Are the Indiana Fever WNBA Contenders?

what up y'all um so think about it for a second here this is pretty crazy right like if you remember when this whole thing started and and I started covering the WNBA and and Caitlyn Clark and the Indiana Fever um and if you recall early in the process I wondered if fans would still be interested because I was like oh no you know like the the fever looked like trash at the beginning of the year they had the first pick in the draft it was expected they'd be bad they go one and eight to start the season um they had that monstrous schedule and now look where we are now look where we are yesterday's price ain't today's price right where the fever are rolling and and I honestly think I think that yesterday may have been the greatest day in WNBA history no joke like yesterday may have been the greatest day in WNBA history for this in the sense that I saw Caitlyn Clark fans praising Angel Reese all over the place last night after what Reese did the 20 rebound performance 19 points 20 boards she hit some face up jumpers and I bring that up because I think it's important in the sense of we've finally drawn that distinction you know I think comparing Reese to Clark is only damaging Angel Reese or was only damaging Angel Reese and the more of the separation between the two the more angel can shine on her own and I think you saw that I think you saw that last night where people are no longer worried about this being a rookie of the year debate right because you are being disingenuous at this point if you're arguing r at the year debate um if you're a media organization pushing it you're doing it for clicks if you're a person pushing pushing it you're doing it to be a hater or or you know different there's no there's no debate it's over it's done with it's it's goodbye you know cyanara all those things and that will allow Angel to shine on her own because when the Rookie of the Year thing was going on it put unfair standards on her to be compared to Caitlyn and led to people scrutinizing the weaknesses in Angel's game and Angel can take a leap simply by making bunnies Barbie makes bunnies around the rim all of a sudden her points per game go up and I think her ceiling is very high as a result of that you saw her try to add the face up game um and and is working on that so I think her ceiling is very high and I think you know she's gonna get there but in the mean time in the meantime Angel ree is you know not the same tier of player she is a tenacious rebounder a really good Defender um and the kind of player that that helps any team win and you saw her with the young girl last night she looked relaxed and she smiled but before that was the storm and the fever game and there was so much that went on in that game it was great I mean it was great not only did the fever smack the storm but Caitlyn had to tell him to stop crying stop crying think about where we came from the beginning of the Season where Caitlyn's fans were crying like our poor baby uh and now look at her she's the one talking the smack and and breaking the other team in a sense and I said she would come through that and she would emerge through that unscaved and it would make her better what happened to her at the beginning of the year and we've seen that we've seen that and all the stuff that happened with the storm was glorious the Skyler Diggins smith thing is glorious you see the same people the same ilk of people trying to push that as if we're in the same period we were early in the wnb all these jealous women are out together yeah Skyler was pissed right Caitlyn was gesturing to their bench but that's great sports stuff and we've seen the conversation shift almost entirely to basketball now rather than the garbage you know socio racial conversations that were happening around that really never had anything to do with this I mean the again as I said at the time there's always Nuance in any conversation and I'm always willing to explore and peel back the layers and talk about the things that come together to make something a story but the root of Clark's popularity was always basketball and she's showing that now and you know the the storm's coach is all upset and Skyler diin Smith is all upset and juwel Lloyd's all upset meanwhile Aaliyah Boston's hitting him with the bow bow bow and Kelsey Mitchell is going off and Caitlyn's going off and Lexi Hull's hitting those shots and Lexi Hull hitting those shots that is huge because the fever have missed that position all year they've missed the three and D Wing the three and D Wing who can play defense obviously and knock down the open shots and and Hull has had the hustle she's had the hustle thus far but she hadn't knocked down the shots now that she's knocking down the shots I honest to goodness believe the fever can beat anyone if she now I'm saying I I say it as if like one game means everything of course if she can consistently knock down the shots I think the fever can beat anyone because the fever already have three reliable scorers night in and night three reliable producers night in and night out you know Caitlin's going to give you at this point it feels like 20 points in ten assist um Kelsey's going to give you close to 20 points Aaliyah is going to give you 15 to 20 points close to 10 boards and Aaliyah is