Beetlejuice vs The Mask! | DEATH BATTLE Cast

hello everybody Welcome out to death battle cast uh if this is your first time tuning in uh we're a show where we get a bunch of nerds together and we debate uh about which charact of our favorite characters would and they fight to the death uh with it's lightly researched not nearly as much as death battle proper but uh yeah we're live uh at noon on Thursday so if you're watching the VOD come hang out with us live uh hey I'm Chad I play Boomstick at death battle and today I'm replacing Ben because he's out of town for his birthday uh so if you haven't wished Ben a happy birthday go ahead and do so but today I'm joined by Sam Liam and it's been a minute Ken hey yeah yeah there you go I'm excited because we've learned that Kian is changing the meta of death battle cast today instead of having a mentally prepared 60c rundown he's just made a video which I don't know probably probably because none of us have had the time most of the time like make go into Premiere um but yeah I'm excited to see how this changes everything he hired Jim Carrey to do a video yeah there you go Cameo explaining why straight from Cameo Jim car is not one of those actors that would be Onamia zero% chance uh he made his life's fortune in 1994 alone and it's good to go yeah for sure well wouldn't that be sick just yeah right to do Ace Ventura Dumb and Dumber and The Mask all in one year yeah that would be sick did he really how burnout was that year that's all 1994 I can't think of a single actor had a better year than Jim Carrey 1994 yeah it's one of the best Act Right the best yeah sure well today we are not here to debate Jim Carrey well kind of um we're it is the mask uh who is represented by Ken uh versus Beetlejuice because hey new Beetle juu movie came out we've been talking about Beetlejuice a lot lately and uh he's yep you said it three times he's coming and he's going to kill he's going to kill the mask now did I say it three times yeah you sure did oh man I meant to stop it too all right well there I went um but yeah I'm I'm excited so because I'm sure a lot of people are familiar with Beetle ju just's like the movies uh and stuff but uh there was a cartoon show that I remember watching as a kid and I know there's some wild stuff there so yeah it's going to be interesting positive we have a Desy death battle I remember researching it and pulling footage for Desy death battle Beetlejuice so I'm like positive unless it was one of those episodes that never got who knows maybe all right release back into your your files we're going to get into it and then it's up to Liam and Keen to convince y'all watching live uh who the actual winner is and you guys get to decide it later in a vote so get ready um who wants to kick us off all right um Liam because since I I'm going to keep the suspense on whenever this video is going a little bit longer and I would like to okay great I would love to talk about Beetle Juice all right beetle juu beetle juice um so Beetle juu uh spelled after the star um in the movie is a is the Ghost with the most um which is a major advantage in his favor in this fight because he's a [ __ ] ghost that is unkillable and we'll get into like just how unkillable he is um but he is a reality warping [ __ ] nightmare monster he can do basically anything he wants um he can break the forth wall he knows what medium he's in um and he even knows the plot of what he's in before he does it uh he has everything that he needs to counter another reality warper like the mask um because he is the same except on a much larger scale uh he has what he needs to kill the mask uh he has things that will attack the mask's specific weakness that we've seen um in the masks media he's just better in every way um it's it's showtime because he's GNA kill the mask eat him his own ass okay that's how they do it yeah all right looking forward to diving into that a little bit more because are you better better Chad I'm GNA keep slamming my water bottle on the table you know cuz we we've done we've done an episode on the mask uh and uh yeah that's why I'm here pretty ridiculous ex Keen you were one of the original researchers on that episode in 2019 so I'm sure bringing it all back to the front of your brain is probably difficult but prepandemic I don't remember I don't remember any of it like I was going through like the character sheep be like what the [ __ ] he did this and I wrote this down yeah it's like I'm sure if I looked at my old like what classes I took in college half of them I would be like not a [ __ ] chance I took that that's not a I did yeah sure it was actually I think it was first year of University that I did that research and now I'm a graduate so wow hey hey you finished good job yeah yeah wait to it was a year ago but thanks not all of us can be dropouts like Chad yeah you guys G to be doing well though I dropped out to do this you know still going all right uh I always feel like I'm going to be like the worst like parent at like parent job day cuz I'm like what all the kid I work on YouTube and the kid how did you do that I dropped out of college you I I did that I know I've told this story before but I for some reason because I we were working at Rooster Teeth and I was engaged with their intern program from for UT University of Texas I was a speaker for like a whole bunch of like year or semester one freshman looking to get into careers in like media entertainment whatever and I went to the class and like one of the first things a young woman asked me was just like what would you like what what did you do at College I was like oh I didn't go that was no it was waste money and I was like oh [ __ ] I'm out of college all right well I'm sure everyone's looking forward to getting a refresher on the mask and I want to know what this video is because we have no idea all we know is there's a video so Mike play the video come on look Ma I'm on death battle cast smoking 60 seconds on the clock here's why BJ can suck my lollipop while it may seem an impossible task to kill a ghost nothing is impossible when you've got this mask the mask has Tangoed with the likes of Lobo and has even fought against ghosts before he even has this Ghostbusters vacuum that can suck them up and trap them this should be enough to deal with this ghost but he can also hack apart his Limbs and separate them which is enough to kill him in the cartoon series and it was self-inflicted through beetlejuice's own poor choice of words if the Mask doesn't kill him bad puns will this isn't even a question the mask can do