here the same relationships we got with Carolina now that he here that's crazy that's true we supposed to be better than that man you supposed to come in here with some some some some some friends like yo come on now what we doing know what I'm saying you supposed to come in here with some friends that's what you know what before that I didn't that's what I thought I thought well this everybody know him I'm like I and y'all used to hear me screaming yo people gonna want to come here and play now you know what I'm saying he ain't letting nobody out the building come to find out nobody even coming to the building let's have a zoom meeting tell your ass no over the video facts facts I tell you what though man just Switching gears just a little bit I'm so [ __ ] sick now the man announced dag on Russell Wilson as the starting quarterback and the next these goddamn oh my god when is R Fields going to start is it going to start for the whole season oh my god oh I cannot stand America in these goddamn fixated stories it's almost like it's targeted it's it's just nonstop I don't understand these people but we knew that lrp everybody on the Shakedown knew Russell Wilson AKA Obama was gonna start you know everybody knew that we [ __ ] said he had they they have packages they got pack for Justin Fields see what I'm saying I don't got no time for [ __ ] like that when the word package PA is in front of the quarterback that mean he ain't starting quarterbacks run plays not packages hey I mean let the kid just sit and develop literally signed a oneyear free deal you know what I'm saying like why I don't understand why they keep pushing this issue let the boy develop he got time he's not going to be all old and [ __ ] next year he can start next year that boy gonna be 25 years old man you know what I'm saying he can start next year the boy gonna be 25 years old man come on I told you man they want the people to fail man they want them to fail and they ain't doing shut the [ __ ] up that's why he's in the position he's in now right because they they didn't he needed to develop he only had one year and and and who was he gonna be taught from in Chicago see who did they have before him that was gonna teach him how to be a actual quarterback nobody that's the point got some they could have got a journeyman to play for a year while he sat down and watched how the NFL works for real and didn't they get the Red Rifle he was like yeah no that ain't it but it's a complete indictment on Russell they [ __ ] on Russell Wilson at every step they get which I completely believe wholeheartedly that him and Shawn Payton just didn't mix you know what I mean and he still got better you know statistically throughout the year I had the dude in fantasy and I did pretty freaking well with Russell Wilson in Denver so why the fact they keep on [ __ ] on this dude like he ain't going like he's completely washed now I think that's bogus you know what I mean so it's so irritating but let that boy develop lrp I got two people right now what that I believe is about to shock the world and people gonna recognize and hop right back on the situation so I'mma tell yall right now Russell Wilson and Deshawn Watson I'm telling y' what it is right right now when they go out there and act a fool and remind everybody who they were okay okay I I don't want to hear no [ __ ] don't even draft Deshawn Watson in fantasy they sure I know I didn't undra I know he I think I know he do he just yo he needed that year to get back into foot ball mentality and to get rid of all that [ __ ] in his background he's a 25 26 year old kid that [ __ ] is a lot to be going to court to get a year suspension from the NFL to go that shit's TW breaking you down man let's stop forgetting how young these kids are man like that [ __ ] breaks you down man nothing feels the same pause tastes the same you don't enjoy life the same like you don't like you've been through some [ __ ] he needed that now he can focus on football that [ __ ] is a year removed don't nobody even talk about massages no more but don't you think it's funny I'm I'm G play uh conspiracy theorist for a while like black don't you think it's funny that at the peak of Deshawn Watson when he was playing for the Houston Texans y'all remember at one point he was the highest paid quarterback in the NF right when he signed a contract with Houston right after he signed that contract all this other all this [ __ ] came out he didn't want to play for them no more they was racist all this [ __ ] came out then all the [ __ ] came out with the with with the massages and all that [ __ ] which I think Houston put out there y so it's like and he was balling kid was balling man now imagine if none of that came out and he was still playing for Houston he would be one of the the the the top quarterbacks in NFL right now right God damn it we paid for the massages I don't understand who leaked the information all