uh an extension of Caitlyn in the sense that she's also a really gifted passer and and really sees the floor well so if the person that's playing off of them if Lexi Hull is playing off of them in the corner is going to hit those catch and shoot opportunities I don't know how you guard them I don't know how you guard them they're just going to need to play passable defense and I think their their goal of Simply making the playoffs is a really conservative one given what we're seeing now because I think they're a legit threat and and I think Caitlyn's gonna make the MVP a real conversation by the end of the year too or she already starting to um but I think it's going to get even bigger because you know I know it's like everybody say it's Asia it's how dare you say anything else well I mean look at the numbers Caitlyn's putting up look at the numbers Clark is putting up if the the fever keep winning and they let's say they finished the season with a winning record after the way they started and she continues on the pace that she's on why can't she beat in the MVP conversation so certainly I think at worst finish second or third by then at worst but I think she's she's going to make it a real thing I mean she's been too good what did she do over her last three games I saw the the the numbers she she's had something ridiculous actually I think I took a screenshot of it hold on one second the last three games Caitlyn yeah 25 points 13 assists on 50% field goals and in July she average 20 points and 12 and a half assists so if she keeps that up she keeps that up how's she not in MVP conversations and I see a you know everybody always wants to wait and wait and why there's no need to wait why aren't the fever contenders now why not why isn't Caitlyn in the MVP conversation why not why not I mean other than like we have to wait for a period of time to pass just because versus the reality of the situation and the reality of the situation is is plain to see this is a dangerous team and she is one bad shut your mouth you know and so are her teammates too you know so is Aaliyah so is Kelsey Mitchell they they deserve I mean Kelsey Mitchell got hated on by some of the fans for whatever I mean she sees the basket first that's scores do but she's averaging like 27 points a game since they got back they got the three Bonafide Allstars if they can get something when you know anybody to spell Caitlyn Erica wheeler can give them a few minutes here and there and maybe they get Tim F benley back I mean really feels like they're darn close it really does so I don't know what are we waiting for why why we got to wait for what and I I am happy it's about basketball now too because that's that's been the biggest change I think is the people who are even going with the Skyler diin smith thing and trying to turn it into a thing I don't even think that's working for for them so that's good they're trying to you know squeeze the last bit of juice out of whatever the you know they hate her and yeah I mean juel was pissed after the game too didn't want to answer a question about Clark so what and the Skyler thing is great like you if you're a Caitlyn Clark fan you should love the fact that Skyler did that because it showed how much she's in their head and then Caitlyn's instigating look right was in front of the storm bench doing that she's instigating and then she's saying stop crying so it is what it is but yeah overall I thought that was just a tremendous day for the the WNBA from the the storm and and fever game to the fever looking the way they looked to everything that transpired with the storm and shambles to Caitlyn continuing to dominate to the aces you know having a a big game uh against the spark and there was some negativity from that game with what went on with Hami but still you know the kind of thing that is that's a kind of like sports discussion that would happen in a male sport were the fans out of line you know like that kind of thing um and then Diana terazzi and the the Mercury getting the best of the sky but Angel ree having a big performance and and like I said I think Clark fans starting to recognize Angel Ree and appreciate Angel ree because there's no longer this Force fed WNBA Rookie of the Year debate that was mostly a media creation it was mostly a media creation and a creation of people who didn't want to give Caitlyn Clark Credit and they almost used like Angel as like their Avatar right and then they had the double double streak and they got to put like plant their double doubles double doubles you know like I never heard double doubles talked about so much in my life ever ever all of a sudden the double double was the single most important thing that could happen didn't matter whether a team won or lost the game didn't matter if the person who got the double double hit a shot to get to the point threshold didn't matter if they stab haded to do it didn't matter as long as there was a double double as long as a double double transpired and occurred all was right with the world because the double double streak was what could be like you know was a a crutch it was a crutch to to use against K well you can't make Caitlyn Clark the Rookie of the Year look at the double doubles look at them oh the shiny double doubles over there and now all that stuff is you know