Meet the Press NOW — Sept. 11

>>> NBC NEWS DAILY ON NBC NEWS NOW. >>> EVENTS WEDNESDAY, CLASSES, CONSPIRACIES, AND QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT COMES NEXT? A HISTORIC DEBATE LEAVES FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP . >>> HURRICANE FRANCINE STRENGTHENS AND SLAMS LOUISIANA. I HAVE THE STORM EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL NEAR NEW ORLEANS BRINGING FLASH FLOODING AND STORM SURGES TO MILLIONS. >>> THE ENDORSEMENT OF HARRISES WILDEST DREAMS, BROUGHT HER MORE THAN A QUARTER MILLION INSTAGRAM FOLLOWERS. TAYLOR SWIFT IS ENCOURAGING HER FANS TO VOTE IN NOVEMBER. >>> KRISTEN WELKER IN WASHINGTON. >>> THE POSSIBILITY OF ANOTHER DEBATE AFTER A HISTORIC FACE OFF THAT LEFT JUMP ALLIES UNDERWHELMED AND HARRIS. THE PRESIDENT AND THE VICE PRESIDENT. VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS APPEARED TO ACCOMPLISH HER GOAL OF GETTING UNDER HER RIVALS SKIN EARLY AND OFTEN. >> WHAT YOU WILL ALSO NOTICE IS THAT PEOPLE START LEAVING HIS RALLIES EARLY AND OFTEN. PEOPLE GET BORED. >> PEOPLE THAT DO GO, SHE IS PAYING THEM TO BE THERE. >> HAS NO PLAN FOR YOU BECAUSE HE IS MORE INTERESTED IN DEFENDING HIMSELF THAN HE IS LOOKING OUT FOR YOU. >> I WENT TO THE WHARTON SCHOOL OF FINANCE. MANY OF THE TOP PROFESSORS THINK THAT MY PLAN IS A BRILLIANT PLAN. WE HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HE'S ALIVE. >> IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMIND THE EX-PRESIDENT THAT YOU ARE RUNNING AGAINST ME. CLEARLY HE IS HAVING A VERY DIFFICULT TIME PROCESSING THAT. >> HE DELIVERED STRONG MOMENTS. THE POSTDEBATE REACTION FROM HIS ALLIES AND THE CANDIDATES DECISION TO APPEAR IN THE SPIN ROOM MADE IT CLEAR HE STRUGGLED BECAUSE HE REPEATED A NUMBER OF CONSPIRACIES. HE KEPT TURNING HIS ANSWERS TO EMIGRATION. HIS FOCUS WAS OVERSHADOWED BY RACIST CLAIMS OF IMMIGRANTS IN OHIO. >> THEY ARE EATING THE DOGS. THEY ARE EATING THE CATS. THEY ARE EATING THE PATS OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE. THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR COUNTRY. PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT MY DOG WAS TAKEN AND USED FOR FOOD. >> I'M NOT TAKING THIS FROM TELEVISION. I AM TAKING IT FROM THE CITY MANAGER. HE SAYS THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF THAT. VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS, I WILL LET YOU RESPOND. >> TALK ABOUT EXTREME. >> MR. TRUMP DOUBLE DOWN ON FALSE CLAIMS THAT HE WON THE 2020 ELECTION. HE DID NOT. >> ARE YOU ACKNOWLEDGING THAT YOU LOST IN 2020? >> I SAID THAT SARCASTICALLY. THERE IS SO MUCH FRUIT. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT IT AND THEY SHOULD HAVE SENT IT BACK TO THE LEGISLATOR FOR APPROVAL. THE MOST VOTES IN A SITTING PRESIDENT HAS EVER GOT. PEOPLE SHOULD NEVER THINK ABOUT AN ELECTION AS FRAUDULENT. >> VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS, WHILE DODGING KEY QUESTIONS ABOUT POLICY AND TIES TO BIDEN, FOCUSED ON ONE OF HER STRONGEST ISSUES, ABORTION. BACK AND FORTH, THE FORMER PRESIDENT CONTRADICT THE WHAT HIS RUNNING MATE SAID A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THAT HE WOULD VETO A NATIONAL ABORTION BAN. >> DONALD TRUMP CERTAINLY SHOULD NOT TELL A WOMAN WHAT TO DO WITH HER BODY. YOU WANT TO TALK -- THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE WANTED? PREGNANT WOMEN WHO WANT TO CARRY A PREGNANCY TO TERM, SUFFERING FROM A MISCARRIAGE. BEING DENIED CARE IN AN EMERGENCY ROOM BECAUSE HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS ARE AFRAID THEY MIGHT GO TO JAIL. SHE'S BLEEDING OUT IN THE PARKING LOT. SHE DID NOT WANT THAT. HER HUSBAND DID NOT WANT THAT. A 12 OR 13-YEAR-OLD SURVIVOR OF INCEST BEING FORCED TO CARRY A PREGNANCY TO TERM? THEY DON'T WANT THAT. >> I DID SOMETHING THAT NOBODY THOUGHT WAS POSSIBLE. THE STATES ARE NOW VOTING. WHAT SHE SAYS IS AN ABSOLUTE LIE. AS FAR AS THE ABORTION BAN, NO, I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF IT. IT DOESN'T MATTER. THE ISSUE HAS BEEN TAKEN OVER BY THE STATES. >> WOULD YOU VETO A NATIONAL ABORTION BAN? >> I DON'T HAVE TO BE >> JD VANCE SAID THAT YOU WOULD IF IT CAME TO YOUR DESK. >> I DID NOT DISCUSS THAT WITH HIM IN ALL FAIRNESS. >>> THE FORMER PRESIDENT CLAIMED VICTORY, CRITICIZED THE MODERATORS AND WAFFLED ON A SECOND DEBATE. THE VICE PRESIDENT SAID SHE STILL SEES HERSELF AS THE UNDERDOG. THE CAMPAIGN MADE IT CLEAR SHE WANTS A SECOND DEBATE. SHE ALSO RECEIVED A POSTDEBATE BOOST IN THE FORM OF A SURPRISE ENDORSEMENT FROM TAYLOR SWIFT. JOINING ME NOW ON SET, GARRETT HAAKE. THANKS TO YOU FOR STARTING US OFF. GARRETT, LET ME START WITH YOU. YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING YOUR SOURCES. WHAT DID THEY SAY? TRUMP IS SAYING THIS WAS HIS BEST DEBATE EVER. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING? >> PEOPLE ON HIS PAYROLL. THERE WERE MORE OPPORTUNITIES HE HAS HAD THAT HE WAS PREP FOR, TRYING TO TIE HARRIS TO BIDEN. HE DID NOT DO SO. INSTEAD HE CHASED SOME RABBITS ON CROWD SIZE OR PETS IN OHIO. WITH THAT SAID, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE DO NOT THINK IT MATTERS THAT MUCH AT THE MARGINS. THE ONUS WAS ON HARRIS TO INTRODUCE HERSELF. NOBODY IN THIS COUNTRY IS UNDECIDED ON DONALD TRUMP. THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST THEY COULD SAY. >> YOU ARE IN THE SPIN ROOM WHEN HE SURPRISE EVERYONE. IT FELT VERY 2016. WHAT WERE YOUR TAKEAWAYS? YOU ASKED HIM OFF THE BAT, IF YOU THOUGHT YOU DID SO WELL, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? >> RICK PERRY IN 2012, HE FORGOT THE THIRD AGENCY HE WANTED TO GET RID OF, HE KNEW HE NEEDED TO COME TO THE SPIN ROOM TO CLEAN UP THAT MESS. THAT IS WHY THEY COME TO THE SPIN ROOM. THAT'S THE FRAMEWORK THAT I LOOKED AT DONALD TRUMP'S APPEARANCE. HE FELT LIKE HE DIDN'T GET HIS MESSAGE ACROSS. IF YOU ARE DONALD TRUMP, THE SOLUTION TO ANY PROBLEM IS MORE DONALD TRUMP. HE THOUGHT HE COULD BE A BETTER SPINNER ON ANYBODY. >> WHAT ARE YOU HEARING ABOUT A POTENTIAL SECOND DEBATE? HE NOW IS INDICATING THAT MAYBE HE WILL? >> LAST NIGHT, NO. THIS MORNING, NO. THIS AFTERNOON, MAYBE. HE'S TALKING ABOUT BEING OPEN TO A DEBATE ON FOX NEWS. IF THERE IS A DEBATE AND HE'S BEING CALLED OUT FOR NOT ATTENDING -- IF HARRIS CAME OUT AND SAID THAT I AGREED TO DO A DEBATE ON ANY DAY, HE WOULD BE THERE. IT WOULD BE HARD TO KEEP HIM OFF THE STAGE IF IT IS SET. >> THAT IS A GREAT WAY. DO THEY REALLY WANT TO LET THE FINAL WORD BE LEFT WITH THE RUNNING MATE? WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN? SHE FEELS LIKE SHE HAD A VERY STRONG NIGHT. AT THE SAME TIME, SHE DIDN'T ANSWER KEY QUESTIONS ABOUT HER RECORD AND SOME OF HER SHIFTS OF POLICY AND HOW THE HARRIS ADMINISTRATION WOULD LOOK DIFFERENT FROM BIDEN'S. >> Reporter: THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN IS THRILLED BY HER PERFORMANCE LAST NIGHT. HER POST EARLIER ON SOCIAL MEDIA WAS THE DEBATE. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WATCH THIS. THEY FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT IT. THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS THAT REMAIN UNANSWERED IF YOU WANT TO DIG DOWN. SHE NEVER ANSWERS SPECIFICALLY WHETHER AMERICANS WERE BETTER OFF NOW THAN THEY WERE FOUR YEARS AGO. SHE DIDN'T SAY SPECIFICALLY WHAT SHE WOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY ON IMMIGRATION. SHE DIDN'T ANSWER WHETHER THE BIDEN/HARRIS ADMINISTRATION BEARS RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE U.S. CHAOTIC WITHDRAWAL FROM AFGHANISTAN THAT LEFT 13 AMERICAN SERVICEMEMBERS DEAD. THE BOTTOM LINE, THIS WAS AN INCUMBENT AGAINST THE CHALLENGER. THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN FEELS VERY SATISFIED THAT IN MANY WAYS SHE MADE IT A REFERENDUM ON DONALD TRUMP. TURNING THE PAGE WOULD BE TURNING THE PAGE ON HIM, NOT THE BIDEN/HARRIS ADMINISTRATION. THAT IS THE MESSAGE THEY HOPE RESONATES WITH AMERICANS. NOT EVERY AMERICAN VIEWS IT THIS WAY BUT SHE'S TRYING TO CAST HERSELF AS THE OUTSIDER. THE CHANGE AGENT IN THIS RACE. >> SHE IS. SOME EXTRAORDINARY OBJECTS TODAY. THE NATION MARKS THE 9/11 ANNIVERSARY. VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS, FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP, CAME FACE-TO- FACE AGAIN. IN NEW YORK. PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS THERE, AS WELL. THE OPTICS WERE INTERESTING BECAUSE YOU HAD HARRIS SHAKING DONALD TRUMP'S HAND FOR THE SECOND TIME IN AS MANY DAYS. ALSO, THIS REMINDER THAT SHE HAS SERVED WITH PRESIDENT BIDEN. YET, AS YOU POINTED OUT, TRYING TO DISTANCE HERSELF SO SHE CAN MAKE THAT CASE THAT SHE IS THE CHANGE CANADA. HOW CHALLENGING IS THAT? >> Reporter: THE HANDSHAKE TODAY, YESTERDAY WAS THE FIRST TIME THEY MET. THEY ONLY WAITED A MATTER OF HOURS TO SAY HELLO AGAIN. TODAY HE DESCRIBED AS POLITE. SHE'S TRYING TO SEPARATE HERSELF FROM JOE BIDEN, THAT REMAINS A CHALLENGE NO MATTER HOW SHE TRIES TO CAST IT. SHE SAID YOU ARE NOT RUNNING AGAINST JOE BIDEN, YOU ARE RUNNING AGAINST ME. SHE STILL IS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S. RIGHT NOW. SHE IS TRYING TO MAKE THIS ABOUT DONALD TRUMP AS IT IS ABOUT THE BIDEN/HARRIS RECORD. NOTABLY, BIDEN HAS NOT BEEN PUBLIC OTHER THAN ONE EVENT. SHE'S EFFECTIVELY CAMPAIGNING ON HER OWN THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE CAMPAIGN. SHE WILL BE IN NORTH CAROLINA TOMORROW. THEY WANT HER TO STAND ON HER OWN LEGS TO DEFINE TO AMERICANS WHAT A HARRIS PRESIDENCY WOULD LOOK LIKE AND HOW THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM A BIDEN PROTESTANT C -- PRESIDENCY? SHE HAS BEEN LESS PROGRESSIVE THAN HIM. SHE MOVED FURTHER TO THE MIDDLE THEN JOE BIDEN. THERE ARE SOME SHE'S TRYING TO LOCKSTEP LIKE FRACKING. >> ONE OF THE BIG QUESTIONS, WILL SHE DO -- GIVE A MORE DETAILED EXPLANATION FROM HOW SHE GOT FROM POINT A TO POINT B? WHAT IS THE STRATEGY FOR HER MOVING