anything he wants even create death for the dead Who's laughing now did I just debate against Beetlejuice and that is why he wins wow I think you win on presentation I think that's it we can close it down and talk about some other stuff now so don't know who that was yeah that was Max one of our editors uh he's a big fan of this matchup loves mask loves Beetlejuice and he sent me some notes and I was like hey I know you're not on the episode and kind of wanted to be you want to like make a little Cameo do some arguing and uh yeah I thought it'd be like he did that all in like two days crazy no he did that like last night is when I came with the idea he sent it to me perect incredible yeah I think it was like two probably like 2 am his time that he sent it to me it was like 4 in the morning here so I only saw it when I woke up wow good job go Max also I just realized unforunately the trust we all have in everyone CU you were just like I've got a video and we were just like okay roll it we just rolled that live like and it was like I to be fair I did ask it didn't have copyright issues that was all like we're not going to get a copyright claim on this video right he's like no we're fine we're fine it's our own guy unfortunately for that video max claims our episode unfortunately for the video though Max sent me notes as well and there are notes that very interestingly directly counter things he said in that video like hey so the mask might be able to do this but actually this so it's like meme where it's like trust nobody not even yourself all right well let's yeah well let's kick it off with what he mentioned there V uh in that video Liam so the mask has some Ghostbuster technology how does Beetle just get out of the Ghostbuster Tech how does he do it uh let me see Ghostbuster he put a thing I'm search up Ghostbuster uh the Ghostbuster oh yeah The Mask uh but he'll never catch with a oh yeah so first of all uh Beetlejuice has a massive speed advantage that we'll get to when we talk about stats um uh and Beetlejuice can also like teleport out of it as well as transform into it um there's nothing really that like would force him to get caught by it it's just like a vacuum right uh Beetle Juice would have to be like really stupid and leave himself open uh and he's aware of like ghost catching technology uh he would not um he would not be threatened by that has he gone up against Epi has he had a crossover with the Ghostbusters that seems like something they might have done in the 80s uh I lowkey my like most desired match up for Beetlejuice is the Ghostbusters if I didn't think they would just get absolutely [ __ ] slaughtered but um they might not I don't know but I think it would be just like fun to watch in the chat suggested why we weren't doing Beetle Juice versus The Crow I was like well we we actually we joked about it we did joke about that um versus who the crow the crow he's a superhero you're too young yeah and then they did a new movie and they Market it well and nobody heard about it so it bombed I'll take your word for it um Bruce Lee's son played The Crow and he died on onset yeah right was a gun went yeah yeah um malfunction with a blank round I believe it is yeah um there's also something else I wanted to address from that video which is that uh the mask can like hack Beetlejuice up into pieces um and and he'll die that way um first off Beetlejuice is a ghost so the mask would be doing it not to like a physical like a zombie body he'd be doing it to like a ghostly body which I'm not going to say is impossible for the mask to do because the mask is a reality warper um but he would need to like take that into consideration first um second of all uh the hacking you into pieces does not immediately kill Beetle Juice uh it it takes until the end of the like if he doesn't have the pieces of his body reattached by The End by like Sundown then he dies um but all he has to do is just reattach them and then it's fine okay but what if this fight takes place at 5:00 pm in the middle of July December I should say uh well in the middle of July that would be a huge Advantage because the sun's not going to go down for another three [ __ ] hours yeah I mess it up because it's a summer still I'm I'm adjusting or you're Australian yes maybe um oh maybe yes what happens if we yeah you go ahead even if it was in December um Beetlejuice can uh teleport both him and The Mask uh to the Nether world where uh where Beetlejuice would already go if his name was said three times that's another thing I wanted to address because I feel like there's an obvious like counter that would bring up if in any fight with Beetle juices that all you need to do is say his name three times and you send him back to hell um uh that matters in the movies because Beetlejuice wants to be on earth causing Havoc but for the sake of a death battle it doesn't really matter like where he is um he can teleport uh uh he can teleport people and himself back to the Nether world if he wants to just have the fight take place there I'm sure there's also an episode because the mask would be aware like with the like I'm sure the mask would figure out that he could like at least send him away so like I would see that like there Would we that this would be like where we wrote as a part in a fight where the master just keeps saying be and he keeps popping away and then popping back you know like it would be a fun little bit but you could make an argument that they'd both be aware of each other's powers and weaknesses um because they're both fourth wall well I know that Beetlejuice is a fourth wall breaker who's like potentially aware of like uh pop culture PL you said yeah the plot he he knew the plot of his musical um he was like he was like in the musical he was like talking to the audience and like calling plot points ahead of time he's like that's foreshadowing um yeah yeah yeah very classic like Deadpool style of course I love that you are you managed to bring in something from the musical is there a lot of uh while we're in the realm of fourth wall breaking how much is that like a thing for beo just in the sense of like does he interact with the medium in the way that like cuz I've read com where like the mask is like yeah he's like like jumping between like the panels and that kind of stuff uh so I'm wondering if he has something similar is it just like ah wink wink uh knocking on the glass I can see you guys so Beetle Juice does have an instance in the ljn video game you can hear the Angry Video Game screaming and rage in the background um in the ljn game