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good morning Brian this is typical Washington fans every time something come up you got to be a complaint immediately I'm not complaining it's not West Field I like Northwest field they are NW and you look at Northwest Federal Credit the NW stands out so they're just calling it Northwest Stadium it looks like there we go all right you look at what what what's produced all the time the NW is what what is very prominent whenever you discuss them here's where I'm at I've I've I've made this my my bed to late in since the removal of Dan Snider and since the new guys are there cool sell the rights we'll call it the then that other team that other person should have stepped up but Northwest Federal Credit Union stepped up with the chatter I don't care they like you know what they did they did what functional professional sports teams do yes they had a they had a naming rights change you know where that happens the Pittsburgh Steelers like that that just happens good teams change the naming rights yeah and it's great now you know we'll get used to it it'll take a little getting used to Northwest Stadium sounds cool with me um but more more than all this is just what functional sports franchises do yeah they did that and it was eight-year deal and I then people so you the question is eight years let's let's just bring something up people you won't be getting a new stadium till 2030 any damn way and that's best case probably yeah so the whole thing about it is let's not make things out to be like it's so out there that if you were to get a brand new stadium it's going to take about three four five years to build it and none of that stuff has even started yet and they have a a lease that ends in what 20 what 27 but Josh Harris Sunday afternoon at yeah he said about he said 2030 seems real seems real and I if I had to guess that's the big carrot to all this for Northwest stadium is they prob maybe get right a first refusal at the new joint to carry over and get naming rights there um but to me the timeline kind of adds up yeah um I think they're probably paying a lot of money they've already been a sponsored don't they sponsor your pre so they clearly like the product they're getting they definitely do um but like I walked in this is just good normal business news so I showed up to the game the other night right around 8:15 I walk in I get my little p my credential I'm walking through and I'm like damn it looks better they have changed a lot of stuff inside that stadium and I think the ultimate thing is they're trying to change they had a whole like a food tour where they had different foods and things in there they are trying to make sure that the fan is going to be able to go there and enjoy themselves unlike how it was Prior I thought we don't care a lot of that stuff looked good iing or not we not add nothing now they concourses where you could walk through and grab a beer a soda and some peanuts whatever you want to grab and I think they just scan your phone on the way out you know how much that should speed things up yeah for folks to just want to grab something rather than having a wait in line when you walk to the from the field to the Press Box you notice all a different stuff on the walls and it just looks more like livable it seems like it's something real it was like a damn dungeon before yeah well and dude you couldn't help but notice that all the signage all the old FedEx signage was down was incredibly not they not getting they're not paying any more money they can't get no Free Press well and that like I think you know the color scheme I I know a previous person that came here to work on the business side and then left fairly quickly because it was we're talking I'm talking like seven eight years ago because it was clearly pretty broken and they they described the color scheme at FedEx field as the inside of a very cheap Mexican chain resta you remember how many different colors there were like it didn't make any sense like why is there turquoise prominently involved at a stadium that houses the burgundy of gold you know what I mean and I think they're getting away with all that stuff um yo if if you're a commanders fan today you know the good news they're just doing what normal sports franchises do yeah the Pittsburgh Steelers I I think you could argue seriously they've had three Co coaches in a 100 years yeah a ton of Super Bowl wins sorry I'm all steamed up about this Stadium deal um they have Mike tomlin's never had a losing record the Steelers are like the perfect example of organizational stability and a well-run team totally and you know what happened to Pittsburgh do you know where they play now where nobody knows or cares because it was hin field forever and now it is Acure Stadium but see this is the thing about it when you when you're and I we say this and I know people like the downplay when you say winning Cur is all yeah people like oh no it doesn't yes it does because when the Steelers change their name the fans can give a damn about that why because the product on the field has been good and the thing about right now is you got people coming in doing what real owners do but soon as something happens we go back to what the bad owner did instead of giving credit for it move forward hey the name who really care the name don't get you no victories so the team getting better is gonna get you victories but this is a normal thing and it shouldn't come into the oh man why did they go with that person and you know some people gonna say that and I think I think they'll think just like me give a one finger so keep moving Jeff do you know where the Chiefs play Candlestick no no that's all that's what's called that's the that's old San 25 years ago Arrowhead Arrowhead as a matter of fact it's GHA field at Arrowhead Stadium and guess what it's still awhad right like if you're good the business operations do not matter so sell the naming rights I don't I don't know a ton about Northwest Federal Credit Union I'm sure they're great people I don't care that's it's the best part sell it and now everybody can call it Northwest stadium and this is what functional organizations do yeah I I and and what have we what have we complained about for the last 20 plus years the lack of fun organization and now we got it let's let's let's praise it let's applaud it um yo I've been tipped off to a possibly very good name for the stadium very good nickname what's that the fed I'm into that hey man whatever they call it that's money going into their pockets I care about the commanders winning that's what I care about well and I think that'll solve a lot of things get people mind on the right stuff instead of the wrong stuff um I I think that's fair I listen this is what functional organizations do I don't know anything about this bank and I hope they're great people I can tell you this if they're buying naming rights of a stadium it's a damn successful Bank sure I can tell you that I let me I here's a question that I don't know that any of the four of us know the answer here what is the difference between a credit union and a bank don't no they both have moneyl that to us they both have a lot of money Jeff go ahead and uh give us a brief explanation on the difference between a credit union in a bank I'm gonna google it yeah that that's what I was about to do I was about to say hold on let me I just wanted you to shoot from the hip Jeff I wanted you to let the world know nope I'm not not you got one um not really okay all right well we we've clearly uh it is like with the word Union is the credit Union ran more by the uh people that are members I think a private entity is owned by the people that like have accounts there and maybe they're not filing they're not publicly traded and trying to you know because banks are determined by their quarterly profits or whatever right maybe we'll get an expert because I don't know that the four of us are um but we're not here's what we could tell you the commander officially just tweeted this out there you go um new St new stadium naming rights deal Reed from the press release the Washington commanders and Northwest Federal Credit Union today announced a new multi-year exclusive naming rights agreement for the football team stadium bringing together two institutions with a storied history in the region and Community the agreement which marks a new chapter for the Washington commanders will Rebrand the team's home from commanders field to Northwest Stadium on September 15th the two organizations will officially kick off the extension and expansion of their existing partnership through a joint press press conference at the stadium before the Commander's home opener um a quote from Josh Harris then I'm going to stop reading this because it's kind of boring Northwest Federal Credit Union has been an integral part of this community for generations and we could not be prouder to partner with an organization as committed to the DMV as we are as we continue to work toward our toward our goal of building the commanders into an elite franchise that consistently competes for championships we are excited to welcome our team and fans the Northwest stadium and look forward to creating incredible memories together on the field and in the communities we serve huzzah make it work fellas congratulations Norwest all right credit unions and banks are different than this credit unions are not for profit banks are there you have it these guys aren't even for profit here you go and like the banks like L you stated it the banks are ran by you know the the shareholders Credit Unions Bam are the members well I don't want to go too far down this road but if you're not in it for profit why do you need publicity and naming rights but today is a day of Celebration so congratulations to all parties involved they are official the NFL was not for profit until a couple years ago they they they seem to be doing okay were they not profiting let's be real man they seem to be doing okay it is nothing different than anything that's been going on yeah I I think it's great I think it's great that like the operation FedEx said yo we're out all right good luck I appreciate you doing business I understand that everything went sideways with the last guy we're not the last guy but we understand you're out and we're that's that we understand you have a option in your lease to be out this is normal business and they gave meduses well they don't even have to they could have given them a very Hardy pat on the back and and a and a handshake because they ultimately knew that somebody else gonna take over and then we're like we're gonna sell this to somebody else and we're good I I think it's business operations running like they should for a professional organization and I think it's great news I think you have to be forward thinking and I think that's what Northwest Federal Credit Union was they were Forward Thinking last year when they came in I met the uh CEO and all talking to them and you can see what those people weren't worried about what happened you know I was riding my son when I was in California and he was talking we were talking about some stuff and he go I said man look at that what you looking at right here said Riv mirror I said what's in front of it he said windshield I said which one is the biggest that's what you care about care about the future to hell what happen let's worry about what's going to happen and they were thinking about that and I think FedEx was thinking about what had happened so they lost somebody else's game I think maybe FedEx wants to get something in closer to them to who knows dude who honestly I don't care the most refreshing part with all business news coming do you know the one thing I find the most interesting in this press release and this is like the nerdy side of me um it's a joint date line with two locations on it one is no surprise one is Landover Maryland that's the home of yeah Northwest Stadium I'm going to have to get used to saying that um do you know the other location listed on this press release and it's not the home of Northwest Stadium or or the actual Credit Union because I don't know where they're based is it Ashburn no Maryland I mean over by University of Maryland nope I don't know it may be landfill's address I can't remember landfill's are you Ashburn Landini I can't remember if he's Sterling or somewhere else it says Landover Maryland and hearnen Virginia they're definitively in Ashburn yeah but there may be something ined I just find that kind of interesting can can Josh have something that's uh uh partnership or something that's inher I I don't I have no idea B PO Box I don't think the organization operates with a PO Box Jeff but I'm not ruling it out bud I wouldn't be surprised if they I guarantee they got a PO box somewhere inside that damn organization maybe that's where Northwest Federal Credit Union could be is based although it's pretty hard to get a base for like just an address for these folks now the bank they may be operating with a PO Box Jeff uh but anyway if you just got in your car and you missed the news all right I think they're located in hearnen and that's why you got hearnen on here um if you missed news the artist formerly known as FedEx Field sheo uh FedEx pulled out in the spring I want to say um and the commanders for a very brief period of time operated the stadium as Commander field and news just emerged this morning the stadium will now be called Northwest Stadium um sponsored by Northwest Federal Credit Union uh this is cool man I think it looks like it's just going to be called Northwest Stadium we can get used to that good news on a on a day where there's going to be a lot of actual Football news this is a good little appetizer a good little uh a good little kick kick off to cut day um obviously we're going to be looking at the cuts all day uh we do have Mike Jones joining us from the athletic in in just a minute there's something kind of remarkable happening um specific to roster rules and quarterbacks that Mike has been all over that I I want to let him talk about in depth uh barcel Nate's going to join us at 11: we'll have Nicki javala at 1 and I think by 1:00 things are really going to be heating up with these cuts and we'll kind of um we should know a lot the crazy part about cut day is people get so amped up and I want to start here and we'll go around the room um for years and years and years commanders fans get amped up about what's going to happen on Cut day and because of the excitement of Northwest Stadium I didn't formally say good morning to lill and J good morning gentlemen um we get so amped up amped up amped up Washington today will release 37 players right they get from 90 to 53 is math right on that um approximately a little more than a third of their roster of their existing roster now they're GNA try to sign a bunch of those guys back practice squad right and they're gonna that's up to 17 I mean these rosters huge 70 damn people on the team Dan Quinn said he's like dude we don't think of it as a 53 anymore we think of it as 70 because you have so much flexibility to bring guys up and down um but Above All Else they're going to cut a bunch of guys over under 1.5 players that are released by Washington claimed by other teams in waivers not once waivers clears once guys become free agents but in wavers this is something commanders fans have always been so worried about oh man we're going to lose this guy we're going to lose that guy and the recent history nobody actually gets I think I think now it'll be over I think it'll be over on the 1.5 because I think they brought more talent in two Camp than they usually do I I don't know Jeffrey 1.5 over under guys getting signed that they release because that's when you start to know you have quite a good roster it hasn't been since I think 2020 they've had a guy if we look at some of these positions and some of these battles you have to believe that somebody is gonna get picked up somewhere else just like they may let them go and pick up somebody from some other team I I certainly think they're going to be looking at other teams and I got my eye specifically on two guys that were released in Dallas I'll tell you about that at 10:45 one and a half Jeffrey I'm GNA go over this this ownership has been kind of aggressive in their moves and I know they want to fill those positions as soon as possible before any other team you know tries to get those players that they really want hold on I I'm not even trying to do a bit here I'm saying guys that Washington cuts that other teams will sign okay okay um Jeff really missed assignment on this one under under under under uh Landini uh yeah I'm also going under I just I don't think the roster's that good I think two years from now if if the drafts go the way Adam Peters wants them to you'd like to be in a scenario where three four guys are getting claimed that they have to release I I just I worry about the bottom of depth charts kind of across the roster I do think one guy I'm fascinated with today and I don't know that what happened Sunday night helps him is Cole Turner and I think if he gets released I think that's a guy that could get claimed um I don't know what running back the the running back scenario across the league there's so many decent to good backs that are just going to become available this afternoon um o line is always going to be a major question but there are guys like we don't know what's going to happen with a player like feder and matthys today right and that's the thing about it you have to look at these people where they were being raid by not just this team but teams around the league that's what I was GNA say you have two to three you have guys that are from this year all the way back two to three years that other teams still when they R him as second rounders and third rounders they still see them like that and they may be wanting to come and get these guys so I still believe it'll be better because I think Adam and Dan were more selective than who they brought in Camp compared to what Ron did Ron B him people that he likeed people that did not have any any inkling of trying to question and Ron insisted on kind of keeping his draft picks over time yeah right and and I think that has changed I I think people waiting for this big move coming today I think it happened last week with the Johan doson trade but we'll see this is GNA be a fun day we've already had breaking news fed xfield now known as Northwest Stadium uh more breaking news coming promise Mike Jones Next e e e e e e e e e e e e this sports update is brought to you by Floor and Decor unbeatable prices unmatched in stock selection so the big news of the day thus far is that the commanders will now play their GES at Northwest Stadium the commanders in Northwest Federal Credit Union have reached a naming rights agreement there is some new information coming out about the deal though so this deal does not include any options on a potential new stadium this deal is 8 years and the agreement does not preclude Washington from opening a new stadium sooner than the expiration of this deal so unless Washington decides to open up a new stadium for the next 8 years the commanders will be playing at Northwest stadium and today is cutdown day in the NFL that means that rosters must be at 53 by 4 p.m. so we are going to keep updating you as the news rolls in today so expect a lot of breaking news from us Flor and Decor has more styles of laminate vinyl tile wood and stone for anyone looking for the right look at the right price your next beautiful space is at Flor and Decor from the crop medcap F Star Sports desk Savannah aan on the fan all right obviously there is uh breaking news the commanders they've sold Stadium naming rights to Northwest Federal Credit Union that's cool we'll get used to saying that as the football season progresses but I'd argue the Wilder Sports business deal that just got done that Amazon has signed the Kelsey Brothers to aund million deal for their podcast holy moly um I'm sure it's a great podcast you saw that coming though I I I I would think Taylor Swift has something to do with that but what do I know um that's their their thing is damn good it totally is and but it'si yeah but like Taylor is not sitting on the podcast with them no but I think I think Travis has way more eyeballs on him now because of the Taylor Swift relationship but his brother is the brains behind his whole I agree with that um the brains behind our next conversation is going to be Mike Jones from the athletic uh want to talk to Mike here um Josie what's up dude how are you how you guys doing today you fired up to to drive to Northwest Federal Credit Union Stadium Northwest field nor Northwest Stadium JP like be funny yeah I mean is it I mean it just seems weird right I mean it's Northwest Stadium but it's not in Northwest it's in Maryland I mean I mean I don't know I I hear you but Hines Field is now called Acer Arrowhead stadiums technically GHA it's about whoever has the funds Mike Whoever has the F with the money man well get a B Mitch Stadium man come on B hey no well and Jonesy I wonder just want an island you might agree with this after being out there for so long you covered this team through so much I just like that they're just normal people making normal business deals at this point like this is just business as usual for a professional sports production right right no and that's that's the thing I mean for so long we've had you know to to watch and fans have had to endure somebody who didn't really care about running this like a business they knew that people were going to buy tickets and they it was basically like they were just like well we can be lazy with this we can be cheap but you can tell that the new ownership is really invested in making this a desirable location they're hoping to make it a venue that is featuring successful and entertaining football and you know yes Josh Harris grew up rooting for this team but he's also a businessman and he likes to make money and so he's doing all the things that you have to do if you want to be a successful uh franchise owner they bought this team at 6.05 billion it appraised at 6.3 billion a few months later and I think they understand if you want to get out of what you expect you got to put something into it yep exactly right and that's what we're seeing you know with the the upgrades to the stadium and you know it was almost you would have thought the way that Snyder let that Stadium be you would have thought that they were you know getting ready to roll into a new stadium next year the year after but they're going to be stuck within the stadium for a little while now and so Josh Harris is like all right let's fix stuff up let's make it nice take care of our house our home while it's still our home rather than just letting it continue to fall apart you got C Luther van right now A House Is Not a Home I put some love into that thing man that's what they're doing um all right Mike I I wanted to talk to you so obviously we're gonna have cut day today and it's across the NFL everybody's got to get from 90 all the way down to 53 um you had an interesting article though about kind of some of the changes that I believe it was the union push back um specific to quarterbacks right can can you get us up to speed on a fairly important change that might not be top of mind for folks yeah and this was something that was they they discussed back in the spring between the owners and the players union and then the NFL sent out a memo like just before the start a training camp uh to remind teams but you there was a proposal to have the third quarterback the emergency quarterback basically a 504th player um have him on your practice squad or whatever rather than a part of your roster spot so you could use a roster spot for somebody else rather than a third string guy that most likely was not going to play or dress um but the the players union pushed back on that saying no because you know what's to keep you from taking and stashing a guy there and basically keeping him there all year long without the potential to move up basically also just to you know save some money and also keep him from other teams they didn't like that so they pushed back on that that was not something they agreed to and so now your third quarterback has to be um you know on your roster or you have to just decide to carry two quarterbacks and then hope that somebody doesn't pluck whatever quarterback you have on your practice squad away from you well you look at the difference uh if they're on practice squad they make $212,000 they're on if they're on the roster they make 700 something thousand and you you can't tell me that these owners and the NFL wasn't thinking about trying to keep that Lo keep that down around the league yep exactly and players know that and the players I think the league is there to protect the players and this is what they're do I mean the Union is there to protect the players and that's what they're doing yep exactly and and that's what you know because I sent text and checked in with the number of guys who are in leadership with the union and they felt like this was something that was basically keeping a ceiling on some players and they're earning opportunities and that is not exact not at all what they want and so uh good for them for standing up for their players look if you want to have three quarterbacks on your team pay the man like he's a quarterback on your roster and stop trying to be cheap and skate by but you know I look at this thing okay so 199 they had a game plan if we ever have to go down to the third quarterback B Mitch you're going to be our quarterback we practiced and did everything here it is now 30 plus years later and you still can't have look it's a lot of former quarterbacks on football teams and they like they they say well the product go way down well hell if you lose both of your quarterbacks in the game the product gonna be down if you got your third quarterback in there so you and you got people 30 something years later that still don't have somebody on their rout so that can go out there and run offense and you could call somebody up Saturday night now like that rule change has made it that rule change to me makes this request particularly egregious well I think and that's what the I think the players union was like look dude you already have him on your practice squad you know and all week long he's a practice squad guy then you bring him up and then he you know he does have to get a game check but there're like you already have a way to work around this why do you have to have another exception uh to SU your purposes there and again they felt like it was a way to just keep somebody um or stash somebody rather than give somebody an opportunity to actually be a part of the 53 man roster and be compensated like he deserved so there really was no reason for this the rule today they can be called up three times then you have to sign him to actual roster spot the rule that they wanted you can call him up as often as you wanted which means that they were screwing them basically right um y talking with our friend Mike Jones from the athletic National n writer for the athletic uh you can follow him on X and Instagram bymike Jones uh cut day today Jonesy any any real like surprises You're Expecting not necessarily in Washington but even League wide I I you know we're already starting to see Allen Robinson getting released by the Giants that's a guy that had a lot of success now it's been a few years but it it you know the it's gonna continue rolling all day yeah there's going to be that one I'm really curious is like down in Houston where they've got a lot of wide receivers and Robert Woods is a guy that's been on their team he was on the team last year he's a veteran and he's still got something left in the tank I was told by a couple different Talent evaluators on other teams that they would be kind of keeping an eye to see what happens there whether it be uh the Texans calling around saying hey will you give us like you know a really late round pick for him or if he gets cut there will be teams that would pick him up you know so there's going to be veterans that were at a position where they're maybe have you know a number of young guys or some cheaper guys or some draft picks that they like that really it was just going to be hard for them to get onto the field and so those are the guys that you know will some of these guys will be on the street by the end of the day and can catch on with a team and have an opportunity to help them well for selfish reasons are any left tackles you think are worthwhile playing that we gonna it's gonna be released sadly people don't part with good left tackles and so I don't think you're gonna find one of those guys on the street I I think that's correct the good left tackles the only team that has parted with a really good left tackle in the last I don't know five six years is burgundy of gold and that was team that was a complicated scenario but yeah um Jonesy before we let you go dude this is League wide but it also happens to be here what' you think of that Jan doson trade um you know I was a little surprised by it because I thought that he had some talent and when I asked around you know people felt like look yes a good player they just didn't like his they said there was no juice there they didn't like his energy the way that he approached the game and so um they were willing to trade him to a divisional rival we'll see how he does catching on there in Philly I think it's a good situation for him because look if you have two monsters AJ Brown and Devonte Smith on the outsides and you can operate in the slot there and I have Dallas Goddard as a really good tight end there's going to be opportunities for you there but maybe this is a wakeup call for him and an opportunity for him to learn okay look I need to approach this more as professional bring a more of a sense of urgency um and that is something that you know was definitely the people the decision makers in Washington were looking for and they weren't seeing it with him well I talked to about five different Eagle fans yesterday and like they said come here and play you're okay if you don't we'll let you know so exactly the approach better change I can tell you that yep for sure and look maybe it's good for him um he played you know uh college ball in Pennsylvania he'll be back you know kind of similar stomping grounds um but you again look if you don't capitalize on this right here again because those guys outside of him are gonna command so much attention he has saquon Barkley coming out of the backfield Jaylen Herz who's a dual threat the opportunities are there you got to make good on this opportunity and you can be a really you know successful player in this league if you do Mike Jones from the athletic check him out at by Mike Jones Jones you think Jaden Daniels could deliver I think so um you know we'll see how they do protecting him but he does have the skill set um I think he's got the accuracy the mindset and the right approach um it's just all about how they support him uh I cannot wait to find out man real football is coming Mike thank you for the time brother thanks I'll see you guys all right mik take care two we buildup baby Mike Jones does a hell of a job for the athletic covered this Washington for years Washington Post give a follow at bike Jones alltime good guy a collection of good guys is is not just at the athletic and Washington Post those covering the commanders it's with Orman Automotive Group of 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Alan Robinson has made a pro bowl Allen Robinson played his college ball at Penn State now alen Robinson's 31 right he just turned 31 last week he hasn't had a particularly good season in some time um there's been some injuries I thought he was going to be really good for the Rams when they acquired him it didn't go that way um last year playing for the Steelers he played in all 17 games and only had 280 receiving yards that quarterback situation was pretty bad though but still I mean that that's a guy in 2020 went for 1,250 yards um six touchdowns a year prior to that he had 1100 yards seven touchdowns Robinson's the first guy that I'm like huh these guys don't have experience at the receiver position they don't have a lot of size at the receiver position y I don't know that that's at all a Target but of the names that are starting to emerge today but nothing wrong with going out there and uh taking a look right I think you saw that them they took a look with um Bryant and then they gave him shots on on Sunday and I'm sure I mean Friday after the game on Friday people are saying I mean I'm going all the way s what Sunday Sunday I'm all damn place I'm sure people are going oh yeah we need to see him see some more of that uh two players that I'm watching Dallas released yesterday I believe um Eric Scott is a corner they drafted in the sixth round um last year 23 you've got the defensive coordinator and the defensive passing game coordinator the secondary coach from Dallas when this guy was drafted he's now released this team they're currently coaching Dan Quinn and Joe wit I think you could argue there there's some there's a lack of clarity at the bottom of the cornerback room true I that to me as a guy to watch Eric Scott but you also have to understand and I think a lot of people get upset at this sometime but coaches are going to they know what they want and they know if they're familiar with somebody they gonna give that person a chot a shot they might not either this just I'm just saying they may but and and you can't get upset at that because I know I heard someone say oh well people complain about Ron and I don't think Joe is bring him over the heill people there's another guy Junior foko was a fourth round last year out of San Jose State um these are guys that didn't play and foko had a injury in the Cowboys last preseason game so I don't know how that will impact that all I'm saying is these are two players that last year Dan Quinn and Joe wit must have liked like it was only a year ago and with that and and I think there there's some interesting information out there if you look at um specifically Dan Quinn and Eric Scott kind of the Bond kind of how he spoke about him but this is what's going to happen on cutte man there's there's going to be a lot of kind of moving Parts um you know there another thing we're gonna see now I thought I'm curious what you think B I thought Kade York looked pretty damn good the other night the kicker they just traded for yeah all you can do is make your kicks you make if you make your kicks you get you know what when you make your kicks you get another look and if you make enough of them if you miss one people remember that you were better you were good more often than not he was you can't miss more than you make he was two or two on field goals two or two on extra points hey that's 100% right right um so he deserves another shot he made a 34 Y and he made a 33 y uh he's got plenty of leg I don't we can't complain about him not making a 40 or 50 because he had didn't have to try to make one at this point would you bring a I don't think you're signing another kicker to your 53 I think in two days after waiver clear then you maybe see who's out there and you add a kicker to your practice squad kind of keep the competition going yeah if you if you if there's somebody that has a history of uh B because like sometime the guys get a little older or they just like when you go up to uh pra to become a kicker in um Baltimore you basically know you're not making the team you're not beating out uh Tucker but you what but you go up there and you try to get all the experience you can so somebody else will say well that guy was over there with John Harbor and his crew but we'll give him a shot but you know you're not making it but the ultimate thing in this situation is if they could pull somebody out with experience that happens to get released because somebody else there was better and had been there longer then you give that a shot but if not go along with the guy you got he went out when he needed to do it and he did it so I am not I think the big headline move of this training camp prese season was last week's trade of jond dots yeah now there could be another headline coming today okay um will any release will any news from today cut day amount to a bigger news pop than the announcement of the stadium naming rights deal I kind of say no today no I I would say no I I I'm not expecting something to come out today that's gonna be so big that we kind of just say Throw That on the side although everything that happens on the football field should be bigger than what the stadium right is like to that point in my book right but like standing is the first person I'm seeing reporting this the commanders are releasing Davon Davis Northwest Federal Credit Union Stadium okay matters more in the big picture of in a big picture yeah um all right we're just getting warmed up barcel Nate joins us next e e e e e e e e e e e e this sports update is brought to you by Prince George's Community College the big news of the day is that the Washington commanders announced a new 8year stadium rights agreement with Northwest Federal Credit Union so the commanders will now play all of their home games at Northwest stadium so this is an 8year long deal it's going to run through the 3132 season but it's only for this current Stadium but the standers are allowed to move stadiums during these eight years so it'll only be Northwest stadiums so long as it the it is the stadium they are in right now but nobody says that they can't move and try a new place so the other news of the day today is cutdown day in the NFL rosters have to get to 53 Men by 400 p.m. the commanders some news starting to come out just a little bit here Ben standing reporting that the commanders are releasing Deon Davis per Source get a degree certificates or take an enrichment course live within six miles of MGM will you could go for free the local impact Grant makes it possible visit pgcc.edu for more information and to explore the freedom to learn from the crop medcap festar Sports desk Savannah Mancan on the fan Vision you are the one bch Finley 1067 the fan you hear that song time to talk to our guy Mr Eric Nathan bar stool Nate Little Nate x uh Nate dog you gonna be there week two Jaden Daniels home opener at Northwest Stadium baby JP you watching you have a panic attack over the stadium name on Twitter this morning has been very very entertaining I don't know the panic attacks something what do we call the new stadium that name is way too long it's Northwest Stadium JP it's the same length as the old stadium well that was before they said what they wanted to call it if you give it the whole name it's way too long but I like calling it The Fed uh said the bank Northwest Stadium's not bad Jeff's trying to make up the West as a thing we can't call it the bank it's not a it's not a bank that's true the union you got to call it the union baby everybody loved the Union in college did you not that's true all right there we go that's true uh at Maryland they got Chick-fil-A after I graduated which is kind of an in yeah we had Chick-fil-A I I'm keep calling the stadium a dump because it's a complete dump even though they've made great improvements which I was thinking about this guys did the Harris group know the the the length they would have to go to to make the stadium even like a little bit playable like Dan Snider did not put a single Penny into that stadium for 20 years and just left it just falling apart in every single way it's it it it's crazy that they put what 75 to hundred million dollars into the old FedEx field now and it's still probably the