Pat McAfee Show at WVU | West Virginia Football Q&A | Penn State

this video is brought to you by bet us Sportsbook and casino what a huge weekend it is in Morgantown West Virginia as the Penn State NY lions come to town to take on the Mountaineers but today at 12 noon something cool is also happening and that is a Pat McAfee show will be live in Morgantown hosting the show there near the Life Sciences building and he's going to have a lot of special guests on the show former Mountaineers current Mountaineers Neil Brown Ren Baker going to be a great show so I thought you know what why not do a live stream leading up to that let's answer some some questions that I posted on X a few days ago let's talk Penn State West Virginia football let's raise some money for a good cause and let's celebrate this great weekend in Morgantown you know and I want to thank each of you for coming in want to give a shout out real quick to my channel sponsors bet Us online sports book and Casino in cats canther Stone Street and Buckner attorneys at law if you need a 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post some post some questions on X a few days ago I'm going to answer those I'm going to draw them the names out of this goodlooking [ __ ] skin cap going to answer those questions we're going to have a couple special guests appearing later in the show couple Mountaineer fans couple fellow podcasters we're also we also have a very special guest coming on here in about 15 minutes that I think you guys are going to be thrilled about don't want to spoil the surprise but uh this is a special episode too because I saw on X yesterday yesterday Oliver straw the West vir punter put this out he says this year I am dedicating every punt I land inside the opponent's 20 yard line this year to help Landon jaggie a teenager from Clarksburg West Virginia to help him punt cancer pledge a donation at the Lincoln bio to help support Landon let's go ears so what I decided to do I was planning on doing this show today anyway and I thought you know what why not do my part use my platform to support this great cause we saw Garnet Hollis Jr the defensive back do something similar last week Alli straws doing it this week and you know I didn't want to pick favorites but since this one was more recent and I saw that where Garnet's goal had already been reached I thought you know what let's let's uh let's chip in and help this young man can't go wrong helping a young man who's battling cancer I think we all you know can sympathize with this young man and his family so I'm going to any Super Chat you guys want to give today I will donate my portion of that obviously YouTube's going to take their cut but any portion that would be mine I'm donating that to Landon jaggie through Champs Rays who is the uh platform that Oli is using here so just letting you guys know any Super Chat you give me today I'm not keeping I'm donating it directly to to Champs Ray to help Landon jaggie so just wanted to uh point that out and let you guys know my plans here for the show today all right let me see who all in the chat so far we've got Browns and beers we've got Joey Foster in the house thank you Joey for joining the show Branson beer says hey cou going to the show today pumped driving up to Morgantown now just a bit south of Flatwoods man enjoy your drive if any of you listening to this on your drive home do not look at the screen while you're driving please be safe you can listen listen to my Appalachian voice on your way up to morgant toown the special guests that we have coming on you can check listen to them as well plan on doing this show to somewhere between the 11:30 12:00 hour we will we will uh we will quit but may may even go up to noon it's going to depend on how the show goes but I do have I still have to pack for my trip I'll be leaving myself for morgant toown later tonight after my wife gets home from work we're going to head out we're going to go somewhere grab a nice dinner or I don't I don't know how nice but we're going to grab dinner something we like it's nice to us anyway we're going to go grab some dinner somewhere we're going to spend the night in in in Weston tonight actually Weston West Virginia we're staying a little bit further south and because of room prices then we're going to get up in the morning and head up to the game man I couldn't be more excited what a weekend in Morgantown I was thinking about something you know Colorado's got all this attention on them right because of Dion and and all the stuff he brings to the table but I was thinking is West Virginia because of this event and and the pat mag show is West Virginia kind of right now at least today the second I I don't want to say the second biggest brand but the second brand who is getting the most media attention on them right now in the Big 12 I find that to be an intriguing conversation what do you guys think uh I mean the pat M shows in Morgantown you've got Fox big new kickoff coming to town tomorrow they're bringing Machine Gun Kelly with them Charles Wesley got godin's been in town he may even be there today you've got former West Virginia players showing up today Duce McBride who's an NBA player is showing up you have Pat White showing up Owen Schmidt showing up Neil Brown and rim Becker gonna be on the Pat McAfee show I mean I Pat mcafe is one of the biggest voices in all of sports right now maybe even in in pop culture in general and him West Virginia now embracing him and welcoming him back with open arms and him holding events in Morgantown that is absolute PR that money can't buy folks and I think it's going to do nothing but help West Virginia's image as far as you know students wanting to come to West Virginia maybe want to enroll in West virin people want to tune into the game maybe even and see hey I may not know much about West vir but I know who Pat magae is and he he talks a lot about them so let me see what the Mountaineers are all about and I I think it's awesome for for the program for the school uh for the city of Morgantown and and for the fan base man it's awesome that this current Administration is now in ring our former players much better than some past ones did the pat Maga now feels welcome back in Morgantown again and man I just uh I think it's awesome like I said outside of Colorado I feel like West Virginia may be the second program that's kind of number two on that list in Big 12 as far as how much uh outside media not not just you know Sports Media or Big 12 media but just media in general and attention that's going to their program I think it's really cool all right uh let me see what other comments we might have here if you guys want to make sure I see your comment be sure drop a super chat hit the dollar sign leave your comment and any Super Chat I'm getting today remember I'm sending it directly to Landon jagie to support him and his fight with cancer YouTube keeps their share I whatever share I would make is going straight to Landon jagie uh as a fundraiser that I mentioned earlier through that was presented by West Virginia punter ol Oliver Oli straw and I'm really excited to support that cause and that mission as as a dad myself I can only imagine what what his family is going through right now I can only imagine what that young man's going through and I wanted to do something to support it so I'm glad that olly put that out yesterday and gave me the chance to do this and the Super Chat is also a way uh you know to make sure you comment gets read yeah Joe moula too Joey great Point Joe moula was there a few days ago as well uh won't let me Super Chat only option to buy memberships anyone else having that trouble man I hope that's not the case anybody else having issues oh no well guys if it's not going to let you super chat this is not good wrong day to be for this to be happening I'm going to drop my cash tag there's my cash tag my my cash tag is in the chat um if you guys apparently it's not letting me I'm in the process man that sucks I'm in the process of switching my YouTube channel over to another Google account because I now own I now started an LLC and I guess because of that transition the super chats have been turned off so or let me go in here maybe yeah I don't know bear with me a second see if I can make a change here on on on the on the go on the that is cash at Pokemon let me grab pull up my account and see what I can do to try to make this baby see if I can turn it back maybe it's turned off or something monetization I want to be able to do these super chats to raise money well the cashtag should work Kelly I I don't know what to tell you about that I that's the right cash tag I'm on PayPal as Well's corner you guys his Paypal works vinmo too by the way yeah I do have vinmo it is uh let me look up my uh shoot sorry guys I'm having to do this on the Fly here I don't use Vio a lot so I don't know how to find my oh it's just at koza's corner on vinmo it should be koz's corner at all three venmo PayPal and cash app should all be koza's corner I really wanted to do this fundraiser for land in so let me see if I can turn on my maybe there's something going on with my uh uh yep that's what it is it's got it has it's still reviewing my new account or it's not a new account but it's you know I'm switching it over to a new Google account anytime you do that YouTube has to approve it that through the it's it's it's kind of complicated but anyway that's what the problem is I I I should have waited till after this show to do that I didn't realize it was going to cause me many problems but still cashtag me venmo me all at Ko's Corner PayPal venmo cash app all at Ko's Corner if you guys want to support Landon and and his fight against cancer here and again and and heck I you can also just uh thank you Joey for gifting the membership brother you can also I'll tell you what I also do I'll show again Oli straw put you can you can just do it through Ali's link this is Oli straws link if you want to support that way you can do that as well