Episodio completo de Al Punto con Jorge Ramos, domingo 8 de septiembre de 2024

>> LET'S GET TO THE POINT, "AL PUNTO." WE ARE TWO DAYS AWAY FROM THE CRUCIAL FIRST DEBATE BETWEEN DONALD TRUMP AND KAMALA HARRIS. >> I TRUST VENEZUELA AND I KNOW VENEZUELA WILL BE FREE. >> MARIA CORINA MACHADO IS NOT GOING BACK DESPITE THE ARREST WARRANT FOR EDMUNDO GONZALEZ. WE WILL TALK TO HER. >> WE WILL SHARE THE OTHER HALF. UNIVISION INVESTIGA AND INSIDE CRIME DISCUSSES PAYMENTS TO POLITICIANS IN THE COUNTRY. >> DO YOU REMEMBER THIS VIDEO? ACTOR AND COMEDIAN ADRIAN URIBE MADE US THINK HE WAS LEAVING ACTING FOR POLITICS. HE IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE PREMIER OF HIS FILM, "EL CANDIDATO HONESTO." AND CELEBRATING 50 YEARS IN JOURNALISM. WE BEGIN NOW. ♪ >> LET'S GET TO THE POINT, "AL PUNTO" WITH JORGE RAMOS. >> LET'S GET TO THE POINT, "AL PUNTO." WE ARE 50 DAYS AWAY FROM THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS AND TWO DAYS FOR THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE BETWEEN VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS AND FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP. BOTH CANDIDATES SPENT THE WEEK CAMPAIGNING, ANNOUNCING PROPOSALS AND PREPARING FOR THE DEBATE. THIS IS A KEY DEBATE FOR BOTH. ANNA VARGAS HAS THE LATEST. >> THE FIRST DEBATE WILL TAKE PLACE ON SEPTEMBER 10 IN PHILADELPHIA. THIS WEEK, ABC NEWS REVEALED THE RULES, WHICH INCLUDE THAT THE CANDIDATES WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO RESPOND EACH QUESTION. THERE WILL BE NO OPENING STATEMENTS AND THE MICROPHONES WILL BE TURNED OFF WHEN IT IS NOT A CANDIDATE'S TURN TO SPEAK. HAVING THE MICROPHONES OFF IS NOT WHAT THE KAMALA HARRIS CAMPAIGN WANTED. >> PEOPLE DESERVE AN OPPORTUNITY NOT TO HEAR A GIVE-AND-TAKE BUT TO HEAR BOTH THESE CANDIDATES INTERACT WITHOUT INTERRUPTION, TO BE ABLE TO JUDGE BOTH THEIR CHARACTERS. >> IN TERMS PROPOSALS, TRUMP PRESENTED HIS ECONOMIC PLAN IN NEW YORK WHERE HE PROPOSED LOWERING CORPORATE INCOME TAXES TO 15% FOR COMPANIES THAT MANUFACTURE IN THE UNITED STATES. >> YOU CAN CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT. SOME MAY SAY IT IS ECONOMIC NATIONALISM. I CALL IT COMMON SENSE. I CALL IT AMERICA FIRST. THIS IS A POLICY THAT BUILT THIS COUNTRY AND THAT WILL SAVE OUR COUNTRY. ? -- >> KAMALA CARES PROPOSED RAISING THE CORPORATE TAX RATE AND OFFER BENEFITS TO SMALL BUSINESSES. >> I WANT TO SEE 25 MILLION NEW SMALL BUSINESS APPLICATIONS BY THE END OF MY FIRST TERM. [APPLAUSE] >> TO ACHIEVE THIS, WE WILL LOWER THE COST OF STARTING A NEW BUSINESS. >> THIS WEEK, FORMER REPUBLICAN VICE PRESIDENT DICK CHENEY ANNOUNCED HE WOULD VOTE FOR KAMALA HARRIS AND SAID TRUMP IS THE BIGGEST THREAT THIS COUNTRY HAS FACED. >> DICK CHENEY WILL VOTE FOR KAMALA HARRIS. >> THIS IS THE RHETORIC FROM THE RINOS AND FALSE REPUBLICANS OR FROM DEMOCRATS. PERHAPS HE IS EVEN THINKING OF CHANGING POLITICAL PARTIES. BUT THE FACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. >> TRUMP ALSO FACED HEARINGS IN NEW YORK, WHERE HIS ATTORNEYS APPEALED THE E. JEAN CARROLL VERDICT. >> WE HAD A TRIAL TODAY. IT IS AN APPEAL OF A RADICULAR VERDICT OF A WOMAN I HAVE NEVER MET. >> IN ANOTHER OF HIS CASES, THE HUSH MONEY TRIAL, THE SENTENCING WILL BE POSTPONED UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTIONS. JUDGE WEIMER JOHN -- JUAN MERCHAND SAID IT WAS SUPPORTED TO HAVE A SENTENCING FREE OF DISTRACTIONS. POLLS SUGGESTED A TIGHT RACE WITH A SLIGHT ADVANTAGE TO KAMALA HARRIS. THE TUESDAY DEBATE IS KEY FOR BOTH CANDIDATES. JORGE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MOST RECENT EVENTS. WE ARE JOINED