Sunday September 8th and the Dome Pomers podcast is back and I'm your host Christian Krueger and joined by my boys Neil meeski and Brian dorton and we're just lifelong Astros fans that love to talk about the Astros so boys let's go [Music] the Dome fers podcast is back we are here for episode 65 most you listeners be like what's the point of that well for us there actually is our vaunted lovely cleancut Irishman yes used to used to used to wear the number 65 I believe that's retired didn't they retire that I mean it's retired in our hearts it's retired in our hearts our minds and everywhere else so you're good don't put that voodo on anybody else so here so here we here we are and let's just recap it the Astros are actually 77 and 65 playing currently right now and uh it's not looking good we'll talk about that here in a minute two and I guess this would be two and four for the week if if they lose tonight after a great week we go a not good week we sweep the Royals last week we get swept by the Reds have a sh chance to sweep the Diamondbacks who's a good team and we decide to roll out Justin berlander which I've said before man talk about non-competitive worthless piece of you know what so since he's since he's been back uh and then I'll I'll kick it to our regular temper temperature check since he's been back he's 0 and3 with a s ER before tonight and he's given up eight runs in three Innings so that's going to go up boy that's going to be a topic for the podcast tonight Neil how's the temperature Jack yeah um I mean the Cincinnati series was a dud the the one thing that I don't even know if I I guess I may have sent it I saw it somewhere I don't know if I sent it to y'all uh we haven't beaten Cincinnati since 2016 yeah crazy since since before we won a World TS thank you yeah so since 2016 I mean we we have continued to make the um you know ALCS so if if L getting swept by Cincinnati means that well then rock and roll Tech and roll uh I'll take it because well just a throwback real quick as we grew up they were in the Astros for a while were in their division yeah the NL Central Y and um I mean we you know well just going back to the Barry Lin Chris Sabo Eric Davis those days um but yes anyways bill bill bill Dorne he did go over there so anyways yeah I mean not not real exciting Billy D on Q we're in the yeah I just I just for all you listeners out there who aren't I was cleaning out a uh a a drawer earlier today and I was gonna bust this out at an opportune time and you you just served it up you Ser it up and I was gonna put it on at an opportune time because I figured that some something was gonna come up and good God you you brought it up within the first couple of minutes wow so this is my new pen that I'll be wearing most most uh podcasts and it is a uh Bill Bild Doran pen and uh I I I have no idea I got it some somewhere along it is it's probably 35 years old you you you probably got it that time we were going to an Astros game when we pulled over to the convenience store and met Craig William Craig Reynolds mom he was probably handing those out I mean who knows who knows who knows who know that wasn't the time the SWAT Team all pulled out that was that a different trip when the SWAT team I I think I think that was different okay anyway so yes so the Cincinnati series that that pretty well sucked uh looked like for a moment we we might uh you know sweep sweep the U Diamond Backs and yeah JV I'll save thoughts on that so you know again we're we're in a little bit of a survival let's get to the end mode I still holding out some hope that we can put something together and make a charge at Cleveland for that two spot I mean that's really where I'm at I think we're four games behind them if I'm not mistaken um so I I'm I'm in the uh it's a little disappointing but also in the same breath here we are you know leading the division by four maybe five games when tonight end so uh normally I'm a good not great this is a okay not good I mean I'm in between somewhere in there all right dordan fire away um pretty uh pretty disappointed in the red series um I but I have an easy blame uh H first of all having Bagwell in the booth was I I knew that was coming up I mean it was it was the most it was one of the most painful things to listen to I mean it was worth muting and listening to kind of the staggered radio broadcast or trying to like maybe even like listen to the I I've I tried to even stream the radio broadcast and like uh like pause it and try and like line it up as as as well as I could but like it was awful he's terrible he's terrible in the booth you know I love this you know I love disagreeing with you just like you do me I cannot disagree with word he is awful he's terrible in the booth and I don't understand why he's in there and you know he has he he G he has no upside he he doesn't he doesn't add anything he doesn't add any insight and um and I'm gonna go ahead and blame that entire series on him being in that Booth so you're blaming blumber for being gone I'm not blaming blumber for being gone dirty homeless Blum can can take a series off I I would have I would have rather Julia be in the in the booth whoa to be honest whoa no whoa 100% better than Bagwell 100% look look I I wouldn't go that far she's pretty freaking bad well and we love her I mean we love huge fan I'm a I love her as the sideline sports reporter No Doubt yeah well so uh yeah things things didn't go well in Cincinnati obviously um but you know it is what it is uh we Mac was in town my dad was in town for the past couple of nights we had an opportunity to go to the first two games of the series and I