Trump vs. Harris: Looking ahead to their first presidential debate

THE FIRST TIME IN THE U.S. PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN. >> WE HERE IN PHILADELPHIA WITH CLUED IN. WE'RE A POLITICAL CITY. THERE'S EXCITEMENT. >> THE STAGE IS SET FOR BOTH CANDIDATES. IT'S THE FIRST DEBATE FOR HARRIS, BUT NOT FOR TRUMP. HE TOOK PART IN THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE ON JUNE 27th HOSTED BY CNN IN ATLANTA AGAINST PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN. IT'S NOW JUST AFTER EIGHT IN PHILADELPHIA. WE'RE LESS THAN 60 MINUTES AWAY FROM THE CANDIDATES TAKING THE STAGE. JOINING US NOW, CBC NEWS CHIEF CORRESPONDENT ADRIENNE ARSENAULT IS LIVE TONIGHT FOR THE SIMULCAST OF THE DEBATE IN PHILADELPHIA. OUR COVERAGE BEGINS AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS HOUR LEADING INTO A SPECIAL EDITION OF THE NATIONAL. AND JOINING ADRIENNE FOR POSTDEBATE ANALYSIS AND INSIGHT IS U.S. CORRESPONDENT PAUL HUNTER AND WATCHING FOR US FROM WASHINGTON IS CBC'S. >> Richard: PAD. WE'LL GO TO PAUL FIRST. PAUL, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK HERE. THE RALLY CONTINUES BEHIND YOU IN THIS COUNTDOWN MODE IF YOU WILL. YOU KNOW, LESS THAN AN HOUR NOW BEFORE THE -- BOTH CANDIDATES GET TO THE PODIUM. GIVE US A SENSE NOW WHAT IS THE MOOD, CERTAINLY THERE'S MORE ENERGY PERHAPS IN THE CITY LEADING UP TO THIS DEBATE? >> Reporter: YEAH, BUT NOT QUITE WHAT YOU MIGHT THINK. THE NOISE IS REALLY STEPPED UP IN THE LAST HOUR OR SO, IT'S A PRO-PALESTINIAN RALLY MIXING NOW WITH SORT OF PRO-JESUS DEMONSTRATORS, PRO-TRUMP, ANTI-TRUMP, PRO-KAMALA HARRIS, ANTI-KAMALA HARRIS. THERE'S A TRUCK OVER THERE WITH -- GOING ON ABOUT TRUMP AND PROJECT 2025. SECURITY BARRIERS EVERYWHERE. POLICE EVERYWHERE. JUST ANOTHER TUESDAY IN PENNSYLVANIA. IN THIS POLITICAL SEASON. YOU KNOW, I HEARD THE CLIP OFF THE TOP, A WOMAN SAYING THAT PHILADELPHIA IS I DON'T KNOW, WHAT SHE SAID, DIALED IN, THAT'S WHAT IT FEELS LIKE A LOT OF THE TALK ABOUT THE DEBATE TONIGHT IS THE -- SORT OF THE ENTERTAINMENT VALUE TO BE BLUNT ABOUT IT. WHO'S GOING TO PUNCH HARDER KIND OF THING. BUT WHAT WE HEARD FROM A LOT OF VOTERS HERE IN PHILADELPHIA, THEY WANT TO LEARN. ESPECIALLY ABOUT KAMALA HARRIS. SHE'S BEEN VICE PRESIDENT FOR THREE AND A HALF YEARS. PEOPLE DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT HER. SHE'S HAD HER BIG CONVENTION, MADE THE BIG SPEECH, DONE A NUMBER OF RALLIES, THE SIT-DOWN INTERVIEW BUT TONIGHT IS THE FIRST CHANCE TO BE KIND OF AN HOUR AND A HALF UNSCRIPTED WITH A FORMIDABLE OPPONENT, A COUPLE OF METERS AWAY ON THE STAGE. WHAT WE HEARD FROM VOTERS WHO KNOW ABOUT DONALD TRUMP, LOVE HIM OR HATE HIM, THEY TOLD ME WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS HEAR FROM KAMALA HARRIS TONIGHT. THEY WANT TO SEE HOW SHE RESPONDS TO TRUMP'S JABS, WANT TO HEAR WHAT SHE HAS TO SAY ABOUT HER POLICIES AND THE UNDECIDEDS WE MET, IF YOU CAN BELIEVE IT, THERE ARE UNDECIDED VOTERS IN AMERICA A TINY SLIVER, THEY WANT TO KNOW MORE BEFORE THEY CAST THEIR VOTE. TONIGHT IS THE BIGGEST AND BEST CHANCE FOR KAMALA HARRIS AND DONALD TRUMP TO GET NAIR MESSAGES OUT TO THOSE FEW REMAINING UNDECIDEDS. THEY FIGURE 50 MILLION WATCHED THE BIDEN TRUMP DEBATE. THEY FEEL MORE TONIGHT. INCREDIBLE. >> IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE INCREDIBLE A LOT OF OPINIONS, A LOT OF THOUGHTS OUT THERE, MANY -- AND WE LEAN TOWARD THE UNDECIDED WANTING TO KNOW IF THIS COULD BE THEIR DECISION. WE'RE SPEAKING TO SOMEONE LATER ON IN OUR SHOW WEIGHING IN ON WHICH DIRECTION SHE WANTS TO GO IN. AS YOU MENTIONED, PEOPLE KNOW DONALD TRUMP. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO EXPECT FROM HIM FROM THIS DEBATE. TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT MORE PAUL IF YOU CAN IN TERMS OF WHAT SPECIFICALLY IF THEY TOLD YOU THEY'RE LOOKING FROM KAMALA HARRIS? I MEAN THIS WILL BE HER MOMENT AS YOU POINTED OUT FOR HER TO REALLY STAND STRONG AND SHOW HERSELF AS A LEADER, HER FIRST OFFICIAL DEBATE IN THIS PRESIDENTIAL RACE, SO WHAT HAVE THEY TOLD YOU? >> Reporter: HER FIRST OFFICIAL DEBATE IN THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE, THE FIRST TIME SHE WILL HAVE DEBATED DONALD TRUMP, FIRST TIME DONALD TRUMP AND KAMALA HARRIS WILL MEET. THERE'S NO LOVE LOST BETWEEN THESE TWO. PEOPLE SUGGEST PRIVATELY THAT DONALD TRUMP DESPISES HER. WE'VE HEARD THE THINGS HE'S SAID AT HIS RALLIES ABOUT HER, THE SUGGESTION IT'S MORE VULGAR BEHIND THE SCENES. THERE'S NO LOVE LOST WHATSOEVER. THE DYNAMIC BETWEEN THE TWO WILL BE SOMETHING TO WATCH. HOW AGGRESSIVE WILL THEY BE AGAINST EACH OTHER? WILL DONALD TRUMP TAKE THE BAIT IF KAMALA HARRIS PUTS IT OUT, TRYING TO GOAD HIM INTO SHOWING AN UGLY SIDE THAT EMERGES AT DIFFERENT TIMES. WHAT WILL SHE SAY TO QUESTIONS ABOUT POLICY, THE KNOCK SO FAR IS DESPITE THE FACT SHE'S REJUVENATED DEMOCRATS AND BASICALLY MADE IT A DEAD HEAT AT THIS POINT, WHAT WILL SHE RESPOND -- HOW WILL SHE RESPOND TO QUESTIONS ON POLICY? SHE'S BEEN CRITICIZED IN THE PAST FOR THE FLIP-FLOPS SHE'S MADE, SPECIFICALLY IN PENNSYLVANIA. SHE CAME OUT AGAINST FRACKING A LONG TIME AGO. WE'LL SEE HOW SHE RESPONDS TO THOSE THINGS. IT'S GOING TO BE A SHOW, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY BUT THE STAKES COULD NOT BE HIGHER. THE CONTEST IS SO TIGHT RIGHT NOW. IT'S SO CLOSE, 55 DAYS ONLY UNTIL THE -- EFFECTIVELY IT'S TOMORROW IN SO MANY WAYS. THE WHITE HOUSE HANGS IN THE BALANCE. IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING TO WATCH. >> Angie: INDEED. 90 MINUTES OF PURE ENTERTAINMENT IN SOME WAYS. PAUL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE CBC'S PAUL HUNTER IN PHILADELPHIA. OVER TO WASHINGTON NOW WHERE WE FIND OUR RICHARD MADAN. RICHARD, GREAT TO SEE YOU AND I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN KEEPING A CLOSE EYE NOW, 90 MINUTES, SO MUCH WE'LL PULL THE LAYERS ON. TALK TO US ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF EACH CANDIDATE? >> PAUL SUMMED IT UP, YOU COULD NOT GET HIGHER STAKES IN THIS DEBATE. LET'S THINK ABOUT THIS. ZOOM OUT FOR A MOMENT. 