uh he is aware that the player is controlling him and at least at one point in the game can deny you control of him like there's one point to go through a door and he's like I don't want to and and you like can't control him for a little bit uh I think until he like agrees that's funny so he does actually do have some some control does it um in the cartoon doesn't he like step through the TV in like the intro I think hold on I'm gonna have to look he might he does a lot of like hopping between TVs TV screens and people stuff um though I don't know if that is like strictly speaking forth while breaking if it's all within the same medium um yeah yeah but he does have stuff like that even if the mask even if Beetlejuice doesn't just immediately teleport them to the Nether world uh at the beginning of the fight to nullify the Beetle Juice Beetle Juice Beetlejuice thing um there is an episode of the cartoon where he's where Lydia because they're friends in the cartoon which is hilarious uh it's like you didn't watch the movie uh is the cartoon be a continuation of the movie because I know that like the mask has a cartoon but it's very much like its own thing it's like that it's like yes it's a continuation of the movie in that it takes place in the matlin's house and it's has Lydia in it um but they character Dynamics completely different Beetlejuice is like a nice he's like I don't know what I don't know what willpower is and Lydia's like you have to say you're sorry um and he's like what's that mean uh and pretty ridiculous be yeah and uh they're friends and it's not really explained why they're friends like maybe I haven't seen the whole thing um but yeah uh Lydia sent him back to the Nether world because he was being a dick and then uh he like he in the Nether world said I can't get Lydia out of my mind and okay the dynamic in the cartoon is that uh sometimes a lot of the time uh beetlejuice's powers are activated via like puns in word play that he says so when he says I can't get Lydia out of my mind he actually summoned her from Earth Earth into The Nether world and sucked her into his mind where she could not Escape um that's something that Max was telling me about he has this thing where like he'll say something and it becomes like very literal like he says like oh I feel like a kid again and he turns into a kid and like the the limbs think they were talking about before he said oh I'm coming to PIR at the seams and then his like limbs all just popped off exactly I'm getting nowhere fast and then he teleports to like nowh a blank void um and the only way ESC says give me a break yeah what happens okay so what happens if we get to say this is killing me nothing happens because he's already dead what if he says like the mask sucks and is a little [ __ ] and he's uh I think it only works though it only works for like no he did it to Lydia remember he he he sucked her into his his mind well yeah but that's still like getting sucked into he's not just like affecting otherwise wouldn't everything be like die and then he wins uh no he's a he's a nice guy in the cartoon and all of his powers like he does fight people you know could you yeah but could you imagine if he put the mask in his mind I feel like that would not go good for Beetle Juice like well it's interesting we talk about the mask um because we've talked about Beetle Juice's weakness but the mask has a huge weakness too um which is that if you take the mask off uh you lose Stanley yiss is yeah how is he gonna take the mask off though how's he going to do that well he this is this is a tactic that they've used many times like it's not like it's not just like oh grab it and pull it off and it's super easy no it it usually takes the the user giving it up um or something like that the only times that like it's pulled off someone else is when it's like a dog and a baby because the mask at least as far as like the comics go it's very tight it's like your own like how do you say like malice like the more that you're just like generally like a I don't want to say a bad person but like the less the further down you are on the moral scale like the harder it is to take it off yeah um this is how he's going to do it he's actually he has a bunch of options which is why I think that he has he's he has a really good counter to the mask because he has so many different ways of getting it off um first off uh he has this spray um in uh uh in the episode Dr Beetle and Mr juice like what they did there um that's called like the new U spray and when he sprays it it flips your personality um so he does it to these cold blooded killers and they become like nerds um and I like how that's the opposite of a coldd nerds have never what does that mean about us what does that mean about us Don't Spray us um that's very similar to the way that Lobo gets the mask to take off the mask in the crossover comic um yeah us like a grief bomb or something yeah I think it was an empathy bomb or something like that where he like makes him feel bad for all the things that he's done uh makes him feel remorseless what or makes him feel remorse um would that what Ates to me is that the mask is capable of being of having his like emotions or his mind affected okay cuz I was going to say there's I I would have been very surprised if the spray would have worked on it but you have okay you got an example yep it's it's uh almost direct yeah so you could he turn him into somebody a lot more docile and convince him to take it off or he could mind control him and tell him to take it off uh he has just say mind control like hypnosis powers or he could possess him and I know that's kind of weird because the masks host body is already being possessed okay um but he can possess other Spirits he can possess ghosts don't ask me how it works it just does because I haven't seen the cartoon but I'm going off of Max's amazing notes Here uh so the Mas qualify as a spirit um well yeah explain explain what the mask is like what is it actually this is something good I think we talked about this in like the episode but like it's very much like something that they keep pretty hidden like I know in like the movies it's like created by like Loki or whatever but it is like Loki's yeah yeah yeah anyway in the original Comics though we we only ever see it as part of like it was part of like some like ancient ritual that like a like some tribe was using and like they don't like that's sort of like a page of the comic is like that's what its Origins are and then it's just like yeah and then some uh fancy pants dude wanted it and