worst stadium in football it's we were there the other night and we walked around and I I mean I don't they've made some significant improvements to kind of like the like the best example I could think of is you know if you go to like a old roow house like Capitol Hill or or or Hill East or something and those joints were built 100 120 years ago some of them but if you if you try to gut the inside you can make it just more modern and livable yeah like just walking I I made a point of walking the entire Concourse of the lower level and it seemed to have much more flow you're still gonna have it's still an old stadium but I find it like did they know these dudes are between Harris rails Blitzer like the top line of these guys like these are multi-billionaires that have run businesses internationally for decades like I bet they knew what they were biting off honestly yeah it's seeing all the upgrades it looks and people were saying the sound system is better the the seats are better you know the concourses the VIP sections and then we get the news that you know or he says in the press conference that he's looking at what 20 30 30 for the new stadium which it's realistic feels forever from now but I do think time will fly and I think when the new doors open on the new stadium the the collective sigh of relief and just the excitement that we're all gonna have no matter if it's in DC Maryland or Virginia just getting out of what what are we saying Northwest field and getting into Stadium northwestwest Stadium I I'm that's going to take a while to get used to but yeah I I'm so ready for the new stadium I'm so ready to turn that corner we've turned a lot of great Corners with coaching staff front office and all of that I think the stadium is the biggest one out of everything bigger than the team name bigger than anything just getting a a a stadium that people love and want to go to to root the team on is bigger than anything but in the process they've done a lot of work over here at this stadium and I think that is going to also resonate with people if they were doing nothing I can understand but they're doing stuff to make that more comfortable and uh feasible for for fans as well so that should help yeah definitely helps I mean it couldn't get much worse so any dollar they put into it definitely definitely helps I would anticipate them the next Stadium probably would be some level of a dome you would think Jay I think they want and if it's a dome it's gonna take a minute I don't think the I don't think the actual construction so I mean the real holdup here if they were content to stay in Maryland they can probably start construction within a year westmore's gung-ho there is money on the table to stay in Maryland the holdup is beyond their control it is the carpet bagging politicians that invade our city every two four or six years and and the song they here every day do they don't leave right a good point they arrive perhaps every two four or six years it's like and and Harris I thought was really diplomatically honest about this when he talked about the new stadium Sun night that yo I'm not in the business of predicting politics in Washington but we are hopeful that in November or December the lame duck congress and now you just need it done with the Senate we we'll get this thing done and it's and then if that happens think about the bureaucratic red tape involved with the park service and the uh the federal land Bureau whatever they're called like there's just so many hurdles but the hurdles are worth it if you get that site if not frankly I think they just build a new joint right next to it and land over yeah yeah I 100% agree and I mean bless the lawyer who gets to work this out I mean he's billing his hours non-stop Around the Clock trying to man woman is rich oh my goodness I can't I mean I I chose to be a blogger over a corporate lawyer but uh man I might be regretting that right now all right um so we are at cut day we are a little less than two weeks out from the regular season opener um you've watched all three preseason games um the the biggest move I don't think the biggest move is coming today I think it came last week in the Johan doson trade H how do you feel about your commanders Nate Dog I don't think I've talked to you guys since the trade um I because last last week when I was on that was when beitch was stirring stuff up saying bad attitude this and that and that's when I tweeted the text I wait wait what how was I saying something I didn't mention anybody's name so it's y'all F thinking something yeah I mean we must have just plucked that out of thin air that's on me I apologize I never said a name so I don't know what you're talking about well I did I said it's Johan doson and I sent a text to JP last October uh after I had a conversation with one of my inside sources that said that he had a bad attitude and then it all came out during camp this season I'm not meaning to you know trash somebody who's in Philly now but it makes sense if you're Trasher in Philly so it it makes sense that they got rid of him it seems like they asked the bare minimum of a first round pick wide receiver and he was not willing to comply with what the coaching staff wanted out of him shipped him uh you know up 95 to Philly you know maybe it's some addition by subtraction with him and it's also just another Ron Rivera screw up just another bad pick by Ron Vera uh a bad trade you know to move down to to you know get a a third round pick you know took a running back whatever Brian Robinson but yeah it's just it's just it stinks but again it's it's one of those hold overs from the last regime that they don't feel they need with this regime so I'm fine with it I'm perfectly content with it you know maybe he has this great career but it obviously was not going to work out in Washington one way or the other so onwards and upwards yeah I I mean I kind of meant big picture but specific to the Jan trade I think if you that trade does not make them better week one in Tampa and I think it's a good reminder to a lot of fans that have gotten so excited particularly by I think Jaden Daniels looking pretty damn good on three drives in August that like oh man I can't wait for this season like so much could happen there's you know everything that happened with the Texans last year and the background I I think this is a very healthy reminder that what Adam Peters has told you all along and what Josh Harris said Sunday night is that we are focused on building a long-term Elite competitor and not necessarily chasing the sugar high of what a rookie quarterback could do in one year and I I think that may a lot of people don't because I got a lot of people yelling at me about that on Friday on the show but like I I think it's a healthy reminder of to try to keep the big picture in mind here um and to your point I mean clearly you know you have to send a fifth along with doson just to get a third back and you have to do it in the division clearly this was a motivated decision by the organization to move a player it's how low it I mean this is gonna sound mean whatever I don't care it's how low they thought about him it it like to be a first round pick 24 year old wide receiver and to have the coaching staff run off as and everybody thinks so low of you that they ship you in division for pennies on the dollar like that should be a bigger wakeup call to him than to us like that that's such a statement of everything it's a statement of what his Market was around the leag if his mindset is that in which I'm G to prove you're wrong and he can live up to that and it can you can make it look like a mistake but they wouldn't let you go they wouldn't let you go if that was your mindset his mindset should be humbled and to work harder than he's ever worked in his life to prove everybody wrong like you know again like if he goes and has a great career great it was not going to be in Washington it was clearly not going to be in Washington from everything that we saw during you know the last couple months and everything we heard and everything that people said and all beit stirring everything up on Twitter it just was clear that he was not gonna work in DC so I think there is Nate you gonna stop that I think there is I'm GNA stir you up on Twitter that I believe not on Twitter real life um I know that it's easy to get caught up in what was the thing that stood out to me that you could call me S people got mad at me about was the Jets game when doson was in that game late in the first half catching passes from Jeff Driscoll and he kind of bobbled it coming in right yep and didn't seem thrilled about it and and frankly I watched throughout this offseason as he took punt return drills and didn't seem thrilled about that but I also know to a man talking without cameras guys in the locker room like like he wasn't disliked he wasn't like some I think some of the slander has gone too far I think far more important because there's a lot of jerks in locker rooms that are good and people just deal with it I think far more importantly what you saw his rookie year in Scott Turner's offense there was a lot of motion and Scott ran those Bunch formations which allowed Jan to get off the line of scrimmage without a lot of contact he he wasn't getting bumped he wasn't getting jammed wasn't facing a lot of press as EB came in with a different style you saw Jan get pressed and bumped at the line of scrimmage and he couldn't win and when that was happening further down his route tree he wasn't winning there either and he started rounding stuff off and just not being the same player I think that is far far more indicative of what his NFL Market was like if people are concerned about your ability to get off the line of scrimmage yes from and that was a real question for him coming out of school I think that is why we kind of saw what the NFL Marketplace was far more than what we saw over the last six months yeah and when he when he was drafted everybody you know not everybody but a lot of people said that he was overdrafted and that he shouldn't have gone there but Ron liked him I mean we I I could I could oh I almost said a word that I'm not allowed to say on radio I could hate on Ron from now you know until the day I die like I he put this team so far behind and they have to play so much catchup now and thankfully knock on wood hopefully you know having a elite rookie quarterback can help you know supercharge that rebuild but we have a lot of holes on this roster we have a lot of ground to make up and as you said at the beginning it's not going to be overnight it's going to be a process this is for the long-term build there's a lot of work to be done there's a lot of guys who will play meaningful minutes this year that would play meaningful minutes on a lot of other teams NFL and that's something that we're going to have to deal with and something we might see some ugly football at time and we might see some great football at times and you know it'll be a roller coaster of a season and something that we have to just accept right now and we can we can achieve as a team you like I do think with this schedule and the special players on this roster you know this team can go out and win eight nine 10 games like it is possible but it's not expected it's not I don't have expectations that high I just want to see guys who want to be here who want to compete who want to put you know that Jersey on every Sunday and go out and play for Washington you know we're going to see bad interceptions we're going to see drop passes we're gonna see Miss blocks on the offensive line it's all stuff we're gonna see and we have to be okay with it right now and I think that's the ultimate thing people have to remember that this thing like you said doesn't happen overnight and they may improve but the record may not uh tell you that but they may improve and I think the ultimate thing is five six years down the road you want to still be competing then instead of trying to do everything this year and then next year you're back down again yeah and and honestly just to hate on the coaching staff one more time I think it's great that Jack Del Rio is gone I think he really really hurt the defense and the Improvement and you didn't see them you know it's just it's stuff like that it I'm just glad they wased away the old like like a wave came in just washed away all the Old Coach have hopefully all the old habits that came with it it's just we just need to get that stink off this team and all the existing players from the last regime and just move on and I'll try to stop talking about Ron and Jack do Rio but man they really really hurt this team um Nate do I wanted to ask you something different all of our baseball coverage on 1067 the fan is presented by T-Mobile switch to T-Mobile you get tons of benefits and still save on every plan against AT&T and Verizon use the savings calculator to find out how at t-mobile.com switch um Dylan Cruz made his debut last night you had Dylan Cruz James Wood Juan stto Aaron judge was a kind of a juicy night I couldn't be there because I had first day of school today but I was watching I think it was one of the it looked packed at Nats Park did you watch like how much was that appointment viewing for you for for Dylan Cruz to get called up uh I was unable to watch last night obviously I was following Along on Twitter it it's exciting it's an exciting time to be a Nats fan we've talked about this a few times you know it's like I don't think SoDo will come home in the offseason I do think it's possible but having wood and Cruz you know both up at the major league level already they're both very young they're very exciting they both of them either of them could become you know one of those spaces of the league type guy uh what obviously has already lived up to you know expectations that we didn't even have for him he's just such a beast he's he's so awesome to watch play baseball and then we'll see what Dylan Cruz can do you know sometimes it takes guys a little longer sometimes they come up to the major league level and they can just hit right away away and be great right away we don't know what he's going to be what we do know is he's a two-time All-American you know golden spikes Award winner uh every tool in the shed this guy has it it's really I mean we're going to need some help with pitching and that takes forever to develop blah blah blah but the Outfield is Young and exciting and you know the Nets you know that that SoDo trade to the Padres is still just going to pay off uh there're still you know McKenzie Gore if he can get stuff back together know that's that's three great players that came over in that trade it's a great time to be a Nats fan but I think if you're thinking um Toto coming back you know don't hold your breath on that one bro there's this I I've noticed this with a lot of beat reporters and maybe da wrote about this like people keep we've had a bunch of reporters on with us that cover the Nets and it's like all right they're really starting to build now it's time for the owners to show they're ready to spend and generally when you have that it's because somebody on background deep background off record wherever it might be is suggesting hey man this offseason we're ready to rock or maybe are they ready to spend five 600 million or maybe somebody that works there wants to turn the pressure up to get ownership to spend again I can't imagine who that would be I can't imagine one single person that would want them to spend again because he's rebuilt it again um I just don't know that they're name Lio um I don't know that they will dude I just don't know I'll say this though we won a World Series off pitching I mean got lucky that stto at 20 years old was the best player of all time but I'm I've always been always will be a spend on pitching not hitting guy I you know let Bryce walk to Philly won a World Series the next year on the backs of strawberg and uh sherzer and Corbin who's you know still getting paid hundreds of millions off that but yeah I I if stto you know I we we can talk about it I'm almost saying it like almost like jokingly because I don't think you know ownership's going to pay for him to come back but if we want to look optimistically use that money and just pay for pitching if we're gonna make a big signing make it be a pitcher that's how you win a World Series in this league I mean if you think about for the Nets now there were a ton of factors right but most of their elite players were homegrown I bone 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Andi to extremely satisfied Orman customers and let's ride together e e e e e e e e e e e e e this sports update is brought to you by pvi office furniture fast excellent affordable business grows with pvi so it is cut down day in the NFL rosters have to get to 53 Men by 4 p.m. so some news is starting to trickle in the commanders have released Nick Whiteside II the commanders are trying to trade defensive tackle Jonathan Ridgeway they're also trying to get some trades going here for tight and Cole Turner earlier today the commanders have released a wide receiver and kick returner Davon Davis but the big news of the day for the commanders that would be they have a new naming rights partner so they're partnering with Northwest Federal Credit Union the new home of the commanders will now be called the Northwest stadium that is an 8-year long deal but that only applies to the stadium where it is right now if the commanders get a new stadium all bets are off and they can look for a new name 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Rivera's first year when they won the NFC East at 7even and N they started Jaylen Herz and he was kind of cooking him and they pulled him and put Suds in in the second half because perhaps Philly cared more about a draft pick than a seven- n division title kind of an interesting little subplot in all this uh Suds getting released in Detroit so we'll see where he ends up next um I thought a really smart line as people are going to spend entirely too much focus on today even though the head coach of this team Dan Quinn said we consider it a 70 man roster now and that 70 won't be settled until Thursday and the real week one roster is who takes the field next Wednesday yeah this is from Kyle Shanahan I thought this was pretty smart he said I always try to make a point of it one of the things I say a lot is they talk about this being the final 53 but never in the history of football has the final 53 been the final 53 that's just the final 53 at Tuesday at 1:00 that's West Coast time here on the East Coast four C that's the ultimate thing it's always changing you got 53 guys who you decide on then you've got 16 on the practice squad go back West Coast time is two o'clock and what time is it over here not four no T he said Tuesday at 1 oh you thought you said two no so it's one o'clock there it's four o'clock here I say that was not me making a math mistake there's plenty of them I think you'll agree with this from Kyle he said the point is sticking around in this league and finding a way to do it I always like to tell that to people that when they get in bonds you need to get people in the middle of the Year we'd always rather get a person we know rather than someone we don't that's why this is a big what I always say about it it's easy to get drafted it's hard to stay there hell yeah you know everybody just want to oh they get drafted and then they lose they they stop working or people make the team and then they stop working and you're not gonna be around that long if you do that um Nicki job Vala from The Washington Post has tweeted some of this out there's there's all sorts of information out there um they're starting to see some more Cuts standing says commanders have released AJ woods and Nick Whiteside again for folks driving around if you're in your car and you're on Route 50 in Arlington like don't get too worked up about all this because they got to release 37 dudes there's going to be a number of releases 37 and they can bring back 17 they can bring back 16 and then there's the international pathway program basically 17 right there's gonna end up with 70 dudes um what is very interesting though is Nikki has reported and and I understand why apparently Washington is making calls to see the level of interest for a trade for players like Cole Turner John Ridgeway Jeff sky and now Ricky Stromberg um the the Ridgeway one surprises me I guess they want to maybe roll with fidan matthysse instead of Ridgeway um Turner or maybe they can get more maybe never know the only person of that group that I think has much of a market could be Ridgeway um now Ridgeway remember was on the Dallas practice squad they were able to scoop him up sign him off waivers a couple years back um Cole Turner I argue that they need to keep four tight ends because I I I believe from everything I've seen Zack her's gonna have a major role in this offense and I think because he's had injury trouble and his goal is to stay healthy and the amount of football he's played I don't think you can count on SS for special teams and I think tight end is a position where you need to count on players playing that position four special teams so I think you got to go four deep there um but I'm talking four Deep by week one next week that doesn't mean Cole Turner I think frankly Sunday night was an opportunity for him to show you got to keep keep me on this roster and I don't think it went that way well the thing about it like you got Senate you have Bates you have SS yep don't yankov play both tight end and like a fullback type position yeah but he's not ready for a roster spot I mean you never know I mean is Cole ready for a roster spot I think Turner's closer I I don't think the only thing we I heard about Turner every year is like oh he if he's healthy or if he could get on the rout he'd be good if he had been getting on it may not be ready for it I think today we're gonna get to the Finish Line with Bates her Senate I think by next week that could look different um Brian one thing that I find fascinating I think to me Robinson and eer have separated themselves at the running back spot by by a wide margin right I don't know that anybody has separated themselves to be the third running back if there was somebody to me it's Mike Wy and it's fairly healthy distance I wouldn't be averse if they only keep B Robin Eckler on this final roster and then see what shakes out over the next 48 hours and I you know ideally you get Wy back if you can't there probably a lot of backs out there they like and it gives you another roster spot to get through to your F your first official 53 with if there's somebody you want to keep try to stash put on IR whatever it is thing think about it right now the two guys that they really have to keep that they want to keep are the two guys we know gonna make it Brian and also uh Austin Austin but then the guys behind them you know it may be somebody on another team that they feel is cool but I think weally has done a good job for himself based off the guys that are here I totally agree I just I don't know lanfield what do you think the tradem market is for Ricky Stromberg nope but think about it I think I think you we all look at stuff like there's somebody out there that look at Ricky strongberg and feel like I rather just get him now give up a nothing or whatever we want to do for him instead of going out there and trying to battle in with somebody to try to get him in the free AG it's just like what happened with Kade York it's Kade York the kicker was gonna get released just it's like a business type thing I mean it's not necessarily how we think somebody look it's some other is somebody out there looking at him saying oh dog we got to get him in our roster is zero problem with making some calls yeah um I don't know that it's going to result I think they have to you have to do everything you can because when if it comes to it and you never tried anything and somebody else get him and he ends up being good what are you gonna say there is no I I I wouldn't have high expectations for that but certainly calling around I almost wonder if Ridgeway should have a market like Ridgeway has shown I I'd argue some real real ability yeah um I yes I I listen this this team is smart as hell in the fact that we're GNA reach out to people and see if somebody want to move on this or if you release them you get nothing for them right shouldn't you try to get something every time whether you get it or not you're at least trying you're talking about the guys they're at least trying with Cole Turner say what you will has played in NFL games and has shown a real ability as a pass catcher right so you might as well kick some tires anybody out there anybody out there need a tight um Ridgeway has made real plays in the NFL um has has shown some ability to play frankly I'm kind of surprised by the Ridgeway thing but to your point B maybe it's well who would you want to keep Ridgeway or matthysse well Ridgeway has proven it to me I've seen him it and but the thing about it is they're there every day and do they see a upside in Mattis because I don't think he was drafted that high we could say Ron picked him whatever were other people out there wanting him too and if he's healthy could he be better than Rich because richway is at a point now where you seen what you're gonna get I I agree with that um sometimes you gotta roll the dice brother are you gonna go Snake Eyes or You Gonna Roll 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easier just Google John Ley group and start packing e e e e e e e e e e breaking news on the fan peras Source commanders have released Martavis Bryant big wide receiver that there was some excitement might be able to really make this comeback now he was on Dallas's practice squad last year I've been told you certainly could expect him to be back on the practice squad um Bryant caught the touchdown the other night also drew that big pass interference I don't think we should be shocked by this this is a guy they signed a week prior I do think Bryant offered them something different in the receiver room than the other players they have be your reaction also could he be a guy that they feel that can clear wav because you look at the fact just like think the things we discussed when he was signed here old the guy hadn't played since 2009 uh 1819 uh had issues you feel that that's somebody other teams he was sitting on Dallas prti nobody else had picked him nobody picked him yo he was a free agent till the middle of August and then on top of that he knows Dan Quinn could they have an understanding you know listen when I say these things people might think I'm crazy but people disappear and don't talk to anybody else until they get ready to talk to the person they want to talk to it could be you know you never know certainly I I think they if they want him what you the fact that they sign HIM lead you believe on some level they want him around they're they clearly anybody they cut they're not too worried about losing that's the reality it it it's like whenever you want to restructure a player's contract when you are a organization is basically going to a player and saying yo we're GNA pay you less money you have to be prepared to cut that player because they might tell you to they might give you the one finger salute yeah yeah yeah if you're cutting if you're cutting a player you're prepared to lose him that's the reality yeah but I think they'd like to get him back from what I hear um I also can't help but notice this Houston Texans they they all of a sudden have a really deep wide receiver room Noah Brown last year in Houston had 33 catches for 567 yards and two touchdowns okay um the yardage would have made him the yardage last year from Noah Brown in Houston would have been the second highest yardage in Washington for anybody not named Terry MCCC over the past two seasons Noah Brown has gone for combin um 75 catches over 1100 yards and five touchdowns those numbers for any receiver not named Terry McClaren would be the best in Washington um I think I I think there's got to be some real consideration for a guy that is 62 230 so it's a little more sof than you had um Noah Brown is 28 uh played his college ball at Ohio State was in Dallas with Dan Quinn there's gonna be a lot of familiarity um between Quinn and Joe wit and and a lot of these folks with Dallas ties and Noah Brown if he's I don't know I'll be curious if he gives you anything in the kick return game um I don't see any of that I don't know maybe at 6'2 he's perhaps too big I wouldn't think so um that's a guy I would kind of keep your eye on um he has produced recently at a at a higher level than what you've had and the staff knows them guys that are familiar with them yeah makes a difference um this is going to continue to roll out all day but obviously the the big news if you missed it Martavis Bryant released from Washington Jeff quickly your uh your reaction action to Martavis Bryant cut okay I I didn't think he was gonna make the team like you said it was something different a different look for the team but it's it's not weighing on me still not bigger than um Northwest Stadium really I think this one is the first one that's bigger I oh know nah I mean if you have talk yourself into just because his size and all dude hadn't played in six seven years man how is that bigger than the stadium because it's just naming rights and naming rights don't have anything to do withn he he and that's it's like just talking about a guy that had played in six years so do you think if when like something happens with Ridgeway that's bigger than Stadium rights that's a dude that played for you he played for you but rway is not the one that makes a break the defense earlier you said anything that the football is is more important at this point now you would hope but in this town we can't make every damn move that's made by the team into an issue when then the players had I'm not saying issue I think it's more relevant to the football operation if it was a guy that was somebody that we know about to really make team had been performing then I understand but I'm just looking at this stuff right now he I know it was a lot of Hope of what could be of possibilities but when you all when you come to it the to it he hadn't played in six years lfi Martavis Bryant cut bigger or smaller than Northwest Federal Credit Northwest Stadium I would say Northwest stadium is bigger deal okay there you have it um we're gonna run out of time because there's gonna be more news throughout this Brian Jeff Walker claims If he if he was a running back in the middle of the field okay and he got we'll even give him a toss so you're you're at full speed right away Jeff he claims he can get out of bounds before Bobby Wagner could tackle it now first let's clear the entire situation because one I would never say if I was a running back JP just said if you were in the middle of the field and Bobby Wagner was trying to tackle you would you get out of bounds yes I would because fear dude you ever been scared or something I love that you the the thing you want to quarrel with is that I called you a running back in this scenario whatever you want to be it wasn't no scenario the scenario was if we in the middle of the field and Bobby Wagner is coming to take my head off when I make it I said I will run out of B yes I will make it to the side I'm I'm not trying to get you know demolished look I was out go running back towards I don't care where I'm run a touch back he not hitting me he's catching you nahan fight or flight fear adrenaline dude I ran from dogs when I was in uh uh least shape when I was younger you think I'm not going to get from a man that's flying trying to take my head off I will make it that JP it may be one time gon be he gonna be scared straight yep and I don't care all right you're in the middle of the field right a football field is 160 feet wide is that about right it's about 48 40 50 right at like 50 yards wide so you have to get 25 yards Bobby Wagner now granted this was his 40 time many years ago when he was drafted ran a 446 and Jeff ran a 64 that day right I think he'll catch it Jeff this a different Jeff this is Jeff trying to avoid injury here man this is not Jeff too funny this is Jeff very scared yes lville you think Wagner's catching him inbounds yeah of course I mean 1,000% so so far in bounds I think you have a I I don't think you have any chance of ever making contact off JoJo gray I think you have a better chance at that than you do with Wags let's make it even better I bet you a thousand do he will not hit me this is I mean the most hypothetical bet of all time which is why you're willing to make it because this is never going to happen yeah no but even if it did happen I guarantee you I would slide before before he even Mak cont but you didn't make it out of bounds it's cut you would have lost a bit and in the NFL you can't slide because you're not a quarterback it's cut Day news will break throughout the show we're just getting warmed up e e e e e e e e e e e this bir of date is brought to you by orsman Alexandria Kia let's ride together so the commanders are making some news today on cutdown day in the NFL where they have to get their roster down to 53 by 4 p.m. so they still have 4 hours to make their corresponding moves but the biggest one so far is the commanders have released veteran wide receiver Martavius Bryan so he will not make the roster the commanders have also released Nick Whiteside II now the big other piece of news from the Commander's cutdown day is that they are trying to trade and are open to trading Jonathan Ridgeway and tight end Cole Turner so it's yet to be seen if deals will be made there but a deal has definitely been made and that's between the commanders and Northwest Federal Credit Union for the name of the new stadium the commanders will now play all home games at Northwest Stadium the deal runs through the 2031 season and while the financial terms were not announced one source told ESPN that the average exceeds the approximately $7.5 million per year that FedEx was paying for this deal so the commanders are now making money and they'll now be playing at Northwest Stadium orsman Alexandria Kia keeps their customers happy by offering great deals on the area's Best Selection of new Kia each backed by the orsman lifetime Edge featuring up to $1,500 in extras as they say at Orman Alexandria Kia like let's ride together from the crop medc F Star Sports desk Savannah Mancan on the fan B Mitch Finley 1067 the fan High Noon in the District of Columbia you never know man you never know um we're watching uh I mean the NFL league wide there's a lot going on I find this one kind of funny uh Bobby McCain just got released by the Vikings Bobby McCain was here a couple of years ago a really smart guy a leader um but his tenure in Washington wasn't all that good and it's just funny when when some fans have heard of a player they're just like get him back so they released him after the 22 season or maybe they just let his contract expire whatever you want to call it MH and now they are fans saying bring him back which I find kind of interesting I'm so happy that Adam Peters knows what he's doing he not listening to those fans sure um now we will continue to give you kind of the breaking news as it's happening here maybe we'll open these phone lines up here in a little bit but there was something that I thought was really relevant and will be important to folks um in our audience frankly um it was Grant I think Josh har spoke before the preseason finale um Sunday at FedEx field and he got asked about the team name and I I thought his answer was as kind of honest as it could be and as real as it could be considering what are a lot of of different factors uh commanders managing partner Josh Harris it does matter I just think that um and certainly um like we've been very clear we can't for obvious reasons the old name can't come back but um right now we're focused on things that unify the team around uh our football team right and unify the city around our football team and so you the first objective is we guys start winning football games um and we need everyone's supporting the team and not things that might you know drive people apart um secondly um obviously you know we're trying to find a new home and again uh unifying the city uh around that uh is important and so and you know the name is one of those things that a lot of opinions but I mean I can't say i' I've certainly not forgotten I mean like I said I grew up here okay so I understand it and you know we brought back we're going to start to do things that bring us back to our heritage uh honoring our past you know the go you saw the gold uh pants um those are easy things to do so uh we are doing research um and we're thinking about it but like right now we're we're prioritizing the things that we've talked about and and and that's kind of the rationale for it great I think the most important part there is for all of the incorrect go back to the old name yes yeah he he he I think he had already nipped that in the butt earlier I think I don't know that he had officially on the record but now it's officially on the record right like a team spokesperson had said it all those things they like yeah but we hadn't heard it from Harris but the I would think if the team spokesperson said it the owner knows it I agree but the lunatics the fringes wouldn't listen now I I like to think Jeff give us a uh they won't stop him Jeff give us an update from the fringes now that Harris has definitively said the name ain't going back what are the what are the fringes saying why not they will forever be Redskins to me that's fine they can say whatever they want but there's no more people that still think it's going back correct I think there's some people that still think it's possible yeah I was about to say is we we we are trying to rationalize stupidity here and you can't do that you might be right um ideally everybody now understands it ain't going back we've been saying that for some time Jason right said it team's officials have said it um now that Harris has said it done now going out from that I think he was really smart and honest he's like listen we're trying to get a new stadium deal done we're trying to get people to Rally around this team the last thing we need to do is have another fan name battle Yeah separating the team he also allowed though that he understands that maybe the name hasn't taken off like they hoped and that it's something that they will consider right like there's yeah there are a number of considerations to be made but I think I was there for Josh Harris's press conference the other night he wants to win I I loved his answer on yo we're here to build something for the long term and be better he did slip one in our record last year was God awful we got to at least be better than that I thought that was just kind of funny and honest um I imagine now the getting the stadium rights naming deal done one that had to happen because you got games coming up two that's money in their pocket and I imagine relatively low hanging fruit but let's be real the season is about to start right and if someone has been negotiating with you you want to make sure that they there for the first game right totally you know but outside of that I don't think we get any real news on Stadium practice facility ations maybe name conversation I dude they're bringing the yellow pants back be I I keep going back to watching Jaden Daniels in the meal lands come out in the Doug Williams throwback jersey and then looking at the jerseys now I will not be stunned what teams change teams tame gez teams change their jerseys all the time yeah the Broncos I I feel like for a long time had Fairly iconic look now they've