kaput and and Angel is a star in her own right like I said a billion times because then you also get the Clark fans where like Angel doesn't move the needle like Caitlyn stop it okay yeah she doesn't nobody does but that doesn't mean she's not popular doesn't mean she don't have fans right I mean come on we see it saw that little girl following her around with a rich dad getting her Courtside every [Laughter] time but yeah I think um yesterday was a a a truly awesome day for the WNBA and we're truly seeing Caitlyn Clark come into her own where the conversations are about to get uncomfortable but they're all going to be basketball related you know it's not going to be that the other nonsense it's G to be like you can't say Caitlyn Clark's the MVP you can't say Caitlyn Clark's the best this or that or this whatever like it's gonna be that instead of whatever took place at the beginning of the year which is good to see definitely good to see um okay I'm going to get you guys comments here in a second real quick uh like And subscribe to the channel below please um check out women's fast break on SI the women's basketball website I'm running through Sports Illustrated and if you want to play fantasy football against me in the fall the link to that is below as of like an hour ago there are only three spots left so if you want to be in in it I suggest signing up now I suggest signing up now if you want to be a part of that cuz there are only a few spots left fantasy football women's fast break on SI the links to that are in the description the rest of the show is yours because I have said my piece let me get to the comments section we'll start with Kevin zwicker fever look legit he also says Reese is a fan of the fast count that's his wrestling Channel I went to Fanatics Fest um over the weekend with my son and I got to tell you wrestling took over at f adx Fest it took it over there were so many Yeet shirts there on Saturday I couldn't believe it um J Uso for those of you don't know but the the wrestling energy was just a whole different kind of energy they did this activation with wrestler entrance music where you know you pick which entrance music you want to come out to and you did your wrestler entrance and not only did everybody who did that have fun but everybody around it had fun like everybody in line was singing along or getting hyped or booing or cheering or throwing their ons up um whatever the the entrance music U occasion called for my son has been asking me to start a wrestling YouTube channel as well that might be become a side hobby down the line here uh AJ shriber any chances of conspiracy to give CC MVP and then let Angel have Rookie of the Year could anyone see that happening well that's stupid because there's no way you could be the MVP and not the Rookie of the Year that's that doesn't make any sense like how could you possibly be the MVP and not the rookie theer if you're the MVP you know remember that's not unprecedented for a rookie to win MVP either Candace Parker did she won Rookie of the Year and MVP I think it's going to be really hard for Caitlyn to win MVP that like Caitlyn would have to overwhelm to win MVP not to say she wouldn't deserve it not to say she's not working herself into the conversation I already think she has but to win it that's going to be a tough Hill you know because CU some of the the Old Guard folks would you know they're going to hang on to that Cliff until you step on every damn finger uh CC second best shooter on the fever Lexi hold number one well Lexi is gonna have to do that a little bit more consistently because Kelsey Mitchell's also the second best might be the best shooter on the fever quiet as kept but they need Lexi Hull uh they need that position they've been desperate for that position and if can fill it that goes a long way to changing the entire equation long way to changing the entire equation all right let me get to some of the rest of you guys uh Robert says yes Indiana Fever are definitely serious contenders Frank Armstrong with t back yes Joe laa says thoughts on lelissa Smith future three points in 20 minutes I don't think Melissa is big part of the future for the team um I think her her Focus effort and energy can Wayne and defense can Wayan at times she definitely has some talent but I don't think she is a uh necessary piece for the team moving forward B witch says if they keep playing Team bow and I'm talking to Mitchell they are unstoppable Boston is passing like CC Mitchell after the break has been getting three assists per game that's a 300% increase look Kelsey's First Look is the bad like she's not the first player like that and most teams can use a player like that the next game is on Saturday um it does seem far away but I think it's good to space it out a little bit after the beginning of the season and also if you want the fever particularly um Caitlyn Clark to play well the longer she has between games the better she plays we that is starting to look like a statistical fact almost when it comes to CC got some thumbs up and muscles Lord schaer says Rob is that is that saying hi not sure Katie Katie says fever girls are clicking got to give it to Christy side she's figuring it out I think fever could make it far in the playoffs depending on they meet one round oh yeah yeah that's