think Mac sprinkled a little bit of uh of magic Mac Mac dust on the team while he was there and we saw the bats come alive we saw some incredible pitching so it's his fault and your fault that y through t i cleans that up well he did have to go back to the the wonderful Metropolis of Tyler selfish but uh yeah like we you know it was an like these those these two games were incredible um yeah they were and uh got to come English got to come yesterday so he he he gets a little bit of credit for yesterday's wi um so I I will say this uh the bats were alive yordon was hitting the ball like it made fun of him in grade school I mean he the the the two hit the two runs that the the the two bombs that he hit on Friday so the first one was in the second deck that I I it was one of those ones that as soon as soon as it was hit everyone in the stadium knew that it was gone the right fielder had his hand you know like kind of nonchalantly is standing there with his hand on his hips and crack of the bat the guy didn't to his credit the guy didn't blinch it was pretty incredible like he didn't even look up he did did not blinch didn't move he stayed there like a statue and the ball went about 200 feet above and beyond his his head it was incredible and then the second home run was when I say laser I was like oh that's going to be a that's that's going to be an incredible double you know it's going to hit the wall at about 400 miles an hour and it just stayed at however tall that wall is plus two in it stayed at that height from the bat somehow somebody somebody took a bullet yeah I went back and watched it because I wasn't watching it live and you were texting and I saw that was a freaking laser it was an absolute I was like there's no way that's going out there's no chance that's going out but it's that was that was it was he crushed it but it's not going out and it just kept it didn't it it didn't have a downward trajectory well it's called have it it's called Vel it's called velocity off the bat I mean it was one it was 112 off the bat yeah it was 112 off the bat there you go smoke so so kind of like what we've seen tonight just for the other team yeah wait just one guy from the other team by the way well what's your more do your temper let's do your temperature check you well yeah I mean so so I think I think Verlander is by far in away on on a huge Struggle Bus and if I hear one more time this is you know like the the the legend that is Verlander get you got to give him a little bit of no don't you got to give him his his legendary you know he knows himself he's 40 years old he knows himself more than anyone else does no I'm sorry right like you you can't leave that guy out there with Bases Loaded anymore and go out there and talk to him and when he says I got this expect him to be able to pitch his way out of it it is now a managerial decision to say got it I understand that you're going to be a Hall of Famer and I'm not a Hall of Famer but this is my team that I'm managing yep get your a on the bench and we're trying to win a Ser we're trying to win this series we're trying to get to the playoffs we're trying to win a World Series get on the bench and and you are actively harming this at this point that's a I mean dorton basically dorton basically said everything that I want to say in dorton terms which I love my issue is it's even worse than I thought we're not even competitive you take a blink of the eye we're down four nothing and then you take another blink of the eye and we're down eight nothing and we have bregman and Tucker in the lineup for the first time with yordon and hit theall and we're we we're down eight nothing before the in two innings it is non-competitive he has nothing left I don't want to hear it anymore I don't want to hear it I don't hear we're hitting the ball it's 10 to five yeah but we're down eight zero in the second inning exactly that that's what I'm trying to say we're hitting the ball we're the offense is doing their part but when you leave a guy in for for for no I'm with you no no no no no no he should have been pulled been pulled with the Bas loaded no he shouldn't have he should never be on the mound we are starting a guy that is completely noncompetitive so I'm going to give real numbers here this is not CK juicing this thing before tonight before Theon night we he was in three starts coming back from his sleeping on his neck wrong he had a 675 ER so this was his fourth start fourth start okay do you think that number went up or went down yeah you're probably looking at a nine erra I don't know I haven't done I haven't looked at the math but I know for a fact on the broadcast beforehand his last three starts his three stars being back was a 675 year end oh I mean all all of all of those he he gave up eight in those are earned all of those are earned 100% those are all earned I don't know we're looking at maybe a 9 I don't know I don't have the numbers in front of me how I know this that it's non-competitive and before we can hit our second time hold on let's be clear here for the listeners because you dord you even said it earlier You're Gonna Hear Legend Hall of Fame 2022 World Series I'm sorry dude that's done before we came up our second time tonight we were down 8 Z and this is the second Mound visit so here here's my issue is there there's I know that I know that bothers you and it bothers me too I'm with you yeah there's a mound visit we're to a point there should even be a mound visit because he shouldn't be penciled in the in in the rotation that's he should it's not it's non-competitive so who is it so who hold on okay Krueger five man rotation