they brought it to like some Museum and then someone broke it into the museum and put it on or something like you know memory's not fresh but U this like the entire like mask Comics like everything I read it's just like the mask hopping from person to person and we don't really see like it's or like as far as that stuff goes we don't know like where it really came from it's the same in the movie or like at least like the original like it just like floats down the stream and then it was like uh and other one that we found out about it that was one of the first movies I ever saw that I thought was absolute [ __ ] garbage when I saw it what the second one the mask son of the mask the mask the mask is like one of my favorite movies of all time it was my favorite movie when I was a kid uh it made me want to be an actor uh Son of the Mask did not Inspire the same feelings Son of the Mask like killed something inside of me okay man says the only way the mask can be removed is by the we letting it come off um and then also which I just addressed yeah yeah yeah yeah um but then also he asking in The Mask episode mask was caled at going 9.6 meters per second you mentioned uh speed earlier Liam Beetlejuice fast Beetlejuice very fast uh Beetlejuice once wrapped his arms around the entire planet in a few seconds and like they met in the middle at the other end of the planet um he's ran from his house to the North Pole in a couple of seconds uh and I was going to save this for a little bit later because it's kind of big and it's only like 24 minutes in but I we can talk about it is that he grows to the size of a constellation and fights I think Scorpio because it's a big scorpion constellation um which is [ __ ] crazy uh that just just passively like moving his body would be moving faster than like if you're the size of a constellation also like your mass right because constellations aren't physical things they're just like drawings of where of like we like connect the dots with stars in the sky they're just like individual stars and the stars are like really really tiny dots compared to the whole thing but if you're like physically the size I guess he's a ghost so he doesn't have mass but um that's pretty impressive I I would say I would say do we have a yeah it was 9.6 million is what we collect the Mas I say I was like looks like that's gravity do you have a picture of this constellation thing I'm just wondering what it uh what it looks like like did Max look that or did he just talk about it he did link he did link it to me it it does look like a a con it does look like him wrestling with the Scorpio constellation in the sky I didn't like send it to Mike only because it was like a small image um so it's kind of of hard to see but it's him he's like wearing like an academics robe and a hat like a like a like a graduate hat um and wrestling with a giant like scorpion that is like made of stars in the sky in space in outer space because of course um all right let's talk about some of the some of the things the mask can do because we kind of we kind of hit on the you know ghost equipment and take him apart and whatever but like the mask's done some crazy stuff right uh yeah hang on give me a second no problem he hasn't uh very grounded character you know okay so this is the part where I have to hop into my old research document because uh because I don't remember a lot of it let's see I do remember one thing from the episode was that uh he got kicked in the ball so hard that he flew into the sky and he survived that just fine um let's see I know that he I think one of the things that we CED was uh he like in his fight with Lobo he like he brought out some like huge bomb that created like this massive explosion over the Earth uh he did do that I forget how yeah I forget how high we C that too but pretty look pretty big let's see I I think it was like country level I think it was heritance just going off of my like memory of the script which is usually which is nice but it's not constellational yeah constellation pretty crazy there's no way the mask hasn't like pulled down the Sun or something right like surely that might have happened in the cartoon uh I'm looking at the notes that Max sent me I'm not seeing it yeah not seeing it okay also like that's so that's so lame though Liam let's have some fun this [ __ ] look I was going to save it till later I was gonna it was going to be the mic drop but you didn't have to you didn't have to bring it up we were just talking about speed and I know you yeah there it is yeah most of his stuff CU because the thing because this is something that I want to talk about uh most of like the mass stuff or like his like big feets they aren't like the they aren't like classic durability it's like what has he like regenerated from yeah cuz like he's not like that durable but he's been like he's been hacked to Pieces he's been like turned into puddles he like he has taken his head off the body like the full mask head off his body it has blown blown up so like the mask is gone and he is still regenerated from that so body his head po back up with the mask on yeah yeah yeah yeah something like that it it was one of those it happened off street but like yeah like like head blew up like mask is gone and he still comes back from it so it's like where so like what's Beetle just gonna do to like kill him because I don't think you can just like hit him hard enough and that'll do it well I'm glad that you asked me that because uh Beetlejuice has an eraser that he can pull out that just erases people from existence yeah the classic the classic uh Cartoon no you thing yeah you can just erase the mask and and prevent him from regeneration uh prevent him from regenerating because I don't think the mask is ever regenerated from like nothingness he usually like there's something he comes back from yeah the most it's been is like a puddle uh yeah I mean I will admit that's a pretty yeah that's a pretty good one because he he doesn't have like uh as far as I know there's nothing like that um I mean there could be something uh yeah he hasn't or eraser because like you never know like can I find pencil in here he draws himself um result juice what would pet juice what would happen if pet juice put the mask on probably nothing would just like fall cuz cuz he's a ghost what it didn't fall uh I mean he's a ghost but does he not have like some form of a physical body when he's in the real world um that's a good question I think that he can make his body like material I think that that's the idea I don't think he like adopts