I don't know if I don't know if YouTube will let me post that link in there or not they're they're they're kind of funny about that kind of stuff but go to Oli Straw's Twitter account at alior all let me show it again on the screen go to _ straw you see a link on on his post there about about Landon and you can click that and you can pledge donations too to help plan it out that's another way you can do it as well so there are a lot of ways you can do it you can go to Champs ra.com and I'm sure there's a way there you can do it it's Champs c h m PS R A i.com a lot of ways you can support it since my uh since my super chats aren't working what's up mouth of the mountains we got Pokemon Kid Entertainment thank you Pokemon Kid Entertainment he says he sent money again and and the cool thing about it is if you send me money through PayPal cash Apper vinmo YouTube doesn't get any of it and I'll send 100% of that to to Landon so it might actually work out work out better um do I like the party hope you get to drink lots of beer on this great football weekend I don't drink beer I do drink Miss drinks occasionally uh runsy R7 not sure how much drinking I'll do because we're not going to be able to probably not going to have time to tell tailgate tomorrow because we're not leaving uh we're not early risers and like I said we're already staying like an hour away from the stadium anyway so by the time we get up there we probably won't have much time to tailgate so if if any at all big Aaron got gifted of membership and it looks like Pokemon Kid Entertainment did as well unless he was already a member who else we got in the house we have uh wvj WVU JK says that sucks man hope we get it working soon yeah I've got it soon as they you get my account reapproved it'll be fine it just the timing's terrible and I should have waited I didn't realize this was going to be an issue Carl surfus says good luck to Princeton tonight I'll be at the Bluefield Grant Princeton actually played last night Carl they they beat Capitol last night I don't remember I don't know what the final score was we have a very special guest joining the show ladies and gentlemen the young man Landon Landon jaggy himself is joining the show Landon how are you doing today buddy doing pretty good how are you doing I'm doing great I'm doing great we uh I got here I don't know if you know anything about YouTube yeah I do but you know you can give super chats and all all that well I'm in the process of changing my YouTube account over to a different Google account well unfortunately my super chats aren't working but because we're trying to rise some money for you for for you buddy so but I've got people sending me I've got some people sending me cash apps and Vinos and stuff like that so we're gonna have some money coming your way my my man thank you so much absolutely I know I really appreciate what Oliver straws doing there for you and I saw him post that on X yesterday and I wanted to do my part so much tell us tell us a little bit about yourself obviously you don't have to tell us where where you live or anything don't want to get too detailed here but uh I know you're from Clarksburg do you uh yeah I'm from Clarksburg are you are you at home today or where you where you at no I'm currently I'm at I'm at the hospital I had to get labs done at like 9:00 a.m. we're just now finishing up so I was hoping that I'd be able to join this whenever I got in the car but it's fine yeah I could have worked around your schedule buddy if you didn't if I needed to no no I'm just in the process of leaving so I'm just waiting on them so it's perfect perfect time that's cool uh we won't keep you on here real long I just wanted to wanted to introduce you to to the audience here are you at WV medicine Children's today or is that the hospital you're at yep okay yep that's hospital I get all my treatments and everything down that okay they're they do a great job there don't they yeah they do a awesome job Yep they're it's a great hospital I really uh really respect the work they do there but uh so tell us are you are you a m football are you a mountaineer fan I have a WBU shirt on oh there you go there you go I like it yeah mom mom made me wear my WVU shirt today because game day is tomorrow yeah so so you your mama sounds pretty pretty awesome yeah I was with Mom whenever the I don't know yesterday the day before and she was tell telling me about this and I looked up uh you're you so do you have like a set YouTube channel or is this like your YouTube channel what you're streaming on it's my YouTube channel and and I'm on I'm streaming on X too but yeah this is my YouTube channel okay okay okay yep because I was trying to I was trying to find it to see but yeah it's called it's spelled a little spelled a little weird it's C Zs yeah yeah that's my nickname that I had I've had since seventh grade yep that's cool yep yeah my buddies gave me that nickname and it stuck we got a comment for you here it says cheers beers and Mountaineers leaves a comment he says I remember when I was a young Mountaineer fan like you Landon the for the Mountaineers never goes away you have many fun Seasons ahead of you oh yeah love the Mountaineers yeah and you're 16 right 17 17 okay I don't know why I thought 16 yeah turn 18 on the 12th of September okay all right September birthday too really yeah 23rd oh like everyone know a September birthday I'm a I'm a little bit older than you though but yeah I'm I'll be 44 on my birthday wow I'm an old man not luck 44 well thank you I appreciate that if I grew my hair out on top I would look 44 I'd I'd look probably 54 but anyway um I've got I've got daughters you're about your age man I I got one that's about a year older than you and I've got one that's a couple years younger than you so I've got teenagers in my house so uh that's awesome so yeah we we live down in the southern part of the state are you familiar with with Princeton High School no do you know where that is I don't know where that is I live in West Virginia and don't know where anything well hey that's okay I'm three hours away from you man so I don't expect you to what high school do you attend Landon I went to Robert seabird Robert SE Bird yeah good school man I I know uh I have some some business colleagues who who's the kids went to Robert seabird so really y I definitely liked it a lot lot more than wi so yeah Browns and beers just made a great point we play pit two days after your birthday that'd be a good birthday present for you wouldn't it if the Mountaineers can knock off the Panthers I gotta I gotta get some tickets and come to some games this this season I hear you so tell everybody uh you know obviously I told you about the the YouTube issue I'm dealing with but you know people can send me money through PayPal cash app and all that what other ways is there for people to support you and and what you're dealing with right now with your cancer cancer battle [Music] B Gund my GoFundMe oh you have a GoFundMe okay yeah I have a GoFundMe all right do you know uh is it just under your name or what what's it under yeah it's under my name if you just sech search Landon jagie like GoFundMe it'll probably pop up and it'll have all my pictures and all my history of like everything that I'm going through on it so okay on Facebook yeah and my parents post a lot updates like all the time on Facebook so okay even when I have Labs they'll post updates what's the uh Facebook what's their name on Facebook what's your Facebook name um golden archer golden archer and then I'm what's Mom's Tammy jagy and then my mom's is Tammy jaggy J A GG i e j a GG okay all right I'm typing that in the chat box as we speak okay all for all right so I don't know if you feel comfortable talking about it do you want to tell the folks kind of what it is you're going through right now and and uh you know so when was it 2020 when all this happened 202 so 2022 I went to a trampoline park with a couple of my friends up here in Morgantown and I was playing dodgeball and I threw a dodgeball and my right arm my humorous bone completely snapped in half and I went to I came here to WV Vu and they found a tumor that was in my arm and I had to get surgery and when did I start treatment do you remember it was in December 2022 and I started all my treatment in December and then I got done osteosarcoma was what the type cancer it was okay and I got done with that and then it showed up in my rib and I had to go again through treatment which is what I'm going through now but it went from my rib to my lungs and I have like a couple other bony spots that aren't too big so we're not super worried about them we're just keeping a close eye on them but that's what I'm finishing up right now and I go on my make a wish this Sunday to Hawaii for a week wow awesome and then when I come back from that I'll have one more round to chemo and then I'll do a maintenance chemo and I'll be done because it's not coming back that'll be a great day brother I'll wait you gonna get to ring the bell and the whole bit hold bit when you're done um so I haven't decided if I'm gonna do that again I got I've done it I did it the first time but they told me if I wanted to do it again I could so I got to decide I got you all right that's I'm not too sure yeah well that's cool man I tell you uh I admire you and your courage and and you know the battle you're going through and the way you're dealing with it I mean you seem to be facing it head on with courage and and confidence and positive attitude man we can all learn from you young man I can tell you oh yeah there are people my age or older that don't have the same courage you have right now so I admire you for that thank you getage I don't let none of it bother me I'm just sick and tired of doing it all so I'm ready to be done I understand man I understand and we're ready for you to be done that's why we're doing this today to try to help you out and help your family out I know as a parent myself I can only imagine what they're