that [ __ ] started with for it we paid the bill right same thing happened with um Michael Vic right Michael Vic at one time Michael Vic was the highest paid quarterback in the NFL then all that [ __ ] with the dog came out and he went to [ __ ] jail now imagine and he was balling at that time Milli 100 million they gave they came back and was like you know what 100 million that's how we looking at you right now I like that conspiracy theory right there so my question is this does the kid come back number one top five offensive line top 10 defense top five running back right if he you know borrowing his health we all know it takes a little minute to get acclimated again but at some point people forget that Shawn Watson was a top 10 quarterback in this league unquestionably he was acting up yo the quarterback that you say do the receiver make him or do he make the receivers he made his [Music] receivers so I believe he stays healthy I already got us losing to them I just need y'all to know that when when do we play them um uh I think in November I think in November sometime I can tell you right now cuz I got us losing that's a well balanced breakfast over there that's that's different week three we play on September 22nd oh yeah see we early in the game I got I got us taking the lb slide to that I to know all right we don't we still don't got a chance but damn I'm just I'mma just say this gota go against chub listen to me very carefully miles Garrett is gonna show Andrew Thomas with fighting on every snap means he is a demonic attack it's different over there it's different over there hey they got Jerry Judy over there now yeah yeah with Amari Cooper oh man yeah it's yeah it's a problem yeah it's I'm also looking at J J this year too that dude he should definitely be a problem on the defensive side this man Jrock games we going up against top level receivers and and guess what damn I'm I'm telling you what we're gonna do because Bowen runs a three safety scheme that boy is play center field for the first three games Newan is going to play center field do you hear me for the first three games no question about it and he's going to line up two safeties in between 10 to 15 yards and Newan is going to be behind 20 to 25 yards depth you're gonna it's going to look like an eye formation on on defense watch I'm telling you cuz he's not going to want nothing to beat him deep for and he's going to try to keep everything in front of him so the pass rush can actually hit home I want to see how the Cowboys play the Browns because I think the I think the Browns beat the Cowboys even though hell yeah I think we beat the Cowboys twice they ain't nowhere near the same that offensive line is nowhere near offensive anymore yeah I think the Cowboys take a step back this year I'm staying firm on that um before the season starts Cowboys take a step back commanders take a step forward they offense took a bad hit Jayden Daniel's gonna have to make up for a lot of that receiving core and Brian Thomas Brian I'm sorry Brian Robinson is gonna have to do a lot he gonna be yo he's gonna be a security blanket that's why I chose him rookie quarterback yeah got from from the Chargers that [ __ ] is old as [ __ ] did you see the meme about him did y did you see the meme about him I'mma go find send it to yall yo do y'all remember hold on this tell me if y'all remember this so they made um a veteran it was a veteran a football veteran and it was flag football he was 90 years old he was an Air Force vet and they let him run to the end zone and they acted like they couldn't tackle him did y'all remember that y'all saw that Meme no okay so I'll send y a meme and somebody said this is Austin ecka for Comm sh so he's a 90 year old dude and it's taking him like eight seconds a piece to just get five yards and everybody around him is falling on the ground making it seem like they can't tackle him and only his offensive linemen are like waving him into the end zone like come on come on come on but everybody's falling on purpose and they have to be extra slow so they don't hit him right because he's like 990 something so it took him like 30 seconds just to get like 25 yards they said this is Austin ecka for the commanders I'm G send it to y' that [ __ ] is crazy shakes in the building what's going on shakes I made it I didn't think I was gonna make it one minute before the broadcast fact I made it that's what's up bro just in time for the closing you goodbye oh man it's Football week man football you know y'all talk about these college kids though right y'all CLA some without me I got children I got children that came into the season before the season even started I claim children before the season even started so you just gotta go through who's who I got like five new kids you feel me that I seen over the weekend I'll let y'all know tomorrow who they is yeah I make sure that whoever you claim I ain't involved that's