Episode 34 - Polaris Dawn is Ready to Launch! (pt 2)

[Music] y yay everybody welcome back to two funny astronauts I'm one of your hosts Garrett reesman and this is Mike mamino the other host and uh we just want to be very clear that we're not saying that we're actually funny people right Mike no we are not we are only funny for astronauts so hold that to that standard it's a low bar okay so let's just go with that um speaking of which we have our our guests today this is part two with the Polaris Dawn crew let's welcome them uh to the to the podcast yay hello hi guys welcome back so you know we just this is the two funny asot and we were talking before uh this morning mass and I were talking on the phone saying that you know every crew should have like at least one funny person on on the crew uh right not more than one though right mass or no I was taught this as an one of my first I know one of my first meetings about something as a new astronaut Michelle tonini who is a uh a French a French astronaut and it was an experienced guy and we were in this meeting together and he said something about the way a crew is made up and he said you know Mike every crew needs at least one funny guy not at least needs one funny guy I don't know if he thought this is could be my contribution to the space program but he was like we he you should have one funny guy and then he goes but not more than one Mike as soon as you get two funny guys then all a sudden you have a gang and nothing gets accomplished one and only one so I don't think it's a requirement necessarily but I think it should be though so so so the the question we have for you guys get nothing accomplished on your podcast then no that's why we don't get anything because the two of us you could you already gotten the idea I'm surprised you guys showed up for part two I was going to be oh sorry we had very important things to do we're getting go quiet space you guys are doing this historic Mission and we spend half the time talking about Talladega kns so you know obviously we get very clear uh but our question for you guys is who is the funny one of the four of you if you had to pick one as your funny crew member who is it [Laughter] I think we got if I if I tallied that correctly I think we got two votes for a kid uh and one for Jared so let's go with kid okay Anna I think Anna and Sarah the only thing I Le in this all right all right so kid we established that we established now uh it was it was a it was by a by a nose it was a very close call but we established that kid is the funny one so kid tell a joke oh geez what oh my gosh can't be put on a spot I don't remember that so bad that's a horrible one all right we're just m with you don't have to do it well wait a minute this you I thought of something gett do you remember the tradition on the shuttle Launchpad with the pilot with that this is the way we did it anyway is that the pilot was responsible for telling jokes oh man no did you have that on your flights my pilot was box on my first flight oh you don't want him to tell any jokes no no because we had to keep you know the people listen on those loops and they he would be x-rated we can't you know he'd be telling all these no was the pilot had to have a few ready to go all right that was part of the responsibilities good news is you still have a couple weeks kid to get ready and prepare but uh I appreciate the prep time try they don't have to be good jokes they just have to be something yeah something to keep it going all right that's cool that's the way we did it yeah well we do what we got we want to talk about the suit we want to talk about training but before we do I do also want to say that uh you know I had the Good Fortune of of meeting Sarah and Anna back at SpaceX before in fact and and Sarah when I first met Sarah um she wasn't even Sarah Gillis right it's true you were what were you Sarah LaVine Sarah Lavine right that's it so so we do you remember the All Hands meeting we had when you first came in do you remember this yeah I was trying to forget it yeah do remember that oh oh come on so no that's not so so the thing was back then this is we had just started what was called crew operations it later became space operations which it still is today at SpaceX which is the Ops group uh combining the ground operators and the crew uh as well but back then it was just crew and back in those days we had a very Str demographic in our group right we were majority female and majority Jewish right which is both highly unusual for for groups in Aerospace in general or or especially at SpaceX but we had like Jason ten and bomb right we had uh uh Rachel Foreman we had even Molly McCormack which might sound like a deal breaker there except for the fact that her mother was Jewish okay and she's actually still uh Molly now is the head of human integration at uh at vast now so she's still working hard but anyway we had this group that was majority female majority Jewish and I got up to to talk about our group at this all hands and I pointed out that hey this is an aberration right statistically we're going to revert to the mean and this won't last this this this demographic over time as we grow it's going to change but I would like to invite the newest member of our group I would like to introduce her here is Sarah LaVine so he really helped us