FORWARD? >> Reporter: WE WILL SEE HER ON THE ROAD. SHE WILL BE IN NORTH CAROLINA TOMORROW. BASED ON CONVERSATIONS I AM HAVING WITH ANALYSTS WHO WERE OBSERVERS OF POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS DATING DECADES, SHE GAVE HERSELF A STRONG FOUNDATION TO BUILD GOING FORWARD AS IT RELATES TO THIS CAMPAIGN. SHE DID NOT ANSWER EVERYTHING, CHIPS ACT, THE INFRASTRUCTURE SUCCESS OF THE HAYDN HARRIS ADMINISTRATION. BOTTOM LINE, THEY FEEL LIKE SHE SUCCEEDED TO COMMUNICATE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE COMPETENCY AND A VISION FOR THE FUTURE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STARTING US OFF ON A BUSY WEDNESDAY AFTER THE BIG DEBATE. I APPRECIATE IT. >>> LET'S DIVE DEEPER INTO ONE OF THE MOST TALKED ABOUT MOMENTS FROM LAST NIGHT. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP BASELESS CLAIMS THAT HAITIAN IMMIGRANT ARE EATING PETS IN OHIO. THE DEBATE SPIN ROOM, TRUMPS RUNNING MATE JD VANCE WAS ASKED ABOUT THOSE CLAIMS. TAKE A LOOK. >> Reporter: WHAT DO YOU SAY TO HAITIAN AMERICANS, IMMIGRANTS, SPREADING CLAIMS ABOUT THEM THAT COULD PUT THEIR LIVES AT RISK? >> NO ONE HAS SPREAD FALSE CLAIMS. WHAT THEY SAID, A SMALL MIGRANT COMMUNITY, 20,000, THAT SMALL MIGRANT COMMUNITY CAUSED A LOT OF PROBLEMS. HIGHER RATES OF DISEASES. IT HAS LED TO ANIMALS DISAPPEARING. MANY OF MY CONSTITUENTS SAID THAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING. HIGHER HOME PRICES. THAT IS A VERIFIABLE FACT. THE INFLUX HAS LED TO A LOT OF -- >> Reporter: YOU SAID THAT EMIGRANTS HAVE EATEN ANIMALS. THAT IS NOT TRUE. >> CITY OFFICIALS SAID THAT IS NOT TRUE. THAT IS NOT ACCURATE. THE CITY MANAGER SAID THERE IS NO VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE. A LOT ON THE GROUND HAVE SAID THERE IS. >> MORE THAN 15,000 HAITIAN IMMIGRANTS HAVE SETTLED IN OHIO. ALSO STRAINING LOCAL RESOURCES. IT CREATED TENSION IN THE COMMUNITY. GIVE US THE REALITY CHECK, WHAT IS HAPPENING IN SPRINGFIELD NOW? WHAT IS THE REACTION TO THIS CONTROVERSY? >> Reporter: THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF SHOCK AND PAIN IN THE HAITIAN COMMUNITY HERE. A LOT OF THE IMMIGRANTS WHO CAME HERE LEGALLY, THE FEDERAL PROGRAMS. THE CITY ADVERTISED NEW MANUFACTURING JOBS AS WELL AS AFFORDABILITY TO ATTRACT PEOPLE HERE. THIS WAS A PLACE WHERE THEY FELT THEY WOULD WELCOME THEM. NOW THERE ARE RESIDENTS WHO SAY THEY DO NOT LIKE THE CHANGE. I TALKED TO A MAN WHO SAID HE DOESN'T LIKE THE CULTURAL CHANGES OR THE IDEA THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE CHANGING THE RACIAL MAKEUP OF THE CITY. IN HIS MIND HE CLAIMS THERE ARE STRAY CATS MISSING AND HAS AN IDEA THAT HAITIANS ARE ABUSING ANIMALS. OFFICIALS SAY THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT HAITIAN MIGRANTS, THEY WERE FLEEING GANG VIOLENCE SO THEY WERE TRAUMATIZED WHEN THEY GOT HERE. I'M HEARING THEY ARE MORE TRAUMATIZED AND SADDENED THAT FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP IS GIVING OXYGEN TO A BASELESS ACCUSATION. >> YOU ACTUALLY HAVE SPOKEN TO AT LEAST ONE OF THE LEADERS TO THE HAITIAN COMMUNITY. WHAT DID HE TELL YOU? >> Reporter: THAT'S RIGHT. HE ONLY MOVED HERE A FEW YEARS AGO. HE ALREADY IS AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF A COMMUNITY CENTER FOR HAITIAN AMERICANS AND IMMIGRANTS COMING HERE. LISTEN TO WHAT HE TOLD ME ABOUT HOW HAITIANS ARE TAKING IN HIS NEWS. >> THEY ARE SCARED FOR THEIR LIVES. YESTERDAY I GOT A PHONE CALL, HE ASKED IF HE HAS SALEEBY COURSE -- BECAUSE HE IS SCARED FOR HIS LIFE. ANOTHER FRIEND TOLD ME THAT IT SEEMS THAT HE WOULD'VE HAD SOME FAMILY COMING TO VISIT HIM. SEEMS LIKE HE WILL MEET THEM IN COLUMBUS OR DAYTON. IT IS NOT SAFE RIGHT NOW FOR HIM IN SPRINGFIELD. >> Reporter: THERE ARE A NUMBER OF HAITIAN IMMIGRANTS WHO ARE SCARED TO GO ON CAMERA BECAUSE THEY ARE WORRIED THEY WILL BE HARASSED OR TARGETED IF THEY SHOW THEIR FACES AND TELL PEOPLE THEY DO NOT LIKE THE CLAIMS. THE OTHER THING, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SEE THEIR FUTURES AND THEY ARE THINKING ABOUT MOVING TO GO TO MIAMI OR NEW YORK. PLACES THAT HAVE LONG HAD HAITIAN COMMUNITIES. THAT IS SOMETHING I THINK IS HEARTBREAKING FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. >> IT IS A FASCINATING CONVERSATION. GREAT REPORTING ON THIS STORY THAT CONTINUES TO GET SO MUCH ATTENTION. WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR BEING ON THE GROUND. WE DO WANT TO TURN NOW TO WHAT VOTERS THOUGHT OF LAST NIGHT'S DEBATE. THAT IS THE BIG QUESTION. MY COLLEAGUE WATCHED WITH UNDECIDEDS. INCLUDING THOSE WHO ARE DOUBLE HATERS. SEVERAL VOTERS SEEMED OPEN TO VOTE FOR HARRIS AFTER WHAT THEY SAW OF HER LAST NIGHT. >> THERE IS A CLEAR LINE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF AN ELECTION. PEOPLE WANT TO PLAY KEYBOARD WARRIORS AND MAKE A FUSS BY SAYING HEINOUS THINGS ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE. THAT IS DONALD TRUMP. I THINK THAT HARRIS CAME OUT SHOWING DECORUM. SOME PRESIDENTIAL NATURE. >> WITH HARRIS, A LOT OF QUESTIONS. I DIDN'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT HER OTHER THAN SHE SERVED AS VICE PRESIDENT. TODAY SHE DIDN'T GET TO TALK A LOT ABOUT HER POLICY. I NEED TO STEP AWAY AND DO MY OWN RESEARCH AND LOOK ON HER WEBSITE. >> IT IS FASCINATING TO HEAR FROM THE VOTERS. I'M JOINT FROM THE PIVOTAL CITY OF GRAND RAPIDS. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WHAT DID VOTERS SAY ABOUT LAST NIGHT'S DEBATE? >> Reporter: I HAVE HEARD A LOT OF POSITIVE COMMENTS ABOUT VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS AND HER PERFORMANCE LAST NIGHT. EVEN IF THERE WAS DISAPPOINTMENT AMONG SOME THAT THEY DID NOT GET ENOUGH POLICY, THEY WANT TO HEAR MORE FROM HER BASED ON SOME OF THE FOLKS I HAVE TALKED TO. WE COME TO THIS COUNTY OVER AND OVER AGAIN BECAUSE PRESIDENT BIDEN FLIPPED IT IN 2020. HE DID SO NOT BECAUSE OF JUST MODERATES, DEMOCRATS WERE ENTHUSIASTIC. I WANT YOU TO LISTEN TO THOSE VOTERS I HAVE TALKED TO THROUGHOUT THE DAY. >> HARRIS SMASHED TRUMP. >> Reporter: DOES SHE MEET YOUR STANDARDS? >> SHE DID. HAVING SOMEBODY COME AT YOU OVER AND OVER AGAIN, MY BLOOD PRESSURE WAS GOING UP. I'M THINKING, SHE REALLY HANDLED IT. >> I WISH YOU WOULD'VE ANSWERED QUESTIONS MORE DIRECTLY. YOU COULD TELL THAT SHE WAS PREPARED. SHE KNEW EXACTLY HOW TO GET UNDER HIS SKIN. >> Reporter: I DID SPEAK TO SOMEONE WHO SAYS HE IS ABORTING FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP. HE DID NOT LIKE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ANIMALS THAT YOU JUST HEARD. HE DID NOT LIKE THE FACT THAT RACE CAME UP AT THE DEBATE. HE SAID HE DID LIKE WHAT HE HEARD ABOUT THE ECONOMY AND REFERENCES TO THE ECONOMY UNDER FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP. >> I AM CURIOUS, SO MUCH DISCUSSION ABOUT A SECOND DEBATE. DID THESE VOTERS SAY THEY HAD AN APPETITE FOR THAT? DO THEY WANT TO SEE A SECOND DEBATE? >> Reporter: A LOT OF THEM ARE STILL DIGESTING WHAT THEY HEARD LESLIE. A LOT OF THEM WERE SURPRISED. I SHOULD SAY THEY WERE NERVOUS ABOUT VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS AND HOW SHE WOULD DO. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU TALK TO DEMOCRATS WHO WENT INTO THE FIRST DEBATE AND CAME OUT UNCOMFORTABLE. THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT THE PERFORMANCE OF THEIR CANDIDATE. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE STILL DIGESTING WHAT THEY HEARD YESTERDAY. THE QUESTION IS, DOES IT CHANGE PEOPLE'S MINDS? I SPOKE TO A VOTER YESTERDAY TOLD ME HE WAS UNDECIDED. HE SAID THE DEBATE WOULD BE KEY FOR HIM. HE VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP IN THE PAST. HE TEXTED ME THIS MORNING AND SAID HE'S GOING TO BE VOTING WITH VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS. SHE REALLY CLEARED UP WHAT HE HEARD ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND CUT LOOSE OVER THE TELEVISION ADS HE HAS BEEN WATCHING. >> FASCINATING STUFF. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING YOUR GREAT CONVERSATIONS. >>> COMING UP, A REPORT FROM NEW ORLEANS AS THE CITY BRACES FOR HURRICANE FASTENING -- FRANCINE. WE ARE ALSO TRACKING THE FORECASTS WITH AN INTENSIFIED TORNADO THREAT AND PARTS OF THE SOUT. >>> WELCOME BACK. WE ARE TRACKING HURRICANE FRANCINE AS THE OUTER BANS OF THE STORM LAST THE LOUISIANA COAST. IT IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL SOON WITH HEAVY RAIN, STRONG WIND, FLASH FLOODS AND A LIFE- THREATENING STORM SURGE. LOUISIANA AND MISSISSIPPI DECLARED STATES OF EMERGENCY. THE GOVERNOR SAID THE NATIONAL GUARD HAS BEEN DEPLOYED. ORDERED MANDATORY EVACUATIONS. FOR THOSE STILL IN THE ZONE, THE TIME TO EVACUATE HAS PASSED. THERE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS URGING RESIDENTS TO HUNKER DOWN. JOINING MY -- TRACKING THE PATH OF HURRICANE FRANCINE. JESSE, WHAT ARE YOU SEEING ON THE GROUND? >> Reporter: KRISTIN, I AM NOT SURE IF YOU CAN HEAR BUT THE WIND IS PICKING UP A GOOD AMOUNT. UNPREDICTABLE TO SAY THE LEAST. IT WAS DRY THIS MORNING. WE STARTED TO HAVE A STEADY RAIN FOR HOURS. IT STOPPED RAINING FOR THE MOMENT BUT THE WIND IS CONTINUING HERE AS WE DEAL WITH THE OUTER BANS OF THE HURRICANE BEFORE LANDFALL. IN NEW ORLEANS, OFFICIALS ASKED PEOPLE SINCE NOON EASTERN TIME TO BE SHELTERING IN PLACE. THE GOVERNOR SAID EARLIER THAT IT IS NO LONGER TIME TO EVACUATE. NOW IS THE TIME TO STAY WHERE YOU ARE. THERE IS A TREE IN A PLANTER OVER HERE THAT IS BENDING A BIT. I CAN HEAR THE NOISE FROM THE IMPACT OF THE WIND. BEHIND ME A CAR IS GOING BY. BY AND LARGE THAT HAS BEEN A RARE SIGHT TODAY. AND LARGELY HAS BEEN QUIET OUT HERE AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE SAW PEOPLE LINING AROUND THE BLOCK TO GET SANDBAGS. WHEN WE WENT TO A STORE TO GET SUPPLIES, MUCH OF THE BOTTLED WATER WAS CLEARED OUT. PEOPLE CLEARLY ARE TAKING NOTICE WITH HURRICANE FRANCINE WITH LANDFALL BEING IMMINENT. >> TO FOLLOW