got a new look teams change their uniforms all the time I would not be stunned at all if the white goes back to what it used to look like and that's a that's a change you could do in one off season and it sells more merchandise I I'll I'll go here I got here in 1990 we vom very seldomly wore the gold pants we wore the gold pants at the throwback game right but all other than that we were wearing white pants or the burgundy pants and we won it we won Super Bowl then did when he said go back to the P they going back Beyond when I first got here Bruce tried to bring it back you know yeah but been in the years when Joe was still around it wasn't wearing no no gold pants a lot I I think it goes back to the 70s but even more so I think dude you know how easy it would be for the white jerseys to go back to what they looked like there is you know what the uniforms you were you wore the uniforms Jojo Kobe War there was no Redskins logo there was nothing on it it was simple it was Stripes it was iconic I I think you can make changes like that where you don't need a ton of NFL approval like it that Jeff just found that out what's that Jeffrey the jerseys and you didn't have he not listening didn't have the the uh Name Across the front like they do now right and and later versions even the football team I think it just said Washington like you can make that move barly then only thing you had standing there was the NFL shield that was it I think um you could I think they are going to make a very significant effort to start honoring the past right yeah and I think you're going to see that and I think looking at those uniforms the other night and you know I I like the blacks but damn if it doesn't look like you're watching a different football team I had one of my buddies called me and said straight up and he's a Steeler fan he say man I don't like those uniforms made me think I'm watching my own team you know what I mean right totally and I think the blacks I like the look of it but it just it completely doesn't look like Washington the burgundy uniforms they have now are their best ones um the white just it's not burgundy and man it's like Arizona Cardinals Louisville Cardinals whatever you're into it it looks more Louisville to me sure I think that is an easy switch that I can't imagine cost you a lot you go back to Nike you're like yo we want this again and then I think people would buy it like crazy but still Jay I still go back to the same thing I've been saying the whole time if this team was winning we wouldn't be discussing that agreed you know and I think that's the ultimate thing and I think Josh H hit the nail in the head you say we got to become got to have winning football have winning football a lot of things are SOL you know all the things the the outling the out outling type stuff that makes people that becomes important when the main thing isn't very good dude I think Cleveland the Guardians baseball and football are different like I understand a lot of things but the Guardians are really really good right now and I imagine people in Cleveland are pretty fired up about it they are and it if if Jaden Daniels hits and this team within two three years is playing really meaningful January football I think that could change how people feel about commanders yeah it could but I I just think that I think that it's a huge topic because the team has not been good in a long time totally if it was if the team had been good this would not be a huge topic um you have those people who are going to complain no matter what the hell goes on you know but it wouldn't be as big a topic as it is Lille what do you make of Harris openly talking about just and he and he kind of gave himself some qualifiers but perhaps some Discord around the current team name um I think that that if you're the people that want a Rebrand I think you should probably take that as a positive it's like that they're uh they're aware that it's maybe not universally accepted by the fan base and they're kind of they're not just doing the previous ownership thing where they um pretend it's great despite all of the evidence yeah agreed um I think I think this may dovetail and we're I want to talk about the Shawn Taylor stuff um they removed that made me feel real good just just throw that out there me too man I I made a point of walking over there just to see it gone and that whole I guess that's the North End Zone right uh the Northend right by the Legends Plaza yeah um that whole area looks better different the bars are on the one side like it looks way better um and that installation as I remember a former Team official about an hour before the unveiling of that thing reminded me they're like JP just just so it's clear we never said this was a statue and that was my first like little warning flag of like oh man what the hell is this thing going to look like and I've heard it it was called the installation yeah um I've heard a lot of things about who was in charge of the design and that stuff and at some point we're just heaping dirt on a dead body but I I think um that the fact that they continuously had to have Shawn Taylor ceremonies is because they continuously messed them up yeah they did the installation because the year before the Jersey retirement was kind of a mess and and I I I I about the the picture in front of the Porta yeah the porta potties remember you had uh they were playing the Chiefs what's his name is brother was dancing on the 21 on the sideline and then when they brought him out at halftime they just like held up a sign that was a place where they told people to stand in bro all of it was a disaster that was a problem so you're happy that whatever they need or want to do for Shawn I get the feeling be if they're going to build real statues which I think there are people in this organization that you could build real statues for I'm not sure I'd be building them until I'm at the new stadium because a real Statue but 15,000 pounds in the ground you don't have to even do 15,000 pound you saw the Denver Broncos what they did what they did and they're little they're where they basically show honor to all their former players and things of that nature dude it is so dope you can do that and those things can be moved I don't know that you can what Denver has that whole like Plaza and everything you got the plaza and you got those plaques that are sitting on you can move those headstones they look like headstones you can move those to another place if you had to um regardless I I think eventually when you build statues because I I want this I don't want to I'm not at all putting words in your mouth and if you disagree you tell me but I know a lot of people that played for the organization love respect appreciate everything that Shawn Taylor gave to Washington and then ultimately to lose his life at such a young age is so terrible yeah but he played Four Seasons for the organization and and there are folks that are like man they're going to all of this for him but what about guys that played for 15 years that won multiple Super Bowls that did all these other things and I don't think it needs to be a binary choice I think you can honor a bunch of people in a much better way I think you can and I think I think that though is a a very very unique C circumstance of what's going on with that agreed and I think when you look at a lot of young fans that is what brought them to Washton but I I know that there are people that understand looking like Rigo and and Daryl and those type of guys Sunny Bobby Sunny you know but the ultimate thing is that is what Dan was pushed by but ultimately there are people young and old who really admired what sea did and i% you but you don't have to diminish one to C it doesn't have to just be oh that's the only one it's a lot more people out there here's an example and if you see what they're doing already they already doing stuff like that the the Dan era really only wanted to celebrate what happened under Dan to the point where when you take the elevator or the stairs down from the Press Box and this is where a lot of really high level sweet people are coming out of the ownership level also you walk through this little tunnel to get down towards the locker room you know the area I'm talking about yeah and for years and years and years and years and years and years there was a giant photograph for a whole wall imagine like a 9 foot long photograph of RG3's long run against the Minnesota Vikings which was very cool play but in the grand scheme of things amounted to very little yeah the other night when we were there I couldn't help but notice they had the whole thing turned into a mural with true Legends and Super Bowl trophies and they had art Monk and Rigo and sunny and Joe Gibbs like honoring the past of the great organization not just the petulant past of when I owned it uh we're just getting warmed up more cuts are coming in a player that made this team last year is gone I'll tell you who it is next hey it's Brian Mitchell here you've heard us talk a lot about FanDuel America's number one sports book well we have something a little different for you now through September 22nd all FanDuel customers can get $5 and get a 3-week free trial of NFL Sunday Ticket from YouTube and YouTube TV then with a YouTube TV base plan you'll be able to watch every regular season Sunday afternoon out of Market game all you need is a Google account and a current form of payment and you can cancel anytime just visit fanduel.com Brian to download America's number one Sportsbook FanDuel Sportsbook is official partner 1067 to Fan have to be 21 years old and president Virginia full price of NFL Sunday Ticket will be automatically charged seasonally after free trial no refunds terms restrictions and embargos apply gambling problem call 1800 gambler e e e e e e e e e I'm R fory we're sponsored by Flor and Decor unbeatable prices un matched in stock selection some stadium news today concerning the commanders who have a new naming rights deal for the home field in Landover it's an eight-year agreement with Northwest Federal Credit Union for what will now be known as Northwest Stadium John Kim ESPN saying it exceeds the 7 and A5 million per year that was being paid previously by FedEx new naming rights deal now runs through 2031 for Northwest Stadium cut down day in the NFL rosters down to 53 by 4 p.m. moves made by the commanders the big one wide receiver Martavis Bryant among those already released today baseball Nationals with another one against the Bronx bombers tonight Pinstripes in town New York Yankees another one with Garrett Cole facing Patrick Corbin for the Nats tonight Nats and yank 635 first pitch here on the fan Floren decor is more styles of laminate vinyl tile wood and stone for anyone looking for the right look at the right price your next beautiful space is at Floor and Decor from the CR medcap Five Star Sports St scoll fory on the fan and the lights are blinking I'm thinking it's all over when I go out drinking oh why I don't with the big but oh uh B Finly 30 in the district um shout out to all the folks on the stream I've been pretty busy haven't been able to holler at you hope you're doing well Jeff left so I hope everything's going well peeps um Hogs Haven does a great job of keeping track of everything shout out to Rich tanler because he used to do this and I loved um this piece he would put together where he just tracked all the cuts um but Hogs Haven tracking everything so far reportedly six cuts um the first one was Davon Davis commanders are trying to apparently trade Stromberg Turner Ridgeway I don't know how successful any of those efforts will be uh standing says they cut AJ woods and Nick Whiteside K says they released Martavis Bryant I I was told the same thing Mitch Tinsley's on his way out um another Center on the roster Cameron Tom um lville how are you going to sleep tonight knowing that Cameron Tom has been released lf's on the phone doing something um it it's going to be fascinating watching this as we get to this wide receiver B um Terry diami Oz Luke firmly on the roster Byron Pringles a guy they brought back that might be able to return kicks Jameson Crowder they didn't even dress the other night which generally it means mean you're good and and he's your punt returner unless they think Oz could do it if if Tinsley Bryant and Davis are gone it gets interesting Bryson train is a big bodied fella that has been good for you was on your practice squad last year but I I I've been wanting to talk to you about one player specifically because I remember how excited you were last year about him and then I think that excitement waned as we got to watch him um but then these guys seem to be excited about him again what do you make of Cass Allen uh Cass to me is a person who has to capitalize on opportunities and just be more consistent because that is a position where if you're inconsistent catching the football you have a problem and I everyone I've talked with that I I know around that I believe in what they say you're like he knows what to do once he catch the ball but he got to catch the ball is that very vitally important in being a pun returner and a running back or kick returner I totally agree um I I I don't understand the Cass Allen excitement perhaps because I've watched him so much I just I have real questions about his hands and now they they kind of consider Calen a running back I wonder if that's an attempt at kind of a a initial 53 roster cheat code because maybe there's no clear running back you have to keep so if you keep Cass at running back third running back I'm saying I don't know if you keep miss the third running back you go McLaren Brown Oz Luke Pringle Crowder and then you go Robinson Eckler Cass I I think Wy has distance himself at a pretty healthy rate there um but Cass has been working with the running backs now does that to you mean that he's a running back no mean he trying to get some I'm trying to see him what just like they did with Jamon they want to see that you can work in another position as well because this is not the first time I've seen Cass working with running backs I saw him earlier in OTAs he and both Luke mcaffrey working with Lynn after the practices and things like that I've seen stuff where you could see that they were working on different handoffs and all so I expected them to do it and I think he finally got to that point to see how we going to make this thing move because I think they are very intrigued with his possibilities when the ball is in his hand he's an intriguing piece for sure but I've seen a lot of guys in this league with unbelievable ability that could not consistently catch the ball on punts and things like that and they let it go a lot of time that did not stay in the league so he's gonna have to make that big jump because look you could take a chance but it's not that that's not gonna be every time you gotta make you got to make that step to show that you can trust in me you can count on me especially at that position I I tend to agree there um you know I the fact that Tinsley last year was this exciting undrafted rookie receiver story that that folks really got excited about um and this year kind of was never really an option like Tinsley I don't want to say seemed forgotten but but was not like Bryson Tain made more plays at C you know what I mean like Tinsley never really seemed to force his way back and when you have a change in leadership and coaches like ideally you force your way back let's go around the room Landini I'll start with you if you're receiving group on your initial 53 McLaren dami Oz Luke mcaffrey Pringle crou that's six how we feeling about that group uh not great Jeffrey uh the the way I would have to see this JP is if the coaches are fine with it I'm fine with it because we don't know what's in the bigger plan or the bigger grand scheme of thing so if they're fine with you know rolling out with this receiver group I am too until the results you know rendered different Jeffrey channeling his inner Brian Mitchell right there but the ultim thing I feel like he's lying but he's trying but I mean no I'm serious but but how do you really feel about it only person different what you just name you got Luke on it now you don't have a Jan I so we're clear I wasn't wild about the group with Jan okay but my whole thing my whole thing is I know we always talk about we not wild about a group the group should not end up being what it is right now it should be better if they if if any of these if the eony keeps growing if this kid uh zakas if he keeps growing and keeps doing things if Luke happens to do something Terry continues being who he is this this this group could be good but right now we look at the names of the people all the time everybody that started this thing once a puppy I also think quarterback play can change everything I I've I've made the ni Collins reference plenty but that's a guy that was a 30 catch a year 400 yards a year like you had two years of examples of that then CJ strad shows up and it kind of changes everything I know I have seen it dami brown has proven to be a really good player in August i' I've seen it at training camp for four years now um can he keep it going in the season the the new staff has showed up and all they can do is look at what's out there yeah and I I don't know that two things to me can be true this receiving group looks humble on paper maybe Luke maybe Luke is able to really develop over the course of the year I I think that's entirely possible right I really like Luke's kind of intangibles his length his size he's learning to play receiver in the NFL might take a little time but he could end up being pretty good I I think this receiving group doesn't crack like a top 20 in the NFL but that doesn't necessarily mean that the offense is doomed I think people get so caught up in like weapons for young quarterbacks I think Z Senate Eckler brob are going to be huge weapons for Jaden Daniels and I think this group could outperform expectations with a higher performing offense yeah like I think the offensive line can impact all these things and frankly I don't know if this group now let's we don't even know what it's the final roster is going to be because what if they add Noah Brown how much does that change our calculus right let's say whatever grade you want to give McLaren Brown Oz Luke Pringle Crowder say that's a c group say it's a b group right whatever whatever grade you want to assign that I don't know that that grade was significantly different with Jan doson on the group but my question is Houston you talk a lot about Houston what was their grade before before the season started last year exactly and and see see I I I went through this before where people question me my rookie season based off of oh he's a rookie he hadn't done this before by the end of the year they wern't asking Those Questions by the end of my career they didn't ask those questions so we look at a person right now who hadn't had the opportunity or some of these guys hadn't been on the field the problem is brown and Oz have had opportunities and just and they play has been okay and brown has never shown it but they may be get but they they may get bigger they may get bigger opportunities now and get more involved with it where they can do it I mean so right now yes it looks like that based off of Just judging them based off of the names and and what they've done thus far people sometimes kick down the curtain kick down the door too and and make them happen that's certainly what the hope is when we return breaking news from Washington at the quarterback position hey it's Brian Mitchell here with the record Heat this summer I know your air conditioner took a beating and your current brand is not cutting through the dis humid humidity at all so now is the time to switch the rude take advantage of rud's $2,000 tax credits Marland residents can even score exclusive rebates from rude I personally switched my house over to rude and the difference is day and night trust me visit rude.com to find your savings that's ruud.com to see why there the MVP of cooling and remember if it ain't rude it ain't right e e e e e e e e e e with breaking sports news on the fan I'm R forc breaking sports news presented by betql smarter bets start with betql get three free days of betql access by downloading the betql app or by visiting betql dcom today latest release by the commanders Tom piser NFL Network just a moment ago reporting that commanders have released rookie QB Sam Hartman the former Notre Dame quarterback signed as an undrafted free agent back in the spring Hartman was banged up in the preseason opener did not play the final two preseason games good chance though according to pisero that he'll be brought back to the practice squad once cut down day is done and all the dust settles in the next couple of days 4 pm is the roster deadline we'll keep you updated on any late breaking news the latest though is rookie Sam Hartman released by The commanders with breaking sports news presented by bql I'm Ro fory on the fan alrighty um undrafted player gets cut World goes crazy when he's a quarterback with great hair we can't he was at Wake Forest and I like Sam he's a nice young man I think there's reasons to be excited but I said it the first practice I watch I don't know that he has the arm for the pros and um there is somebody on the Commander's beat that I we would always disagree on this I just I never thought he had the arm for it and I think there were times you could see that um this to me isn't a surprise I think they've always wanted to get him back to practice squad I I've thought since before the draft when they signed not only Mariota but then Driscoll that the plan was Jaden Mariota Driscoll I think it's pretty clear well Drisco showed he showed a lot in the previous uh preseason game and this one too the dude can he can move he has a good arm seems to understand the concept of what they're doing very much so and I think he if you're just looking at the talent I think his talent is bigger than har I mean all the women out there can say what they want by his hair but hair don't win football game like there are exceptions but on some level you kind of got to trust the league and and like the collective mind power of 32 teams and Driscoll was drafted and has started a handful of games ac across a multi you know six sevene career Harman wasn't drafted and then dude on top of that you had an injury you had a shoulder injury yeah shoulder injury and then they brought oh man what's name m Murley Stonebridge and I think you look at what he was doing a little bit he may have stepped above Hartman well I don't if he has or hasn't I don't think he's making the roster either I don't worry about him making him just saying he's showing he was better maybe I mean Hartman played a little less than two quarters and got hurt he two got hurt Hartman had the really good drive against the Jets and and you just say his arm is not he doesn't have a a hot arm and in H arm is not going to be good yeah I I don't think if anybody thinks this is a surprise I kind of think you're nuts um or you were talking yourself into some sort of reality that that perhaps doesn't exist yeah I think that's fair um more roster moves are coming in they're listen they they've got to make a bunch so it's going to keep happening at one o'clock Nicki jobal will join us to bring us all of the latest I I part of me wonders if Nikki's not going to be able to come on with us because of all the news that she's I'm gonna I'm going to pull back the curtain on Cut day there are folks that will grind out trying to break the news of every cut player and Nikki is certainly one of those I just to me it's a Fool's errand like they're gonna release everything I don't feel like texting a 100 agents all afternoon um so we'll see if Nikki I'm curious about that at 1:30 lfi we're giving away Leonard Skinner tickets that will be dope um is that JY Lube where's skard playing I'm guessing it's JY Lube Live I don't know but I I think it'll be fun um here's the other thing a lot of these a lot of these players that get released you're going to hear that they're a strong candidate for the practice squad and that's true for a lot of these guys but like you're also gonna kind of say that to most players like hey man we gotta let you go now but if it works we're we're going to see what we can do about bringing you back right yeah like it's kind of the it's not you it's me of dating like yeah they might bring you back but if they find somebody they like better they might bring you back but what if somebody call you and you go and know hey it didn't work right you we have interest but you know other people have interest too I just I I think today sucks and I think now that the rosters stay big and Bloated for so much longer today is even like less newsworthy because there's really I mean the the players that were I think the biggest decisions they had to make Turner Ridgeway matthysse um what they're going to do at running back kind of what they're going to do at the bottom of the o line depth chart by these reports of them considering trading like I kind of think we're getting told you know what I mean like how this is going to shake yeah I mean it's it's it's it's a rough day but it is a part of the profession that they chose but let's be real the fact that they can bring 17 players back to practice squad and of that 17 let's say the rookies can make up to $27,000 and the guys that have some experience under their belt they can make up to three $400,000 I would say that for four months it's a nice that's a nice ass salary rather than being going home so it it it it it's not what it used to be like when when back in the day you were cut you were cut right and they had didn't they all of a sudden they had four or five people on practice squad it wasn't 17 so a lot more people still can generate some level of income and I think if you talk to the average person out there you're making $212,000 they're saying dude you're winning right and you're getting that for what four months um when I say that I I don't know that Hartman has a pro arm um I haven't been proven right by two guys that have been released today one was Peterman who I watched in Mobile and he was bad the other B I was early on Desmond Ritter being bad you were Arizona waved him within the last hour I guess um that that's a dude that goes from Atlanta trying to bank on him being the franchise quarterback to now being released as the backup for the Arizona Cardinals um here is the plan okay cut day in the NFL we got news from all over the league we're going to try to go around the league plus CD lamb got paid yes he did montz sweat had some comments about his time in DC I think we can kind of look at that in a vacuum I'm curious if you agree with me be I went to a Washington spirit game there is a lot going on Nikki jabala to join us next nobody go anywhere e e e e e e e e e e e e this sports update is driven by Orman chant Tilly Kia let's ride together so the latest on cutdown day for the commanders so far according to Tom peliso we gave you the news a short time ago commanders have released rookie QB Sam Hartman former Notre Dame quarterback signed as an undrafted free agent this spring also today according to John Kim Tariq Castro Fields has been released now Mitchell Tinsley another receiver released today today by the commanders and Veteran Martavis Bryan had a touchdown catch in the preseason finale he was also among the cuts today reportedly by the commanders rosters have to be down to 53 players by 4M some of those players Sam Hartman Martavis Bryant they could be back to the practice squad at some point team is also reportedly exploring possible trades of a couple of other players defensive tackle John Ridgeway and tight end Cole Turner veteran receiver Allan Robinson released by the New York Giants today bayy zappy QB released by the Patriots programming Note new Commander running back Austin Eckler will be a guest of Grant and Danny today here at 3M stadium news commanders have a new naming rights deal for the field and Landover Northwest Federal Credit Union signs an eight-year deal it'll be known as Northwest Stadium beginning this season orsman Chantell Kia keeps her customers happy by offering great deals on the area's Best Selection of newas each back by the Orman lifetime Edge featuring up to $1,500 in extras as they say at orsman chanti Kia let's ride together from the crop medcap Five Star Sports stat scoll for on the fan us us us all right we always appreciate having Nicki J B join the program while she gets her own song but especially on Cut day when I know she's grinding and texting a million agents across the country hello Nikki how do you do I'm good how are you guys uh we are good um the last waiver that we've heard about releasing KJ Henry um DN draft pick just last year looked pretty good the other night in the preseason finale had that big sack on jacobe brassette I I I'm guessing you have this one I if I if you haven't forgive me um but obviously we're seeing a a whole lot of removal of players that have been here um what do you make a cut day so far yeah so I I haven't confirmed KJ Henry yet I did see that one it is that one's that one's a bit of a surprise to me um agreed he's been their first defensive end out there behind um cleand frell and and Dorne Armstrong so that one's a little bit of a surprise um but yeah so far outside of you know the earlier Jan doson trade there haven't been too many surprises really um and I don't don't expect the movement to change at 400 p.m. today um that's the deadline for the initial 53 to be done I would expect there to be quite a bit of movement thereafter maybe up until the opener even yeah I I think that's fair I mean what I've been saying all along is whoever makes today's initial 53 it's going to be dramatically different than what the roster looks like Friday morning and then even by week one of week like by Wednesday of next week when they really truly begin getting ready for Tampa I think Nikki you could see as many as six seven eight different players than making this initial 53 that' be back from teams you're saying yeah yeah I see that yeah I mean and that's that's the beauty of having the number two spot in a claiming order I think if if they didn't have that there probably wouldn't be as much movement um but now they really good odds on trying to get the guys they want in pool of of guys that have been waved so yeah I mean it's it's unfortunate they're in that spot because of how they got there because it's a you know it's the same orders the reverse order of how they finished last season but yeah um it's super beneficial when you're trying to rebuild I think is a we I think when we look at some of these players that have been released we like we start liking people I think the people that putting this team together they look at the record last year yeah and when you look at that you go okay then we got to change a lot of stuff and you just have to respect that no totally and I I think it's the anytime a new regime comes in they're going to want to get their guys it doesn't mean that they're you know against the other guys but they're going to get ones that they feel good about that they can handpick that they know will kind of fit what they Envision so you know this isn't the first place this is happened it won't be the last in NFL you know well I also think KJ Henry being gone is really good news for Jamon Davis and perhaps even uh javante Jee Baptist the draft pick out of Notre name previously of Ohio State I think I I think we got our healthiest dose of this with the Jan doson trade but I I feel like organizationally they are continue to send these signs like yo we're building law Hall here this is year one of a multi-year thing whereas fans have gotten really jazzed up about Jaden Daniels and are like all right how are we gonna win the division this yeah that's totally it and I think there's competing wavelengths right but I think that's always the case too you know I I think the fans will always and not to say that ownership and the coaching staff don't have urgency it's more I guess I would say calculated because they they have a better understanding of how long it may take with the Personnel they have um and then they know what the bigger vision is down the road and fans obviously aren't always privy to the details um so I yeah I mean I I I I like that the expectation is to always you know we should win it all now I think that's you know if if the expectation is you know if we can just you know finish 500 then we'll all be satisfied I think something's drastically wrong with your fan base that's is my personal opinion so I think it's kind of healthy for the fans to to have lofty expectations for this group but realistically yeah it's it's it's going to take some time I mean I the way that they buil this team is so it will take a little bit time because the framework is built by these veterans on one twoyear deal well they're going to be gone in a year two years so you know they're trying to build it up I think the whole time every every move they made has been calculated and they basically came in saying what they were going to do and and that's how Football goes you get some veterans on One twoyear deals and then those guys you draft that year ready to go and then when they start leaving then you got some more guys and you just keep it going all of a sudden you could be good for a long period of time instead of just being good one year and search in the next two or three right right no yeah I agree with you totally I because I I don't I don't think anything wants just the flash you know if you if you have a team that's built to win and you go all out like the Rams did to win the Super Bowl and you do it awesome but I mean there there there are ways from that they might have a really good quarterback but there's still a number of holes on this roster that they got to fill talking with Nicki jaala from The Washington Post give her a follow Nikki n Ki jabala jha B VA L A and if you'd like to see uh pictures of the new boss of the javala household follow her on Instagram as well um I I I all I post it used to be occasional picture of an eagle and now it's just all Julian content um yeah I used to like post my dogs more I totally neglected them I'm awful I hope I didn't tell you this but when the baby show up the dog just falls in the pecking order and it's it's a tough it's a tough fact of life we still love the dogos but I experienced it and you're going to be all right I promise I know I know looking around the league as we see these releases the the couple things I've been paying a lot of attention to um a pair of defensive players that got released by Dallas last night and one of them frankly with the release of KJ Henry makes me pay a little more attention to it and some of the T Castro Fields like there there's a corner and a DN from Dallas that I know sources have told me Dan Quinn really liked and now they're available um and then Noah Brown getting cut in Houston being available I I find pretty interesting what you any other names or what are those names mean for you any guys you think they're watching yeah I mean anybody that has direct connections to Adam Peters Dan Quinn or Cliff kingsberry I think are all fair game um any of the guys that they got an up close look at from the Jets the Dolphins the Patriots I mean there's some recency bias I think in a lot of NFL signings so I would keep a close eye on the guys that get waved there um one name that did say that I don't know that he's been waved yet it was you know reported that they're trying to move them and if not they'll wave them but Tim Patrick with Denver now bigger receiver he's dealt with a a number of some serious injuries but when healthy he's very good um and this team could use not only receiving help but a bigger body over there so um he's one that I'm kind of looking at I think uh Adam Peters claimed him off waivers in San Fran in 17 too he didn't last long but he did claim liked them initially so we'll see what they think there is there are you surprised at all you've reported it so I'll let you tell tell us what you know but the attempt to maybe trade um Stromberg Turner and John Ridgeway level of surprise with those three and what if any Market is there yeah so I I reported Ridgeway and Turner I don't know about sha Bri just yet but um yeah and I mean not surprising no I mean I I I I think the these are guys that were on the bubble um they're young guys maybe other teams view them as you know having um you know you look at their size too like I I think that's intriguing I think I think ridgeway's a good player and in the right system he could be good Turner's a little bit more raw but he's a bigger guy that could be appealing to a team so yeah I'm not surprised by them trying to make these types of deals or at least attempting to um and then moving on I think it's smart try to get some value for him um just kind of see what the market you know brings back but you know we'll see if they actually get anything for those guys I I won't be surprised if they don't honestly yeah me neither and I don't mean that like rudely does it seem like with the fact of them being able to bring back 17 guys does it take away the sting a little bit you think in this point compared to what it used to be Nicki um a little bit I think um I just think that the notion of the 53 Main roster is just I don't know I I think the still view it as like the roster and it's not I mean they only make one cut now but that one cut is really sort of like a draft you know it's like not not like an INF like a like a first draft of of something right like it they're just getting started they're going to make tweaks to it they're going to make changes um so I I I feel like the expectations of you know an initial 53 man roster it's not the final one by any means and then of you know the practice squad yes with it being bigger now 17 guys like you said I mean yeah I mean it it gives them some flexibility and being able to add guys back but at the same time those guys got to clear waivers and even if you do add them to their practice squad they're still viewed as free agents other team so another team could instantly pluck them off your practice squad and add them to their active roster as much as they love coaches love telling their guys and then eventually that news gets out hey we'd love to get this person back on our practice squad that's cool that's all well and good but you're cutting them and that means somebody else can get them you know what I mean exactly there there's there's ways to try to phrase things and make it nicer than it is but you're you're still releasing a player um right but to that point we make all this conversation around the initial 53 dude by the time we get to the first four games you're on the road three times by the time they get to that home game I believe it's against the Panthers in early October maybe it's the Raven um this roster is GNA look dramatically different like the roster an NFL roster is like a living breathing organism that changes significantly over the course of multiple months oh totally I mean it just looked like the the commanders offensive line the last three seasons I mean like I feel like this starting offensive line if they come out with all five of their expected starters in week one even changes so many times during the season because of injuries performance whatever other reason I mean it's bound to change countless times so that's what I mean I I think like this initial 53 this notion that you know yay you've you've made the team you're G to go for 17 games that's not really how it is yeah agreed montavis Bryant uh that releas and is it more that he hadn't played in so long or is it something else