with our with our dist our distinguished uh demographic there uh and it just it just got worse but but eventually it changed so thank you for that by the way I never thanked you properly I'm I'm I'm surprised Sarah didn't want to relive that episode was that embarrassing that that embarrass you in front of everybody or um I think that was week one on my job at SpaceX so you know I was meeting a brand new team that's a good way to get recognized don't you think anyway it was fun yeah it's gonna change but I would like to introduce our newest member Sarah LaVine so so Garrett was Garrett a was he like kind of can we say like he was kind of your boss when you were there both for both of you was he Garrett turn off your speaker please was gett Ed good at being a boss was he a good boss or was he like oh man like what was he like a was he you know just making you work all the time or was he what was he like tell us the truth too he's not listening it was a lot of fun uh we had a good time when we were there weren't very many people thinking about human space flight across SpaceX so it was like this really small team of people that were working on the interior of a spacecraft trying to bring it all together so we had a lot of fun just I think there was like nine people originally it was super tiny and then I grew over time and we became space Ops um and yeah no if we had a good time that's not how you described him last night he is the funny one there's the funny guy right there he's got it does need to prepare any jokes for the Launchpad it's just gonna flow naturally see Michelle tonini was right that's right yeah but I also want to say Jared you know I'm I'm I'm a big fan of of how you've approached this whole thing going way back to inspiration 4 your first involvement with SpaceX and and uh you know you you intentionally are pushing SpaceX and I don't think SpaceX would I I I it's not I one I know that SpaceX would not be making Eva suits right now if it weren't for you saying hey we need we need to expand the envelope we need to go further and you don't have to do that right that's your choice and and I I commend you for it I'm I'm a I'm a big uh uh fan of of of what you're doing uh and and and even going back to inspiration 4 and how you went about that and how you how you chose the altitudes you're flying out and everything I just think it's great and the the other thing I want to I want to give you props for is we we when we in the early days when we started talking about uh doing uh non NASA missions at SpaceX uh we I was a proponent of um doing something to ensure the team building part of the training you know and and I that didn't get a lot of traction I'll be honest with you in the early days of space there wasn't uh this why do we need to do that that's a waste of time you know uh uh and and I think that's something you understood intuitively and you and and with inspiration 4 when you climb Mount rineer and when you do the aviation stuff and now with this with with this Mission with pois Dawn you guys when when I saw inspiration 4 climb into the dragon you were all climbing in as a as a crew and not as individual uh you know like a pickup game or something you know you were guys were a well bonded crew and and I think that was all stuff that that really came from from you or or am I giving you too much credit you're giving me way too much credit way too much no I I'd say look it's uh it's awesome uh that SpaceX is is really so supportive of of of Polaris and contributing to it um you know it's uh not every not every idea is a good idea it all has to kind of be in the direction of um making life multiplanetary and getting to Mars space suits is a big big is big part of getting people uh you know moving around on on the surface of another planet at some point so it all has to be in the direction of Mars um but if it kind of checks those boxes and helps get ahead uh then you know they jump on top of it uh so yeah there's no individuals in any of this there's 10,000 you know plus really awesome people at SpaceX Polaris has a a really big team it's all contributing to it um and that's how the objectives to play Mission get formed and then on inspiration four it SpaceX had all the hard park down um you know of putting people into orbit and bringing them home safely and you know we we had a you know reasonably decent um you know astronaut trainer along the way so I just just trying to to supplement in uh in in some ways and and yeah I think the I think the team building stuff was super important um you know as you guys know I mean you know we were only up there on I4 for three days and you got a 50% likelihood of people getting space adaptation syndrome 50% got it and uh and yet you know you can kind of progress through that also uh you know our toilet was broken I think some people were familiar with that as well so plenty of reasons to not be uh you know on your best form uh and yet like everybody kind of remained you know happy healthy and productive and and and didn't didn't want to come home on day three so I attributed a decent amount of that to some of the stressful environments we were able to create on Earth before the mission and it all worked out well that's awesome I think that was very I want to I I I think you're not giving yourself enough credit I I do think you you deserve