BY CARLOS AND FELIX DE BEDOUT. PARENTS MIGHT GET A CALL SAYING THERE'S BEEN A SHOOTING AT A SCHOOL. A 14-YEAR-OLD KILLED PEOPLE. DOES THIS CHANGE ANYTHING? >> UNFORTUNATELY, NO. I THINK THE COUNTRY IS IN A SIZED -- ANESTHESIZED. >> GUN CONTROL WAS LOWER IN THE CAMPAIGN. IT DOES NOT REACH THE TOP THREE. JD VANCE SAID THESE WERE -- THAT SHOOTINGS WERE A FACT OF LIFE. THE KAMALA HARRIS CAMPAIGN ATTACKED HIM FOR THAT. I THINK THE TOPIC WILL BECOME MORE IMPORTANT BUT IT WILL NOT BE A TOP TOPIC. >> I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THING TO TALK ABOUT. IT IS NOT THE FIRST OR LAST SHOOTING. IT IS A 14-YEAR-OLD BOY. THERE IS A HISTORY OF THIS. POLICE HAD INVESTIGATED AND HIS FATHER IS RESPONSIBLE, SO THERE ARE MANY TOPICS HERE AND TO HELP GUN CONTROL AND SCHOOL SAFETY. EVEN IF WE ARE NOT TALKING IMMEDIATELY ABOUT THIS, IT IS A TOPIC THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN ON BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO TEACHERS AND IT WILL NOT BE THE LAST TIME. >> AND THE FATHER IS ALSO FACING CHARGES. >> UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE TO AGREE. SINCE SANDY HOOK, I HAVE LEARNED IN UNITED STATES NOTHING WILL BE DONE ABOUT THIS TOPIC. I THOUGHT THE SANDY HOOK TOPIC WOULD CHANGE THE MAP AND HERE WE ARE, YEAR AFTER YEAR, REPEATING THIS. THE UNITED STATES IS THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WHERE THIS HAPPENS AT THIS FREQUENCY. THERE ARE SOME SCHOOL SHOOTINGS AND OTHER PLACES, BUT NO COUNTRY IN THE WORLD HAS THESE STATISTICS. I DO NOT THINK ANYTHING WILL HAPPEN. THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE IN 2016 AND 2020 BUT I DO NOT THINK ANYTHING WILL CHANGE. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE DEBATE. TUESDAY, ABC NEWS WILL BROADCAST THE DEBATE. WE WILL ALSO BROADCAST IT IN SPANISH. IS THE ELECTION SO CLOSE THAT THIS COULD BE A CRUCIAL EVENT? >> YES. I DO NOT KNOW IF A SURPRISE COMES OUT. WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT KAMALA CARES IS GOING TO COME OUT. WE HAVE NOT SEEN HER IN A DEBATE SINCE I DO NOT KNOW HOW LONG. >> SINCE THE DEMOCRATIC DEBATES IN THE PREVIOUS ELECTION. >> DONALD TRUMP IS BECOMING THE FIRST PERSON IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES TO PARTICIPATE IN SEVEN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES. >> SO HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING. >> HE KNOWS THE TERRAIN. PEOPLE KNOW HIM. TRUMP HAS A VOTING BASE OF 45%. DOES NOT MATTER WHAT HE SAYS OR DOES. >> KAMALA HARRIS HAS A LOT TO LOSE. HE HAS NOT GIVEN A LOT OF INTERVIEWS. >> HE GAVE ONE FOR UNIVISION. >> WE KNOW WHAT A DEBATE CAN DO TO A CANDIDATE. WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED TO PRESIDENT BIDEN. THAT WAS THE MOMENT WHERE WE REACHED A TURNING POINT, SO NOW SHE IS COMING HERE AND SHE HAS TO SPEAK. SHE HAS TO FOLLOW A LOT OF RULES. >> BUT SHE IS ALSO A PROSECUTOR. >> BOTH THESE CANDIDATES ARE SPEAKING TO THE SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE, THE UNDECIDED VOTERS. THE INTERESTING THING IS SHE HAS MADE ECONOMIC PROPOSALS THAT ARE MORE DETAILED. SHE HAS TALKED ABOUT TAX BREAKS FOR NEW BUSINESSES. SHE WANTS TO INCREASE THE CAPITAL GAINS TAXES, NOT AS MUCH AS BIDEN WANTED TO, BUT I THINK THESE ARE THINGS THAT PEOPLE WHO MIGHT HAVE THEIR DOUBTS -- SHE IS TALKING TO THE SAME GROUP WITH DIFFERENT PRESENTATIONS. >> TO THE POINT OF HER BEING A PROSECUTOR, THE CANDIDATES CANNOT ASK EACH OTHER QUESTIONS. WHAT DOES A PROSECUTOR DO? THEY ASK QUESTIONS. >> THEY CAN DO IT DURING THEIR OWN TIME. >> THE RULE IS TWO MINUTES TO RESPOND TO A QUESTION. TWO MINUTES FOR