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of International Football well I'm going to go I'm going to go with Scott Momin I think he is the most underrated footballer in the Premier League he's now left the Premier League for Napoli but he scored another of his trademark goals um from Midfield he bullet header for Scotland I know they didn't win the game against Portugal um but they looked for a long time as though they would and it was because of him I think he is going to be a huge Miss for Manchester United and I think a lot of the fans do like aists rather than guys who really just knuckle down work hard score goals uh they're going to miss him funny enough I I really like Scott momy as well are we missing something Dan Manchester United right to let him go um I really like him I I wouldn't let him go cuz I think he can do so many different roles and he's he just gives you know what you're getting but I do understand the fact people have got to go out to bring people in and if you want to change it up and he's not going to be in your first 11 obviously his money was used for ug who's going to play so I get it but no he wouldn't have been first on my list to go out the door that's for blind me know that you could could set up a series of ejector seats at Old Trafford couldn't you and Scott would be a long way at the back of the the queue for that but good luck to him and uh who knows he's turning himself into an international goal scorer we'll talk about Cristiano Ronaldo and international goals a little later in the program 901 as he said you can see all of them um on YouTube meaning you can't see pelle's goals it was an interesting piece of modernity by our friend I've got to tell you Dan Danny my my son uh he laughed at me last night join the cube maybe but he because I was saying you know um Cristiano Ronaldo is on the pitch and you know he's kind of chasing these records rather than putting the team first sure and then he went and scored he's done that from day one he's done that from day one yeah I mean 901 goals is not to be sniffed at he's a legend at these Club oh and I agree with you a lot on to this a lot of the sort of stuff that surrounds him I have very little time for but and I hate to say this um because there are certain people who are still alive who won't want to hear it he's the best Striker I've ever seen not the best player the best Striker though Left Foot Right Foot head just he's monster an absolute monster what's your golden moment what's your Magic Moment Danny of the weekend of football I I I like people coming back from rejection or coming back from situations where you think that might be it and I thought when I saw Angel Gomez come on for England to make his International debut after leaving a club like man united I think I don't know him I don't know anybody that does but my my instinct was he must have some character that boy because if you're leaving Manchester United um in in the circumstances that he did uh it's very easy and so many others have done it is to fall down the pyramid yeah to even feel sorry and fall off a cliff actually that's happened to many Lads um but what did he do he only he went to another country and to play at the level he has to be noticed again to be playing as well as he did the under 21 to him I know that's obviously the link with Lee car knowing him but the level of his performance has got him in the squad and I I always feel because maybe my own situation when I played was a little bit similar is that when I was at Liverpool and I was farmed back out on loan to crew in the early days which was a little challenge or test for me at the time that I didn't know it would have been easy for me to think that was it that was that you know I did I did have nights and days where I'm thinking what's my ceiling what can I actually do am I a championship player can I get what what is this and you have to find something within yourself you need help along the way of course good coaches good people around you but I I don't know when I saw them come on I maybe something with me is that a test of your attitude as much of as your mentality and your ability yeah yeah if you if you if attitude is an umbrella for strength resilience um determination a will to to succeed yeah and imagine imagine how he felt Danny because there must have been times when he did make that move from leave Old Trafford behind where even the most confident person would have thought W this this could be tricky imagine how he felt when he was pulling on that England shirt and uh and getting onto the pitch yeah brilliant moment for him and we'll see how I I suspect he's going to have a very very good career from here on in my magic moment comes from far away from the starry lights of Manchester United and England debuts a little story that I just want to tell you um from the lowest part of the Nations League um uh Thursday Friday um San Marino no actually I'm not you you don't know what I'm going to say to be truthful San Marino broke their duck after I think 21 years of international football and some of the most appalling records didn't away from home for at 14 years um and they are the worst ranked team uh in in the entire of the FIFA rankings last year they set up two um fixtures against St kits and nevas who are the next worst team in order to try and win an international football match they didn't win either of them and one of them in very controversial circumstances so they won that was great the team they picked on and beat was lichenstein and you thought that is humiliating lichenstein you lost to the worst team in the whole world so the following um game last night um lonstein go to jalter where they can things can get even worse they were 21 down after 97 minutes um they conceded the 97th minute goal to put themselves 2-1 down to complete a miserable humiliation do you know what after 115 minutes of football there were there were 15 minutes of added on time they got a late V penalty and equalized to 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goal seeking megawatt football oh it's in this Saturday exclusive full match commentary of Bournemouth versus Chelsea coverage from 7:30 kickoff 8:00 p.m. on talk sport yeah we'll get back to the conversation particularly about England in Dublin very very soon first though it's time to get an odds update with lad Brooks odds update on talk Sport with lad Brooks get money back as a free BET up to £10 if leg of your football five plus haer lets you down pre-match straight line aers only Al a 3 to1 or greater 18 plus gam.org so it's a big hello to Nicola mcy hi Nicola hey Danny how are you really really good and looking forward to yet more International Football I've seen to put my life on hold for the last few days try and keep up with it but the big games keep coming France played Belgium and after their home defeat by um sorry forgive me Italy by three goals to one some pressure on D desan and this is not an easy fixture no I think this is going to be a cracker we've got you know two of the top teams in Europe and and recent results make this particularly interesting as you said France are on the rebound tonight after Italy stunned them and they didn't look particularly inspired they had no answers to Italy but we still make them the favorites to bounce back here they're four to five in 90 minutes Belgium started the tournament on the other hand though you know it went really well they look to capitalize upon that they're not friendless in the betting by any means 16 to5 and then you've got the draw 27 to1 we know what France are capable of so I would be very cautious about you know riding them off and putting it you know I'd probably put their game against Italy down to a bad day in the office Belgium lost to France at the Euros one- nil um so you know we have to remember that and the same score line here is six to1 but France they're letting goals in they're looking vulnerable at the back so I I think we've got we're going to see plenty of gold here and you know for that reason should be particularly interesting France to win and both teams to score has been popular at 12 to5 then we got Kevin De brono who's in great form and he's 10 to1 to score first with a few looking at that okay listen thank you for that um England I think we we both have to be honest strolled to a victory um in Dublin at the weekend then next opponents are Finland I mean you know the Nations League was designed to keep people at sort of their level so Finland done very well to be playing England but I presume England are very very short favorites for that is it Nicola you know I'm really glad I'm talking to you tonight and not Adrian so he's not rubbing salt in the wounds but anyway I think we got to be honest there was a huge Chasm between the teams we'll talk about it later here on kickoff yeah yeah I mean obviously we've got Arland Grace as well to talk about look England Lee carsley very much expected to continue as winning ways against Finland and they got off to a perfect start in Dublin um but you know England they're one to seven in the match betting tonight much shorter than they were against Ireland so Finland they're massive price at 16 to1 the draws 15-2 to Finland again they were well beaten by Greece so two teams coming here H in very you know different mood I think Finland will be looking at another thumping here I think we're going to have a very big score line favoring England England win 3-0 that's just 11-2 as is 40 so H at home we think they're going to be pretty ruthless and um I think all Finland can hope for is is a miracle greish he's 21- 10 to score again Dean rice is 6 to1 to score anytime and Harry became the favorite there at 21 to1 thank you very much for that as you say the Republic of is have a chance to bounce back after that against Greece what are the AL on that game yeah well you know I'm a hopeless Optimist when it comes to Ireland um I was I was felt like that heading into the game against England on Saturday I was hoping for the new manager bounce um but look it didn't go our way we were obviously outclass there England are you know one of the best teams in the world so it was going to be very hard for for us I was just hoping the home crowd the atmosphere would kind of gear them all but it wasn't to be um and uh I think this is going to be a very tough game for us again um and the odds actually suggest we will do better than we did against England it's pretty close irelander 9 to5 gree are 13 to8 the draws 21-1 gree though they've got a better record for sure even in Dublin so that doesn't B well you know they beat them 2-0 in Dublin in the qualifying stages of the Euros so that result can be backed at 9 to1 we're not expecting lot lot of goal action though we never do when it comes to Ireland so the fa score favorite score lines 1 nil or nil nil both 11-2 one nil either side 11-2 but yeah Greece are coming in here definitely in the better form after their win on Saturday so they'll be pretty popular with the neutrals what do you think Danny have we got a chance uh look I was much much more confident that they would lose to England because like the Gap is evident to anybody um not looking through Green Tinted glasses um Nicola but they they you know against Greece it will be a tough gnarly old game and so they probably get I think might get a result out that I'm not sure they'll win listen thank you very very much indeed Nicola MC there always fun to talk to Nicola that was look all the latest ODS with lad Brooks it's 18 plus and be gambl we.org odds update on talk Sport with lab Brooks supercharge your odds with our odds boost button selected markets applies the first 50b of Stak terms of play on the field and they are in an absolutely torrential rainstorm getting ready for this game and the pitch condition should be very interesting underfoot once this match gets underway Craig Bellamy has rotated following the nil nil draw against turkey on Friday five changes there's a debu and goal for Carl darlo at the age of 33 Chris meam comes into the back three Ole Cooper of Swansea also in Midfield with Kea Moore and Lewis kumas in attack and the captain Aaron Ramsey is one of the players who starts this game on the bench Dean Saunders 75 caps for Wales is alongside me and what were Wales missing on Friday and what was in terms of a performance a lot more impressive than what they've been producing recently um yeah good signs uh organized football from Craig he's got them uh they look like they know what they're doing they look like they you know they're they're similar to the the type of football that man city try and play and Burnley try and play which is Total Football um good performance of Maron Ramsey lots of good things happened the other night unfortunately we never scored a goal and that's four games we haven't scored so this is five tonight but the conditions are that bad I used to love playing in conditions like this it's just got mistakes written all over it rebounds off the keeper and it'll be down to maybe LS kumas key for more I don't know what formation he's going to play but someone needs to step up and bang some goals in for us as for Montenegro Robert preni the Croatian Legend is their coach and there's also recall for the veteran former Manchester City Striker Stefan ytic and the fans in nickit have also unfilled a huge Banner on the far side in memory of Matia saric the Montenegro and goalkeeper of course who tragically lost his life whilst playing for mil wall he died over the summer and he has been remembered in nickit this evening we get underway over on talk sport 2 for full commentary in 5 minutes time thank you very much to Nigel and Dean there um now I think the next selection will be of particular interest to Danny Murphy his cousin Ben fucher is the New England under 21 coach they've got a game against austrias under 21s with the team us from that game Ian Abrahams yes Danny welcome to kth Road you uh slightly sto my thunder there because Ben futcher is part of a footballing dynasty that goes and reads like this his dad Paul played here for Luton his uncle Ron played here for Luton his other Uncle Graham played for Chester um his one of his cousins Steven played for rexon but the best of the whole lot was a certain Danny Murphy who of course played