with that with who Martavius Bryant um I think that's partially it you know the fact that he's 32 he hasn't played an active game in six years like you said um you know I don't the problem for him is he came in fairly late in training camp so he got he got two preseason games but the first one was rush because he you know signed like 24 hours after he got there so um yeah I mean I I think I well I think he will clear waivers just because he he wasn't signed in the six months between his first visit with Washington so you know if he can add him to the practice squad and have them as somebody can call up as the standard elevation or activate down the road I think that could be helpful but you know at at 32 I don't know that any person is the same level they were at at 32 when they were you know in their mid 20s God that would be nice wouldn't it um talking with I mean I am not uh we're talking with our friend Nicki jaala this is more of like a existential question I suppose Brian and I were talking about this and as you look ahead to this season I think there are a lot of real question marks right like I I I'm really curious about the evolution of Cliff kingsbery as a play caller and a play designer like he he said he feels night and day different from his time with Arizona you know five years ago when he when he was dreaming up the first offense for Kyler Murray and I don't know about the secondary I think there's real questions there but of this receiver group you're looking at a group that as it looks right now is going to be mclen zakus Brown I don't we don't know but Pringle Crowder mcaffrey right and whatever you think that group is if that's a C+ a B+ maybe you think it's an A+ whatever you think that group is that's G to be announced today by four o'clock how much different did that group look to you with jand dat um because our argument is that it's kind of marginal like it I don't know that it was significant it's marginal if you're if you're just basing it off what he's shown so far to me it looked a little bit different because I I felt there was more potential with Jan um just based on what he did in year one um so I kind of viewed it two ways like if he can play more like that guy with that we saw then I think it's it's a it's a stronger receiving core no doubt but if he plays more like he did last uh oh maybe the eagle got Nikki all right we'll see if we get Nikki back um she also might be getting calls so maybe just text her thank you we appreciate the time because that that's a busy lady right there um I didn't you and I talked about that receiver question but I do want to ask the boys L Lil if the receiving group now is a let's be let's let's wake up and choose generosity a B minus what were they with Jan datson B minus okay I think I think they're I think the league would suggest when you have to send a player and a fifth rounder to get a third back that you're not talking about a a dynamic differen maker Jeffrey if you're at B minus which frankly I'd be at just flat C but if you're at B minus what would the group have been when doson was still here well to be honest I I have to talk to like some of my friends and stuff JP I came to the conclusion that it actually it will still be a B minus and the only reason why it's a B minus is because Terry is so good and that's that's what it's been yeah other other than that I think I think like like we we selectively look at stuff okay first year outstanding last year we saw some costly little drops and we start kind of a step back injuries started to pop up this year I think the big difference was the repeated I once NFL defenses learned that there's a problem and there's a problem getting off the line and getting played physical still it was a step back and then this year you saw well the words he said to people I lost my confidence I got to get it back yeah I talked to from former players you know what they said you don't tell that to no damn body you just go out there and get that back once you tell somebody you lost your confidence then it really is bothering you Panthers have released wide receiver Terrace Marshall I believe he was a second round pick a couple years back he's also an LSU Tiger now was not he did not play with Jaden um but I'm guessing they know each other uh you you have receivers all over the league getting open I I do want to go around the league there's plenty to discuss but folks I think are somewhere between curious and pissed about this KJ Henry release lini if you're all right with it let's let folks sound off on Cut day thus far 8800 636 1067 800 636 1067 KJ Henry is gone Martavis Bryant is gone there are some players out there Sam Hartman is gone what do you make of the moves so bar e e e e e e e e e e e e I'm roll fory we're brought to you by the Reynolds and power home team Keller Williams realy Lots going on Cut Down day for the NFL everyone including the command ERS team has released wide receiver Martavis Bryant the 32-year-old veteran attempting a comeback also commanders QB rookie Sam Hartman among those released today we'll keep you posted on all the moves that are being made throughout the afternoon here on the fan the other commanders news is new naming rights for the stadium in Landover an eight-year agreement for the commanders with Northwest Federal Credit Union for what now will be Northwest Stadium baseball today got another one tonight against the Bronx bombers Nats and Yanks prize Prospect Dylan Cruz made his DC debut last night went 0 for three with a walk those two go at it again tonight Nats and Yankees 635 first pitch for Nats baseball here in the fan want to hear the fastest way to know what your home would sell for reach out to the Empower home team simply text your address to 8763 3000 no phone call just text your address to 8763 3000 8763 3000 from the crop medcap Five Star Sports desk I'm roll fory on the fan B Finley 1067 the fan it's cut day baby uh for a lot of guys uh end of the road for a lot of guys end of one road perhaps beginning of another uh one dude that ain't getting cut is Austin Eckler he'll be on with Grant Danny at three check that out um but right now we're taking your calls on all the news that has transp transpired um the biggest headline might be Martavis Bryant released but that's a dude that hadn't played in six years hasn't been really a dominant player in 10 years I don't think that should be that big of a surprise um arguably the the most you know head scratching is cutting KJ Henry a guy that's produced at a decent level not the most explosive athlete for an edge rusher but just had a sack in the preseason finale I think it makes a lot more sense why they played him so much in the preseason finale now um had that really good sack last year in New England that he got flag for which was kind of a joke that was a joke what do the folks think 8636 1067 do you like the cuts are you mad about it let's start with in Woodbridge what up Jake hey how you going guys what up man hey uh man I just really want to know what we're doing at receiver now I mean letting go doson and then now we get rid of martes Bryant are we going after somebody we have to right like we have to be looking at signing a big number one receiver outside of Terry I don't think so I would I would I I listen I I said it when it happened with uh Dawson that I think something else is coming but the ultimate thing for me is this you let Dawson go but when you say that about Martavius Bryan he hadn't played in six years man nobody has signed him in six years but when you say they're gonna bring somebody else in a weapon yeah but I'm just saying you if you if you're a we know that he's a weap if you hadn't played in six years I I don't think many people in the league consider you a weapon no I agree I agree dude if he was such a weapon he wouldn't have been available in mid August but hang on yeah we have to be going after somebody right what does that mean because I I I get this a lot and like I think they might sign somebody at white out but do you think trading Jan doson and getting a third rounder and then cutting Martavis Bryant means they're going after like Brandon auk because I to me those two things don't add up it might not be auk but it's got to be somebody I mean now we now we have cleared two roster spots theoretically right so Brian was hardly go down the list well if you go down the list I mean do we really have are we really deep at receiver for this young rookie to come in here and sling it no but I don't think they were with those two guys I I think I think there's a fundamental misunderstanding let me be crystal clear the players that will line up on the field week one in Tampa are going to risk life and limb to win that game the coaching staff that will that will travel and stand on that sideline against the Tampa Bay Bucks in week one all they want the most important thing in their life that day will be to win that ball game the folks that are putting this team together for the first time in a long time are trying to operate with a very big broad picture and and winning week one is not the end all Beall as it is building a long-term roster that they think can be competitive and eventually win titles and I think that's where that's where the disconnect is yo what do they don't have enough at white out they've got to be doing something right I I don't know that they're doing so it could be a setup for next year you know know but I just think the fact that we all question what they have right now I just think that there's still another move to come yeah I do I do agree with you I think there's a move comings there is like like they're gonna sign I think they're gonna sign a w it mean it means that they're gonna try and do something else I just like a lot of people aren't satisfied what they have I'm sure they not 100% satisfied yeah they building for the Long Haul but they damn sure gonna try to compete in time being so when I saw Jan leave I said it there and I say it gotta be something else coming canar Tony just got released nothing to do Martavius Bryant because I'm like dude had played six years nobody was signing him I'm not even worried about that but I think people make a jump too far that is like okay they traded they traded Jan now the auk thing is gonna happen I I never said anything about auk I said I think there's another playing and another move coming and I don't I don't know if it's auk or anybody else but even if they go out and get a guy that's not even established that that has a little bit more experience you know it's another move I I don't listen I'm not stuck on the iuk thing I I have not wanted to talk about auk the whole time everybody just want to talk about it um Chiefs have released cadarius Tony I mean I don't know I I don't know that I share the excitement that some do Tony when he is locked in when complaining with Pat Mahomes as your quarterback then you got a problem yeah um you know I think there some real questions about uh what Tony was off the field uh let's go to Charlie in Anapolis Charles how do you do buddy I'm good it's thanks for uh taking my call this team has been a perennial loser for so long I'm you know I I'm I'm well I know that Adam Peters in a is in a difficult situation and he's got to make some decisions to get it down to what he thinks is the best 53 players I don't care what moves he's making as long he's doing what's in the long-term interest of the team so you know I support any decision that you know he does in terms of the players that he cuts I mean obviously you know as a member of the fan base some of us get attached to players that have been with the team for a few years but it's led to nothing but losing so you got to do what you got to do to get better you know right um thanks for the call dude 866 with brother 800 636 1067 uh we're reacting as cut day continues to unfold I'm going to channel my inner doc Walker here they were four and 13 like yeah nobody is that's the ultimate thing truly Untouchable like that that guy is so right where he said we get so attached to people and and I'm like yeah you can get attached but like I've I've said every year I want to win when you go places you don't like people always talking about how bad your team was you want to win and sometimes you got to make some drastic changes to get there how much of the KJ Henry decision Brian do you think is we're getting rid of Ron's guys I don't think they think about that I think they going with guys that fit what they want to do and and like there other Ron guys that they you know if they come in if you can play you can play that's the main thing and if you don't fit our bill you don't fit our mindset then he we let you go but I think KJ Henry does he do more than just play that pass Rush can he bu a special teams play um I mean he has been but I don't know it he's gone whatever it is I'm just saying so it's like I mean I I think like we get to a point we say yeah I remember when Adam P was hired we all said this is the number one guy boom boom boom now every time he makes a move we all complain it I know I'm not the guy can put the team together but the ultimate thing is if that was the guy and they don't fit what he and Dan thinks that make a move and go forward and then you go back to what doc said with 4 and3 last year another Ron Rivera cut another Ron Rivera draft pick cut uh standing says they're they're releasing Chris Rodriguez running back if you watched at all the preseason and frankly if you were at practice and I know a lot of fans got to watch a lot of practice they clearly were out on Chris Rodriguez um like damn near immediately uh if he gets claimed but he's gone he may may not but like for me I I I like when you say the the team is out sometimes the player makes the team get out sure the effort and all that you got to have that with you you know it's like this this thing is not given and if you're not out there giving everything you got you get what you get sure I think it'd be just remarkable if guys were confident in what they had if you are in hell I mean even the first round picks like when there is a complete change over from the top down nobody should be confident comfortable any of those things and but when there's a complete turnover you come in the camp the next year and they like who the hell is this guy you know what I'm saying you don't come like with a taking a a step back um it's going to be fascinating to watch this unfold Chris Rodriguez was it was one of the the most Stark wow they're done with this guy things I think we've seen I mean even in the third preseason game let me see if I still have that box score open Rodriguez in the third preseason game this is all you need to know Wy got seven carries McNichols got five carries Austin Jones got eight eight carries Cass Allen Got Two Carries Cod got one and it wasn't because they liked him so much you know what I mean yeah I would also point this out for anybody telling me that c Allen should be on this roster as a running back he had two carries for two yards in that preseason game I I I don't understand keeping Allen over Wy maybe you there's a different determination or they're only I think Cass size affects him at the running back yeah dude I mean when a linebacker comes through there a linebacker maybe 62 250 he's getting in front of him and stopping him he put one on the ground like two weeks ago listen I listen and the thing about it I know that they could probably come up with ways to utilize what he what he what he's capable of but the player also has an obligation to make sure that they know that they could trust here we go you been waiting for them caller number 10 right now you win two tickets to Leonard skinnard and zezy top the Sharp Dressed Man Tour Sunday September 8th at jiy Lube Live tickets are on sale now for tickets and more event information visit 947 thedrive.com events caller number 10 800 636 1067 you can win tickets for that that could be a pretty damn cool day if you're a commanders fan you watch Washington play Tampa at 4 then you go see skinnard and zezy top that night you're going to drink some beers that that's a long day pace yourself nobody go anywhere we got to make some bets e e e e e e e e e e e I see what you're doing here lville I also one of my favorite motion pick scoring scenes days confused when all the kegs are empty at the party at the moon tower and they play this it's really really good it's really really well done I believe it's Link Link letter is the director there really well done um something that's not really well done B ready for this what's that I'm going to take you through the 2023 commanders draft class Emanuel Forbes was the first pick number 16 um I think it's fair to say this with questions there we'll see maybe the young man lfi is hitting him with the sound effects Juan Martin by a wide stretch looks like the best pick in this draft second rounder out of Illinois uh third round pick Ricky Stromberg barely got on the field for you last year um they are exploring trade options now per somebody um if you're exploring ing trade options at 148 on Cut day ain't great if you're exploring trade options at 148 on Cut day is about the same as like not having a date for the Valentine's Day party at midnight on February 13th like odds are you ain't getting a date yeah midnight is already at 14 11:59 likeing on the 13 is like way way ahead Jay like if if the girl you like hasn't told you what she wants for Christmas by Christmas Eve she probably just doesn't want to talk to you um that's Ricky strawberry R she expect you to know yeah that's true uh Braden Daniels your fourth rounder who got uh put on the IR last year with a fake injury just to red shirt him um they just released KJ Henry and they've released Chris Rodriguez the sixth-rounder and they've released Andre Jones uh the seventh Soom of seven picks the bottom three three are already gone the first one there are real questions about and I think it's entirely bringing some of those guys back you know sure I I don't know but sure I I it's entirely possible that one year after they were drafted there will be two out of seven players from the 23 draft class on this roster on the initial 53 for The Following season but that that's that's that's something that normally happens when you got a new staff come in too though yes but that is Extreme turnover one year in yeah but it's one year in and you're talking about they kept every Dem every one of their their um draft picks which is not always something that's saying that it was that that the guys were that great is that you wanted to look great B there is always turnover yeah new staff comes in there's always significant turnover but one year later to have two of seven draft picks on your Rost that's what I'm saying it's one year later and you had a person who wanted to keep all his draft picks just to make himself look good sure that's all I'm saying yeah yeah yeah all right let's make some bets we heard it here first alrighty boys new week new us what do you got Yankees minus one and a half against did you guys make bets yesterday without us no okay I went uh one and0 all you guys went 0 and one nah you didn't go one and0 I don't think I don't think that's accurate oh no I just saw the natat starting pitchure for tonight you see the Yankees starting it's gonna be a blood paath give me Yankees I don't want I never pick anybody that Jeff picks minus one and a half Yankees gar Cole on the mound take it um something incredibly weird is happening my phone is like recording me right now but I can't figure out how or why did you have on a screen screen grab no dude I think someone's leaving me a voicemail right let me see is it like a voicemail and a like a little it's not recording letting you know somebody Le voice that's not recording you just watch now you can watch it or you can turn it off oh all right I tell you boy dude just don't know how to use technology anymore I'm going Aaron judge to hit a home run everybody's making bets on this Nat yank Showdown tonight huh all right I'm going take the Dodgers so you zagging I'm taking the Dodgers B Mitch is taking the Dodgers wait about 30 seconds and he'll throw his parlay in um I'm just sticking to the Dodgers I know what I'm doing it's a lie B I'm just sticking to Dodgers today that's all I know I I see nothing else that uh that excites me well now I got to be honest with you I'm going to make a confession I do not know so normally you lied to us you got say you going to be honest I don't know that the system applies to the WNBA I am not going to make a system pick tonight even though there is a system pick available the Dallas wings are at home getting 10 with the Las Vegas Aces coming to town but I believe the Vegas aces are really good and the Dallas wings look pretty bad so I'm G lay the nine and a half lanfield give me the aces minus n and a half um I wanted to say this I I quickly um Sunday at noon before we went to the commanders game I went to the Washington spirit game I had a blast man Audi field is cool um that team is really always been cool man yeah Audi Field's cool that the the spirit are really good I feel like they could have put up 10 on Kansas City if they wanted to they scored four goals um they have really good activities for kids if you want to take your kids there I enjoyed it so if you're looking for something to do they have a good crowd there I'm not they're not like begging for people to come um I know that because I had to pay regular prices for tickets but uh it was fun next time call me I I needed eight I got a guy but I needed eight and that's a big ask if I need a pair then I'll call well I could have if you could have got half of a thing care about half yeah but I needed them all together blah blah blah I I didn't want I want half and then you we'll pay for the other four next to it okay next time I I didn't want to lean on people for my daughter's birthday all right grant and Danny coming your way next is roster cutdown day he going to be news all day I got a peanut stuck in my throat thank you to Mike Jones Thank you to bar stool Nate thank you to Nicki jval if you made it this far be CH your beer e e e e e e e e e e e I'm roll fory we presented by pvi office furniture fast excellent affordable business grows with pvi lots to get to cut down day in the NFL 4M deadline commanders thus far have reportedly released rookie quarterback Sam Harton Hartman wide receiver Martavis Bryant defensive end KJ Henry wide receiver Mitchell Tinsley running back Chris Rodriguez and defensive back Tariq Castro Fields team also reportedly exploring possible trade options for a couple of other players defensive tackle John Ridgeway e e e Eckler as Earl just told you we'll be on the show today at 3 we're excited to talk to one of the 53 commanders who's going to be making the team officially this afternoon and we are giving away great tickets to go see Kevin Hart when he performs live at d const stitution Hall at 4:00 ahead of the blitz that's 2 hours from right now ladies and gentlemen Danny R my God that's Danny's music uh miserable today it's back we had we had our fall teaser trailer last week and now we're back to hot and shitzy it's going to be worse tomorrow but whatever we're doing football stuff don't you just like a nice reminder of what it could be like around here if it were nice all the time it's just nice to know what it could be like if you lived in a place where the weather was awesome uhhuh and then he gets slapped in the face with just smacked I mean as soon as I came outside this morning go oh no oh no it's bad it's gross but matters of football to attend to my friend the the waving the roster Cuts whatever you want to call it it's fast and furious around the league certainly is we will give you all of the proceedings on the commanders front and around the NFL as the day goes on we'll get to that in one minute I do want to say thanks to all the listeners who came up and and spent some time with us yesterday at the Ballpark very cool we got to uh chat with a bunch of you and um it was just cool be out and about and watching baseball on a pretty exciting night at Nationals Park Dylan Cruz in his debut went 0 for three did draw a walk uh was clocked at 94 miles an hour with a throw from The Outfield so showed off the tools a little bit in right field he will play in his second game at Nats Park against the Yankees tonight but thank you to those of the listeners who came up and spent part of their day at the Ballpark with us over in the left field Concourse in the red box the teeniest tiniest bit of uh toting our own horn here if I may it's stuff like this is really cool I know we try never to take it for granted how how cool it is what we get to do and the like multiple people yesterday unprompted and this is so nice and flattering and awesome and it means a lot told us that they are Nationals fans because of us I think the Nationals probably had something to do with it like them winning some games I'll give Juan stto Anthony randone Trey Turner and Max Sherer some credit too but if you want to also put us in that group and like give us credit like you know what I mean like in a way I'm kidding but they they said that World Series rings as a national same number Juan stto or Danny ruer equal okay equals you get what I'm getting I smell what you're cooking but stuff like that is just so cool all we're just a couple of baseball dorks that that love it too and it's i' never take it for granted that there's a team in my hometown when that seemed impossible for still the majority of my life so it's awesome and that means a lot so we appreciate it as news trickles out on commanders being released on cutdown day they're going to form their roster over the next 90 minutes or so Dan Quinn's going to speak in a couple hours we're going to have his Zoom press conference for you on the show today as we get closer to 5:00 right when it concludes we will play it for you in its entirety clean it up make sure it sounds good but we're going to as news keeps trickling out cut by cut we'll pass it along and we'll discuss in more detail the guys that are more relevant to you our listening audience and I want to start the conversation there KJ Henry got cut today fifth round pick out of Clemson was drafted by by the Rivera era Marty party but had a strong Camp when I was out there I was always impressed and in the preseason he was pretty constantly being called his name was being mentioned a lot he had a sack now that was nothing impressive about it in that he came free it was a blown assignment by New England he was unblocked but he was the one that hit jacobe brassette when he got up grabbing at his shoulder and left the game with an injury in the preseason finale against the Patriots the other night little bit surprised by this probably really good news for javante Jean Baptist out of Notre Dame who was a seventh round pick by this group Obviously good news for Jamon Davis in terms of the holdovers from the Rivera era as well but I think you're going to see this in a lot of the bubble decisions who brought you here yeah one in doubt that's where you lean were you the last group's guy or are you our guy and that's how it probably should be they're building something in their image I do think Henry will stick around if he doesn't get claimed look how often do we talk about this Danny every single year I feel we do the same exercise you can't afford to cut that guy he's going to end up on somebody's roster and then almost nobody ever gets signed anybody's roster I would say he's right at the top of the list of players with a chance to be but I always just kind of assume you'll be able to sneak whoever you want onto the practice squad for a team like this that isn't that good where there's plenty of roster battles frankly where like whether the guy ends up on the P squad or the active roster doesn't really make a lot of sense they're interchangeable yeah this is not one of those positions now defensive tackle is one where I go who whomever they move on from and by the way I saw a report that John Ridgeway might be available via trade that maybe they' let some teams know that but because if you move on from ridgewear you move on from feran matthys who I know hasn't shown a ton has been injured a bunch but still second round pick who's got some Talent a lot of those guys would be signed would would make an active roster that defensive end spot respectfully is not that th that's a they make a lot of KJ Henry there's there's seven or eight of that guy right now that's on the waiver wire somewhere I don't mean to be disrespectful it's an NFL player but think he plays with a lot of effort I like he's got a motor and he's got some traits like athletic tools you're not a four star I think you might have even been a five star at one point yeah it was super highight T of guy I think that doesn't happen out of high school into college if you don't have some legitimate tools in the belt so to speak I just think when he gets a chance he plays well I thought in the second half of last year he was pretty good actually didn't you I did yeah I mean it look it certainly looks the part but I guess my point is that this is it's not like they just let some double digit sack guy walk it's not like they they let somebody that was going to step up and play huge here he's how much worse are you with with Dante Fowler getting reps or Cleveland Ferell or Davis on a position conversion it's probably six1 a half dozen of the other what is a double digit sack guy I'm not familiar with that so here this is a great question because you haven't seen it in a long time what happens is let's say the NFL season occurs okay so how many games you know this 17 games a guy will often times do what's called rush the passer so the P the guy drops back he's the guy that runs out the quarterback yeah so someone instead of handing it off which is the running back the quarterback will drive back he wants to throw the ball yeah one of your guys now this is the team that you like will tackle him behind the line of scrimmage oh like uh Ryan carrian used to do he used to do that and and if you get so like a Dexter Manley Charles man in that vein yeah and you get a guy that does that uh semi-frequently maybe every 1.1 games on average you can get like nine even 10 double digits sacks well one guy one guy can I just don't know if I believe that yeah dude I'm telling you I've seen it do do players do that in one year in the league pretty routinely I would say yeah especially in this passing era guys are doing that all the time that is pretty amazing not here though you know what I mean no not here a Martavis Bryant wide receiver some thought that maybe he was going to be the sixth guy in he has been released today it was reported and this is a tell generally that it came from the agent that if he gets through waivers uh he will be on the rce Squad which makes a ton of sense and you could tell they like him yes he caught a touchdown late with a couple minutes left against the Patriots and Adam Peters is running over to hug him and bunch of his teammates are greeting him out on the field hopping around going crazy that's how you know a guy is popular in the dressing room and that players are rooting for him that the staff is rooting for him it's been 10 years since he was really good it's been almost seven years since he caught a pass in the league so it' be an amazing story if he could get back on the field I actually thought he might make the team I did too actually just because of the lack of size in the room but I will say Danny that if you look around the NFL there are wide receivers all over the place getting cut today who have performed adequate adequately at the National Football League level way more recently than Martavis Bryant who have size who are also getting cut guys like Noah Brown in Houston with the Texans former cowboy was there when Dan Quinn was there who's made over 70 catches the last couple years had 500 yards last year he's big he's 6'2 215 pounds he'd look good as far as I'm concerned in burgundy and gold I saw that terce Marshall a former second round pick is only 24 years old has been a huge disappointment but maybe a change of scenery could help him uh he's a guy at 6'2 that the Panthers cut today that hit the wire so it's easy to say Martavis Bryant comes back on the practice squad but there are probably not six wide outs on this team that are better than some of the guys being cut by good teams Mitchell Tinsley is a an example of a guy he didn't dress most of last year was on the team but never caught a ball or was targeted he got cut today you could bring him back on your P squad or you could probably just try to grab somebody with second in the waiver wire remember only the Panthers that's the only team gets the to pick and choose between the players getting cut before Washington does so my guess is they bring in a wide receiver from outside the building you would think so and I think everyone a lot of people around the league are probably watching what Houston does they got a pretty deep receiver room over there right where they've got they added Stefan Diggs to niik Collins and tank Dell uh you know drafted a couple guys over the last couple years too that could probably help them so like a Robert Woods for example who you know is a veteran who they might say hey let's do right by or maybe let's float something up the flag pole maybe you can give us a conditional late round pick for or something like that a guy with some pelts on the wall who's probably not as not not probably isn't as explosive as he was a couple years ago that's an intriguing name uh to to sort of Monitor and watch uh Denzel Mims a former high draft pick with size just got cut by the Jaguars the point is to to as you said there are going to be opportunities probably to slightly improve that room I don't think the major move is coming you and I both theorized that don't want to speak for you but I don't think that big trade that home run that t Higgins that Brandon auk is coming but that marginal Improvement that fifth guy out of six that's cut by someone else with a better room that might be happening today is a no news is good news day there are players that'll just sit by the phone they'll try to stay busy and and put something on their schedule go see a movie or you know go go to lunch with a loved one or something but you're just waiting for your phone to R you don't get call generally to tell you you made the team very very rare but occasionally does that happen when it's a cool enough story that maybe the team wants to record it or or do something fun with it most of the time you just keep hoping no one calls you and you get to show up at the building for practice this afternoon which they're going to have much later than they normally do I say that to say at least publicly from what we know Jameson Crowder's phone has not wrong doesn't sound like we have any news yet on Bryson Tain the former undrafted free agent and Stanford C Allen's name has not been publicized as having been released Byron Pringle all all those back of the roster wide receivers so we're still waiting to figure out exactly what the commanders decide any other surprises before we move on to the other news of the day for Washington as far as Cuts so far that have been publicized I wouldn't say surprise but interesting to me uh a couple notes one another name for the another couple names from the 2023 draft uh which didn't go particularly well the guys at the top Forbes and Quan Martin are going to be here Martin looks like he might be able to stick but there a couple other candidates there be they Braden Daniels maybe Ricky Stromberg who might also be candidates uh KJ Henry now gone there was a report today they're trying to trade strongberg which that I would say good luck and they're also apparently dangling Cole Turner in trade conversations um and they should like if you're a good front office if you're an executive who knows what you're doing and Adam Peters qualifies before you release a player you should make 25 phone calls why not hey what are you looking for where you at on the waiver wire you're 19th you need a guard I got a guy I got Ricky Stromberg so they'll see if they can get any of these guys traded I often hear people say Danny well why would I trade for someone if I know you're cutting them and it's because if you're low down the waiver order you don't have a chance potentially so if you really want someone or you like someone you've probably put out a feeler to Adam Peters already saying hey if that guy's not going to make your team give me a call and that's kind of how that starts but I don't know that that they have a whole lot of talent in the way of players that other clubs are lining up for to acquire via trade yeah just again to that end via the the 2023 draft Chris Rodriguez they let go um what didn't they like about him I mean he my goodness he was practicing as like the last running back through drills it was Robinson Eckler McNichols Wy supplanted him pretty quickly they started using Cass Allen in these preseason games a wide receiver who hasn't been able to make it at that position before they were giving Chris Rodriguez touches yeah he just not their guy they did not seem to be a fan uh for whatever reason and to me like he's not the style that I would go after but he's he's got a little bit of the things that I like but I want a lot of the things that I like here's what I know about Chris Rodriguez on the field when he played he had some success he was pretty decent he led the team in yards per attempt last year and in the preseason last year he was excellent now it wasn't quite as good this season a couple of his best runs I think were called back for penalties as a matter of fact caught a couple passes in in the third preseason game he did yeah wasn't their guy and that's going to be a reoccurring theme McNichols they brought in may make the team I think Wy who they did release today the undrafted free agent from Arizona is someone to monitor on the PE Squad AG he's got game I like him there's a bur there for them Rodriguez I I I wonder if for Rodriguez about pass Pro just in in you know lining up in shotgun pretty much every time which it seems like that's what they're goingon to be doing he's huge if he can't do that he's a moris Jones Drew kind of low to the ground bowling ball kind of guy he needs to get better at that if if that is a problem and I don't know that it is I speculate I have no idea yeah I'm just saying though he's way too big for that not to be a strength like you're already gonna have some issues with some of the teams that want the Shifty guy who who has wiggle when you're that frame of a running back you should be able to pick up linebackers uh but regardless he's out defensively I don't think there have been any real surprises outside of KJ Henry the one story that caught my attention today was you and I were discussing the D tackle position where Allen and Payne are their starters they drafted Johnny Newton in the second round and they've got some other down the- depth chart veterans who have played really well like Benning po poto the question was who who's going to make the team between fer and matys and John Ridgeway and I'm sure you saw that several of the beat reporters today were yes saying that John Ridgeway is on the trade block I don't know that that means that he's the guy getting cut but it stands to reason that if they're not saying federan is on the trade block and they're keeping one of those guys maybe it would be matth so if you go for just again I'm making this up sake of argument you go one guy is six the other guy's half a dozen there might be more interest for Ridgeway than for matthysse who hasn't been healthy and hasn't really played but if they go you know what we'll get the same production we and