dealing with going through right now so uh yeah we want to help you guys out as much as we can again Joey Foster left a link to Landon's GoFundMe page uh right there it is on the screen right now if you guys want to go to his gofund me support him that way again if you want to send me a cash app it's all at koza's corner czs corner cash app vimmo PayPal I accept all of them anything you send me 100% of US during this show is going to go to Landon and his family uh through through the Champs rays that he has going on or to or to his GoFundMe whichever but uh and and again you can go to Oli Straw's Twitter account as well on X and there's a link there where you can help him out through that um Landon man uh I'm gonna let you go because I know you're probably ready to get home oh yeah finished with your chemo so thank you thank you for doing all this absolutely I appreciate you I'm sorry the Super Chat thing is not working that's just no it's fine a funky thing that uh YouTube you have to be sometimes but how um what are what are you uh streaming like what what what are you going to do is it something about game day tomorrow yeah I'm just talking about uh we're kind of C you know Pat mca's in Morgantown today so we're kind of celebrating that uh I'm doing a Q&A I had some people send me some questions that I'm going to answer and we're just going to talk talk about the pen State game okay because I found I found you on YouTube on my phone because I'm on my dad's phone right now so on the way home or if you're still streaming when I get home I might join in and I'll chat some awesome that'd be great man if I'm still on here all right you're still on there I'll see you then awesome Landon thank you for joining us buddy all right thank you so much fight keep up the fight man we're behind thank you now we have another guest coming that was Landon jagie all please support this young man uh send money to his GoFundMe send it to Champs Rays through Ali straws link send it you know to me through PayPal cash Apper vinmo and I'll get it to him we need to support this young man and his family we have another special guest ear beard is joining the show what's up howdy C how's it going going great man I appreciate you hopping on here I know you're you're on a tight schedule today so yeah no problem I know we've been trying to uh kind of collaborate and get this stuff going finally got over to YouTube so now have the uh the equipment still uh need to get a microphone and a better camera but you know uh better late than never I guess yeah let everybody know where they can find you at on YouTube actually yeah so my uh channel is uh ear beard and then that's all my Social Media stuff as well Facebook Twitter or X and then I just got on Instagram I joked yesterday I have no idea to do on Instagram but you can find me there anyway and all that stuff is ear beard so it's eerb a r d of course you know I have my trust the beard podcast um you know I'm doing video now but also I provide the audio to it on Spotify and apple podcast so uh you know anytime you guys are looking for something else i' like to dive into some numbers and do some analytic stuff so if you're interested in that definitely check me out yeah he he does good work over there uh recommend go support his YouTube channel he's trying to get to thing up and running and somebody who's done it I know it's it's not easy when you start something from scratch like that man it's uh it's it's it's a labor of love I call it because you have to love it to keep at it because it takes time yeah uh when I started this whole thing I mean it's I basically try to do as free as possible uh just to get things started you know and it's just it's a hobby I love the the Mountaineers and I just want to talk about it but before we get into anything else I wanted to to touch on your previous guest and just talk about that I heard the last bit of it man I I I gota I pray for that family that's that's some rough stuff to go through and at such a young age and so I I'll definitely be making a donation one way or another and I encourage everyone to do that as well you know it's easy to get riled up about football and things like that but when you're dealing with something like that everything just kind of gets yep pushed to the side and and yeah I think about my life and I we of us can do that and just think you know how lucky we are to wake up and and not have to deal with something like that so yeah I just want to kind of put that in perspective for listeners and stuff like that that that's a tough thing for that family to go through so I'll definitely be praying for him yeah appreciate that man I am too when I saw Ollie put that out yesterday and I I knew I was doing this show and I thought man what a perfect what perfect timing and uh yeah I just as a dad myself and I know you're a dad too right so yep two little ones I Can Only Imagine what they're going through matter of fact I'm I'm getting emotional right now thinking about it to be honest with you may need to put some sunglasses on like you well the reason I actually do this it's kind of funny one of my friends called me out he's like why are you wearing sunglasses in in in the day I like well my profile has sunglasses so I thought I'd do it but I found out if I don't have them my uh my eyes Dart left and right and all over the place and it looks weird I was like sunglasses on then you know they can't see anything and plus it maybe it looks cool I don't know yeah Joey Foster uh Great West Virginia fan and podcaster himself put your YouTube handle uh YouTube handle up on the screen there so everybody go check out ear Beard's YouTube channel And subscribe to itk help help us get that thing help us get that thing growing Joey's a host over at West Virginia's voice of college the voice of college football West Virginia Channel okay with Mark Rogers there but he and he was also you know rip to Golden blue dude he was Al golden blue dude's producer I guess you could call it okay yeah before he passed and so yeah Joey's very active in the YouTube community so he's always promoting other other especially West Virginia YouTubers but other YouTubers as well yeah awesome thank you Joey I appreciate it um but yeah let's let's dive into the to the West Virginia football let's go dive in first off what are your thoughts on I said before you came on before Landon came on I think West Virginia right now maybe maybe I'm wrong uh because I'm looking at it you know from from the West Virginia angle but it outside of Colorado West Virginia is kind of the hot item right now right I mean Pat Maga shows coming to town you got all this me big noon kickoff coming to town it's pretty cool it's it's fun it's a fun time to be a mountainer fan right now and that's something we haven't been able to say in you know maybe six years right since yeah uh you know hogers since last year when we had all that hype with Will Greer and everything um yeah I I I kind of like it but also it kind of makes me nervous because you know as lifelong fans right when we it seems like we're going to turn that corner the rug gets pulled out from under us a little bit um but but the excitement you know I talked about yesterday we did our Mountaineer round table and I had my podcast you I used to live in Morgantown and I I absolutely Miss days like this uh being in Morgantown and just a normal kickoff is there's a lot of electricity a lot of Buzz you know cuz football's back right now you're putting a number eight the top 10 team an old rival coming into town in Penn State right you got big noon kickoff which you know if if people aren't familiar that's basically Fox's game college game day like ESPN has and so Pat McAfee coming into town and I I I can just imagine the electricity is probably just cranked up you know times 10 than what it normally would be and so I I think it's I like getting a lot of this attention for WW it's something we've lacked for a while but I got to give Neil Brown a lot of credit for this I mean these more so than ever this is his team there are no holdovers you know he only had one last year but more so than any all the coaches all the players this is all him and picked absolutely and that's what's generating this kind of electricity of course you know someone like Pat mcafe helps you know being such a I call him a huge megaphone for for WVU with a a national show and everything but you know Garrett green has kind of been you could say he was underrated but but coming into it I think people are starting to see that he actually is a very electric player yep and and I know people harp on this 53% you know his completion percentage well if you look at Aller from last year his was 59% so I mean it wasn't like he was off the charts and and I and I think that PFF loves Garrett green because they they pick apart these garbage yards and this this you know you think about Penn State last year we gave up that big 70 yard touchdown early well that was a a missed Tackle by auy Burks right so that was a 70 yard touchdown well 50 of it was the wide receiver you know the pass was only about 20 yards but Aller gets credit for it and I think with PFF they break that stuff apart and they realized that Garr green can put the ball on the money when he needs to especially deep and he he makes big throws and he avoids turnovers so I mean those are the two biggest things that you need as a quarterback is is putting the ball where it needs to be and avoiding turning the ball over yeah perfect and and Jared Hill made a great comment here regarding that you know Garrett was Neil's first recruit as my understanding yeah he was Jared says Neil's first recruit might prove to be his most important to his legacy in the grand scheme of things that is a great comment man yeah I had never thought about it that way right and I think it shows you know a lot of the early on in Neil's career I mean he got a lot of flak that we couldn't develop players right and and now you see his first recruit is is kind