uh you know I think I think a lot of that idea that we're going to Bond as a team and when we when we in Ingress the vehicle we're we're ingressing as a team where we don't want to let each other down because I mean we when we hired uh Anna's husband uh at SpaceX as our first flight dock um we who who by the way I should mention this Mass I told you this right we tried to get enil to do a a cameo to do a surprise appearance on this yeah I wonder why he turned you and I down he he didn't oh he was all for it we I talked to him on the phone yesterday he was going to totally do it and NASA wouldn't let him I know right I mean come on I gave him I don't know why they wouldn't want him to be on our show I gave him like 12 hours heads up I mean come on H but that was very disappointing but uh anyway um when when we were going to hire we we ultimately hired him but interviewed some other people and one of those other people said that actually medically speaking and Anna you could maybe address this medically speaking if you were like healthy enough to go on a roller coaster that might be a bit of an exaggeration but you're pretty much healthy enough to fly in space um as far as just human health not necessarily performance but health and that the biggest concern that they had as they were looking towards doing private missions was actually anxiety they said they did some tests with the centrifuge and they found that people were all excited about it and then when they were going to climb into the the gondola of the cuge they freaked out and like ran away one guy apparently hid in a broom closet they go like they had to go like drag him out and uh so um the broom closet but I think the key to a broom closet at the cuge broom closet on it somebody hear like that so yeah they do so so um so anyway they they the point is is that that the import of all this that you instinctively knew to do Jared was was that uh if you're if you are just grab a bunch of random people and I think that is a really which is what they were doing with those centrifug tests they didn't know anybody they were going in there as individuals and a lot of them did freak out but if you go in there as a crew and your as a team it's very different right and and that's and that's something I think as we go forward with more and more people flying in space is something that we really need to think about I don't know that's not really a question about how about what have you what go ahead kid that was after they found me in the broom closet all right I was I wasn't gonna say anything kid we gave you the opening right there man you that was good man you are the funny guy what uh so what do you what have you guys done because as you know that's really important we used to do these nlls courses and of course we used to fly a lot together and so what what what what have you guys done together as a crew for that teamwork bonding getting to know each other stuff we've done so many things and uh that uh I mean I think that's ultimately what put the priority on SpaceX is that uh if uh if they didn't launch us we were going to keep doing some of these things increasing inj so it it really was ultimately what got things in gear to launch us at the end of the the month but you could probably see some of the pictures we did we had an extensive uh career skydiving for a while which uh you know went mostly well all of you all of you went skydiving uh I at the Air Force Academy uh some of the best training I think we've ever had uh during their um their Air Force jump Wing program it was uh uh super cool we' done a lot of things kid tell us he he he's big on the supplemental training some uh some jumped more than others um yeah it's we we did a lot of uh especially in the beginning um we ended up climbing C epoxy volcano down in South South America we've done a lot of fighter jet training allows us to you know get in those uh situations where we we experience higher levels of risk getting comfortable and uncomfortable scenarios learn a lot about ourselves learning a lot about the team um yeah so I don't know what else scuba scuba skydiving Cent 10 meter there we go 10 meter that was jumping off the yeah that looks scary that is scary all right so when you said the sky diving Garrett do you remember with Jessica's birthday a few years ago yes called me on her birth so my wife she had a significant birthday a couple years ago and she said uh she wanted to jump out of an airplane on her birthday right and she said wouldn't it be great if we' do that get that together and I said that would be great but that's not happening I will I even I will you know voler to even fly that thing but I am not jumping out of it and I'll stay on the ground I'm not jumping out of the airplane as long as it's working so she's like really you should be and I go I'm not doing so Garrett calls do you remember this Garrett yeah I do you called me just to say hi and I'm on the you know she goes I go what are you doing I go I'm out I'm at an airport here on Long Island Jessica's gonna Jessica's gonna jump out of an airplane for her birthday and Garrett says what is she crazy see what I mean so you know I you have my admiration doing that yeah that's that's pretty cool you went and did that they would let us do that remember somebody broke no we we get Hur well that's the way I