A REBUTTAL AND ONE MINUTE IF THEY NEED TO CLEAR THINGS UP. BUT IT IS SPECIFIED IN THOSE RULES THAT THEY CANNOT QUESTION EACH OTHER. HOW IS SHE GOING TO HANDLE THAT? WE WILL SEE. >> THEY CANNOT DO WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW. >> GENERALLY THERE'S AN EXPECTATION WHEN IT COMES TO DEBATES, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CAMPAIGN AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON TRUMP LOST THE DEBATES AND WON THE ELECTION. IN HIS MOMENT, OBAMA HAD A TERRIBLE DEBATE WITH ROMNEY AND WON THE ELECTIONS. I THINK SOMETIMES THE IMPORTANCE OF A DEBATE CAN BE OVERESTIMATED. CIRCUMSTANCES ARE DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED. >> THE JUDGE HAS DECIDED THAT TROUBLE NOT BE SENTENCED UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTIONS. >> HE IS GOING TO CONSIDER THE PETITION TO ANNUL THE CASE, PART OF A COMMENTARY HE GAVE TODAY. >> BECAUSE OF THE IMMUNITY TOPIC. >> YES, THE SUPREME COURT IMMUNITY DECISION. IF IT MAKES A DECISION, IT IS THOUGHT THERE WILL BE INTERFERENCE. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY LINE IS THIS IS A WITCHHUNT AND NOT A VALID CASE. >> THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF NEW YORK SAID IF IT WERE IN HIS HANDS HE WOULD HAVE HAD THE SENTENCING HAPPEN SOONER. I THINK HE IS DOING THE RIGHT THING WAITING UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION. >> THE ELECTIONS ARE ON NOVEMBER 5 AND THE SENTENCING WAS SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 18, EIGHT DAYS AFTER THE DEBATE. NOW WE ARE TOLD NOVEMBER 26 WE WILL HAVE THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION. >> HAVING MADE THAT DECISION, IT CAN BE INTERPRETED POLITICALLY. >> THERE IS ALSO A DECISION IF HE SENDS THEM TO PRISON OR NOT. IF HE MAKES A DECISION NOW, IT WILL HAVE HUGE APPLICATIONS. IF TRUMP WINS THE PRESIDENCY, HE CANNOT BE PUT IN PRISON. >> WHATEVER HE SAYS, HIS BASE WILL CONTINUE VOTING FOR HIM. >> ARE CANDIDATES COURTING LATINOS ENOUGH? A RECENT POLL SAYS THEY CAME AT KAREN'S HAS 59% OF THE LATINO VOTE AND TRUMP 32% OF THE VOTE. KAMALA IS GETTING MORE VOTES THAN BIDEN WAS GETTING. >> I SIGNED UP FOR ALL OF THE MAILING LISTS FROM BOTH CANDIDATES. I RECEIVED TWO EMAILS IN SPANISH EVERY DAY FROM THE KAMALA HARRIS CAMPAIGN. I GET MESSAGES FROM THE TRUMP-PENCE CAMPAIGN, BUT THEY ARE ALL IN ENGLISH. >> THE ELECTIONS IN THESE STATES -- >> ARIZONA IS IN THERE. >> WE HAVE TO SEE WHERE LATINOS ARE A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE VOTERS. THAT IS ARIZONA AND NEVADA. IN THE END, IT MIGHT BE DEFINED BY PENNSYLVANIA. >> PENNSYLVANIA. >> THAT IS WHERE THE DEBATE IS. >> THESE SEVEN STATES COULD BE DECISIVE IN DETERMINING WHO WILL BE PRESIDENT. >> IT IS SO CLOSE THAT WE COULD SEE A TIE IN NEBRASKA AND MAINE. >> >> NOW, VENEZUELA ONE MONTH AFTER THE ELECTION. NICOLAS MADURO IS STILL IN POWER. >> THIS MORNING, AND MOODY GONZALEZ -- EDMUNDO GONZALEZ LEFT VENEZUELA TO BE EXILED IN SPAIN AFTER THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEK A VENEZUELAN COURT ORDER AN ARREST WARRANT, ACKNOWLEDGED BY SEVERAL COUNTRIES AS THE TRUE WINNER OF THE ELECTIONS. BEFORE HE LEFT, I SPOKE WITH MARIA KARINA MASATO -- MARIA CORINA MACHADO. I KNOW YOU ARE IN A DIFFICULT SITUATION. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I REMEMBER THE LAST TIME WE TALKED WAS IN JULY. YOU TOLD ME THE ONLY WAY THAT MADURO CAN REMAIN IS WITH THE MONUMENTAL FRAUD. WE ARE PREPARED FOR EVERY SCENARIO. THIS NEW SCENARIO IMPLIES THAT GONZALEZ HAS AN ARREST WARRANT. YOU ARE ALSO FACING HARASSMENT. WHAT IS NEXT? >> I REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION BEFORE THE ELECTIONS. A LOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT THINK THAT ELECTION WOULD HAPPEN AND THAT IF IT HAPPENED HE WOULD COMMIT FRAUD AND IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE WHAT HAPPENED. THE REGIME WAS SURPRISED BY A HIGH RATE OF VOTER TURNOUT. AND ALMOST 70% OF VOTERS VOTED FOR EDMUNDO GONZALEZ. WITHIN 24 HOURS, WE HAD VOTE TALLY SHEETS IN OUR HANDS, DIGITIZED, PUBLISHED ONLINE THAT THE ENTIRE WORLD COULD SEE. >> THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WITH OTHER FRAUDS. >> TOTALLY. THERE HAVE BEEN MANY ELECTIONS, ALL OF THEM WITH SOME DEGREE OF FRAUD, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED OUR VICTORY. MADURO HAS BEEN COMPLETELY EXPOSED. HE HAS NO LEGITIMACY. NO DEMOCRACY IN THE WORLD HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THIS FRAUD. WE ARE IN AN UNPRECEDENTED SITUATION. NEVER HAS THE REGIME BEEN AS THREATENED. >> BUT MADURO CONTINUES IN POWER. WHAT HAPPENS THE PRESIDENT-ELECT IS ARRESTED? >> OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A CLEAR REDLINE. THEY HAVE ALREADY CROSSED IT WITH THE ARREST WARRANT. THIS SHOWS THE REGIME IS NOT STRONG. ALL MADURO HAS LEFT HIS REPRESSION AND FEAR. HE HAS BECOME ENTRENCHED WITH A GROUP OF HIGH-RANKING MILITARY OFFICIALS. THE RANK-AND-FILE MILITARY MEMBERS ARE NOT WITH HIM. THEY KNOW THAT EDMUNDO GONZALEZ IS THE PRESIDENT-ELECT. >> BUT WE ARE SEEING 2500 PEOPLE DETAINED IN MANY PEOPLE TORTURED. THERE IS A REIGN OF TERROR AND NO IMPORTANT MILITARY MEMBER HAS TURNED AGAINST MADURO. >> MADURO FEELS HE CAN ARREST 500 MORE PEOPLE AND IT WILL COME AT NO COST TO HIM. THAT IS WHAT HE FEELS. THAT IS NOT TRUE. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY TAKE ACTION AND DO SO FIRMLY. THIS HAS TO HAVE CONSEQUENCES. THE COST OF REMAINING IN POWER NEEDS TO GO UP SO MADURO UNDERSTANDS THAT HIS BEST OPTION IS TO HAVE A NEGOTIATION FOR AN ORDERLY TRANSITION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. >> IF MADURO WANTS TO STAY IN POWER, HE IS DOING IT WITH THE ARMY AND REPRESSION. WHAT CAN BE DONE FROM THE OUTSIDE? >> A LOT. SO FAR, THERE HAVE BEEN IMPORTANT PROTESTS AND OF COURSE NOT ACKNOWLEDGING MADURO'S VICTORY BUT ACKNOWLEDGING EDMUNDO GONZALEZ IS IMPORTANT. LIKE I SAID, THE COST OF THE REPRESSION NEEDS TO GO UP. HE NEEDS TO REALIZE, AND THOSE IN HIS INNER CIRCLE NEED TO KNOW, THAT THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES. THEY NEED TO REDUCE REPRESSION. WE NEED TO ACT WITH RESPONSE ABILITY. LIKE YOU SAID, THEY HAVE STARTED A REIGN OF TERROR. >> IS THE DICTATOR COMPLETELY ENTRENCHED? HE HAS BECOME RADICALIZED, BUT IS IT NECESSARY TO NEGOTIATE WITH HIM? THE POLITICAL COST OF HIS EXIT IS ENORMOUS. >> THE POLITICAL COST OF HIS REMAINING IS GREATER FOR HIM AND THE ENTIRE REGION. IF MADURO EXTENDS THIS AND PROLONGS THIS, WE COULD BE SEEING 5 MILLION VENEZUELANS LEAVING THE COUNTRY. THAT IS A TRAGEDY. MANY OF THESE VENEZUELANS WILL ARRIVE AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER OF THE UNITED STATES. WE SEE HOW HE -- HOW HIS RELATIONS ARE WITH PUTIN AND SYRIA. THIS SHOULD BE A PRIORITY IN SECURITY FOR THE HEMISPHERE. THIS IS THE MOMENT TO TAKE ACTION AND COORDINATE AMONG DIFFERENT SECTORS. >> WE ARE NOT SAYING WHERE YOU ARE, BUT ARE YOU IN DANGER OF BEING ARRESTED? HAVE YOU CONSIDERED LEAVING THE COUNTRY? WHAT IS NEXT? YOU SAID YOU ARE WILLING TO SEE THIS THROUGH TO THE END. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? >> IT MEANS TO CONTINUE ON THIS PATH AS WE HAVE DONE SO FAR. I HAVE BEEN VERY FRANK WITH THE VENEZUELANS WHEN I HAVE SAID THE PATH IS DIFFICULT. I THINK WE ARE FACING DANGEROUS MOMENTS. OUR FREEDOM IS NOT ONLY AT RISK BUT SO ARE OUR LIVES. WE HAVE A COMMITMENT TO THE VENEZUELANS. I TRUST IN VENEZUELA AND I KNOW VENEZUELA WILL BE FREE. HOW MANY DAYS REMAIN? WE DO NOT KNOW, BUT WE WILL ACCOMPLISH THIS BECAUSE EVERY DAY WE HAVE MORE STRENGTH AND SUPPORT. >> I WILL END WITH THIS. I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU KNOW HOW MUCH ADMIRATION YOU HAVE GENERATED OUTSIDE OF VENEZUELA. YOU HAVE BEEN REFERRED TO AS THE IRON LADY. PEOPLE HAVE SUGGESTED YOU RECEIVE A NOBEL PEACE PRIZE. DO YOU FEEL THIS? >> I FEEL VERY PROUD TO BE A PART OF THIS SOCIAL MOVEMENT, TO BE A VENEZUELAN. THE SIGNAL TRIP BELONGS TO THE MILLIONS OF VENEZUELANS INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY. WE HAVE ESTABLISHED A NEW STANDARD FOR THE WORLD. AND WE HAVE TURNED VENEZUELA INTO A GLOBAL CAUSE. NOW MORE THAN EVER, WE NEED YOU. I KNOW WE ARE NOT ALONE. >>>> WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS AN EXCLUSIVE FROM UNIVISION INVESTIGA AND THE PORTAL INSIGHT CRIME. IT IS A VIDEO WERE SUPPOSED DRUG TRAFFICKERS REVEAL HUMANS TO POLITICIANS OR THE INTERVIEWS -- IMAGES CENTER ON CARLOS ZELAYA, BROTHER-IN-LAW OF FOR -- OF CURRENT PRESIDENT XIOMARA C ASTRO. GERARDO REYES EXPLAINS. >> WE SHARE THE OTHER HALF. >> HE IS DISTRIBUTING MONEY THAT WAS PROMISED TO HIM IN A MEETING IN 2013 IN SAN PEDRO IN HONDURAS. THIS IS CARLOS ZELAYA, THE BROTHER OF FORMER HUNTER AND PRESIDENT MEL'S ALLY -- MEL ZELAYA, KNOWN AS THE COMMANDER. THE CONVERSATION TOOK PLACE AT THE END OF THE CAMPAIGN. THE CANDIDATE FOR THAT PARTY WAS XIOMARA CASTRO, THE WIFE OF MEL ZAELAYA AND CURRENT PRESIDENT OF HONDURAS. DENNIS RIVERA WAS IN CHARGE OF THE NEGOTIATION. HE LATER AGREED TO COOPERATE WITH THE DEA. >> IT IS $650,000. >> CARLOS ZELAYA DOES NOT HIDE HIS DESIRE TO ESTABLISH THE EXCHANGE. >> WE ARE GOING TO TALK TO THE MAN AND GIVE THAT TO HIM. >> ZELAYA JOKES ABOUT THE PERSON WHO WILL GIVE THE MONEY. ZELAYA QUIT ON SATURDAY. AS -- QUIT HIS POSITION AS A CONGRESSPERSON. HE ADMITTED BEING AT THE MEETING. HE ADMITTED THE EXISTENCE OF THE VIDEO BUT DENIED RECEIVING MONEY. >> THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT MONEY THEY WANTED TO GIVE THE CAMPAIGN. AND THEY SAID SOMEONE IS WANT TO GIVE $500,000. SO WHAT ELSE IS GOING TO GIVE $150,000. THAT IS IT. IT WAS NO MONEY EXCHANGED. THERE WAS NEVER MONEY EXCHANGED, NOT FOR ME. >> ZELAYA KNOWLEDGES HE GOT HIS BROTHER, THE FORMER PRESIDENT, INVOLVED. >> I WANT TO APOLOGIZE. BECAUSE I MENTION HIS NAME. >> THEY DRUG TRAFFICKERS AGREED ON THE AMOUNT. THE VIDEO WAS RECORDED BY DENNIS. >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT $700,000. ACCORDING TO INSIGHT CRIME, HE GAVE THIS VIDEO TO THE DEA. THE VIDEO WAS RECORDED BEFORE THE RIVERA BROTHERS REACHED AN AGREEMENT WITH THE DEA AND THEY SURRENDERED IN THIS VIDEO TO AMERICAN AUTHORITIES. IN THE MEETING, THE DRUG TRAFFICKERS OR MEMBERED OTHER PAYMENT SCHEMES. CARLOS LUGO, WHO WAS EXTRADITED TO THE UNITED STATES, SAID WE GAVE HIM 200,000. HECTOR EMILIO FERNANDEZ ROSA, SENTENCED IN 2019 TO LIFE IN PRISON IN FOR DRUG TRAFFICKING, MENTIONED A MEETING WITH FORMER PRESIDENT CELAYA. >> OF COURSE. >> GERARDO REYES JOINS US ALONG WITH INDEPENDENT JOURNALIST DAVID ADAMS. WHAT >> DOES THIS UNCOVER? FOR A LONG TIME, THERE HAVE BEEN RUMORS THAT THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT AND CURRENT MEMBERS OF THE ADMINISTRATION HAD LINKS TO DRUG TRAFFICKING AND DRUG TRAFFICKERS, BUT THERE WAS NO CONCRETE EVIDENCE. NOW, WITH THIS VIDEO, WE HAVE THE EVIDENCE IN THE CLEAREST POSSIBLE WAY. IT