Roger Grillo - USA Hockey Player Development

and and I think selfishly from a USA Hockey standpoint part of the reason why we want to be involved with this group um and you guys have representation on on our uh National calls is is we're just trying to build a larger pool of elite athletes that can help us win gold medals on both the men's and women's side and you guys have your hands on the best players in Minnesota and so if we can just give you a couple of things to maybe think about or stimulate some thought when it comes to Player Development my my title is I'm director of Player Development for USA Hockey so I'm kind of all over the place I work with our top players I work with our youngest kids I work with coaches I work with parents uh it's it's it's the the job is kind of pretty diverse but the op optimal goal of it is to just make help players get better and and help our coaches and parents understand what does that look like because I can tell you um growing up out here uh it it there was a lot of things that that that went well but Goldie hit on it yesterday and and I think it it it it goes along with this this phrase right here is things have changed and things have changed dramatically when it comes to Sports Science and and how you approach Player Development and I've talked to this group uh not all of you but a good portion of you either on zooms or in person like this this and I would tell you when it comes to Player Development I think the physical aspect of Player Development is the easiest part right and it was funny cuz I talked to Nick after um and he was showing all those clips and and he goes I hope they understand that the practice ones are the most important ones and and he firmly believes that right he firmly believes that what allows his players to execute what happens in the game is what happens in practice right but if we don't evolve if we if we don't if we don't constantly reach out it's really interesting because I'm on the board of American Hockey coaches association and I've been part of that board I coached division one college hockey for 20 years and um when we would do presentations we'd have people come and speak down in Naples Florida you're talking about 500 coaches men's women's division one division three all the club teams I mean it's a room just filled with coaches and you look out there and I had presented a couple times to that group and it's very intimidating but when you look out there it's really interesting when you see Jerry York in the front row with a notepad and doesn't miss a single meeting the winning is coach in all of college hockey maybe that's why right you know you see coach right here he's always in the front he's always taking notes like it's it it's really really critical I think to understand that part of development is all of our responsibility because I think back to myself as a young head coach in college hockey and I cringe I absolutely cringe especially with what I know now and if I could go back and redo it again holy cow I think I'd be that much better that much better but just to evolve just to kind of understand that there's there's other ways to skin the cat right I think it's really important to understand the modern game it's changed a lot right and we know it goes up all of you guys played you think back to what how we played and it and it's not just the skill level it's not just the pace it's not just the size of the athletes but it's the mindset how the game's coached how the gamees played at the higher levels right and if I showed you clip after clip this would have been probably my era right we just no thought about the puck no thought about you know uh uh my responsibility as a player on the ice was I was going to intimidate I was going to finish my check and right and now you see the modern game with a guy like LC who gets in takes away the hands takes the puup and sets up a goal right 20 years ago he would have ran that guy through the boards so how the game is evolved from a physical standpoint is one and how important the stick has become how critical stick details become right and you watch the guys that play last night you know Army and and North Dakota and then you go watch NHL practice or even an AHL practice I was just I was just with the Milwaukee Admirals three days ago before I came up here and watching their their pro athletes how they can catch a puck on their backhand in stride like that stick detail and not just with the puck but the stick detail without the puck and we'll talk about that a little bit later right and then when you think about how the games you involved positionally and Dane Jackson talked about it I could show you clip after clip after clip NHL of almost 10 guys in onethird of the rink 10 players there's eight players right now in the pitcher in oneir of the rink talking about numbers around the puck talking about play off the puck how we swarm all of the decisions all the reads all the stuff that Nick was just talking about when he showed you those clips right and why those drills he showed at the end were so critical to understanding when I go where I go how I go because I can tell you right now if you're the person that's deciding for your athletes when they go where they go how they go you're not developing players they're just doing what you're telling them to do and that's a big difference because you can't tell them what to do in game practice you can be there but in game time you got to hey game is players that's their world practice is our world world as coaches but so how you run your