mean the jump getting e a kid would know about this more than anybody I think right but ejection SE training in the military they didn't include a jump when you did your ejection seat training as an air be right no no absolutely not I'd rather stay in the comfort of a cockpit then jump out right but when you did you did Paris sailing probably right for that yeah you did did to us yeah so thank God we have to jump or we have to jump off that 10 meter platform oh did when you how many of you did The Cannonball off that thing no no cannonballs one and done consequence stuff is is cool and um I mean it does create a different environment than a simulator that you can just hit the reset button on um we have fighter J we do a lot of training in but we we can't do it at the same Pace um you know as NASA a couple times a week or something so we pitched very hard with the support of the Air Force Academy of doing the skydiving program where your first jump is solo so they do like this really intense it's normally like a two-e ground training they condensed it to like two days for us and um it was really awesome training actually by the cadets the wi the wings of blue we had to make this whole case to SpaceX of why we thought skydiving was a good idea and we knew we had you know two years before so might as well make the most of it and then it turns out that this is like the standard for the cosmonauts that they they're actually don't fly very often in in like tactical aircraft in fact do a lot of skydiving um we it would have probably helped our case had we known that at the time of the initial pitch but um any super super cool that's interesting that's true but it's important to do some of that stuff because we find that that's why we fly around in those t-38s right is that um yeah you can find somebody could get in simulator and be fantastic and and uh you know and in the simulator it could be a really bad day everything's breaking and it's really tragic but you know that no matter what happens and whether you do well or not you're going to go home watch the ball game have dinner and go to sleep right uh no matter what and it's different when you're in a real world environment where there are real consequences and and that's why we do that because because it's important to know how people react in that environment right that's again [Laughter] I don't know I kind of like staying inside of the airplane I don't really care what's going on inside the airplane that was okay but the idea of leaving it I didn't I didn't think that was a bargain yeah yeah it was pretty cool though the Paras selling was fun we did Paras we did all that stuff and you know of course a lot of other stuff that was kind of crazy and cool but um it's interesting it's interesting that that's what the model you guys use for that that's kind of cool all right let's get back to play's Dawn now all right what are we talking about now Focus space suits we got to go into space you started talking about all these things what are you doing Garrett go lead us go ahead uh so the space suit let's talk about the suit um because it tell us a little bit more detail about what its features capabilities how is it different from the one that mass and I wore the the Emu and other than the operating pressure tell us more sure so um the space suit is obviously a design Evolution from the intervehicular suit that SpaceX has flown now for many crews um and they I would say that's where they started and then over the course of the last two years they've redesigned pretty much every single aspect of the suit um this now needs to support crew out inside in the vacuum of space so there's been really comprehensive design of Halls to introduce joint Mobility how do you ensure you can actually move your arms and your hands and your wrists in the way you need to when you're at you you know five PSID pressure um there's new thermal layers there's new kind of whole interior construction of how the Garment comes together um you can see here there's there's a new visor that's going to provide sun protection um inside that actually are some of the really cool components where uh you have both a first-person camera as well as a heads up display that's kind of feeding out our suit pressure temperature information about how our suit is performing um but yeah it's been a really incredible design Evolution with the SpaceX team over the last couple years we would come in you know we'd go home on a Friday and come back on Monday and they'd have added an entire new component there's now a HUD or a brand new joint we need to get to try so it's been a really cool Evolution over the last two years to both build the suit and the operation that supports the suit with new hardware and dragon so we can actually move around and successfully open the hatch and stuff like that yeah I would just say I it that that being part of that whole development process as um as Sarah talked about is is the coolest part I mean you know again every week you have a new arm or a new wrist and it's this Frankenstein soup but what you get to learn along the way so for example like some of us got to go out to White Sand Missile Range where they um they have the NASA has like a a hyper velocity lab where they they shoot millimeter size projectiles you know at at different objects like close to orbital