IS A VIDEO THAT WAS GIVEN A DECADE AGO, WHERE DRUG TRAFFICKERS MEET IN PERSON WITH CARLOS ZELAYA, RATHER A FORMER PRESIDENT MEL ZELAYA -- BROTHER OF FORMER PRESIDENT MEL ZELAYA AND THE HUSBAND OF THE CURRENT PRESIDENT, XIOMARA CASTRO. >> IT IS AN IMPORTANT THING WHEN THE GOVERNMENT OF HONDURAS DECIDED TO SUSPEND EXTRADITION TREATY. THE MINISTRATION NEW THAT REPORTERS AND COLLEAGUES WERE TRYING TO OBTAIN MORE INFORMATION AND THEY DECIDED TO CANCEL THIS. THE QUESTION IS, DOES THIS VIDEO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT IMPORTANT DECISION MADE BY THE GOVERNMENT OF HONDURAS TO SUSPEND THEIR EXTRADITION TREATY? >> WHAT DOES THIS SAY ABOUT CORRUPTION IN HONDURAS? WHAT CAN BE DONE? WHAT ARE THE PROPOSALS TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN? >> THE THING ABOUT THIS VIDEO IS THAT IN UNITED STATES WE HAVE SEEN SEVERAL CASES OF CORRUPTION WITH THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION, THE MINISTRATION OF HERNANDEZ, WHO ENDED UP IN PRISON, SENTENCED TO 45 YEARS. SO THE NATIONAL PARTY IS INVOLVED IN DRUG TRAFFICKING. THE CURRENT PARTY IN POWER IS ALSO INVOLVED IN DRUG TRAFFICKING, SO FOR HONDURANS, WHO ARE THEY GOING TO VOTE FOR NOW? WHAT MANY PEOPLE WANT IS A DEEP INVESTIGATION AND THAT PROBABLY REQUIRES AN INTERNATIONAL MECHANISM, AS HAS BEEN PROPOSED BY THE UNITED NATIONS, A COMMISSION TO INVESTIGATE THE CORRUPTION AND IMPUNITY. PREVIOUSLY, THERE HAD BEEN A MECHANISM, BUT IT WAS ABANDONED BY THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION OF HONDURAS. >> WITH BOTH CELAYA BROTHERS INVOLVED AND WITH THE CURRENT PRESIDENT, SHE SAYS THIS IS AN ATTEMPTED COUP TO GET HER OUT OF POWER. >> THEN WE HAVE TO ASK WHY HER BROTHER-IN-LAW CAME OUT AND ACCEPTED WHAT HAPPENED. HE SAID THERE WAS AN OFFER AND HE MET WITH THEM AND THAT HE WAS INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHEN TO QUIT WHERE, AND HOW HE WOULD RECEIVE THE MONEY, AS CAN BE SEEN IN THE VIDEO. THIS IS INTERESTING BECAUSE WHAT CARLOS ZELAYA SAID AS HE MIGHT HAVE SAID THINGS BUT HE DID NOT RECEIVE MONEY. >> HE SAYS HE HIMSELF DID NOT RECEIVE IT, BUT HE IS VERY CONFIDENT SURROUNDED BY DRUG TRAFFICKERS. IT SHOWS HE HAS NO SCRUPLES. IF ANYTHING MY HE IS ANXIOUS TO FINALIZE WHEN AND HOW HE WILL RECEIVE THE MONEY. >> WHO ARE IN THE CONVERSATION WITH HIM? >> FOUR OR FIVE DRUG TRAFFICKERS WHO HAVE BEEN SENTENCED IN UNITED STATES AS WELL >> WHAT DID YOU DO? >> I DO NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. I THINK OF SOMETHING I SAY. I HAVE NO FILTER. I CANNOT TELL A LIE. >> IS IT TRUE YOU RECEIVE MONEY FOR THE CAMPAIGN FROM THE GOVERNORS? >> I DID RECEIVE MONEY, NOT JUST FROM GOVERNORS. >> THIS IS A SCENE FROM THE NEW FILM EL CANDIDATO HONESTO STARRING MEXICAN COMIC ACTOR ADRIÁN URIBE. A FEW WEEKS BEFORE THE ELECTION IN THE UNITED STATES, WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A PERFECT MOMENT TO INVITE ADRIAN TO TALK ABOUT POLITICS, THE FILM, AND THE TRUTH. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. >> THIS IS THE FIRST OF 10 FILMS I HAVE MADE THAT ACTUALLY PREMIERES IN UNITED STATES. I THINK THAT THIS WILL MAKE SENSE NOT JUST TO MEXICANS BUT TO LATINOS BECAUSE THIS FILM -- WHEN I WAS ASKED TO PLAY CANDIDATE WHO CANNOT LIE, I THOUGHT THIS IS SCIENCE FICTION. WHAT IS THIS ABOUT? I WAS SINGING ABOUT -- THINKING ABOUT THE LAST TIME WE TALK TO YOU. THERE WAS A VIDEO WE SUGGESTED YOU WERE GOING TO LEAVE ACTING BEHIND TO GO INTO POLITICS AND A LOT OF US BELIEVE IT. >> I WAS TRENDING. YOU INTERVIEWED ME. I WAS INTERVIEWED IN NEWSPAPERS. IT WAS A TRENDING TOPIC. IT WAS PART OF A STRATEGY. >> IT WAS WELL THOUGHT