75 DAYS AGO WAS THE LAST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE AND WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED. JOE BIDEN BOMBED AND THAT TRIGGERED HIS REPLACEMENT BY KAMALA HARRIS. SHE'S HAD IN JUST UNDER TWO MONTHS, SHE'S TAKEN OVER THE PARTY. SHE'S HAD HER CONVENTION. SHE'S HAD ONE SIT DOWN INTERVIEW AND NOW SHE'S PREPARING FOR PERHAPS THE MOST CRITICAL DEBATE OF HER POLITICAL CAREER. SO THE STAKES COULD NOT BE HIGHER. AS PAUL ALSO POINTED OUT, SHE'S UNDER TREMENDOUS PRESSURE. SEVERAL POLLS SUGGEST BETWEEN THREE TO FOUR AMERICANS STILL DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT SHE STANDS FOR. I SUSPECT WE'RE GOING TO SEE TRUMP REALLY TRYING TO TIE HER TO THE UNPOPULAR POLICIES OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. HE'S PROBABLY GOING TO GO AFTER HER ON THINGS LIKE THE RISING INFLATION RATES, THE ECONOMY, AND IMMIGRATION. SO ALL THIS AS POLLS SUGGEST A TIGHTENING RACE, BOTH CANDIDATES ARE UNDER TREMENDOUS PRESSURE TO PERFORM WELL AND WIN BUT IT'S THE ECONOMIC ANXIETIES THAT TRUMP ADVISORS ARE SAYING HE'S GOING TO LEAN INTO. HE'S BEING URGED NOT TO GO OF A SCRIPT. NOT TO -- TO AVOID THE PERSONAL ATTACKS AND THE BARRAGE OF LIES THAT HARRIS IS EXPECTING. I WANT YOU TO LISTEN TO TRUMP'S -- ONE OF TRUMP'S TOP OFFICIALS LAYING IT OUT THIS MORNING. TAKE A LISTEN. >> HE HAS TO FOCUS ON THE ISSUES MOST IMPORTANT TO VOTERS. HE HAS TO FOCUS ON WHAT HE HAS FOCUSED ON TEMPORARILY PRIMARILE COMPARE TRAIL. TALKING ABOUT BRINGING DOWN INFLATION, TALKING ABOUT SECURING THE SOUTHERN BORDER AND MAKING SURE HE HOLDS KAMALA'S FEET TO THE FIRE. >> Reporter: NOW HARRIS'S ADVISORS SAY SHE WILL PRESENT A POSITIVE VISION FOR THE COUNTRY, BUT AS I NOTED EARLIER SHE DOES EXPECT TRUMP TO LAUNCH PERSONAL ATTACKS AND LIES. HER CHALLENGE IS TO PRESENT HER VISION BUT HER ADVISORS HOPE FOR VIRAL MOMENTS WHERE HARRIS CONFRONTS THE FORMER PRESIDENT. TAKE A LISTEN TO A TOP DEMOCRAT. >> VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS IS GOING TO ARTICULATE A FORWARD LOOKING INCLUSIVE AGENDA TO MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR EVERYDAY AMERICANS AND CREATE A CLEAR CONTRAST TO THE CHAOS, DYSFUNCTION AND EXTREMISM THAT DONALD TRUMP WILL VISIT UPON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. >> Reporter: NOW SOMETHING ELSE TO NOTE HERE TONIGHT, THAT'S ALSO SOMEWHAT SURPRISING, BUT NOT UNUSUAL IN THIS REALLY UNUSUAL POLITICAL SEASON, IS THAT OUTSIDE THE DEBATE HALL, THERE'S WHAT'S CALLED THE SPIN ROOM WHERE ADVISORS FROM BOTH CAMPS TRY TO SPIN REPORTERS TO INSIST THEY WON THIS DEBATE, THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN HAS RECRUITED TWO. OLIVIA TROY, A FORMER TOP ADVISORS TO FORMER REPUBLICAN VICE PRESIDENT MAKE PENSE AND ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI WHO WAS THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY UNDER DONALD TRUMP WHO SURVIVED 11 DAYS. BUT TWO FORMER REPUBLICANS GOING TO BE SPINNING FOR HARRIS TONIGHT. THAT'S AN -- A VERY STRIKING MOMENT AS WE -- AS THIS DEBATES ENDS. SO ULTIMATELY, IN IS A BIG CHALLENGE -- THE CHALLENGE I THINK IS HIGHER FOR KAMALA HARRIS TONIGHT BECAUSE SHE NEEDS TO PRESENT HERSELF AND ARTICULATE IDEAS AND ALSO HOW SHE'S GOING TO THREAD THE NEEDLE. WHAT SHE'S GOING TO ALIGN WITH UNDER THE FORMER -- UNDER THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION AND HOW SHE TRIES TO CHART HER OWN COURSE TONIGHT. THAT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING. ALSO GOING TO BE WATCHING DONALD TRUMP AS WELL. WILL HE BE MORE LAID BACK TONIGHT AND AVOID THE PERSONAL ATTACKS? SOMETHING ELSE TO WATCH TONIGHT, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THE TWO WILL MEET FACE-TO-FACE. SO WILL THEY EVEN SHAKE HANDS? BEFORE THE DEBATE BEGINS? THERE'S NO LOVE LOST AS PAUL NOTEDDED. A HANDSHAKE OR LACK OF A HANDSHAKE WILL SET THE TONE WHEN THEY TAKE THE STAGE TONIGHT. >> Angie: QUICKLY RICHARD, A -- THAT'S THE FIRST SHOT THAT EVERYBODY'S WATCHING THERE AND SEE WHERE IT GOES. QUICKLY, SOME OF THE KEY ISSUES THAT WILL COME UP TONIGHT, SOME OF THE KEY ISSUES YOU THINK ARE -- WILL SHIFT THINGS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE POLLS, VOTERS? >> Reporter: WELL OBVIOUSLY I THINK TRUMP IS GOING TO TRY TO DELIVER AN ECONOMIC MESSAGE, FOCUS ON THE ECONOMIC ANXIETIES, RUN AWAY INFLATION, THE HIGH COST OF GROCERIES. I SUSPECT HE'S GOING TO LEAN IN ON IMMIGRATION CALLING OUT WHAT HE PERCEIVES AS THE BIDEN WHITE HOUSE'S LACK OF ENFORCEMENT ALONG THE SOUTHERN BORDER. FROM THE HARRIS PERSPECTIVE, SHE'S GOING TO TRY TO CONTRAST HER POSITIVE VISION VERSUS WHAT THEY CALL TRUMP'S DOOM AND GLOOM APPROACH. SHE'S REALLY I SUSPECT GOING HARD ON PROTECTING WOMEN'S RIGHTS, PARTICULARLY ABORTION ACCESS, THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES. SHE'S GOING TO ARTICULATE HER POLICIES TO HELP MIDDLE CLASS VOTERS. AS WE'VE BEEN SAYING THROUGHOUT, THIS IS A DIVIDED COUNTRY. NO MATTER WHO -- NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS TONIGHT, ABOUT HALF THE COUNTRY'S GOING TO SAY THAT HARRIS WON. HALF THE COUNTRY'S GOING TO SAY TRUMP WON. THERE'S A SLIVER OF UNDECIDED VOTERS UP FOR GRABS AND BOTH ARE GOING TO TRY TO TAILOR THE MESSAGE TOWARDS THOSE UNDECIDED. >> RICHARD MADAN IN WASHINGTON. ON THE NIGHT OF THE DEBATE BETWEEN DONALD TRUMP AND PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN, WE SPOKE TO RECENT UNIVERSITY GRADUATE MAJORING IN POLITICAL SCIENCE AND PUBLIC POLICY BEFORE THAT DEBATE. AUDREY PORTER WAS STILL UNDECIDED. SHE HOPED THE DEBATE WOULD HELP HER DECIDE WHICH CANDIDATE TO SUPPORT. TAKE A LISTEN. >> JUST SEEING HOW THEY DO, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE SEEN BOTH OF THEM TALK TOGETHER IN QUITE SOME TIME AND DEBATE IN THIS FORMAT. SO IT WILL DEFINITELY HELP. >> THE DEBATE WAS PIVOTAL. JOE BIDEN'S POOR PERFORMANCE AND WITHDRAWAL OPENED THE DOOR FOR KAMALA HARRIS TO STEP IN AND BECOME DONALD TRUMP'S NEW OPPONENT. AUDREY PORTER JOINS US AGAIN TO SEE WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN. AUDREY, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME. >> Angie: YOU WERE LISTENING, I KNOW, TO THE VARIOUS CONVERSATIONS WE'VE BEEN HAVING OVER THE COURSE OF THE SHOW. WHEN WE SPOKE LAST TIME, YOU WERE UNDECIDED. THINGS HAVE SHIFTED A LITTLE BIT FOR YOU. GIVE US AN UPDATE IN TERMS OF WHERE YOUR MINDSET IS RIGHT NOW AND I GUESS THE -- YOU KNOW, THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS PARTICULAR DEBATE FOR YOU. >> ABSOLUTELY. WELL, BACK WHEN WE FIRST SPOKE, IN JUNE, IT WAS JUST A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT RACE. KAMALA HARRIS STEP INTO THAT POSITION. A LOT OF AMERICANS, EVEN PEOPLE THAT WERE UNDECIDED, THE ENTIRE MOMENTUM OF THE CAMPAIGN SHIFTED. I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE'RE SEEING IS HOPE, THAT SEEMS TO BE A BIG THEME PUSHED BY THE HARRIS WALZ CAMPAIGN. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING I HOPE TO SEE TONIGHT. I HOPE TO SEE HER TALK ABOUT HER POLICIES. I KNOW SHE RECENTLY PUBLISHED THAT PLAN. IT WILL BE GREAT TO SEE HER PRESENT THAT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. >> Angie: IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WITH REGARD TO KAMALA HARRIS? A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW WHERE THINGS STAND REGARDING DONALD TRUMP. BUT AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT A NEW CANDIDATE, A POTENTIAL ONE THAT YOU COULD BE VOTING FOR, ARE THERE CONCERNS? >> THERE'S DEFINITELY CONCERNS. I MEAN THERE'S ALWAYS CONCERNS AT THIS HIGH STAKES. I THINK JUST SEEING HER PERFORM, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME SHE'S GOING AGAINST DONALD TRUMP IN A DEBATE LIKE THIS, THIS HIGH OF A LEVEL. SEEING HOW SHE PERFORMS UNDER THAT PRESSURE, THE FIRST TIME TO SEE THAT. SPECIFIC POLICIES, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HER TOUCH ON IMMIGRATION AND THE ECONOMY. THOSE ARE BIG THINGS. IMMIGRATION IS A HOT TOPIC FOR BOTH. BUT A HUMANE AND EFFECTIVE APPROACH. >> WHAT ABOUT FOR DONALD TRUMP? >> YOU KNOW, I THINK FOR HIM A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK HE'S GOING TO COME WITH A STRATEGY SIMILAR TO JOE BIDEN. I THINK IF HE'S ABLE TO GET AWAY FROM THAT AND NOT BE AS HARSH AND NAME-CALLING IT WILL SHOW UNDECIDED VOTERS A DIFFERENT SIDE TO HIM. ONE THAT GETS THINGS DONE AND HAS POLICY IDEAS THAT PEOPLE CAN GET BEHIND ESPECIALLY IMMIGRATION. SEEING HIM TAKE THAT APPROACH IF HE CHOOSES TO WOULD BE A BIG BENEFIT. IF NOT, IT COULD HURT HIS CAMPAIGN. >> I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN ACTIVE, GETTING INVOLVED, TALKING TO A NUMBER OF PEOPLE. THE YOUNG VOTE IS ALSO REALLY CRITICAL IN THIS ELECTION. WHAT ARE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU ARE HAVING WITH YOUR PEERS, WITH YOUR FRIENDS, WITH FAMILY MEMBERS IN TERMS OF GETTING A SENSE OF WHERE THE PULSE IS? SOME ARE SAYING WHEN WE SPOKE WITH OUR KATIE SIMPSON OUT IN CHARLOTTE NORTH CAROLINA AND THE SAME FEELING OF BARACK OBAMA. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? IS THERE SOME OF THAT ENERGY YOU'RE FEELING? WHAT ARE PEOPLE SAYING? >> ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN I WAS VERY YOUNG WHEN OBAMA WAS ELECTED. BUT THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE SEEM TO BE TALKING ABOUT AND MY GENERATION FEELS THAT. A LOT OF REPUBLICANS CAME OUT IN SUPPORT OF KAMALA HARRIS. I'M A REGISTERED REPUBLICAN BUT THIS WILL BE MY SECOND TIME VOTING FOR DEMOCRAT FOR THE OVAL OFFICE TICKET. HOPE, ENERGY. PEOPLE ARE EXCITED NOW. THAT WASN'T THE CASE A FEW MONTHS AGO, ESPECIALLY WHEN JOE BIDEN WAS STILL IN THE RACE AFTER HIS DEBATE PERFORMANCE. BUT NOW THAT'S COMPLETELY SHIFTED. PEOPLE ARE EXCITED. LOOKING FORWARD TO VOTING FOR KAMALA HARRIS. >> YOU MENTION THAT HAD YOU'RE A REGISTERED REPUBLICAN. WHAT SHIFTED YOU OVER TO VOTE DEMOCRAT? >> I THINK SOME OF THE CONCERNS, A LOT OF PEOPLE MENTION PROJECT 2025 BUT MORE CONSERVATIVE EXTREME VIEWS THAT DONALD TRUMP AND SOME OF HIS SUPPORTERS PUSHED IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO GET AWAY. NATIONAL UNITY, MOVING FORWARD THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO COME BACK TOGETHER. DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS NEED TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND GET THINGS DONE. I THINK KAMALA HARRIS IS THE BETTER CANDIDATE FOR THAT. >> SHE WAS ASKED ABOUT THIS WHETHER OR NOT SHE WOULD HAVE ANY REPUBLICANS I GUESS TO SORT OF -- IN HER CONSTITUENCY, CONGRESS OR WHATNOT WORKING TOGETHER WITH HER. WHAT -- YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT HERE WHERE SHE'S IN FACT -- HAS MENTIONED AND TALKED ABOUT THAT CROSSOVER. >> YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A HUGE BENEFIT FOR REPUBLICANS WHO ARE WANTING TO SEE MORE PRESENCE IN THE OVAL OFFICE IF DONALD TRUMP IS NOT ELECTED. SO SEEING SHE'S WILLING TO WORK TOGETHER, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT TRUMP COULD TOUCH ON TONIGHT IF HE SAYS I ALSO WANT TO DO THAT AND HAVE A SIMILAR PLAN. THAT COULD BE A HUGE BENEFIT TO HIM. I'M NOT SURE WE'LL SEE THAT TONIGHT. >> Angie: HAVE YOU MADE A DECISION OR IS THIS DEBATE REALLY GOING TO BE THE WEIGHING FACTOR PERHAPS FOR YOU IN DECIDING WHICH WAY YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE COME NOVEMBER? >> YOU KNOW, I THINK AROUND 30% OF AMERICANS SAY THIS DEBATE WILL MEAN SOMETHING TO THEM. I'M 90% SURE I'M VOTING FOR KAMALA HARRIS. IF SHE DOESN'T PERFORM LIKE WE THINK SHE WILL, I'LL HAVE TO REASSESS. I'M PRETTY LOCKED IN FOR KAMALA HARRIS IN NOVEMBER. >> INTERESTING, GREAT CHATTING WITH YOU AND SEEING WHAT THAT SHIFT HAS BEEN SINCE THE LAST DEBATE TO WHERE WE ARE NOW AND WHAT WE ANTICIPATE TONIGHT. GOOD SPEAKING WITH YOU. AUDREY PORTER UNDECIDED VOTER RECENT GRADUATE FROM OREGON STATE UNIVERSITY MAJORING IN POLITICAL SCIENCE AND PUBLIC POLICY. THANKS. >> THANK YOU. >> WE'LL CONTINUE ON HERE. BREAKING DOWN NOW THE STRATEGY FOR BOTH CANDIDATES AHEAD OF THIS DEBATE. OUR PANEL, MO VELA, A FORMER SENIOR ADVISOR TO PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN. MATT CAROLE, A REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST AND MANAGING PARTNER AT FARHOUSE STRATEGIES FROM WASHINGTON. MO, MATT, GREAT TO HAVE YOU BOTH HERE ON "CANADA TONIGHT." THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU, ANGIE. >> MO, I WANT TO START WITH YOU FIRST. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IS NOT UNFAMILIAR GROUND FOR DONALD TRUMP. HE'S -- THIS WILL BE HIS 7th GENERAL ELECTION DEBATE. FOR KAMALA HARRIS THOUGH IT IS STILL SOMEWHAT UNFAMILIAR GROUND. THAT'S NOT TO SAY SHE'S NOT A DEBATER. SHE IS. TECHNICALLY THIS IS HER FIRST DEBATE AS POTENTIAL PRESIDENT HERE. WALK US THROUGH WHAT SHE NEEDS TO DO, HOW SHE'S GOING TO COMPENSATE -- ONE MAY SAY FOR LACK OF EXPERIENCE, BEING IN THIS SPECIFIC POSITION HERE, BUT SHE NEEDS TO REALLY STAND OUT. >> YEAH, GOOD TO BE WITH YOU AGAIN, ANGIE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AND MATT IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE ON WITH YOU. LET ME SAY THIS, ANGIE, I THINK THAT HER PROSECUTORTORAL BACKGROUND ARE GOING TO COME IN EXTREMELY HANDY TONIGHT. I THINK IF I WAS ADVISING HER, I WOULD ADVISE HER TO RELY ON THOSE INSTINCTS. SHE KNOWS HOW TO GO AFTER A TARGET. SHE KNOWS HOW TO BUILD A NARRATIVE AND A MESSAGE FOR AN AUDIENCE. WHETHER IT BE A JURY OR IN THIS CASE 50 MILLION AMERICANS AND MILLIONS OF OTHERS AROUND THE WORLD. AND SO SHE KNOWS HOW TO DO ALL THAT. I THINK SHE HAS THE MOST TO GAIN TONIGHT, BUT SHE ALBERTA HEALTH HAS THE MOST TOLOSE TONIGHT. DONALD TRUMP HAS NEVER RECEIVED MORE THAN 47% AFTER THE VOTE IN THE UNITED STATES. MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE HE CAN'T BREAK THAT NUMBER IF THAT'S THE CASE SHE'S GOT THE MOST TO GAIN, BUT LIKE I SAID, SHE ALSO HAS THE MOST TO LOSE. >> Angie: SHE -- THERE'S A LOT PEOPLE WILL FOCUS ON IN TERMS OF WHAT SHE'S GOING TO SAY, HOW SHE PRESENTS HERSELF. SHIFTING TO DONALD TRUMP AND MATT OVER TO YOU, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, HE'S NO STRANGER TO THE DEBATE BUT CERTAINLY THINGS ARE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT. HE'S NOT DEBATING JOE BIDEN LIKE WE SAW IN THE LAST DEBATE, OF COURSE. KAMALA HARRIS COMES WITH AS MO POINTS OUT A LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE. SHE'S THE YOUNGER CANDIDATE. SHE COMES TO THE STAGE WITH A NUMBER OF FIRSTS BE THE FIRST BLACK WOMAN, BLACK AND SOUTH ASIAN DECENT HERE. IS THIS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE FOR HIM? WHAT IS HE GOING TO NEED TO DO TO CONTINUE TO -- TO RALLY SUPPORT BUT THEN PULL IN THOSE WHO, YOU KNOW, MAY BE ON THE FENCE? DESCENT. >> FOCUS ON THE POLICIES. WHILE HE MATE NOT BE DEBATING PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN, HE'S DEBATING KAMALA HARRIS, A PART OF THE ADMINISTRATION. HE'S ABOUT PERSONALITY AND FOCUS ON INFLATION, NAMELY AFFORDABILITY. PARTICULARLY ON HOUSING, FOOD AND FUEL AND HEALTH CARE. TALK ABOUT BORDER SECURITY. TALK ABOUT CRIME. THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THAT RESONATE WITH VOTERS OUT THERE NATION-WIDE, PARTICULARLY THOSE UNDECIDEDDED IN THIS ELECTION. IT MAY BE 50 MILLION AMERICANS, MAYBE EVEN MORE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE DEBATE