Doris how will history treat him how will you treat him well I think history or me writing about him some years later it takes it takes a while I mean even right now as I'm saying the domestic accomplishments that he was able to achieve in a very closely divided Congress and he was able to go across party lines and make compromises that made the infrastructure possible expanding NATO and support for Ukraine will be viewed well in history again it will depend in part on what happens in this election if the person wins that he is supporting if if Paris were to win then that would give him a leg up I think he'll be remembered for having beaten Trump in 2020 and for you know for having if people believe that so save democracy it takes a while for presidents it takes Memoirs being written it takes time it makes light letters Diaries coming out to see what kind of a leader was he some of the qualities we know about leaders we've already seen in him but I I wish I could come back 50 years from now and I I'll tell you much more about how he's regarded than I can do today