OUT. >> IT WAS, AND I BEGAN TO SEE A LOT OF MESSAGES AND SUPPORT AND OTHER SAYING DO NOT DO IT, STAY IN YOUR LANE, AND I REALIZED HOW POLARIZED PEOPLE ARE REGARDING THIS TOPIC. >> THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT YOUR CHARACTER'S IS A POLITICIAN WHO CANNOT LIE AND WE ARE USED TO POLITICIANS WHO DO LIVE. I JUST HEARD THE SPEECH GIVEN BY LÓPEZ OBRADOR COMPARING MEXICO TO DENMARK OR DONALD TRUMP INSISTING HE WON THE 2020 ELECTIONS OR NICOLAS MADURO SAYING THAT CHRISTMAS IS BEING MOVED FROM DECEMBER TO OCTOBER. >> I SAW THAT. >> WHO DID YOU LEARN FROM? >> FROM EVERYONE. >> YOU TOOK EVERY POLITICIAN INTO A BLENDER AND THAT LED TO MY CANDIDATE CUT TO MY CHARACTER. HE IS FROM VERACRUZ. THERE ARE GOVERNORS THERE WHO HAVE SAID I HAVE NOT STOLEN ANYTHING AND CUT TO THE BEING EXILED, SO I HAD A LOT OF THINGS TO LOOK AT TO STUDY. I WOULD SEE INTERVIEWS AND I WOULD BELIEVE THEM. I WOULD THINK THEY ARE SAYING THE TRUTH. CUT TO THEM BEING CAUGHT. IT WAS NOT TRUE. SO I LOVE THE PREMISE OF THE FILM, OF A CANDIDATE WHO, BECAUSE HIS GRANDMOTHER DIES AND HE IS CURSED, HE CANNOT SAY ANYTHING BUT THE TRUTH DURING A CAMPAIGN. I THINK THAT IS WHY THE FILM WAS HAVING SO MUCH SUCCESS. IT IS A UTOPIA. IT IS WHAT WE WANT. WE WANT POLITICIANS TO TELL US THE TRUTH. >> IN YOUR CAREER, YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE VERY HONEST. HOW DO YOU HANDLE POLITICAL ASPECTS? FOR EXAMPLE, I AM NOT GOING TO ASK YOU SPECIFICS BUT I'M SURE YOU HAVE OPINIONS ABOUT LÓPEZ OBRADOR AND THE OPPOSITION IN MEXICO. HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT? >> I HAVE TRIED TO REMAIN CLEAR OF THAT. IT IS A CATHARSIS FOR ME, THIS FILM. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE WANTED TO GIVE AN OPINION BUT THEN I THINK >>? >>YOU STOP YOURSELF. >> I STOP MYSELF AND I THINK I AM GOING TO DIVIDE MY AUDIENCE. I WILL JUST KEEP IT TO MYSELF. >> SO YOU ARE NOT WHEN TO GIVE AN OPINION ON LÓPEZ OBRADOR OR SHEINBAUM. >> OBVIOUSLY I HAVE AN OPINION, BUT I TRY TO KEEP IT TO MYSELF. THAT IS WHY THIS FILM IS CATHARTIC. IT IS A WAY OF GETTING ALL OF THAT OUT. THIS IS ULTIMATELY A CRITICISM OF THE ENTIRE POLITICAL CLASS. IMAGINE IF THEY WERE HONEST. THERE'S A SCENE IN THE FILM WHERE I LOOK AT MYSELF IN THE MIRROR AND I SAY, YOU CRITICIZED CORRUPT POLITICIANS FOR A LONG TIME AND YOU BECAME ONE. >> BEFORE YOU SEND A TWEET, WHAT DO YOU DO? DO YOU BREATHE IN? >> I TAKE A BREATH. >> IS THERE A 10 SECOND RULE? I THINK THAT IS VERY VALID, THAT BEFORE YOU SEND A TWEET YOU SHOULD TAKE 10 SECONDS BEFORE DOING IT OR MAYBE YOU DO NOT PUBLISH IT AT ALL. >> MAYBE YOU DO NOT POST IT. IT HAS HELPED ME TO TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND SAY, MAYBE I WILL KEEP THIS TO MYSELF. BECAUSE IN THE END PEOPLE GOING TO MOVIES, THEY ARE THERE AND WE ARE GOING TO DIVIDE THEM AND WHAT I WANT TO DO IS ENTERTAIN PEOPLE. AND WHAT A BLESSING AS AN ACTOR TO HAVE THIS MOVIE AND STORY IN YOUR HANDS. AT THE END OF THE FILM, THERE IS A GREAT SPEECH WHERE IT WAS NOT MY CHARACTER ANYMORE. IT WAS PART OF WHO I AM, PART OF THIS MEXICAN WHO WANTS A BETTER MEXICO. >> BUT YOU ARE DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO POLITICS. >> DEFINITELY NOT. I LIKE TO FULFILL MY PROMISES. I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO GO TO THE MOVIE THEATER. THIS FILM OPENS THIS FRIDAY. >> CONGRATULATIONS. YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT >> THE NUMBERS TOMORROW. I HOPE THEY WILL BE POSITIVE. I HOPE PEOPLE WILL SEE THE FILM. IT IS EL CANDIDATO HONESTO. ♪ JORGE: THIS IS A VERY SPECIAL MOMENT FOR OUR COLLEAGUE, MARIA ANTONIETA COLLINS. SHE