for Liverpool amongst others ful and Blackburn Charon you can insert whichever Club you like uh tonight now it's all about Uncle Ben and Uncle Ben has picked a team which shows seven changes to that Drew nil nil with Northern irand rather surprisingly a draw with Northern irand on Friday for this friendly uh the only four to remain are Morgan Rogers of villa James mcy and the two at the back Taylor Harwood Bell is the Saints C Defender who's Captain tonight and Joel qua who of course is at Liverpool so James Beetle makes his debut in goal the back four Jack hinwood likewise makes his debut Quant Howard Bellis and Lewis Hall this his first start tonight for the under 21's the Newcastle Defender um Alex Scott and Tyler Morton are the two holding players in Midfield with James mcy behind the front three probably of Sam illing and Morgan Rogers the two Villa players and the IPS Striker Liam dap austri the opponents here tonight this is ahead of two crucial qualifiers coming up next month for Ben futcher and like of course Lee carsley he is interim at the moment but I'm sure he wants the job on a permanent basis doesn't he Danny I'm sure he does to you Dan yeah I'm sure he does now have have you been in touch Danny with him because there's a huge exciting upgrade in in his professional life is yeah I spoke I spoke to him last week um really excited I I watched the game uh Friday I mean they did everything but score I was I've never been so engaged in an under 21 game I was less engaged when I played um nothing like a bit of family bi you know what I was desperate you know when you just wait willing the ball to go in but didn't I mean I thought thought the lap made a difference when he come on I'm pleased he's St tonight but yeah let let's hope they get a win Mo you know you know what when I saw Tom huder was on the coaching staff I thought excellent I was waiting for the next coach to come through the door being yourself Mr Murphy why aren't you coaching down here with your cousin because I wouldn't want to leave TOS boy in the lurge they don't have much talent so the talent they have got needs to stay on board that was directly aimed at you my friend no it was not oh I know where I am in the pecking don't worry listen thank you Ian I at Kenworth Road he keep you up to date with that game between the under 21s of England and Austria and Danny very quickly um your your your relative of course he's excited about it but I'm excited for him as well because when you hear that team considering how young England's first team squad is by you know Kane and one or two other veterans um the talent coming through the English players coming through the acmy that's an amazing 11 they've got out there well also when you think of some of the players that with drawn like Wharton and Harvey Elliott and some of the lads whove gone up to the the fall Squad um he's been lucky well I say lucky he's been fortunate in the fact that he's worked with such talented players for the last year with the under 20s um and being able to work with a Next Step Up is obviously something he's really excited about ultimately though it's more pressure because you still got to get results on the 21 level well I I listen pressure is good I mean that you're in you you put yourself in an environment to have that pressure and have those things expected of you you know the interesting thing about what you both were saying about the the caliber of talent the context to that of course is those years when we used to look at the French and the Germans and the Spanish the Italians and the Dutch and and all the other nations and wonder why can't we do it I always remember 22 World Cup uh ball went over the line and it was did chalked off and I always remember Alvin Martin um hi Alvin if you're listening anywhere and it was terrific on that day that night and he he just like unfed up you know because we've had so many false STS and he was so brilliant and articulating the the frustration of so many Englishmen that we had this generation and we thought it was the end because they couldn't do it and it turned out to be the beginning because so manyy were working hard to develop the kind of players that have gone on to win silverware in the age group level and you know have allowed us to get to finals and semifinals and actually think seriously about winning something we'll keep you all across that game between England and Austria's under 21 so different kinds of pressure of course uh the pressure of having to organize results with a really brilliantly talented bunch of players and the pressure when you're 2-1 down at 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Illusion how big an achievement reaching 100 caps for England is and is hoping to mark it with a goal against Finland tomorrow live on talk sport tonight Craig Bellamy will be hoping for his first win as Wales manager there in Montenegro for the Nations League Clash is live over on talk sport 2 despite claiming the series England's cricketers have suffered their worst defeat under Brenda McCullum stewardship as they lost the third and final test with Sri Lanka by eight wickets and Britain's paralympians were Che as they arve back home from Paris earlier they won a total of 124 medals at the games 49 of them gold putting them second in the medal table talk sport drive tomorrow afternoon from 4: on talk sport talk sport drive with me Darren bent and Me Andy goldon allterrain sports radio for a power hungry Nation the national radio show with a bootload of sport unrival opinionated comment from the biggest names in sport and Andy Goldstein mirrror signal move over for talk sport drive with Andy Goldstein and Darren bent tomorrow afternoon from 4 on talk sports the fastest football on the way [Music] home yeah welcome back everybody um to kickoff um I'm not certain what what what this piece of music is I thought we were going to do the music homework um let's just get stuck in straight then to um England's performance in Dublin um was it look first of all I was asked onto Hawks been Jacobs with my connections in the in in the Irish part of this equation to talk about um the match on Friday and I um I said I didn't think it would be much of a game for England because this the gulf between the two teams despite the fact that amazingly they had managed to draw draw six of the previous seven Internationals between the two countries I think the gulf is enormous at the moment so it's one of those no win situations Danny for England um so we have to look at the performance I guess any differences you noticed from the way Gareth Southgate put his team out indeed um I thought he did the simple things really well Lee carsley I'll tell you what they are if we don't need to repeat it but I think no Trent playing in his normal position fullback drifting into Midfield and spraying the passes like we see him do for Liverpool a left footer at left back very obvious but again probably the majority of the country was thinking that we needed that in the euros and we didn't take one for some bizarre reason the freedom I thought he gave rice and Mayu to decide when and if they go forward and not one of them it was either all rice bursting past Kane on many occasion Mayu on the edge of the Box on numerous occasions the freedom to actually make choices when that should be done and shouldn't be done um pace in the wide areas which is exactly what you need if you're going to play Harry Kane so I thought the simple things and the things that the majority of people wanted he did and what that did is it created a well if you look at it I think the numbers were something like 70 70 over 70% possession more shots on goal more touches in the opposition box and bigger expected goals than any of the seven games in the Euros now the counterarguments of that would be higher pressure the games in the Euros are against better opposition but I wouldn't say Slovakia and Slovenia are that much different than Republic of Ireland so I think there was lots to be pleased about I like Jack in the 10 I thought he was good I thought it was a good idea to play him in there because obviously hasn't got the pace to play wide I just I just liked a lot about it the only thing I would say Dan and I don't know what you think about this or I spoke about Darren briefly over a burger um big fat burger as well um was when Ireland did get a little spell in the game make the subs make the changes freshen it come on now now now because yeah that was that was really interesting to say Danny because um you're right England had so much control when they lost the control slightly but not complacently that's not that's not the right word but they were cruising put it that way and when you have the opportunity in International Football um you could yeah they could have changed some of the not the legs but even the mindes in there getting some players who are really making their debuts people like Gibbs white and Angel Gomez who we discussed before get them on let's some let them you know they'll be so intensely involved in the game that you won't get that kind of falling off of the performance that happened in the second half but overall Darren um I particularly like the idea that you can play greish and Gordon um that was a real threat and uh Jack was so good at at the 10 that Phil foden will be thinking okay there there's that no he won't he's a great football and I'm sure he's got lots of confidence but he' be thinking I I that is not an absolute given now that shirt look at that performance there well it's more Bellingham isn't I think Bellingham will still be quite comfortable but I know what you mean there's now three of them and Palmer four of them absolutely and that's Belling you could always you could always drop back yeah that was partly why I was having a little chuckle to myself because again it's a lovely problem to have it's not a bad thing at all um they've got different ways of playing all of them they give us the you know I often hear about people uh people saying pick X or Y because they offer something different well all of those guys offer something different from the other and they're all high class performers so that's not a problem for the country it's good competition for all of those players I love the fact that we saw Aston Villa Jack greish at the weekend who just played with a smile on his face with the joy of the game uh Danny was he's absolutely right schooling me over a very big tasty burger um Aston Villa ason vill Jack when he was oh I see what you mean sorry yeah yeah thought you'd forgotten the last four years no because I was about to say you were you were schooling me about the fact that what greish does now is what pep wants of him and given that he's an integral part of a team that won the treble last season who are we to doubt that but the there is a differ side of Jack which is just getting the ball and gambling through um defenses with a smile on his face and doing the kind of thing that earned him to move to Manchester City in the first place and the question there is you know on on this is no disrespect to malumu and and small bone I I identify the center of Ireland's Midfield as the as the weakness and of course Jack he was they were you know he and rice were wandering off them um at ease which one so the test for Jack if he's going to play in that position will always come against better opposition where people will um either mark him differently or he'll be stared with of the kind of perfect little ball that he was getting set set up with the whole time um Dan I ask you very quickly can I ask you something are you a are you as I've got older I've kind of moved towards just wanting to be happy about good performances rather than it's only Republic of Ireland it's only I don't know whatever particularly because us as a nation we've come up against lower caliber teams before and struggled and and stunk the place out and I don't know if we are yet at the stage where we can actually be saying it's only such and such or such and such until we reel off a really good consistent Runner performances that are really impressive is that fair I'm I'm not sure what your question is um everything you said is actually yeah it was order in the court order in the cour please ask the question it was just that was you dressed up as a question the one really got bar suit on so yeah well as I say I always used to laugh at him because he's beautifully turned out and I'm something of a ragam muffin um he I was always saying Darren always looks like he just come from his brother's wedding doesn't it it's a brilliant it's a brilliant look um Trent Alexander Arnold is always going to be a talking point Danny but um what I thought was interesting the talking point here was he was just let play his natural game you're not going to turn him into I don't know um Maldini overnight he's not that kind of footballer but the game has changed since then as well and I thought he he showed that he can be the right back but also an extra Midfield of the that's the part we can never question and I think it looked to me like just said to him go out there and play the game you know you can play and boy did he benefit from it yeah I I think he looked very comfortable very confident um that comes from the freedom that the manager gave him I think the the hybrid role as it were starting at fullback and going into Midfield is exactly what he's doing at Liverpool so that's great um and I think also the majority of England games apart from probably what 10 maybe 15% over a period of two two years are always against teams where we dominate the ball yeah so you know KY Walker is not going to last forever so Trent is going to be playing more as the as the next year or two I think he'll play more so all he's got to do is make sure when we come up against a team who've got flying Wingers and have more of the ball that he's he's on it defensively and I actually think the first couple of games I've seen him play for Liverpool he looks as sharp and as fit and as agile defensively as I've seen him in a long time he's had a couple of real one-on-one situations where he's looked really mobile and able to turn quick and not found himself getting caught which is really promising so we'll have to wait and see um on that one down but yeah playing him in