Harris: Chip sales to China betray U.S. Trump: Taiwan sold? Nonsense?TVBS Situation Room 20240911

I am Zhao Shaokang. Welcome to the TVBS Shaokang Situation Room . We have special guests on the scene. Councilor Zhao Yixiang. Li Youyi . Spokesperson. Dean Jiang Minqin. Councilor Lin Yufang. Councilor You Shuhui. Councilor Chen Weijie. Because I was just watching. Jiang Minqin used to be a visiting professor at Shih Hsin University and now he has become a manager. Congratulations to the dean of the college, dean... I work hard and work hard. I am new to the world. Thank you. Today's debate is the first debate between He Jinli and Trump. He said that you can't take notes and you can't... The microphone means whoever speaks will turn it on . I turned off my phone alone , but the result was that the war was still going on. I still tried my best to interrupt. I originally expected that this would be the only debate before the election . Originally, there were usually three US presidential debates. At the time of Biden, there were two and one at a time. By June, Biden He miscalculated that June was too early, so if it were later , maybe it would not have been that long for people to ask him to step down. Trump also miscalculated. Trump should not have attacked Biden so early and violently . If he wanted to do it a little bit, Be gentle... Maybe Biden won't look so miserable. Maybe there won't be a better replacement. Harris Jinli's momentum has skyrocketed. In today's debate, some people said that Harris debated better. Some said Trump argued better. But it depends on which channel. Look which one... The media that leans toward who said that there was a handshake at the beginning. He Jinli walked up to Trump gracefully and introduced herself to him. Then this was the first time in 8 years because they didn't shake hands before. But they finished the debate today. There was no handshake, and everyone walked to the other side. Evidently the mood was up again. After the debate, they left separately. But obviously... that's fine. The gentleman's fight started with a handshake. He Jinli criticized Trump and said, "You will leave a mess for me , because Trump will definitely He will say that your governance is not good. He Jinli said that our governance is not good . It is the mess you left for us. We have been cleaning up your mess. And Trump said that this economic policy is copied from Biden, which means that Biden is copied from him. In addition, He Jinli said, "Trump, you said you love the United States. What do you love? You sold chips to China and used them for military purposes. Trump said they were sold by Taiwan, not by me . How can there be any chips in the United States that are sold by TSMC but not by Taiwan? " I sold it. In addition, He Jinli also scolded Trump for showing favor to Xi Jinping. So if you look at this election, who is more anti-China and who is softer towards China has become the theme of the election . It is very similar to Taiwan. Don’t you think? It seems that Taiwan is electing. He Jinli said There should be a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas. Trump said that if I said there would be no war at all, you can’t stop the ceasefire even if it lasts for half a day. In addition, Trump said that if I become president, the war between Russia and Ukraine will end in one day. He Jinli said that you are being treated as lunch by Putin. What do you eat ? Just stop it for one day. Let’s take a look. I’m Harris Harris. Good luck with the debate. It’s probably the first and only time in history that Trump and Harris have a direct debate. Trump is still a familiar Trump. Someone went on TV to accuse of eating cats. Someone accused her of eating cats on TV. He said dogs were tied up and eaten. Trump accidentally moved out. Rumors about eating cats and dogs. Attacking immigration policy plays into Harris's hands. Hahaha , you actually echoed the extreme remarks . Harris actually followed the advice, angered Trump with laughter, and treated the debate like a bullfight . Under Trump he ended up selling American chips to China to help them improve and modernize their military. First they bought the chips from Taiwan and we barely make them anymore because of their Biden philosophy and their policies. I'm not talking about her. Policy Because she has no policy, the ABC host almost couldn't suppress Trump. Trump also said that he could end the war between Ukraine and Russia before he took office. It was just a mess. It seemed that he was criticizing the wrong person. The situation would only get worse and trigger World War III. Our president said goodbye. Is he really the president? He ran away like a dog and dropped out of the election. We have a president who doesn’t know whether he is dead or alive. Mr. Former President, your time is up. First of all, I want to advise Trump. You are not running against Biden. You are running against me. Well , I believe Trump said that the world will be destroyed in 24 hours because Trump has given