we might get something for Ridgeway then we'll pull that trigger I bet you if they don't get a Ridgeway offer that is acceptable to them then maybe they you know try to put matthys on the P squad or or or something of that effect and and roll with rid but but if you've got them graded pretty evenly think they'll help you the same amount then it becomes you know sort of a luxury an extra thing and you could you could spin that into an asset couple of names I'm interested in finding out the fate of are Derek Forest who two years ago the safety from Cincinnati was a starter yes and in fact was making plays generating takeaways huge thumping hits in the secondary like flew around the field a little bit yeah I got to a point with him where I thought as a mid- round pick this is a guy who's going to be around here for a while it's a win yeah he is now squarely on the bubble and I think has a real chance not to make it depending on how many safeties they keep Jeremy Reeves who was an all proo a couple seasons ago is another guy who's been fighting for a roster spot it seems like that's his whole career as a special teams Ace but I would think you would keep him before Forest but those are two guys to keep track of today at corner one veteran who is out reportedly is James Pierre who they signed who played for the Steelers last year in the secondary and on special teams they also cut Tariq Castro Fields who they got on waivers season before last from San Francisco was been in and out of the building over the last couple of years so couple of the veterans have already found out their fate and I like that they do that earlier in the process with some of those older guys with some pelts on the wall because maybe you can get your agent to start making some phone calls and seeing what's what so the way that I done I mean again who am I but if I done my right when I did my 53 I thought Castro Fields would make it so that I thought he would be in so that kind of is is probably good news for maybe one extra safety or you know somebody they might uh you know that might not have been a headliner right there I thought Fields would make the 53 so I don't want to say that was a surprise but that was one of those one of my last guys in Dan Quinn will be speaking after the roster is submitted four o'clock's the deadline so we'll have all the answers on the 53 man over the next two hours then Quinn's going to talk you'll hear a big chunk of that conversation coming up today right here on Grant and Danny at 5:00 remember Austin Eckler is on the show with us in about 40 minutes at 3 next let's talk about the artist formerly known as FedEx Field there's a brand new name for the same old stadium in Landover Maryland you're listening to g& D e e e e e e e e e e e e e welcome back Grant and Danny on the fan we are live all over the DMV on 1067 you can watch the show we are streaming live via highdef video on the 1067 the fan YouTube page as well Austin Eckler stops by at three half hour from right now and at four o'clock we're giving away those tickets to see Kevin Hart when he comes to the nation's capital in September he'll be a DAR Constitution Hall Danny you were talking about some of the Rivera draft picks who have already been released today just going through the recent drafts of the Rivera era so Forbes and Martin rounds one and two are going to make this team the rest of the 23 picks though last year Stromberg Braden Daniels KJ Henry Chris Rodriguez and Andre Jones almost certainly will not make it Jones I guess we have not heard definitively so I don't want to say that he's not going to be in but there's a much better chance than not that their five picks from rounds three through seven will not make this team one year after the draft that is staggering yeah nobody from 2020 is left well 2020 is three years down the road let's keep going oh yeah we go that way 2022 Jan dodson's in Philadelphia but Aran matth is squarely on the bubble I guess he might make it after a big third game but was on the outside looking in coming into the week Brian Robinson is their starting running back and Percy Butler's a guy who's been battling to make the roster I think he'll make it with his speed and special teams ability Sam how is in Seattle Cole Turner expected to be released today Chris Paul unlikely to make the team Christian Holmes no longer here so what's the the grand total there if matys makes it Mattis two from the and Percy Butler yeah would be Mattis and Robinson there go yeah and PC there you go three 2021 Jamon Davis good news for him as KJ Henry's out Sam cosmi new position was drafted as a tackle now he's excellent as a guard Benjamin St Jon this is a whale of a draft this is the win look at this the Marty party flexing their rles here they took Jamon Davis in round one and he's still here as a defensive end Davis cosmi St dami Brown that's your number two receiver put some respect on his name John Bates Mr Bat Danny the first five picks they made are still here what do Derrik forest makes the team then send Rivera his ring as he asked that's six players in five rounds that will be on this roster wow now it gets a little tougher cam cheeseman's The Long Snapper they traded up for yeah who struggled immensely and you know trese was like like a short stop Fielding ground balls so they eventually cut him William Bradley King Shak Katon and Dax Mill no longer with the program those are late round picks though but the 2021 draft hard to call it a huge win because your first round pick at number 19 overall was Jamon Davis but in terms of quantity yeah some football players there that's that's a chunk of the roster and then you wanted to go to 2020 Chase young New Orleans Antonio Gibson New England I'll stop you when you name a current Commander Go Sadi char just retired Antonio Gandy golden I don't know what he's doing at this point but I don't think he's in the league Keith isil khik Hudson cam curl James Smith Williams Zippy none none from that class what an unbelievable four-year run for Rivera and the Marty parties but but go back to 21 okay it was really a good year really was send me in my ring don't forget that quote either yeah I think they're less people poking at Rivera's drafts and how bad a spot he left the roster in if he didn't ever make that comment that you're referencing well who was that to last year I don't remember exactly but so I was looking for it but was that in the John K like sit down after he was fired or am I making that that sounds right to me that's what it was if they make the playoffs with my 40 players that I brought in here I they might have 11 by the time it's all set when they win the Super Bowl send me my ring um the this that regime again was so bad under for so many reasons some of it not Rivera's Fault by the way something out of his own making the structure was broken from the beginning that's a SN whatever type construction but the point of the dude's story here is the what they always thought is they they saw something that no one else did and when you're you don't have any pelts on the wall you're not that smart you've never really done this at a high level before they reached for their guy multiple times over and every time they did that it blew up right in their face I mean right in their face not down the line not in a different office in their faces and it was always bad and it was always glaring and it was always obvious would you like to play a game Danny looks like you're in a a mood where you need a game okay all right here we go are you ready yeah all right let's do it darus Damron if you don't mind it is time to play the game I just thought of this game actually oh today we've never played this game before the name of this game is is this the name of a sports venue a DC sports team calls home oh or Kanye West's children again the name of the game is okay is this a sports venue a DC sports team calls home or Kanye West's children okay Northwest Northwest is that a DC Sports Stadium or is that Kanye West children what I think is that what the Stadium's called is that what they're calling it now they're going to call it that just called Northwest that's it Northwest Stadium were were you not awake all day long you saw new saw I saw that but it feels like as like are his kids really named that wait which one are you asking about is that what they're calling the stadium or is that what his name we're just they're just calling it Northwest Stadium I thought it was like Northwest Federal Credit Union uh LLC field at at FedEx Nubs or whatever oh no they're calling it Northwest Stadium East of the city correct okay to get back to the game at hand okay that Danny struggled with a little bit if I could say that I struggled a little too much with that that's both the name of Kanye West's children and also the name of the state is that true by the way I think he has a kid named North and a kid named West well maybe his name is West I was I was gonna ask if he had a name a kid named West West West West or am I making that up I have no idea or maybe it's South does he have a north and a South I I don't know GIS what you you now have me questioning I I don't know I know there's a North there's a North her last name's West that's all I know wait is that I'm sorry I know no one cares that we're you're doing a stadium thing no you're about is that a real thing guy you can't do this thing you know that's the name of his kids I've know I don't know what his kids names are yes you do I don't know what his children's name are they're they're brought up every hour on every by who every dumb show ever the ones that I don't watch or see or pay attention to just pump into it I don't either I don't know who anyone is I know Kanye West is I don't know who anyone is or what anyone's talking about that that's a that is a real thing is it like like a newborn child is named North no it's she's several years old at this point it's him and Kim Kardashian's baby from like six years ago oh that's like forever ago yes I mean this is something that's very commonly known you're just the old guy going say one of your words son don't you say ski like that's what you're doing you're like hey son get over here tell these guys that something's lit Maybe maybe I heard that somewhere and maybe it rattled around in here that felt like that was brand new to me that felt like that was the first I've ever heard that and I feel like we should be spending time on that we shouldn't be trust me North the oldest kid is Northwest okay then there's Saint West Saint so not South not South right so close to and no West West no West West yet the other kid is Chicago West what yeah Chicago West and then I don't know how to pronounce this one I'm going to say Palm West I could be wrong though what how do you spell it PS a l a m Psalm PSM Psalm Psalm West yes yeah that's Psalm there we go all right I knew that it didn't sound like you knew it I think I did Palm I knew it I think he called it a palm palm it's a part of a hand tell you where darus isn't on Sunday morning like tell me you go to church without telling me exactly myself a little bit when's the last time you sat in a Pew there buddy Bo we'd love to see you back in the flock on Sundays all right thank you D daddy father thanks Dad thank you Dad love you Dad the best dad Northwest Stadium how do we feel these are the kinds of things where I don't begrudge it I'm not bothered by it I'm happy for the people involved because what ultimately it is is the organization the team getting some cash I can't do it I can't keep up with it I I don't care about like what branding associated with the brand and we're branding our equity and our Marketplace and our our market share this will increase our Synergy I don't care about that sort of stuff it's a terrible Stadium call it what you want it's Nubs field well but along those lines I am really surprised and I would even use the word impressed that they got a deal done this quickly yeah and not only that they are going to make more money on this deal than on their previous deal with FedEx which is wild the average reportedly is going to exceed what was approximately $7.5 million per year from FedEx so you're approaching nearly 8 million per and what a coup this is for the Hogs the Harris ownership group and Company listen to this deal the terms of this deal is reported today it's an eight-year deal okay so if they are playing at the stadium through 2032 it'll be Northwest stadium for all eight of those football seasons however if and I'm going to say when but if they get a new stadium Josh Harris had a press conference that I sat in on at the stadium on Sunday afternoon and he projected 2030 as a legitimate reasonable Target for a new stadium if they open a new stadium at any point during this deal essentially the contract's Nan void and they can get a new stadium deal with a different company willing to pay them more money which would almost certainly you think that would happen yeah with all the respect to Northwest Federal Credit Union you know whatever that is I see Banks all over the place every day that's not one that I see very often nothing wrong with it take what you get I guess Grant and Danny field we didn't offer enough money that's fine I don't think we had have reached the $8 million per year number we couldn't get up that high uh we got close and odyssey put up a really good fight yeah what I was told I don't know what your people told you because the longer thing was it's one half an odyssey that you're on it's one half audacious and that was too long for the stadium correct and also it was an audacious ask it was an audacious ask for eight million dollar from us yeah which we weren't able to give them Stadium comes with the rewind function but seven and a half million per year was the old deal they past that mhm awesome job amazing I me that's money that helps that's all important in this process as and I it really is amazing that the whoever's in charge of that of getting that sale done again good for them this doesn't move me emotionally one way or the other but where you go you've already had the the big boss Josh Harris stand up and say we're looking elsewhere we're talking about 2030 for the new stadium nobody likes it no one is wants to be associated with it and yet here we are selling for a pretty good chunk of change in cash someone wanting to be associated with them fascinated by a company saying it ranks dead last in every ranking among every NFL stadium and in fact there was a ranking recently done that I saw of every stadium and every sport so it was the indoor arenas for the NBA and the NHL with NFL stadiums and they ranked like one to 90 something in the four major pro sports in America and Northwest stadium was dead last of all of them that's not necessarily what you're looking for when you attach your name to something obviously but I I guess it's the belief is number one you're getting on the ground floor you think that the value is X right now and it's going to be X Plus in a year or two you believe in Harris you believe in Peters you believe in Dan Quinn and you know they're not finding their North anymore they're finding their Northwest there it is and you're not being associated your obviously your name is the same but it's less about a stadium Association than it is about a brand association with a with something that's on the rise AK the local Washington 53 yeah right like as you said you said it very well the belief in the ownership group the belief in uh the business and the driving so all of a sudden fans if tens of thousands actually do go to the stupid Stadium then they see it uh television cameras when they're there for for everything whether it be the regional Fox the couple National games nighttime games whatever all of a sudden your name is right there less so about like we endorse this Stadium more so we're associated with just a visibility the football thing you probably don't have a chance if you're a again again I don't want to make it out like they're some tiny company they might be huge I just don't have much of a file but getting the naming rights of a stadium in the NFL is a big big big big deal you're probably not going to be able to do that in a lot of cities where the organization's relationship to the community is healthier so you're kind of opting in at you're buying in on something on the ground floor in a sense and it's a decent time to do that we've seen other companies get in bed with the commanders here over the last year or so when the the going is not as good but probably had a discount as well and I would imagine that the Patriots or the Steelers or U the Cowboys or something that AT&T for for Jerry's world's paying a hell of a lot more than seven and a half million dollars per year to be on that Stadium right which is a factor I also found myself thinking about the gats still not having a naming right deel for their the ballpark today yeah hard to ignore that and the story on that is always been that the Learners the owners of the Nationals have decided and I'm just going to use the simplest amount of money possible that it's worth $1 and they've gotten offers for 85 and 90 cents or 95 cents and they're just not willing to accept that because they think it's worth $ the problem with that logic if that's really why there hasn't been a name is you're now 16 years into not having a name so if you do the math on 90 cents hypothetically times 16 you've missed out on a hell of a lot of money you sure have and if you could get maybe it's not seven and a half million for a ballpark in baseball although the difference between you know 10 football games at Max and 81 baseball games I'd imagine the money is actually pretty comparable but I don't know what I don't know but the idea that because you can't get what you think it's worth you accept nothing for a year or two maybe over almost 20 years you've left a lot of money on the table and it's just hilarious to me that the commanders at a point where a lot of people don't want anything to do with them over the last few years they went two hours without a name they were FedEx last year they didn't even start the season without a sponsor this year it took them a couple minutes to find one and they recognize the importance of it and the Nationals in a brand new ballpark starting in ' 08 who have won a World Series who were a Mainstay in the NL for years at no point have been able to strike a deal for naming rights pretty amazing there's this little thing that just little voice on my head that says if you think it's worth that no one's giving you that then it might not be worth that that's just a funny little thing that I think let's go around the NFL with some of the big news of the day cutdowns happening for every single roster we'll get you the latest from the commanders out of Ashburn over the last few minutes and some of the most prominent players now looking for work in the National Football League that is next on g& D here on the fan e e e e e e e e e e e a busy Tuesday on Grant and Danny on the fan we are live live on 1067 and on 1067 the fans YouTube page I'm rocking my brand new giveaway welcome to the show Dylan Cruz te with a caps hat today we're going all red that's a sharp look if I can add that I like that Capital what do you call that when the Hat has a string on top of the brim it's like a white rope yeah where the uh brim meets the top to yeah I don't know part Tall part I don't know I I don't know what that style is I'm not a fashion guy yeah I clearly am I had a phone call today with someone who's helping me with my fashion what yeah is that funny what wait wait what so for Monumental Sports you know that I do I Moonlight on television yes of course you're television I'll be doing some alt casts again for the capitals this hockey season and she reached out to me to just talk about my look is that right what I wanted to present and uh yeah what kind of things I was hoping to possibly wear she's like a wow a fashion expert who works in television who they have on staff dude yeah so she was asking me questions I didn't know what she meant by I mean your guys right here I can help you this is true but yeah there were lots of questions of which I had little answers she's like what's your style I said uh my style would be like black polo khaki shorts the was like whatever my wife picks out exactly she's like so when you go shopping where do you go I said I got to be very honest with you I haven't bought anything for myself on the fashion front in many many years did you tell her the Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday shirt idea yeah exactly I we didn't get to that but that that's if you know me well enough if I could just have T-shirts that set each day of the week and I just wore seven of them and then wash them and wore them again that would be my happy place got my uh comfortable blue speaking of khaki shorts on I got my my my dtl down thee line Fairfax uh t-shirt on the dtl on Fairfax that has to be a pickle ball it is a pickle ball thing yes I was worried Danny that you didn't have some type of pickle ball Garb on today I do I do believe me I do you didn't let me down uh We've also got a little bit of an announcement to make it involves the show fantasy football league if you want to be in the Grant and Dany Fantasy Football League this year you may want to listen to the Double Play coming up at 3:45 for some Deets on Grant and Danny today uh big news on the commanders front as far as who is no longer with the ball Club I would say notably Martavis Bryant at wide receiver KJ Henry at defensive end and then most recently we just found out that roster hopeful Bryson taine who had an outstanding training camp did some good things in the first two preseason games I thought he needed a big night and just didn't have it against the Patriots wasn't able to corow passes make plays got called for a penalty then he got banged up and was taken into the locker room with an injury in the final minutes of the game just didn't go the way he needed Cole Turner needed and those guys because of that could be on the outside looking in today yeah so this is a guy that started off a gang busters as you said in training camp and as the preseason wore on maybe kind I don't want to say fell out of favor but that momentum cooled a little bit I don't think he was fast enough um for for everything that they wanted to do you want a guy with size which he has but I don't know that he has some of the quicks and explosiveness that they kind of need for that spot which is interesting because they're no big receivers there just aren't any right their biggest guy that's still left as far as we know is is uh Byron Pringle the Giants speaking of receivers cut Allen Robinson now you only have to go back a few years to find alen Robinson being excellent that is not the case anymore no hasn't been he's bounced all over the place and just doesn't seem to be able to help anybody but he's available in terms of receivers with some pedigree who have some size also Isaiah Hodgins got cut by the Giants Isaiah Hodgins has the same thing that Daniel Jones has he's uh tested positive for which is he plays amazing football against Washington and not very well against anybody else but he's had some huge games over the years against the commanders hjin last year 20 catches for 230 yards but are you big do you play receiver are you 25 or under if the answer to all three of those things are yes I'm at least picking up the phone up of Adam Peters hin is 63 200 been in the division 25y old uh who turns 26 this football season was drafted back in 2020 yeah seven touchdowns over the last couple of Seasons as a part-timer is not crazy that's not that's not nothing nothing to sneeze at you know who else got cut today Kanas City Chiefs cut cadarius Tony yeah a couple people have already tweeted us at grh pson at funny Danny is that a name you guys are interested in I'm not because it to me it's very redundant to what they've got if you need small slot receiver Gadget guy yeah we we we got those I need something different but actually I got a surprising take on this darl strum roll on this please would I be interested in bringing kadary and you said no right and I think I have a surprising take cuz I'm normally one of the guys that shuts this kind of thing down mhm now I think I know where this is going but I'm not going to spoil it I think I know what's happening here absolutely not not even a little that's what I thought it was a rug pole do you catch the football when it's thrown to you he doesn't but but listen but wait are you small yeah I got enough of those guys oh I I got I'm doing the C Allen thing where you play some running back and receiver the idea of cadarius Tony greater than and cadarius Tony coaches love this idea of someone like this they they they can't stop drooling at the concept but the actual cadarius Tony shows up and then it's like oh the Patriots released kicker Chad Ryland he turp why does anyone draft kickers stop drafting kickers and especially in the middle of the the draft I don't care if you're bill bellich so everyone tells it you're smart K shanan in San Francisco with John Lynch did it last year stop drafting Pickers it's such a a bad idea they all stink when they get drafted why does anyone do that remember when the uh the Bucks drafted was that what was that guy's name auo in the second round Aguayo not as bad as as uh the Raiders drafted a kicker in the first round years before Sebastian janow well Sebastian Janikowski but Roberto Aguayo in round two was tough Roberto Aguayo from Florida State out a boy Danny here we go look ring that bell ring the Florida state Bell that's the seminal Bell Yep they're still the seminal well now they're only one the one seminal they don't do the tomahawk chant anymore right no they do very much oh interesting that's realting that's real interesting we're granting Danny on the fan Austin Eckler joins the show next live on g& D e e e e e e e e e e e e e e the exclusive sponsor of our show is the law firm condori and Moran they're going to guide you and your family in the right direction by helping you to draft a will set up a trust or create a healthcare power of attorney schedule a free consultation with our estate planning Attorneys at km lawyers.com be sure to tell them Grant and Danny sent you so that you can get a discount that's km lawyers.com in one hour we're giving away tickets to Kevin Hart when he comes to DC in September he's going to be at DAR Constitution Hall at 5: you'll hear from Dan Quinn as he addresses the media on cutdown day Washington four minutes 53 man roster like the rest of the teams in the NFL are ahead of their 4M deadline but right now let's go to the betql guest hotline bet smarter to beat the books download the betql app and visit bet ql.com we are joined by Austin Eckler running back with the commanders who is lucky enough at this point in his career to not have to worry about staring at his phone all day long but Austin I am curious as a veteran with pelts on the wall you know what today is like for you and just your perspective on so many of your teammates who have been working their butts off who are having their dreams U set to the side here potentially on on speed bumps but it's a tough day around the league yeah it's it's a it's a big day for multiple reasons um and I remember and what was it now eight years ago eight years ago around this time I had uh I actually got a call but it was from our player director telling me that I need to go find an apartment and um that was a really special moment I immediately called my mom right after I remember she was crying I was crying uh because you know some of the work that we've been putting in had finally come to fruition and we're looking forward to finally getting on um getting on the NFL team uh but obviously the flip side of that as well where a lot of guys have been putting in you know that work as well and it doesn't it doesn't come yet their time isn't now and it doesn't mean their time's never going to come but it just might not be in that certain team or that certain moment and so it's a time where look there's there's a lot of great stuff happening but also um a lot of movement obviously in the other direction as well Austin can you go into what maybe you you said to a teammate or two because I think that's very Sage advice right it's easy to think about the here and now and get bad news and be very focused on that but that big picture thing is probably really hard a after the work you've just now kind of put in did you talk to any of the young guys who who who might be facing this today and and maybe share some of that yeah you know actually yesterday or two days ago before our game um we're just telling these young guys just you know make sure that whatever you do after this game you feel like there's nothing else you could have done you feel like you've exhausted every ounce of energy that you could absolutely exhaust and no matter what if you do that guess what you'll be able to live live with yourself and know that you put everything on the line and it wasn't something that you didn't do that caused you to fail it was you did everything and I told him like look I'm proud of you guys for the work you've been putting in and there's I didn't tell them this but in my mind there's no telling how it's going to turn out you know um so I just try to keep it as positive as I can and pushing those guys to to make sure that they understand that this is an important moment and then also that leave it all out there on the line Austin Eckler on Granton Danny here on the fan in year one in DC join the command ERS in part because you'd worked with Anthony Lynn in the past so you kind of knew what to expect I'd imagine in the meeting room and on the practice field from this staff but what are your early returns and thoughts on this group after now navigating a training camp in your first preseason with them yeah I definitely knew what to expect from Anthony Lynn and he has um been living up to that as well funny story actually my rookie year he was my head coach and he's a big running back guy like that's where a lot of his knowledge is he came sprinting AC AC cross the field because my track on a trap play was off by about a half yard and so that is how detailed this man is when it comes to the running back position so uh for me as a competitor I couldn't wait to get in that room because I love to be coached I wanted I want to make sure my details are on point I want to be held accountable so that has been you know our room's Dynamic but then also getting to know Dan Quinn and I've been saying this but if I were ever to be a head coach I would want to be like Dan Quinn uh like he he understands that coach processes coaching Brotherhood coaching you know how to hold the standard what the standard is is the way that you get the results that you want if you coach results hey we got to go win a Super Bowl we gotta win games there's no substance to that that doesn't mean anything but if we're talking about how we should interact with each other how we should practice together what what what's an example of hey this was a bad rep by you pull it up this is a good rep by you pull it up those are the things that create processes and a Brotherhood within our culture that allows us to play and keep ourselves held to a standard where we can play at a high level and then you know the results will hopefully come from what we want so I really appreciate Dan Quin and what he's about Austin Eckler with us here on Grant and Danny and Austin you mentioned you've been around for a minute played for a few different head coaches now how did this kind of Camp preseason sort of compare and contrast uh to ones you've gone through previously wow I mean this sounds this gonna sound like it's a big Dan Quinn hype session but um this man really understands the power of keeping the body healthy and making sure that recovery is integrated into the not just what we have going on but integrated into the schedule we have mandatory hour recovery sessions within the schedule um I know in the past it's really been like hey get your recovery during lunch and stuff like that and you have like a longer lunch but we bring in specific people you have people doing massages dry needling every day during training camp and so that was something that was really new to me and uh kind of showed me where Dan's mind is at when it comes to taking care of his team and understanding that a healthy team is a very effective and dangerous team on on game day so it has been an amazing Camp um and I have been so blessed to be out here and uh looking forward to getting into regular season Austin Eckler one of the veterans with the commanders one of their leaders who's been setting the tone this summer out in Ashburn of course led the NFL and touchdowns over a couple of year Span in 21 and 22 with the Chargers and we're thrilled to have them now in the nation's capital here on Grant and Danny with us on the fan today U specific to the Jaden Daniels hype going into training camp and really not knowing what to expect you've been around some young QBs you you kind of went through this with Justin Herbert like do you go about that now differently having lived that experience once where you go up you introduce yourself and and you know try to answer as many questions as possible or do you let a young kid come to you and what has that been like and kind of feeling Daniels out in that way yeah I think as the veteran and being around a lot of younger guys you realize that coming into the NFL is actually really intimidating for a lot of people for different reasons uh one of them being like hey you've been watching these guys or playing with them on Madden or seeing you know looking up to some of these guys and now you're in the same room with them so as an older person in the locker room not saying they all looked up to me but just that's kind of the sense like man these guys been in the in the league for a long time they've earned their respect so you kind of feel like okay like I still have to get my stripes and I have to earn my respect out there and so as an older player I definitely have been the one that you know I'm GNA approach you I'm GNA introduce myself to you I'm gonna ask you questions I'm gon to come up to you after practice uh because that's that's the position I'm in and I know it was the opposite when I had Philip Rivers uh when he was a veteran he would do that same stuff um for us and he would come up to us or want to get routes after practice to get on the same page and uh now it's kind of the roles flipped now that I'm you know going into year eight Jaden's coming into year one and he'll get there as well he's got a great mentor and Marcus Mariota and that room that's really been doing a good job I'm super proud of him too how he's been you know showing the the ways of what a veteran quarterback does you know during the off season you know in season you know leading the just the offense the Cadence all this stuff so uh Jaden's in good hands and I'm looking forward to seeing him Excel as well Austin Eckler on Grant and Danny here on the fan how do you feel about now the structure it seems like we're eventually going to 18 games and then two preseason games but right now you got the three exhibition games most teams choose two to to let guys like you play in and then sit you for the third which you guys did games one and two on the field as a group of starters and how does the joint practice fit into this now do you feel like you get more out of those like could you get ready for a season as a running back not taking on a whole lot of contact or being tackled without playing in the preseason are you at a position where you kind of need that at this point well first off I just want to say we the PA have not agreed to anything so this 18 game rumor stuff is a bunch of BS let's just get that out of the way you know I think this is a tactic in my opinion by uh the NFL side trying to push this Narrative of that's where we're going so that players start thinking about it but um no we look we're we're smarter than that like we know exactly what's going on and we're definitely aware of what's going on with them you know potentially leaking 18 games right potentially right um so here's the thing for us hang on before before you move on to other part of the question I actually want to follow up on that so do you not think it's it's headed in that direction I mean obviously there's going to be a there's gonna you guys are going to have to agree but you you wouldn't bet on that at this point it just seems obvious that they're gonna keep it's what they want no yeah I mean truth the the ownership these guys want 20 games they want 30 games they want they want as many games as they can get if they get 50 out of us they get 50 out of us and so what do we have to do we got to make sure that we put ourselves in a position where we can protect ourselves as players right and we can actually make sure that if we are going to give up um some of our time and work more then there's got to be the proper compensation and the proper things that we feel is worth that extra gain and so on and so forth so that's where I am yes obviously they want more but is it going to be worth it to us to give them more I think that's well said and then specific to the the kind of the ju deposition now of joint practice vers preseason game the The Narrative has become and I think coaches have pushed this a little bit tooo I don't know what your perspective is like the joint practices are as helpful Andor maybe better than the preseason the way it was explained to me by a lot of coaches over the years is they can kind of dictate situations practice more things that they want to get looks at guys because you can't really do that in a game you may not get a goal line or short yardage or something like that how do you feel as a player in that regard uh look for the last four years I haven't actually played in a preseason game um and that includes the years that I led the league and you know touchdowns and had 1,600 allpurpose yards those those years so we did have joint practices during those those times so that definitely gave us that was like our game reps like hey it still wasn't live but it's as close to live as you're going to get um you're going against someone in some other color just not going to the ground um or cutting or anything like that so there's definitely a lot of value in those joint practices which is why we do them and there's not a ton of reps to go around when you have a 90 man roster to get a good evaluation on people so you want to make sure you're maximizing the opportunities that you have so I don't mind the preseason games I think they're actually super beneficial for multiple reasons get the stadiums ready get coaches ready especially new coaches no Co new coaches coming in so they know their process and all of that so there's value in all of it and uh it just depends on how we want to balance it you know obviously we used to have four now I'm thinking about four is like dang if we had a whole another week of PR that would be wild um so I could definitely see it going down to two at some point um but not in exchange for another game I don't know that's that's a whole different ation Austin Eckler with us here on g& D all right Austin give me a second all right while you mentioned this while you were out just La minding your business putting up 1600 total yards and and 20 touchdowns pretty much I have long been a huge fan of yours and what I've done is I've begged for an Austin Eckler type running back here in town and we got the best version of that and turns out it's actually Austin Eckler years past what would happen is a guy with your skill set that's so good out of the backfield great in pass Pro that can do all these