the role he plays for his Club it's God and how did we get to that science how did how did he word that through um here's some fun for you the teams are out on the pitch for the game between France and Belgium I told you that France had been walloped at home by Italy and that the pressure had come on di Dean looking at the subs bench antoan Griezmann kilan mbappe not picked tonight now I don't know whether he's fit I don't know whether they decide you can't play that you know they were going to change the team anyway Co moani starts up front for France Michael ois having made his full competitive de debut is also on the subs bench so he has ring the changes did DEA um because of geographical reasons I can't see Wales on the big screen here you two can watch that one for me and I'll watch this game between France and Belgium um should be it should be a good game just about to kick off now we come back we'll talk about some of the things that happened off the pitch in the game between the Republic of Ireland and England including um the furor if that's the word you want to use about it about the English national anthem and the England manager that's coming up next here on talk sport you listen to kickoff kickoff on talk 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looking for remember Peters and Lee I do remember Peters and Lee yeah um they they I I had a colleague when I worked in the music press um and the morning their song went to number one I'm trying to think what what it was called now forgive me um they were sleeping on his living room floor his father used to run a working men's club in the north of England and they'd played in the in the club in Wigan the previous night and they were sleeping on the floor when my friend St McCone was out to say to you realize your record's number one do you was something of a surprise to them well she scored down have they that must be very early on ke for more 45 seconds nice finish yeah very good and they've also kicked off um in the stat of France uh she inen Leon I think um it's France nil Belgium nil last night on trans Europe Express we were speculating wildly cuz 's no reason for it other than after the the defeat against Italy Danny we understood that the person shouting in the dressing room telling the rest of the players they were no good was Mike Manon the goalkeeper and not the the France Captain Killian mbappe and we was wondering he's got a lot on his plate mbappe is he really does he need to be the French Captain as well we're wondering who would be the captain if he uh if he didn't play well I presume he's got some kind of injury or something because he's not playing tonight um so the answer oh really standing Angolo kante is the captain of France what's happening in Montenegro oh my God that's a Wonder strike 2 N after two and a half minutes Harry I couldn't make out who it was absolutely outstand F Bo um Harry Wilson yeah Harry Wilson left footed strike yeah that is a strike worth anybody at home and you can stick that on whatever channel is on what a goal that Danny I went all you at the after during the north London D yes yeah and your voice went have 14 octaves there I'm impressed with your range as well listen that game between a game it's it's a spanking Now isn't it between Montenegro and Wales um from the let me get the name of the city correctly it's from nixit I don't know don't I'm going to find out about Nish later it's live over on talk sport 2 right now okay let's get back to to Dublin um Lee Carley um we all know his background and we all know that he played 48 49 times the Republic of Ireland so I was a bit surprised and I'll go further than that later to wake up to headlines saying literally on National newspapers in England saying that he should be sacked if he does not sing God save the king um before the game yours was not one of those papers Darren I noted um I'm sure you had a discussion about it because uh you know the way social media works now everything is blown up into a huge issue I was what did what well your paper didn't do it what did you make of the Ferrari um well I I just I'm staggered by it I have to say um is it interesting yes is it as big a story as it has become not for me um and that's the reason why we took the decision not to put it anywhere other than where it should have been which was in the sports Pages um now I can't speak for other people's decision making at all um but I I just the whole issue around his singing or non- singing of the anthem was never an issue when he took charge of many of the players who he's elevated into the senior team now on the way to winning the European championship and as you know you keep referring to me in as my full title there are so many other things affecting everybody at the moment regardless of what team country what Your Allegiance is there so many other things affecting us rather than this and I just didn't see it as being anywhere near as important as some people have made it and I look people are talking about patriotism and this that and the other but those people how come they didn't know if they are that patriotic that he hadn't been singing it as England under 21 coach on the way to winning the title The because you're getting to to n the matter in some ways it wasn't about football and Sport at all it was about politics um and culture wars and getting um hits for your newspaper and or uh Twitter feed Dan were you surprised or do you think they manag such thing the uh the the national anthem well I'll come at it from a players's point of view I um I couldn't care less what my manager does and I couldn't tell less what my mate does next to me it's just a personal thing I did sing it um I was proud to sing it but it didn't bother them if one of the other Lads didn't I I think there's so many different ways that people Express themselves whether it be a manager a player look if you think of the Euros I've I've been at so many tournaments in the last yeah 10 12 years the Euro has being the most recent one you will never see a rendition of an Anthem better sang by supporters staff and players than Scotland or Italy right and they were bloody awful so what what what what what does the and I mean awful so what does it mean means that you care no you can words are just words you show how you care with actions it's what I've been taught by all my previous exes um and so FL flowers from theary is not cutting it down no no especially not the F they false ones I think you prove your worth or your passion by what you produce in the role you're in and the role he's in is to give the player players the freedom belief and strength and courage to play the way they do and the first half they did so let's just judge him on what he does with the team and how he motivates the players and how he coaches them and how the team sets up not on whether he decides to belt out a rendition of God saved the king you know come on it's ridiculous the world's gone mad yeah it really saddened me because it looked to me from a distance of 300 miles to the West like in some cases this were people talking about a country that's lost its own self-confidence if that's the the the mark of how you become the England manager you can sing the national anthem it was very sad now look I understand the modern media I work in it I'm part of it I do understand it and I understand that in Twitter and um other short form um means of expression you have to just get out the the the sort of edge of what you're saying and so some it appeared pretty unne on oh he must be sacked the ones I really had it in for um were the writers in sort of newspaper are long form websites where they have the chance you know you can't write a thousand words about this issue if unless you mention the background of why there is issues between um you know one country and another these two islands um otherwise you're just being willfully ignorant because you know the answers um and you just you decide to ignore those in favor of gathering up a few more clicks or hits from people who already in your Echo chamber um I thought I I I didn't think it was a a great moment for the British press and of course it won't go away it'll keep on with it um until he's appointed and then we'll s then it'll come up timing and don't do particularly well I think I think Danny look from my point of view I I've got lots of different kinds of skin in the game you know because yeah you know I'm born in this country I'm of Caribbean Heritage um and and and identity is important it's important to millions of people in this country um and and to be honest with you in all my what 20 odd years being talking about a variety of subjects on talk sport you know me I like to be honest and open and I love the fact that there is a diverse range of opinions on on on a lot of subjects so I get it and you know when I'm with journalists we argue about lots of stuff all the time we don't always agree but we respect each other's right to an opinion and I love the fact that we all have different opinions rather than everybody thinking like a formation dance team I just think as far as this particular issue is concerned um I hope it doesn't go down the road of robbing us of a very promising manager who knows how to win and is promoting teams from the under 21 side into uh the senior team I hope it doesn't see us going the way of say for example um Terry veniales uh when in 96 he gave us some terrific moments as England manager and then he lost his job for something that had nothing to do with football there's no suggestion that the fa are going to get rid of him because he won't Sing the anthem surely to no there's not but you would have thought so and I on the morning of the game it was the lead story on one BBC News Bulletin that I watched and Sky were also getting stuck into it as well all off the back of a few people who are I'm going to be honest about this they're entitled to opinion of course that's what I genuinely believe um you know who who say these things um because that is the way you get certain kinds of G on certain kinds of radio and TV stations but D can we just give you real context quickly the fact is that Lee Carley as an Ireland player and I was born in Birmingham sure didn't Sing the anthem as an English manager under 21s winning a trophy did not Sing the anthem no one question it no one says anything no and and as an England first team manager he remained consistent with his belief and behavior and didn't sing it again now if he had sang it after not singing it for all that time what would we call that disingenuous yeah trying to appease the masses what is it is that lead is that leadership is that leadership is leadership having the Coury conviction and I know things change all the time I grew up in a world where it wasn't compulsory nobody said the England team didn't sing the national anthem 25 years ago I I'll go back and check the uh the footage but it's just become a thing to beat people with and one of these another sort of as I'm going to use the phrase again a culture War um sort of brick bat with which to Belt people around the the head if they don't happen to share your opinions on everything if you win if if you win football matches by how you sing the national anthem Scotland would be world champions and Wales would be European Champions absolutely right and both great singers actually great great anthems listen we'll talk extend this further actually though because I've get D to hear what Darren's got to say about the next thing when we come back after the break and the news and and all that I'll ask you whether whether Lee K's relationships with the Press will be important in the coming months and years if and when he gets the England job you're listening to kickoff um one hour done two to go so plenty of stuff to hang around for we hope to entertain you further Wales are off to a great start that game is live over on talk sport 2 meanwhile you're listening to me Danny Kelly Danny Murphy and Darren Lewis kickoff on talk Sport with Labs supercharge your odds with our odds boost button selected Market supplies the first50 of steak ter to play 18 plus gam.org we got it at CCO 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after the game I can really you know have a good uh a good celebration with my family and friends he'll join the hundra club tomorrow night against Finland at Wembley meanwhile Lee Carley's told us he's not precious about his title as interim manager I'm confident and and and um relaxed enough about the situation you know the priority has always got to be the players being putting them in a position where where we're being really competitive and yeah as long as that is that's how long it'll be England versus Finland is live here on talk sport from 700 p.m. tomorrow evening things couldn't be going much better in nixit for Wales they're already 2-0 up against Montenegro in their Nations League Clash former Scotland Striker Ross McCormack says that despite Ronaldo's inevitable winner Scotland's performance against Portugal will encourage the fan base that is a Scotland that we wanted to see in the summer we're not going to be the most technical team there's going to be there's going to be teams who are a lot better technically than us but what most teams don't have that we do is people are going to roll their sleeves up and have right go the Irish fa has complained to UEFA about the shameful and totally unacceptable treatment of Northern Ireland supporters in Bulgaria it said fans were denied water and toilets inside the stadium following their Nations League defeat and Ole popes admitted England shot themselves in the foot with their batting at the oval they suffered their worst defeat since Brendan McCullum took charge to Sri Lanka beat them by eight wickets in the final test talk sport news the Princess of Wales has described her relief at revealing she's completed her chemotherapy treatment Kate released a video message in which she says her focus is on staying cancer free and an independent appeals process is being set up for sub postmasters impacted by the faulty Horizon it system it'll allow branch managers to have their cases reassessed talk sport weather 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talk about Cristiano Ronaldo who got his 900 and 91st goal over the