an actual like physical body that can like you know oh you stab him with a sword um I think that it's still like uh a ghostly body that he chooses to make physical in the same way that like he's invisible normally to people unless you're a weirdo like Lydia um uh but he can choose to make himself visible he also Cho to just make himself invisible which might mess with the mask at least a little bit sure the mask just pull up like ghost seeing on this is of the things I've never talked about you did eat a bomb that did happen uh let's see he's been crushed by robots that is one of those because like be just could put on the mask but also like what would that really give him you know like when Lobo puts it on it's like okay it makes sense like what abilities Lobo would get from putting on the mask but like they kind of just do a lot of the same stuff anyway so like what's what's the advantage just like he's even crazier he went from like an he went from like a 12 to a 13 you know uh and then I guess he gets to I mean I guess he gets to kill like the host who's totally like vulnerable then but the mask isn't the host the mask is the mask you know yeah yeah he probably just eat the mask yeah or like just make him have even less morals which is a terrifying thought like um part of like the mask is the mask not the person the mask is on right like right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah if the mask is able to get itself onto its competitor doesn't it just win well it that yeah it it doesn't like take over there is clearly a relationship there and like that's why you know they can take it off it can get harder to take off later right but like it there it is like a symbiotic Bond a little bit right so that person does yeah know because yeah because I mean we talked before about the uh like the whole guil bomb thing that loo used but like people like people who have like personal connections can't be like this isn't you take off the mask please and then they take off the mask yeah can't the The Mask can decide to leave its host as well though right uh because a mask ever just like rejected somebody and bailed uh no I don't think so like even like even there's this one lady character who I think was like in a relationship with like Stanley episs uh in like the early comics and like she she hates using the mask like she hates using it she's one of the weaker users but even like even with her like it will like stick around so long as she's wearing it like the Mask doesn't like pop off of anyone on their own okay just wonder if the mask could like melt Beetle Juice into nothing and then just like hop off and I don't I don't think the mask would like I don't think the mask would like have beef about that like uh like it's not like because it's not like the mask is like you know its own personality with it own like different people wearing the masks don't like have memories of the previous people who woren it kind of thing it kind of just like sticked with whoever it sticks with they're bringing up in the in the chat that uh it rejected Walter um who is the big buff guy um from the comics that uh that is the only one that can stand up to the mask but it's not clear why it rejects him um he tries to put it on and it just doesn't do anything also uh I saw a a uh in the chat that said I'm pretty sure that in Son of the Mask both Loki and The Mask can use cartoon pencils to create or erase things okay no I I'm seeing the I'm seeing the Walter one here uh can I pull this up this is I don't think this qualifies for his rejection shoot okay I can't pull up the specific uh the specific image right now but uh the mask didn't reject him he's just so big that it didn't fit on his face oh it needs it needs to physically fit on his face interesting limitation but it fit on the dog's face Beetlejuice in a movie in the movie it's a little different Beetlejuice makes somebody into a turkey at some point right like couldn't Beetlejuice just remove their face and then the mask would fall off oh Beetlejuice does transform himself and others into lots of different things that's for sure things and things without face shapes um yeah but real quick before we get to that I do want to uh tell everybody about our sponsor today and that is US yeah uh wanted to let you guys know if you haven't heard uh the kickstarter has wrapped up thank you guys for your support we do still have late pledges turned on um so if you think 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you get you got flight hotel room you know rides food drinks everything so yeah when you say rides we mean it sounded like we were going to go do like obviously we're going to cover your transportation inside DFW to get to the show and stuff like that yeah yeah yeah not we're not going to Six Flags I'm sorry to burst that bubble but I think I would die if I was on a roller coaster oh you're not a roller coaster guy uh I mean I did just kind of whatever man it's just whatever and the Six Flags in Texas is like still has wood roller coasters and it makes you feel like you've gone like you need spinal surgery afterwards it's just like a vertebrae compress it's rough out there dude I have I have never really been a roller coaster person and I I think this tracks to the first roller coaster I ever went on was the texus giant which was is a wooden roller coaster and it is a whiplash machine like that thing it is a oh it is horrendous and I was like why would people do this why is this fun like anyway I will go anywhere where there are roller coasters because they also typically do have like big turkey legs and I'm into that Vibe that's me that's me I'm GNA take the turkey leg I'm gonna take it home make a soup love it but the roller coaster itself I'm pretty good uh Adam I don't think I've ever been on like a proper roller coaster like nothing big never Loop to Loop nothing like that no fear height I'm not do a loop is pretty [ __ ] cool sweet I'd rather go to a water park personally but me too me too with water park in so long it's been ages dude uh I don't know if it's still open but there's one you know near us up here we got season passes and they don't really check very well so we could probably sneak one in for you let's just announce that live um all right so Adam The Mask usually punches down and doesn't fight anything uh on beetlejuice's level Beetlejuice seems a lot more liberal with his Tune Force and goes bigger and also gelon man apparently like has been contributing a lot with uh some mask knowledge so uh he mask brings out the person's inner ID if it's