practices what you allow your players to do when it comes to making decisions right and that ability to kind of see that is really really critical I wanted to I wanted to to to to stay on this theme right here on not just positional play defensively but now positional play offensively so you get two defenseman below the hash marks one's passing to the other one to set up the goal right and and I think about when I played you know played High School hockey out here for phenomenal coaches but there was you know I'm going to cover the far post and I got a flashlight in my in my butt and I'm I'm going to cover the far post I'm the left e i Ain I'm not going anywhere near the corner over there on the other side of the Ring right I'm going to the blue line if I drift in and I God forbid I give up that Breakaway or that two on one cuz our mindset as coaches always goes to how do I make sure we don't get scored against but the modern thinking coaches think about how am I going to score goals we you may give up three but how do I get four right because the defensive side of the game is the easiest part to coach the offensive side of the game is really difficult extremely difficult it was interesting because I was able to coach uh a couple of the kids that played for North Dakota the one kid his first game last night I got a chance to talk to him yesterday at the ring leanovich that a little defenseman number four and he's super super creative and and I talk to Brad he's super excited about the kid he's on the second power play already and just watching him play play he's going to give you some heartburn you got to almost watch him with one eye covered sometimes but man when you do see him with two eyes there's some special stuff happening there right there's some really special stuff happening there and how do we create that mentality how do we allow that culture and environment to get into our particularly our practice environment right I think the other thing and probably the most important thing for me and for us at USA hockey is what does practice look like you got guys and and and Mike sne said it yesterday Minnesota has by far the best culture we have in the United States when it comes to development by far it's not even close I live out east I left Apple Valley Minnesota and went to the University of Main and I stayed out east uh ever since and um I can tell you that that the numbers he he threw up there are exactly right and and part of the reason why you guys have a great environment particularly in high school hockey is your models very similar to the college model where you you have your two games a week but you've got your four practices a week for five and I can tell you the kids at the same age that you're coaching out east and I was just with the tier one organization the junior Admirals in Milwaukee they're lucky if they get two practices a week now think about that two practices a week at the age of 15 16 17 that's a death nail Player Development is not happening just not happening but I would say to you the challenge I would throw to you from USA hockey and as a former Minnesotan is don't just rely on your culture because you have a great culture how do we take it a step further right you guys have 64 players in the NHL with about 50,000 kids playing youth hockey Sweden's got3 with about 41,000 kids playing youth hockey Finland with about 12,000 fewer kids in playing in Minnesota has the same exact number playing in the NHL as Minnesota why why is that not that they do things spectacularly well they have to be like that they have to be like that why do they have to be like that because they're playing against the United States Canada Russia we have millions of people we have money we have facilities if they're going to compete with us and International play in the Olympics World Junior world at under 18s they have to be so good at Player Development so what do they do at the age of 14 they get eight practices a week not two not four they're doubling up right before school and after school and their practices are geared towards in the morning individual Player Development in the evening team Concepts right so think about that that over a four or 5 year period you're going to make hockey players it's it's it's not it's not a secret recipe the more emphasis I put on practice the better my practices are the more quality I put in that that Arena the better my players are going to get right and I mentioned this I think to you guys last year and I still stand by this and I think it's cuz I'm talking from experience for myself when you get mad at them on Saturday or Friday evening or Thursday night depending on when you play because of the mistakes they make or because of some of their habits I challenge you to look at yourself first and say is it the players or is it me cuz I can guarantee you as I travel around the world and I evaluate practice with some of the best coaches in the world even some of the best coaches in the world some of the small details that they miss in practice because their mindset when I go to the ring for practice is I'm running practice right and when you run practice when you're in the woods sometimes you don't see the trees because you're right in the middle of the battle you're blowing the whistle you're moving the puck you're concerned about all the stuff you're trying to watch everything it's almost impossible so what you're allowing to happen in your practice over and over over and over again is that actually coming back to haunt you in the game Daye and I can tell you