okay but Krueger all right are is is Joe asata gonna put ver Justin Verlander in the bullpen no get him the the con get him the conies it's not gonna happen you know it's not gonna happen you know I know it's not gonna happen we all know it's not gonna happen keep in mind who also be pulling that trigger may not be Joe 100% Fair no yeah yeah that's I mean when I say Joe is sp I mean Joe is sp at all Jo lineup yes we know we all know it's a Joe spot at all right it is whoever else is in his ear unfortunately that it is Jo a spot a with committee I I guess I mean it's not going to surprise me at this point if we wake up [Music] tomorrow and there's some there's some diagnosis on Verlander what do you mean by that oh you mean yeah you mean he got he got he got hurt yeah there's gonna be something I mean that's not going to surprise me his last four starts have been in embarrassing right and so you know yes somebody's going to say what about arag Getti he gave up nine yes he did but he he was also he was also a you know he's also shown for the month of what August that uh you know he did long he did longer than one month but you are correct he had a great month of August so and and I'm not saying I'm I'm not basically what I'm saying is I don't know what you do with Verlander but you surely can't sit there and feel good about pitching them you surely can't feel great you know and I said last week that if nothing else he gives you the opportunity to give guys days off and and maybe that turned out to be in that 18 game stretch and now we're not into that so I I don't know what you do with them if this is the quality that you're going to get you can't continue to roll that out there well this is this and correct this is this is the this is the old I don't know what you call it story of the legendary pitcher who could grind Killer Instinct great stuff who thinks he still has it and 94 down the middle is not 99 down the middle and he doesn't he doesn't have it he doesn't have command he doesn't have the same stuff and look father time is undefeated and um we are non-competitive we were non-competitive last week against the Reds it was as bad as this week but every time he pitches now we get behind and we get down and tonight is an absolute destruction and I mean tonight was to the point tonight was to the point where I mean like here here's here's Altuve hit you know with a leadoff double I mean we've got five runs on the we've got crooked numbers on the board like and we are still not even close to being in this game no I know eight runs in three Innings and it was really eight runs in two innings because he didn't allow any runs in the third inning so it was really eight runs and two swings and also hey don't Hey listen don't tell me that don't tell me that you didn't say the he hit the chicken I think he gets a freaking sandwich or something in in your head hit the bull I think he gets the freaking steak or something eight eight hits eight hits in in eight and eight earned runs in three Innings so here's here's what we're gonna dovetail this into because look Tucker's back Tucker's not he's not 100% he's not he's not playing The Outfield um so I don't even know he's swing hey he's swinging the bad hard though I will say I will say that has he got a hit has he got a hit yet uh so he's gotten he's he's gotten hit he has gotten on base and he has gotten a sack fly okay no but I mean he got a hit since been back I don't think he's got hit no he hadn't got he got he hadn't gotten a hit but he has been productive he's not 100% though we don't need we don't need him getting hit and we need him driving the baseball that's what's going to make us well that's what I'm saying he he drove the baseball today for the first time and it was a it was a line drive it out is what it was yeah I'm not he doesn't look 100% to me but whatever he's back um I I I don't know um I don't know if he's gonna play The Outfield in the playoffs I really don't if we make the playoffs which I think we should I mean we'll talk about that in a minute he's he's not I I have an interesting take I have an interesting uh question about that here in just okay well let's stay let's stay real quick on the Verlander stuff so now uh two podcasts ago we talked about our playoff rotation I am um I you know meski I didn't do the total uh how many games we have left I know we're probably inside uh 20 right I think tonight makes us inside 20 games I don't know our magic number is 15 we're not going to probably lower that because the Mariners won and we are going to lose likely and so we'll be four and a half back so so my question is it's looking like we're going to play a three- game series right now um because we're going to be the three seed hopefully um you know right now it's against the twins but it's only difference of like two games so that could change I think it's a no-brainer in a three- game series he's not going to pitch so the question then becomes if we're for enough to win I mean you cannot will this guy out in a five game series you can't yeah it's it's the I mean right now right now he has he has dropped from my rotation so has he dropped from englishes has he dropped from englishes uh so he sent me a text earlier and I'll I'll uh hold on I'm going to I'm going to quote him directly so that I don't get this one wrong um for for the listeners this is one of this is one of Brian's buddies who is a huge Dome foamer who I who I like I like uh talking ball with we all do and I'm just asking but I mean I don't know how you do it and the question then becomes uh so all right here it is here it is right is he is he going to