right that's right Christy sides any want to give her credit H the teams improved this much the coach has nothing to do with it no would anyone else like to offer Christy sides even a morsel a smidge of credit Martel Parks is showing me some Reese numbers look I I know Reese's numbers but who cares there's no need to compare to Caitlyn anymore it's over done done it's not a thing stop trying to make fetch happen you know Ernesto says kitlin has that Mamba mentality what up Ernesto Ernesto is in the uh fantasy football league by the way like I said as of the the start of the show there were three spots open uh drafts in two weeks so three spots to fill in the and and I did have two people text me about it earlier today so they seem to be interested so if you want to be in it we may actually be running out of spots um sooner rather than later bow bow bow does not need to go it perfectly fits Aaliyah Boston's personality and yeah I'm with that yeah I would probably take the Liberty to win the championship but here's the thing they got Caitlyn Clark you know um the one big Advantage for the the fever in in pretty much every game is that they have Caitlin Clark and then they also have Boston and Mitchell the questions were defense rebounding and shooting and they're looking to look a little bit better on defense Doug phelp says I think I saw Shannon sharp say the reason the storm were upset is because they were trying to get Caitlyn pulled so she couldn't I don't know what they were up said about it might have been Caitlyn gesturing in front of their bench it might have been the starters not being who cares that's sports that's fun that's part of the the Fun Spot that's nothing to be upset about that was nothing I mean all the stuff has been mostly nothing it's been the the Talking Heads who have like blown it up and of course there was some I'm not going to lie and say there wasn't some I want to say resentment is the word towards Caitlyn I think there definitely was but I I don't think it was a uh you know as big a like you know international incident as people made it out to be come on man the fever is going to the finals I mean it's possible I wouldn't have thought so in the past but it's possible it's possible fever already have the same amount of wins right now with 12 games left in the regular season they did last year that's something to be proud of that is true basil says Clark is certainly more valuable to her team the aces have a shot to win without AIA I'm not sure the fever in the same situation or the fever look miserable when Caitlyn's not on the floor AJ with the Super Chat Robin did you mean it when you said you think Mercedes has a chance to overtake Red Bull in the Formula 1 championship quite the hot take um yeah I think it's pretty clear like if I could drive a Mercedes or a Red Bull I think I might you know take the Red Bull to make sure I'm focused behind the wheel of the Mercedes but I'mma go with the Mercedes Kevin wicker go Aces Kevin and Aces fan couple more Super chats crash out king I joined his um spaces the other day uh if you guys want to check out those postgame spaces they're pretty entertaining way more variance in the WNBA playoffs versus the NBA only need to win eight games to win a title fever can make a run this year in my opinion I look they just smacked the storm right they smacked him and they smacked the Mercury really like Mercury came back it was a close game but they were up 28 points in that game they've already beaten the Liberty they're 5-0 in their last five games against winning teams they've got three like not pretend allar Bonafide All Stars they got the best lead guard point guard maybe the best player in the game and they've got you know they needed these ancillary pieces to step up and if if I'm serious if um if Lexi Hill can make those shots they can beat anybody if cuz she's already they're they've already been better with her on the court from a plus minus standpoint and and the way they've played if she can bury those shots they're gonna it's gonna be scary Parish Dugger support to the channel thank you sir Mr overnight radio in New York City anyway Caitlyn has been better than advertised Christy has improved no doubt and and guys by the way obviously we know what the focus of this channel has been but if you're super chatting we can talk about whatever you want um you know if you want to ask me Nick's question you can ask me a Nick's question uh question about FanFest like I said I I was there the wrestling stuff really was big there the the two biggest um pieces of energy were around WWE and people trying to catch a glimpse of Jay-Z who was up in this they had like a popup 4040 Club there but thank you for your support to the channel and thank you for going all the way back to the ESPN New York Radio Days uh uh for those of you who listen to me and Ryan on that Channel and you hear Ryan calling the games now he and I text back and forth all the time about this stuff but I appreciate it very much what do I think about a possible suspension coming um look it just don't get the technical fouls and if it's going to happen get it out of the way in the regular season I don't know how it works with far as the uh playoff rules go y okay Yeet I want wheeler to Burger to be the backup guard and not wheeler we'll