absolutely 100% yes and so the challenge I throw to you you guys as coaches is what does your practice look like right and so does your practice look like the first two or does your practice look like the thir because I can tell you right now the first two are pretty darn easy I can probably pull it off right I'm not a Jiu-Jitsu guy but I some coach could tell me hey get in there keep your head up grab it the waist turn and flip but if the guy wants to push back now what do I do now I've just elevated so I would say to you that if true player development's happening you got to be number three as much as you can and that's what Nick was talking about with his drills the five elements of a good practice fun and I can tell you this we've done a lot of research on fun fun is not what you think it is when we ask kids and have done research on fun there's a thing called Fun maps that one of our co-workers was a part of the research at the University level the number one thing for fun is competition kids love to compete so if I can put them in game likee situations where there's constant decision making right where there's challenge where there's touches and there's fun those five elements player developments exploding right and so I challenge you to get to this third one as often as you can because otherwise you're determining when why and how and when you determine that Player Development plateaus along with that I would challenge you to reflect after every practice if I went back and I was coaching full-time there's a couple things that I would do one I would have somebody on my staff or or a friend or somebody come or I would go back with the video stuff that we have now in rinks and I would evaluate my own practice cuz I have a I have a focus for that day and I think I delivered it but do I know I delivered it how do I know that I activity track my practice how many touches did they get how many decisions that they have to make right how much feedback was each player got given how much skating did they get how much activity did they get how much board time was there a good friend of mine I've mentioned him before to uh to all a lot of you Marty St Louis I coached him I've known him since he was 15 he a head coach of Canadians I talk Marty into putting in a system into their practice facility and I said don't do it for the players don't evaluate the players in practice evaluate yourself evaluate your coaches figure out if what you're doing is actually going to have a positive impact on game day go back and reflect challenge yourself how are you getting bet how are you we at we we we expect our players to give us certain amount of everything and every day step on the ice for practice what about us what's our responsibility and who's judging that I would I would activity track every one of my practices to and if my focus that day was on defensive Concepts I can change these categories explanation skating passing shots fck handling coaching feedback I can change these to whatever I want on a given day based on what I'm trying to deliver on that day special teams whatever it is whatever the concept or the theme of that day's practice is did I actually deliver that or did I just check a box and now I feel better because as the coach I think I maybe that was my team for today and then I get mad at them on Saturday because they're not doing it right or it didn't work well if I go back and look at practice how was it working there did we attack it properly right the other thing I would do and Goldie kind of talked about it yesterday a little little bit is I would have a touches chart because what I found if I look back the amount of feedback my top players God was sometimes too much were we in the faces of our top players too often and how about those kids that are on the fourth line how about our backup goal tender who's having conversations about with him who's talking to him talk let's think about what Brian Riley talked about which maybe been the most important message the entire weekend who's having conversations about their well-being about their family are we getting to all of our athletes consistently and I would tell you probably if you go back and look at it probably not nearly enough and maybe some kids too much and I guarantee you the players know that they know the head coach talked to so and so and so and so every day this week I haven't heard from the head coach in a month where does that put me emotionally and mentally so I would have a touches chart I would have something like this where me and my assistants and other staff members hey who did you talk to today let's just write it down on a sheet let's make sure we're getting to everybody every week okay really important stuff really really important stuff I wanted to get into a little bit of practice stuff now and and Nick talked about it today but when I go back to this is it the players or is it the coaches and I think about this compared to this right and I think about this and all the stuff that's so critical to running a quality program when it comes to Player Development what does that look like and so I was fortunate enough I shared some videos I think with you guys in the past to last year last they would have been just about 3 weeks ago last year with the University of Nebraska Omaha and I ran 4 days of practices for and we videotaped all of it so that we could use it for stuff like this and so I just did a bunch of bunch of games a bunch of things that Force those five elements fun constant decision making game like situations challenges and touches