weekend what what a stat um and what a career he's having um all of that coming up in the next hour we've got lots to get as I say thanks for being with us here on kickoff on talk sport well your musical homework is some bands with a Lee in them or an artist with a Lee in their name we continue to say welcome Lee Carley to the England manager job Al be at interim um this of course is baggy trousers by Madness and the saxophone you can hear is played by Lee J Thompson right we've been keeping you up to date with Wales but there's another important game tonight the England 20 sorry say it properly Danny the England under 21s are playing their Austrian counterparts at kennworth Road in Luton how are they doing in Abrahams 21 minutes gone s England nil Austria nil Austria could have scored inside 3 minutes but for a fabulous save from James Beetle down towards his left hand post it was a free kick from 25 yds out Beetle also made another really good save but it wouldn't have counted because of an off side flare he didn't know that he he's look really good tonight and Liam Depp is the other one to mention uh he's just had a shot really easily saved by the Austria goalkeeper brilliant play by Morgan Rogers and a reverse pass inside the penalty area a really weak shot though buddy ipswitch sender forward who was booked after 16 seconds for diving by the referee Stephanie Frapp par um he went down looking for a penalty she didn't think it was and pulled out a yellow card so for 89 minutes and 44 seconds he's walking a bit of a tight rope otherwise daddy Murphy's cousin's doing okay Ben futcher the England manager is England nil Austria nil thank you very very much indeed moose now um let's leave aside the business about the national anthem people are entitled to their opinions on both ways of that the wider question is does the next permanent manager whoever he or she is need to be good with the the media um it comes after Lee KY himself said that his strength is coaching on the pitch and not necessarily uh talking to the likes of myself and Darren and Dany um and of course it comes after we've had a no issue with this for years and years and years because Gareth Southgate was so measured and often very very good with the media well speaking of talk sport the interim manager himself was asked how he can handle that the media if he does get the job permanently I think it's definitely something that I can handle I think it's you know you know the England manager obviously got and head coach has got that responsibility you know I think where where my my opinion is is is most valued is is around football and and IC football and uh you know the English game and not all not not just the um the senior team but the pathway um you know the amount of time now that I've worked for for englanders you know I've seen four or five um different generations of of players now that are coming through in different age groups so you know that's that's my strength Darren I guess I need to ask you this question first because um it would be putting our heads in the sand to say it doesn't matter about the England manager um you know ability in front of the media because if it's bad that becomes the issue itself um Lee is clearly um you know he's a smart guy and he he but he doesn't automatically appear to be as comfortable with it as say Gareth Southgate was um what what these days is the relationship you know what do you want from the the manager when you're a newspaper editor it's a good question I mean there are a couple of things that points that Danny made to me privately that actually I don't want to steal his Thunder on so I I'll let him make those over Pizza it was a very tasty burger oh you haven't got another one since no okay right no we haven't but you know it was a very um real education over a very tasty burger but um in all seriousness I I'll just make this separate point because I thought this before Lee got the interim job I do think personally he should have the full-time job because essentially the game is about winning but I would say there's an interesting kind of point of difference between the two because Southgate was terrific off the pitch in relation to issues that were of national importance at a really important time for the nation Darren you you forgive me if I interrupt because Danny will want to know this there's been a goal in the game between England and Austria's under 21s which way is it gone Abrahams the goal has gone to England England won Austria nil after 25 minutes uh James mcy was siid down inside the penalty area and Morgan Rogers the astonvilla forward a little stuttering run up right footed smashed the ball into the roof of the net England one Austria nil it remains nil nil in the game between France and Belgium as I told you this game is very important to France now and the players have responded to the manager um because it does a great deal of needle in what they're not friendlies anymore and Mata gendi has just gone through the uh the the Belgian goalkeeper with with a fair amount of force shall I say no stronger than that the players have remarked to each other upon the tackle and the game moves on but there's been plenty of that so far um D Darren you're in the middle sorry of your Soliloquy yeah I was just making the point that as far as um Southgate is concerned he's raises a bar of what's expected of an England manager just because of the way that he was able to deal with so many difficult subjects which affected the nation the players from mental health to race to um George Floyd all of the different things that came up during his Reign he was outstanding he managed to bond a group of players that had been fractured a lot of players as Danny knows and so many of the people listening to the show know a lot of players didn't want to turn up for international Duty there were cleaks in the squad and he brought it together it's a real Club field to it so Southgate did a superb job away from the pitch lots of people have their own views about what happened on the pitch he was too safety first he didn't take fast enough decisions and difficult moments in the game so he wasn't a winner he got he took us to the brink but he wasn't a winner Carley's a winner and that's ultimately what you want from your National coach but I do think that he will need to have some of the things that Gareth had as well because Gareth was superb in front of the cameras the microphone and to be fair to Lee the fac Senior Team uh press team are superb at being able to judge the mood um judge the moment arm the England manager with the right things to say at the right times as well so he's surrounded by a terrific team but he will need to grow into that role if he's going to make a success of the job Dan I wonder what you think about it just I did I say I don't know Lee Carley I did a week of kickoffs with him so um I have met him and spent some time with him and my only advice to him would be and this is this is tricky is to be yourself if you're not if he's not comfortable with being a social commentator in the way that Gareth became very comfortable then probably does best to avoid it but overall what do you think because we've had such a mixture haven't we you know Sven gor and Erikson largely very well in with the Press Terry venal until he wasn't really well in with the Press they never liked Capello never really got to grips with him partially I guess because of the language barrier was so difficult those are and he was a tyrant thank you very much indeed um can I just say before Danny answers yeah and and you will know this anyway Dan anyway but just for people outside the Press cores changed over a lot of years so some of the managers you just mentioned they would have been head coaches or managers during the time of a very different group of journalists to the ones that are senior journalists now who are very even-handed who are very open-minded who um establish relationships and work to build on those relationships and many of whom will have followed Lee throughout his time as under 21 coach on the way to winning the European championship at that level as well Dan I mean it is important this this how he gets on with now what he says is a separate thing but it is important he gets on because Dar Darren's rightly pointed out there the world has changed anything the England manager says which would have been to about a dozen newspaper journalists 30 years ago is now to the whole world because of the way social media amplifies everything yeah I I think um Charisma and warmth um and being able to deal with the media really well helps you when you need to paper over the cracks I think it gives you popularity and if you're good at deflecting at times can give you extra time in a job if you're brilliant with the media I think that's true now if you're really good at what you do and his strength is as he said as a coach and getting a team to play good attack and winning football then do it being so good with the media isn't as relevant I actually think it's less important to be great with the media as an England manager that is with a club manager cuz I think you're doing it more as a club manager and there's more room for error I think with England you can pretty much be pretty PC with what you say because you have to be you're working for the fa granted Gareth did have a lot of topical issues he had to deal with I'm not convinced I or I I wouldn't as a player or a fan want my manager to be to um what's the word I wouldn't want him to be like an MP and have an opinion on everything the only problem with that just just just to more more ask more put it to you to answer is that when you are the England national team head coach your press conferences aren't populated only by football journalist that's your choice well it's not it is but you don't have an obligation to speak on some of the subjects gett spoke on you don't and that's the thing absolutely those people would still be there whether you choose to engage in people can ask you whatever you want if you ever I mean I know what on about club man but let's talk about the best managers in the world over the years Mourinho klopp Guardiola do you think they get railroaded in talking about subject railroaded talking subjects they don't want to talk about they talk about but klopp for example he's so loved by Liverpool fans and neutrals in in many precisely because he did speak about some stuff that didn't have anything to do with what was on the pitch the icing on the cake of any manager is if he's warm and charismatic and knows how to to speak to media and fans right that's the icing on the cake but the cake is made with the football on the pitch I totally agree we're agreed on that so yes in an Ideal World you'd want Lee carsley to be better than he is now with the media because he's a bit rigid and a bit cold I I I I don't think that's deliberate I think it's just who he is and he's new to it there's got to be some nerves there's got to be Jesus this is a big deal I've got to make sure I don't say anything too stupid and he's not I think you'll see him evolve I hope we do where he's a bit more warm and a bit more humorous because people like that it's engaging so you want him to be engaging But ultimately what will engage him is the team playing good football and what will disengage him from the fans is playing crap football you know I listen we we we we've been talking about this since even before the show and we're agreed that he's a he's a guy who knows how to win he's a good fit for the national team coach he will bring through from the under 21 uh side players that have won before for him and he will integrate them into the first team I think we have to be a little bit careful calling him a winner cuz he won it on the 21 level doesn't that make him a winner it makes him a winner on a 21 level but doesn't that still mean that he knows how to get over the line Del Wente the Spain head coach but that's the only comparison we can have draw really I I just think we have to be careful saying winner winner winner actually you know it's difference if someone like Guardiola or Mourinho walks in the do and says a winner I think credit to him but it's not it's not the same all right let's um let's just let me tell you after half an hour of a very very competitive not to say spiky first half in in leyon France have taken the lead Randle K moani and picked a sent it Forward ahead of kilan mbappe has scored the goal um and the fouling continues so Lucas daa has just cleaned out one of the the wide players of Belgium as well when we come back we'll move on to England's next game in which um Lee carsley will be having his second go at being in charge of England up against a man who's been in charge of Finland for nearly nine years 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England come forward theyve had chances through the and Rogers but Austria equalized and fr the ball was given away in Midfield and Tio ballow uh from the edge of the Box c one pass James Beetle nothing the goalkeeper could do about that 37 on the clock England W Austria one thank you very much moose and better news perhaps for the people the teams from this island um in the montenegrin town of nixit where Montenegro are playing well as it's live on over on talk sport 2 let's get a flavor of the action now um Dean Saunders will be one of your commentators and your match commentator is Nigel adley and Wilson down the Wales right and Wilson has been body checked on the far side 36 minutes played we welcome listeners from talks Fort where Wales lead Montenegro by two goals to nil an incredible start ke for more scoring after 38 seconds and then Harry Wilson wrapping one in from long range after 2 and a half minutes but since then Stefan ytic has hit the crossbar from the halfway line Ben Davis has had to clear a shot off the line the rain remains incessant the pitch now has taken Dean Saunders so much water and you wonder what this game will be like in maybe 20 minutes or so after halftime if it keeps running like this well yeah we got a new audience with us now uh not witness what we've just witnessed it's been a great game we've had everything apart from a red card we've had everything else chip from the halfway line arry Wilson top Corner counterattacks tackles