up on the world . The policy discussion at the ABC US presidential debate may have been out of focus in the bullfight show again //// What does Brother Yu Fang think? I think everyone beforehand Everyone underestimated He Jinli a little , so this debate was beneficial to He Jinli at the beginning . That is to say, he didn’t have to do so well in the exam. People would think that he did well in the exam. It would be good if it was better than expected. Trump, everyone thought he was You see, Shapiro is a very good debater . He scared the governor of Pennsylvania and said that he is a very good showman. In fact, he has hosted a reality show, a TV reality show, and has been on the radio for more than ten years , so he is. .. He is a veteran. He can’t even talk about policies, but he always uses some very provocative words to criticize the other party , so he is really a master. And for He Jinli, I always think that this election is No matter what, he will definitely make money, because if you see a poll of people who are likely to vote, 90% of Likely voters think they are familiar with Trump. It is no wonder that Trump has been president for four years and has done so before. In terms of debate, this is his 7th presidential debate and Jinli Harris. They have not seen him fully describe what he was in the previous vice presidential debate. Only 71 of the likely voters think they know Jinli Harris, so the gap is almost 20 points. Of course, if you don’t understand , it’s unlikely that you will vote for you . So as long as He Jinli performs well in this election, I believe that his polls will come up soon. Frankly speaking, the so -called loyal Republicans in the Republican Party don’t care about the votes they grabbed this time. Had there been this debate or not, they would not have voted for this because of this... They would not have voted for Harris because of this debate. Likewise, solid supporters of the Democratic Party would not have voted for Trump just because they watched the debate on TV. Impossible ever. The most influential person in the U.S. presidential campaign was Kennedy in 1960 In the debate between Nixon and Kennedy , the gap was really too big. However , they were only a few years apart in age. The most important thing was that Nixon had not recovered from his illness . Then he was running around in front of him. He was too confident and was in a hurry behind him. He was busy coming in to participate in the debate. He looked sick, his face was tired, and his beard was not shaved off. Black and white TV was a black and white TV at that time. You can clearly see your black beard, the roots of your hair, and the stubble. So in terms of that debate, Nick actually There were four debates between Johnson and Kennedy. Everyone only remembers the first time . What is very interesting is that after doing a survey, people who watched TV thought that Kennedy argued well , but people who listened to the radio thought that Nixon argued well, because listening to the radio did not You will see the stubble but not the sick look on his face , so I think for He Jinli, this time really provides him with a good opportunity , but he should also be praised when you watch him speak. I think his first gesture was right. He walked over and shook hands with Trump. Everyone, what do you think feminists and American women would think of this man? He has a very good demeanor . Even many American boys , although American male voters voted for him. ..The people who want to support He Jinli are far less than the people who support Trump , but they will think that you think he has a very good demeanor , and they will think that Trump, you are a boy and a woman first, don’t you know? You should go and shake hands with others first. Why does He Jinli come to shake hands? And He Jinli was smiling most of the time from beginning to end , so his demeanor was very good , and he was really prepared. For example, when he talked about diplomacy, he talked about abortion in a lively and colorful way . You see, he said a simple sentence about women. Doesn’t he have the right to decide his own body, right? If you want to have a woman who has to work two and three jobs outside, she has to go to the state next door because abortion is not allowed in this state. She has to go next door and find a stranger. The doctor came to help him operate the surgery and said that all these things would... all make people feel uncomfortable. And why should it be decided by the state instead of women themselves? So this is very beneficial to him and he said it diplomatically. I have said a lot of things that I think should not be underestimated. For example, the problem in Afghanistan is actually Biden’s fatal injury. He hastily withdraws troops. But you see, He Jinli actually said it very well. He Jinli said that the Taliban terrorists , how can the United States talk to the Taliban? You didn’t. The Afghan government talks about you talking to the Taliban government , and you also invite them to Camp