velocity speed it's like like seven km plus plus a second and you learn really cool things like uh you don't want to get hit by mmod that millimeter of aluminum is going to go through a foot of aluminum at that at that velocity um so it's just been a lot of good learning and I I say all that because you know the space suit looks really cool um obviously it's not as like bulky and it's not designed to do the the same things as like the Emu suit is but I wouldn't want anyone to think you know they took an Iva suit and just and just plugged a long umbilical and tether into it I mean this was two years of of a lot of hard work to get to the point that the suit can survive and huge temperature swings outside it can minimize damage from things like mmod it gives you awesome insights through the HUD the camera sun protection and uh and has a lot of mobility and dexterity so it's all in like the the direction of goodness of being able to eventually you know do some real operations outside a vehicle or you know perhaps on the moon Mar somay what what are you wearing inside of this thing Shar wish we can we pull up a picture of it no we have some ESD uh you know uh safety suit C it's it's like a modification of the normal Comfort garments but it looks like shark skin and uh it looks really really slick until you sweat what about what about your potty procedure what you got for that we're gonna go to live to kid on we spent uh a good six and a half hours in the suit yesterday and I can tell you firsthand that uh uh one diaper is not [Laughter] enough I think I got trench foot yesterday I had a yeah I fully tested out the bladder of the system and it works um airtight bladder which bladder did you test out wow so so I'm assuming that's your first thing to put on and then you've got you've got a a a thermal Comfort garment you said the shark skin or whatever you call it that's a that that then and in the suit after that got booies and and then we have gloves for uh you know to help us get into the suit it's all the the the suit itself Eva suit is is one piece it's got a spiral zipper uh you kind of enter through the top half at first with your arms in your in your head again the helmet is part of the integrated into the system um and then you slide the pants on and you got more or less you got zippers for the boots as well as zipper for the waist and zippers for the wrist you can expose your hands things yeah you got the bladder zipper and then the restraint zipper on top of that interesting we did you have was there zippers on the uh on the on the Russian uh no the Russian one the soal anyway uh has this big giant bladder and then you you you you Bunch it all up and then you tie rubber bands around it and I'm not I'm not making this up this is true that's how they that's their body steal closures is like two they're they're like big beefy rubber bands a good Russian rubber bands they're like serious but that's how they do it yeah but that's it wasn't I'm sorry was was that the launch an entry suit though Garrett wasn't the or that's that's our Iva suit the the so for but for Eva Orlon did it have did it have zippers or no it's the oron is a back entry where you you there's a hinge and the up and then you step in then you have a lever and you pull it and it seals against over Rings yeah so zippers are kind of a new I don't know if it's a new thing maybe they had back in the early we had them on the Asus right yeah but I'm sorry that that was uh that was um you know launch an entry not for the not for a space walking suit true um I I think that's kind of interesting you don't want to get say again sorry Jared I didn't maybe maybe the whole world heard what what' you say oh I I said these are these are really big meaty zippers you know want to get caught yeah but that's probably we had to be so careful with all the components and making sure everything was latched correctly so you didn't get oblique right so I just getting was it something about Mary what was the one with Ben Stiller flashback there like the water survival suits yeah cool HUD the HUD is is really awesome you know we we I had a student team uh and swanie also had his team we went down JSC and we did the Student Competition to do a heads up display for a space suit but we were using Hollow lenses right and and and just as technology development just proof of concept kind of stuff but actually integrating it into the suit that's was like oh yeah that's like you know Generations from now so but I love the fact that SpaceX they just like they did it in a week right is that true crazy like a weekend I mean the first the first version was like a weekend deal I mean they've made it a lot nicer looking but I mean it they had a functional HUD in a weekend um and now it's now it's like you know really nice polished up flight Hardware how do you uh how do you interact with it if you want to I guess there I'm assuming there's like things you can change or clutter or how do you uh how do you control that thing the HUD think in Russian you what you think in Russian Firefox reference on Firefox yes that's uh so it's um I think housekeeping wants party housekeeping's knocking I thought they don't do that anymore in a post pandemic every other day sign out status here at the marot now I just curious with the Hut is it like voice activated at all or is there