take a roster spot I I I kind of believe I here here's Brian's take and I I'll I'll I'll stand behind this I mean I was willing to give the benefit of the doubt but if you can't turn it around then we're in trouble but you know we're not putting him in the pen yeah so does he take a roster spot I mean yes you know he is gonna we're not putting him in the pen but you said it you said it earlier is are we putting berlander in the bullpen okay listen to me all right all right let's back up the first series is a three- game series if we're the if we're the three seed against the currently against the twins right he's not on the roster oh you you think they're gonna leave him off the roster every series you can adjust the playoff roster yeah why do you need him for a three- game series why so so they'll they'll they won't put him in the bullpen but they'll leave him off the roster for a three- game series yeah hey go go get fixed go do a bullpen whatever he doesn't why I want to win the series why does he need to be on a three- game series roster he's not gonna pitch I mean he definitely won't pitch in a three- game series then why is he on the roster is he going to hit is he going to play Third Base he you shouldn't be on the playoff roster and then once that series is over you then let's say the Astros advance and then they they go to the division series which is a five game series then you have to you get to make a new you get to you know turn in a new playoff roster I think it's too early to call because I don't mean we're fixing to have a so we're off tomorrow and then we play nine 13 we play 16 games in a row he's going to pitch oh I know I know I yeah I know you're right he will I'm just talking about playoff roster but no he's absolutely going to which which just just make out an l i last week we were talking about predictions was we were all way off right but I said Sunday is a loss because Verlander starting and I think we all we all kind of kind of nodded your too like you're like you know what I mean well I didn't think it was going to be this bad but it actually dead on like count Sunday as a loss because he's starting and I know we kind of say that tongue tongue and Chek but it's time to stop saying tongue and cheek and just realize he's it's non-competitive what it be telling is this okay so I'm I'm looking at this kind of live or whatever so if we do this six-man rotation which they said they were okay okay so it shows that he's going to pitch in Los Angeles against the Angels okay okay and then it says his next one will be at home versus The Angels so two games against the angels and what one and yeah one more start probably the last series against Cleveland so that's that's what's going to be in my mind somewhat telling clearly the the two starts in between but does does I mean where are we and when it comes down to this last series against Cleveland it'll be interesting it'll be interesting to see it play out if we have you know if we're two games behind Cleveland and we can sweep Cleveland is he pitching that th those are going to be some things to you know worth watching as that as time advances on can I ask a question sure we we've clinched the West at that point let's say yes which is probably likely if we're chasing Cleveland down correct what's Seattle doing tonight they already won so so we're we're going to be four and a half wonderful which is not four and a half is do doable oh gosh you can get caught with four and a half especially with the three- game series against them yes 100% yes yeah this this game was not all right my point being is we lost the game before we start through the first pitch like yeah if you're in if you're in a division race how are you allowing that to happen so my question then is who is in his place or you're saying over these next 16 games you you would go a five You' do a fiveman rotation everyone else is competitive e even though it could be detrimental to you towards the end like towards playoffs how how what do you mean I mean you're just talking about arti pitching more Innings yeah I mean Aaron mean they've are I mean I don't see them I don't see them pushing back one day is going to matter right now you see what I'm saying yeah so like if you push them back one day is you've already passed what you probably want to throw Aon Getty no doubt you've already pushed Blanco back what he wanted to push him no doubt hell Brown is passed but he also passed last year so he's at least has a track record I mean I I don't see pushing one day they're still getting four days rest um they'll compete this has been a non-competitive start it's been it was non competitive last week it just wasn't as bad as this week so yes Neil to your point we have an all tomorrow so I would go I would go fiveman rotation all right okay yeah I don't know I mean I it's it's there's not a lot of things that say rolling back out there but I mean I mean a dude by the name of paven Smith went off the chicken like dorton said yeah I mean who is p only paven I know is Cory paven he probably could have hit a run home run off of him tonight too like no no hold on paven Smith went off the chicken for a grandong no no solo shot no no no no the grand dog went in the Crawford boxes did he hit that too yes he's hit three same guy hey he's hit three tonight I don't never heard of the guy that just tell I mean it tells you grandong two run and a solo shot he's a he's a three-run home run away from hitting the cycle and home run I I don't know that's his his first home run was a three-run home run off the chicken I'm just because I was watching oh well then he's a two-run