Harris-Walz campaign spox says debate showed clear choice facing Americans

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BRIAN LLENAS OUT WITH TEAM HARRIS ON THAT. ANNE SANDERS JOINING US RIGHT NOW THE CAMPAIGN SENIOR SPOKESMAN. GOING TO FINALLY BE ABLE TO TALK TO YOU. WELCOME. >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME. >> LET ME ASK YOU LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT I SHOW MY HAVE GOTTEN OUT OF PRESIDENT TRUMP. MAYBE OFF SMALL CRACK OPENING IN THE DOOR TO ANOTHER DEBATE. IS IT YOUR BELIEF THAT DESPITE HIS NOT WANTING 1 MAYBE HE'S HINTING AT 1? >> I THOUGHT HIS EXACT WORDING WAS INTERESTING. HE SAID IF HE'S IN THE RIGHT MOOD HE MIGHT DO A DEBATE. HE SEEMS AWFULLY MOODY. I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S JUST WORKING THROUGH HIS FEELINGS AFTER TUESDAY NIGHT BUT AS A VICE PRESIDENT HAS SAID THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE A SECOND DEBATE. THEY DESERVE TO SEE THE CHOICE IN THIS ELECTION BETWEEN KAMALA HARRIS AND THE PROPOSED DIVISION THAT BRINGS THE COUNTRY FORWARD AND TURNS THE PAGE ON THE CHAOTIC DIVISION OF DONALD TRUMP AND HIS OFFERING REAL PLANS WHETHER GROCERY COSTS HOLDING COSTS, THANKS EUROPORT ARE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT SHE'S PUT FORWARD TO TAKE THE THINGS ON. OR DO WE GO BACK TO DONALD TRUMP AND HIS SHOW THAT HE LIKES TO PUT ON THAT IS VERY DEPENDENT ON HIS MOOD. BUT WITH AN AGENDA THAT'S PRETTY SCARY, MORE TAX CUTS FOR THOSE OF THE VERY TOP TAKING AWAY OUR FREEDOMS WHETHER REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOMS VOTING RIGHTS, THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S THE CHOICE PEOPLE GET TO SEE ON STAGE IN A DEBATE. SO SHE THINKS E AND PEOPLE DESERVE ANOTHER 1 AND I GUESS WE'LL SEE IF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S MOOD CHANGES TO ALLOW HIM TO DO THAT. >> YOU KNOW YOU TALK ABOUT THE FORMER PRESIDENT WANTS TO EXTEND KAMALA HARRIS IS NOT A STRANGER TO OFFERING INCENTIVES AS WELL FOR TAX RELIEF. MAYBE EXTEND NOT ONLY THE SERVICE WORKERS AND INCOME TAX AND DOLLAR COULD GO TO SOCIAL SECURITY AND THE REST. DO YOU GUYS WORRY BACK AND FORTH THAT YOU'RE DRIVING US INTO DEBT WITH PLANS AT THAT BOTH SIDES? $5 TRILLION DONALD TRUMP YOU'RE CLOSE TO $2 TRILLION FOR YOU GUYS. >> YOU JUST HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. INDEPENDENT ECONOMISTS HAVE COME OUT AND SAID PRESIDENT TRUMP WOULD BE WEIGH WORSE FOR THE DEFICIT AND DEBT THAN PRESIDENT HARRIS WOULD BE SPEAK STILL TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS. >> WHEN IT COMES TO PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THE DEBT AND DEFICIT I THINK THEY WANT TO SEE THAT PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO RAISE REVENUES TO PAY FOR THEIR PLANS, AND I THINK WITH VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS SHE'S PUT FORWARD A SUITE OF PROPOSALS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT REVENUES TO HELP PAY FOR SOME OF HER PROPOSALS. FOR EXAMPLE TALKING ABOUT MAKING SURE BILLIONAIRES PAY A MINIMUM TAX, TALKING ABOUT QUADRUPLING TAXES. >> ISN'T THAT THE PROBLEM IS WE DON'T REALLY GET THERE? SHE