already out then the mask won't bond to that person yeah like when the mask Source on that I mean it bonded with it bonded with [ __ ] Lobo you know like that might be like it might be like Canon mask main Cannon mask is is that's how it works but it does I mean it I'm pretty sure it's been on like a murderer or something L Lobo did get even more violent when when he put on the mask like he was like wiping out like entire civilizations like back to back did he not already do that oh back to back okay yeah back he was going on a [ __ ] like killing spree uh yeah um I believe at that point it's called a genocide yeah Jesus Christ that's right Sam I was sort of avoiding that but yes genocide calls it like it is you know it's true it's true uh but you know who doesn't commit genocides Beetlejuice Beetlejuice is the hero here I don't know maybe we'll see maybe if he was like able to marry Lydia and stay on Earth he would have committed genocide but I I don't know he's more of a playful Scamp he's more of a goober um we don't know what happens in the new movie has anybody seen it yet maybe that's no no no don't no no no no spoilers don't say anything in the chat I'm literally going to go see it soon no it just came out it's not oh really I I I didn't really even know until we did this that it was coming out and I looked at the cast and I feel like like I don't know why but the Jenna Ortega thing bothers me just because I feel like they're just like hey we've got this spooky girl can we put her on everything spooky I was like oh right because she played Wednesday um she's in Wednesday she's in Scream she's got this now she is like kind of a modern day Jam Lee she's like no she's like move over hel in a bottom Carter like it's my time true uh uh we have another in the chat U Kino Kong Kagan um great point if beej says no need to hide behind that mask as a saying would the masks host remove it yes probably of course you're gonna say yes yes I know that for a fact I'm communicating telepathically with everyone that worked on Beetle Juice even remotely and they are all in UNIS saying yes I still I still want to exam because like I know that you brought up like the Lydia like she's in my mind thing but like that's still something that like comes in that that still like directly affects like Beetle Juice I'm wondering if there's an instance where he's like actually like said something to like third person like entirely separate from himself and it's worked um does anybody in the chat have that well all of his powers like his powers affect other people as well like uh I I guess I'd have to like look through the puns but um yeah Liam watch the whole cartoon right now in this last 20 minutes for however much time we have he turns a lot of people into like animals and stuff if I remember right from the cartoon things like the family into snakes and whatever oh yeah in the movie for sure the movie doesn't have any pun stuff and he does stuff to people all the time um you lost your mic for a second oh oh here it is I found it um uh yeah in the movie he does stuff to people all the time like almost selectively like does [ __ ] up to other people so yeah his powers affect others and multiple others at the same time which is yes interesting that's fair what do he realize that a Max though like I assume like if we just like drop them there and it's just like he just looks like he has a green head or something like uh like would he hop to that if if they're if we're both accepting that they both have like enough fourth wall awareness to know about each other and know each other's weaknesses then yeah he definitely would um but if not then uh I don't think it would take long for him to sort of explore options and see like oh how do I how do I mess with how do I how do I beat this guy um since with them both if we're going to accept the fact that they both understand the plot to a fourth level Beyond like just I know I'm in a movie but like I understand the concept of what's happening and yeah what form of media this is I don't know like would they just ignore the rules we have for a death battle and like buddy up and beat up the animator I feels more like on brand uh it depends yeah because I mean like I see it but at the same time like at least as far as the mask goes he just loves like violence he just loves beating things up so I he's never yeah I don't know he's never like done that in like the comics like solo yeah uh even against like Lobo but even if they did something like that I think the mask would immediately then turn go back to fighting right after right so it's like yeah he's got Love of the Game for sure yeah the mask is a serious serial killer um yeah I have a question I've seen some people in the chat talking about the Ghostbuster suit and I know we talked about it early on in terms of that but like like I know Beetle Juice has been like sucked into a vacuum before in the cartoon and then like popped out and it's whatever but like is that like like the like vac Ghostbusters Vacuum Pack thing it is like does that have is that like a little mini portable containment unit or is it just a like vacuum because if there's like a containment unit then there's an argu argument to be made that maybe he could trap Beetle Juice but uh I mean it's very let's see so we're looking for like a containment unit specifically it's probably just like I mean the way that you described it in the way that I'm imagining it it's probably just a gag where there's a ghost and he goes i' I know how to beat you and suck sucks him up um yeah he literally is ying out Banshee Busters uh I wonder what that's supposed to be a parody yeah yeah so like you know copyright free Ghostbusters is yeah and he's got like the suit on like like his Ghostbusters we know what he's talking about which maybe has containment unit if it's supposed to be a parody of that it it might have one I mean Max says ites contain it does contain a ghost um yeah yeah yeah he says but the ghost is released when the canister blows up so it's got something enough to make you not be able to pass through it right but then the question is this is the Ghost with the most right right well the question is that is like okay prevents ghosts from doing their little intangibility going through a wall thing but that doesn't necessarily prevent somebody like Beetlejuice who could just like teleport wherever he wants right yeah so yeah or clone himself because he can make clones of himself both in the cartoon and the musical so who's to say that he doesn't suck up like a clone of Beetle Juice and