things it's okay it's third and long let's shot that guy out there I have been screaming at nobody because I'm just a pudgy idiot but I'm screaming at nobody I need my super effective playmaker not just to be third down uh uh reserved are we getting early down Austin Eckler and who do I have to talk to oh I mean well I mean if you look at my past you know my past history I've always I mean these past four years anyway I've been on the field pretty much the entire time unless I take a drive off so that that was the dynamic in the past obviously it's a new Dynamic now coming in with you know Brian Robinson in the room as well and um he's a different type of back than I am with different types of bodies but he's shown he can carry the load all three Downs so have I and so for me it's and what's really great is I'm with Cliff kingsberry um who in my opinion is putting us in perfect position so that we can actually maximize our talent and so I'm G to be on the field all over the place and um I don't think you'll have to worry about me being on on the field when it's you know it's a crunch third down things like that because Cliff's been doing a good job making sure that hey we're putting our Playmakers on the field so they can make plays and put them in positions where they're best that so you know the plays will come my friend the plays will absolutely come thank you it makes me feel better we're getting lots of tweets Austin and also comments from our YouTube chat with people with questions for you just want to bang through a couple of these real quick on Grant and Danny a lot of people are asking you about fantasy you're kind of the player synonymous with being okay with the idea that fantasy football exists and it doesn't seem to bother you I don't want to say it's a part of the industry that you enjoy but I'm seeing a lot of people here asking you questions about fantasy how did that come about I mean did you just always play Fantasy Football and like most players where you kind of drop it when you start playing you continue to no so my love of fantasy came from what it does for the sport um actually most of my fans I would say have come because of fantasy really and the power of having you on someone's team um that they don't even know they might not even know that I was on the Chargers but they're like oh we love this Austin neckar guy who is he like they know my name because I was on their fantasy team and now they're watching the Chargers or watching me because I'm on their fantasy football team so the fact that it's bringing new communities into the ecosystem of players um that are on different teams is what I love about it I love how it brings people together I'm a community Builder that's what I do in my foundation and my businesses I build communities and uh that's one of the main reasons I love fantasy and so it's introduced me to a lot of new people you know I I do play I have you know um a charity League that I'm a part of as well so I'm definitely in there and I'm definitely rooting for guys on other teams you know unless we're playing them um and so it's a good time it's good time that's cool so I have two mini fantasy questions then the first would be when you're in a league do you have like is there a rule that you get yourself like what if someone drafts you and then secondly give us a sleeper commanders player on offense who we should be consider considering in fantasy that might not be obvious oo interesting um well I can't give too much away on The Insider stuff because it's we haven't got to week one yet so I want to get to week one before I start leaking stuff and get myself in trouble okay so I'm not gonna be doing that but um as far as me getting myself I always am trying to get myself and it's actually easy right now because you know people think I'm just you know in the trash can apparently from last year but ADP over 100 Austin I think it's great value yeah so look I'm getting so there you go if you need a sleeper you know people thought oh you know Austin played on one and a half ankles last year and he wasn't very good he only got you know like eight touchdowns in a thousand yards he's washed up you know it's like y'all need to chill out man like I was going through some our team was you know going through some stuff had some injuries lingering around and now I'm back and healthy so um I'm getting myself all over the place yeah but I'm always trying to get myself we want to ask you about experience um an app that you've got it's a fan engagement platform you mentioned you were working on when we had Jan several months ago and I think you made a lot of progress on it now 85 active NFL players are going to participate tell us about it yeah we have uh 94 uh professional football players on there right now and actually just brought on our first school but what's really cool we just launched a new uh interaction called fan mail which allows you to send in an item to get signed by that player that's offering it and so right now you can only get it from any of the Washington players um um and so that's the biggest announcement that we've had lately so if you want to get your Austin ecka jersey signed or a card signed by me or Jonathan Allen or Marcus Mariota Luke mcaffrey all these other guys that are on there you can go and check it out and it's it's actually called experience but spelled e k s p r i n c so X like my last name experience so really excited about it and loving loving what we've been doing so far and the engagements have been great with the fans in the area it's really a methodology for us to open ourselves up and give you more of a fan experience than just being in the stands last one for me Austin uh as you guys get ready to you know to as this roster gets finalized you can start playing games here next weekend what's the biggest key for you guys to get off to a fat start fast start do you think but also a fat start a fat start you want to go to a fat start he want you guys to be lethargic and and not skinny yeah go to eat fast food oh I love it I love it you know for us man we have a lot of U moving parts and new players on this team and players that have had ton of success in the past as well and when you bring a lot of people together it comes down to how well you jilled which comes down to one thing the details like how detailed can we be in the fundamentals and getting lined up and operating because if we do that we're going to be a pretty good offense G be hard to stop us uh but if if we're a little you know lack of days ofo in the communication it's not where it needs to be you know it's going to be tough for us um so that's the NFL but especially when you have new teams new coaches rookie quarterback it's especially um important and so what do you think I'm going to be you know preaching the next couple weeks is detail detail detail detail until I'm blew in the face because that's what it's got to be and that's what's gonna help us win Games Austin you you got married this offseason obviously right in time to get back to work I don't know if you've even had time you and and Melanie uh to kind of experience what there is to offer in DC yet or find restaurants you like has it been all work and and things will slow down a little bit in season in terms of some nights off or have you even seen the new community so my wife would tell me that and tell you guys that I am a workaholic and I am always trying to build like I am a builder at heart I'm an entrepreneur and uh football happens to be you know the thing you guys know me for but as you see even with experience I'm out building apps I'm building foundations we're building you know communities online and so that's what I do for my my fun free time but um yeah every once in a while make sure we get out to the date night and we'll check out DC so we've been out out around the town a little bit meeting some new people I'm a big networker so there's fun in the things that we like to do but it also sometimes looks looks like work to other people so that's what we do I like love it you're always making moves Austin we appreciate it we'll be pulling for you to get off to the quick start this year and you heard it from Austin Eckler don't sleep grab him in those fantasy drafts thanks man good luck to you buddy appreciate it guys thanks all right you got it there's Austin Eckler on Grant and Danny here on the fan uh he's always got something going on just just one of those little bit too perfect you know I mean you just can't believe it's like in my spare time I start companies right in my spare time I start foundations like and me too as I sit down to play video games incredible like watch a show just better than me Josh Harris spoke to the media over the weekend what was the biggest news item that came out of that Q&A what was the biggest development of all of the answers he provided I want to get into that next we'll also get you the latest on cutdown day another name trickling out having been released by Washington will tell you who next on the fan e e e e e e e e e e e e e it's cut down day around the NFL the commanders and 31 other teams are whittling rosters upwards of 90 players down to 53 I'll tell you what I miss being on the beat quite a bit fairly frequently there were a lot of things I liked about covering the team just being on the inside information getting to know coaches and learning ball from different perspectives having relationships at the building very very cool experience that I got to have for a while this was the worst act this is a tough one yeah when you're on the beat I don't envy guys like Ben standig or or reporters like Nicki jaalo who look like they're grinding and working their way through cutdown day but you're texting players or their agents or know folks with the team and sometimes asking people directly hey did the worst thing that could have possibly happened to you happened today were your professional dreams crushed today text me back you know someone can make light of um you know that it's a business or they could say well they shouldn't be doing that and you're wrong that's the job and people want the information and you're you're trying to cover the football team that I mean you're doing what you're supposed to do but man that that is on a human level that's tough today was the worst it it was just at the end of the day like I've never been a guy that's like oh I need a beer you know what I'm saying but like you just you need to I I needed to go to a movie like I needed to unplug and just for a couple hours not think about anything and just go kind of chill out in the dark and have no one talk to me with a movie playing but uh thinking about the players their families that that are getting the bad news today hopefully many of them do come back on the practice squad but with that out of the way some of the latest cuts by the commanders that are interesting and names that you got to know and maybe got enamored with like I did during the preseason Danny wide receiver Bryson train I like him I think he is a big tall 64 wide receiver who can help down the field he made one catch after another in training camp just vertically over people contested has decent speed he kind of I talked to him at camp and he basically said since I was at Stanford I think I've been able to run by people because they look at me with my size and they're like oh this guy's not going to be able to outrun me and then he gets behind everyone and makes a big catch and he did it all Camp long preseason just didn't quite go well enough another guy I really really liked was Michael Wy and I'm quite sure he'll stay in the building the Arizona running back who was undrafted out of the Pack 12 uh he got released today as well I guess there's a question as to whether or not they keep three running backs I'd imagine they'll keep Jeremy McNichols but if you kept two and Cass Allen was still around yeah then it's sort of you know he's half a running back half a wide out a little bit of everything you could also only keep two running backs now because even though you wouldn't go into a game on on Sunday in week one that way maybe it gives you a chance to keep a safety you don't want to cut and have on the waiver wire and then you'll sort out running back when someone else gets released or maybe in the next 3 days or something like remember that too the the roster they formed today can be as much strategic as anything it it doesn't mean it's what it's going to look like in week one in fact it's almost certainly not going to look that way yeah this is the initial 53 not the final 53 there is such a thing obviously his rosters you form and injuries happen and changes happen and releases happen and everything else but yeah your your initial homework or your first quiz whatever you want to call it is due this afternoon and there'll be changes after that right as as waivers and other things and you may as you said you may not want to expose a guy to wavers right away knowing that you know he might get snatched up and maybe you want to stash him or or something that affected maybe you can do some machinations therein last year's sixth round pick Chris Rodriguez running back at of Kentucky has been waved by the commanders so to is fifth round pick at a Clemson KJ Henry according to multiple reports he got bad news today which is good news for Jamon Davis and it would stand to reason that if KJ Henry who a lot of people had as their fourth defensive end didn't make the team then all systems are go for Jamon Davis who will not only make it as an end but who knows with the injury to Jordan McGee could end up being depth at linebacker still as well indeed yeah that the dreaded position Flex from the IR Rivera era would certainly apply to jam Davis as he learns a new spot you can plug him in as needed on the rare occasion they're in a three linebacker set no surprise that Sam Hartman got waved as good-looking as he is and as productive at times as he was in game first preseason game he got to play and he looked pretty good that was the fourth quarterback at Camp you know Murley is really the fifth guy so practice squad would be an option I would imagine if they want to keep a project and Hartman around because if they were going to keep three QBs it was going to be the veterans probably you could have gone with a kid in Hartman over Driscoll but Driscoll showed enough I think they have a type pretty obviously look look at the quarterbacks right now in the building it's Jaden Daniels who can run Jeff riscal who can run Marcus Mariota who can run and Trace Murley who can Rune the only guy that isn't that is Sam Hartman Mitch Tinsley helped himself in the final preseason game I thought he got cut today despite having been heavily featured and speaking of wide receivers on the outs Martavis Bryant a lot of question as to whether or not the big 6'4 inch wide receiver one time stand out with the Steelers could force his way onto the roster that did not happen he will not be part of the initial 53 so as you're looking at this there they you know on on its surface barring another move that we don't know about AKA bringing in somebody in that's outside the organization you would think it's good news for a couple guys guys like Jameson Crowder it's good news for uh good news for Byron Pringle for example just think of the receiver spot you already mentioned Jam Davis so on its surface those guys you know the longer their names aren't called the better it is for them I wanted to get to Josh Harris's press conference from Sunday quickly uh we talked quite a bit about this yesterday but one thing we didn't get to was what was the biggest development do you think out of everything that he addressed because that was as candid and just legitimate a Q&A with an owner as we've had in this market in decades quite literally and for 23 minutes he sat there and he took questions from all comers and he answered them and I thought he actually gave real context and perspective on some of the things they're doing and why they're doing them and so with that in mind I thought we could go through just some of the cliff notes of his press conference and I want to know what the lead would be if you're writing a story about it uh here are some of the rapid fire like big moments uhuh new stadium in 2030 is the realistic date he says he's still talking to all three jurisdictions nothing's been decided it did sound like DC was the priority I'm paraphrasing that was certainly what most of the questions were about he is himself leading the search for the next team president it's one of his top priorities right now he can't go back to Redskins and they won't go back to Redskins as a name for obvious reason he said but he did not commit to commanders longterm and they are looking into the popularity of the name and they're doing their own research right now the NFL draft is coming to DC at some point probably a few years down the road he admitted that he focuses heavily on the commanders and the 76ers and is way less involved when it comes to the devils and his other sports ownership including soccer he said that he expects the team to be better in a win loss record than last year but he did admit that this is really for him about the long-term focus and that I'm now again paraphrasing wins and losses this year are not nearly as important to him as kind of building the foundation with this group long term also acknowledge season tickets are up big 30% year-over-year from last year and that they want to bridge the gap and make sure the old fans are happy it's why they're bringing back gold pants he also said he wanted to get rid of the sea Taylor installation last one because Taylor deserves an a A+ tribute and that it's important to both their relationship with players past and current and just the fan base that it means so much to to do that in a better way so of all that stuff what was your lead from Harris I think it was all sort of name related to me with honorable mention to as you said the Shawn Taylor um installation being removed and then you know trying to do better than that the 2030 date uh Etc it's that we're not ignoring this right because in the past what they've what he said what members of the ownership group have said is it's not our priority right now and they sort of dismissed it it implied then that it's your priority at some point it implied then that you're thinking about it but he he said he revealed uh to your to your question we are doing research about it I am aware of it and in in effect again I'm not uh I I or what I am doing is paraphrasing I'm a I I care about the old one I know the old one's not coming back that's not possible but I care about TR the tradition I care about uh you know the the fans that have been here for a long time we're aware that the current name hasn't stuck isn't sticking maybe that changes with a bunch of winning football but I care about the tradition here's your plating here's your small Pat here's your Olive Branch in the gold pants we know that doesn't cover all of it but we're thinking about that that to me was as clear a sign as any is if they're not winning within the next couple of years which is entirely possible it's really hard to win in this league that might be very much on the table to say you know what we can address this now totally agree with that the only thing I would say is there's still a reading between the lines and kind of a seeing whatever ever we want to see there if it's your opinion that they shouldn't change the name and they won't I think you could probably read through what he said and talk yourself into there's a path to it not changing most of us don't see it that way we're looking through different glasses and I think it's very easy to see something will come down the pike it's just not happening right now but because there's really no shaping his answer on your own there's no guesswork to 2030 is when the stadium is going to open at the earliest and that's his words out of his mouth now that's reasonable to hope for a stadium in 2030 six years away years I thought that was maybe the biggest thing that came up and that he corroborated or confirmed the newsest thing might be that I now fully expect a draft in Washington DC to be held on the mall in the next five years or so and maybe it's closer to three four five years away than a couple but I now absolutely think that that is in the works that they have a lot to iron out with the Park service but it sounds like that's something he and his group are going to work really high hard on and they obviously think it it could be happening all right next on Grant and Danny Juan stto back to DC question mark that's what they were saying in the newspaper right Juan stto Washington DC 2.0 let's get into that and our double play involves news on our grant and Dany fantasy football listener league so if you want to get in you better be listening by the way we got tickets to see Kevin Hart in 20 minutes right here on Grant and Danny e e e e e e e e e e e e double play coming up on g& D in just a couple of moments welcome back we're Grant and Danny and this is the fan I'm sure you saw Barry's fuga piece in the Washington Post yesterday about Juan stto and the Nationals written of course the timel was that stto was back at the yard he was taking on the Nats with the Yankees a very rare 0 for four yesterday for Juan stto but a lovely Ovation he got the biggest Ovation of the night yeah sorry about your luck Dylan Cruz we're giving out Cruz t-shirts at Nats Park but it was SoDo who was taking off his helmet and doing a little Curtain Call moment uh before he got into the batter box he drilled a couple ball the ball by the way was not traveling to left Center or Center last night there were a couple bolts that stayed in the yard Soto hit a couple of them well partially because 10 foot tall Aaron judge caught them at the fence with his glove over the wall well that did happen ball was flying just fine to right though as we saw later on in the game but yeah the things couple bows went to die and left ET Etc but yeah I thought that was that that first inning was really cool like that that to me is the is was the whole deal it was like this this ceremony right where the Symmetry between stto hitting second for New York and Cruz hitting second for Washington old era New Era The Ovations there in that was cool just really neat Davey knew the assignment Abrams Cruz wood one two three in the lineup awesome well done Davey so that was very very cool I bring this up though because Juan sto's returned to DC he' been back with the Padres but first time long time now with the Yankees it was a very very cool pregame scene he was the first guy out on the field at about 305 while we were doing our show live from either team and he came over and kind of parked in front of the gats Dugout in the coach's box first base foul territory and just waited like with a receiving line basically one after another of people parade style coming up to Ju and he was talking to staffers and training people and you know former players and coaches and anyone and everyone who was still with the organization big smiles and hugs and I posted a video if you guys haven't seen you should go check it out grh Paulson on Twitter I think you have a picture of this maybe even as well but it was Mark learner Y and Juan stto embracing and I thought it was hysterical that Learner in front of the media and everyone just walked right up and just strut it right up there big hug that's one of those I got a lot of money and I don't care what you think kind of things but here's why it's funny to me I understand they have a relationship they have a rapport whatever but there's so much noise being made about Soo becoming a free agent and would the Learners possibly pay him and could they bring him back to DC and so I'm thinking when Mark was out there I'm like there's no chance we'll get an interaction here and as soon as Juan sto was done talking to someone at one point learner starts yelling stto one one and he starts walking over to them and they meet and they get this big hug and a nice little conversation for a minute or so just just in front of everyone it it was incredible and the jokes wrote themselves is I think I tweeted something like clearly reminiscing about 2019 and everyone's like talk to him about coming back which is obviously not legal yeah you're not allowed to do as an owner when he's under contract with the Yankees but it's also not happening yeah they W they also weren like negotiating right there Mark's like 500 and one's like nope 600 okay I'll see you there the next step in the Nationals rebuild bring back Juan stto that was the headline of the berries for luga column the post yesterday Dylan Cruz made his debut against Juan stto on Monday night in 2025 they should be teammates that was Barry's piece and while I'd love to see it and I Echo the sentiments and it's a really brilliant idea I give it 0.001% chance of happening the this ownership group over the last few years has not even shown a willingness to sign a veteran starting pitcher for $10 million a year and I'm supposed to assume they're going to go pay a half billion dollars to break every record for a non pitcher hitter in free agency on Juan stto I just can't see it I'm sorry you know all the stories that we hear about like counting cups and getting the napkins that are the least expensive and all the little things that are happening at that ballpark I do not think they'll be a player with the Yankees and the Mets for stto I'm sorry I just don't see it I I don't see it either and you know there's also a legitimate reason one could make or an argument one could make to not do that where where you have that much salary allocated to one person would you be better serve spunking around between five or six seven other people for a team building perspective but the real argument against it or not not in terms of Desiring it but basically saying why it's not gonna happen is what you just said there has been no propensity to open that checkbook and at any at any point here in the recent past maybe that's different now that you've got a younger team that's on the verge of competing but it wouldn't be to the tune of $600 million I think that's the Hope or the thought is that they're going to spend this off season for the first time in a long time really since the World Series and I do think they'll spend a good bit like they got more money coming off the books this year cor coming off the books strawberg uh is now at least a known commodity that he's not taking up a 40 Man spot you can pay that off if you need to but yeah the Corbin contract specifically it's going to be the lowest payroll they've had really at any point since they took over they could go get a bat like Anthony Santander and right they could get a bat like Christian Walker at first base and go get a pitcher if they want in the middle of the rotation I just don't think it's going to be a sto type move no that type of contract it is time for our double play driven to you by your local 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they got the same discount you will grant and Danny discount km lawyers.com we told you the Beltway Blitz was going to be juicy today we are covering the Nationals the NFL the commanders it's cut down day we'll get some more names trickling out here at the wire as the deadline just hit to form your 53 man roster in DC so we'll cover that with cakes coming up in just a few minutes on the commanders but let's start our Beltway Blitz the NS last night with the Yankees in town debuted Dylan Cruz he took an 0 for three did draw a walk Charlie slows was on the call Charlie what you make of Cruz's first ever game I thought he was very poised he looked very comfortable he looked like he'd done it before uh the bat where he walked he he looked some close pitches over he didn't really Chase anything out of the strike zone and uh you know it was kind of a routine night for him like he'd done it before batting second in the order last night Davy's dropping him down today to the number seven spot um maybe take a little pressure off if there's any against the the right-hander he's facing tonight but you know I I you know all in all you know he he talked about it being a great day the only thing he wished that would have happened is they won the game Charlie you you've been there for these Milestone games whether it was straber getting called up or uh you know playoff games there at Nats Park World Series Games Etc last night didn't feel like the 132nd game of the season right it was more special than that both with stto in town uh and you know a bunch of these young gats sort of the new era ushering that in hitting at the top of the order what did last night mean oh it's definitely you're you're moving forward in this rebuild with the the future nucleus of this team starting to take shape the players that you hope are going to be part of this team for the next decade and you know as Ryan Zimmerman has said to us when he was on with us last night that the group that's going to make the next run of contention for a long time so I I think we're really just scratching the surface here so far and and you know more to come I think you know the the fact the Nationals have used only nine starting pitchers this year despite the injuries they've had with Kate cavali not making it back Trevor Williams getting hurt Joe sagr getting hurt but then the guys that they brought in have been in the rotation all year and so I think that's a big step forward for the future maybe the most positive thing you take out of this season from the Nationals is how far along the starting pitching is Charlie what did you make of the response to Juan stto returning to Nats Park he got the largest Ovation of the night in the first inning yeah there's no question actually people from New York who cover the Yankees say well it's different when you return to your home stadium your home your original Club home stadium when you're in a Yankee uniform you'll get booed and I said there is absolutely no chance in a million that Juan SoDo would ever get booed in this park no matter what he had done after he left the Nationals and that was proven to be true I mean he it's he is who he is uh great player uh one of the biggest moments in franchise history is hit off Josh haer three-run score and they win the wild card game and the big moments he had in the runs he hit in the World Series uh he'll always be loved here as the case with most everybody who was a part of that world championship they can never do wrong here no way uh lost in all that you know sort of under the headline is Mitchell Parker's final line didn't look that unbelievable to me Charlie but I was encouraged by what I saw last night after a couple rough outings what did you see from him well I thought he pitched well I mean the second Innings jumped his pitch count up and you know the that's had a couple of miscues in the inning one for him when he dropped the ball covering first but he got out of that Bases Loaded Jam you know he he didn't really seem to be much affected after giving up the the home run to start the game to glav vories on a 3-1 pitch and you know it's a really tough lineup to get through to navigate through and I thought he you know did a good job you know they're watching his pitch count at this point of the year so he's over 80 in four Innings and they decided to go to the bull fend but you know he certainly gave you a respectable performance and he's done that a lot this year so again he's one of the guys that you look at and you could say yeah he can be right in your rotation next year if that's what you want to do Charlie I haven't seen the lineup against gar Cole is it the same as it was yesterday for Davey with Abrams Cruz and wood one two three and then also what can you tell us about tonight well you you G have Abrams and wood at the top of the order he dropped Cruz down to seventh I haven't talked to Davy about that yet um but that's what he decided to do to get some left-hand hitters up against uh that tough right-hander at the at the start of the lineup so we we'll see how that plays out but you're going to get wood more at bats I know Grant that's you want to see wood bat as high in the order as poss more bats y you know we'll see if this is you know just for today that Cruz is batting seventh and in a lineup that uh that Dave's going with or whether there's something he'll stay with I still think Cruz is gonna end up at the top of the order maybe even a lead off fatter for a while you know and ultimately that could be Jacob young too maybe not this year uh but if you progress as a as a hitter with that speed you're going to want to get him up more and more so I I mean you're seeing the nucleus of what's to come now these these babes just have to play and you know uh learn and learn and learn and get that experience Charlie thank you as always man have a great call tonight all right guys talk to you soon sounds good buddy see you soon hit that NFL Sounder please our B Ben Brown joins us to go around the NFL on cutdown day a busy one Ben League wide big picture story anything jump B at you today with all these roster trainings uh I mean obviously there you you know some guys that we thought were going to pan out or do certain things at the NFL level very much you falling you know down on the ways side you know and did you know not really taking advantage of you know that new opportunity either so I think there's a lot of been you know a lot of moving Parts obviously some of the wide receiver moves um you know I think you know cadarius Tony uh you know some of the the Chiefs trimmings and those sorts of things Terrace Marshall getting dropped from the Panthers like there are guys that are going to be on the street that I think can run some NFL snaps it's just as like you know correct fit and really trying to figure things out in this next stop if it really didn't work out for some of them in the first couple of big names on the pup list to start the year for their respective teams Odell Beckham Jr is going to miss four games it looks like for the Dolphins and then TJ hackinson with the Vikings same situation any surprise on either of those two fronts no I I do think you know just the timing of hawkins's injury um you know that was one that um you know seemingly was going to get um you know pushed back at least you know the four weeks and then kind of figure out from there um Odell Beckham Jr I think in a lot of ways like just where he's been at um you know over the past couple Seasons I guess you know it does seem like a situation where I don't know if he's ever going to get back anywhere close to what teams are even expecting of him I think Nick chub for me I think you saw deontre Foreman get cut you know Nick chub gonna start on pup as well like drone Ford is kind of the one guy in that particular backfield and everyone else I would say is injured in a lot of ways so I think that's an interesting one to monitor I very much think they are a team that has to be in the veteran you know running back Market uh and I would be shocked if they enter this season kind of you know given like you know maybe they have one or two really healthy guys on the roster at the running back position right now Ben I feel like the 49ers are in this game a chicken both with auk and and Trent Williams and they're over the salary cap as of now by tens of millions of dollars this is kind of something I feel like nobody's talking about there's an assumption it's just going to get worked out because they're a Super Bowl Contender but is it what do we think yeah I mean that's that's the real difficulty and you know um and it very much seems like that's the reason why the 49ers are kind of in this you know win now mentality maybe they can kind of keep things um you know under under the lockdown you know for next season in 2025 but you know you're starting to talk about property either an extension or you know big big money contract but he's gonna be a free agent in 2020 strict 2026 unrestricted as well and you know how many years does Trent Williams actually have left in the tank I do think he is you know out of non- quarterbacks maybe the most important offensive player to a specific team scheme so I think really getting Trent Williams in the fold is absolutely critical to their long-term success and I do think if you hear of one of you know Brandon auk or Trent Williams actually missing games that's when things really are going to get worrisome for the the the 49ers but I think overall they do still seem like you know one or two injuries could really derail things and I think they are a lot more vulnerable than what like the Betty Market's kind of projecting for their outcome in 2024 Ben Benjamin Brown on the NFL the Grant and Danny Beltway Blitz here how about the NFC East top of the division Cowboys and Eagles seem to be the two teams everybody debates between did yesterday's CD lamb contract change how you feel about the pecking order at all um I don't know if it changes the pecking order I do think it at least makes me slightly more optimistic about the Cowboys not having this like really downside sort of you know the basement falling out sort of expectation on the 2024 season I do think in some ways that could happen but I think at least going into the season with one of CD lamb or Dak Prescott locked in long term answers at least some questions of where they're going to head uh you know in the next three to three to five years and I think overall that maybe seeks to a little positivity but I don't think it closes the gap on you know where they're at in relation to the Eagles and I still very much think you know the commanders um you know in particular have some exciting upside type cases where they could at least land you know in the thick of things come playoff time and I very much think that you know the CD lamb extension doesn't really change that Alchemy either so although the Cowboys might get a little bump on their downside expectation I still think they are a team that really needs Dak Prescott playing at an MVP type level to kind of win one or two of these playoff games that they've not gotten to so far in the past couple Seasons Ben thank you as always buddy talk soon thanks guys have a great show appreciate you pal hit that local 53 Sounder Daris my God that's Johnny kak Saville's music from the brand new radio program debuting here in mornings on 1067 the fan the sports junkies is the name of the program cakes joins us here on the old Beltway Blitz kaky cut down day any surprises any anybody you're standing on the table for to remain give me your thoughts uh I think KJ Henry kind of caught people by surprise uh people were kind of RA semi- raving about him in Camp I thought he would be one of the few Ron guys to actually make it through but I think the overarching trend is if you were picked by on the the new guys in charge are going to have the extra powerful microscope on you throughout so uh looking like jam Davis is gonna make it looking like Forbes are gonna make it but I wouldn't certainly have long Futures bets on either of those guys to remain past this season I think the jury is still out at to see how they perform uh Forbes clearly a disappointing rookie season Davis a guy who's a tweener they're just trying to figure out the role for him going forward so uh the big takeaways if you were drafted by Ron uh you got a Target on your back and you better you better overperform uh with Adam Peters in town now cakes I had talked myself into Martavis Bryant maybe being on my roster if I was the GM Grant Peters over here on my way home from the artist formerly known as FedEx field on Sunday night now Northwest Stadium cakes over there in Landover Maryland but were you surprised Mart Davis Bryant didn't make it not really really I mean the guy hasn't