mistakes it's been a great game um Wales 2-n up two great two great goals to start with and since then I was surprised Montenegro never Chuck the towel in but they they've kept going they've had chances as well they certainly have but having gone four games without a goal Wales scoring twice in the opening 3 minutes but this game surely has more goals in it as the conditions worsen 37 minutes play commentary continuing on talk sport 2 Montenegro nil Wales 2 thank you very much indeed that game in France I mean Yuri Tans has just leveled Manu Kone in the Midfield of France he's getting treatment as I speak the most unfriendly Nation League game I've seen for a long long time it remains France one Belgium nil it's time now to look at all the latest football action with lad Brooks the big preview on talk Sport with lad Brooks supercharge your odds with our odds boost button selected Market supplies the first50 of steak terms apply 18 plus gam.org yeah tomorrow evening live here on talk sport you can hear England against Finland in the Nations League um the game will be remarkable for at least one obvious Landmark the 100th cap for the England Captain Harry Kane and earlier today the skipper caught up with talk sports Faker others you know it's always tough when you come so close to to reaching one of your your biggest dreams and obviously uh yeah you lose a game like that and then you know before you know you're all going home or going away on on holiday and uh trying to process everything that happen so I think it takes time I think you know them type of defeats you don't it takes you a while to get over but I think you process it you you try and learn from and then quickly before you know you're thinking about the next season and and what you can do to improve so yeah had a few weeks away with the family and just tried to switch off and then yeah that quickly turned to okay it makes me more hungry and motivated to to get better and of course first with the club and then you know back here with England now I'm excited for uh the next chapter what's been the main difference between gareis coaching techniques and and leads so far in the short time that that you've been back yeah I'm not too sure I think you know every manager has their own ideas and their own style I think like I touched on we've been successful enough in the last especially four years getting to two finals where we're doing a lot of good things I think Lee's come in and just saw some areas maybe from the summer that he thinks we can improve both with and without the ball and uh yeah I think you know using his experience from past teams as well in the under 21s to uh hopefully yeah we can go out there and and show that in in the games but um yeah I wouldn't say there's been loads of change it's just kind of him being himself and with the new staff with ashh and jolian and and Tim and uh yeah it's just kind of fresh ideas whether it's from tactical training or set pieces or whatever it may be it's just uh it's just Yeah a different environment what kind of reception are you expecting tomorrow these kind of fixtures don't come around that often and the last time you played Republic of Ireland was behind closed doors because it was during the pandemic yeah I think it'll be you know fairly hostile I think it's just that natural rivalry between England and Ireland so uh like most away away games now it'll be difficult atmosphere and uh I think it'll be a great experience for you know not just the experienced players in the team but also some of the newer faces with the ball especially so uh yeah it'll be a a tough game you know first okay I I suspect you've all worked out that at least some of that was the wrong audio um that's what happens with live radio and particularly when you're going back and forth to other events um the the game we'll talk some more about the game and we'll hear from Lee Carley in just a few minutes time um but Dan it is worth noting you know 100 caps for the England cap now you all know I've got skin in the game here as a Spurs fan but um when he was going out on loan at mil wall and Norwich um like no maybe we couldn't see it but it was the first time I was ever really angry with Marcio pochettino Dan was when he was playing Harry in the minor in the Europa League games and The League Cup and it was already clear to any body with an eye in their head and I'm not joking here it was very clear that he was a better player than Emanuel adabo was at that stage and we were roaring at them the the Spurs managed to get Kane into the team but even I in fact I put up on Twitter I can look I can find it for you later on um a picture of a man with a dunce hat on facing into the corner I said this is pochettino if he can't see Kane over over at a bio but I'm not going to pretend I could see it was going to be record England goal scorer record spur first score in 100 caps um he's a classic example of someone who's worked on his game isn't he yeah I mean it's just a great adver for the loan system where you gain that experience I actually played against him when he was at Leicester on loan he played up front for Leicester with Chris Wood and Jamie vardy would have been on the bench they had an amazing forward I'm not sure they signed him then but maybe um okay I was he was in a champ and they were awesome paing you know when you come off the pit thinking W yeah yeah really yeah he okay yeah he did a couple of wonderful things I think he scored um but it wasn't just the goal it was you know the torch and the strength and all yeah the presence but he's he's um he's a wonderful player who has done many great things for England yes there's some criticism in big moments where he hasn't produced or certain games where people feel he should have done more I think he has struggled physically at times you know at the end of Seasons when he's played so many games he like many other players have had that problem he's not the only one but I was pleased to see him looking sharp I thought he did did all right in the game he' be disappointed he didn't score but I thought he looked much healthier and sharper than he did in the Euros um he's obviously scored already for Munich this season and look the fact that only nine of the players have got through 100 caps tells you all you need to know about how difficult that task is the only thing moving forward I think he'll beat shilon the reason I the reason I'll do is I do is not not just because of his quality and his passion to play but I think also we're really lacking a true competitor for him you know somebody who really pushes him we haven't got one I know Watkins had the season of his life and and he is different but even he started this beginning this season a bit below you know he's not scored he's not quite been at his best I like him but no one's pushing he think we were talking weren't we you remember back then when they had Ferdinand sheringham and Robbie Fowler and Ian and Shar to this about is is Stan kymore when he lists the players that were ahead of him for 10 years at different times as England Strikers you go okay well that really was we were choosing from a lot of talent there I completely empathized because I I make that argument about the Midfield as I was competing every every single time someone says why did you only get nine caps I'm like do you know who I was up against yeah take a little we we should we should take take a break and we'll hear 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little arrows clothing little arrows in your hair when you're in love you'll find those little arrows everywhere [Music] little I'll make a wild guess that this has never been played on talk sport before Ley KN the very epitome of made up English summer pop from the mid-60s and his huge hit from that time little [Music] arrows okay it's halim at Kenworth Road England 121s against Austria I'm watching for talk sport Ian Abrahams at the break is England one Austria one Eng head off 25 minutes James mcy brought down inside the penalty are in right footed uh it was Morgan Rogers who smashed home the resulting penalties to the goalkeeper right England could have increased their lead through Rogers who had a excellent effort saved and also Liam deap had a firm shot that was blocked but it was the austrians who got the equalizer they've for been threatening tonight ballow curling the ball in from the edge of the D after England give the ball away Midway inside their own half the rest of the half was fairly uneventful but the game certainly hasn't been for Danny Murphy's cousin Ben fer will probably want some words Hal time with his team to be not so Prof to be more propagate rather in front of goal it's England one Austria one I love the way this is going if if if they do well Ben will get all the credit if the other 21s do badly we' be blaming Danny that's just the way it goes you know what yeah you going back before that you were talking about 60s would you say ' 60s that music was from yeah 64 my favorite song from the' 60s is p Peter S dead classic Dad I'm sure you'll know it very well where do you go to my lovely when you're alone in your head I want in bed I want to look inside your head yeah what a beautiful song you're younger than me how do you know that s just hang on he's he's said bethoven as well you know you are allowed to listen backwards as well that's right that's right it was on a compilation that I used to listen to in uh oh it's an amazing one hit wonder Peter SED where you go did he only do the one well you never had any more hits but oh but that was monstrous across Europe uh that summer um and WR lots of lots of good mentions of The Rolling Stones and the Aga Khan and there's a little laugh in it ha he goes yeah yeah beautiful song though isn't it yeah well I tell you what it's got nothing to do with tonight's homework but later on please engineer Paul or kit as everyone calls him let's have a blast of where' you go to my lovely for Danny um now let's have a blast of the England manager the interim manager head of the second game charge um against Finland which you can hear tomorrow night live here on talk sport Lee Carley spoke with talk sports Faker Brothers I think we're probably going to get a different kind of opposition in terms of the way that Fin and play um really well organized maybe a different system um the games that we've watched have changed it three or four times um a coach that's been there for a while so um we expect we expect them to be resilient well organized um you know it be it' be our job to create the tempo and the um the excitement and to and to make sure that we um get into really good areas and and create chances obviously fans are expecting a big win against a side ranked 63 in the world do you feel as if that would be a statement because one of the criticisms leveled in The Island Game is that they were almost there for the taking in the in the first half and we could have scored more we created a lot of chances I think we I think we have to give their goalkeeper some great credit having having watched the game back some of the saves that he produced were were very good um I don't think we should you know ever expect just to turn up and that that' be enough to beat a team I think if we approach the game properly uh if we express ourselves if we have belief that we we can score um and you know more importantly as well keep the ball out the the other end you know we'll have a we'll have a good night I just want to clear up a couple of things as well because um when we received the uh press release that that you were going to be in interim charge it was only initially for the first two games which is this September Camp what are the conversations that that that you've had and and what was your um what were you told that the fa wanted from you well it was to it was to oversee the um the Nations League qualifiers so with three camps um that could change that could change um you know I'm not um I'm not precious enough to think it's about me it's it's about getting the best person for the job um it's it's important that I I keep um I keep the ship almost pointing in the right direction and um you know and do a good job while I'm while I'm here for as long as that's needed so uh I'm I'm I'm confident and and and um relaxed enough about the situation you know the priority has always got to be the players being putting them in a position where where we're been really could do to us but he basically shows what we can do to them and I think if he could combine that with making quick substitutions in the second half when players levels start to drop and maintaining that energy by bringing on players quicker I think it could be a really good second game to send people away with back into the Premier League season within their minds he actually played some good stuff I enjoyed watching it absolutely because at the weekend I think it might have been the best I've seen England play for a little while just popping about having some fun seen the best I've seen England play was the first half against Holland in the semi-final no I mean yeah no that was the best we've played in a in a good while but yeah it was really promising and this performance needs to cement that one yes for everyone to start being convinced and just before we go to the breakdown I've got because I know you love your music and the the great thing about working on this show is we can just change subject when the hell we like I just thought whe people like it or not another one of my favorite songs from the 60s was Paul Anker you're having my baby do you know that one I don't know that one that's beautiful G you've gone through the time warp because I'm sure that's 70s song to be honest but uh oh is sorry I thought it was on the same compilation maybe I mean I haven't listened to it for about 20 years so to be fair this is quite good Duke box Murphy and the enyclopedia that is Danny Kelly say he's right the lyric You're Having My Baby what a lovely way to say think about me oh my goodness I'm I tell you what I one of the reasons I love International Football I suspect a man called IL Mari nisenan will play at the back um for Finland he'll be up against Harry Kane Jack greish Anthony Gordon etc etc but Kaya Saka um a lot different from his day job at EXA city um he may