David, the most sacred place for diplomatic negotiations, and you still want to talk to them. Later, when the news leaked, of course there was no talk , and he also told us one thing. Withdrawing troops saved one day and 300 million U.S. dollars , and your negotiations actually released 5,000 terrorists . So I think Harris really did her homework. I think this debate and I heard that the CNN poll has come out. I think he's going to gain at least 3 to 5 points in this debate , Trump, because he just said that immigrants are eating dogs and cats, and he said they're eating dogs, and they're eating people's pets there, because he said, I saw someone on TV. She said that my dog ​​was taken away and treated as food. Pets became food. Both He Jinli and the host retorted that it was so extreme and so easy to debate. When the polls were going back and forth in the 7 swing states, the difference was only 1. We saw that He Jinli won. Michigan, Pennsylvania, then Wisconsin and then North Carolina almost lost. Let’s see who lost... He Jinli lost to Arizona, Arizona, then Georgia, and then North Carolina almost tied with Nevada . Point Nevada is almost 45.74 45. The post-election poll said that Harris had 63 and Trump only 37. Of course, CNN is more Democratic , but don’t forget that after the last debate between Biden and Trump, Biden was also very miserable . It was also CNN. The poll was done, so it is not so fair , but it is still quite referenceable. If you are special, he did not say that Biden did a good debate last time. In addition... the latest poll is 47 to 44. He Jinli beat Trump 3 , but I Look, this is a general poll. The American election is very strange. So many states are not important. In the 50 states, there are only those 7 swing states. In the 7 swing states, only those 20 or 300,000 people decide, because not everyone in the swing states swings there every day. There are not only a few people who are swaying. Those who are swaying decide who becomes the president of the United States. So it’s strange to see how Lai Yixiang sees it. When hundreds of thousands of people decide, in fact, it was probably decided in 2004 during the election of George W. Bush and Al Gore. There are only about 300 people left to win or lose , so the election in the United States is really delicate. But in fact, I think this debate is already better than the last time, because last time everyone felt that to be honest, it seemed that everything was one-sided by Trump. This time, I think Man Pingping’s point is that I think this debate will highlight one thing. The standard of our debate is still relatively high. The standard of our Taiwan presidential debate is really... I think it’s very An opportunity to lie more or spread lies, including the part about dogs and cats. I think this is the most interesting because at the time... You have to know that immigration is the main issue in this election debate. If you ask Trump anything, he will always say It tends to go back to the issue of immigration , so he said, you see, immigration is terrible. Illegal immigrants, especially immigrants from Haiti, came to our simple town in Ohio and ended up stealing and eating their dogs and cats. Then the host at the time said He said that we asked the city officials and it seemed that there was no such thing. Trump said that I saw it on TV... so it seems that there must be such a thing. When you looked at He Jinli's expression at that time, He Jinli's expression was very subtle. He was Laugh , but I think the message He Jinli wants to convey is to say, look, this group of people is indeed a little divorced from the facts . But in the second part , you can actually see that this time, I think it will only deepen the political parties’ understanding of each other. Regarding support for candidates from your own camp , look at the CNN poll just mentioned. CNN's poll is 63 to 37 , but it is true that the majority of CNN's viewers are from the Democratic Party . But if you look at the Republican Fox News , more than 90% of the people think that Trump won . Only 4 people think that Harris won, so that is to say The political differences between the two sides of the United States are indeed very deep. Going back to the debate itself, the issues discussed this time. I just talked about the first immigration. Trump has been talking about immigration. I think He Jinli said something very good. She said that we In the past, Congress did pass an immigration amendment bill. This immigration bill would add thousands of so-called immigration enforcement officers to our borders in the United States to curb the trend of these illegal immigrants. Why did you want to veto it? Why did Trump fight at that time? I told these Republican senators and representatives that you must oppose it for political reasons. So I think Trump should have won the debate on the immigration issue, but then it was tied. The second one is the so-called abortion issue. In fact, Harris He was among them. It 's really good . After