UP, AND SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE SAYING THAT PEOPLE ARE TAKING WARNINGS FROM STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS SERIOUSLY. YET, NOT EVERYONE EVACUATED FROM AREAS THAT WERE ORDERED TO EVACUATE. HOW ARE THEY PREPARING? WHAT ARE THEY TELLING YOU ABOUT WHY THEY DECIDED TO STAY? >> Reporter: TO CLARIFY, WE HAVE NOT BEEN TOLD OF A MANDATORY EVACUATION IN NEW ORLEANS WHERE WE ARE. PEOPLE ARE BEING TOLD TO SHELTER IN PLACE. THEY ARE AED TO FINISH PREPARATIONS YESTERDAY EVENING. I'M TALKING ABOUT NEW ORLEANS. I'M SORRY ABOUT THE CONFUSION. YES, IT SEEMS THAT PEOPLE ARE TAKING THE WARNINGS. THIS IS A STATE THAT HAS BEEN HIT HARD BY HURRICANES MANY TIMES. MOST RECENTLY, HURRICANE IDA IN 2021. HURRICANE KATRINA, SEVERAL YEARS AGO. SOMETHING HAS WROUGHT -- IT WAS REFERENCED BY A CITY COUNCILMEMBER I TALKED TO YESTERDAY. HE SAID PEOPLE ARE TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY. THEY HAVE HAD SEVEN IN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS IN LOUISIANA. THAT IS A HIGH FREQUENCY FOR THESE KINDS OF STORMS. HURRICANES, THESE KINDS OF STORMS AND DESTRUCTION, TOP OF MINE. IT APPEARS THAT PEOPLE ARE LARGELY TAKING THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND ORDERS SERIOUSLY. >> WE CAN SEE THE WIND WHIPPING THE TREES AND THE RAIN BEHIND YOU. PLEASE, BE SAFE. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US THAT REPORTING. WE APPRECIATE IT. BILL, LET ME TURN TO YOU. HOW SOON SHOULD FOLKS EXPECT FRANCINE TO MAKE LANDFALL? >> WITHIN THE NEXT TWO HOURS. 5:00 TO 6:00 ON THE CENTRAL TIME ZONE, THAT'S WHERE THE LANDFALL IS. THERE ARE TWO THINGS I NOTICE AND ONE I DON'T LIKE. THE BRIGHT RED BAND. THE STRONGEST WINDS WITH THE HURRICANES ARE WITHIN THE EYE. THIS HAS FLARED UP DRAMATICALLY THE LAST HOUR. IT MEANS THE STORM WILL PRODUCE THE STRONGER WIND GUSTS OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME IF THIS HOLDS TOGETHER. THIS IS WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH. YOU WANTED TO WEAKEN BY THE TIME IT AGAINST YOU. IF IT DOESN'T THERE WILL BE SIGNIFICANT POWER OUTAGES. NOTICE THE BLACK LINE, THIS JOG TO THE EAST, THAT WILL BE THE STORM BEING CLOSER THAN EXPECTED FOR NEW ORLEANS. YOU HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF GOING THROUGH THE HIGH WALL. 90 MILE-PER-HOUR WIND. STRONG CATEGORY ONE. ALMOST A CATEGORY TWO. WE EXPECT ROOF DAMAGE, TREES DOWN ON CARS AND HOMES. IS NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO BLOW HOUSES AWAY. HERE IS A CLOSER LOOK AT THE EYEWALL. 25 MILES FROM THE DESTRUCTIVE WIND. MORGAN CITY, 10 MILES FROM THAT. THAT'S WHEN DAMAGE WILL START. WE HAVE A CHANCE FOR TORNADOES AS THE STORM MAKES LANDFALL. SO FAR NO REPORTS OF TORNADOES. >> WE KNOW WE ARE IN WEEK HURRICANE SEASON. EARLIER IT WAS PREDICTED ABOVE NORMAL HURRICANE ACTIVITY IN THE ATLANTIC. IS THAT STILL WHAT YOU ARE TRACKING? >> WE ARE ABOUT AVERAGE. NOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO THE PEAK, IT IS CONSIDERED WHEN WE GET TO THE SECOND WEEK OF SEPTEMBER, WE EXPECT TO GET ACTIVE AND IT HAS. WE ARE TRACKING FRANCINE. 30% CHANCE I GET A TROPICAL STORM THAT WILL HEAD YOUR WAY BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE WEEKEND. IT'S LIKE A BIG HURRICANE BUT ENOUGH TO HAVE ISSUES WITH BEACHES, RIP CURRENTS. WE HAVE A COUPLE AREAS AT THE ATLANTIC INCLUDING A NEW TROPICAL DEPRESSION. AFTER WE ARE DONE WITH FRANCINE WE WILL KEEP AN EYE TOWARD THE WEEKEND WITH THE CAROLINAS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>> WE WILL BRING YOU ANY UPDATES AS WE GET THEM. >>> POLITICS, POWER, AND POP STARS. COULD TAYLOR SWIFT ENDORSEMENT OF HARRIS MOTIVATE YOUNG VOTERS TO FILL IN THE BLANK SPACE WITH NEWS, ANALYSIS, AND NEWSMAKER INTERVIEWS. >>> A WOMAN YOU MIGHT KNOW TOO WELL DECIDED TO SPEAK NOW. SHORTLY AFTER THE DEBATE ENDED, TAYLOR SWIFT, ANNOUNCED HER SUPPORT FOR THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET. IT CAUGHT THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN OFF GUARD. SWIFT POSTED ON INSTAGRAM. I AM VOTING FOR HARRIS BECAUSE SHE VOTES FOR THE RIGHTS AND CAUSES THAT I BELIEVE IN. I BELIEVE WE CAN ACCOMPLISH SO MUCH MORE IF WE ARE LED BY CALM AND NOT CHAOS. THE 34-YEAR-OLD SINGER SIGNED HER POST, CHILDLESS CAT LADY. THAT WAS IN REFERENCE TO JD VANCE , ABOUT WOMEN WHO DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN. DONALD TRUMP TRIED TO SHAKE IT OFF THIS MORNING SAYING HE IS NOT A FAN OF HERS AND WILL PAY A PRICE IN THE MARKETPLACE. HARRIS IS LEADING 50% FROM 34% AMONG GEN Z VOTERS. JOINING ME NOW IS MELISSA, A NONPARTISAN ORGANIZATION THAT RESEARCHES CULTURE AND POLITICS. SHE HAS A NEW BOOK, THE POLITICS OF GEN Z. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. SO MANY PEOPLE ARE BUZZING ABOUT THIS ENDORSEMENT. USUALLY WE DO NOT SPEND TIME TALKING ABOUT AN ENDORSEMENT. TAYLOR SWIFT HAS TENS OF MILLIONS OF FOLLOWERS. WE HAVE SEEN HER CONCERTS IMPACT THE U.S. ECONOMY. HOW AND TO WHAT EXTENT CUSHY IMPACT THE SELECTION? DO YOU THINK IT WAS WAY YOUNGER VOTERS? >> WHEN THE MOST FAMOUS CHILDLESS CAT LADY ENDORSES YOU, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING FOR ANY CAMPAIGN. WITH TAYLOR SWIFT, SHE PROBABLY IS GOING TO HELP THE CAUSE FOR THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN. SHE HAS SHOWN IN THE PAST THE ABILITY TO GET PEOPLE TO VOTE. WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT 2020 SHE DID NOT ENDORSE JOE BIDEN. A LOT OF THINGS CHANGED THE LAST FOUR YEARS. WE HAVE MORE GEN Z VOTERS. OF THE 8 MILLION MORE VOTERS WILL BE ELIGIBLE TO VOTE. SHE REALLY COULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON THOSE VOTERS. >> TO FOLLOW UP, HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT -- TO WHAT EXTENT IS IT THOUGHT THAT SHE IMPACTED JOE BIDEN'S CAMPAIGN IN 2020? >> HE DID WELL WITH YOUNG VOTERS. I WILL SAY THAT LAST YEAR SHE ENCOURAGED FOLLOWERS TO REGISTER AND THERE WAS A SPOKE IN VOTER REGISTRATION. 30,000 OF HER FANS REGISTERED IN 2023. NOW IN 2024 WITH A HIGHLY PUBLICIZED ELECTION THAT LOTS OF YOUNG PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT, IT COULD REALLY HELP THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT CELEBRITY ENDORSEMENTS OF BROADLY. HISTORICALLY WHAT HAS THE IMPACT BEEN ON CAMPAIGNS? DO THEY MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE? >> DATA SHOWS MOST AMERICANS DO NOT RELY ON CELEBRITY ENDORSEMENTS. THERE WAS A POLL EARLIER THIS YEAR THAT USA TODAY PUT OUT, THEY ASKED ABOUT THE ROLE OF INFLUENCERS INCLUDING TAYLOR SWIFT. 1 IN 10 WOMEN'S UNDER THE AGE OF 35 SET HER ENDORSEMENT WOULD INFLUENCE THEM. IS NOT THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS BUT AN ELECTION WHERE IT WILL MATTER, IT HELPS, IT DOESN'T HURT. >>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE GENDER GAP. STILL NOT AS BIG AS IN 2020. THE CHALLENGE FOR THE V HARRIS, IF SHE WANTS TO WIN, IS TO TRY TO DRAW MORE VOTES. DOES THE NATIONAL GENDER GAP ECHO WHAT WE SEE WITH THE GEN Z GAP? >> IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST ELECTION IN 2022, 72% OF GEN Z WOMEN VOTED FOR DEMOCRATS. 54% OF THE MEN. PULLING IS SHOWING THAT THEY WILL TURN UP HEAVILY IN FAVOR OF HARRIS. WITH THE MEN, IT'S IT -- MAKES. YOUNGER WHITE MEN PROBABLY MORE POISED TO VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP AT THIS POINT. >> WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS THE DEBATE. HOW DOES GEN Z WATCH? THEY TUNING IN? >> THERE WATCHING ON STREAMING SERVICES. I HAVE THEM AND MY FAMILY AND I TALKED TO THEM AND THEY WERE LEFT WITH THE IMPRESSION THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS UNHINGED. HE WAS NOT ANSWERING QUESTIONS DIRECTLY. MANY OF THEM ARE GETTING THEIR POLITICS INFO ONLINE. >> IT WILL BE FASCINATING TO SEE IF SHE GETS OUT AND CAMPAIGNS FOR VP HARRIS . THANK YOU SO MUCH. GREAT CONVERSATION. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. >>> AS THE CAMPAIGN ENTERS THE TAYLOR SWIFT ERA, VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS IS ATTEMPTING TO SEPARATE HERSELF FROM THE TRUMPET IN ERA OF POLITICSAND HOPE. PLEASE TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF AND EACH OTHER. >>> IT WAS A ROCKY DEBATE PERFORMANCE FOR DONALD TRUMP. HIS ALLIES ARE HOPING ONE MOMENT MIGHT STAND OUT FOR VOTERS EVEN THOUGH IT CAME AT THE END OF THE NIGHT DURING CLOSING STATEMENTS. >> SHE JUST STARTED BY SAYING SHE WOULD DO THIS AND THAT, SHE WOULD DO ALL THESE WONDERFUL THINGS. WHY HASN'T SHE DONE IT? SHE HAS BEEN THERE FOR 3 1/2 YEARS. THEY HAVE HAD THREE AND HALF YEARS TO FIX THE BORDER. THEY HAVE THREE AND HALF YEARS TO CREATE JOBS. ALL THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, WHY HASN'T SHE DONE IT? SHE SHOULD LEAVE RIGHT NOW AND GO DOWN TO THAT BEAUTIFUL WHITE HOUSE. GO TO THE CAPITAL. GET EVERYONE TOGETHER AND DO THE THINGS YOU WANT. YOU HAVE NOT DONE AND YOU WANT. YOU BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT BELIEVE IN. >> HIS ALLIES SAY IT WAS ONE OF HIS STRONGEST MOMENTS. TO COUNTER HER EFFORTS. >> CLEARLY I AM NOT JOE BIDEN. I CERTAINLY AM NOT DONALD TRUMP. WHAT I DO OFFER IS A NEW GENERATION OF LEADERSHIP FOR OUR COUNTRY. ONE WHO BELIEVES IN WHAT IS POSSIBLE. ONE WHO BRINGS A SENSE OF OPTIMISM ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO INSTEAD F ALWAYS DISPARAGING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THAT IS THE KIND OF CONVERSATION I BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE REALLY WANT TONIGHT. AS OPPOSED TO A CONVERSATION THAT IS CONSTANTLY ABOUT BELITTLING AND NAME-CALLING. LET'S TURN THE PAGE. >> JOINING ME IS CHUCK TODD. CHEAP POLITICAL ANALYST. MOLLY. ASHLEY ETIENNE. AND, MIKE. THANKS TO YOU FOR BEING HERE. CHUCK, I WILL START WITH YOU. SET THE STAGE HERE IN TERMS OF THE FALLOUT. I TALKED TO A LOT OF ALLIES OF FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP. WITH THE