home run away from hitting the because he had a grandong his next at bat so bad his next at bat was a grand slam so I know I saw I didn't know it was him that hit it I I I saw the ball l in the Crawford boxes and I did this power off he came up and hit another one but no one no one no one worth a damn just pavin Smith who we've never heard of got it yeah I mean it's just one of those things that I I'll be surprised I mean they're going to roll him back out yeah they will it's GNA be against the angels and if hope it doesn't cost him the freaking Division I and I hope it doesn't hurt him that's exactly right that is exactly right so it'll be uh as far as playoff rosters go yeah I think it's just too early to tell and then like I said I think we're looking at that Cleveland series to see how that space is out so so tonight Neil if um tonight makes us we have 19 games at uh left after tonight we've played we've uh we've played 142 tonight will be game 143 I think on my quick mou correct that is correct so 19 gam okay um I mean Cleveland's got us by how many games I think right now four that would be four and a half yeah yeah so all right yeah I don't know um where do you want to go next I could I could talk about that non-comp non-competitive stealing money guy all night so I I do want to talk about the idea of uh all right who did who did we start in center tonight Jaz which is interesting to me well is Myers back from having a kid he sure is he sure is he he's been he's been hitting and you know what he's been hitting uh just kind of like coming in as pinch hitter and then going in you know defense defense late in the game over the past two games which I surprised well I know they're probably they're probably using him back I don't know man I don't know it's interesting because well I mean like tonight I to see gaml and Wright to see uh McCormick in Center like okay our ver Verlander must hate Meyers like he must like hate Meyers well that's another that's this is I mean that's insane if Verlander is allowed to to dictate center field that's insane he's been dictating center field for a year and a half that's why dubon been playing there that's insane so here here's what I like our first our one through six order tonight I I'm in love with right I mean my God you know I mean like we are fully loaded fully stacked one through six ready to go uh there's another run by the Dbacks okay 11 to5 uh we are fully stacked one through six 789 all of a sudden it turns into question mark question mark question mark right can I can I can I back karantini karantini is an interesting choice at first you love number six because I don't I mean pen penny hadit a bomb yesterday that I'm not sure has landed yet well congratulations he's also batting 258 yeah but and and he and he is but he also did not make any errors this weekend okay so you like him at six I don't zero zero errors this weekend congratulations good job zero errors uh but karantini at first against a right-handed pitcher was an interesting I like karantini in I like karantini batting left-handed in the lineup I like him too no don't get me wrong I like karantini it was just an like when I saw him in the when I saw him in the lineup my first thought was oh must be a lefty pitching because uh they're not putting Big John in they're putting they're going to put they're going to try karantini in there like that's that's what's going on that was my first thought because I didn't know I I didn't see who was pitching right and when I then then when I saw you know who was pitching I was like oh wow okay yeah we're we're just yeah we're just going to put karantini in like this is that I don't know what are your thoughts there I don't love I mean I I I love one through five I don't love one through six I don't okay that's fine I know I know your thoughts on Pena but like let's go let's go let's go let's go first base Center and right field right now first center and right um M cor's got two hits tonight uh hit a bomb he had a bomb the other day he been on The Struggle Bus no doubt big time Big Time and he went over he went over for Friday night in hug situation huge situations he's got sent down and he got he got sent back up because of paternity and whatever else um I mean but I have no problem him or Myers hitting ninth I I've always said like Myers needs to hit ninth and I've got no problems I like dubie at nine I love dubie at nine well Dub's got a jam thumb or SLE wrong on his neck I don't know we don't know um I don't know man there's something about gaml that I like there there is something about him he's not flashy yeah um he can run got a freaking Cannon he he has got a cannon and since he's been an astro he's hitting almost 300 so there's been some production he doesn't do anything flashy um you know he's probably as we get down the road and into the playoffs hopefully he'll probably be a defensive replacement late in the Innings and a pinch and I'm okay with that I just don't know hopefully Tucker will be out there and he's a Tucker's not ready to play well not right now I mean the idea is the idea is but I'm not I'm not sure I don't know if we're going to get there anytime soon I really don't which means then yordon has to play left which I don't love either so I like karantini hitting left-handed yep um I like gamble in there and you know if Myers and McCormack want a platoon with duon or dubon be a replacement somewhere else I mean I'm I'm good with that they all hit right-handed so it's kind of like a trifecta I I know people are going to say let's see more Singleton I mean I'm I'm done like I don't need to see him anymore I'm still