right so little game I like to move the nets for to me two variables that are really important for you in practice is space and time time space and time okay because if I go back to this and I run a three on two that lasts for 30 seconds and then I get mad on Saturday because nobody wants to attack the front they'll go on a two-on one or a three on two and they'll spin themselves in the corner you're like why didn't somebody attack the middle why didn't somebody go to the net well because coach you give us 30 seconds to practice and we know we have time it's your fault not mine a sense of urgency right how do we get that sense of urgency we put time limits on things right and we change the spacing the reason for me to move the Nets once in a while is so that they can't CH they can't cheat spacing because a lot of our players go to the top of the circle they go to the blue line they go to the Gold Line they go to the hash mark they use the markings they cheat spacing the spacing isn't a read the spacing is how far away am I from my opponent where's my teammates where's the puck I'm going to cheat spacing based on the markings of the ice right and we know that that's not going to work in a game cuz the top of the circle doesn't score a goal top of the circle is not going to make a pass to me I'm not supporting the top of the circle I'm supporting their teammate right so this is just a little game three on three in the middle players for the The Blue Team on the outside players for the red team on the outside you can only have the puck on your stick for a second and I got a coach over here with a pile of pucks and my two favorite words which you guys have heard before is new Puck cuz if you break a rule I'm taking the puck away from you okay I'm taking the puck away from you it's not I'm not going to let you do something I know is not going to be beneficial to you or us over and over and over again I'm going to yell a new Puck because 98% of the games played without the puck and if you aren't good at getting it back you're useless you're useless so if I'm going to run a power play drill I'm not giving the power play the puck I'm going to give the penalty Killers the puck and I'm going to make the power play get it back and then we'll get into our format then we'll get into our movement because retrievals in the game of ice hockey is everything right now that's another opportunity that's effort that's hard work you want to build that culture you want to build culture of hard work and effort in your practice and I'm going to jump ahead it's never your turn in hockey it's never your turn to have the buck best thing about the sport it's not like basketball every team scores oh it's our turn we get the ball football all the other team scored we get the ball hockey other team scores you got to win it you got to earn it but so many of our practices the blue team scored so red team sah turn to get the P oh we're going to work on the power play power play makes a bad play makes a bad read forces a bad play you know Johnny hockey's out there he's trying to tow somebody somebody pokes out the stick P Hill gets it oh give it back to Johnny hockey who's the problem Johnny hockey or or us the coach right and so I want you to really think about that as you as you design these practices but here we go it's a little three on three right players on the outside can't be pressured players on the outside can't can't shoot they can pass the puck up and down the line right and Red's working this way Blues working this way is that a goalie out there it's a goalie playing so Chris talked to you the other day right I was fortunate enough I I really fortunate in college hockey to have some phenomenal goal he's probably the best one was Timmy Thomas and I we made Timmy do everything in practice if we played a game we had a third College you have the benefit of a third sometimes four goalies now so why would you have them standing off the side they're going to compete they're going to be in the line moving the puck and they're going to compete they're going to play they're going to skate they're going to have some fun right so those five elements for your goal tenders are just as important as the five elements for your players and so the rule is you you have to you have to use it's all play off the puck if I have it I got to get it to somebody and I got to get open to get back right it's it's not to play with the puck 99% of the games played without the puck yet 99% of our feedback to our players is what they do with a puck think about that think about all the drills you do all the times you go to talk to a kid give them feedback it's usually what they did with the puck was their decision with the puck right but yet that's only 2% of the game so how are we making hockey players if we're not giving them Fe back on what they do or force them to play off the puck the art of coaching handicap your best players you got your top players in practice don't let them go one-on-one against the weager kid they can go one against two make your best players play without the puck make them play off the puck make them earn the puck back now you really cuz cuz you know a super skilled player he's got great hands great feet but doesn't compete and doesn't play hard off the puck that's going to drive you nuts but are you creating that player through how you run your practices and all your all the the feedback and the coaching you do it's just a fun game but here's the beauty of this how do you evolve this to make it cuz to me practice needs to be emotionally