do you have switches on your on the space suit or how does uh how do you interact with the suit in general is there anything to control on it got four lines of data time uh or elapse time pressure of the suit itself uh temperature as well as relative humidity and stays there the whole time your HUD does it alerts yeah it Cycles constantly so you don't interact with the HUD it's just cycl that thinks you need at various points okay retical for targeting targeting targe reticle can you turn it off uh or you just have to wait for it to to go away and go through its cycle you you wouldn't want it off until the end of the to the operate I mean it's really insightful I mean we definitely spent a lot of time staring at it during the uh chamber run yesterday so um it's not like a distraction uh so it doesn't interfere you wouldn't need to declutter it it's um it's there when you like you can train your eyes to it when you want an update um and then you can look ahead and it's not bothersome so it's it's positioned really well it's definitely something you would not want to turn off okay cool and that's your only uh Telemetry that you have access to other than audio alarms or is there anything else no there's no SU pressure gauge or anything like it is it has two pressure on the HUD okay gotcha what about the um so the mobility you talked about the shoulder Mobility joint the the wrist Mobility joint but these are all like in the Emu these were all big bulky bearings U metal bearings um and and on this suit they're all these are soft joints right because you have to use it during launch and and entry as well right so how how how different is that that's one of I think the coolest technology breakthroughs that the SpaceX team was working with to help enable this um theyve basically created a flexible bearing that when the suit is unpressurized it allows it to kind of comfortably sit against you when you have the restraints over your shoulder it's it kind of feels just like soft goods and then when the suit pressurizes um it actually becomes a pretty functional bearing um and you're able to rotate the joints and the shoulders we have kind of the Shield wiper upper arm Rotator and then the wrist rotators as well so it's it's a really slick design that they've come up with to enable that and it's a very comfortable Su suit for sure even pressurized or unpressurized long durations is not an issue and even when we're pressurized you know we have a manual relief valve on one leg and then you got the umbilical connection on the other and you got to manipulate the valves and levers on both of those and it's pretty easy to do uh with Mobility as well as dexterity of the fingers where where are those valves you mean when you said so where are these things located that you're reaching to interact with they're right on top of the thigh you got one manual that will depressurize utilize to deess and then uh we have the umbilical connection on the other leg and there's a on top of the connection there's a secondary uh valve for flow that will uh turn on and off based on where we are in the phase of flight because you're going to have to probably I'm assuming there's things when you you're going to have to work the hatch you're going to have to do other things how the the gloves uh gloves was always an issue for us in the Emu because you're working against pressure did you try a bunch of different tasks when you're pressurized inside of this thing to see how your hands responded to being able to do work yeah we we've I don't I mean we've had to had like over a 100 pressurized runs in the suits throughout the development period um the gloves just keep getting better uh what was really cool was some point probably I don't know three four months ago they stopped rolling in design changes in our kind of Frankenstein training suits and you Pro you know from our perspective it's like well this is this is as good as it's going to get but they were rolling him into the flight suit so when we actually tried our flight hardware and press that up for the first time it was like a it was almost like a generational leap over what we were training in so just dexterity improved that much more the mobility in the shoulders wrists elbows um but yeah we we've been interacting with tons of things like everything from our displays themselves to uh everything from our displays to hat manual manual operations of it um the various Mobility AIDS built in the vehicle so it's um yeah tons of runs with it must have been nice to get into those flight suits and get that new suit smell at least until kid pissed all over it [Laughter] right what what do you have for uh what do you have for nutrition inside of there you have a drink bag or what what do you guys think about what you would need in there what do you have in there nothing I mean is gonna be H you know two hours so we I I think the idea is don't uh we're probably going to intentionally not want to be drinking especially after what happened to kid um I think I think the ideas uh will will be well hydrated and and uh and full prior to that point in time but we know SpaceX is considering this I mean they have a whole road map um you know for future block updates so um you know given consideration to what would be required for an8 hour Eva uh you know it's not lost on them it's just not