TONIGHT. IT COULD COME DOWN TO 50,000 VOTERS GIVE OR TAKE AND KEY STATES, WISCONSIN, MICHIGAN, GEORGIA. WHAT FORMER PRESIDENT NEEDS TO DO IS TALK ABOUT THOSE ISSUES, DEMONSTRATE DISCIPLINE AND TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES IN COMPARISON TO THE BIDEN HARRIS -- >> MO, WHAT ABOUT KAMALA HARRIS, WHAT DOES SHE NEED TO DO TO APPEAL TO THE UNDECIDED VOTERS -- SHE'S GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE YOUNGER VOTER AS WELL. MAYBE EVEN THE FIRST TIME VOTER. >> YEAH, I THINK SHE NEEDS TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT. YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE MATT TALKING POINTS AND HAT REPUBLICANS ARE DOING WITH TALKING POINTS, BUT THE REALITY IS CRIME IT DOWN. UNDER DONALD TRUMP, WE ACTUALLY CREATED THE LEAST AMOUNT OF JOBS IN ANY MODERN PRESIDENCY. VERSUS JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS, IF YOU WANT TO ATTACH HER TO JOE BIDEN, LET'S FOCUS ON WHAT THEY'VE ACCOMPLISHED TOO. YOU CAN'T MAKE UP THINGS. CRIME IS DOWN. BORDER CROSSINGS ARE DOWN 50%. AND YOU CAN JUST KEEP GOING AND I THINK SHE HAS TO REMIND THE PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN COME AT YOU THAT WAY, BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS I'VE SERVED IN THE WHITE HOUSE TWICE UNDER TWO VICE PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES AND I UNDERSTOOD THE ROLE. THE VICE PRESIDENT HAS A BOSS. THEY'RE CALLED PRESIDENT. YOU CAN TRY TO ATTACH HER ALL DAY LONG AND THAT'S A WONDERFUL TALKING POINT. THE REALITY IS THE FINAL DECISIONS WERE NOT HERS. SHE NEEDS TO DISTINGUISH HERSELF TONIGHT ON HOW SHE WOULD DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY THAN JOE BIDEN HAS AND SHE HAS TO VERY SUCCINCTLY SHARE WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHAT HER VISION IS FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR NATION AND DEMOCRACY. >> MATT, THE ISSUES THAT DONALD TRUMP NEEDS TO BE PUTTING FORWARD, KAMALA HARRIS I THINK MO IS POINTING OUT IS GOING TO COME ON THE STAGE SHOWING SHE'S THE BOSS. DONALD TRUMP GOES TO THE PODIUM AND EXPRESSES HIMSELF AS THE BOSS BUT IS HE GOING TO NEED TO PIVOT OR SHIFT TO SHOW HE'S NOT ONLY FOCUSED ON THE ISSUES BUT COMING THERE AS THE LEADER, AS THE BOSS IF YOU WILL TO LEAD THE AMERICAN PEOPLE? >> YEAH, LOOK, HE NEEDS TO SHOW UP AND FOCUS ON THE POLICIES THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CARE ABOUT. WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO IS MAKE THIS DEBATE ABOUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. AND TALK ABOUT INFLATION, TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY. TALK ABOUT BORDER SECURITY. AND CRIME AND CONTRAST HIS RECORD ON THOSE KEY ISSUES WITH THE ADMINISTRATION'S RECORD, VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS'S RECORD ON THE ISSUES. THE KEY FOR HIM IS FOCUSING IN ON THE POLICIES THAT MANY AMERICANS ARE FOCUSED IN ON, PARTICULARLY UNDECIDEDS. IT MAY BE DECIDED BY AS LOW AS 50,000 VOTERS, YOU GO THE GOP BASE ARE FIRED UP. THE DEMOCRAT BASE, THEY'RE FIRED UP FOR VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS. THEY'RE GOING TO TURN OUT LIKELY. IT COMES DOWN TO THE INDEPENDENT UNDECIDED VOTERS AND WHAT DO THEY CARE ABOUT? AFFORDABILITY, BORDER SECURITY, CRIME. THIS IS A GOOD NIGHT TALKING ABOUT PERSONALITIES AND OTHER THINGS -- THIS IS A MOMENT TO REACH OUT TO THE UNDECIDED VOTERS PAYING ATTENTION TONIGHT. >> ANGIE, IF YOU COULD THROW ONE MORE THING IN THERE. I THINK ONE THING THAT Mr. TERRELL IS LEAVING OUT IS THE WOMEN OF THIS NATION, EXCUSE ME, THEY CARE ABOUT HAVING THE RIGHT TO DETERMINE WHAT IS DONE WITH THEIR OWN BODIES. SO REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS AND REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE ARE GOING TO BE A VERY HUGE ISSUE. I EXPECT THAT SHE WILL BRING THAT FRONT AND CENTRE. THERE'S A REASON SHE'S LEADING AMONG WOMEN IN THIS COUNTRY BY DOUBLE DIGITS. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT CRIME. IT'S DOWN DRAMATICALLY. AGAIN, YOU WANT TO CONTRAST IT? SHE WILL HAVE -- THAT WILL BE FUN FOR HER BECAUSE THE NUMBERS ARE IN HER FAVOUR. IMMIGRATION, 50% LESS BORDER CROSSINGS. IF THAT'S THEIR PLAN, BRING IT ON. IT'S GOING TO BE FUN TO WATCH HER JUST CONTINUALLY REFUTE AND WITH DATA, WITH TRUTH, WITH FACTS. >> Angie: REALLY QUICKLY FROM BOTH OF YOU IF I CAN, WE'RE OUT OF TIME HERE. I WANT TO STEP ON THAT POINT THERE, MO, OF THE FEMALE VOTER. IT'S ANTICIPATED MORE WOMEN WILL BE VOTING IN THIS ELECTION. THE HOPE WAS THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN DURING HILLARY CLINTON'S TIME. IT DIDN'T NECESSARILY, BUT IF IT HAPPENS THIS TIME AROUND, IN THIS DEBATE WITH WOMEN LISTENING NOW FOR BOTH OF YOU, WHAT DOES EACH NEED TO DO TO GET THAT VOTE? MO, YOU SAID YOUR POINTS THERE. MATT? >> YEAH, LOOK, I THINK INFLATION, BORDER SECURITY, CRIME. I THINK THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THAT ARE GOING TO DRIVE THIS RACE PARTICULARLY FOR INDEPENDENT UNDECIDED VOTERS, VOTERS OF DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE, WHAT'S GOING TO MATTER ARE THOSE VOTING BLOCKS. LOOK, ABORTION, ABSOLUTELY VOTERS CARE ABOUT THAT. THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE ISSUES THAT ARE DRIVING THE RACE, THE TOP CONCERNS, IT IS THE ECONOMY, INFLATION, BORDER SECURITY AND CRIME. AND IF A CANDIDATE DEMONSTRATES THEY HAVE A SOLID TRACK RECORD ON THE ISSUES AND CAN LEAD OP THOSE ISSUES, THAT'S GOING TO WIN OVER THOSE VOTERS. THE POLITICAL BASES ARE GOING TO TURN OUT. IT COMES DOWN TO ROUGHLY 45,000, 50,000, A HUNDRED THOUSAND, A SMALL NUMBER OF VOTERS THE CANDIDATES ARE SPEAKING TO TONIGHT. I'M TELLING YOU THAT'S GOING TO DRIVE THE RACE AND WHAT THEY NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON. >> I HOPE HE'S RIGHT. WE WIN ON THOSE ISSUES. THEY'RE UNDER CONTROL. ALL DRAMATICALLY REDUCED. BRING IT ON MY FRIEND. >> Angie: THE DEBATE HERE ENDED. WE ANTICIPATE THE MAIN DEBATE AT 9:00. I THANK YOU BOTH. MO VELA IN PROVIDENCE, RHODE ISLAND AND MATT TERRELL JOINING US FROM WASHINGTON. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> Angie: WELL, AHEADS OF TONIGHT'S DEBATE, POLLS SHOW AN EXTREMELY TIGHT RACE MAKING WHAT HAPPENS IN PHILADELPHIA EVEN MORE IMPORTANT TO UNDECIDED VOTERS. >> REPUBLICAN, ALWAYS VOTED REPUBLICAN. NOT SURE THIS YEAR. >> I'M GOING WITH TRUMP REGARDLESS. I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT KAMALA. BORDER, INFLATION IS MY MAIN THING. >> MY HOPE IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TELL US WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, NOT WHAT THE OTHER PERSON HAS DONE. >> HOPEFULLY SHE GETS TOUGH QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS AND I CAN CHANGE MY MIND. >> I WANT HER TO FACT CHECK HIM IF SHE CAN. OR CHALLENGE HIS UNTRUTHS. >> THIS IS HER CHANCE TO GET HER MESSAGE OUT, TO GET HER PERSONALITY OUT THERE. AND REALLY FIND OUT WHAT HER POLICIES ARE. >> Angie: HERE'S ANOTHER LOOK AT PHILADELPHIA THIS HOUR. AND THE NATIONAL CONSTITUTION CENTRE. WE HAVE ABOUT HALF AN HOUR AWAY FROM THE HIGHLY ANTICIPATED DEBATE. FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP AND CURRENT VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS GEARING UP TO FACE EACH OTHER FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE U.S. PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN. ALL RIGHT, LET'S THROW OVER TO OUR CHIEF CORRESPONDENT ADRIENNE ARSENAULT FOR SPECIAL COVERAGE LEADING UP TO THE DEBATE BETWEEN KAMALA HARRIS AND DONALD TRUMP. >> THANKS, ANGIE. GREAT CONVERSATIONS THERE. THE THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ON WHAT IS SURE TO BE AN INTENSE, INTERESTING EVENING AS ANGIE SAID, WE'RE JUST ABOUT 30 MINUTES AWAY FROM DONALD TRUMP AND KAMALA HARRIS MEETING FOR THEIR FIRST U.S. PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. THE FIRST TIME THEY'LL EVER MEET FACE-TO-FACE. [ ♪♪♪ ] SO MUCH HAS LED UP TO THIS MOMENT. MORE THAN EIGHT YEARS OF COMBATIVE POLITICAL DISCOURSE, NAME-CALLING, BLAMING, COURT CASES AND THAT DRAMATIC LAST MINUTE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE SWAP. THE LAST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE BETWEEN TRUMP AND JOE BIDEN PROVED JUST HOW IMPORTANT THESE MOMENTS ARE. BIDEN'S POOR PERFORMANCE PUSHED HIM RIGHT OUT OF THE RACE. ALL EYES ARE ON THIS STAGE AT THIS DEBATE WITH JUST 56 DAYS TO GO. WHAT DO THE CANDIDATES NEED TO DO? WHAT DO THEY NEED TO NOT DO? HOW DO THEY MAKE THEIR CASE TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC? LET'S DIVE IN. [ ♪♪♪ ] NEITHER TRUMP MORE NAIRRIES IS A STRANGER TO DEBATES, BUT TONIGHT THE STAKES ARE SKY HIGH. SO WHAT DO THEY NEED TO PROVE? WE HAVE FULL COVERAGE, KATIE SIMPSON IS STANDING BY WITH VOTERS IN NEWLY MINTED SWING STATE NORTH CAROLINA. PAUL HUNTER IS IN CRUCIAL PENNSYLVANIA. THAT'S WHERE THE DEBATE IS BEING HELD TONIGHT AT THE NATIONAL CONSTITUTION CENTRE. PAUL, LET'S START WITH YOU. WE ARE OF COURSE 29ISH MINUTES AWAY FROM IT STARTING. FIRST TIME THEY'RE MEETING, SUCH VERY DIFFERENT POLITICIANS AND STYLE AND SUBSTANCE, WHAT'S YOUR SENSE OF THE DIFFERENCE IN HOW THEY'VE BEEN PREPARING? >> Reporter: SURPRISE! QUITE DIFFERENTLY. WORD FROM THE HARRIS CAMP IS THAT IT'S BEEN QUITE INTENSE. SHE'S BEEN HOLED UP FOR DAYS. SHE'S -- THEY'RE BOTH HERE OBVIOUSLY. SHE GOT HERE IN PHILADELPHIA YESTERDAY. SHE HAD BEEN IN PITTSBURGH FOR FOUR, FIVE DAYS AHEAD OF THAT REHEARSING WITH PEOPLE PLAY ACTING DONALD TRUMP AND THINGS LIKE THAT THEY WANTED TO SORT OF GET HER MUSCLE MEMORY GOING FOR ANYTHING HE MIGHT TOSS HER WAY. DONALD TRUMP NOT SO MUCH. YES, A LITTLE BIT OF THAT, ADVICE ON THE KIND OF DEBATER SHE IS, INCLUDING FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE DEBATED KAMALA HARRIS, BUT THE REPORTING IS IT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS INTENSE IN TERMS OF PREPARATION FOR TRUMP. MIND YOU HE'S A VETERAN AT THIS KIND OF STUFF, RIGHT? THIS WILL BE HIS 7th PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. THAT'S A RECORD. THIS IS KAMALA HARRIS' FIRST. NOT THAT SHE'S A STRANGER TO THE DEBATE STAGE EVEN AS VICE PRESIDENT OBVIOUSLY. BUT VERY DIFFERENT STYLES, VERY DIFFERENT APPROACHES. WE'LL SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT TONIGHT OBVIOUSLY. >> Adrian: I ALWAYS WON ABOUT THE LINE, OH, NO, HE'S NOT PREPARING RIG ALLOWSLY, IF THAT'S NOT A HEAD GAME. SECRETLY HE'S ACTUALLY STUDYING. WE'LL NEVER KNOW THE TRUTH. >> Reporter: ON THE OTHER HAND, FOR SURE, BUT IN FAIRNESS, HE DOES NOT LACK CONFIDENCE, RIGHT? WHAT WE HEAR ABOUT THAT SLIGHT PULL-BACK IN TERMS OF INTENSITY, IT FITS WITH THE IMAGE WE HAVE OF HIM. YOU'RE RIGHT, WE'LL NEVER KNOW, COULD BE A HEAD GAME. BUT IT FITS THE PERSONA THAT HE BELIEVES HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING. LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY. >> YOU BET. IN ALL DEBATES, THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT HOTLY CONTESTED BY EACH CANDIDATE'S CAMP. FORMAT FOR TONIGHT? >> Reporter: PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS IT WAS IN THE ILL-FATED FOR JOE BIDEN DEBATE BACK IN JUNE. NO AUDIENCE IN THE ROOM. GOING STRAIGHT TO QUESTIONS, TWO MINUTES PER ANSWER. TWO MINUTE REBUTTAL. THE TWO CANDIDATES WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO ASK EACH OTHER QUESTIONS. IT'S ALL GOING THROUGH THE MODERATORS. BUT THE BIG ONE, THINK 2020. THINK THAT VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE WITH MIKE PENCE WHEN HE SORT OF TRIED TO OVERSPEAK WHEN KAMALA HARRIS WAS SPEAKING. SHE SAID I FORGET THE EXACT -- EXCUSE ME, I'M SPEAKING. IT BECAME A VIRAL MOMENT. THERE'S T SHIRTS IN DC WITH HER PICTURE ON IT, EXCUSE ME, I'M SPEAKING. THE HARRIS TEAM WERE HOPING TO INITIATE PERHAPS A MOMENT LIKE THAT. SO THEY WANTED THE MICROPHONES LEFT ON NO MATTER WHO WAS SPEAKING IN CASE SHE COULD GOAD, NUDGE, NUDGE, WINK, WINK, TRUMP INTO SPEAKING OVER HER, LOOKING LIKE A BULLY. TRUMP THE OPPOSITE. WE WANT THEM CLOSED. HIS TEAM DOESN'T TRUST HE WON'T DO THAT PERHAPS. LIKE YOU SAID EARLIER WE'LL NEVER KNOW. IN THE END, THE TRUMP TEAM WON THE DEBATE. THE MICROPHONES WILL BE OFF WHEN THE OTHER -- OF THE CANDIDATE WHO'S NOT SPEAKING, OFF RELATIVE TO THE CANDIDATE WHO IS SPEAKING. SO THEMES THE RULES. YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. TRUMP IS TRUMP. BUT FOR THE -- AS IT STANDS, THE MICROPHONES WILL BE OFF WHEN THEY'RE NOT TALKING. >> OKAY, PAUL, SUPER BRIEFLY, BIG QUESTION, WITH THE OPINIONS SO HARDENED, DO THESE DEBATES MATTER? >> Reporter: YES. BACK TO YOU. [ Laughter ] >> THE RACE IS SO TIGHT. RIGHT? THERE'S -- THERE AREN'T THAT MANY VOTERS WHO HAVEN'T MADE UP THEIR MINDS AND THERE AREN'T THAT MANY STATES IN PLAY, 50, 60 MILLION WATCHING TONIGHT. THEY'RE SPEAKING TO AN -- THEY ESTIMATE AROUND 40,000 VOTERS IN THE SWING STATES, THE ONES WHOSE OPINIONS CAN BE SWAYED, RIGHT? THIS IS ALL ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT ON A CERTAIN LEVEL. PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THE VIRAL MOMENT, THE PUNCH AND THE JAB. BUT THEY ALSO WANT TO LEARN AND ENOUGH OF THE VOTERS OUT THERE STILL AN WANT TO LEARN. WHO IS KAMALA HARRIS REALLY? WHAT IS SHE SAYING REALLY? CAN SHE WIN THOSE VOTERS OVER. YOU WONDER ABOUT STAKES AND CONSEQUENCES, THE WHITE HOUSE IS IN THE BALANCE. IF TRUMP CAN MAKE SOME WARY OF HIM SAY WAIT A MINUTE, I'M OKAY FOR THIS JOB, I CAN BE PRESIDENTIAL. THEY'RE BOTH IN PLAY. THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES WITH THIS DEBATE. >> GOOD STUFF. PAUL HUNTER, WE WILL TALK AGAIN. >>> SO AS WE'VE SAID, THIS DEBATE IS HAPPENING IN PHILADELPHIA TONIGHT WHERE PAUL IS. THE BIGGEST CITY IN A VERY IMPORTANT STATE, THIS ELECTION, PEPS PENCE. KNOWN AS THE KEYSTONE STATE, PENNSYLVANIA COULD BE THE KEY TO WINNING THIS ELECTION. IT'S ONE OF SEVEN SWING STATES, THE OTHERS BEING ARIZONA, GEORGIA, MICHIGAN, NEVADA, NORTH CAROLINA CANNED WISCONSIN. EIGHT YEARS AGO, IN 2016, DONALD TRUMP NARROWLY CLAIMED IT. IN 2020 J.LO TURNED IT BLUE BUT BARELY AND TIME IS TICKING FOR THIS ELECTION. EARLY IN PERSON VOTING STARTS IN PENNSYLVANIA NEXT WEEK. JOE BIDEN. OVER TO KATIE SIMPSON. YOU'RE WITH VOTERS IN CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA. WHY THERE? WHAT ARE YOU