of in the Limelight and and we will the light won't be any brighter than it is uh Saturday you maybe on down the line at the Big 12 title or if we're getting a playoff or something like that but for his career this is his biggest game and I feel totally comfortable with Garrett green leading this team you know it's not like a Austin Kendall or a Dy where like well let's see what they do you know these guys play well and this guy helps out you know he we block well I feel completely comfortable with Garrett green leading this offense like and I haven't felt that way probably since you know um thinking guys of like Greer or Gino or you know someone that's just going to take command of it yep agreed but what I like about this group is I feel and look we we won't know until Saturday obviously and maybe even maybe even two Sat three Saturdays from now or two but when they play Kansas because you don't seal a whole lot against the FCS opponents but and Penn State might be you know you know sometimes when you play teams that are this good it's also not a great gauge but right we'll know how good this defense is in a few weeks but I feel like the defense I feel like this defense is going to be better than you know you mentioned the Greer and the Gino a couple of those years now not all of them but a couple of those years we had some pretty porous defenses yeah and I feel like this defense is going to be better than people think that's just me yeah I agree and one of the reasons is we have a lot more depth I think and I think part of it too is I know we lost some on the D line you know I talked about it yesterday uh what Mike Like Mike lockheart James herd and um was it duray those are the three guys we lost you know herd was a freshman but it seemed like he had real potential right and and I know it's hard to to replace that and D line is has bit of big importance for Neil Brown you know both sides of the ball and but I think with this defense is while you're missing some key guys at the defensive line I think overall the depth and the talent is better from top to bottom you know spread out throughout the defense yep and you have guy put on top of that you have a guy like Aubrey Burks who's a potential Pro um you know I don't I don't know where he'll get drafted I I don't know that much but I I definitely see a NFL future with him I believe somewhere um of course you got Trotter now who wasn't there last year he is a from what I understand an NFL prototype yep and he just looks different than everybody else and I don't know if you were there for the spring game uh I got to go to it and he made quite a few plays now I know it's spring it's kind of the it's a glorified practice whatever but you know I I think he'll make a huge impact of course you have lean back you know he broke his leg and he was really coming on and then you had uh is it Bradley yeah who had yeah Tyron Bradley Tyron Bradley had a good game against in the bowl game um I just think you have more Playmakers on defense than you had before and one of the things I talked about that we're going to have to do this year is our turnovers are going to have to increase a lot because I know we'll take care of the ball I I know I don't have any doubt about the offense we we got a stout running game you know Garett green does you know he can run and and avoid sacks and things like that and you know he doesn't turn the ball over so I think we'll be good there but on the other side we got to get our hands on the ball or put the ball on the ground and that was a staple from Neil Brown's defenses back in Troy um you know I I had a episode the other day about that where I looked back and saw what they did when they had those successful years and their turnover margin he averaged was like0 eight for those three years so I mean they're almost turning the ball over or forcing an extra turnover more than the other opponent and we finished last year at point2 so I think that's the the biggest step that we need to take um from any level is we need to create more turnovers and I think that'll take us from like the nine and4 bowl game to possibly being in Dallas at the end of the year yeah I agree and even with this game I said in my preseason prediction show with Jonathan Martin um I think two turn one of the keys of the game for me was turnovers I think West needs to win the turnover battle by about turnover battle by two to be honest with you to try to steal a couple extra possessions from Penn State uh burn clock eat up clock keep that off because you know Penn State's defense is really good it's going to be the best defense wam plays all year I think so in order and even though I have faith in our offense uh that defense is could could be they they could be on the you know in the elite category you know obviously we don't know yet because it's all on paper right now but you know so I'm not sure how many points West is gonna be able to score on them so they need as many possessions as possible yeah we definitely at least have to win the turnover battle sure I mean I think that's just going to be a key to one of the victories and like you said um you know possession of the ball offense we have to be efficient I don't think we can afford to waste plays and you know I did this on the episode the other day and it's just through the first quarter against Penn State last year they scored their first touchdown in four plays now we eventually tied up the game and I forget how many total plays we ran but we had had five extra plays that we had to run because of a missed a missed pass by Garrett green or you know CJ Donaldson ran into the back of Zack Frasier where if he cut a little bit to the right he probably had an open Lane to the end zone and there was a a huge pass to Carter downfield and you know the ball just sailed so high that Carter actually had to wait for it now it was a huge play like 30 yards down field but if he gets it more on the money has less air under it is probably walking into the end zone right so it's it's little things like that that I think the offense has to work on as well and and to be able to to win is just be efficient make the most out of every play and when you see those opportunities I think we have to take advantage of them agreed I mean I've heard you know I've heard Coach Brown talk about winning in the margins they have to win in the margins it's exactly it's just the small things that they need to do you know you look at a program like Kansas State that's how they've always been successful you know Kansas State doesn't have a ton of money they don't get a bunch of fivestar recruits but they very seldom hurt themselves yeah they're fundamentally sound they don't turn it over and they block and tackle right I mean you know what I mean it's just it's they just do the little things right right it's fundamental football yeah and and they've always even with clim now clownman has gotten I mean I'm not saying they never I mean obviously Avery Johnson was a f five star kid I believe or at least four star so they do get some of those kids occasionally but for the most part they're like West Virginia they're having to play what they're having to take third star kids and developed them right yeah and they've been able to do that and they've done it by playing mistake free football and you know a team that doesn't hurt themselves it's hard to beat yeah and I and I brought that up the other day too that um I compared Kansas Kansas State Iowa and Oklahoma state with all the stats I went through those are the big four right really returning um you know they all finished ahead of us last year in the Big 12 we we play them all this year they've they've all had consistent success in like you know the last four or five years and Kansas state was at the top of the league and their turnover margin at one per game so they were they were forcing one turnover more than their opponent every game and that's one of the reasons they're they're doing so well but like you said they do the little things right now the one thing about Neil Brown I like is I know we've had some bad penalties in in weird places like last year with Garrett green taking his helmet off and stuff like that but overall we've been a pretty disciplined team I think we've averaged about 50 yards per game roughly and if you go back and look at his time at Troy they were about the same so it's kind of a staple of his programs right obviously I think the the when you get more of his players in and developed and you know these High character guys that take accountability and work on that stuff that'll show out on the field more so it's something I look I look forward this year to to be the same um you know just to be more disciplined and and hopefully with guys like Garrett green and CJ Donaldson you know they got those Ticky Tac fouls taking their helmet off I'm hoping last year even though we went nine and four and had a good season I hope there was a lot of U Learning experiences right that they can take and move forward and realize that here's the things you can do here's the things you can't do and so that's kind of The Next Step that some of these guys need to take we we know they're talented we know they rack up yards and and make big throws and big plays but now it's those little marginal things that we have to button up um you know if you're going to take it to the next level agreed and I think the I think the uh addition of Drew Fabi onic can't be can't be oh yeah talked about enough yeah you you talked about the length earlier not and that think about the effect that'll have on special teams too you know block more kicks how many kicks did western block last year two three two and bought two in the T yeah two in the TCU game alone yeah one to to win the game basically yeah you know that two years ago they blocked the kick to beat Virginia Tech or help help beat Virginia Tech in blackburg I mean that kind of stuff matters and again length athleticism fundamentals it all comes down to that yeah and I'm