STATEMENT WE HEARD THERE, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE BEGINNING AND END OF EVERY ANSWER. YET, IT CAME AT THE END. >> IF ONLY HE WOULD ACT NOT LIKE DONALD TRUMP. THAT'S ALWAYS WHAT IT IS. IF HE COULD DO THIS LIKE A GENERIC REPUBLICAN. A CANDIDATE THAT WOULD LISTEN TO ADVISORS. HE VIOLATED EVERY SIMPLE PIECE OF ADVICE HE WOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN. DON'T TAKE THE BAIT. DON'T DO THIS. HE DID. IT WAS SHOCKINGLY EASY. I AM VERY CURIOUS, WHAT IF HE DIDN'T? WHAT WAS PLAN B? IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS. I HAVE SEEN THAT AT THE BASE WHERE SOMEBODY COMES AND HOPE TO RATTLE THEIR OPPONENT. IT DOESN'T WORK AND THEY HAVE NO PLAN B. IF SHE HAD ONE, SHE OBVIOUSLY DID NOT NEED TO USE IT. FOR ME, THE WHOLE CAUTION I WOULD THROW AT THIS TO ENTHUSIASM FOR HARRIS SUPPORTERS, THERE IS A CHART THAT HAS BEEN CIRCULATING, EVERY DEBATE DONALD TRUMP PARTICIPATED IN HE HAS LOST BY A LOT EXCEPT FOR ONE. THAT WAS THE ONE IN JUNE WITH JOE BIDEN. IT IS CLEAR THAT VOTERS DO NOT LIKE WHAT THEY SEE IN THE MOMENT. IT DOES NOT SEEM TO HAVE A LONG- TERM IMPACT. THAT IS WHY I DO NOT THINK DONALD TRUMP WILL DEBATE. THAT WOULD BE A HUGE MISTAKE. THIS IS A GOOD FORMAT FOR HER. HE LIKES TO TALK ABOUT BEING A COUNTERPUNCH OR. A PROSECUTOR KNOWS HOW TO BE A COUNTERPUNCH OR. I WOULD NOT HAVE A DEBATE WITH HER IN THE MIDDLE OF VOTING. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANOTHER DEBATE AS A CIVILIAN. STRATEGICALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR HIM. >> TO THE POINT THAT CHUCK IS MAKING, HARRIS HAD THIS STRATEGY. IT WORKED EVERY SINGLE TIME. HE KNEW THAT WOULD BE THE STRATEGY. >> DONALD TRUMP IS UNCONVENTIONAL POLITICIAN. WE NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. I'M GLAD YOU'RE POINTING OUT ALL OF THE DEBATES. I REMEMBER CLINTON WINNING THE DEBATE. IF YOU BELIEVE POLLING. I WOULD LOVE TO SAY FOR THE NEXT NIGHT AND HAVE WEEKS, I WOULD LOVE HIM TO TALK ABOUT THE LAST 3 1/2 YEARS. 8 1/2 WEEKS LEFT FOR THE ELECTION. THAT WAS HIS BEST LINE. WHY HE DIDN'T DO IT -- I AGREE WITH THE OTHER STRATEGISTS. AT SOME POINT, DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO DO WHAT HE DOES. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT MATTERS? IT WAS NOT A KNOCKOUT. THE ONLY DIPPY I KNOW OF FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS WAS IN JUNE. >> HERE IS SOME OF WHAT WE HEARD LAST NIGHT FROM HARRIS. >> I AM GOING TO TELL YOU THAT I HAVE TRAVELED THE WORLD AS VICE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S. WORLD LEADERS ARE LAUGHING AT DONALD TRUMP. I HAVE TALKED WITH MILITARY LEADERS, SOME WORKED WITH YOU AND THEY SAY YOU ARE A DISGRACE. IT IS ABSOLUTELY WELL-KNOWN TO DICTATORS AND AUTOCRATS ROOTING FOR YOU TO BE PRESIDENT AGAIN. THEY ARE SO CLEAR THAT THEY CAN MANIPULATE YOU WITH FLATTERY AND FAVORS. THAT IS WHY SO MANY MILITARY LEADERS WHO YOU HAVE WORKED WITH HAVE TOLD ME THAT YOU ARE A DISGRACE. >> WAS LITERALLY GREATEST HITS OF JOBS TO GET UNDER HIS SKIN. SHE LANDED. THE RISK IN THAT, YOU FLUB A LINE. SHE LANDED MOST OF HER ATTACKS LAST NIGHT. >> THEY ALL WERE SUCCESSFUL GETTING UNDER HIS SKIN. TO THE POINT WHERE THE MODERATORS GAVE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY SOMETHING POTENTIALLY MORE STATESMAN -- HE WAS LIKE, LET ME MAKE CLEAR THAT I BELIEVE THE LIE ABOUT THE STOLEN ELECTION. HE WAS HELPING HER CONTINUALLY. I WROTE THIS IN MY ANALYSIS TODAY, BECAUSE THE DEBATE WAS ABOUT DONALD TRUMP, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOME OF THE SWING VOTERS SHE NEEDS TO WIN OVER, THE UNDECIDEDS, THEY MAY NOT HAVE COME AWAY FROM THIS DEBATE FEELING LIKE THEY GOT QUESTIONS ABOUT HER ANSWER. THEY MAY NOT COME AWAY FEELING THAT THEY HAVE A STRONG AND CLEAR PICTURE OF WHO SHE IS IN HER OWN RIGHT, VERSUS HAVING SEEN HER PROSECUTE HIM. THE DEBATE WAS ALL ABOUT DONALD TRUMP. >> DEMOCRATS I SPOKE TO LAST NIGHT AND TODAY HAVE SAID EXACTLY THAT. SHE DID A GREAT JOB RATTLING HIM. AT THE SAME TIME, SHE DID NOT REALLY EXPLAIN SOME OF THE SHIFTS IN POLICY POSITIONS. IN A DETAILED WAY. SHE DIDN'T REALLY SAY HOW THE HARRIS ADMINISTRATION WOULD BE DIFFERENT FROM BIDEN'S. DOES SHE NEED TO SPEND THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS DOING THAT? >> I THINK THAT SHE WILL. I CHALLENGE THE NOTION THAT SHE DID NOT ACHIEVE WHAT SHE WANTED TO. SHE PROJECTED A SENSE OF COMMAND. A SENSE OF THE POLICY COMMAND. PRESENTING HERSELF AS PRESIDENTIAL. GIVING PEOPLE THE SENSE SHE WOULD NOT BACK DOWN TO BULLIES. WHETHER IT IS DONALD TRUMP OR PUT IN. I THINK SHE ACHIEVED THAT WELL. SHE WILL HAVE THE NEXT 50 DAYS TO TALK ABOUT HERSELF. THERE WAS A THEME THAT SHE KEPT REPEATING ALL NIGHT THAT I THINK IS GETTING LOST. SHE FOCUSED ON THE FACT THAT DONALD TRUMP CARES , DOESN'T CARE ABOUT YOU. HE COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT YOU. THE POINT WAS THAT HE SHOWED UP. THIRD ATTEMPT TO BE THE