HEARING? >> ADRIENNE, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO BELIEVE THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO BE SURPRISED BUT WE RIGHT NOW ARE IN A BAR. WE'RE HERE FOR DEBATE WATCH PARTY. >> SHOCKING. >> EVERYONE IS SHOCKED. LET'S SHOW YOU AROUND A LITTLE BIT. IT'S A PARTY LIKE ATMOSPHERE. WE'VE GOT THE DEJAY SET UP OVER HERE SPONSORSHIPPING TUNES. NOTICEABLY WE HEARD BEYONCÉ'S FREEDOM, THE SONG THAT KAMALA HARRIS HAS EMBRACED AS PART OF HER CAMPAIGN. WE'VE GOT THE BIG VOTING BALLOON WALL. WE HAVE A HUGE SCREEN WHERE THE DEBATE IS GOING TO BE BROADCAST AND PEOPLE ARE SLOWLY TRICKLING IN. MUCH OF THIS HAS BEEN ORGANIZED BY A NON-PROFIT GROUP THAT IS WORKING TO ENCOURAGE MORE BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE IN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA TO VOTE. AND SO WE'VE BEEN CHATTING WITH VOTERS HERE TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT THEY ARE HOPING TO SEE TONIGHT AND WHAT THEY THINK IS AT STAKE. >> I'M WATCHING FOR VP HARRIS TO CLEARLY ARTICULATE ALL THE WAYS IN WHICH SHE'S GOING TO CHANGE THIS COUNTRY FOR THE BETTER. BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT. I BELIEVE VERY, VERY FIRMLY THAT SHE IS THE CANDIDATE TO DO THAT. >> I THINK THERE'S AN OPEN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT MIDDLE AMERICA, I THINK THERE'S TWO EXTREMES OF TAXES FOR THE WEALTHY AND THEN GOVERNMENT FUNDING FOR YOU KNOW THE LOWER PRIVILEGED ENVIRONMENTS. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO FOR MIDDLE INCOME AMERICA, THE IMAGINE YOUITY OF AMERICA. I'M INTERESTED ON THAT. >> WE NEED TO ADDRESS SERIOUS THINGS GOING ON. YOU KNOW, REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS. THAT'S HEAVY. LET'S SPEAK ABOUT THAT. LET'S SPEAK ABOUT CLIMATE CONTROL. LET'S SPEAK ABOUT WHAT WE DO TO HELP THE MIDDLE CLASS. >> SOME OF THE PEOPLE WE SPOKE WITH TONIGHT ARE ROOTING FOR KAMALA HARRIS. THEY WANT THIS TO BE A STAND-OUT MOMENT FOR HER. WE'VE BEEN IN NORTH CAROLINA FOR A PHANEUF DAYS AND SPENT TIME IN THE RURAL COUNTY THAT IS LARGELY VOTE FOR REPUBLICANS. WE'RE SEEING SOME ENERGY AND ENTHUSIASM FOR DONALD TRUMP AND VOTERS THAT ARE HOPING THAT HE RETURNS TO THE WHITE HOUSE. >> SO ASIDE FROM THE TUNES, KATY, IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE YOU THERE, NORTH CAROLINA HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN A SWING STATE. IT IS THIS TIME AROUND. HOW COME? >> IT IS, SO THE VOTE HAS BEEN REALLY, REALLY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS -- TRADITIONALLY IT'S BEEN A REPUBLICAN HELD STATE. THE EXCEPTION WHEN OBAMA WON AND SO -- [ Inaudible ] THEY SEE THAT DONALD TRUMP IS A POLARIZING FIGURE. [ Inaudible ] KAMALA HARRIS WITH THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET THEY CAN MOBILIZE VOTERS. BUT BECAUSE THE RACE IS SO CLOSE HERE AND IT'S RECENTLY BECOME SO CLOSE, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WHEN JOE BIDEN WAS STILL THE NOMINEE, JOE BIDEN WAS TRAILING DONALD TRUMP RATHER SIGNIFICANTLY BUT THAT'S CHANGED NOW THAT KAMALA HARRIS IS ATOP THE TICKET. SHE'S COMING HERE ON THURSDAY TO DO SOME IN-PERSON CAMPAIGNING. THAT'S HOW IMPORTANT THIS STATE IS. >> ALL RIGHT, KATIE SIMPSON, WE'LL BE WITH YOU AGAIN LATER TONIGHT. >>> SO JOE BIDEN'S WITHDRAWAL SAW A SURGE IN VOTER REGISTRATION. ACCORDING TO THE NON-PART SON VOTER ENGAGEMENT ORGANIZATION VOTE.ORG MORE THAN 376,000 PEOPLE REGISTERED SINCE BIDEN HANDED THE REINS TO KAMALA HARRIS. VOTE.ORG SAYS OVER A MILLION NEW VOTERS REGISTERED THIS ELECTION CYCLE. 17% OF THEM ARE COMING FROM SEVEN SWING STATES WHERE THE 2020 RACE WAS DECIDED BY RAZOR THIN MARGINS. WHO ARE THESE NEW VOTERS? IT SEEMS 83% OF THE NEW REGISTRATION ARE AGED 18 TO 34 THAT COULD BE A BOON FOR HARRIS. THE SIGNS OF GROWING ENTHUSIASM AMONG YOUNG AMERICANS SINCE SHE LAUNCHED HER BID. SO STILL LOTS OF WORK AHEAD TO CONVINCE VOTERS. WE HAVE PLENTY OF EVIDENCE OF HOW BOTH TRUMP AND HARRIS DEBATE. WHAT COULD PAST PERFORMANCE TELL US ABOUT WHAT TACTICS THEY MIGHT EMPLOY TONIGHT. ELLEN MORE ARE IS TALKING TO EXPERTS. ELLEN, START WITH KAMALA HARRIS ARGUABLY FACING THE MOST PRESSURE. BIG EXPECTATIONS FOR HER. SHE'S A FAIRLY NEW DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE. >> THAT'S RIGHT, THE SPOTLIGHT, THE BULK OF THE PRESSURE AS YOU SAID WILL BE ON KAMALA HARRIS TONIGHT AND THERE'S ONE BIG REASON TO ARE THAT, AMERICANS KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING WHEN IT COMES TO DONALD TRUMP. THEY KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT, WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO KAMALA HARRIS IN POLLING ANECDOTALLY AND IN REPORTING, MANY AMERICANS SAY THEY DON'T HAVE A GREAT SENSE OF HER YET, ABOUT WHAT SHE'S ABOUT, WHAT SHE WOULD BE LIKE AS PRESIDENT. THIS IS HER CHANCE TO INTRODUCE HERSELF TO TENS OF MILLIONS AND MAKE HER CASE TO RARE, KEY CRUCIAL UNDECIDED VOTERS AND UNDECIDED SWING STATES. IN PRESSURE. A BIG MOMENT FOR HER. IT'S HER BIGGEST POLITICAL DEBATE TEST. SHE'S HAD BIG MOMENTS ON CAPITOL HILL. WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THOSE AND TALKING TO EXPERTS ABOUT WHAT TO EXPECT. >> IT'S CLEAR THIS DEBATE IS ABOUT DEFINING WHO SHE IS. SHE NEEDS TO DEFINE WHO SHE IS. DONALD TRUMP WANTS TO DEFINE WHAT SHE IS. WHAT PRESSURE IS ON HIM? IT'S CLEAR THE SPOTLIGHT IS SQUARELY ON HER. WHAT KIND OF EXPECTATIONS FOR HIM? >> WELL, THE EXPERTS SAID THE BAR IS LOWER FOR DONALD TRUMP. AGAIN, THAT GOES BACK TO THE FACT THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. SO IF HE SAYS SOMETHING THAT'S OFFENSIVE OR REALLY OUT THERE, THAT'S KIND OF BAKED INTO AMERICANS' PERCEPTIONS. BUT HIS MISSION IS BLAMING KAMALA HARRIS FOR THE THINGS AMERICANS ARE UPSET ABOUT, INFLATION AND ECONOMY. WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT OLD TAPE OF DONALD TRUMP AND TALKING TO PERIODS AND WE CAN PLAY SOME OF THAT FOR YOU. >> HEAR ME WHEN I SAY I KNOW DONALD TRUMP'S TYPE. >> KAMALA HARRIS STAKED HER -- VERSUS DONALD TRUMP, CONVICTED FELON. HARRIS IS KNOWN AS A TOUGH DEBATER, ABLE TO SEIZE THE SPOTLIGHT AND CREATE A VIRAL MOMENT. REMEMBER THIS FROM THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE IN 2020. >> HE WILL NOT RAISE TAXES ON ANYBODY THAT MAKES LESS THAN 40- [ Indiscernible Interjections ] >> Mr. VICE PRESIDENT, I'M SPEAKING. I'M SPEAKING. >> AS A SENATOR, HARRIS BROUGHT HER COURTROOM SKILLS TO CAPITOL HILL. >> CAN YOU THINK OF ANY LAWS THAT GIVE GOVERNMENT THE POWER TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THE MALE BODY? >> BATTLE TESTED, STRONG, DEFIANT. SHE'S GOING TO TELL THE WORLD TONIGHT WHY SHE'S READY TO CARRY THE TORCH FROM JOE BIDEN. >> BUT NOW SHE FACES HER TOUGHEST TEST AGAINST AN UNPREDICTABLE AND EXPERIENCED OPPONENT JUST AS POLLS SUGGEST HER MOMENTUM MAY BE SLOWING. >> SHE ONLY HAS ONE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE HERSELF AND MAKE THE CLOSING ARGUMENT. SO IT'S A LOT TO DO AND A LOT OF OBSTACLES IN THE WAY OF DOING IT SUCCESSFULLY. >> Reporter: ONE HARRIS NEEDS TO CLAIM SUCCESSES OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WHILE SHOWING HOW HER PRESIDENCY WOULD BE