not John I'm still not done with John oh I'm done I mean okay so let me so we kind of talking about the order a little bit so you still have I mean in Friday was the first first day um to where we we I'm looking at so we no we didn't have them so let's let's assume first game of the playoffs talk to me about talk to me about the order you got Altuve Alvarez Tucker I would are we split you're going to go Diaz then Tucker you going to go bre where where does bregman fit into now that Tucker is back what what are we doing how are we breaking these guys up I mean does it go Altuve Alvarez bregman Tucker Diaz that's your five if I was Ryan lineup card if I was I'm going out to yordon Diaz because he's been our most productive hitter after yordon so I'm putting him to prot protect yord on yeah and then I'm going uh Tucker and then bregman at five okay and I wouldn't hate it if bregman was at four and Tucker was at five yeah that's kind of where I was thinking that's where I was going I I wouldn't hate that either Tucker's not 100% man he's not no I know I know and and and I'm I'm thinking in a month here's the issue to your and I know what you're thinking I agree with you the issue if you put the issue if you put Tucker at five is they will pitch around bregman and go after Tucker and if they if Tucker's back they'll pitch around him and go after the six guy so what you probably want to do is you probably want to have Tucker hit behind Diaz and have bregman sitting behind him you understand you understand what I'm saying yeah I'm I'm trying to sort through the who's and the what's and I mean obviously I don't think Tucker should hit three until he's 100% healthy I don't and I agree I and I like the fact that we can split up the righty Lefty stuff sure but it doesn't matter ton now but it does in the playoffs sure because you're gonna you're gonna have freaking fireballers coming out of the bullpit and so if if bregman is behind yordon you can't say Well they're going to pitch around yordon to get the bregman because behind I mean they're they're gonna they're not going to just keep pitching around people until they get to the six guy I don't like Diaz I don't like Diaz hitting five when he's been our second best hitter all year no I'm thinking four four I'm good there too but like tonight he was five I don't like that yeah no no no no I mean I'm I'm an Altuve Alvarez and then I'm kind of going bregman right now I'm leaning bregman then Diaz then Tucker yeah I get it that's fair um and I um I know batting average is at the end all be all but I'm gonna take the guy hitting hitting uh 300 over the guy hitting 258 you know and I'm gonna hit I'm g hit I'm gonna hit Diaz behind Alvarez and then I'm probably gonna go Tucker right left right you know left and then I'm gonna I'm gonna have I'm gonna have bregman hitting five that's what I would do and honestly if we're facing a righty I'm having kartini hit six yeah yeah and then you got Singleton you've got Pena kartini's in the lineup Singleton's not playing are you saying kartini's playing first cim orz I mean is can karantin he play first he did he did tonight he did tonight but I mean like have we seen have we seen him tested at first I mean to your point dordon not a ton but I mean I like I'm tired of John Singleton at bats like I'm just tired of him you're tired of uh timely home runs T timely home runs well John Singleton's about to come up and hit a three-run bomb I'll take that let's go let's go go what's the it well first of all it's it's it's plus 500 okay so let's your head done I still feel I still feel I still feel I still feel confident and he and if he does do it we'll still be down three we'll still be down three but we'll be down three in a much more confident way I thought you were saying you already knew he hit one oh no I don't but I'm I am watching I am watching uh I'm watching on on game day here and I've getting I'm getting some text from Christy uh Christy stepmom who's at the game and christe's watching the game over here so so let me ask let me ask you this this is my next question or or just thought after that how close is uh frer Valdez to being sa young I mean I know we got sco out there yeah I mean that's my first reaction is what and I haven't followed the last couple times what scoel I mean I have no idea yeah I mean I'm just saying like what fber Valdez is doing right now it was sick absolutely sick I he went another he went another seven inning seven two hit Innings excuse me no bet no bet no bet no no no we beted we bet we bet no no no no I already said no bet no bet I said no bet before I said no bet before anything was official no didn't I've got fromers last last seven games is five in one 1.91 ER Neil I'm with you tell me give me his give me his uh year because sa Young's on about one month and I know give 14 and six he's 14 and six 2.97 uh his whip is 1.09 how many strike 15 153 strikeouts okay so let me let read this okay six 16 and four yep ra 253 okay whip 0.95 strike strikeouts 208 there's not much not not much debate on that one yeah and that's and that's just one guy right yeah and I'm you brought that up and it's a fair point because fromers pitched his butt off and he's been been a huge cat Catalyst to what our lead has been but no he's not he's not gonna win this thing what also um how does that uh include Absolute Total mental breakdowns on the field does that I'm trying to forget about that yeah we're trying to be positive here man trying to positive here do those stats include that I gotta see I gotta I gotta see what John Singleton just did my boy my boy Chaz just uh singled singled in