and mentally uncomfortable if it's not uncomfortable for your athletes there's no Player Development happening they've already got the answers to the test you you got to get them out of their comfort zone and and so how do you do that this is kind of easy because I could I could be reinforcing a really bad habit here anybody have any idea based on the format of the drill what bad habit could I be forcing with players with the puck and players off the puck how can they cheat the system anybody have a thought if I'm The Blue Team where do I know my blue players are side they're on my left side cuz I'm going this way so if I have the puck what can I do with it if I'm under duress I can throw it to the left side of the rink I don't have to look I don't have to pick my head up the player on the left side of R doesn't have to move to support it I know I got a bail out on the left side right so I'm forcing a blind pass I'm forcing just a bailout so how do I solve that problem I tagger one red one blue one red one blue one red one blue so I'm not the problem so now I got to pick my head up and I space those guys out I got to pick my head up and find my teammate I can't just throw it to a spot that's what I'm talking about when I'm talking about who's the problem cuz some of the drills we do some of the things we do actually Force the wrong thing to happen we just don't we haven't thought about it right any questions and off this format you can do this a million different ways you can make it bigger space you can make a smaller space everybody's involved in the in the drill right there's nobody that's in line or waiting I let them play for about 20 30 seconds the red team they bail out and go here the next we jump in and the only time there's any kind of change or anything is new Puck and that's when the puck misses the net somebody overh handles somebody misses a pass on the outside and when when I I give my instructions to the coaches if we throw a new Puck out we're probably going to throw it to somebody in line who's not paying attention and I'm going to give the puck to the team that was on defense not on offense punishment in my practice is if you do things wrong and you don't work hard and you don't execute you have to defend that's your punishment I'm taking the puck away the reward for hard work good decisions good execution is you get offensive opportunities so a little one-on-one think about all the one-on ones we do think about the reads and decisions Chris goal tending coach from army yesterday talked about hockey IQ for and yet do we do things where they're forced to make reads or is the shooting that we're doing is already a predetermined pattern they know where the shots coming from they know who's going to shoot it so they don't have to make a read so they're just going to get out of their they're they know where they're going to go before the shots 10 seconds before the shots even going to happen right and so a little oneon-one and so these guys are going to play a little pass these guys are going to play a little pass first whistle these guys are going to attack second whistle these guys are going to attack nobody knows who's on offense nobody knows who's on defense especially the goal wi it's Whoever has the puck when the whistle blows and then you got to read off that right so that's how we're going to do our one-on-one down low so these guys are passing whistle blows red had it he's on the inside much different if the puck was on the outside these guys are passing whistle blows they don't know who has it now they got to read off of it and I can go to three on three I can go to four on four I can go to five on five but nobody knows who's on defense nobody knows who's on offense and the patterns change now the beauty of this the beauty of this is I can have them set up like they are now I can have one kid facing the boards one kid facing out I can have them this way I can have a guy here I can have a guy here I can do this any way I want but it's not the setup it's not the drill it's the mindset that I'm not determining who's on offense and defense the players have to read based on the situation I'm giving them responsibility of reads to everybody the goenda it okay because often times we do one-on ones or Do's a the predetermined defense def predetermined offensive player predetermined space and it only gets you so far because we know in the game of ice hockey that that is constantly changing secondly if you're going to do possession I'm going to take what Nick talked about and take it a step further if you're going to do possession if you're going to do some type of owning the puck winning the puck at some point you have to have an objective of where you're trying to go with it and that's the net or a Target because otherwise I'm the problem as the coach cuz what I do I force players to learn how to use bad ice they'll cycle themselves in the corner all day to keep possession but there's got to be a purpose to get to the net there's got to be a purpose to get somewhere because when I put in a purpose to get to a tire or to get to a net or a scoring objective that changes the defensive mindset and that changes the off offensive mindset and it changes all the play off the puck CU my responsibility offensively is to run routes and I run routes for two reasons one is to support Puck and two to draw people out of the good space to pull Defenders out that's why movement off the pocket and routes are so critical but if I don't if I play keep away or it's just possession in a space I force turn my back