all, he is also a woman. After all, he has actually experienced a lot of this in the past . He mentioned that my friends around me all have abortion-related problems or medical problems. He talks about it from a personal emotional level. I think this question is the winner , and the third one is the economic part. I think Harris did not answer that well because Trump kept talking about inflation being so high. When I left office, I thought the economy was very good. The result given to you by the situation is that you let inflation reach 21. In fact, it is about 9 or 10. But I think He Jinli did not answer the question of inflation very clearly , but the key point is this. I think it is a whole discussion. This discussion is like this. He Jinli ended up with this. At the end, what he expressed was that I hope that our United States can turn another page , that we can get past these political differences, these hatreds, etc., and we can look to the future. Trump made it very clear at the conclusion that the United States is now If you vote for Harris in the recession , you will continue to let the United States decline. If you want to prevent the United States from declining again, you have to vote for Trump . So I think the two people’s visions for the country are completely different. But in the end, I will only talk about the effect of the polls. I think this time The polls probably won't be so different. The committee member just mentioned that it's about 5, 3 to 5... I think 1 to 2 is pretty good , but it's true that the outcome of the final election in the United States may differ by just 1 to 2. It's true that He Jinli is in What he showed in this debate is that first, he will debate. He was the attorney general of California in the past , but second, he will not be afraid of Trump’s debate method , so he stands up to defend the issues he cares about. I think it is beneficial to his people. In fact, there are bonus points because He Jinli was a senator. Are you saying that senators can't speak? It's impossible , especially those senators in the United States. In fact, there are two major issues. In addition to the economy , the economy is of course the top priority. In addition to the economy, one is What is good for Trump is immigration, and what is good for Harris is abortion. In fact, these two can be very emotional when talking about it. In addition, in the next stage of the China issue , when we talk about the China issue, it is also about who is good to China. Trump is the first one. At the beginning of the debate, we proposed who is good to China and who is afraid of China. Who is a good friend of Xi Jinping ? Let’s take a break and come back. Trump said that although CNN said that He Jinli won , Trump said that I performed well in this game. Who can perform better than me? I am the best. Who is she? He Jinli is a little more confident this time. Come on, let’s debate again in October. How about another debate? The president has debated three times. Biden has debated once. This is our second time. There is also a Trump debate. President Trump said that I have to think about whether to debate whether I want to consider it, so it seems quite interesting. Also, when it comes to Taiwanese chips, He Jinli said that you sell them to Trump, and you sell American chips to China for military purposes. Trump said, what do I sell? Taiwan's Economic Minister Kuo Chi-hui said that no matter who among them is elected, it will not affect our economic and trade policies. Whoever said this is just whistling to embolden people. In addition, the United States passed a Taiwan Conflict Deterrence Act in the House of Representatives yesterday. Everyone in the House of Representatives passed it. So as long as they This week is called China Week of Resistance. Anyway, anything that resists China will pass. It is very interesting , for example, drones, because drones are now sold in the United States for more than 50 units. In the future, many places will not be able to buy drones. In addition, you cannot buy batteries from mainland China. There are many batteries. Funds are not allowed to invest in mainland China . Anyway, this week ’s biotechnology and biosafety bill has five pharmaceutical companies that have close ties with the Chinese Communist Party . Basically, you are not allowed to deal with them, etc. So it seems that they are all suppressing China. Especially the most interesting thing is The Taiwan conflict deters the mainland. If it attacks Taiwan, it will freeze the assets of senior mainland officials and make them public. I think this should have some effect. That is to say, the mainland did not mention which senior officials are and what senior officials or above they are, including their children, because they may be in Is it right to have assets overseas? So where is all their family’s money ? It’s not just the money in the United States, it ’s all the money in the world. The United States has to announce it to them. So the United States is very