needed for you know test mhm yeah I mean that I remember uh I'm with you kid uh we we when we were going up there from my first Eva we had this the previous shuttle flight they had this horrible thing happen where one of the crew members wasn't hydrated enough and they actually were not able to urinate and so they had to cancel an Eva because the guy couldn't pee which is really embarrassing you know so so we were all drinking like crazy because we didn't want that to happen to us and so I I used that diaper like four times before I even got out the airlot cuz I was so super hydrated um but yeah know it worked fine as long any diaper recommendations any brands that would work better than yeah you know we didn't have a choice unfortunately we had it but I tell you this H I tried this once in the NBL just a I shouldn't say this this is disgusting too late you have to say it we're imagining worse gota say it you're already there let me just you don't want to use it for number two okay if you're only two hours you can hold it all right wait wait a minute you didn't do that did you in the N first I push the envelope I wanted to try try it out I wanted to find out what would happen I waited I waited until we were back like on the dawning stand coming out you did that in a in a pool run I did yeah I did ah you gota be kidding me just once you got to put that on your resume no one that's bravery that's not even I don't even Jerry Ross never did that I'm sure how do you how do you know no one ever did come on God oh I know I can't I mean maybe maybe I maybe I'm naive but I can't even fathom thinking about look look I didn't want it the F the first time if it was an emergency I didn't want it the first time to be in space right you I don't know man there's a lot of emergencies I wouldn't want to happen ever in space s training and that's one of them we we were in that suit for like over nine hours what what would happen you want to know right Garrett the uh the viewers are wondering whether that movement changed your center of [Laughter] mass it's a good question uh it did because I tried I tried to get further up in my helmet to get away from the smell so that's I think what change the center of mess more than and then you're you're at the pool so that means there's a group of people getting you out of that thing yeah did anyone like notice yeah they noticed I mean how come I haven't heard about this before this is news I think I cannot believe I didn't hear about this before yeah maybe because unbeliev probably because that's that leads to a new you would have gotten probably another nickname out of that Garrett but yeah people love you so much it didn't M you're the only guy that could get away with if I did that forget about it I'd be in a lot of trouble well have a vegetarian meal the night before so I think that helps how about some viewer questions g i rescue this conversation with some viewer questions uh yeah let's take some viewer questions I gu one last one though while we frecking out one did you guys do any uh like training in in like in I know it sounds like you did a lot of suit tests in vacuum and all other places maybe did you did any underwater stuff or did that uh with with the suit at all or a mkup of it other than kids recently submerged [Laughter] event uh we we did a lot of scuba initially uh together SpaceX um you know decided rather than build a a pool and submerge their their only simulator and and Suits into it they uh basically developed an offload system I think similar to your Argo at Nasa and uh basically allowed us to interact in and out of the vehicle pressurized um micro gravity conditions plus do a lot of the contingency work hatch UPS we did a crew rescue event recently um so uh yeah uh I I wouldn't say like anywhere near the extent of like what NASA prepares for with NBL but uh we spent time uh underwater and uh and above the floor and and so and and when you're when you're in the Argos kind of that when you're suspended you're suspended horizontally or vertically Which Way both both both Yeah we actually built like a a whole sideways simulator so we can do all the hatch Ops as needed with a like a good the correct gravity Vector not really impacting our movements so it's been pretty fun to now have kind of two simulators we can go between for different orientations oh that's cool all right mat you got anything else you want to go to the viewer view oh I got so many questions but we better stop let's go to let's go to the viewers I got a lot of questions for you too Garrett I'm sure you have for me after this but we'll talk later let's go to the viewer question uh so so a couple different questions have been coming in a lot of interest in the suits specifically I know we've done a ton of talking about the suits of course it's this isn't just about the suits you'll have a lot of stuff going on but uh have there been any details or any visuals of the Huds release like we've all been looking for what it looks like and uh Jared you were sort of saying you could not avert your eyes but look over to one side is it sort of down the side where there's four lines of data is it in the middle at the top of the bottom how do you describe that where the hood is can you tell us you actually might have seen it in at least one of the pictures that went by earlier um there's a projector