STILL OVER A TRILLION SHY. I KNOW THESE THINGS REALLY OFTEN TIMES ON THE LEFT AND RIGHT ARE NOT WORTH THE PAPER THE PRINT ON BECAUSE THINGS. I GET THAT. BUT IT'S NOT AS IF THE DEBT WILL GET SMALLER UNDER PRESIDENT HARRIS. >> UNDER THE BIDEN AND HARRIS ADMINISTRATION WHERE PROUD TO SERVE AS VICE PRESIDENT WE HAVE REDUCE THE DEFICIT SO I THINK THAT THERE ARE WAYS WE CAN MAKE GOOD PROGRESS. >> THE DEFICIT HAS COME DOWN THE DEBT WHICH IS A COMBINATION OF DEFICITS HAS NOT. IT'S INCREASE BY TRILLIONS. GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. >> THAT'S OKAY IF WE CAN PUT FORWARD A SUITE OF PROPOSALS THAT HELP FOSTER REAL ECONOMIC GROWTH THAT'S ALSO GOING TO HELP AND WE LOOK AT THE 2 MET CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR EXAMPLE VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS HAS PUT FORWARD JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO REAL PLAN FOR GROWING SMALL BUSINESSES IN THIS COUNTRY. RIGHT NOW YOU WANT TO START A SMALL BUSINESS IN AMERICA COSTS $40,000 TO GET OFF THE GROUND BUT OUR TAX CODE ONLY ALLOWS A DEDUCTION OF $5,000. SHE WANTS TO MAKE IT 50,000 SO WE CAN HELP THE SMALL BUSINESSES GROW AND THEY CAN CREATE JOBS AND THAT CAN CREATE REVENUES IN LOCAL COMMUNITIES. THESE ARE THE KINDS OF INVESTMENTS IN REAL WORKING AMERICA THE SHE'S PROPOSING WHEREAS AGAIN PRESIDENT TRUMP AN INDEPENDENT ECONOMIST NOBEL PRIZE-WINNING ECONOMIST HAVE SAID HIS PLAN WOULD BE AN INFLATION BOMB. HE'S OFFERING PLANS THAT ARE COMPLETELY ALL OVER THE PLACE AND WOULD ACTUALLY EXPLORE THIS ISSUE AND MAKE IT WORSE BECAUSE AS WE KNOW WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT LAST TIME THE DEBT INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN IT DID UNDER DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTS. IF YOU ARE A VOTER WHO CARES WHAT DEBT AND DEFICITS IS ON THE 1 CANDIDATE WHO REMOTELY COMES CLOSE TO OFFERING FORWARD OF PLAN TO TAKE THAT ON. >> Neil: YOU'D BE SURPRISED THE OTHER SIDE SAYS THE OPPOSITE. I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO YOU POST TO TODAY. NO SECRET OF THE FACT THAT THE YOUR CANDIDATE WON HANDS DOWN CONVINCINGLY SO. BUT YOU DO HERE FROM THE TRUMP PEOPLE THAT YOUR CANDIDATE GOT DIFFERENTIAL TREATMENT. SHE IS NOT INTERRUPTED AFFECT CHECK NEARLY ENOUGH OR AS MUCH IS DONALD TRUMP WASN'T I'VE HEARD HEARD SOME OF YOUR SURROGATES AND HER SURROGATE SAY THAT'S BECAUSE HIS WHOPPERS WERE BIGGER. JUST CURIOUS WERE YOU SURPRISED THE MODERATORS DID NOT INTERRUPT HER OR FACT CHECKER TO THE DEGREE THEY DID DONALD TRUMP AND THE END? GOING TO THIS METICULOUSLY PLANNING THINGS THAT HAD TO SURPRISE YOU SOMEWHAT. >> THE FUNNY THING ABOUT FACT CHECKING IS IT ONLY IS RELEVANT WHEN YOU'RE TELLING LIES IN THE VICE PRESIDENT WASN'T TELLING LIES ON STAGE. PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS. SO AND ARTIFACT CHECKS. THERE WAS MINI ONES COMPARED TO ALLOWING THE KILLING OF INFANTS AFTER THEY'RE BORN IN GOING BACK TO THE CAT AND DOG EATING THINK, CLOSER WHOPPERS BUT THERE WERE SOME AREAS WHERE SHE STRETCHED AND NO 1 BOTHERED TO GO AFTER. NO COMBAT INVOLVING US SERVICEMAN AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PREFERENCE