then the other seven beat the [ __ ] out we're we're completely leaving like the main Circle what we're talking about here to talk about Ghostbusters are there any ghosts who like just teleport out of the proton packs like does that happen I'm just gonna assume like for the sake of this that we'll equate them so well so the thing that's different here is like proton packs hold ghosts and then it's traps that contain them for a little bit until they get put into the containment unit so like they don't have a like sucky up thing actually Pro there probably is something in the cartoon now that I think about it but but in generally the proon packs you have to hold the ghost and then the Trap has to pull them in but we've absolutely seen in like uh Ghostbusters ver that sometimes ghosts are too strong for a proton pack and can get out of it and also sometimes they can like prevent themselves like it seems like a physical struggle for them like preventing themselves from getting sucked up into a trap so like it can be resisted okay okay apparently our Discord is saying that the Ghostbusters uh actually beat Beetlejuice which is [ __ ] unbelievable and I need to like after this find out what the [ __ ] how that is even possible um next week they were the good guys and was the bad guys it's easy so plot his plot awareness is not invulnerable if he's the bad guy he still has to lose that he's definitely going to be the bad guy compared to the mask obviously uh no I think the mask is more of a bad guy than the Beetle Juice yeah I guess it depends on the it depends on the this Canon mask is a is a monster is a nightmare yeah B seems like chaotic neutral right like he's yeah exactly there he just wants to [ __ ] around and be a ghost and scare people Al he's kind of getting job right like I mean he gets put on these tasks it's not literally he's a bio Exorcist yeah okay we're probably coming a little bit towards the end here I I don't want to do my final argument just yet but here's another one uh vo juice uh loves himself some women does he not and the mask is a Master of Disguise what's he gonna do what's he gonna do when the mask does classic uh Bugs Bunny gag of dressing up like a girl and all that and it's like like flirty and then bam anything proton P whatever it anything anything I don't think I don't think that anything can kill Beetle I don't think that anything that the mask has can like kill Beetlejuice I think that that's like a thing that we were sort of coming up against um the best he could do is like hack him into pieces um but then he could but then Beatle ju could just reattach those pieces it it only work so I wanted to actually I did want to ask because we were we were on that point a little bit earlier like does he have like a weakness to the Sun or something if like have not having his limbs together like when Sunrise hits like kills him not only does he not have a weakness to the sun he became the sun he became the sun okay yeah can you can you just like go supernova then and like destroy the entire Earth to get rid of probably I mean if he can turn into a constellation then then he definitely has enough like energy to to turn go into a supernova and destroy the planet whatnot um he he can grow to the size of a constellation so he would just grab the Earth and eat it and crush it into little bits also in the musical he can just point at things and instantly kill them justes to a bird just like and it dies it's pretty fair that's pretty fair yeah tively fair so I have a question on the dismemberment thing because I can absolutely see you know a little thing where the mask does a little little cartoon spinny thing and then Beetle Juice and he's like I'm going to give you a makeover let's see you you know like let me help you out with his arms or something and then like you know take takes him apart and like ah perfect and then what like I can absolutely picture the mask what happens if he just goes and just like eats one of his arms like uh I think the arm would break out I think the arm would go cuz the arm sorry uh oh yeah I was going to say like he has like done some stuff like that before he's just like yeah bitten off people's limbs oh God the limbs are sensient and I believe that that was the like thing in the episode is like why he couldn't just reattach them was because the limbs like wanted to leave I think the arm was like no [ __ ] you um so uh the limbs his limbs are sentient and would probably just like put a zipper on the mask's stomach and then open up and then rip him apart and there'd be blood everywhere and he'd be fine he'd come back from that no worries he'd come back from that but could he come back from being sent from being time traveled back to the dinosaur era probably I don't think there's anything that could kill him but it would take a while you just run really fast around the world yeah yeah uh so has the mask like where okay I don't know what where what else we got 10 minutes left Liam wins I I'm trying I'm trying I'm trying to think of uh you know like a good kill scenario but I mean like I don't know like has the mask ever like thrown anything into the sun because then maybe there's a point there you're like he grips off a limb and then eats it into the Sun but then he becomes the Sun and he goes out and eats it all right so the question is here because sadly with our job we we've looked into this stuff before does he become the actual son or is this like the raisin brand Sun thing where he's just a sunlike creature because the sun clearly still exists he's a sun esque being uh so I have I've only seen the screenshot of him as the sun it looks like he's the sun I've also seen one where he's the Moon uh but I I technically can't confirm that because I haven't seen the cartoon um Ken how about you hit how about you hit us with that final argument a final argument okay yeah so like a recap no it it's it's a this is a fantastic argument so Liam yeah yeah I have some beef with you that I need to clear up right now and that's what we're gonna do okay okay so months ago Liam I wanted to do John Wick versus Beatrix k kiddo and I requested you to be my opponent and you like the little [ __ ] you are got sick and you didn't show up and I had this very special argument prepared for my final closing argument and you weren't here for me to administer that so not only am I gonna pull out some ad hominin here it's also complete nonse now but I can't let this go okay so Mike can you pull up this image that I sent you please in the world docs Liam any Liam thinks that John Wick 4 is worse