taken NFL meaningful snaps in what six seasons uh I like taking a flyer on a guy who's uh one of Danny's real weaknesses is uh over overhyping big tall strong uh athletic specimens wide out I know Danny that's his Kryptonite that is correct uh I kind of fall for those guys too especially when they're red zone targets and you know you don't have a bunch of big guys on the roster outside of Zack Herz that are catching passes for this team so I thought he might have had an outside shot but the fact that he's been you know let's be honest he's been on a football Odyssey not Odyssey the company that employs us Odyssey over is it audacious though or is it an we're on an odyssey but we're it's an audacious very confusing for everybody be honest especially when it's not a word so um KY help me through this lens I I can't stand when things don't make sense to me I never let it go I'm like I'm like a dog with the mailman's tuckus here I don't know what this local 53 led by Adam Peters is's very handsome has great hair and he's smarter than me I don't understand what they're doing at receiver I have basically said hey there's a giant five alarm fire here at this position that was with Jan doson now they're without Jan doson and there doesn't seem to be much urgency to provide Jaden Daniels with more weapons what am I not seeing and what don't I understand uh Danny I think you are as you like to to term it you standing squarely in the circle of correctness my friend uh all you want to do is surround your young signal caller your rookie signal caller with this much talent as possible I look and I know that that oldi zius is Feelgood story but Danny you and I we and Grant we all play the the fantasy footballs I mean the GU he's a 30 to 35 type of catch guy he's not not an impact player now can he have a bigger role in this offense with doson out sure are we gonna gamble on dami Brown I mean that's that always seems like a thin bet yeah I'm I'm I'm kind of with you Danny underwhelmed by the wide receiver room especially with dson on the move to Philadelphia speaking of Fantasy Cakes Mr aille give me one of your sleepers that you're liking in your drafts this year yes because the draft's tomorrow night and I need the Scouting Report Danny see Danny has been one over I know that years ago when he joined the homies league and I told him I said Danny this is a no waivers League are you cool with that and he was resistant at first but now he loves the free-for-all uh just Madness of the league but anyway sleeper this is a guy I off especially with the news that Nick chub is going to start the season on the pup list I love me some Jerome Ford like in the ninth or 10th round like especially if you load up on wide outs early in your draft Jerome Ford is going to be heavily involved we saw what he did last year when chub was sidelined I love him as like my rb2 or a sexy Flex pickup that's a that's a big old sleeper right there from your pal cakes what you don't realize you I me crossed away from your radar but you are in the presence of the grand champion of the homies League defending Champion I'm very aware uh my team was a borderline uh joggernauts Lebron James likes to call it until I ran into Danny's team and in the football final last year so yeah Danny I I TI my cap to you sir is that a money League it is it is uh so I I go I go by either your Royal Highness or your grace is fine uh his lordship would accept as well hey KY have you Che on Bish bucks here over the last few minutes sounds like Trace mly just got waved oh that is tragic News man I what the show is basically forced to root for tra one Trace Scrappy Trace mle couldn't be a nicer kid his family's very nice I've met the parents a couple times uh I hope that his performance with the the commanders against the Patriots maybe gets him a look on another team or he winds up the practice squad I root for the guy but let's be honest he's going to be probably second or third second or third quarterback throughout his career but look you can make a handsome living as a backup quarterback in the NFL uh just look at one Marcus Mariota amongst others super final thing you may or may not be aware with your boy old Fanny Muer I built a pickle ball court in my backyard ex official invitation to one Johnny kak off play some pickle on the sport court oh that is that is a look Danny must be a baller he's got a pickle ball court in his backyard this by the way it's not a uh what would you want to call it like it's not poorly put together yeah it ain't cheap Sport Court of Washington they did the work now I'll tell you KY We're not gonna eat and we're not going anywhere for a while but we did it we put it up and it was it was under the guys if it's for the children to play on it's not it's for me hey look if if you're gonna be house poor you might as well be house PO with a a ball or pickle ball court in your backyard my friend I'm going to look at my schedule and clear it and find find a date to come out and hit the old pickle balls with one uh his lordship homies League champion Danny ho I'm gonna wear my weighted vest and my sweatproof pickle ball glove that I picked uple hold on are you a ruck sack guy are you a weighted vest guy weighted vest guy waited now I'm a weighted best guy but only during walks with my dog I've I haven't done it yet on the pickle ball court that enhance your cardio flexie enhance your cardio with me in the backyard no one to watch us no one to spy on us no Paparazzi taking photos you know what Danny it's a date it's a c Danny steam sounds all right caky be good bro love you buddy all right boys homies League tomorrow night don't sleep Danny I got it that is your Beltway Blitz on g& D I want to hit two big NFL storylines the lamb contract in Dallas and how that alters the NFC East also the Patriots apparently still don't know who their starting quarterback is but you've heard bill bellich Dan orlovski and some others weigh in on this on national TV want to hop on that as well and we'll get you the latest from Ashburn cutdown day for the commanders where else would you rather be than right here with your boys Granton Danny e e e e e e e e e e e e e here's roster officially now in our hands welcome back to Grant and Danny on the fan so no more speculating no more guessing we now know who has made it initially and who is not for the commanders they issued a press release among the notables here in the final moments some of these names have trickled out but a couple of the names that I was getting a lot of questions about on Twitter grh Paulson Danny's at funny Danny we can run through these right now so the Final Cut list included Cass Allen the wide receiver running back who was an undrafted free agent last year also Cole Turner the tight end who was a fifth round pick by Ron Rivera and Company last season both of those names were among those that people were waiting to hear results on that means if you look at the initial 53 man roster for the commanders they will have two undrafted free agents making the team in tight end Coulson yankoff who made the roster and Tyler Owens the safety who played so well in camping in the preseason who wears number 40 he's very long he's a physical guy and he also was one of the stars as far as character name goes in the new movie Twisters he was played by Glenn pal if you feel it Chase it Tyler Owens making the roster so a couple of undrafted free agents now we will see as we get closer to week one how much the roster changes you know in short order moving ahead but we can go through the 53 man here in its entirety but any thoughts right off the bat from you yeah yankov making it is is surprising to me that they kept that fourth tight end at least at least initially instead of and that it wasn't go Turner and then it wasn't gold Turner yeah the you know they brought in yankov so that was sort of that was that if they're going to keep a forth it was going to be their guy if there was if there was a default but C Allen not making it surprises me I think they probably believe he can be a practice squad guy um owens's kind of forced the issue here his way onto the team I I know it's a I know it's a lot of safeties uh but some of these guys are going to be safeties and name only you know they'll walk into the box here and there or maybe sometimes you know a slot Corner a versatile uh type player but that secondary 11 defensive backs maybe one or two more than you're used to seeing but um I I think that's maybe where one of the strengths is a ton of DBS 11 all right let's go through it quarterbacks Jaden Daniels Marcus Mariota Jeff Driscoll all three are 6'4 not a whole lot to dig into there we kind of knew what was going to happen at the quarterback position running backs they did keep three with it being about as chalky as it could have been nothing fun or surprising you have Brian Robinson Austin Eckler who we had on the show one hour ago if you missed the interview with him in the three o'clock hour go grab the podcast when we're done tonight at the fand dc.com third running back in is Jeremy McNichols who they signed he has been around forever Boise State product eight years in the league Long Beach California Native 59 205 packs a punch he'll be the third running back for now they kept six wide receivers among them Terry McClaren Alam zakus dami Brown Luke mcaffrey and then the last two in we said there was a competition there veterans Jamon Crowder and Byron Pringle the biggest wide receiver on the team is the 6'2 in rookie mcaffrey who's not even listed at 200 lb the heaviest receiver on the team believe it or not is 210lb Terry McClaren there's just not a lot of size no not not a lot of beef at the receiver spot I mean they were giving guys looks they wanted some of that clearly but you know they didn't feel like Bryant was ready forward or taine uh was up to Snuff I still expect something to happen there um again I don't I don't I don't think a star's coming I don't think it's an iuk I don't think it's a uh you know T Higgins or any of the the headliners I do think maybe one more move happens here before Sunday offensive line the o line Danny is nine deep the alphabetical order or the way it's listed here I guess is numerical Michael deer Tyler botes Nick Alig Andrew Wy Trent Scott Brandon Coleman Chris Paul Sam cosmi and Cornelius Lucas so if there was a surprise or a last man in I would say probably Paul who can play both guard and Tackle he can play on both sides of the line clearly deer who can play center and some guard on the interior is going to be a valuable backup you know the starting group already led by Sam cosmi at Right Guard Al gred is going to be the new starting left guard botes is going to be the center and then ATT tackle they're hoping eventually Coleman is ready to take over into the season for um starting left tackle Cornelius Lucas but the swing tackle is Trent Scott I think there's still some TBD there like those are the nine guys they kept of of everyone that was at Camp I would not be surprised if they didn't rearrange some deck chairs at the back of the o line with some of the guys becoming available elsewhere you would think so any surprises in that group to you because none to me that's kind of what I had Scott was the only guy I was uncertain about just giving the health I guess Chris Paul maybe Mak it sure it's not like there was anybody they cut on the offensive line that I would have kept over him I just you know for him as a seventh round pick now to survive a regime change after he's basically been a bubble player for a couple of years I'd say he's a job well done AG yeah so his competition most most directly you would say just for a spot Braden Daniels Ricky Stromberg you know no one no one to write home about there so yeah both drafted higher than he was you know for the record uh defensive line they kept nine Jamon Davis listed as a d lineman on the edge with javante Jean Baptist Doris Armstrong uh Armstrong of course will be the the truest thing they have to a dend one so to speak they also have kelen frell and um Dante Fowler all on the defensive line so that's what the group is going to look like at defensive tackle federan mathys Johnny Newton and John Allen and Don Payne among the nine the only guy I didn't mention there was John Ridgeway so both ridway and matthys making the initial Rost surprising there right very surprising we all thought they'd keep eight they also were supposedly linked to other teams in trade conversations about John Ridgeway so this could just be a hey we're working some things out we're still working the phones I bet you both Ridgeway and matis are not on the roster when they play the bucks a week from Sunday I think that you keep them right now because they're among your 53 best players but that they're still ironing out that wrinkle yeah so I Echo that just when you hear that somebody's on the Block it just it means that you feel like they've got a glut there that's that's to me their one position of of strength not just strength and numbers where there's a bunch of guys that are fine thinking secondary safety most specifically but that's the one position group that I actually think is good talking about defensive tackle um with you know the two pro bowl Headliners guys that have not in the same year but obviously been to the Pro Bowl and then you know Ridgeway is a third and and new newly me to Johnny Newton hopefully who's healthy at some point here in the Nazi distant future plus former second rounder for Daren matthysse linebackers they kept five here's what's intriguing about that they list Dominique Hampton as a linebacker isn't that interesting Dominique Hampton who was drafted by this staff very obviously is a safety out of Washington now I think this could just be some window dressing like do you want to list 12 DBS and basically seven safeties probably not so it's positionist football it's 2024 it doesn't really matter if you're calling him a linebacker or safety he's playing around the Box probably got some linebacker responsibilities but this could just be some bookkeeping but at linebacker it's Frankie louu they also list Dante Fowler there who's really an end if we're being serious Edge what call it not an offthe ball guy necessarily um but he's listed there so uh louu Fowler uh Dominique Hampton Bobby Wagner and then the beneficiary of the Jordan McGee injury is Michael Walker who makes this team who's a 63 230 pound fifth year player at Fresno State who they added in free agency uh this off season I believe he came over from the Detroit Lions but five different players there uh make the roster at linebacker so looking at that group just again that there's not as me it's not the normal depth you're used to seeing at linebacker even when this group in the previous regime didn't really value linebacker you'd still see three four five you know six a backup for everybody here this is really three linebackers one glorified Edge rusher and a safety in that linebacker room just tells you how times have changed right where where the base package is no longer three the base package is two uh with an extra cornerback or extra safety or somebody that's kind of a tweener to match what offens are doing I want to get into the secondary which is where they had some of the biggest decisions they to make Walker by the way was the Steeler last year he the three-year Atlanta Falcon who played in Pittsburgh by the way and they brought over from the Steelers who made the roster so he makes it in the linebacking room then we'll get to the defensive backs I want to leave a little more time for this because I think this was where some of their biggest decisions got made and a lot of guys that we thought were on the bubble battling for jobs all kind of scratched and clawed their way in they kept 11 DBS so we'll get to that position group Next Specialists no surprises Kade York's going to kick trese will Punt and they signed Tyler a their Long Snapper the former Harvard star who's got experience with their special teams coach and coordinator Larry ISO so that there was no competition for him you knew he would be the Long Snapper but we'll get to the secondary next because there are still major questions at corner and there's clearly a ton of talent at safety remember a lot of people were upset that they didn't resign cam curl and yet maybe the deepest terms of quantity you know roster on the entire team I was WR about that already is safety uh even with him playing with the Rams in La under Shawn McVey we'll get to the secondary next the 53 man roster has been formed you'll hear from Dan Quinn on this show coming up early in the 5 o'l Hour this is the fan e e e e e e e e e e e Dan Quinn is addressing the Commander's first 53 man roster we'll have some of that for you coming up early in the 5:00 hour I say their first roster because that's what this is a lot of times we make so much out of who made it and who didn't and in 24 hours it could look different let alone in a week when they get ready to take on the Tampa B bucks but there's a full list of players released you want to check it out on my Twitter account gr H Paulson we just went through almost every position group as to who made the roster but we saved the defensive backs for last Danny because that was where there was great consternation and debate as to who was going to be in who was going to be out they ultimately kept 11 players and one of the things that you and I kept saying was is Derrik Forest really going to get cut it's got to be him or Jeremy Reeves probably well what if you just say yeah maybe it's a lot at one position but let's keep our best football players we'll figure the rest out later that's what they did so at corner Mike sanr stillo they just drafted in the second round Emanuel Forbes last year's first round pick was probably going to start Noah IG banagan who's gonna back up sandr still in the nickel at a great Camp Michael Davis who they brought in the former La charger as a veteran who plays outside on the boundary was graded as one of the most physical Corners in the League last year along with Benjamin stj who was also clearly captain on the roster those are the five traditional Corners that were retained then you've got what is basically six safeties and there's some guys who were versatile and multiple could do a couple things but Jeremy chin who's going to start at safety you've got Quan Martin who was drafted in the second round out of Illinois last year by the Rivera group Derek Forest out of Cincinnati now in year four made the roster the former All Pro special team Jeremy chin out of South Alabama still on the team uh Percy Butler who was a mid- round pick out of Louisiana I thought early in Camp maybe he'd be in a little trouble but they clearly liked what they saw with his speed and physicality yep and then the last guy in the 11th DB undrafted free agent out of Texas Tech Tyler Owens if you can feel it Chase it that dude flies around the football field and he's fun so a minimum of special teams probably is a rookie 62 210 and some of the best athletic scores and just crazy combine metrics you're ever going to find at the position he was like an inch away from a world record in the long jump or something crazy like that yeah I I would take my chances there right to see if I could develop somebody like that um but so just I I was talking to someone just moments ago about this very thing here GP and this is kind of what when you just mentioned it we're gonna keep our best football players quote unquote right and that's the idea so if you hire Dan Quinn to be your head coach and you you give a lot of power to Joe wit you're going to see an elevated emphasis on what they've done best over the years what's Dan Quinn know for what's Joe wit known for guys in the secondary making plays intercepting balls leion a boom that that's sort of Dan Quinn's calling card so that stands to reason why I'm just making up some numbers if you've got a safety that's a five out of 10 and a lineman that's a five out of 10 or a receiver that's a five out of 10 there's a there's an affinity extra that maybe puts the safety over the top it's insane to keep six safeties really seven if you count Dominique Hampton which I do that's a lot of safeties two maybe three on the field at once maybe you get crazy and go four I mean who knows but you see where the Affinity lies and again that's not a criticism just sort of the reality if you hire uh a former wide receiver to be your head coach like Kyle Shanahan you might see an extra receiver or two when when it's a tiebreak time or something to that effect when you give a huge seat at the table to somebody that's made their bones doing it a certain way we shouldn't be surprised by these kind of results where there are more defensive backs than any other position on the roster how about 2third of the roster being new you do the quick math it's about about 63% I came up with 33 out of 53 the number would have been higher if Jordan McGee wasn't on uh IR to start the season and we haven't even started Danny the season after this staff left yeah I mean there's times where a staff could leave and you could still have you know 50 to 60% of that roster a couple years later we are down to barely 30% of the roster being retained maybe 20 players before the season even begins that number could be 15 by Midway through the year which is just so staggering I don't know that we need to spend any more time beating up on the old regime today we've done a lot of that deservedly so I'm not suggesting they don't deserve it but with the roster formed I suppose we can look ahead I'm noticing something and I want to know if darus is catching this and Ryan is catching this if you guys don't mind now you guys went and saw twisters with me and we ate some popcorn and had some tendy as my kid calls candy and we just had a good old time we had a lot of fun we were all sitting there just high-fiving I think we took our shirts off at one point it was really really good right Danny didn't come unfortunately which means Danny hasn't seen Twisters yet I think every time I say if you feel it Chase it he hates it a little bit I'm waiting for it to be over so yeah I mean you despise it yeah because I could see it in your face people on the 1067 the fan YouTube stream can see the Tyler Owens bit does not play with you and you just can't stand it can't stand it's too it's strong you hate it no no I I don't care for it you it you it bothers you for some reason not bothered no um a little bothered yeah you know what it is it's I would say bothered I I have no interest in it no affinity for it and it's just sort of like I can't wait for it to be over so we could go ahead would you still hate it yeah okay I have no interest in that movie Glenn Pal's character I'm sure it is and it's it's F in the movie It's Kind of a Funny Sticky Thing where they're all like scientists chasing storms he's just a guy on YouTube who's like a storm Wrangler he just like appointed himself as a good-looking badass and his his catchphrase that dummies like love you know they put on a t-shirt you know how dumb everyone sure of course people are so stupid you know everyone's so dumb so they just see this catchphrase and it's like if you feel it Chase it and he's like got all these YouTube followers and subscribers and I believe you and so it's Tyler Owens sure and now I just show up at training camp and one of the big stories is this guy named Tyler Owens like three nights after Texas guy I saw the movie if you feel it Chase it if you feel it what do you think out but I think um yeah I wish you would go away and I wish I wish like Tyler Owens the football player wasn't conflated with uh a character in the movie jarus as the season goes on if Tyler Owens gets to play a little bit maybe makes a play I think we got to do if you feel it Chase it b i I think so too and plus by then I I would imagine in the next week or so the movie's going to be out on DVD won be long yeah DVD listen to this guy on digital and streaming there we go that's I don't know if I have I have DVDs still at home because it's hard for me to get rid of them of course you do I don't know if I could play them on anything oh no chance I maybe my PS5 would do it but but well I have the digital one have you ever owned a DVD oh of course yeah I I used to have a DVD player back in the day you ever burn a DVD I never burned a DVD could you watch a DVD tonight if you needed like if I gave you a movie and someone wanted to watch a movie with you and they said let's watch what GP gave you could you even find a way to do no because I don't have like a PS4 PS5 whatever PS is out there I I have no DVD player at the Clary household if you feel it Chase it if you feel it Chas it I don't think Danny feels it by the way I don't at all you know what that's a great point I don't think he feels it and that's why he can't chase it if you don't feel it hate it I think that's Danny say yes there it is put that on a t-shirt 1067 the van shop Tyler Owens bro that's great roster I'm happy for Tyler Owens this is what we're here for Grant and Danny on the fan let's see what Dan Quinn had to say about the roster being formed also some other key story lines in the NFL on cutdown day some big names now looking for work we'll get to that on g& D if you feel it e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e you will hear from Dan Quinn who just addressed reporters a few minutes ago in Ashburn coming up this segment on Grant and Danny here on the fan the 53 man roster for Washington is set two undrafted free agents make it one on each side of the ball tight end Coulson yankov and safety Tyler Owens as far as the positive the the who made it the big stories I I think that would be the beginning of the list as far as didn't think the lead is KJ Henry last year's fifth round pick out a Clemson who had a very good preseason and a pretty good training camp uh the other maybe notable name if you thought Martavis Bryant was going to make it after he caught a touchdown in the third preseason game with the wide receiver position wide open for him he did not make the roster they chose Jameson Crowder and Byron Pringle over him I thought while both of those guys have been way more successful way more recently they're a little bit redundant maybe if you just wanted to go with size could had Bryant make the team but obviously it wasn't a big priority because they have the one receiver over six foot in rookie Luke mcaffrey but they're going to keep working and whittling away I'm sure they're going to be making tweets and changes to this thing Adam Peters is going to talk to the media tomorrow and who knows by the time he steps up to the mic he will have already had an opportunity to swing a trade or two if he wants to do that indeed yeah I mean there are a couple things that sort of set up for those opportunities right where you look at maybe some duplicates at safety maybe somebody likes someone there out of that that room you look at the defensive tackle spot Ridgeway Mattis maybe there's some value there maybe somebody's receiver that that shakes loose for example Tim Patrick in Denver just uh was released they couldn't come to a trade settlement it was funny I retweeted a couple of the receivers that got cut and I was just like saying this guy's six foot two this guy's 6 foot three and someone said are you gon to do this with every receiver that gets cut all day he's being a smartass but I should have said yes but I didn't I just said well if they're huge and they make sense for Washington I've done it twice and that might be where we stop You' be all right yeah you know what they need is a receiver with size so anytime a guy that's six foot2 or bigger who's at recent six gu gets cut I am intrigued and that is someone that they should consider picking up the beauty of having the second spot in the waiver wire is that only one team gets to choose someone before you take advantage of that I would probably make five more changes to this roster just off the top of my head depending on who I could go get and and how they fit into my scheme to be completely honest with you like I'll take the under they're not going to do that but I have no problem who's the best corner available I just signed him best receiver signed him best tackle sorry Trent Scott I would just make moves like that and improve my roster yeah Patrick coming off two years uh catches in the 50s for about 742 and 734 yards six touchdowns five touchdowns respectively so nobody's telling you this is the guy that's set in the world on fire but that's better than anybody else on this roster save Teran mcen that wide receiver 2 production there's nobody on this current group that's come close to that either because they're a rookie or because they haven't come close to it over multiple chances so yeah to me that guy improves the room some other news from around the NFL before we let you hear from Dan Quinn Odell Beckham junior is going to miss the first four games of the season for the Dolphins they placed him on the pup list today the Vikings did the same thing with TJ hackinson their star tight end who ends up every year among the top pass catchers and most targeted players at his position he's going to have to make up for lost time in the last three quarters of the year if he's going to get there this season that's bad news for Sam darnold one of the big weapons for Kevin oconnell will not be available start of the year in terms of released players the Chiefs parted ways with cadarius Tony they stood by him last year I think a lot of people in Kansas City thought they were going to cut him a few different times as he was dropping passes and costing them with penalties but Andy Reid was pretty reticent that he was eventually going to help them and to his credit as the year went on at least got back on the field but the Chiefs and cadarius Tony heart ways today they released the former topof theboard pick by the New York Giants I wonder if he gets another shot you would think he would because the there's this perception that he's Dynamic but God it was very publicly really ugly with the Chiefs if you couldn't do it there I get not thriving in New York when they had you me darus Ryan and like a couple other guys from the station on offense where there's not not much going on gone around there and honestly you make the same case though like they had Isaiah hodgin they had nobody at receiver and he couldn't do anything and then he went to Kansas City and the other side of if he can't do it there it's Andy Reid It's Pat Mahomes and that's my point and they didn't have wide receiver Talent rasid rice finally emerged as the year went on out of nowhere to to become their best receiver but you've been in two places where there's nobody on the depth chart taking food off your plate and you still can't become a playmaker and that's kind of the point so you could excuse one of them away in New York where it's like nobody did anything right there's no Terrell prior situation where they had someone went for 75 and 1100 nobody did that no one did anything they barely had any forward progress as an offense you couldn't do it in Kansas city was someone that clearly liked you with with Mahomes and Kelsey taking the pressure off and not much on the outside there's just not much to it so yeah maybe somebody he he catches on somewhere because the idea of him is is awesome right the idea of him it people see like a Percy Harvin kind of Clone where you can line him up in 10 different places and it's this it's that it's not but the idea of him is very sexy other NFL news of the day that may make some headlines for those of you that have you know been following the league or playing fantasy for a while the 49ers placed running back Elijah Mitchell on injured reserve his season's over not even designated to return it sounds like they think he's going to be out for the remainder of the Season tight end Robert tanion remember uh he was the former Green Bay Packers bounced around a little bit he got waved by the Minnesota Vikings they also cut their former first round pick at safety Lou scene they also released running back Ka and wagu who had played a ton for them in this preseason and looked like he was going to make the roster and then Sam perine man Sam p man somebody check on Jay Gruden Sam perine he got cut by the Denver Broncos that is oh man that is stunning he had more catches than Johan doson last year he's out of work right now he's out oh man he is looking for a gig so those are some of the headlines from around the NFL all right let's get you just moments ago Dan Quinn meeting with the media explaining away some of what he did with the roster with Adam Peters you're listening to Grant and Danny good afternoon everybody I think uh a lot of you probably viewed our initial 53 and uh actually even think of it as deeper than that as a 70 man roster and so there's a lot of work uh to get to that tomorrow and so Adam and I we look forward to meeting you uh with that tomorrow so be glad to get started with some questions it's so uh going hey Dan um just curious the decisions at uh Edge rusher releasing KJ Henry but keeping uh shamon Davis and John Baptist yeah for sure Ben um I think honestly when you're going into you know new programs you're really looking at you know some things that will change and uh you know skeme fits and what you're looking for sometimes when you're you know going into something new you're looking for different scheme different fits but uh I think by and large we've really been pleased with what we've seen from Jamon and uh that that certainly was part of the factor hey Dan thanks for doing this today um when you one of the the 2023 draft class five of the seven guys were cut today and it kind of goes to what you were just saying what's the challenge for you when you come in you have a class of draft picks but you got your new guys too how do you weigh all that consideration is it is it just steem fit is it just kind of sometimes you just move on from the past a little bit Yeah I think once I took the job they're my guys too and so I just we're always GNA make what we think is the best decision for the team John that's our Our obligation um they no ours or there or any of that kind of good stuff like once I was here man I've connected with uh lots of players here and uh so yeah no looking at at anything other than just you know what do we need to do best for the team and uh really that's that's where it starts and ends hey D thanks for doing this um you know no knowing that some of these these players on this initial 53 man roster could be off in this littleit 36 hours when you guys start to you know if you guys do make new W CS or whatnot how do you how do you frame it to these guys when you're meeting with them and letting them know that they did make it but maybe just for now yeah that's a great question Nicki that on a day like today um I think we made 38 transactions but we met with the players um that we had to do a transactions with not the ones that we did not and so as that goes they do know I have I've told them that you know the first you know part of the roster and likely into the first part of the Season it is fluid and it's not final and set in that space and so that the conversation you know as a big picture wise Nikki that I said yesterday but we don't meet with each player to say that they made it um that will be reiterated again tomorrow adding you know to get to that 70 man rooster and so for um as we meet tomorrow you know we'll talk about backer Squad and waver claims and that but it's a fair question but uh um i' say in the front end we say you know it's not set here as we're starting this initial 53 um so that's the the marker I guess that we say at the beginning Dan why keep three quarterbacks and why have that third quarterback beat Jeff yeah I think um as you're going through it you're just with quite honestly we like you know this quarterback room and uh you just want as many guys in the building that are going through the process understanding the system and working it out it's such an important position um as you're going through it you want as many guys uh in the building that are always developing and always pushing so um no no other reason other than just you know the talent of the group and uh we really felt like this these group was really pushing it and so um that was the reason behind it coach uh Martavis Bryant and Bryson Chaine were both uh part of the cut casualties today what went into the decision to let them go and how do you approach building that wide receiver room yeah Liam it's uh two different uh spaces really so Martavis um getting here later obviously that certainly had a factor I was you know proud of him for learning you know a good bit of the system to be ready to play um especially more extended Play Time versus New England and with Bryson uh man he's really putting into work and uh has a bigger role on special teams obviously to go and so a number of these guys you could imagine right on that cup uh and so that's what you're looking to do is give them feedback about what it'll take to take the next steps and uh it's a hard day for a coach or a general manager because um you know real emotions for guys that are absolutely going forward that love the game and so you know we want to make sure we spend time with each player so it takes a long time but it's really important and the players deserve it to give them that feedback uh good afternoon coach couple of uh undrafted Guys Tyler Owens coltson Yan off just kind of talk about what they've been able to show you this preseason training camp and the decision to keep them on the AC of roster yep I would say um both of them really you know have the propensity to absolutely go for it you feel their intensity um you feel their speed when they play uh both on special teams and on offense and defense respectively so at the end of it you know when you're really trying to establish an identity David that you've heard me use that word before I think those examples come back up you know the speed the physicality the effort the straining those are things that are Commander style play and I thought those two really represented that you mentioned that the Rost are being fluid over the next couple of days and weeks over the next 24 hours the waiver wire how much of this roster do you think think is still fluid and how active do you expect you guys to be I think as you're going through it um it's kind of part of where your needs are Steve and if there ways that you can do things to address you know some needs for the team so I think we'll have a better understanding of that tomorrow after we go through tonight you know as the wire comes back out today obviously The Scouting Department um you know is the the key part of that of assessing player that may be on another team that gets released and a current player on our team so it's pretty normal on the League this year at this time that a lot of these conversations and things happen and quite often you look at um some players that uh never end up making it on the waiver wire so I think we'll have a better assessment for that as we head into tomorrow afternoon and the days ahead Dan Quinn with reporters in Ashburn going over the roster anything stand out how fluid this is I mean you heard his first words were the initial not like he said the initial he he emphasized he put the emphasis on initial right and the theme throughout all the different questions that's some good ones in there uh from from local folks asking the questions they all the answers reflected hey this can all change hey this could this is minute to minute hour to hour and you know everything kind of goes from there right where this is where we are now this is only the first report nothing is due really final wise until next week before they get ready to play he was asked