we'll go over that tomorrow and I will be here tomorrow all right no doubt no doubt got some good cookout food know me tummy keep it real with you I don't know how I feel about that just now but we'll talk about that off here a grown man popping his stomach like that while we alive got I got things to say cuz I love you that's kind of crazy but we gonna keep the show rolling absolutely shakes I got one question for you even though you on strike and you ain't watching not one snap of Giants football for 17 weeks because we ain't gonna see you till January how many points if you just was to say in your mind just to answer the question are the New York football Giants going to average this year just just because I know you ain't watching them and you just like you know what they ain't gonna average [ __ ] or whatever you say I'm not talk did he just drop yeah he did see that's cool going on stri already he wanted to talk about college he a even thinking about we are way P the man came in one minute to the exit Zone I know I know I'm just teasing same um we go ahead close out for the people man as we get on up out of here don't drop off same you got to unmute yourself bro probably God he yes sir you sneaking cut yeah you sound low you sound Low Like You the basement y can hear me yeah you good bro bro there you go all right excuse me man my [ __ ] cutting out um thank you everybody for supporting the show coming D um shout out to Shay Montana shout out to um black freezy um Black Rock Productions the whole Shakedown crew wrench gang and everybody that show love to the crew man we really appreciate y'all man you have a good night we back at it tomorrow man peace same but different yall know what time it is New York to CT representation in the building shouts out to two giant goofballs appreciate you chiming in you a't miss nothing brother we just you know you've been in the in the room for a couple of minutes now I think it was more so just a playing around but either way either chose one from the Bronx you up next bro yo yes sir yall know what time it is man great show we always say that but um you know most of the time it is a great show so without saying anything else Dam it took our friend all right I think it's just bouncing around you know what I mean pter is just making out to me bro pause took e to they took my yo my joint did some freaky [ __ ] too pause but I'm like yo how does that was crazy it just said I thought I lost power or something like what the hell lights are still on but yeah the guys Bo got yeah but all right I go ahead and took um he'll come back but uh still time bro yeah I mean [ __ ] are scared see about to see these bum ass Giants with these bum ass results a whole lot of freaky [ __ ] going on yeah I'm not um we gonna see you know we play Sunday week and um I ain't got much man appreciate everybody uh chiming in tuning in subscribe download you know Spotify all the places where you check out podcast look for the Shakedown Sports podcast on YouTube Shakedown media Network you know what I mean tell everybody to subscribe and uh I go ahead relinquish the rest of my time to the brother shakes and Jrock as they take it away it closes out appreciate everybody timing in in the chat as well love y'all yeah man I appreciate everybody for coming out man spending these two hours with us man we appreciate it we'll be back tomorrow um I don't know when you want to start it shakes but when you want to do the pick thems Fridays or like we usually did it Wednesday Wednesday oh yeah now we got Thursday and Friday night games hell yeah damn yo football start yeah we got I gotta talk about that I gotta talk about that Wednesday all right so Wednesdays is pick them so if y'all want to get in on that pick thems you on the live show on Wednesdays man it adds you to the list that's all I got man I'm out just real quick I don't want to interrupt nobody but y y' can hear me okay thank you bro thank you you good all right go ahead now um in those pick Man live show or uh you know just send me your uh pics whether it's DM on Twitter uh where else you can find me at Facebook in whatever you I mean send me your pcks I'll put you in there and then we'll put up the results every week just like we do every year every season also fantasy uh results we'll be going over them this year as well so y'all stay tuned we got a lot in store for y'all man lot of more lot more definely my kids bro got more kids on in store for y'all I got two new quarterbacks y'all we gonna talk about it we gonna talk about better not try me I'm G tell you that right now you better not try me little days I'mma catch body me [ __ ] around I'mma catch your body and I ain't playing with nobody don't try me Shas that's all I'm say trying to don't be trying to invest the [ __ ] gave you the briefcase and you pushed it back I gave you the briefcase we keep [ __ ] live sh y he wild yo this budy shake that who is Boo [Music]