powerful. It means that you are around the world. Don’t think that you exist. What else exists in Singapore ? I don’t know where the country is, Switzerland, the UK, and the Americans. Everyone knows what the Americans mean. I know everything . I’ll announce it all to you. Now I won’t announce it to you because I want to save your face , right? I won’t tell you if you go to attack Taiwan, so I’ll announce it all. Then I even freeze it to see if you are afraid. I think this may have some effect... In addition, because mainland officials are very corrupt, they will put their money wherever they put it. Many of the children of high-ranking officials are also studying abroad or even not returning to the mainland. We have all heard that There are many such stories. In addition, they need to strengthen cooperation with Taiwan and the Pacific Island Forum . In addition, Lai Qingde said that we should hold up the democratic umbrella to protect democracy. Then Lin Jialong also said that deterring the Chinese Communist Party from invading Taiwan is effective. The Democratic Progressive Party Legislative Yuan caucus also said that it is a new consensus in the world. The new consensus is to support Taiwan and resist the Chinese Communist Party. Li Yanxiu is talking about diplomacy. Don't speculate in the short term and don't bet randomly. So there are many things to say. Because the United States has the national interests of the United States , the Republic of China has the national interests of the Republic of China . How can the old Communist Party talk about it? The old Communist Party said that Lai Qingde is stubborn in insisting on Taiwan's independence. The Taiwan Affairs Office of the People's Republic of China will never tolerate appeasement of the mainland. The cross-strait leadership has always been with the mainland , not with us. Let’s take a look //// The Democratic and Republican parties jointly launched the Taiwan Conflict Deterrence Act. If China chooses to attack Taiwan, the U.S. Treasury Department will disclose the illegal assets of Beijing’s senior officials in accordance with the law and not only publicly name them. Shaming corrupt officials and freezing assets in the United States, the House of Representatives passed without objection. It not only deters the Chinese Communist Party. The Taiwan House of Representatives is scheduled to review the bill this week, which can be called China’s Week. It includes preventing the election of spies, banning DJI’s export and sales of new drones to the United States , and more than 25 anti- China's bills are all exactly lined up. The DPP authorities stubbornly insist on Taiwan 's independence . Since Lai Ching-te came to power , he has challenged the one-China principle and colluded with external forces to continuously create tensions in the Taiwan Strait and continue to use force to seek independence. Since the DPP authorities came to power, Taiwan's defense budget has been rising year by year. Accelerating the transformation of Taiwan into a powder keg and mine island has made the Taiwanese people worried. I am warning Lai Qingde that the authorities' attempt to use force to seek independence and rely on foreign countries to seek independence is completely overestimating their own capabilities . Minqin brother President Jiang's heavy sword has no edge and is ingenious. Of course, this is not the case. Of course, there were many confrontations during the debate and review. He Jinli was really impressive because before her, everyone thought that she talked a lot of empty words and she had no room for expression. However, the production team of House of Cards, House of Cards, the American and Korean versions, all are very Success now even has a Spanish version, so the production team is very strong . She is actually very similar to Mrs. Thatcher. She transformed from a grocery store daughter into a speaker . Her speech is sonorous and powerful , so this tells us that leaders can be trained. Jinli Harris can be educated. This time , of course, it is impressive. CNN anchor Chris Wallace said that this time it was a devastating debate. In June, it was Trump who destroyed Biden. This time, it was Jinli Harris who destroyed Trump. It was indeed devastating. Tireless, the election is ruined and ruined like this , but generally speaking, throughout the entire election process, everyone has seen that the fixed states will not change. What everyone is asking is, who will win? Whether it is the New York Times or the Washington Post, they all Talk about 30 voters watching this debate because they are all pretty much in the swing states, there are two... There are only three places where there are ties, two wins and two losses, actually they are evenly divided, there are more polls showing yesterday. In the evening, both camps spent 2 billion to over 1 billion dollars in Pennsylvania to grab Pennsylvania. Among the seven swing states, Pennsylvania has nearly 19 electoral votes, which is the most. Whoever gets Pennsylvania