and then a kind of a lower surface and the lower right of your vision um but it it's kind of feeding you information at the lower part of lower left Vision ah so that's probably this photo here I bet you does that is that the right photo there that has a projector and a like a little screen sort of thing down by his chin down by the chin ah so down that way that's the the oh and then there's stuff up there as well okay so is that a camera on the side a better frame for your eye when you're pressurized and not walking yeah makes sense okay is is is the suit camera installed on this version here up up near your temple or is that something else yeah that's the second Circle you drew there that's that's the suit camera all right good deal a lot of people were asking like what that looks like or you know is it lines of text is it flashy does it move a lot does it distract you and I think you did say that it didn't distract you while you were uh working so another question from viewers and this is something I have as well there's suit personalization right where you make the suit fit your body better right but has there been any personalization of your suits that's more aesthetic like you know you've got your call sign on it somewhere or art that you've added to your suit cuz we see it in sci-fi right all the the belters have their decorated helmets and we've really made it to space when astronauts are up there decorating their space suits have you done anything aesthetic to to personalize your space suit or do you have plans to allowed to Beed reest guys are not like mining asteroids you know that right yet Garrett yet they're not miny asteroids yet suit could be very useful for the future Garrett did some decoration though didn't you Garrett on your we used to write on our cuff checklists we could write on our cuff check checklists you know different things and like notes and stuff you want to share what you did or no it kind of cool not not after last not after last night but uh oh that's a different that's just between you and me though that's all right basb a baseball reference I put a New York Yankees logo on the with a sharpy so I could I was hoping to get like free sausage sandwiches when I went to the games but uh didn't really work out um I've got another space walk related question here are there any tools that you'll be using to test the dexterity of the suit gloves while you're on the de in the depressurized State uh no no uh so um we did have some requests for that that didn't work totally yeah yes but um no so we are going to be interacting with various Mobility AIDS that's part of the suit mob uh the suit test Matrix we have three different phases of tests um we are as part of those tests simulating like what singleand or no or or um hands-free operations would look like with disturbances as if we were interacting with something but uh no no uh no like big big honken tools for any gotcha I got when when you come out the hatch are you your feet restrained in any way or do you have to always hold on with at least one [Music] hand so when we come out will'll be unrestrained um there's this new structure around the top of the spacecraft that's a Mobility Aid to support us um but once we're out there there's actually kind of a lowest bar within that that you're able to hook your toes under and use so we'll be doing handsfree demonstration you know how to engage the feet how to disengage the feet um and then figure out kind of what it would be like to simulate tool usage and how well you can maintain stability in the suit in that configuration cool nice we'll turn the that's the viewer questions I've got we'll turn the the outro to the show here over to yall M Garrett oh okay oh wow we're out of time that's it fast it did go very fast yeah man that's been all that talk about bodily functions in the suit I find that remarkable I don't know I think it went fast for Jared or now I'm not sure about the crew hope we because this is this was really fun and we really appreciate you guys uh spending some time with us it's great to see all of you and uh have a couple beers with you guys oh that'd be great oh yeah we we love that yeah yeah yeah we love that yeah may I I was gonna say maybe we could do a follow-up afterwards if your game I'm sure Garrett and I would love to do that see what it's like if you guys are maybe you want to cut that part of it out in case you change your mind but it was really really cool to hear what you're gonna do uh and really excited about about all the stuff you can learn and and U and I'm looking forward to hearing all about itad I'm I'm I'm just looking forward to watching the whole mission live and uh hopefully just a couple weeks from now and and uh uh it's going to be really exciting to see you guys do this and uh yeah let's definitely when we get back let's definitely all get together for a beer that'd be awesome yeah it's a it's a special time you know those those last few uh weeks or however long it is before you go uh the way you spend your time is really important and we really sure appreciate you uh spending some time with us yep thank you very much for doing it thank you guys thank you guys see you guys for beer soon yeah count us in all right everybody thanks for joining us uh on this special episode of two funny Ash nuts and we'll see you next time