keep it over here here spin in the corner all day and as an offender I'm going to go go ahead spin yourself to death you're going to get a little bit tired I'm going to force you I'm going to take away your hands like luk just did and we're going the other way and I got you on the back side of me right so think that just little stuff like that I think is really important talking about stick detail earlier I want you to think about how do we work on again a oneon-one how how do we work on spacing the Gap how do we work on surfing how do we work on our defenseman one of my former players the assistant coach of the Admirals he's their defensive coach and he was talking about surfing he was talking about how he wants to get his defenseman yeah she this kid played with Yosi um how do I get defenseman to think about defending going forward right how do I get on top of people how do I how do I constantly play on top of people cuz and I thought Army did a really good job last night especially in the first they were on top of North Dakota like they they smothered them they were on top of them early and North Dakota couldn't handle it like they they kind of melted down a little bit there early in the game and they kind of got that Gap that opening for about five minutes and then then the floodgates opened up which was what Brian was worried about yesterday when he was here but how do we get on top of people in practice right and so this is a simple little drill we have a pile of Puck pile of pucks the fenders offensive player doesn't matter what could be this could be a defenseman this could be a forward doesn't matter coach says go they esap to a line which is drawn right here and then they turn back to either pile right if I determine you're going to go to the one pile now all the patterns all the angles is determined by me cuz what you want this player to learn how to do is deception I'm going to sell some misinformation so I can create some Gap offensively for myself this player's got to read and read the right information he's got to read toes he's got to read hips he's got to read shoulders stick and now he's got to get up on top of that player but he's going to use his stick to cut the rink in half and force the player to the bad ice which is what Nick was talking about this morning okay now this little drill can progress from just a one-on-one I always like to add another player here who's an outlet for the offensive player because I also want to see my Defender play defense off the puck not just on the puck okay so whistle blows down stop get up stick one on one now new Puck new Puck and they can go to either pile again got a close now Puck goes out shot box out use your stick to defend keep the player to the outside how do I defend somebody when they're backs to really hard to do in today's game you can't do like that one clip I showed you be R the boards right you got to contain you got to wait till you can get to their hands so I can progress this little drill from this little one-on-one to an outlet to a two on two to a three on two I can do whatever I want off this but here's the key spacing and time spacing and time I'm only going to let this go for a little bit cuz I don't want my offensive player to think they can just turn their back and spin themselves you know to bad ice and I also want my Defender to try to win the game so every drill we do the defender wins the puck if they get it to coach then they win the drill right always allow the defensive side of the game to win the drill as well really critical piece I talked about this already it's never your turn in hockey can you do more things where it's your you have to earn that opportunity right I want you to watch this clip and I'll talk about the drill itself after but I want you to watch one of these players from let me pick them out here so it's a little power play game I'll talk about the game in a second don't focus on the game right now I want you to focus on this wait got to let this play out a little bit it's it's actually not this clip it's the next clip my B so it's one of the red kids coming out here and like I said I'll go back and talk about the game in a second but the rule is one of the the penalty killing team the four red are trying to get the puck and get it back to a teammate back here but watch I think it's this young man here he ends up getting the puck but the rule is the puck has to go across the goal line to your teammate you can't just throw it it's got to be a good place so if he wins it he does his Johnny hockey thing right comes all the way down here keeps coming keep keeps coming keeps coming throws it down but blue turns it over before it gets to the goal line now look what he does he comes right over to me he's all upset because he still got to defend right look at him he's completely disengaged he's still yelling at me I had the puck I had the puck he's completely giving up he gives up a goal he's still yelling at me he's still upset he's coming over here he's like well I I I have I'm like no no no no it's not your turn son you have to get the puck over the goal line that's the rule so my point is when you he does that he takes a penalty right so he just exacerbates everything because emotionally he was a mess the same practice I ran I told the red team I told the red team before we started practicing said I want you to all to know I'm going to cheat for The Blue Team today they like what do you mean I go I'm going to cheat I'm going to make a bad call I'm going to give them a goal I'm going to do something to