about keeping three quarterbacks and why Driscoll would be the third I don't have any problem with either of those things number one I think your quarterbacks are going to run a bunch especially Daniels and he's very small and there are questions about durability that he's just going to have to answer hopefully he answers them resoundingly by staying healthy and playing in 17 games but no problem with third quarterback and who else would you have kept I mean Trace Murley over Jeff Driscoll I guess you could do that but Driscoll's a better thrower of the football I'd imagine uh who else would you have kept would you have gone with Sam Hartman you know be because you brought him in right after the draft I think Jeff Driscoll's a better option than him and Hartman or M sorley for that matter could both stay in your building on the practice squad if you want to go that route so I was going to keep three on my 53 and I had Driscoll in I think that's kind of a non story but I have seen that some people were surprised that they went with two veterans instead of another younger project type whether you view that as Hartman who's actually a kid out of college or Murley who's just younger than Driscoll would have been so I I just view things differently in in general I would almost never keep three because especially if I've got somebody like Jaden Daniels the in the instant he's not playing nothing I'm doing has any meaning anyway I thought last week you said you'd keep three this year no I I'm not a keep three guy rarely ever what what I do it there's got to be an extreme circumstance like if Dan Daniels was dealing with a nagging injury or or something that could easily you know tenuously uh have a setback or something like where he wasn't sure wasn't full go maybe I considered but in general it's just to me the plane crashes into the mountain the instant my Young quarterback can't go if I'm good like if I'm San Francisco I might keep three or if I'm if I'm a team that that you know I might lose my starter for a little while or something to that effect and I need to be competitive right now if I'm a contender maybe I do it but in a developmental portion that's not for me you could also almost always stash a guy on the practice Squad which is like having a third in the building anyway yeah like if I L if I lose Jeff Driscoll I'll be fine you know I will like if if I put him on my practice squad or I try to if someone takes him I'll find a Jeff Driscoll maybe not the guy that knows my system as well but I I can't lose sleep over that totally but I do think there's a pretty sizable Gap in a situation where you got to play a month of football between a Driscoll and a Murley now it may not matter at all probably doesn't matter to this team if you win five games or seven games or six games or whatever I get that but I'm keeping the best players and I also think just having an extra veteran an extra guy who can answer some questions around Jaden Daniels Is Not a Bad Thing agreed whether that would have been on the P Squad where you can now keep veterans or on the active roster uh speaking of quarterback play in the preseason bill bich was asked how much performance of QBs in the preseason matters and I thought his answer was really really interesting I want people to hear that next uh we can also get into the fact that there's still a quarterback competition that doesn't have an answer that we don't know who's going to start at quarterback for a team we will do that on Grant and Danny as soon as we return on the fan e e e e e e e e e e e e e cut down day in the NFL and for the commanders welcome back Grant and Danny on the fan notable Cuts defensive nkj Henry wide receiver Martavis Bryant wide receiver running back Cass Allen and tight end Cole Turner among almost 30 players who got the ax today best stories of the guys who made it I think you got to go with the undrafted free agent tight end Coulson yankoff the undrafted safety Tyler Owens Danny Tyler Owens from Texas Tech the football player if you can will it it is no dream Theodore Herzel feel it Chase it Byron Pringle probably a surprise he wasn't even on the roster on day one at training camp they signed him couple days in I was told by the way that Terry McClaren really lobbied for him Andor advocated on his behalf like really liked what he did for the room last year liked him as a player I had someone tell me that mclen was a big proponent of bringing him back I believe that I mean it's listen it's not sexy it's it's boring even but that's okay right that that is a Dependable what do you need you mean fill in here fill in there fill in out like not going to complain good go to go to work and and help everybody one guy we haven't talked much about javante Jean Baptist seventh round pick out of Notre Dame we had him on the show right after the draft he was a really good uh guest but he bounced in college from one Elite program to another and after playing four years at one of the best programs in America he went from Ohio State to Notre Dame to finish his college career highly recruited guy lot of talent and they obviously we're going to prioritize their guys over Ron Rivera's guys anyway so maybe if and KJ Henry were in a tie you were going to keep Baptist but Baptist had some big moments in the preseason had some decent practices along the way based on all the reporting out of training camp so he made the roster that was very good to see very notable as well seven safeties and 11 DBS made the team hard to ignore that man I I mean again this is the point I was making a little bit ago to Chris Russell who hosts a podcast on the deuce um you bring in a defensive head coach and Empower him and then Empower his top lieutenant and Joe wit what are they known for what are their calling cards when you think of Joe wit you should think of a guy that leads league in interceptions it's a different person every year their secondaries pick people off you think of Dan Quinn what do you think of the strongest brand Association legion of boom they have worked secondaries so you're going to see that like if if you Empower uh you know that agency of the government you're going to see more things leaning that way it just sort of stands to reason right like if I'm the president and I have the state department in my ear more than I do the defense department I'm going to do a lot more diplomacy than I'm going to drop bombs on people or vice versa you bring in a defensive head coach all of a sudden that's what happens you end up with with six guys really seven when you include Dominique Hampton and when you actually include Dominic Hampton and and you have the seven safeties I should say it's 12 DBS I said 11 that's with the six safeties but they list Hampton as a linebacker so really they kept 12 defensive backs wow didn't it which is essentially half of your defense in some you know 53 man rosters where you might keep like 260 24d or something like that so pretty uh unreal to think about all right I wanted to get to this audio so this was Bill bellich on the Pat McAfee show where he's going to be a staple on ESPN throughout the year I've already gotten a lot out of listening to bellich talk on on different Platforms in the media now this year but you and I keep talking about the rookie quarterbacks and how well they've all played we're impressed with Jaden Daniels in town Bo Nick's won the job in Denver they love how he's performed whether it's Drake May in New England or Caleb Williams in Chicago or Michael pennick in his one game with Atlanta to a person all of those guys eyes shined in that limited capacity that they got on the field JJ McCarthy in one game people wanted him to start over know Sam darnold because he looked good and so the question to bellich was basically how do you evaluate quarterback play in the preseason and if a guy young guy or old guy doesn't matter if they look good does that mean anything this is what bellich had to say about that well I mean first of all I don't think you really know how anybody's playing in preseason I mean especially at the quarterback position the schemes are so simple uh from the other side of the ball generally speaking you know you're you're running uh you're for the most part you're running very basic schemes you're trying to evaluate your players you're trying to get them to play the Good fundamentals that they know how to play You're not disguising things uh you you just you just want your defensive players to be you know ready to react and play fast and quickly and you don't want to put in like a thousand adjustments uh against a team who offensively isn't running that much anyway so um most of those games are very basic when you watch the games it's you know two or three coverages you see a lot of man-to-man coverage because teams like to you know evaluate their players and see who can play manto Man Who Can't and and so look Zone teams play zone I'm not saying that but you know you do things to evaluate your players I think to to come out of preseason and say oh this guy's really playing good that guy's really playing good uh I would I wouldn't put much stock in that at all I put more stock in what they're doing in practice and let's see what happens in the first three or four regular season games when the opponents specifically attack certain players based on what they think they can and can't get on them and then let's and let's see how they're playing then it's a cold bucket of water I think for a lot of the fan bases that are raving about how their young quarterback's playing and I think some of that is the common parament or like what you hear said about the preseason I just think it means so much more coming from him when he says these defenses are not playing any kind of confusing coverages they're not giving you any looks that aren't Elementary they're lining up and playing football it's a lot of man coverage when we watched Drake may as an example looked excellent the other night he was awesome I thought was yeah for the Patriots made some ridiculous plays and the story out of that was their media grilling gerod Mayo that he should be the starter and why isn't he the number one on the depth chart well Bill bich che's point it's not just a May point but just more largely is take all of these performances with a grain of salt the practice is more telling than game mean but it's all we get like we're on the outside I understand yeah him him on the inside we we get the little trickled out things or a beat reporter's tweet or you know trying to Reet the lines on the comments from a uh a coach or position coach or offensive coordinator or something about how how someone's grasp it or a teammate and we're desperate for the information and then we get either confirmation or negation of that with a quotequote live performance and his point as you said I think it's very you're dead right it is the giant cold bucket of water on anything that you saw yeah it's the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge seriously just being dumped on your head a little bit where you watch a lot of young QB shine in the preseason and you're like man maybe this guy's really good and the fact is it's probably only telling if they're stinking up the joint which isn't to say that if you're a Patriots fan watching Drake mayia other night or heck here in DC with Jaden Daniels or or in Denver with Bo Knicks or wherever that you shouldn't be excited I would still rather them look really good than not and maybe when the regular season starts it comes easy and these guys are all really efficient but what is the chance that they're all awesome they've all pretty much played that way they they've all looked like they're about to have a great rookie season somebody's fooling everybody I don't know who those quarterbacks are maybe one or two of those guys has a great year the rest of them are going to be up and down one or two of them might have a really bad year right now they all look like they're about to go out and ball yeah even in a in a historic rookie year for quarterbacks it doesn't look six for six you know what I mean it's two for six or three for six or eventually becomes four or five for six but the only thing I'd push back on and here here's me about to take on Bill bellich in terms of a takeoff um but if I'm if I'm a fan of a team which I happen to be here you can still see reasons for excitement like I'm not sitting here telling you that put a gold jacket on Jaden Daniels just because I saw him play well in the preseason because he he took that one uh shot play checking out a run but if his arm couldn't get the ball there for the sake of argument like somebody's open and it's a wet noodle wounded duck that's been shot by a buckshot that falls five feet short or he's skipping the ball here or looks lost can't even handle the snap and he's getting confused and turtles up you could tell something you could also have reasons to be excited no one's saying it's done no one's saying it's over like we you and I push back I love the guy to death but when EB said he's bus proof no he's not nobody is at this stage like nothing is done but you can be be excited to say hey this is started I I see I see something that's worth developing here I think that's a fair push back yeah I don't think there's such a thing certainly of a high draft pick who's got the physical traits to go in the top five of like not being able to look like he can walk and chew gum like kind I know you were being a little bit hyperbolic but like I don't think that's a reality for a guy that's drafted High you might get a udfa quarterback or something who just can't get the ball out can't figure it out can't get the ball on the Deep out 15 yards down field but I think belich che's point and it's kind of how I've always felt is all of the stuff that's going to determine if a young quarterback's good or not they're really not doing yet yeah you know the reading of defenses and figuring out what you're disguising against me and playing chess and being able to to get through my progressions and it we didn't see any of that yet doesn't mean it's not going to be all there when it needs to be in September every report is great so I'm excited I'm encouraged I'm happy I'm optimistic but just like in Denver just like in New England you some other places you're not seeing a lot of that speaking of New England they still don't have a quarterback starter named which is very odd to me this whole thing's been strange it's almost like jod Mayo who I don't think ever interviewed for head coaching jobs outside of New England and didn't even have to interview for that job if I've got this right because he was the coach in waiting and who's never been a coordinator only a position coach as a linebacker coach is doing it in a weird way you know it's almost like his lack of experience is showing so he's had comments along the way that are very strange he called Drake May after the game the second best quarterback on the team well if that's the case why is there an open competition and why haven't you named a starter then the next morning on on the equivalent of the junkies in Boston on his weekly radio show like Mike Rizzo does with the junks or whatever he said Drake May has outperformed jacobe brassette throughout the preseason who he had just called the second best quarterback and his point was I have to take into account practices all the way back to the spring or whatever there's been some conflicting thoughts nobody really knows exactly what they're doing he said over and over again at the start of camp that jacobe brassett was the starting quarterback then halfway through Camp after a preseason game or two it was an open competition the whole thing's been very very strange I don't think they will start Drake may I don't even think they should initially I think that line is so terrible that I just saw in person on Sunday that I would throw jacobe brassette to the Wolves for a month or so and let them sort out the line and then go to the kid and try not to get his confidence rattled or or you know him any worse off to start with bad Personnel around him than he already is going to be and I'd wait about a month with a tough schedule but I guess it's possible he starts for them but I just think they've handled it so badly this was Dan orlovski on ESPN talking about the decision and he thinks it would be malpractice to start May with just how bad that line is and some of the issues they've got from a Personnel standpoint couldn't pay me enough to start Drake may I I I wouldn't do it and I wouldn't let anybody convince me otherwise I got a lot of love for Lewis here's here's my stance on this if we're looking at it through the the the prism of Drake May when it comes to his Development I've loved it he's he's changed protections he's controlled and owned a little bit of the line of scrimmage he's thrown the ball very well the big flaw coming out of school with his feet and the erratic element of his that has improved so much so from that vantage point I I get it I understand it someone give me a good reason why to play Drake May are you serving yourself or you serving you know what people may want or or what you think the organization wants or the fans want there there's three things that rookie quarterbacks need to have success in the NFL let alone to make sure they don't get ruined good scheme in play caller plus offensive line plus skill Alex velter offensive coordinator I don't know a ton about I like his scheme I don't know a ton about him as a play caller I think it's his first time so I'm not making a judgment on that they don't have plus offensive line plus skill they don't there's no reason to play Drake May unless you have those three things the Patriots have at least 0 for two if not 0 for three so the problem I have with that logic which actually is really smart in setting a guy up to succeed they're not going to have two of those three things by the end of the year right it sounds as if they're walking through the door in week six no so you just don't play them at all is week four okay is week seven okay there are teams two and three years in that don't have that sorry I mean at some point you got to play and and I really do believe if you're special a lot of times you can overcome now you're not going to overcome horrific and maybe they're horrific like I think Washington's got enough they're in a bucket where if Jaden Daniels or Bo Knicks or whoever was here they're really good they'll overcome you got McClaren you got Eckler you got her you got you know a decent enough offensive line that was middle the pack via PFF last year like there's some bones to work with here New England is an Abomination on the offensive line someone should be fired for building that group based on how they played the other night if that's really what they are minus their Center um but it is what it is their outside receivers are mostly young and inexperienced but I guess my point Danny is a I wonder what they're going to do they're the only team where we really don't know who their quarterback is and B that logic of if you don't have these three things then you can't start a guy I think that's silly because a lot of bad teams don't have those things so a couple things one this reminds remember those discussions we had for so many years where it was the Snyder Le group uh and they would just sort of say we were at that point we're we're the Redskins people will come to us you know what I mean just because it's it's who we are and we get the benefit of the doubt when that was gone for a long time and they didn't realize it that's how New England's behaving we're the Patriots you haven't really been the quotequote Patriots for a handful of years now right that 20 years of dominance is long over and you're not the most the smartest guy in the room anymore you're not the genius that that sees it that where no one else sees it but they're acting in a very arrogant way it just seems to me just generally that's offputting but number two I understand the point in the sentiment right if it's so bad I wouldn't want to put that challenge in front of uh my quarterback I would have done a lot more in the offseason they again they didn't see fit to do that so I don't like throwing a guy to the wolves and saying get over this and be special enough to fix it one reason why they should start him well he's the best player they have at the position that would be one well he he matters and the other guy doesn't I mean so that that's the reason like his his development's important whereas brets is not so that's why you play him at some point would you play him week one I would but I I have always said yes until seeing them in person and seeing how Washington's dline destroyed that o line and I think they've got to just play for a couple of weeks and get that sorted out now he didn't seem to have a problem he was running all over the place making throws yeah picking up broken snaps and fighting for it yeah Grant and Danny on the fin I had a wacky experience this weekend that I want to bounce off Danny it was wild and it has kind of changed how I feel about something sportswise uh we'll get to that also cutdown day in the NFL the commanders have a roster formed we'll get into that next on the fan e e e e e e e e e e e welcome back Grant and Danny on the fan this past Saturday afternoon Danny and I had an event down in Richmond we went to the football Fest Awad threw a big party 910 the fan so all of our listeners down in Richmond we were down enjoying a lovely day that was fun at a bowling alley restaurant bar outdoor Vibes was really really cool River City role I think it was called that's right and uh it was a great evue great event nice job by Awad we took part in a little Q&A on stage with Michael Phillips of the fan en Richmond and got to hang out with Fred Smoot and I was playing the new College footall game on somebody's Xbox and the whole thing was just a good day good vibe uh in fact awad's producer stump and I played head-to-head and I beat him what was the score like 57 to nothing I think in the new college football game oh I'm sorry about that now this is going to be a reoccurring theme okay I was on easy and he wasn't uh you guys may remember that from oh no uh spring training trip that we made did you did you be Clary or Toby that way I can't remember Toby it was like 77 to3 or something crazy uh so we should have restarted probably because the settings weren't right but we played the game anyway and what was great about it was even though he was better than me at the game I'm sure because he actually plays it and I was beating him so handily there was a band on stage and they kept looking over at the score and I was Virginia Tech and he was JMU and they're like JMU dude so he was like it was so embarrassing they kept calling him out every time a song would be done they'd look back up and it' be another touchdown or two got scored it was it was rough but we had fun time the reason I bring this up is I drive down to Richmond on Saturday and I had worked from 10:00 to noon on betql and and infinity Sports on the national show that I do here on the network and so I woke up in the morning did the show drove down to Richmond hadn't had anything to eat or anything all day and so I texted Danny I'm like hey man where didd you end up in Richmond because I know you got down there earlier yep I know of one sports bar in that General vicinity that I used to go to all the time when I would go to Commander's training camp they were then still the Redskins I was on the beat or or even after that and not far from where they practice there's this sports bar in downtown Richmond called gusses that I really like just cuz good menu it's you know burgers and wings I mean it is a sports bar exactly lots of TVs so I walk into this bar and it is packed to the gills with Arsenal fans uhuh watching Arsenal football we'll call it for the sake of the story mhm okay this was uh the Premier League on Saturday and they had a big game apparently there was another funny thing that happened which is as soon as I sat down at a table they put me kind of in the corner by myself at a little table I look over at the bar and I see Danny ruer sitting there yeah which is hysterical on many levels because I mean there are not enough levels to count how funny it is that we ended up at the same bar that you're in a bar like basically I'm sitting in a sports I'm sitting at a bar which I don't do opposite of you and way and I'm like what the heck there's Danny that's crazy so I tell you this story to tell you that I end up watching and you did as well um at you were at the bar I was sitting kind of in the corner of the table but it was amazing to watch a game with Arsenal fans and it made me wish that I liked soccer and went to bars on the weekend to watch soccer the amount of chanting and singing how do they know all the songs all the things like some one guy yells out like a cheerleader would like let's say a guy's name is like Grant they're like Grant is the best and everyone's like Grant goes left and he goes right they start singing songs the whole thing was just an awesome experience and I kind of want to be an Arsenal fan now I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing for those of you that like soccer I don't know if that would be a worthwhile Endeavor for me but I think I need to get a kit and I need to find out where to go in DC and I just want to chant and sing and take my son one please don't get a kit two I'm sure everyone will be very welcoming and not scolding you and super annoying and put up barriers and roll their eyes at you and be really really frustrating um the other thing I would say is so I'm with my buddy Brad so I I met up with my our friends Brad and Melinda uh for lunch down there and you know she had to take the kids back home and Brad and I had some time to kill before we had to beat River City rooll pretty close by I'm like oh you know what I want to watch the Florida state Georgia Tech game from Ireland that's on that's cool college football that'll be fun let's go grab some wings and she was like I know there's a sports part around on the corner and gusses and we walked in and seven people before we could even get to the bar with their arms wide open going ar ar I'm like what the bleep is this and why why are you yelling and how does everyone know the songs that's what I have for you I loved it I imagine you did not no it was loud and it was energetic and it was just a lot of people having fun all the things that you hate it's not it's not the fun part it's the where is Arsenal if you're from there that's really cool you get to watch your team on television when you're like an xat watching a otherwise what you what' you do just throw a dart at a board how'd you decide to be an Arsenal fan because you like the songs thought the whole thing was great I do have one buddy who's a big fan of Arsenal who watches them every weekend or whatever and I texted him and he was like living so vicariously through me he's like dude this is so awesome I'm sending him all the chant videos and everything and he said all right if you really want to get him going he's like you gotta yell out I don't remember like what do you think of I think it was like Manchester United or another team I don't remember who it was okay but he's like yell it out really loudly and I just didn't have the stones to do it to say what do you think of like City Manchester City I think it would lead to either another chant or some type of like big thing he's like yell out in the bar this quote I don't remember what it it was like what do you I'm just making this up like what do you think of man city or something and then I guess you do that and all the Arsenal fan hates them and so they do something in response it was like a call and response thing I just didn't have the yeah the to do it to pull it off but I still had a lot of fun and I'm jealous of soccer fans who watch games and that kind of experience we have nothing like that you watch a football game you cheer when there's a big we got one song and Hail to the commanders and now it's the barber shop quartet we're fighting for our commanders now don't have we literally don't have that anymore we have nothing we have cheering when a play happens that is awesome I just thought it was so cool and so fun and that's all that is and the fact that you were at a bar is still comical to me it's so it's so weird but doing it there like at whatever like Arsenal stadium is I let's call it Northwest stadium for Arsenal uh if you're there like this the spontaneous singing and jubilance that rules like watching welcome to reom when they just sort of break out into the song they I don't know how they get the songs around everybody so that every player's got a song every situation of the game has a song we've got a lead one know's the lead up and they all know how to do it and it's who starts it who's in charge of it just these weird things to me that are amazing what's our biggest disagreement with the commander roster decision today as they form their 53 man roster we'll get into that next also we'll get you ready for game two with the Dylan Cruz era and Nat baseball right here on the fan e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e we're Grant and Danny and this is the fan the exclusive sponsor for our show is the law firm of condori and murod 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Richmond on son uh was it Sunday or Saturday Saturday Sunday Sunday uh no that would be a Saturday afternoon yeah that was when we became Arsenal guys right big Arsenal fans all the songs 53 formed for the Washington commanders I think it'll look different tomorrow I don't know that they're going to pull off a John Ridgeway trade like they'd like to I don't know what they're going to be able to get done at the wide receiver position but I do know that this is not going to be put in pen or put in Sharpie the headlines if you're just jumping in your car getting on the road on your way home today as the roster was formed by Washington and Dan Quinn having addressed the media is that they kept a boatload of safeties if you keep Dominique Hampton at the safety position on your depth chart seven different safeties and 12 defensive backs Mike sandr still Jeremy chin Emanuel Forbes Noah igog Juan Martin Derek Forest Michael Davis Ben St JW Percy Butler Jeremy Reeves Tyler Owens and Dominique Hampton now safety I do think they're going to be pretty good but I think at corner you're basically throwing bodies at a problem right I mean let's be frank I mean there's really not anything trustworthy there on the outside I think the inside nickel position we are assuming Mike Sandra still is going to be terrific and I think he will he had a great Camp he had a good preseason so just say that last year's National Championship winning captain at Michigan is awesome they've got IG bogany behind him who had a good camp all right fine the inside the nickel Corner Spot is good outside it's Forbes who else Michael Davis Benjamin St juust I have major questions there still so Ben sandic wrote this in his roster projection um kind of the whisper quiet little thing is sandr's wild coaches so much this is from his story the great news is that Sr still wild coaches and teammates this summer with his maturity toughness and coverage ability he has been so impressive that defensive coordinator Joe wit said the second round pick and primary slot corner has begun playing more outside in two quarterback sets now that's good hey this kid's impressive but it's bad because there's significant questions about the other guys at that spot yeah I was going to say I mean number one you're almost never in those situations like there were teams this preseason that ran 11 personnel 95% of the time the Rams came to mind I think Washington was in 11 11 personnel by the way it's three R wide receivers Washington was in that almost 75 to 80% of the time from the numbers I saw Warren sharp putting out now whether you you operate at that extent that way all year I don't know I don't know exactly what that's going to look like but I do think that's something that if you're playing outside when two receiver sets and you're only doing that like 20 30% of the time Max okay I guess uh the other problem is you move him outside you solve that problem as you said it's a leaky damn yeah it's like okay we're we're putting our finger over this hole water's not coming out wait what that over there now you got to run over and put your finger on that hole this is like a cartoon all a sudden there's an explosion coming at some point the water's about the burst yeah where do you want the leak to be that's that's the thing I guess for me I would rather have my leak inside than on the outside because you get beat outside it's touchdowns you could beat inside it's another first down how about other positions of Interest wide receiver going Crowder and Pringle at your fifth and sixth spots over any of the youth whether that would have been Cass Allen or Bryson Tain shouldn't have been a surprise because you can get those guys to practice squad but I normally just like a little more not only youth on my roster but twitch wiggle speed burst juice whatever you want to call it I think they prioritize like veterans who have been around with a Young quarterback indeed yeah I mean just if there were Marquee names like if they drafted a couple guys higher you know maybe traded back into the first round or use one of their second round picks on a guy like that um you know you could sort of see okay let's we're developing not only the quarterback but another guy in the receiver room let's Mentor him with a with a Jameson Crowder with a with Byron Pringle Etc this is basically you know Teran McClaren in the Misfits at this stage plus you know you hope that there's some upside uh with Luke mcaffry but to me this is this is this is the spot where I still feel like it's most likely that's not the final group that's assembled for next weekend our coverage today of cut down day here at the end of training camp presented by Paul Henry's Windows Paul Henry windows.com your clear Home Improvement Choice uh let's get to the Nationals as we get ready for baseball five minutes from now Charlie and Dave will have pregame Juan stto in DC got a lovely Ovation I just got a text from our buddy Toby altiser who's over at the Ballpark today at BP uh he is the co-host of the very popular beloved Bost and loose baseball one of the great Nationals podcasts in America uh he texted us and said that Juan stto signed an autograph for every person down on the field behind the Rope at batting practice you know they have 15 20 30 fans come down he said he was over there for like 20 minutes just signing for everybody awesome he is really soaking up his return to DC and all the love he's getting uh do not mistake that for me thinking he's coming back here a day after fuga in the post wrote that the Nats should sign him I agree with Barry they absolutely should try to I just have no faith in this ownership group doing that and I'm not going to spend one single second uh trying to convince myself that that's a possibility I'll be pleasantly stunned if it were to happen but I don't think that's a real thing so I think even if you counted it each one of those signatures would be Val would is the equivalent of $10 million for wano in terms of overall salary it still wouldn't be enough you know what I mean like it's not it's not a non-starter at this stage I just I just can't see it I I would love to be wrong I'd love to be surprised I'm not even talking about wotto a a large Marquee free agent acquisition I would be blown back I would be I would be knocked out of this room if that's what ended up happening so that is a more fun discussion we'd have to describe and Define what large free agent acquisition like somebody that other teams wanted okay I'd be surprised at this point that I'll disagree with I think they add a big bat they'll add someone who hits 25 plus homers next year and projects to maybe give him 30 I've thrown the name Anthony santand Anthony santand out a lot the right fielder for the Orioles I don't know if it'll be him I think he leaves Baltimore and he goes and gets paid somewhere but it'll be an outfielder like that you know teoscar Hernandez who with the Dodgers who won the Home Run Derby I could see somebody like that signing with the Nationals and playing him in a corner now if they do that you kick Dylan Cruz to Center and James Wood stays in left then Jacob young who's a gold glove award-winning center fielder defensively maybe a platinum Glover this year is out of a gig and I know that Mike Rizzo has an affinity for young as he should he's an unbelievable Defender who also is going to steal 40 bases maybe this year so there's something to be said maybe for just keeping your cheap homegrown Outfield together with wood young and Cruz left to right and then maybe spending at the corners in the infield maybe you go get a bopper at first you could get someone who hits a ton of home runs who could play Third until Brady house is ready then transition to DH you could sign two first base types if you wanted to one to play first and one to DH and go add you know a combin 50 plus home runs that way but I do think they're going to add a big bat at least and probably an arm for the rotation I hope you're right I don't think you are I don't think it's outside like the Nelson Cruise tier is I think where they're going to spend once again well if that happens it's time to really start crushing them uh and it's time to start coming down pretty hard on the ownership group because that would be pretty inexcusable after the Corbin money comes off the books with them showing what they did this year before they sold off at the deadline last few years that made a lot of sense in the rebuild and I think we're past that point so I would agree with you I think how we would cover that as a show certainly and hopefully as a market would look very very different this time around let's get you your NAT starting lineups and pitching matchups presented by the window man since 1989 the windowman has been the educational window company get your free no pressure inhome estimate at the window man.com or at their Fairfax showroom behind Patrick Corbin whose ER is south of 6.0 let's go now it's a tough assignment it's the Yankees so it might go up maybe under five and a half maybe after the next start because that's a good lineup anyway L It Go fepi J Abrams batting second the James Wood batting third oh hello there second baseman Luis Garcia your clean up hitter doing the catching kber Ruiz your DH batting fifth Andre chaparo batting six third baseman Jose 10 batting seventh in right field Dylan Cruz they're not doing it's they're cruising uh batting eighth at first base Joy Gallow batting ninth your guy my guy our guy Jacob young odd that Cruz hit second last night against the Lefty now all the way down to s against the righty he was a lot better against righties and the miners than he was against lefties this year for what it's worth Nats game day weather is presented by Pepco storm season here we know a little prep makes a big difference get storm informed at pepco.com storm prep our show meteorologist as you all know is darus dammer a little bit of a a heat a Scorch out there tonight it's going to be 89 degrees at first pitch it'll dip into the low 8s by the time the game ends uh but no chance of precipitation have a good night at National Park let's go no rain daring the good news no Raina thank you Dad thank D I love you Dad you're the best dad I love you D appreciate you uh keep it right here for Nats pregame with Charlie and Dave next we are back at it at two o'clock for darrison Ryan Grant and Danny saying so long till tomorrow Vargas thank you for coming e e e