The Media Destroyed Me I Anthony Scaramucci and Maggie Haberman I Open Book

I mean one of the reasons why I got on the wrong side of him was my feelings about the Press you know and by the way I think I have licens I've been I've been lit up by the Press I've been grinded by late night comedy I actually don't care I think it's part of the process if you're going to go into politics and so you know I wrote an oped saying that the Press is not the enemy of the people it was in the hill in April of 2019 he went ballistic on me um and told me I was no longer on his team which that was fine but the question I have for you is why why is he still all you're reporting the most recent report today where you know you're writing in the New York Times today that he knows that the election wasn't rigged and he knows that he lost the election we all know that he knows that and yet he perpetuates this lie why are people still cow to and supporting him why is there no backbone leadership why didn't McCarthy and and McConnell and others say hey you know what this is absolutely wrong and why is it really just his political base and his power is that the reason I mean are there no principles and there's no courage at all to stand up for this wrongheaded and illegal behavior um do you watch KB Your Enthusiasm are you a Larry David person I I do yes how could you not I mean remember I'm I'm a New Yorker Jews and Italians see the world very Sim way yeah there's there there's there's an there's an episode where he uh has a cast member from the show Survivor and a holocaust Survivor at at a dinner I think it might have been a Sedar and they're they're yelling at each other and fighting and somebody knocks over um a glass of wine and red wine and it gets all over the tablecloth and Larry David's mother-in-law says somebody get a sponge and she just sits there and says somebody get a sponge and he says why don't you get a sponge and to me that is how so many people have approached Donald Trump is someone else will be the person who deals with him I don't have to but someone will and so in the case of McCarthy yes it's about the base it's about McCarthy's own Ambitions we talked about ambition before in terms of all you know various officials you talked about it for yourself um McCarthy has wanted to be house speaker for as long as I can remember and so he and he and he almost had it once before and lost it because of an uprising from the right and you know I think that also his own behavior you know his own behavior caught him he's also you know you know he got caught on hadity you know interview explaining the Diabolical nature of what they did to Hillary Clinton things like that I mean you know look Kevin was a friend of I consider Kevin a friend he's spoken at the salt conference you could see me on his donor list I think that uh people like him and stefanic they've totally morphed themselves they've disfigured themselves uh for some reason you know I guess it's you you really learn not to be overly syndal but you really learn what people are about out in politics when they when they do these things but let's talk about you for a second okay have you ever had a relationship with anybody that you've covered like the relationship that you have with Donald Trump okay you know L there's antipathy in the relationship but there's a bizarre attraction of Donald Trump to you almost like you know the New York Times or whatever it might be to get their support or to put a charm offensive on you or the New York Times you know he's calling you at all hours of the night ever had a relationship like that I so I reject the term relationship because it suggests some kind of give and take he's a figure who I cover um I have never experienced a figure I cover who is so uniquely obsessed with the Press I like that by the way I'm gon I'm an interject ver I do like that because I shouldn't have said relationship I should have said interaction because people that tell me they're friends of Donald Trump I'm like you're not friends with Donald Trump okay right Donald Trump doesn't really he doesn't really he doesn't really have friends and so number one and number two I okay let me rephrase it then so you're have you ever had interactions with him like this no because I've never I mean look he no he is uniquely obsessed with the New York Times and a lot of and that's what it's about with me just to be clear you know he is obsessed with the paper to a degree that I have never seen in any official you know if anybody wants to understand how he feels about the nework times go back and listen to an episode of The New York Times podcast the daily from February 2019 where he's having this back back and forth with our publisher Ag salsberg and AG is literally talking about really important issues like hey your language is being used by despots around the globe to crack down on press freedoms and Trump keeps saying I think I'm entitled to a good story from my paper and that really tells you all you need to know about how he sees things um versus you know how the Free Press sees things and he just doesn't understand what the Free Press does he has no clue I asked him during that same meeting what what he thinks our role is and I think he said to cover things accurately and fairly which is you know what we what that's our objective but that's not why we exist and so um so no I I've never experienced anything like this and also you know look he's not the first person to get upset about my coverage Anthony you know Rudy Giuliani used to yell at us in the in the Blue Room at City Hall all the time when I was covering him as mayor um and he was I mean you can't be in the NFL I mean just terrible tragedy that happened in the NFL but you're in the NFL and you get a concussion okay you're in the NL I mean you know you you're in politics you're going to get concussed by the journalist okay just the way it happens