the left field third hit tonight my boy Chaz just singled in the left field no it's not but he did not score any run if we can get him hot that'll good for us that would be fantastic I would love it I would love to see a mid last season uh Chaz hold on I'm looking at game tracker John Singleton struck out s good got got you are you sure that's for tonight that might not be for tonight 115 bottom the bottom the eth same game yeah no oh that's the one that's yeah no no that's November November 5th no no no this we're in September Brian have you showed him your dor pin the subject this guy this guy pretty cool found it in a drawer drawer found it in a drawer this okay let's let's let's just ask this because I know where dorton's gonna go and I'm G see what Neil wants to say playoff roster let's say we're start let's say we know the answer the left-hander and we're going to face him we already know that answer remember left-hander he's toast he's like he's like the guy that played first bace before him yeah that's how bad he is versus Lefty okay I'm not gonna I'm not gonna mention his name so let's say game one against the twins they're starting a righty is he your starting first basem yes wow okay dordan yeah wow yes yes no no no here zero notada no and you're going kartini yeah I would yeah whitcom I mean is whitcom an option um I would put kartini against a righty before witam yes one 19 WRC plus verse 100 before tonight so 20% better hitter sure is I mean I'm talking kartini versus Singleton is what I was referencing there yeah oh okay okay so big John's 100 yeah it's and that's before tonight yeah what is it and is that just that's just including the batting That's not including what's the number 100 vers 119 that's just now that's not that's not breaking down anything that is just straight for this for this year yeah and that's just just just on the batting side of things yes remember I can yeah I can have karantini catch and I can have Diaz at first okay yeah I don't hate that less I much less preferred Diaz at first than I don't know I mean I mean how many games has Diaz played at first I me yeah it's not it's not a lot the few and the few times that he that he has played there hasn't been it hasn't been Stellar I'm just saying I I don't think it's likely do y all remember um John Singleton playing first and not charging a baseball oh yeah oh yeah you remember jenzo playing first and coming off the bag on a routine routine throw to him the senzo that's not even an option he's down in myor Lees right I know I'm just saying like that was that was who we were putting out there we were putting out there in place of Singleton the guy who was coming off the bag on a routine throw to first like give me Singleton every day compared to that guy well he's not an option in Sugarland I don't understand that's not even an option okay fair fair but I want I want the 20 I want the 20 I I I agree meski I want the 20% better hitter yeah I'd like to see them prepare for that then agreed all right um let's move on to this week um we're gonna is it is the game over tonight no no no gu and guess who's up who the the guy who's hit not one not two but three bombs tonight Cory paven um should we maybe not Pitch to this guy tonight just hit him hit him in the ribs um one time one time in the ribs one time all right oh haters out pitch in a while pitch in a while um all right let's wrap this bad boy up with this week predictions we have three against the A's a off tomorrow right yeah we're off tomorrow we got three theas at home yeah here uh which is which oh by the way did you see who they just called up no on on their starting staff uh Mr Brandon be oh he'll probably throw one hit one hit shut out against us the A's are truly oh my God oh my God did you do it oh no it was it wasn't it wasn't it was uh who is that Suarez Suarez just hit one through the Crawford box on hater all right so we've got here's what I got starting lineup wise I've got uh boys good game nope I've got yeah spag spaghetti Hunter Brown and fber at home versus Oakland yep I saw that do we do we know do we know who Oakland's pitching I do not and I don't care I know they're playing better ball I I I say that but they've been playing like they got like the second or third best record in the AL yeah I I get that um I'm going to predict a sweep there oh my God I know I know I'm I'm Kikuchi wins Blanco wins and Verlander I'm going five and one I think we all went five in one this week who we playing at who we playing after the A's angels angels and Cali yep I think spaghetti bounces back big time you got Hunter and fber on a roll God Neil was confident with that I'm I'm not I'm not bad my God you said wait wait you said you said you said you're we're sweeping here and then oh we're not sweeping the a okay okay go ahead so NE all right Neil said five in one I love his confidence I love it I love his blind I love his blind confidence all right d man had had had I seen something different tonight I I'd have the same type of confidence that Neil has but um I just saw a redhead hit upwards almost double digit RBIs on like three swings against us most most were against the legend most most against the The Legend ver Verlander so I'm going to I'm going to say man I'm gonna say we I gotta say we win this series like I'm gonna say we win the series so we take 2-1 and then we go to California and we take two of three there so we are four Six coming into next week coming in and then we're going down to four and four and two yeah I me sorry yeah yeah four and two sorry four and two four win four of six I think the same because I think we lose a game