glad you brought up Drew because I I think that's just a I think having him is almost like a goal mine for WVU because you know we're not going to recruit the best guys and now with the transfer portal you know a lot of these guys are shifting around and and you know we have a decent pretty good nil fund now with the Country Roads trust right you can pay those players but now with him you can scout guys that maybe are under the radar and not necessarily look at the stars next to their name but how they fit into your scheme and what they're going to do and we've seen with that you know we are bringing in bigger bodies and more length and I think that's you know crucial for any successful team but now you're be now you're able to find them in places you normally wouldn't like we pulled um Garnet Hollis from from Northwestern yep you it's not really a guy that would have been on our radar typically um and so he has a lot of experience we're bringing him in uh bringing him in to replace beanie bishop and you know hopefully he can develop uh just as well as he did and but I have confidence now that I think he's been on the the staff Drew has what a couple years now I think he started or know he started last um a was it yeah July July or August yeah right before the season really yeah so he's kind of had a full year to assess everybody and it's not just recruiting like I think he's assessing the players and knows what they need to do to get to the next level correct and that's priceless if you have that knowledge you can close that Gap to where you need to be to play at the next level then you're just going to be that much better at this level yep agreed um Denny Allen who's a VIP member here he says C's your PFF rating comparison of Penn State and West Virginia's current and incoming players was pretty eye opening yeah it was eye opening to me too Denny as I sat down and done it I didn't expect West Virginia to be that close back to what ear beard said earlier I mean West Virginia lost guys like Mike lockheart and yeah they were I'm not saying they were bad players but when you look at their PFF grades they weren't very good right the guys they brought in graded out much better last year than the guys they lost and then when you compare West Virginia starters to pin States they both average about 70 yeah overall now I I understand I didn't I don't know exactly know what Penn State starting lineup was going to be heck I don't even know West Virginia's fully I'm only going by what I found in my research so P some pen State fans came after me for that they're like this guy's not even a starter I'm like how the heck am I supposed to know they didn't release a depth chart for crying out loud but anyway um that's you that's get used to that because that's going to happen to you too by the way oh but that's part of it right that you know but no you take the B the good right but uh the point being though West Virginia's Talent Gap is not as big as people think at least according to PFF now I know PFF is not the end all Beall some people don't even like it but it's used by it's used by a lot of people in the industry so it must be fairly accurate or people wouldn't be using it so yeah I think it's it's one of those things you know in in the it's not everything but it's something you know what I mean I think it's a it's a bigger piece of the puzzle than what people want want to admit or even realize and you know last year we had some of the returning starters at safety and I kept seeing Aubrey Burks on those lists and that surprised me because I didn't you know I didn't pay that much attention I was like you know is he really that good and of course you know we see last year that yeah he is that good MH and yeah you know he missed some games because because of his concussion um but our but our last secondary coach um can't think of his name he moved off to Troy to be the dcoin Dante rght yep yeah Dante Wright he was talking about you know from day one last year you know Aubrey Burks was was treating this like this is you know this is a contract you know he's he's being a professional and I think that's one of the great things that Neil Brown has brought to this program with his coaches is teach teaching these guys what it means to be professional and play at the next level because if you're already doing that as a sophomore and a junior I mean that that's going to reflect on the field yeah it and I sorry I didn't mean to cut you off but I was say to me I can even see and maybe I'm reading too much into this but when I watch press conferences of players they're intelligent they're mature they're grown men basically whether whether no matter how old they are they are grown men and I think it I think you can look at that and kind of get a feel for the type of people Neil Brown is recruiting like yeah and I'm not saying Dana hogerson was recruiting a bunch of you know uh Knuckleheads yeah knucklehead I couldn't think of the right word but but I'm that's not what I'm trying to say but I just think I don't know I just it just seems different in some there's something different about the the the culture he's building here and I think that's why the in my opinion is on the right right trajectory right now they're definitely what you what I would call High character yeah and you know one of the things he's instilled that I see a lot is is uh accountability and I know that he brings it on himself as well he's talked about it before that you know he's going to tell a player what they need to do he's going to be straight with him and he does that with recruits as well and I think he kind of has this mentality that if you don't want to play here if if you're not going to be committed I don't want you here I'm not going to try to bring in a five-star guy just because you're five star but if you're not committed to what we're doing then you might as well be a three star because you're not gonna get the most out of them and so I think those are the kind of guys that he likes to recruit I think it shows U and like you said in the interviews they they all seem well spoken levelheaded um you know just ready to go and I think they buy into what he has or or what he's been preaching to him and I think they have that accountability they understand that you know the only way they're going to get in the field is if they they follow the plan you know in the off season and things like that and and productivity you know I know they grade these guys out like every day yeah and they keep track I heard balow Marshall talk about it he's like every day these guys know exactly where they stand right I think that's the communication part of that is is key because I don't feel like these kids are being brought in and lured with Promises of this and it doesn't happen like right I think they know where they stand every minut of every day he's a straight shooter absolutely yep well ear beard I know I don't I know how much time you got do you need to get do you need to get back uh oh I probably got a few more minutes okay good that's awesome good uh I I just didn't wantan to I didn't want to mess your day up Brown beer says I've heard PFF is like Wikipedia they'll give their ratings but the larger point of it is for you to go back watch the film on individual players and that's what helps break down what guys are doing that's fair yeah oh go ahead no I was gonna show real quick U I was going to show the I was G to look at see if the line for this game's come down any uh I know it here over at bet us uh still still at eight it was someone sent me a message earlier apparently on some sites it's went down to seven and a half if you want to get in on the action before that drops at B us make sure to hit the link Link in my description box take advantage of the 125% bonus on your first three deposits up to $22,000 bet us.com and please play responsibly but if you want to get in before that that number drops if you want to take the points on West Virginia make sure you do it before it drops again what are the what's the over under right now the over under is 51 and a half and then the spread uh is is eight eight I my guess is probably over if if you know I had my prediction mhm I had 2825 uh with Penn State now I I did say that I I fully believe that West Virginia can upset Penn State right I just don't in my gut I'm like it's hard for me to just say oh yeah they're going to go out there it's first game of the season it's so hard to to know but I think this is our best chance is then is Penn State coming to an environment like this um you know you got your new coordinators there's going to be some wrinkles at got to figure out and it's not like you're you're doing it against you know Delaware Duane or something like you're coming into Morgantown um right into the fire and trying to work out the The Kinks in your offense and and really I think part of the advantage with West Virginia is um you know the defense last year is not even the same as it is this year we have so many different parts and and PE and guys that are back that we that you know someone like Trotter M things like that that we didn't have and of course you know a couple new cornerbacks then Al also offensively you know Jem white didn't play last year so there's certainly elements that of players that we have coming back that weren't really featured in the first game and so I I think that'll make a difference I think we closed the Gap yep from last year but I I don't know if we can completely pull it off yet and I hate saying that I I do too I iict this to lose too here I'm gonna have to get on my knees and pray and forgive the football gods for even saying something like that but it's just it's just a gut feeling you know and and if we do boy uh I don't know if Morgan Town will burn or not yeah by the way I don't I don't usually drink this early in the day and I'm not going to drink drink much but it's it's National Jimmy Buffett day apparently in Florida Pat MAV is in Morgantown so I figured I'd have me a