than Indiana Jones and the do of Destiny and the flash his opinions cannot be trusted I been sitting on this since I think it was like April or something Liam I've wanted to publicly roast you about this on Cass for so long uh what is this man how dare you don't listen to what he says guys he doesn't know what he's talking about I walked out of the movie theater John for I don't think it's worse necessarily than Indiana Jones or the flash uh that's just like a general like cover in your ass cover in your ass no I thought I did not enjoy it I did not have a good time uh yeah I did not I had no fun I walked out of the movie I got bored I walked out of the movie theater absolute absolute no you the flash I I actually did enjoy the first like third some said show dog so what scene did you walk out in I never asked that what scene was it I I I didn't walk out though I didn't also didn't see it in movie theaters I you just said I didn't walk okay so his whole point was that you can't be trusted and then your your first instinct was to lie I didn't walk out of the flash I didn't walk out of the flash I walked out of oh okay but I didn't walk out of the flash did you get to the top down sequence did you get to the stairs where did you leave I have to know I don't know I got to the part where everything every single fight was like exactly the same kind of oh no I I I I did no I did watch the last part of it afterwards um I did watch the last part of it afterwards just to finish it off I think like a couple months later because I was like I should you didn't watch the part where they're like fighting in like the big streets with all the cars going around the circle and he's throwing them into cars it's awesome and like the dog is running C of you didn't watch that it's okay it's I'm putting the poll up chat can help us oh hit the I hit the button okay I also I had a final argument before we jumped into this ad homm non Seer uh just in case because people were talking about scaling The Mask to Lobo which we did in the episode so it's valid um uh Beetlejuice appeared in Te titans's go and killed all the members of the Teen Titans Go in one with one swing of his axe he just killed all of them um Teen Titans Go is like the Teen Titans Cartoon force and if you want to like go even further with the scaling uh Teen Titans Go raise Ren actually absorbs the power she just eats comic book Raven in this one sequence and we know it's a comic we know it's comic book Raven because the comic book versions of them are all speaking with like comic book panels um and it's like the different Ravens of the multivers um each comic book Raven scales to comic book Raven if you want to bring up Lo mask scaling to Lobo you got to talk about Beetle Juice scaling to potentially [ __ ] comic book Raven okay I mean from when I saw CU I saw this brought a couple times and I know jel man specifically said that he got defeated by the Teen Titans Go the Beetle Juice was maybe at the end I mean you can I mean every regular people can defeat him by saying his name three times but he did kill all three of them in one blow so he is physically capable of killing the Teen Titus go got it yeah D Matt did Max give you that argument I assume so yes everything that I have said today was given to me by this is just max versus max actually bro batt Broz cuz he cuz he like included that in the document he said me and then I was like he might argue this so prepare an argue it he didn't even give me anything that's funny it's close right now in the polls it's been going back that's ridiculous I [ __ ] I like rocked this yeah I don't care who votes I won I mean sorry Sam Sam what are how are you how are you feeling I'm voting Beetle Juice I think yeah yeah I mean it's just up it's just up to the chat now but yeah you're just you're feeling Beetle Juice I'm also I'm I'm 5050 and so I just thought which movie would I rather watch and it's Beetle Juice So M too loud for you yeah carries a little much B just hopefully is getting a better sequel than the M dead I mean it's a pretty easy bar to step over like for sure um but I mean dude with the we've had Borderlands and the crow and it's been on there's been a street going also Man Minecraft movie looks real weird uh but I don't know I I think like I think Liam did a real good job and brought in a lot of interesting stuff and I as far as this debate today I'm thinking that Beetlejuice is the one that takes it so but we'll we'll see this seems like a really fun episode that we could actually do even though Le you one of versus the Ghostbusters but I think yeah I think that one would be interesting as long as people aren't bullshitting me with this Ghostbusters win stuff because if Ghostbusters like can at least contend it's it's it's awesome that's oh it's killing um but if they just get wiped then it's like what's the point right like I think it would be very fun to do Beetlejuice versus the Ghostbusters and then when the Ghostbusters are getting absolutely trounced they go to the old chest of ancient relics in the corner of their room and pull out the mask that would be the fun way to do it just do them both Sebastian in the chat says I don't think either one actually has a way to kill the other uh no you can probably kill the mask yeah all right y'all I'm gonna end the poll here and it is 50/50 which means YouTube's going to decide with that weird 1% It takes away so let's see what happens oh Liam you got robbed you oh yoube stole itely won every like opinion invalid because of John Wick four I don't care I walked out I don't have to watch movies I don't like I don't I don't pay to I don't pay to not enjoy movies it's terrible I I don't know where that 1% goes uh but it man that really bit you in the ass there Liam it goes to my heart Chad because that's the second time that 1% is saf me in a debate all right well there you have it the sorry leam though you did a great job it's no I I I won so definitively that I do not you absolutely did I've won now but you absolutely won like definitely no this now that it's over like absolutely wins you know who really wins Max Max wins Max wins also you know you know who else wins um the people viewing that hit the like button because we're metag gaming our content more hit the like button thank you for watching death Outcast the very end of the show hit that like butt you stayed to right now I think we earned it I think we earned it gang hit that button um and then yeah I don't know I think it should be our new sign off that we just 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