IS CELEBRATING 50 YEARS AS A JOURNALIST. RECENTLY AT HER HOME, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO HER ABOUT THE LESSONS SHE HAS LEARNED THROUGHOUT THESE YEARS. ARE YOU READY? >> I AM VERY READY. >> I FEEL LIKE YOU ARE ALWAYS READY. THAT IS ONE OF YOUR DEFINING TRAITS. YOUR DOOZY HAS HIM. I WONDER, WHERE YOU A HAPPY CHILD? MARIA: I HAD A DIFFICULT CHILDHOOD. I HAD A DIFFICULT ADOLESCENCE. I READ A LOT. I READ. I STUDIED HISTORY. >> IS YOUR WORD YOUR WEAPON? >> I ASKED GOD THAT HE NEVER TAKE AWAY MY MEMORY. I THINK MY MEMORY IS THE BEST THING I HAVE. >> MEMORY HELPED HER LEAVE VERACRUZ. SHE STUDIED LAW IN THE MEXICAN CAPITAL AND THEN THE DOORS TO TELEVISION WERE OPENED TO HER OR SHE OPENED THE DOORS HERSELF. >> HOW DO YOU GO FROM NOT HAVING EXPERIENCE IN TELEVISION TO BEING IN THE MOST IMPORTANT NEWS PROGRAM IN MEXICO? >> I/O THAT TO ONE PERSON, FELIX CORTEZ. SHE SAID, I WANT TO BE A REPORTER. WITHOUT HAVING ANY EXPERIENCE, FELIX CORTEZ CAMARILLO TRUST HER TO BE A REPORTER. THAT IS WHY -- IMPLIED KNOWING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EVERYTHING. >> WHY DID YOU LEAVE MEXICO? >> BECAUSE I WAS SENT OUT AND THEY HAD A CORRESPONDENT IN SAN DIEGO, IN JULY OF 1979, AND THEY WANTED ME IN SAN DIEGO OR LOS ANGELES. >> AND YOU WERE ABLE TO LEAVE YOUR LIFE BEHIND SO QUICKLY? >> FROM THE BORDER MARIA ANTONIETA COLLINS,. JORGE: YOU ARE ALWAYS VERY WELL PREPARED. YOU ALWAYS HAVE YOUR CARDS. >> I DRIVE PRODUCERS CRAZY. >> SOMETIMES YOU HAVE 70 TO 80 CARDS. I FEEL LIKE YOU >> DO NOT ALWAYS NEED THEM. THE PROBLEM IS MY AGE. I HAVE TO WRITE EVERYTHING DOWN. >> IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AGE, HOW OLD ARE YOU? MARIA: 72 YEARS OLD. JORGE: YOU GOT MORE TIME BEHIND YOU THAN AHEAD OF YOU. >> I DO NOT WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT. >> YOU'RE GOING TO BE A JOURNALIST UNTIL THE END. ONE THING YOU TALK ABOUT IS BECOMING AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. WHERE ARE YOU FROM? >> I AM FROM THIS COUNTRY. I AM AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. I TRAVEL WITH AN AMERICAN PASSPORT. >> WHEN MEXICANS HEAR WHAT YOU SAID, THEY ARE GOING TO SAY SHE >> IS FORGETTING MEXICO. >>NOW. MEXICO IS IN MY BLOOD. BUT THE COUNTRY THAT GAVE ME A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND ALLOWS A 72-YEAR-OLD WOMAN -- IN MEXICO, I WOULD NOT HAVE ANY OPTIONS, BUT HERE I CAN STILL BE ON TV EVEN THE NEWS. >> THE UNITED STATES HAS GIVEN YOU OPPORTUNITIES THAT MEXICO DID NOT GIVE YOU AND CANNOT GIVE YOU. MARIA: EXACTLY. JORGE: SHE IS A WOMAN OF IMMENSE FAITH. SHE IS THE SPANISH-LANGUAGE JOURNALIST WITH THE MOST EXPERIENCE REPORTING ON THE VATICAN. >> YOU ONCE MET MOTHER TERESA. MARIA: YES. THIS WAS 1993. SHE SAID, EVERY TIME I CAME ACROSS AN INJURED ANIMAL THAT I SHOULD WELCOME THEM IN BECAUSE IT COULD BE AN ANGEL. >> SO THESE ARE YOUR COMPANIONS? >> THEY KNOW MORE ABOUT ME THAN ANYONE ELSE. I THINK WHAT SHE WAS SAYING AS THESE ARE ANGELIC BEINGS. THEY COME TO MY HOUSE FOR A REASON. >> WE ARE CELEBRATING OUR 50 YEARS. >> INCREDIBLE. >> WHEN I BEGAN IN SEPTEMBER 1974, I NEVER IMAGINED HOW MUCH TIME WOULD PASS. THIS HAS BEEN A 50 YEAR LONG ADVENTURE. THEY HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL YEARS. EVERY NEW DAY, I GIVE THANKS TO GOD THAT I'M ABLE TO CONTINUE DOING WHAT I LOVE SO MUCH AT THIS AGE. JORGE: CONGRATULATIONS. IT IS AN HONOR TO BE YOUR FRIEND. THERE'S A SPECIAL TONIGHT AT 10:00 P.M., 9:00 CENTRAL ON UNIVISION. BEFORE WE LEAVE, REMEMBER YOU CAN HEAR OUR PODCAST EVERY WEEK AT UFORIAONDEMAND.COM. 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