FOR AT THE BORDER AND OBVIOUSLY OF'S VACATION AROUND IT DIDN'T SEEM BALANCE IN THAT RESPECT. >> IT'S ALSO QUITE TELLING OF A CANDIDATE WHO'S COMPLAINING ABOUT THE MODERATORS HOW HE PERFORMED IN THE DEBATE. I THINK ABC DID A GOOD JOB. I THINK THEY RAN A TIDY DEBATE. I THINK IT ALLOWED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO SEE THE CLEAR CHOICE BETWEEN THE 2 CANDIDATES, AND BOY DID THEY GET TO SEE A CHOICE BETWEEN SOMEONE. >> Neil: DID THAT SURPRISE YOU THAT HE DID TAKE THE BAIT AND IT WAS PLANNED THAT HE WOULD THROW THIS OUT THERE THAT SHE WOULD THROW THE CROWD SIZES AT HIS RALLIES, KNOWING THAT WATER CAME AND MAYBE THE ONLY SURPRISE WAS DESPITE THE FACT THEY WOULD ADVISE NOT TO LOSE HIS COOL HE DID. DID YOU EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN? >> I THINK THAT DONALD TRUMP'S TEAM AND HIMSELF WERE SIGNALLING HE MIGHT BE A MORE DISCIPLINED CANDIDATE AND I THINK IT'S NOT IN HIS NATURE. HE'S UNCONTROLLABLE, SO HE CLEARLY IS PROVOKED WHEN HE'S CALLED OUT FOR HIS OWN RECORD AND HIS OWN LIES. IS PROVOKED WHEN THE ICE PRESIDENT DECIDES TO PROVIDE THE TRUTH TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT SOME OF HIS BOMBASTIC CLAIMS HYPERBOLIC INCLUDING ABOUT HIS CROWD SIZES SO THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS ARE USED TO SEEING FROM DONALD TRUMP. IS NOT REALLY FOCUSED ON REAL ISSUES PEOPLE CARE ABOUT. IS UNFOCUSED ABOUT HIMSELF AND WANTING TO TALK ABOUT HIMSELF AND DEFEND HIMSELF AND LASH OUT AT PEOPLE WHO CRITICIZE HIM. I THINK IT REALLY IS EMBLEMATIC OF WHAT WE WOULD SEE IF DONALD TRUMP GETS ELECTED TO THE WHITE HOUSE AGAIN WHICH IS SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO BE COMPLETELY UNRESTRAINED SOURCING OUT OF THE SUPREME COURT HAS SAID HE CAN GET AWAY WITH WHATEVER HE WANTS. SMACK ASK YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WHOLE CROWD SIZING. FORMER PRESIDENT MIGHT STRETCH CERTAIN TRUTHS A LITTLE FAR. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO CROWDS AT HIS RALLIES HE DOES PACK A MYTH. IS CROWDS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY BIGGER THAN KAMALA HARRIS. WOULD YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT MUCH? >> I'M NOT SURE IF YOU FOR MARCHING CROWDS AND RALLIES OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE. WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WANDERING OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS 45 MINUTE LONG RANTS ABOUT ELECTRIC SHARKS AND HANNIBAL LECTER WHERE IS A VICE PRESIDENT OF. >> SEE SOME PEOPLE LEAVING WHEN I WATCH THESE THINGS. OUT HER THEY SAY IT'S SIGNIFICANT NUMBER. ANYMORE THAN THOSE WHO MIGHT WANDER OUT OF A COMMON HARRIS RALLY. HOW WOULD YOU AT LEAST ON THAT SAY WHAT YOU WILL OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT HE CAN PACK IT IN. >> HE USED TO. HE'S A FADED IMAGE OF HIS FORMER SELF. I THINK IN 2016 HE HAD A LOT MORE EXCITEMENT AND A LOT MORE PEOPLE SHOWING UP. I THINK NOW WE ARE ON SEASON 9 OF THE SHOW AND MAYBE THEY LOST THE PLOT A LITTLE BIT AND I THINK WOULD PREFER A NEW SET OF CHARACTERS. >> MOOKEN ARGUE OVER NUMBERS AND ALL OF THAT BUT HE DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY PROBLEM OF GETTING PEOPLE TO COME UP TO VENUES HOURS SOMETIMES TODAY. AHEAD OF AN EVENT BUT HAVING SAID THAT WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON A CANDIDATE NOW. I KNOW SHE SPOKE AND I BELIEVE TO A PHILADELPHIA REPORTER TODAY SO THAT SEEM TO BE THE FIRST SIGN MAYBE SHE'S ENGAGING IN MORE INTERVIEWS. BUT THE REPUTATION OR THE REP SHE HAS RIGHT NOW SHE DOESN'T WANT TO DO THAT. AND MAYBE THAT'S A CAMPAIGN STRATEGY. TO AVOID EXCHANGES LIKE THAT. I'M WONDERING WHY GIVEN HER DEBATE PERFORMANCE SHE SEEMED PRETTY ON MESSAGE WHETHER PEOPLE LIKE THE MESSAGE OR NOT. SHE WAS ARTICULATE FASHION HER FEET. VERY PROSECUTORIAL SO SHE SEEMS TO ABLE TO HANDLE HERSELF. SO I NOT MORE MEDIA INTERVIEWS? >> IT'S A FUNNY QUESTION BECAUSE AS YOU JUST SAID SHE'S LITERALLY DID A MEDIA INTERVIEW ABOUT AN HOUR AGO SO SHE TALKED TO 1 OF THE TOP BANKERS IN THE TOP STATION PHILADELPHIA. PENNSYLVANIA IS A CRITICAL BATTLEGROUND STATE. DECIDED BY 80,000 VOTES FOR YEARS AGO. YOU'LL SEE THE VICE PRESIDENT CONTINUE TO TALK TO THE PRESS CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH THE MEDIA AND DO INTERVIEWS. AS PART OF THIS CAMPAIGN. I THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE TURNING AND NOW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THROUGH THE FIRST DEBATE TO SEE THE CANDIDATES HAVE TO OFFER. SHE'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH THE MEDIA. IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE PRESIDENT TRUMP I KNOW HE LIKES TO HANG OUT IN PRIMETIME ON THIS NETWORK AND DO TWITTER SPACES WITH ELON MUSK BUT YOU DON'T SEE HIM VERY OFTEN SITTING DOWN TAKING TOUGH QUESTIONS FROM MAINSTREAM REPORTERS LIKE YOURSELF. >> HE JUST OF THE PRESS CONFERENCE TODAY. SO HE DOES EMBRACE AND GO WITH THE PRESS AND HE'S OPEN TO EXTEMPORANEOUS EXCHANGES AND MANY PEOPLE MIGHT CRITICIZE HOW HE GOES ABOUT THAT. >> SHE ALSO 20 MINUTES AGO CERTAIN OUTSIDE INSTEAD OF THE STORE AND TOOK QUESTIONS FROM REPORTERS WITH HER. THIS IS PART OF THE CAMPAIGN SHALL CONTINUE TO TO ENGAGE WITH THE MEDIA AND PRESS. PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL CONTINUE DOING 45 MINUTE LONG RANTS AT THE PODIUM WITH REPORTERS WONDERING WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT BUT WILL SHARE HER VISION WITH THE PRIORITIES AS A PRESIDENT. >> YOU OCCLUDED IN THE BEGINNING AND DON'T WANT TO MISQUOTE YOU ABOUT OBVIOUSLY HER STRATEGY TO MAKE SURE THE RICH PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE. THERE'S THIS IDEA OF A MINIMUM TAX FOR THE VERY WEALTHY FOR CORPORATIONS BUT I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOU THINK, WHAT SHE THINKS IS A FAIR SHARE. GETTING OUTSIDE THE BILLION ERROR COMMUNITY AND, BECAUSE THEY ARE RAREFIED AIR. WE STAFF TOP INCOME TAX RATE OF 90% OF THIS COUNTRY THAN 70% AND THEN 50%. IT'S BEEN DANCING IN AND AROUND 37, AROUND 40%. THAT'S FEDERAL TOP RATE THAT APPARENTLY IS NOT A FAIR SHARE IN YOUR EYES. SO CAN I ASK YOU WHAT IS? >> WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE CORPORATIONS IN CERTAIN CEOS AND BILLIONAIRES WHO ARE PAYING NOTHING IN TAX BECAUSE OF THE LOOPHOLES WITHIN OUR TAX CODE. I THINK WITH