find find that quite a leap in quality good luck to him if he plays of course good luck to him 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no they're far too beautiful they're far too beautiful for that my friend um also we live a long way from a garage I have to tell you she'd have to say I'm going to the garage um let's talk then uh move on to another subject Scotland were ahead last night early goal by Scott mctom then they got clawed back um Portugal brought Cristiano Ronaldo Off the Bench um he changed the game some point pretending otherwise because he Scotland started to become more worried about the penalty area and after having missed a succession of chances of course he scored again and he scored the winner cuz he is a force of nature it was his 91st goal in Top Class football um after his 900th he went on um Portuguese television and said and of course the thing about my 900 goals that you all is that you can see them all on YouTube making the point that so many of the Thousand goals that Pelle got um were against questionable opposition and are not available for public view he really he really has got this whole thing planned out for himself Portuguese press are working out now not when he should be left out the Portuguese team which was their theme 18 months ago but they're working out how many more games he has to play before he gets to a thousand goals I think that's definitely his his AIM now isn't it oh yeah oh yeah but I'm I'm sorry I am not having airbrushing P the greatest man ever to pull on a pair of football boots I'm not having him air brushed out of his he didn't mention him by name that's me interpreting what he said but that's what he meant wasn't it you know um the this thousand goals who were they against and where were they how why can't I see them um Danny this is one of the most difficult things we do in this kind of thing we do for a living is finding new words for a familiar theme um but last night I was forced to say it and I confronted myself about it because you know the departer Jimmy Greaves and Ian rush and Alan Shir and you know the people I've watched play this game he may not be the best player I've ever seen but he's definitely the best Striker before you answer that there's an all the tension for you Danny another goal at Kenworth grad Ian Abraham the goal has gone to England England 2 Austria one it's a second for Morgan Rogers this is an absolute Beauty Sam ining starts the move on the right hand side cuts in field lays it off edge of the penalty are a little flick I think from mcti as he's fouled to Rogers coming in on the left hand side as a penalty he's opened up his body and with his right foot he's bent it exquisitly into the far Corner than that he has two England have two and the fo your Murphy family can once again breathe easy England to Austria one are you actually breathing slightly easier now Dan um I'm really hopeful he wins yeah because I thought they deserved to win you I'm really pleased for him actually that chance I've got the we've got the game on that goal was the carbon copy of the chance he missed in the first half so uh he wasn't going to miss twice a man of his quality so that should give him a little bit of Freedom now to just relax and not have to push to you know you can just Su in a little bit more now but yeah good finish meanwhile this is live radio but I don't mind saying this could our researchers please let me know what's going on in leyon the French team have left the pitch the Belgian players are still on the pitch um we're about halfway through the second half it's still 1 n to France um but I see Belgian players kind of trying to keep warm and there are no French players on the pitch if somebody could uh just check what's going on there for me um because I can't very well turn the television up can I because I'm supposed to be doing this um you were saying um well I was just saying Danny that after all the great players I've seen over the years he may not be the greatest player I think that might be maradana might be Messi he's the greatest Striker I've ever seen I mean and what I get I get it I get it um you know people will say he's padding his stats in Saudi Arabia but the fact is that the age he's at to still be getting goals you know in International Football is incredible yeah I mean to to play even if you took Sai out of it for a second to play at the level he did for so long and score as many goals he did and have the success he had is is nothing short of incredible and I think the great thing about him and Messi that rivalry if you like is that they pushed each other yes and they both wanted to outdo each other although Messi might not say out Li order I think that's more obvious with Ronaldo but I think Messi improved because of Ronaldo as well to to have I know how difficult it is to maintain a level of of good football never to his level but of you know high level played a long time in the Premier League and the reality is you have to sacrifice a lot now to do it to what to the level he's at to be one of the best players we've ever seen takes 10 times a sacrifice to stay on top of that pyramid and he deserves all the ploted he get even if he's a bit Marite you know he is having himself he is pain sometimes with some of the things he does with his historyonics with his tears and his Tantrums acting like a child but who cares because what he's given people from a football perspective over the years is just phenomenal even myself I mean I think back I was at the game in SOI when he got the hat-trick against Spain you know he's 3-2 down and when you need someone to step up the free kick bum so many memories of SE I mean played against him and and I've been on the same pitch as him while he's terrorized us yeah yeah and it I I feel quite hon honored that I've shared a picture with him to be honest let me just say let me just say that I may have got this wrong the uh the game's about to kick off I think just the French team hadn't come out for some reason the officials went back into the dressing room to get the to grab up the French team um this has been quite this has been they just kicked off the second half everyone looks very happy so thankfully there hasn't been a health scare or a race incident or anything like that it looks like they just didn't come out very or maybe the Bel out very quickly but what point I was making the the game has been really really bad tempered and physical um and the belgians were probably making a point by being out there first come on then let's get on with this it's still one nil to France um yeah we we we we we're lucky to have been able to see him play and the the thing about it for me is as I say it's bad enough that he's got two brilliant feet but uh as a lover of a headed goal he has been the best headed finish heading finisher along with Ed jeo in the world for about a decade half the way he gets up that ridiculous physique and and gets his head to the ball he just been something else um are you are you one of those Darren who believes that the goals in Saudi Arabia perhaps taint the the the the 900 or when people are reading about this in 30 years time the Saudi league is one of the biggest leagues in the world people won't take won't have a take a blind bit of notice and the Saudi league is a league in World football why do their goals not matter because the quality isn't the caliber of English football of course they matter say they' gone and done it for Swindon absolutely or let's say he went to Scotland for hearts or someone still count you know so I don't have any problem I think where there might be a debate eventually is um because I think you say Striker but I I I still see Ronaldo as a for a forward a Winger who's become a goal scorer um rather than a striker um so then the debate would be who's the best player uh ever um and no I I I see where Danny's coming from because for year he didn't play he didn't stay out wide for that long no so I think he has spent at least three quarters of his career as a striker so you can judge him on that I would and his goals tell you that but I know what you mean I do know what you mean because I see him as a forward more as a more than cuz he's so versatile you could stick him out W obviously the the now that he's getting on you couldn't put him anywhere else but the center forward position um and there were times that man united for example that he needed to have it on a plate for him I I think it would be a fair shout to say he's the best Striker we've ever I I to to me as a he's not the best player but he's the best Striker no and doesn't pain me because you know we grow up with our own impressions of how the game is when somebody comes along and breaks those Impressions um you know Jimmy grees Etc um you have to be honest with yourself he just is an absolute phenomenon um and you know if if he was to choose to go and play I don't know in another League where perhaps even below um the standard in Saudi Arabia the physical condition is in he could get 2,000 goals being careful and do you know it's the point that Danny made is so true in in that whatever the level of game he play is playing at the fact is that he is someone utterly committed to living his life right eating right training right doing all the things that will put him in the best possible condition to be able to go out and give his best but even if the even if the if the league is lesser and it's easier in people's head to score but the the people he are the people he's playing with isn't modri and Cru anymore so everything drops nobody else has scored as many goals as him in Saudi and that would make it when everything around him drops it makes it even harder for him to score goals because he doesn't levad glad you mentioned that because last night Luca Modric Luca modri scored the winner for Croatia did on his 39th birthday there's hope for us all you this kickoff kickoff on talk Sport with labyrinths supercharge your odds with our odds boost button selected Market supplies the first50 of steak 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they have no win now in 13 games all of that and much more besides in the next hour of kickoff here on talk sport but that's all after we get news and Sport headlines from Steve Forbes cheers Danny good evening Harry Kane says he's hoping to Mark joining England's 100 Club in style tomorrow night it shows a great consistency over a long period of time I think when you look at some of the other players who have achieved it you know some of our greatest ever players so uh something I'm really excited for uh I just hope it could be a special night all around with with a win and hopefully a goal as well the captain will reach the Milestone when England take on Finland at Wembley Three Lions Legend David Seaman told talk sport he's still got 100% faith in Kane's ability despite an underwhelming Euros there isn't one finish that I know that I could say right that's his favorite finish because he's got so many I think that's why so many people were a little bit disappointed with him in the summer is because we knew that he can be so much better England versus Finland is live right here on talk sport from 700 p.m. tomorrow as for Wales live over on talk sport 2 right now they still lead Montenegro 2-n following the games in Paris Britain's par Olympians have written an open letter calling for the prime minister to ensure disabled children have equal access to school sport they say only one in four with disabilities regularly take part in PE want teachers to be given the right tools to to deliver inclusive lessons and olle popes ruled out complacency as being the root cause of England's downfall against Sri Lanka the tourist claimed the final test by eight wickets England's worst defeat Under head coach Brenda McCullum they still won the series 21 talk sport news the Princess of Wales says she's finished chemo and is concentrating on staying cancer free Cas disclosed the news in a video with her husband and children acknowledging It's been a difficult year for her family 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goalkeeper that should put the game to bed now it's just a question whether England can go on and score a few more goals Liam deap has only just missed he put one into the side netting saw his old man Roar at halim uh he's looking well uh Liam just needs a goal now 63 gone England three Austria one okay listen thank you very much indeed Mo some relief there for the Murphy fucha axis um the next story is is tricky because you know we're not so long ago from Scotland qualifying for their first major tournament in a long time there at the euros and everything was Rosy in the camp you could see good players coming through they younger players who got off to play in places like Italy Steve Clark appear to have it all under control I think I'm right in saying they haven't won in the last 13 games and last night once again thanks to the I say the force of nature to repeat a phrase that is Cristiano Ronaldo they even lost the point they were getting in Portugal in a 2-1 defeat um I don't know Dan I I wouldn't expect you to watch um Scotland quite as close as you watch England but watching the games and as a professional pundit what is going wrong a team that was you know cruising along quite nicely suddenly cannot get themselves into a winning position well I think the um the Euros was a big disappointment for lots of reasons um mainly to do with quality and and I think also a little bit of fear they they seem to freeze a little bit if I'm honest I expected more from them because they'd shown in the qualifiers especially with the performances against Spain for example that they are competitive and they're full of energy and they got some quality so it's not like they don't possess it they just didn't show it which was a big shame especially for the amount of fans they had there I thought the last two games although they've lost them both late on the last two games I've seen I had to look at the highlights of both and I thought they did all right I thought they were a bit more of a threat bit more expansive played with confidence couple of silly mistakes at the weekend of course late goal against Portugal not sure you ever expect a win against Portugal anyway with with their quality