couple sips of a margarita there you go show but anyway I got my coffee here my this is my normal I'm not going to drink that whole that whole glass it's too early in the day yeah I made it I'm like why am I making this much I'm not gonna drink it all anyway um but yeah I I think I'd pick the over and I think I'd pick West Virginia the cover I think it's gonna be a pretty tight game um yeah I did pick them to cover uh I haven't placed a and I and I took them at minus uh I took them to be over six and a half wins on the year here uh oh yeah I I I feel pretty strong about that one as well yeah I need I need to pick the uh I haven't picked over under yet but I if I had a pick it I'd go under because I think they're both going to run the football a lot and now weather keep in mind the weather could be bad too tonight yeah or I mean tomorrow so that could play a role too who do you think by the way if weather's bad let me read this comment real quick from Big dan t but he says if we win the trench battle we win the game challenging but doable agreed big Dante T but man that P D line it's going to be good that's what worries me and I'm a little bit nervous about a couple spots on our offensive line I ain't gonna lie yeah um so we'll see yeah I mean replacing a guy like Frasier that's you you can't basically you're never going to replace someone like that you know maybe if you're highve state or you know Michigan or Alabama or something like that and you got another guy waiting in the wings but even so like what are the chances that you plug in a a a backup that's going to be a second round pick you know right with with another one so I think I think that's kind of like the O Line's kind of how I feel about the defense is is you lost a key player and and a obviously a huge contributor to our success but I think overall the line is is deeper and more talented than it was last year I think you have because uh you know a lot of those guys had to get some experience and we'll see what Yates is it Yates that's playing center now yeah and we we'll see how he did I mean he did pretty good at the bowl game um you know we didn't have any issues and so I I you know I like Matt Moore as our o line coach and I think it's proven that we can develop lineman pretty well so it's just time for them to take the next step uh in in their development and so I think their dline will probably give us issues but the fact that we have a mobile quarterback uh makes me feel better about it because we know that um Garrett green can scramble out of trouble you know if they're getting the pressure on us and things like that and and hopefully have some um some help some you know some safety help with uh Jem white getting the ball out to him and getting to The Playmakers and things like that but uh I was on a the the round table last night and one of the guys brought up a good point he said I think we run right at him you know and I was like well you probably do that to test out M how effective you can be I mean you have to you have I think they'll run the ball first because there it's going to be so emotional if if West gets the ball first maybe even if they get it second because the offense first time the offense is on the field I guess is you know it's still the same but there's going to be so much emotion in Adrenaline do you really want to throw the football unless you unless you're gonna throw it deep now if you would to come out and throw a bomb on the first play but I'm not sure you want to take that kind of risk I'm running I'm running I'm running CJ or or Jem play one of the game that's I kind of go I kind of agree with that it's probably gonna be expected but I still think you do it like you said just to get a feel for how well the O Line's going to be able to block kind of see what pen State's doing how their D is going to react right kind of get and and it's good to get hit and get the Jitters out oh yeah I know hogerson used to always say that about Skyler Howard he's like he liked him to get hit because it kind of got the yeah like said you know once the ball kicks you they always talk about this is Super Bowl it's just a football game you know all the hype and all the the the pregame stuff goes away and you just have to play football and so and I think tomorrow's going to be at least the first quarter is going to be a real chess match and I think you have to run at them uh you know you have to test your o line and test your running backs and test their dline and see what uh see what they're made of and see if you're going to be able to do this for the rest of the game so I agree I think they keep out they come out running um you know it'd be nice to get some sort of big special teams play to help us a big turnover pick six or something like that I think something like that's gonna have to need is going to need to happen agreed West Virginia's got West Virginia's got to make some plays turnover Force turnovers block block some kicks or a kick something scoop and score right pick six and it don't even have to be a pick six but we will take it but uh but I'm just excited I mean I'm excited to see the new new new fa you know a lot of a lot of fans complain about the transfer portal I think it's kind of exciting to see how these new guys play to a degree you know what I mean yeah yeah it's I mean it's free agency for college football yeah so and I think it's benefited now with the caveat as long as you have the money I think it'll benefit a lot of schools it certainly has benefited us you to be able to to get guys that you don't have to and develop but you can pull them from other programs and kind of plug them in you know think about beanie bishop and and Garnet Hollis and and things like that where we have a need and we were able to plug them in but also to to be able to retain players you know have to have the nil money to do it um but I I think everyone was panicked about the portal and it was just going to be kind of the wild west and I always thought it from the beginning I you know the point I made was you know there's still limited amount of roster spots so teams like Georgia and Alabama and AIO State they can't hoard all this Talent right with the portal somebody's got to fall off and you know if they're they're recruiting four or five star guys and you're bringing in more portal guys from other power five then those guys got to fall off to the side somebody's got to get replaced and though and so those guys eventually will start trickling down to teams like West Virginia and things like that so I'm you know I I understand the the fear of it early because like I said you thought teams would just hoard it but you know they have to replace somebody somebody has to go if they're bringing in people so I think we've done a good job you know Ren Baker and the trust and Neil Brown and Drew Fabian I think all that stuff together uh really has West Virginia moving in a in a positive direction yep agreed totally agree uh real quick I want to Tammy jagie who was Landing Jag's mother in the chat or was in the chat at least uh Tammy I want to send my heartfelt prayers and well wishes to to to to Landon and to you and his family as a dad myself I can only imagine what you're dealing with right now so and I want to also let everybody know that I was looking as as ear beard was talking there I went over to Champs ra.com and looked at the page they have for landing there that Oli straw is is uh you 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our wide receivers are able to beat some of that press man I know that was something we struggled with last year um and you hopefully hopefully another year you know bigger stronger under Mike Joseph in that program um you know I think of a guy like Hudson Clement who just seems like he knows how to make big plays know take the ball that extra step and and get extra yards and things like that so you know maybe you see a lot of Slants for if they're doing the Press stuff and and hopefully Garr green has has worked on his not hopefully I know he's worked on his short game uh I think he'll be improved there so I I just hope our wide receivers are able to to beat that kind of press man if that's something they see now I heard on um think it was might have been in the gun or something like that that the the defense that Penn State's going to be running this 425 and their coordinator it leans more towards like zone defense M and so I thought you know if if Garrett green has picked up his passing game and he can pick that stuff apart you know I I think we'll do do pretty well of course that's a lot easier to run against uh I think y you know it leaves a little more open space sometimes and so we'll just have to see yep agreed well uh ear beard I appreciate you coming on before I let you out of here I've got another guest to bring on but before I let you out of here I'm going to let you let everybody know where to find you at and to support you work yeah man thanks I appreciate you having me on absolutely it's been a blast yeah anyone uh if you want to follow me on social media um on Facebook and on X and on Instagram ear beard it's e r b a r d uh also you know a YouTube channel now same handle ear beard and I have a trust a beard podcast you can listen to you know I do my video version also have an audio version on Spotify and uh on Apple podcast so you can just search trust the beard or just search WVU um you know you'll see my little logo come up there but uh I I appreciate you guys you know any follows and and people have listened and subscribed I appreciate it and C uh you know I appreciate you having me on and absolutely man see new tomorrow glad we can finally glad we could finally make it work out yeah absolutely but anyway thanks for coming on man and uh enjoy the weekend and enjoy the game tomorrow are you going to the game no no actually I I'll be traveling uh um kind have like a little mini vacation yeah okay plan so I I'll watch part of the game at home and then I gotta run off to the airport so oh