DIFFERENT AND SHE WILL HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR HER SHIFTING POLICY POSITIONS. >> IF HE'S ABLE TO PUSH HER INTO CORNER AND MAKE HER EXPLAIN WHY SHE MADE THE CHANGES AND IT'S NOT ADEQUATE IT WILL PLAY TO HIS BENEFIT. >> SHE'S NOT A GOOD DEBATER. SHE'S NOT A MART PERSON. SHE DOESN'T WANT TO DEBATE. >> DONALD TRUMP SPENT THE WEEKS LEADING UP TO THE DEBATE LAUNCHING PERSONAL ATTACKS. SOME SAY EXPECT MORE OF THAT TONIGHT. >> IF HE AVOIDS INSULTS, IT WILL BE A FIRST IN HIS LIFETIME. IT'S THE WAY HE'S BUILT. >> YOU KNOW WHAT, NOTHING SMART ABOUT YOU JOE. >> TRUMP HAS BEEN CRITICIZED FOR USING DEBATES TO AMPLIFY FALSE CLAIMS. >> AS FAR AS THE BALLOTS ARE CONCERNED IT'S A DISASTER. >> YOU'RE A SENATOR. >> Reporter: REMEMBER THIS MOMENT FROM 2020. >> THE QUESTION IS -- THE QUESTION IS... >> RADICAL LEFT. >> WILL YOU SIT UP MAN,. >> PART OF THE REASON THE MICROPHONES WILL BE MUTED. ABLE TO RILE AND DERAIL. >> HE CAN BE RESERVED AND PRESIDENTIAL AND ABOVE THE FRAY AND SUBDUED BUT ALSO VICIOUS ON THE OFFENCE IF ATTACKED. >> HE'S SET TO BLAME KAMALA HARRIS FOR WHAT REPUBLICANS ARGUE ARE THE FAILURES OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. >> STUPID PEOPLE RUNNING OUR COUNTRY. >> Reporter: FROM RISING INFLATION TO PRESSURE ON THE SOUTHERN BORDER. POLLS SUGGEST VOTERS FAVOUR TRUMP ON KEY ISSUES THAT DOMINATED MUCH OF THE CAMPAIGN. >> ALREADY GOT THE UPPER HAND IN THE ELECTION. IT FAVOURS AMERICANS IN THE SWING STATES WITH SWING VOTERS. THAT'S WHO TRUMP'S GOING TO TALK TO. >> THAT'S WHAT REPUBLICAN STRATEGISTS WANT HIM TO DO. THEY FEEL THEY HAVE AN ARGUMENT TO MAKE ON THE POLICY POINTS AROUND IMMIGRATION AND THE ECONOMY WHICH POLLS SHOW ARE THE TWO KEY ISSUES FOR VOTERS. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE. WHETHER WE WILL SEE THAT OR A MORE RESTRAINED VERSION OF DONALD TRUMP, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS? REPUBLICANS KNOW THAT THE POLLS HAVE -- APPEAR TO HAVE TIGHTENED IN RECENT DAYS GOING BACK TO NECK AND NECK WHEREAS HARRIS HAD A SLIGHT LEAD. THEY DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO CHANGE THAT. ONE DEBATE UP ENDED THIS ENTIRE RACE AND THIS DEBATE WILL SET UP HOW THE RACE IS TALKED ABOUT IN THE WEEKS AHEAD. >> THERE'S ALWAYS WHAT THE REPUBLICAN STRATEGISTS WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN AND WHAT THE CANDIDATE WANTS TO HAVE HAPPEN. >> EXACTLY. >> GOOD TAPE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ELLEN. APPRECIATE THAT. LET'S TURN TO SOME OTHER VERY SMART PEOPLE WHO WILL BE PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TONIGHT. FORMER CNN EDITOR AT LARGE, CHRIS AND THEA MITCHELL, DC CORRESPONDENT IN PHILADELPHIA. I LOVE IT THAT THEA IS ALWAYS ON THE GROUND. APPRECIATE THAT. CHRIS IF I CAN START WITH YOU THOUGH. 7th -- DONALD TRUMP'S 7th PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. MORE THAN ANY OTHER NOMINEE IN HISTORY. PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY LOOKING AT HIM AS THE FAVORITE WINNER IN THIS DEBATE? >> WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT EXPERIENCE MATTERS AND ALSO AS YOUR CORRESPONDENT NOTED EARLIER, EXPECTATIONS ARE PRETTY LOW FOR HIM. HE'S GOTTEN AWAY WITH SAYING AND DOING THINGS THAT NO POLITICIAN GETS AWAY WITH SAYING AND DOING IN THIS COUNTRY. MANY TIMES BEFORE INCLUDING IN DEBATES. SO IT'S SORT OF HARD TO IMAGINE THAT DONALD TRUMP WOULD SAY SOMETHING THAT WOULD SHOCK PEOPLE AT THIS POINT. I RULE NOTHING OUT. YEAH, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE PRESSURE ON HARRIS MOSTLY BECAUSE SHE'S A MUCH LESS WELL KNOWN FIGURE TO THE PUBLIC. SHE'S THE VICE PRESIDENT BUT I DON'T THINK PEOPLE KNOW THAT MUCH ABOUT HER. IT'S AN TUNE. THERE'S PLENTY OF PEOPLE ON THE FENCE OR LOOSELY FOR DONALD TRUMP WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE PRIED AWAY IF KAMALA HARRIS SAYS I'M NOT JOE BIDEN'S PUPPET, I'M MY OWN PERSON AND I'LL SHOW YOU I'M MORE MODERATE THAN THIS CHARACTER OF ME THAT DONALD TRUMP IS TRYING TO PAINT. >> THEA, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RULES OF THE FIRST DEBATE. MANY THOUGHT IT WOULD FAVOUR JOE BIDEN. IT WAS A DISASTER FOR HIM. AT THIS POINT WHO HAS THE ADVANTAGE PARTICULARLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE MICROPHONES? >> SO I THINK JOE BIDEN AND HIS TEAM INITIALLY THOUGHT THAT MUTING TRUMP WOULD ENCOURAGE TRUMP NOT TO BE SUCH AN INTERRUPTER AND DISRUPTER AND -- [ Inaudible ] THAT DID NOT GO FOR BIDEN WELL. HIS ANSWERS WEREN'T GREAT. HIS ENERGY WASN'T GREAT THAT NIGHT. AND I THINK IN RETROSPECT, HARRIS'S TEAM THOUGHT BY MUTING THE MICROPHONES, THERE'S BEEN ARTICLES ABOUT WHAT THEY CALL FAME WATCHING TRUMP, LETTING SOME OF HIS MORE CONTROVERSIAL OR PROBLEMATIC IMPULSES LITERALLY BE MUTED. SO I THINK THAT THE MUTING DOES HELP TRUMP. THAT BEING SAID, I THINK IT'S -- HARRIS'S TEAM IS SMART. THEY FOUND WAYS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE MUTING OR THOUGHT OF HOW THEY COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE IN THE SAME WAY THAT BIDEN THOUGHT HE COULD HAVE. HE DIDN'T BUT NOW HARRIS HAS TO WORK IN THAT SAME ATMOSPHERE AND TRY TO USE IT TO HER ADVANTAGE. FOR EXAMPLE, IF TRUMP DOES MAKE SIDE CONVERSATION, IT COULD BE HARRIS WHO TRIES TO ELEVATE OR BRING TO LIGHT THINGS HE SAID WHAT HE WAS MUTED. IT COULD BE USED BY HARRIS TO PUSH FORWARD WITH HER ANSWERS IN WAYS THAT TRUMP WON'T LIKE BUT HE WON'T HAVE THE PLATFORM TO RESPOND IN WAYS HE MIGHT HAVE IF HE WEREN'T MUTED. WE'LL SEE. >> YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING WHEN I HEAR YOU TALK THEA ABOUT WHAT IS. >> THERE'S A BAR FOR TRUMP AND THERE'S A BAR FOR KAMALA HARRIS. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. I JUST -- THE THING THAT IS SO HARD ABOUT COVERING DONALD TRUMP IS HE IS JUDGED BY THE ELECTORATE AS A CELEBRITY NOT A POLITICIAN. EVEN THOUGH HE IS A POLITICIAN, HE'S BEEN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, THAT BAR IS MUCH LOWER IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO ACCEPT. HARRIS AND BIDEN AND GEORGE W. BUSH AND BARACK OBAMA AND MITT ROMNEY AND ANY OTHER POLITICIAN YOU CAN THINK OF IS JUDGED AS A POLITICIAN. YEAH, IT'S REALLY CHALLENGING FOR ANYONE AGAINST DONALD TRUMP. WE SAW THIS WITH HILLARY CLINTON W JOE BIDEN. NOT TO MENTION THE FACT WE SHOULD MENTION THIS, LOOK, THESL MEDIUM. RIGHT? DONALD TRUMP IS A WHITE GUY WHO WE'VE HAD 45 PRESIDENTS, 44 WHITE MEN. WE'VE NEVER HAD AN AFRICAN -- WE'VE NEVER HAD A WOMAN OF SOUTH ASIAN DESCENT OR BLACK WOMAN, KAMALA HARRIS AS PRESIDENT. THAT MATTERS TOO. THERE'S HISTORY HERE. I THINK PEOPLE DO SOMETIMES AND THEY SHOULDN'T BUT I THINK WE'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN, THEY JUDGE BY A DIFFERENT STANDARD WHEN IT COMES TO THE BASE. WE SAW IT IN 2016. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE IMMUNE. THE FIRST THING THAT PEOPLE DO IS LOOK WITH THEIR EYES. THEY LISTEN, TOO, BUT THIS IS A PERFORMANCE IN A LOT OF WAYS TO BIG TELEVISION AND WHAT PEOPLE LOOK LIKE AND SOUND LIKE MATTERS. >> WHEN WE SEE THEM IN THE BOXES, THEY CAN'T SPEAK OVER EACH OTHER WITH THOSE MUTED MICROPHONES, BUT THEIR FACES WILL BE DOING A LOT OF WORK. THEA, TRUMP IS ACCUSED HURLING DEROGATORY COMMENTS OF WOMEN, POSTED MISOGYNIC MEMES ON TRUTH SOCIAL. I'M CURIOUS YOUR SENSE OF HOW HE BALANCES WHAT TO DO ABOUT WOMEN AND A FEMALE OPPONENT TONIGHT. >> YEAH, I THINK THAT IF TRUMP IS AS DISCIPLINED AS HE WAS IN THAT DEBATE IN JUNE, WE SHOULDN'T EXPECT THOSE KINDS OF ATTACKS IN THIS MEDIUM. TRUMP USUALLY SAVES VITRIOL FOR SOCIAL MEDIA SO TO SPEAK. THAT BEING SAID, I WONDER WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THE MODERATOR ASKS ABOUT PROBLEMATIC COMMENTS. WHEN HE WAS INTERVIEWED AND ASKED ABOUT THE THINGS HE SAID ABOUT BLACK WOMEN, HE IMMEDIATELY GOT DEFENSIVE, WENT ON THE ATTACK AND SAID EVEN MORE PROBLEMATIC THINGS ABOUT VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS. SO SOMETIMES WHEN HE'S PROMPTED HIS ANSWERS EVEN ON THOSE CONTROVERSIAL STATEMENTS AREN'T GREAT. HE'S -- YOU KNOW, THERE ISN'T A WAY TO EXPLAIN SOME OF THE AWFUL THINGS HE'S SAID. SO I THINK THE BIGGEST RISK FOR TRUMP IS NOT THAT HE VOLUNTEERS THOSE TYPES OF STATEMENTS. I THINK HE'S PROBABLY BETTER TRAINED THAN THAT, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF HE'S PROMPTED ABOUT THOSE STATEMENTS, HOW DOES HE PLAN TO ADDRESS IT? AND WILL THE MODERATOR BRING IT UP AT ALL? >> CHRIS, IF YOU FORGIVE ME HERE, BECAUSE THEA IS IN THE SPIN ROOM, I HAVE TO ASK HER ONE LAST QUESTION ABOUT THE VIBE. I REMEMBER LAST TIME, THEA, THE SPIN ROOM FOR THE BIDEN TRUMP DEBATE, YOU SAID IT WAS LIKE A FUNERAL. WHAT IS THE FEELING LIKE WHERE YOU ARE RIGHT NOW? >> SO IT WAS INTERESTING, EARLIER IN THE ROOM THERE WAS A LOT OF REPUBLICAN SURROGATES, GOVERNOR NOME, SENATOR RUBIO AND NOT LONG BEFORE I JOINED YOU GUYS, THE DEMOCRATS STARTED SHOWING UP AND FOLKS LIKE GOVERNOR NEWSOME. WE'RE PRE-DEBATES. IN THE POSTDEBATE, THE DEMOCRATS DID NOT COME TO THE SPIN ROOM. THE SURROGATES CHOSE NOT TO TRY TO ADDRESS OR EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED. WE'LL SEE WHAT KIND OF NIGHT TRUMP AND HARRIS HAVE AND THEREFORE WHAT KIND OF ENERGY AND QUITE FRANKLY QUANTITY OF SURROGATE SHOWS UP IN THE SPIN ROOM. I'LL HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT. >> I CAN'T WAIT TO FIND OUT. THANKS VERY MUCH YOU TWO. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> WE ARE ABOUT -- IF MY MATH IS RIGHT AND I THINK IT'S OKAY, WE'RE ABOUT FIVE AND A HALF MINUTES FROM THE TOP, FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE DEBATE. THERE ARE AS WE STEP BACK HERE ABOUT 6 MILLION ELIGIBLE VOTERS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES. WITH THESE RAZOR THIN MARGINS IN THE CRUCIAL WING STATES THOSE VOTES CAN AND WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE. LOTS OF THE VOTERS LIVE IN CANADA INCLUDING ALEXANDER MARINA AND LAUREN ALLEN. KIND OF BOTH OF TO YOU JOIN US. ALEX, CAN YOU HELP ME OUT HERE. WALK US THROUGH THE MECHANICS OF HOW YOU VOTE ABROAD. YOU'RE FROM THE SWING STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA. >> EACH STATE IS -- HAS ITS OWN ELECTORAL LAWS. WE'RE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND ALL STATES HAVE RULES. MY HOME STATE, THE KEYSTONE STATE YOU HAVE TO REGISTER, IT CAN BE DONE ONLINE OR THROUGH THE MAIL. PENNSYLVANIA PROVIDE US WITH THE BALLOT. eMAILED OR MAILED AND THEY GO OUT THIS WEEK. THERE ARE SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS IN REFERENCE TO THE BALLOT, HOW TO FILL OUT, KEEPING THE INTEGRITY OF THE BALLOT AND HOPE FOR THE BEST. >> IT'S NOT SIMPLE. IS IT THE SAME FOR YOU LAURA? YOU'RE VOTING FOR NEW YORK STATE? >> IT'S A STILL PROCESS. ESSENTIALLY MAKING SURE YOU'RE REGISTERED TO VOTE AND MAKING SURE YOU ASK YOUR ABSENTEE BALLOT FROM YOUR LOCAL BOARD OF ELECTIONS OR VOTE FROM ABROAD.ORG. ONCE THAT BALLOT COMES, FILL THAT OUT. FOR ME, I'LL BE VOTING FOR. CAM HAIR AND MAIL IT BACK ASSOOE THAT EVERY SINGLE VOTE COUNTS. >> FOR CANADIANS WHO MIGHT BE DUAL CITIZENS -- OR AMERICANS LIVING HERE WHO AREN'T SURE IF THEY'RE REGISTERED, DO THEY HAVE TIME TO REGISTER NOW? ALEX? >> THEY DO. EVERY STATE HAS A DEADLINE. PENNSYLVANIA YOU CAN GO ON AS OF THIS EVENING, REGISTER TO BE PUT ON THE ROLL CALL AND RECEIVE A BALLOT. I CAN NOT STRESS IS IT ENOUGH THAT EVERY STATE HAS ITS OWN RULES. BUT ABSOLUTELY IN PENNSYLVANIA RIGHT NOW. >> IT CAN BE DIFFICULT SOMETIMES TO ENGAGE VOTERS IN THE UNITED STATES. VOTER TURNOUT TELLS US AN INTERESTING STORY. I ASSUME IT MIGHT BE A BIT HARD TORE GET THOSE OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY TO BE ENGAGED. I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOU HEAR FROM FELLOW AMERICANS LIVING IN CANADA? ARE YOU NOTICING ANYTHING DIFFERENT LAURA THIS ELECTION VERSUS PAST ONES? >> IN TERMS OF FELLOW AMERICANS LIVING IN CANADA, WE'RE DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF DEMOCRACY, SO I AM HEARING AN URGENCY WITH THIS PARTICULAR ELECTION. WE KNOW THAT A LOT IS AT STAKE AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY HERE, SO I BELIEVE THAT MANY OF US ARE ENERGIZED. BUT WE ARE CONCERNED AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE MAKING SURE TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET OUT THE VOTES AND TALK TO OUR FELLOW AMERICANS LIVING IN CANADA. >> TWO AND A HALF MINUTES AWAY FROM THE START OF THIS DEBATE. ALEX, IT'S -- WHILE I HAVE YOU STILL HERE, I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND WE'RE NOT JUST WATCHING OUT OF CURIOSITY. SOMEONE LIVING IN THIS COUNTRY, IS THERE SOMETHING POLICY WISE YOU'RE LISTENING FOR? >> ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN IF I WERE TO GIVE ANY ADVICE TO PRESIDENT TRUMP, HIT HOME ON THE CORNERSTONE ISSUES, THE ECONOMY, IMMIGRATION AND KAMALA HARRIS' INABILITY TO LAND ON A TOPIC AND HER FLIP-FLOPPING BACK AND FORTH. FOUR YEARS AGO, THAT IS UNIQUE ELECTION IN THAT FOUR YEARS AGO WE ACTUALLY GOT TO SEE WHAT IT WAS LIKE UNDER ONE OF THE CANDIDATES, AND THE PREVIOUS FOUR YEARS BEFORE THAT WE GOT TO SEE WHAT IT'S LIKE UNDER THAT CANDIDATE. SO WE HAVE A GOOD IDEA WHO AND WHAT THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE A PEOPLE REMEMBER 2016 TO 2020 TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE AND NOT FEEL MUGGED TO WALK OUT. AFFORDS RENT, MORTGAGE, GET THE EXTRAS WHICH UNDER A HARRIS BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HASN'T BEEN A REALITY. IMMIGRATION IS A DISASTER. LIKE TORRENT, SHE WAS THE BOARDR CZAR. THEY'VE BEEN EATING AWAY AT RESOURCE THAT IS AMERICANS, TAX PAYING AMERICANS SHOULD BE USE. WHEN THEY LET HER OUT OF THE BASEMENT, SHE DOESN'T DAY QUESTIONS DO INTERVIEWS. HER PUFF PIECE MUCH CNN FOR 6 -- >> OKAY... >> WE NEEDS TO HOLD HER FEET TO THE FIRE AND SEE WHAT HER ISSUES ARE. >> ALEX, I HAVE TO KIT YOU OFF HERE. WE HAVE TO GIVE. >> VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS IS WORKING. SHE MAY NOT BE AS MUCH IN THE MEDIA AS DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE HE'S TAKING TO TIME TO WORK FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. SHE'S ONE OF THE MOST QUALIFIED PEOPLE TO EVER RUN FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND WE'RE LOOKING TO VOTING HER