but I think there was some positive to take out of the last two performances that's for sure ultimately they a side that relies on togetherness being hard to be competitive without the ball not particularly got an abundance of talent in attacking areas so they're always a bit goal shy so they have to be perfect defensively they've just lost a bit of confidence I think after the after the Euros um and stats can be a tad misleading but that is a worrying one what you just said to not win for that many games because 13 games you don't play good teams every time do you no you've got a mixture there of opportunity haven't you and you haven't turned them into results let me just tell you that uh uh heading for the hour mark in leyon France have doubled their lead against Belgium um and what to say I'm not I'm not making this up the quality and the competitiveness this is like a European semi-final this um let me just check we got the Goan demele has added to Randle K moani's earlier goal um on 56 minutes to make it France to Belgium nil that's in the Nations League Of course um the problem I guess when this sort of run happens Darren is that the previous achievements very quickly get for forgotten and the attention inevitably turns since you can't change the players at International level to the manager um I I look I don't know who they would get to be better than Steve Clark frankly but that's the qu that's that's the question I'll soon be starting asking isn't it they will um and they'll be looking around and is always the way and Steve knows that having been in management for a long time that when the team doesn't win but the pressure starts to be come on in search of somebody who can what I would say is exactly the same as Danny why would you change a guy who gets the players believing in themselves and the way they play the manner that they went about their business on Sunday night and I did see the game I watched it with my son um who gave me a bit of stick when Ronaldo scored um but I thought SP uh Scotland played really well really well they played with belief uh they got forward they put pressure on they were a threat set pieces Scott took his goal really well Momin and scored he scored in the one previous as well didn't he he did he did two in as many games got 10 in his last 17 something nuts like that for for Scotland I started the entire show by saying how underrated he is and I think if he didn't if his Club side wasn't Manchester United I think we'd be speaking about him in much sorry we the The Wider public would be speaking about him in much more glowing terms I also think Gilmore's terrific player I'm so surprised Brighton got rid of him I know they've signed some other midfielders but he's a super Talent he was the best player on the pitch against Manchester United in the second weekend of the season and I think he he he he wasn't used in the Euros as much as he should have been I was amazed by that but ultimately for Scotland down it's very simple isn't it it's they're trying to qualify for every big tournament and then qualification I mean they've qualified for the last two Euros which is an achievement in itself Scotland have been in the wilderness for a long time terms of qualification so there some positives there but it's when they get to the tournaments not being able to translate that do you know what I would like to see personally um and they're good enough they are a good enough side for me to say this in a really constructive way obviously they're wonderful Travelers they have a great party I I wonder if that narrative has run its course now and it's time for maybe for that investment that needs to go in Scotland as a nation has produced some magnificent players over many decades and just like England can get to work to develop players I just would love to see a a cohort of young talented Scottish wonderful players like a greater cohort should we say come through the ranks and really show themselves to be a force on the international stage it would be terrific I'm sure the only go go ahead then qualifying for tournas the only other thing they could do is move to South America um we have we have I'm not being fa we have ourselves a ludic ludicrous situation now where the comall qualifiers are going on for the next World Cup um there are 10 teams in South America of course there are 13 countries but some of those play their football in conquer CF in the Caribbean Part of of the competition six of these South American teams qualify automatically now in the league and one goes in the playoffs you have to really try Ultra hard hello Bolivia um you have to try really very very hard indeed um Peru actually making the biggest mess with it this time around to not qualify from South America MH it used to be said that the World Cup the World Cup was overpacked with European teams You could argue now South America over represented as well um I guess Danny also pressed on another point if you're a nation outside of the powerhouses what you want is a generation that comes along with a great Striker um and Scotland haven't got that at the moment we know no one wants to play Norway in the next lot of qualifiers because they're going to combine lling Harland and S lot up front nobody wants to play Sweden where um isak and goerz um they won both their qualifiers by three goals um at the weekend um they both between them they shared the six goals um nobody would want to play Sweden because they've got their what talent they've got is at the front of the team because it's easier to organize defensively you know I saw this for a you know a decade and a half with the Republic of Ireland who got lots of very good results because Robbie Keane would get them a goal the rest of the team played their hearts out because they knew that if they if they kept the score line narrow that Kean would pop up somewhere and score a goal Scotland just don't have that available to themselves at the moment um let's move on then when we come back I want to talk about we know that there are three major players at Liverpool um who are coming into the last um year of in the last year of their contract of course moella Trent Alexander Arnold but also and this one has gone I think more under the radar Virgil Van djk now he's 33 but he's come out for the first time and of course we always get the best interviews with all due respect Daren when these people are away on International Duty because they do it with their mates from the local press and I can also say I was Miss it was Lost in Translation um Virgil has said he would very much like to stay at Liverpool should Liverpool be keeping Virgil Van djk Into well into his mid-30s we'll discuss that next here on kickoff 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manager Lee Carley with artists with Lee in the band or Lee in their name this is uh Chuckies in love um of course let me just get a Ricky Lee Jones from back in the day as well while she Whispers in the background let me give you two updates from International Football in um in nikit Montenegro pulled one back Montenegro won Wales to that game is live over on talk sport 2 meanwhile in Leon if you ever had any worry about the depth of France's Talent um it is ridiculous they just made their substitutions having gone two up against Belgium a few minutes ago Marcus turam and Randle cola moani have been replaced by Bradley Bara and Killian mbappe who has also taken the captain's arm B of vanolo kante so France may not be in their most fantastic form in the last 12 months but they have got an amazing group of players from which to choose and speaking of amazing Players let's turn our attention to the man who's been uh the central pole of Liverpool's defense and their captain for the best part of a decade now a virgal van djk um I don't really like to go on about age too much because the days when I was watching football first when when a player went past 30 were already starting to ID them with suspicion but um Virgil is 33 and in way on International Duty has let it be known I think for the first time he's actually said I would like to sit down with Liverpool and talk about extending my contract now Danny we know that Liverpool um have to have similar talks with Mo Salah and Trent Alexander Arnold um I want you to be dispassionate here is it important they keep Virgil vany for another two years or can you see any scenario where it's worth moving him on absolutely not he thank God you said that question of Sanity he's the most important one yeah by a mile now Salah is a a great and would be in my oldtime besti Liverpool 11 since I've been a kid head of Steve Highway yeah and Craig Johnston yeah and Sammy Lee the the thing is with Virgil it's not just how good he is and how good he looks this season by the way looks super fit and sharp but it's the influence he has on others every time he plays with somebody they they always get better and look better and we could name all the center RS he's had alongside him over the past six years seven years they've all looked better because of him and he brings a calmness to that Liverpool team and a presence and a fear amongst OPP opposition and the and the other thing is how good he is in both boxes on set plays now there's no coincidence over the years Liverpool set plays records have been so good because of mainly because of him he's a real threat so he's not just a wonderful footballer he's a wonderful influence and I think when you watch generally obviously there'll be an exception where he has a bad day and he's had one Bad season in his whole time at Liverpool but when players play against Virgil forwards even the best ones you can see the respect I wouldn't call it fear the respect that they've got for him very few try and run him very very few try and fight him very few really try and play on him because they know they can't get away they move somewhere else and his presence alone gives you comfort as a player and a fan totally agree I don't see any other Center half out there at the moment who you would you know even if Liverpool decided right you know we'll we we'll pay the 65 whatever it is 70 for gay for example let's just use that as a sure you knowwe whatever yeah yeah or BR weight I I both super talents who are really like good footballers and could play alongside Virgil and be comfortable and really but not replace him the level of play he's played for more than half a decade now has been you know he did have that struggle after his injury he did have a struggle C is the only one Dan you could Cel is the only one you could say is starting to look like he's got the same presence yeah if you if you um don't watch the video of the of the game against Italy at the weekend um it wasn't his fault he was exposed several times by a French Midfield appeared disinterested in the game yeah it's and it's again it's the same thing with celba isn't it's that mixture of physical power and presence Allied to his football um abilities and you I'm glad you said what you said Dan because I don't know where I've watched this with Liverpool in recent times where the opposition they do take their best striking option we usually only have one up front they try to get him where does the player or the coaches are saying now first thing you got to do is get yourself away from Van dijk whatever chance you've got the other fell whoever the other fell is um physically opposing Virgil Van djk is a mugs game um the problem they've got at the moment with Liverpool obviously starting the season well as canate looks great as well so when you're a strike you're thinking oh God better drop off sure well yeah but you can't all play 10 as gr soon as once famous said it's the easiest position to play we can't all be number 10 true I was interested in what you said there about he being the most important because because I mean I can I get what you might say about Mo Salah because as a forward is coming into the Autumn of his career unless of course he's going to go the Cristiano Ronaldo route um keep if they i' try and get them both on threeyear contracts and pay them what they want Trent yeah absolutely well Trent ideally would stay I mean I I thought he would be a more simple a more simple puzzle to solve in in terms of his contract because he's SC to his Liverpool lad the the big concern for me is that it's not done already and why CU that's not a difficult sell Trent two year like two years to go on his contract why or 18 months even why is that conversation not happened why has it not been concluded that is a real question mark to me now does it suggest to you that he himself has some doubts about staying now I think it does especially if the Madrid is is there as an option the Madrid lure is huge even for a SC if you're him Dan you've won all there is to win is there a challenge is there any more of a challenge um it's very difficult question so I I felt like I'd done everything I ever wanted dreamt of while while I was playing for Liverpool and I don't think I would have wanted to go anywhere else but I can never say never because I wasn't in that position but I do understand that when I got to Liverpool then Steve MC manman was there yeah yeah wonderful talent and um he had a lot to achieve still with Liverpool but he made that decision and who can blame him how how well he did when he went over there so Danny I I don't blame you you were a fantastic club and you might have thought you want to stay there for life but of course you hadn't yet played for Tottenham Hotspur that's true so there was always there was always something further down the line at the end of The Yellow Brick Road Danny there was another great mountain to climb listen let's go back to kennworth road because been a further goal in the under 21 International watching for talk sports I said all evening inan Abrahams and it's another goal for England the Danny Murphy reference are getting a little dull now so I won't have one leis Hall down the left hand side once again involved got inside the penalty a and he squared it across the six-yard box for West Broms Tom fellows on for his debut to put the ball into the back of the net first time from about six yards out looking really comfortable now for B futcher getting the JW full time he knows what he's doing England four Austria one I have to say