benefit the blue team and the same kids like didn't understand it so we're playing another game and I made a call I said as a penalty give the pl to The Blue Team he lost his mind and now the head coach of the the team's looking at me I'm like this is exactly why you have to do this stuff in practice you have to make your players uncomfortable emotionally and mentally it's got to be safe it's got to be positive and the other players are laughing they're giggling cuz they know they they they know that this kid is the one kid that if somebody gives him a tap on the back of the the calf or gives him a little says something to him he's going to lose his mind and take a stupid penalty but you got to deal with that in practice otherwise it comes back to haunt you in the game and you got to deal with it and deal with it not going to bail him out I'm going to make his teammates teach him that listen I'm sick of Defending I'm sick of having to do this because of you smarting up let's get this thing going right so the game itself okay is got a one team here one team here the Nets are up again because especially on power play penalty kill I find players spacing is a mess like their spacing is a mess um and partly because of the the zone right so Blue's on PK I think I've showed you guys this before but Blue's on PK Red's on power play Blue's got a fifth player down here behind the goal line and the rule is cuz we want to work on retrievals we want to work on retrievals if the puck is shot misses the net or blue gets it instead of firing it down the ice they're going to give it back now the reward for hard work good decision making good execution is an opportunity to be in a power play so everybody's going to get power play time everybody's going to get penalty field time when I was coaching College hockey I'd have all my power plays in one color and my other guys on the other color and usually inevitably the other color was always better in the power play cuz they were going to say hey coach watch this you don't think I can play on the power play I'm going to show you I can play in the power play we used to work on pulling the goal this same exact drill too six on five point but the rule is when the puck goes back and gets over the goal line because we want these guys to hunt the puck until it's over the goal line if it gets over the goal line the player here and I can put any rule I want I can say hey three guys have to get back inside the top of the circle you can stretch one guy we can you can change the format any way you want work work on your power play break out the punishment for the red team to be make a turn the puck over is they've got a change the next four players come out to kill and the fifth player for them goes behind the goal line so you go from penalty kill win the puck reward power play Bad turnover other team wins it punishment I'm out of the game the next time I come in I'm coming in on the defensive side of the game so it's never my turn I have to earn my turn on the power and you can just see it as it plays out right now Red's on power play Blue's going to turn it over and give it back to their fifth guy even if a missed shot by the net goes all the way down it's a turnover and you can see the spacing and how they learn how to read the spacing from their teammates so now blue performs a breakout they set up and then this is when the Meltdown happens you can see the players will figure out some of the like they're spacing like right now if blue doesn't if blue turns that over I can have a discussion with them on their spacing I can have a discussion with them on their playoff the puck I can have uh a discussion with them on movement right cuz they're standing still cuz there's there's no whistles there's no whistles in the game it's just constant transition anytime you play a game in practice or do some type of keep away try to force some type of transition okay make it take it you it's never your turn with the pock blue team scores they get the puck again we're not giving it to the red they got they got to win the puck right so just that mentality and practice I think is really critical that's my email address that's my cell phone number I'm I'm a I'm here to support if you want anything you want this you want to have a discussion I just I I was out a month ago and spoke to the um hockey directors for youth hockey in Minnesota they had a event down in Plymouth and I did a presentation um not quite like this but somewhat similar on Player Development and I told the associations if you want if you want to do a zoom call call me I've done three Zoom calls in the state with their entire association their coaches parents and players on Player Development if I can be of any help in any way you have a phenomenal human being out here as well as guy golin couldn't be here this weekend but goose is just an unbelievable person great hockey mind use him as a resource as well big time high school hockey fan all of you most of you know him um but we're here to help support we would love to see other parts of the country have what you have not that horse isn't going back in the barn unfortunately um but uh don't just rely on that be really good when you step through the door every day be the best you can be right I call it spinal tap make sure your amps go to 11 right an eight amp's good but 11's water that's what I was told anybody have any questions comments thoughts anybody have uh doesn't have to be about this be about anything some of our rules some you want to yell at me go ahead I wish you all the best great