okay I told my wife she has to drive because I'm gonna have to be watching on my phone I'm with you I don't blame you brother listen have a great day enjoy your weekend and enjoy your mini vacation with your family all right thank you sir have a good weekend you too bye bye all right let's bring on another guest another West Virginia podcaster Mr Forest post from WVU football going deep forest how you doing uh I haven't slowed down yet enough to figure that out this morning uh oh question though is do we have any feedback I can hear you I can hear you just fine okay last time I was on with Joey we had major feedback options I was hoping had things effected but that's also why you're seeing my profile with this Arrangement right I can either look at you or look at camera well it's all good doesn't matter to me as long as we can hear you um thanks for having me on no problem I know we've been trying to work I was sorry I was I was I can actually adjust your mic settings on my end a little bit that's what I was doing uh but you sound good I can hear you okay um I always appreciate your I always appreciate your glass half full approach to the game and and to West Virginia as a whole but so but let me get your before we get into the game part of it let me uh get your take on I don't know how you know let me get your take on the Pat McAfee meeting in Morgantown today what are your thoughts on that overall I mean there's no denying it's big for the program yeah I mean you know M McAfee has a following he he creates excitement uh I'm not a fan of his show I don't like his approach particularly but I appreciate what he is doing for the program yeah agreed yeah I agree I don't I don't watch it I watch your show occasionally but I'm not like a Die Hard fan now my my future son-in-law he loves it it's he watches it daily so a lot of but he's in that demographic I think that that like it you know he's in his early 20s so that's and that's the demographic that West Virginia needs to attract in my opinion and even more importantly they need to attract kids who were planning to go to college in the next two three four years oh yeah because they need to get the enrollment up and what better way to do that than having Pat McAfee on your campus yeah it's hard to beat the publicity yep absolutely all right so let's get uh before we get into game let everybody know about your channel where they can you know what you know what I know obviously you cover Western football but just give us the you know you know what's your what's your uh Mission Vision whatever of your channel and where they can support you well it all started with guys like there's this guy named Koz who likes to go into the numbers a lot that guy's that guy's an idiot h no but it was a perspective and you know I mean numbers are one thing I'm more sort of what's behind the numbers yeah I like to ask the question of why a lot right you know um so I kind of felt there was a niche there uh that needed to be filled and kind of you know because I don't do the numbers you do people watch both of us I think they get a more complete picture absolutely that's a great point we need we need voices of all different perspectives uh that's one thing that's the cool thing about YouTube man you and especially West Virginia fan base there's a lot of us West Virginia YouTubers out there and we're all different we're not going to give you you know there's myself there's Forest at at WV football going deep go subscribe to his channel by the way there is you know now what is now locked on West Virginia with M Paul there's uh you know West Virginia's voice at college football channel there's I mean Jordan Jordan and and the guys over at Country Roads webcast I'm sure I'm leaving there's ear beard that was just on here there's the raspy voice kids podcast I mean just you can go down the list there's dozens of us but we're all different and that's what's cool about it and that's why I I I I think there's enough room for all of us to be successful in this space so but anyway no one person can do it all and uh you know we're really mostly not repeating each other so correct yep uh Forest I have obviously I'm planning on cutting the show off about noon when the game starts and I've got a Q&A to do and I'm gonna let you do it with me if you're if you're cool with that I'm up for that yeah I I sent some I put some questions I put a post on Twitter a few days ago asking people to chime in with their questions and I'm going to draw the questions out of this nice little [ __ ] skin cap that I have so that we don't know what order they're in now was that [ __ ] skin or [ __ ] skin C good point hey it ain't C skin but I like the name uh and it's probably not even real [ __ ] skin to be honest it's not the real deal it's I those are like three or $400 anyway Let's uh this is like the 50 $50 version off Amazon all right first question captain nii on Twitter says how many I'll give my answer and I'll let you answer how many all-purpose yards do you think Garrett green will get in the Penn State game also do you think Yukon pit NC State and Virginia Tech will join the Big 12 let's L the first one uh how many allpurpose yards do I think Garrett green will get in pen State game I think Garrett will end up with about 350 all-purpose yards that's about 75 yards rushing and about 100 and what 250 yards passing something like that for what do you think uh I'm I'm in the same range I was thinking 75 yards running at least um now of course we don't want him to we don't want him to be forced to run too much uh and a minimum of 200 passing so I'm saying I'm coming in a little lower than you at a minimum of 275 yeah but yeah uh he could easily hit 350 uh and question how well does the running game work that determines how well how B go or if they they may come in and just decide to go with the pass and surprise Penn State maybe but yeah I would say a minimum of 275 somewhere between 275 I think 350 might be the high end uh yeah you're probably right uh and I don't even think my ma I think my math was off I think I actually landed at 325 but Timbo who's a panel member here he says common come on 75 yards against a great Penn State Defense you all are nuts well that's that's part of the problem Timbo I'm not sure the other guys are going to get as many yards as I'd like to see them get so Garrett may have to run the ball more than we wanted to that's that's kind of my uh that's kind of my my thinking but anyway well I mean Al some people are saying Penn State needs to bring pressure which means man-to-man coverage and green is better when you bring pressure his numbers go up and man-to-man coverage opens the field for the quarterback because they're not watching the quarterback so if they do bring pressure and go manto man we could be looking at 150 yards for green on the ground great point now the next qu I don't know how much you get in the conferry alignment Force but this is a conry alignment question also do you think Yukon pit NC State and Virginia Tech will join the Big 12 I'll let you answer that one first I know they've been talking to Yukon I'm not that big on bringing in uh primarily basketball but again I mean you know the Big 12 is a big basketball conference so Yukon would fit uh I definitely see pit coming in uh NC State is iffy I what will happen I think is completely unpredictable right now what I want to happen is a different story and that's like pent Virginia Tech Louisville yeah I'd ra I'd like to see Syracuse actually yeah that's they're not a bad ad I actually I actually do think I I think Brett Yark will end up because he's trying so hard to do it I do think we'll end up getting Yukon into Big 12 not as confident about the other ones uh but I know that's his in goal is to get some ACC schools I think but uh so to answer your question I do think they get Yukon and we'll probably get a couple of the ACC schools but I'm not sure pit will be one of them but I do I I would I wouldn't be shocked if we get Virginia teen NC State though just just my opinion all right next question comes from Rock and rant who you can find over at the college football Mafia Network he says will Morgan Town still be standing if WVU wins it will be standing but uh it will be it be a big mess to clean up let's just leave it at that and they'll clean it up happily yep absolutely I don't even know if we need to both answer that one all right next one Brandon Bailey at WV Brandon who's also a VIP Channel member here he says if pen state was to beat us how close of a game does it need to be before fans start to freak out and say we are overrated so he's talking about the negative N I don't want to say that he's talking about the more pessimistic fans out there I guess me to me if we lose by three scores uh three touchdowns then I think some fans will say that probably what about you I mean there's some people out there it doesn't matter what happens in the game they are going to say West Virginia is is bad uh if West Virginia wins they'll say you know Penn State's overrated if West Virginia loses M if if West Virginia loses by a point some people are going to be calling for Neil Brown's job right there are people calling for it already oh yeah and I'm not so worried about that I just I want them to win and what what the people on that extreme say I don't much care anymore I hear you all right the Mountaineer guy says what do you think will be ranked if we beat PN State good question I think I'm just going to throw out a crazy number I'm going to say 21 it's probably about the right range um of course it depends on how we beat him how close it is how well I mean if both teams play well and West Virginia wins I think we should go at least into the top 20 uh if Penn State for some reason screws up and we win I don't think they'll move us that high but at least into the top 25 right yep we're on the same page on that one all right next question from Mountaineer Steve is PSU really that good or are they overrated like FSU was or is I'll