when I saw I must admit I do not know the young Austrian players I'm happy to admit that when I saw England's up you think well this Austrian team are going to avoid a whack in here better be very good um because there's some beautiful players in that in that England on 21 Squad and uh the IR is Dan is that the austrians because I've seen both the games now we've looked fortunately got it on air and I saw the northern Island game because these have come out at times and tried to have a go back they've left themselves in the quality has then killed them yeah yeah whereas Ireland didn't do that no let let me now here we go this may be um I may have to announce that the Moose has become a goal Pig I used to call people another goal at kennworth rad Ian yeah I thought it was another goal for Jonathan row but it seems have been chalked off offside so I do apologize it is still England for Austria one but uh hopefully I'll be back with another goal before the end of the game thank you very much indeed Ian we we we were talking about Trent Alexander Arnold there um and there is a problem isn't it Daniel let's be honest um once Real Madrid start what they do which is to start unsettling players two years out from the end of their contracts um hello Christian Romero um it's often re I mean they are but they have they've already started that that process Darren um it's it's often very very hard then um for we we are pinning it on Trend I mean let's let's not we could and I might be wrong here but let's just look at the other options the fact is Liverpool might be thinking I don't know if they've had a brief conversation with Trent representatives and the type of money he'd be asking for maybe they think well hold on maybe we've got a right back in Connor Bradley who could be a superstar in on in in his own right you know how well he did he he looks an absolutely phenomenal player I'm not suggesting he's got Trent's talent but in a different way we don't know yet do we that's well he's not got his passing talent and his you know that wonderful football brain but he's he's got lots of other attributes I mean some of his performances last year when he came to the team were absolutely phenomenal so make my point B in his down is that maybe Liverpool aren't as Keen to throw huge contra tracks at Players as they once were because M Salah said in his interview that they hadn't spoken to him which I found absolutely incredible but it's interesting that in both those positions you mentioned Bradley at right back they brought Kaz in who will play the right side of the attack and it looks as though Liverpool are future proofing themselves against um and deciding if once we do start talking it looks as though things aren't going our way we're still covered we're going to be okay Y and he may also be a Victor him um again this is smoke in the air I haven't got anything solid yet but we saw the last transfer window that English clubs whether it's to do with financial Fair Play What or something else coming down the line that we don't know about yet but they did not go out and spend huge amounts of monies on players the way they have done in the past and they certainly weren't looking to sign free agents who are on gigantic wages Adrien rabio for instance still hasn't got a club because 300 Grand a week at Juventus yes and and part of that is is exactly as you say but also part of it with with Liverpool is that the workers gone in already to build what is an outstanding Squad so now they only need to make the Finish put finishing touches they're only you know each season they need maybe one two maximum players to to upgrade or maintain whatever standard they've set for themselves um I think with the biggest clubs when you put that work in season in season out transfer wise and the recruitment at Arsenal is outstanding the recruitment at Manchester City's outstanding they too they don't need to do that much business I think that's where Liverpool are right now well they've already got the lad from Valencia mammad Ashville the keeper they must be thinking i' had conversations with Allison about what cuz he's got what two years left yeah so that's they are they are planning and thinking ahead but the van dijk is the big I'm telling you now my my opinion on this is that watching Liverpool's offensers to do he's the one that needs to get sorted first think then that I've seen a lot of Center halfes get better with age and although people talk about him being 33 years of age I think about Tony Adams being the leader at Arsenal deep into his 30s and I think of so many other players who rather than their game dropping off into in their 30s that that they are still leaders they're still organizers they still got the authority there are very few players in the Premier League I'd probably saying Europe with the authority of a Virgil vend I don't I I personally think his level has remained remarkably consistent apart from that one season where him and the team were really poor I say really poor compared to their levels he he doesn't look on the slide at all no um so I think the benefit of him now is that he's more of a leader and more confident in what he is than he's ever been because he knows he can do it and he's been there absolutely that's the key to keeping him but but ultimately even if he wasn't of the age and some other big Club were coming in for him we talking about Madrid if Madrid were in for van djk at 27 and he didn't and who are you going to get to replace him absolutely no all right listen the uh it's 10 minutes to go in the game uh in leyon it's still France 2 Belgium nil and D deson continues to empty what I'm now officially announcing the most talented bench in the history of football Bradley bark and kilan mbappe came on five minutes ago he's just added Antoine Griezmann and Michael Alis to the French team I mean it's silly it really is very very silly indeed if they can defend properly if o maanu um can help CRA out a bit better and there will once again be a real power in European football they're two up there against Belgium when we come back we'll talk about a game um that's already been in Pro progress over on talk sport 2 for the last hour and a bit we'll talk about Wales and how their new manager Craig Bellamy is getting on and that's coming up next 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on by uh LS Hall the first for James Macy about 12 yds out right footed to steer home first time in the second for Tom fellows at the far Post 10 minutes from the end to score uh in between times there was a brief equalizer from bow a shot from the edge of the D for Austria but in the end of the second half they were well beaten and the under 21s who slipped up a little bit in Belfast on Friday are back on track firmly tonight finished at Kenworth Road England four Austria one yeah Morgan Rogers he any good at football it's fair to say um let's get then let's go back to the game where Wales are playing in Montenegro let's go over live now for the last few seconds of the game your commentary team is Dean Saunders and Nigel Adie on the far side radulovich and it will be a free kick for Montenegro and we welcome listeners from talk sport to the closing stages in nixit Jordan James has received the yellow card and Wales leading here by two goals to one with 90 seconds of added time to play and Dean Saunders it's been a real trial in the second half yeah self-destruct I mean we given another foul Jordan James there you know in the in in the dying seconds don't give fouls away they've got eight players now across our back line and it's just CR crossy fingers the ball doesn't drop to one of their players everybody back for Wales here a line of yellow shirts bed draggled due to the rain on the edge of the penalty area the high ball in is heathered Away by Jordan James nodded back in field OS me Su pressed and plays it forward but now Johnson can bring the ball clear and here is James he's got sber Thomas ahead of him needs to stay on side Thomas now plays It Forward down the left looking to go beyond yovic who's done well to get back to him but Wales should have a corner here but in fact Thomas has been penalized for The Challenge on yovic and it's a free kick for Montenegro no I think it was a foul and again the ball's going into the corner flag it's a great ball it's a it's a win from a winning position ball where you now make them defend and run back towards their own goal and he give them a foul goalkeeper's banging it up the pitch now Fleck on the Wales will clear from the long ball forward here is sber Thomas he have BR and Johnson in space to his left but he goes to the right and he's lost it we're into the final seconds of added time here here is the abedine Defender ruic forward towards the edge of the penalty area and christovich wide towards vvi down the right hand side is the one final cross here into the penalty area but it's blocked by Davis and there will be one final corner here for Montenegro to take something from this game yeah the RS coming down and the ball is still like a bar of soap so carallo will be thinking if I have to come and punch it I will but any chance your two center backs get your head on it and Ben Davis radunovic will take the corner kick on the far side it will be an inswinger surely the final chance of the game low into the near post the goalkeeper is forward but it's cleared away and Wales have won they've got their first Victory under Craig Bellamy hard earned in the end but it's finished Montenegro one Wales two wow they got that so you could hear there from Dean Saunders voice that was getting a bit um close to the Bone um huge congratulations to Wales unbeaten in their first two games under their new manager Craig Bellamy and I want to say particular congratulations tonight to KL darlo who's been playing professional football for the best part of a decade and a half and tonight made his his debut at 33 years of age in the goal for Wales and kept uh well he let like one goal in but he did end up on The Winning Side well done to KL daro who most of us will remember playing for years years and years and years as sometimes second fiddle sometimes first team goalkeeper at Newcastle a home draw Darren against turkey and an away win at Montenegro um I suppose you could argue that they they were unlucky against turkey but still a brilliant start I think for Craig Bellamy well when you were talking about the U magic moments at the start of the show I'd been telling Dan beforehand when we were thinking about what they were going to be that Wales were among my magic moments in the game against turkey even though they didn't score and I was saying to him if only they'd had a goal scorer and then they going to score two in the first what five minutes of the game and what they've done in these two games is they've really stamped the way that Craig Bellamy wants to play because they've been open they've been expansive they've been exciting I'll be honest in this game Dan's been schooling me with just how ludicrously um risky risky they've been in the second half because they really he was Burnley coach last year don't forget that well indeed and there was a moment probably about a minute before the move began for the second goal where Dan said they've got six players in the SEC in the opposition half here if one ball catches them out they're finished and that's exactly what went on to happen and I just think that he will probably concede goals along the way but Bellamy has talked about wanting to instill the memory and the the philosophy of Gary speed in this Wales team and you can see it already well there was a real there was a real um 2-1 there was a not in injury time Wales got in down the right hand wing on the right wing Dan and there was four men in the Box waiting for the cross and the two one up in injury time and I'm thinking and you know what he tried to cross it and I'm thinking just run it in the corner but this is you know what would they wouldn't have washed in your day of play but you know what so much to be positive for Craig B really pleased for him lots of energy players playing for the show nice positive like Risk front foot but risky but why not when they feel like they're up against the team they have equal quality to why not go after it why not take the risk the belief they'll get from this game so many people see Welles as a push over post gar Bal they haven't got The Cutting Edge they haven't got the striker they haven't got the belief I tell you what they'll take a lot of belief from these two performances because they were terrific under Bellamy and I'll tell you what the the importance of this result is that so many times in recent years the Wales campaigns have founded because they get really poor results away from home um in games where you expect them to get something and and I actually yeah bit like Danny I admire Craig for this go you know it's you can't you can't go to France and and take them on you know away from home but Montenegro is a different matter um give yourself a chance of winning by going for them and they've done that tonight theyve got a great start of course that really does help um and that's that that's good and because the other thing uh on transure Express last night um we had our Turkish correspondent on ctin J yiles who was disappointed that turkey hadn't won in the principality I had to point out to him that Wales are a terribly difficult team to beat at home the crowd in Cardiff is something else um and the atmosphere and the bucket hats are something else um and I had to calm him down a bit I said that that won't look at the end of this tournament that won't look like the worst result turkey have got I can assure you so great start for Craig Bellamy Four Points in the Nations League there more important in my mind at least a win away from home where they sometimes have struggled in recent years okay we still have 15 minutes to go don't forget you don't want to go anywhere else here on talk sport it'll be the sports bar at 10:00 but we will talk next up here about looking forward after this International break to the next round of fixtures and to a Manchester United manager who what there'll be three games into the season is already under pressure is that 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