THE VICE PRESIDENT HAS PUT FORWARD AS A SUITE OF PROPOSALS THAT HELP BALANCE THE PLAYING FIELD WHETHER IT'S INCREASING CORPORATE TAX. >> COULD YOU ATTACH NUMBER 2 THAT? BECAUSE IF IT'S 37, 38 AND WANT TO GET BACK UP TO 39.6% WE HAD BEFORE THE TRUMP TAX CUTS, WHAT SHOULD THE TOP RATE BE. IF THAT INCLUDES THE RICH SHOULD THE RATE BE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER AND WHAT WOULD BE? >> I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SUITE OF PROPOSAL SHE HAS INCLUDING CORPORATE TAX RATE WHICH SHE SAYS WILL BE 20%. TALK ABOUT CAPITAL GAINS TAXES LAST WEEK TALKING ABOUT SMALL BUSINESS PLAN. SITUATION WHERE PRESIDENT BIDEN PROPOSED INCREASING TOP CAPITAL GAINS TAX RATE TO 40%. VICE PRESIDENT THINKS THAT'S TOO HIGH. SHE PROPOSED 28% SO WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THE ABILITY FOR TAX CODE TO REWARD INVESTMENT AND ENTREPRENEURS AND SMALL BUSINESSES ACROSS HIS COUNTRY. >> Neil: WHAT WOULD MAKE THEIR FAIR SHARE? THESE GUYS ARE GETTING AWAY WITH NOT PAYING THEIR TAXES UNDER DON'T WANT TO BE OF NOXIOUS. WHAT WOULD IT BE? BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE DOING WHAT THEY SHOULD AND FOR THOSE HUNDRED OR SO BILLIONAIRES WHO MAINTAIN A VERY LOW RATE, WHAT IS IT FOR THE WEALTHY HOWEVER DEFINED WITH THE TOP RIGHT AROUND 37 OR 30%. WHAT SHOULD BE? >> AGAIN I'M EXPLAINING THE SUITE OF PROPOSAL SHE HAS INCLUDING A BILLIONAIRE MINIMUM TAX INCLUDING EXPANDING FOURFOLD THE STOCK BUYBACK TAXES. THERE'S A SUITE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS AT OUR DISPOSAL TO ENSURE THOSE PEOPLE AT THE TOP ARE PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE IN TAXES BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM GET AWAY FROM THE NORMAL INCOME TAX RATE AND INCOME TAX CODE TO THE LOOPHOLES WE HAVE IN OUR SYSTEM. SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING BUT IT'S A BIGGER AND MORE COMPLETE GET A PICTURE THAN THAT TO TAKE ACROSS ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT ISSUES AND TYPES OF TAX GIVEAWAYS AND TAX LOOPHOLES THAT EXIST TO ENSURE THAT IN ALL OF THEM WE ARE ACTUALLY IMPLANTING A SYSTEM THAT DOES HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE AND DOES ENSURE TAX FAIRNESS WHILE LIKE A 7 CAPITAL GAINS HAVING AN INCENTIVE SO PEOPLE CAN CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THE ENTREPRENEURSHIP THAT MAKES THIS COUNTRY GREAT. SO SHE'S GOING TO CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT THAT. >> IF YOU KEEP RAISING THAT CAPITAL GAINS TAX THERE BE LESS INCLINED TO TAKE THOSE INVESTMENTS. >> HERE I AM ON FOX NEWS I THOUGHT MAY BE PEOPLE WOULD SAY PRESIDENT BIDEN PROPOSED GOING ALL THE WAY UP TO 40% AND SHE'S PROPOSING 28%. I THINK THAT AGAIN WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS SOMEONE WHO SEES THAT WE CAN DO BOTH. WE CAN BOTH HAVE TAX FAIRNESS AND WE CAN USE IN TAXCO TO INCENTIVIZE THE KIND OF INVESTMENT THAT REALLY DOES HELP THE ECONOMY. SO THAT'S THE APPROACH SHE'S TAKING IN THIS CAMPAIGN AND SHE WILL CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT THAT. >> WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMING HERE AND ANSWERING THOSE