against the A's um JP Sears starts Tuesday we've either hit him really well or he shut us down it's a coin flip um and uh yeah I think we lose the game that Brandon belock starts I think he he comes I don't have that but but that could be updated I don't have him starting but that could change obviously I don't either I just saw that he got an activated that he got they they yeah they optioned him up we should win the series against the A's and um I would love to say we sweep the Angels there's one problem Justin V Justin Verlander starts makes a start and if he makes a start supposedly if he does we're losing and I said that last podcast I'm GNA say it every time he pitches we've got a a big L so I say we go four and two um and look I'll take it who do the Mariners play this week is the next question that's a it's time to scoreboard watch yep Padres at home that won't be easy Padres man go pods they're off tomorrow so the Mariners don't play tomorrow so then Friday they play the Nationals no no that's the Marlins uh they play Oh Rangers rangers I'm not rooting for the Rangers so um I hope they both lose correct hope they oh that's a four game so split that split that sucker nobody wins nobody loses split that sucker done two and two there just win series now this is the total win series that we always say just win series and good if we win the series if they can if they split it with the Rangers I'm good with that uh then they go to then they then they have the Yankees at home they have another three game with the Rangers and then it's us man that three game against us is gonna be great I'm looking forward to that one magic magic numbers 15 because we're going we lost tonight so it stays at 15 for those that are new to the magic number world that is an Astros that's an Astros win and a Mariners loss you deduct those numbers so for instance on Tuesday since both are off tomorrow if the Astros win and the Mariners lose that magic number goes to from 15 to 13 and that's how many of those wins or losses combined makes you clinch the division but what if we both win then the Astros get one game correct so that magic number goes to 14 correct yeah I like the win and the loss combo I prefer that I do too that that means it goes accelerates I'm gonna you know um I'm not I personally I I will leave up to you guys I personally am not going to give a dome foam player of the week because when you go two and four in September you don't deserve one Fair um i' Dober I'd do fber again that's also fine I just don't believe in giving one out I'm G keep them to myself when you go two and four in September the the bombs that yordon hit at the games games that I was at were pretty impressive nice I hey I'm never gonna say no to that he deserves the beer um I'm G also I I will also give an honorary Dum Pham [Music] oh yeah that is the that that is the Northern Illinois fight song oh where did that come from what was that all about I love it I love it bait yeah that's bait that listeners is what they call bait and it's what we're not going to we're not going to follow that didn't even that didn't even come from me which is greatness I love it um nothing dorton no no idea what you're talking about um Hey listen we were we were at baseball games all day yesterday I didn't even follow college football yesterday I lost my I lost light somehow yeah you're you're looking good bud yeah look good you looking better than you ever looked before yeah this guarantee I'm looking better than Conor wigman I uh I tell you what I didn't I didn't I didn't really even follow much of the college uh football yesterday at all and uh but College b or uh Major League Baseball was awesome man it was great that's good I thought I was uh I was all in on a real sport is Notre Dame still is Notre Dame still good I don't know what's that what is Notre Dame oh oh that cedral in France did they rebuild that no TR after burned down they that after it burned down I think I said this last on the podcast um I'm going to even enjoy it more this year than in the podcast Quinn ERS for Heisman yes I've made a futur bet on him at plus 900 and I did before the season started and he dismantled the Michigan Wolverines in the big house in the big house the big house interesting so another getting back to baseball real fast Justin berlander is this a baseball podcast just well we we do college football previews too I mean you know um Justin Verlander threw so few pitches tonight he probably for on Tuesday let's do that how about that no no pass hard pass hard pass all right let's uh and somehow I don't know what's going on can we can we turn that light back off wherever that is can we turn that back off it's time to turn out the lights part's over all right boys we'll wrap it up anything any party any parting shots no got nothing hope for a better week five and one hey go Buffs go Buffs buff go Buffs go Buffs go Buffs hey go west go go go Junior High West go Victoria West everybody's winning all all wests are winning the fighting unicorn Junior highs the fighting Oak the fighting Oak Run middle school plays their first game Tuesday eighth grade let's go against Smiths and Valley it'll be a battle let's go the Hat hated Smith Oh hated Smith they are cheater bunch of cheaters probably probably I'll tell you what Michigan does need Connor stallions back I will say that um all right boys hope everyone had a good one like share rate revieww um we'll be back next week hopefully we have a better week as meski clearly stated we're playing the A's and angels we should just as long as they don't start Justin verland boys G Strokes G Strokes ghost [Music]