will almost win. The key to the swing states is, of course, everyone is asking. We are all watching the excitement to see who will win. Let me show you. Everyone is asking what the seven states in the swing states think of this debate . This is interesting, either CNN or the New York Times have done it. An immediate survey among the seven states so far seems to be about 7 to 3 that they think He Jinli performed better than the original one, 4 to 3 ... I didn’t say that percentage. If it is a 10-point comparison, it is 70 that He Jinli is better than the original one. He performed better than Trump, which of course seems to be helpful to He Jinli, but the focus is still on ourselves. In addition to the debate, there is another news today . There is a listed company in Taiwan called Jingguo that shut down its factory without warning. More than 400 people were laid off. The market immediately dropped to the limit after the market opened. We only have factories in mainland China left. So it can be seen that in the future, whether it is Harris Harris or Trump comes to power, Taiwan will face a more severe situation in the future because of the trade war between the United States and China, tariffs, and this intellectual property. This war on intellectual property rights will become more and more intense. Every country has its own advantages. What about us? The election in the United States is indeed very, very thrilling. No one can say for sure. If someone tells you that He Jinli will definitely win or Trump will definitely win. I'm afraid I've thought too much about it because the gap between them is about the same. So I think the last thing I want to look at is He Jinli 's own opinion this time. She actually came prepared when she talked about the economy. Please watch the whole process carefully. Her opening remarks were all about "I have a plan. What is my plan..." Note that the host later asked Trump, " Don't interrupt her all the time . What do you have?" He said, "I don't have a plan because I'm not one yet." You are the president of the United States ... How can you be so blind? So Trump is using this old Trump method to try to randomly deceive people . Jinli He is indeed well prepared this time. To be fair, I think He Jinli performed much better than Trump. Between the Trump-Bailey debate two months ago and the current Trump-Heli debate, you will feel that the situation has changed. Two months ago, Trump laughed at Biden as he was old and weak. Two months later, He Jinli replaced Jinli He and laughed at Trump . When I saw that photo just now, I remember that during the debate between Trump and Biden , the host also put up two photos of Trump and Biden. He thought Biden was so senile. Then the photo just now changed to Trump being so senile. Some people described Trump as "old and senile". Harris was equivalent to the rematch between Trump and Hillary in 2016. Hillary actually won the popular vote by a huge margin, winning more than 2 million votes , but lost the electoral vote. This highlights the difference between the American electoral system and ours. It's different. You won the voters , but you didn't win the right state. Your electoral votes didn't win the right place. But in the end, he still lost this election. But I saw it today. A statistic from the New York Times shows that in the past eight years, for the first time in the college population, the college education of working women has exceeded the college education of men. This may also highlight to a certain extent that feminism or the role of women is becoming more and more important in the United States. So this time, will He Jinli reverse Hillary’s regrets ? I think it’s quite exciting now because I originally thought that Trump might really be the chosen one this time , especially since he dodged that bullet. But now it seems that I think this American election is very exciting. Of course, from the last election of Trump to the election of Trump this time, the two elections have one thing in common. Everyone is comparing who hates China more and who is more hostile to China. Tough , so during the commercial break, Commissioner Yu Fang was joking that it would be uncomfortable for China if any of them were elected. Then I would say that it would be uncomfortable for China and Taiwan, because they all use Taiwan to make the mainland uncomfortable , so Taiwan will always change. Becoming a pawn of the United States is what we are most worried about. Whether it is Trump or Harris, they will talk fiercely when they are elected. But once they are elected, they will fight but not break up, and they will be different. They still have to cooperate and then quarrel. But They will still compromise on certain things. Taiwan will always be a chess piece. Unfortunately, an illusion fell into the sea yesterday. Fortunately, the pilot survived. Everyone was worried that the pilot would be difficult to save if it crashed at night. Fortunately, he was rescued. What happened? Let's take a rest. return