let you go first on that one Forest well of course we don't really know know if Florida State's overrated based on just the first game of the season they may still play the rest of the season as expected um I don't think Penn State is overrated but at the same time they do have a history in the last 15 years of not fully living up to expectations you know so you know they come in rated number eight and then you know finish 12 to 15 which is still great inless your Penn State and everybody was expecting you to be number one right but I mean they're they're a great team no two ways about it how well they will play and how well they'll adapt to the new coordinators still a big yes yep all right here's a big one mountainer Paul from lockon West Virginia says the you start a tradition with number one since I feel like we are more skill player you over the years now with DayDay Jim and others coming up and obviously what we've had in the past or is there another number you fancy I considered 44 in bball as well and I didn't I forgot to show the rest of the comment but basically he's asking should now that you know we had Tavon Austin at number one Jim White's number one now should they start a tradition I guess giving our top offensive guy number one I'm assuming that's what he means here no if you do that you're gonna have one guy who's happy and a lot of are who are not agreed and also I mean what about number five what about number yeah nine what about you know what I'm saying I I think if you do it with one number then it creates a lot of great numbers out there and yeah you want competition but I don't necessarily like the idea of rewarding one player in that way reward them with playing time yeah and opportunities now if they're a senior and they want that number and nobody else had you know like Shawn Martin this year where he changed to five you know what I mean he he's earned his stripes he's a senior he's put in the work he's put in the time it was for a great cause you know what I'm saying yeah but you but again yeah you don't take it away from somebody else unless they want to trade yeah yeah yeah yeah all right next question Brian metf says should the John Denver Bowl be a three-way like the commander and chief trophy between WW Texas Tech and Colorado ah I mean it would be interesting uh I'd like the idea more after Sanders has gone from Colorado but uh yeah it's an interesting interesting idea but I don't know how the scheduling and all would you know play out yeah Timbo says WV is treated as they deserve you have to gain respect West Virginia beat absolutely no one last year and you think they should have been respected no way in timos a West vir fan by the way he uh he's just more of a I'll call him a realist Forest may consider him a glass half empty fan uh Tim buzzer big supporter of the show uh really appreciate his his support but he's you know he has a more a little bit more different view view of things for you want to respond to that at all or no yeah I just I I think he takes the the negative side but yeah you know that gives us something to talk about yep as far as the John Denver Bowl question uh I think it's hard in today's age where you have un where you have so many teams in the conference now the schedules are unbalanced I don't think it's re reasonable for those three teams to play each other every year and if you don't all play each other every year I'm not sure you can have a true trophy series if if you know what I mean um but but it was but but a great question now this last one this guy sent me multiple questions not sure if I'll have time to address them all but we'll try red Thunder uh says well his first question I'm not addressing because he was being he was just talking trash and being funny the second one was why is the Vegas over under for West Virginia 6 and a half with a slight hint to take the over I think he's talking about the season win total uh I think it's because people see their schedule and think they're and and don't see I think the outside world doesn't View West Virginia as being better than last year talent-wise to be real I don't think they spent a lot of time researching it um and West Virginia has arguably the toughest schedule in the Big 12 I think that's why they have that day number Force what do you think well I mean part of it I think they look they don't look at how the offense shifted in the second half of the Season uh they don't look at how much the loss of lean hurt the defense so they don't understand the offense is going to be starting out strong defense identifi the problems fix the problems like you know they they just haven't taken a look it's what happens if you look too much at numbers and not enough at the people right agreed uh Browns and beer says I think we maybe should have ended up somewhere near the back of the top 25 at the end of last season maybe just my opinion yeah I I think so too but well at least at least one one list had us in the top 25 maybe two yeah just not the major yeah Daniel Sergeant says prayers up for Max Johnson dude might miss the rest of the season for a broken leg oh I hate to hear that speaking of prayers don't remember don't forget Landon jagie the young man I had on the show earlier who's fighting cancer Oli straw is raising money for go to Oli straw _ straw on Twitter there's a link uh in his uh on his on his post there and I'm going to post it in the comments you can go uh send some money to this site and it goes to Lon Jag and his family to help raise money for his cancer battle a 17-year-old young man lives in clar Clarksburg West Virginia so let's support that and if anybody wants to send me a a venmo a cash app or a PayPal at kozza corner CS corner I will donate that to Landon so I was going to do super chats but I'm making a transition here on the channel and unfortunately super chats aren't working for the show so uh and I think there was one more question here on this sheet from Red Thunder he says is it worth it to come to Morgantown when Utah visits in 2025 he's a Utah fan yes it's worth it Utah is a beautiful I mean West virgin is a beautiful state our mountains are different than your mountains so I think you'll appreciate that and especially if you come in the fall when the leaves have changed and the whole bid I think you'll find it to be a great place to visit and it's a great game day atmosphere the fans are passionate we love our football and we love our Mountaineers Forest what do you say to that comment that question it's worth coming whether there's a game or not great point I'm yes Kelly if you're coming from Utah you should at least already know how to drive on these kind of Roads absolutely yep uh Kelly mccort makes a great Point uh land and jaggie also has a GoFundMe page for those of you who can afford to donate please go to the GoFundMe page as well it's Landon I think it's l a n Deen let me look at the spelling again uh yeah it's l n DN not o n jaggy Go to GoFundMe and look him up and donate money if you can let's get this young man to his goal of $3,000 right now he's as we started the show he was under a thousand so let's get him there Forest man uh before we roll I want to take one more look here at the bet us lines and uh give a shout out to my sponsor bet Us online Sportsbook and casino the line is still at negative or yeah at eight I'm sorry uh West Virginia is still eight point dog the line has moved down somewhere over the last few days do you think that eight number is fair or not yeah I mean you know it's fair it's better than when we were 12 and a half and that sort of thing yeah better than last year yeah I I still think we beat it yep I agree I'll took I'll took West the points uh what about the over under on the score 51 and a half total score you think that's high or low I mean that is oh I hate to even guess um i' I'd like to say that it's about right but West Virginia gets most of them I I expect the West Virginia Defense to actually be uh exceptionally good and I think it was Garnett Hollis who said we could be a top 10 defense yeah he did and if you look at what we did to Penn State the first two and a half quarters last year we may hold them under 20 points we've got the ability yep uh timbo thank you my man he G just gifted 10 memberships so 10 of you got gifted memberships make sure to take advantage of the early videos I release on occasion and I will also be giving you some shout outs in some in some videos coming up um big Dante T in the house says I got in when it was 10 and a half so Dan was a smart one and got in early um but anyway yeah I just wanted to show that again to get your take on the spread there Forest of eight uh I think it's you know I think it's probably about right honestly based on where Penn State ranked and where was gen not rank I think they are showing some respect in that that regard agree all right well for us one more time let everybody know where they can find you at well WVU football going deep on YouTube uh also under that name on Facebook uh and just going deep on X X Twitter and Timbo had a comment for you he obviously it's all in fun but he says Force those West Virginia shrooms alone and now uh I'd have to drive six hours just to get to you know West Virginia so yep well thank you Browns and beers I'm getting ready to call it the show anyway because I know everybody wants to watch the pat mcy show another shout out to my sponsors cats caner Stone Street and Buckner attorneys at law check them out at your lawyer yourvoice decom if you're in West Virginia Virginia new medical attorney and can't forget bet Us online Sportsbook and casino check out the link to them in my description box if you want to place a bet today please play responsibly and take advantage of their offer 125% bonus on your first three deposits up to $2,000 Forest thank you for coming on the show man thanks for asking love being here absolutely everybody have a great day enjoy the pat mupy show and enjoy the game tomorrow let's go Mountaineers Q Country Roads