PRESIDENT. THE HEAD OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY FOR EIGHT YEARS AND SHOWS UP WITH NO POLICY TO MOVE THE NATION FORWARD. HE COULD NOT COME UP WITH A PLAN ON HEALTHCARE EVEN THOUGH THEY VOTED 60W2 UNDERMINE OBAMA CARE. SHE WAS DRIVING THE NOTION THAT HE COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT YOU. IF YOU LOOK AT THE RECENT CNN POLLS, THAT'S THE AREA SHE BEATS HIM DOUBLE DIGITS IN THE BATTLEGROUND STATES. >> IT'S A GREAT LINE IF YOU RUN IN PRIMARIES AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE KNOW WHO YOU ARE. SHE HAD ONE JOB OTHER THAN SURVIVAL. THAT WAS TO DEFINE HERSELF. THERE WERE TWO HITS THAT FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP HAD. ONE WAS THE 3 1/2 YEARS FOR THE OTHER, WHEN HE FOCUSED ON IRAN. PLAYING A POLITICAL GAME OF SMALL MARGINS. WHEN YOU CAN MAKE THE POINT THAT THEY MADE THAT WE DRIED UP FUNDING BY PULLING MONEY AWAY FROM IRAN. YOU HAVE PICTURES OF PALLETS OF DOLLARS BEING DELIVERED DURING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION TO IRAN, THAT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR HER TO TRY TO COUNTER. >> DONALD TRUMP NEEDED TO PROVE THAT HE CANNOT BE DONALD TRUMP. EVERY DEBATE HE HAS LOST BECAUSE -- HE JUST DOUBLE DOWN ON WHO HE IS. HE DID NOT DO HIMSELF ANY FAVORS. >> LET ME PLAY A PIECE OF REACTION FROM MATT ROMNEY. >> THIS WAS CLASSIC DONALD TRUMP. IN THE CASE OF HARRIS, MOST PEOPLE DID NOT KNOW HER WELL OTHER THAN A FEW CLIPS THAT WERE NOT FLATTERING THAT YOU MIGHT SEE ON THE INTERNET. PEOPLE SAW THAT SHE IS AN INTELLIGENT CAPABLE PERSON WHO HAS A POINT OF VIEW ON ISSUES. SHE DEMONSTRATED THAT. >> WHAT ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE ARGUED FOR A WHILE, THE PERSON WHO WINS THIS RACE WILL PROVE HIMSELF TO BE THE CHANGE TO CANADA. SHE MET MATT ROMNEY MADE THE POINT BECAUSE HE -- THE FIRST TIME YOU STAND ON PHASE WAS SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN PRESIDENT, IT ELEVATES YOU BEING ON STAGE. THAT IS AN IMPORTANT -- THAT IS THE POINT HE WAS TRYING TO MAKE. JUST BEING ON STAGE, BEING HIS EQUAL IN THAT MOMENT, FOR A LOT OF AMERICANS THEY HAVE NOT SEEN THAT. THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE SEEN THEM TOGETHER. IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR HER. SHE BEAT HIM AS SOMETHING HE IS USUALLY BETTER AT. STAGECRAFT. I THINK SHE NEEDS A SECOND DEBATE. BECAUSE IT IS THE FILL IN THE GAPS. A LOT OF TIMES YOU KNOW THE FIRST THING A PRESIDENT WILL DO WHEN THEY GET INTO OFFICE. I KNOW THE FIRST THING THAT DONALD TRUMP WILL DO. SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT LIKE IT BUT HE TALKED ABOUT WHAT HE WANTS TO DO THE FIRST WEEK. BARACK OBAMA MADE A PLEDGE TO SIGN A HEALTHCARE LAW BEFORE THE END OF MY FIRST TERM. TO MIKE'S POINT, THAT USUALLY COMES OUT IN A PRIMARY CAMPAIGN. YOU TALKED TO OBAMA PEOPLE AND THEY SAY, WHY DID HE MAKE THIS PLEDGE? HE GOT IT DONE THOUGH, RIGHT? I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THE DEBATE IS NOT THE BEST PLACE TO DO POLICY BUT SHE NEEDS A LARGE FORM TO START FILLING IN BLANKS. THERE ARE FENCE SITTERS. >> REALLY DOES TAYLOR SWIFT'S NAME COME UP IN THIS FORM. I HAVE TO ASK -- >> YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TO MY HOUSE WITH MY DAUGHTER. >> DOES THIS ENDORSEMENT MATTER? >> I THINK SO? MY DAUGHTER WOULD DO ANYTHING TAYLOR SWIFT TELLS HER TO. >> MY DAUGHTER WILL NOT BUY THE $20 HARRIS BRACELET. >> IF SHE DID NOT DO WELL AT THE DEBATE, WE HAVE TAYLOR SWIFT LINED UP TO ENDORSE. I HAVE A PICTURE OF A STAFFER ON THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN RUNNING DOWN THE HALLWAY AFTER SHE DID WELL. SING, STOP. SAVE IT FOR NEXT WEEK. >>> GREAT CONVERSATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. CHECK MAX TILLETT.COM, YOU ARE LOOKING AT PICTURES OF THE 9/11 MEMORIAL AT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER. AMERICA REMEMBER >>> THAT WAS PART OF TODAY'S CEREMONY IN NEW YORK. REMEMBERING THE 9/11 TERROR ATTACKS. PRESIDENT BIDEN AND VIVI HARRIS, DONALD TRUMP, AND JD VANCE WERE AT GROUND ZERO TO HONOR THOSE WHO DIED 23 YEARS AGO TODAY. WHAT HAS BECOME AN ANNUAL TRADITION, THE NAMES OF THE VICTIMS WERE READ OUT LOUD. >> MICHAEL -- MICHAEL ASHER. >> THE PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT ALSO PAID RESPECTS IN PENNSYLVANIA. DONALD TRUMP VISITED THE NATIONAL MEMORIAL DURING THE DAY. MOMENTS AGO, THE PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT PARTICIPATED IN A WREATHLAYING CEREMONY. 184 PEOPLE DIED WHEN HIJACKED FLIGHT 77 HIT THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. HERE IS THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE SPEAKING. >> WE REPAIRED THE DAMAGE TO THIS BUILDING. WE CANNOT REPAIR THE DAMAGE TO YOUR HEARTS. NO WORDS CAN TAKE AWAY YOUR GRIEF. NO AMOUNT OF TIME CAN MAKE SENSE OF THE WORST TERRORIST ATTACK IN AMERICAN HISTORY. HE MET NEARLY 3000 PEOPLE DIED ON SEPTEMBER 11th, 2001.