see I mean look Christy sides has shown she can adjust and learn usually takes the coaches a little while and and Wheeler's making a pretty penny I think she's the highest paid player on the team they are one and four against the top two teams in the East so the short answer is no well when's the last time they played one because the last time they played the Liberty they beat them they haven't played the sun in a minute it's a different team now I don't think you can use the ear season record as a barometer for where they are now Randy King says Caitlyn yes she's popular Martell says it signal that Iowa CC is here well look she's uh she's got the keys right she's got the keys Sue Ellen Buchanan what do you think it would take for CCE to actually win the MVP if the feeder made it to the final so when do they do the wbp WNBA MBP voting I mean 2023 uh the results came out on this doesn't have a date come on y'all got to give me a date here okay October 15 2023 Brianna Stewart was named wmvp so no I mean like this is all before you know the the finals would occur I think what it would take is for the fever to be next to the aces in the standings for Caitlyn to continue her current level of play and the fever to be next to the aces in the standings or close to the aces in the standings which is a hill to climb I mean they're five games back but let's say they go on a hella run and they're within a game or two of the aces then I think it it starts to be a real thing I mean the number are going to be there can you relate a laugh Maddox says the Liberty are winning it Ernesto says let's go Liberty look I mean I'm not saying the Liberty aren't winning it I must have said something funnier before I mean I often do I often do oh we got another fantasy football so that might mean only two spots left unless you're one of the ones that already signed up but thank you to everybody who's participating in that um we'll keep a running tally we'll we'll you know uh update it throughout the the show and everything but we're almost there that would if if I'm right in assuming t uh xz6 was not there before the show started that means there's two spots left left that's it I wanted I wouldn't want to see Indiana in the playoffs if I'm a top team they may not be the favorites quite yet but they could beat anyone in a three- game series agreed I mean they're offensively they might be the best team in fact check this out um where was this stat I think it was that Clark report account um let me see if I can find it Clark report yeah so the fever in the last 15 games are top two in the WNBA in points per game field goal percentage and opponent field goal percentage so over a 15 game span they are top two in the clip that they're hitting shots at top two in the clip that they're holding their opponents to and top two in points per game that is a winning formula I I don't think people have come to grips with it yet but that's real and yes I think the fever have chance to compete this year not saying they're going to win it not saying they're the favorite but it wouldn't shock me what is AJ what are you fighting with people about in this chat here you know what um DS when will ruko be on the show we've been going back and forth on scheduling he's a busy busy guy and he's always uh flying around you know but we have been working on locking that down I promise promise you he will make an appearance on the the show or at least the channel Kevin says did you mean it when you said Danielson is the goat I don't think people know what you're talking about but I do not think that b Brian Danielson is the goat no Roman Reigns is the goat or the rock or stone Cold Steve Austin or Shawn Michaels or the Undertaker or Hulk Hogan all goats before Brian Danielson yeah k mitches k mitches you know look look every we've all seen them we we've all seen the players who they got their their eyes fixed on the basket first and it helps to have a player like that you don't want a team full of players like that but a player like that who's good at it that helps that helps yes Char I mean I think that's the key is Lexi really just hitting those shots and being a threat because if that happens the the fever are in business oh wow guys we I'm just looking at the numbers on YouTube this has to be a new record for concurrent um viewers on on the you YouTuber there so thank you I must be pretty good at this must be pretty good at this the W is stupid enough to do something like AJ suggestion oh oh this is going back to when he said that um Angel would win Rookie of the Year and Caitlyn would win MVP should we give sides time to develop a young Co yeah I mean I I I was the one defending sides and everyone called me a [ __ ] Look at me now you know I'm not always right but I usually am you know that's the way I would put it I'm not always right but I usually am um pH Liberty says cc is playing as well as Asia right now but Asia has done it all year so realistically it's not going to happen for Clark this year should get plenty of second to fifth place votes I agree with this um I think the the way the season started will ultimately be what keeps Caitlyn from the award this year but I do think she will finish second and I do think she will do enough to make it a you know like a talking point and I think she's already doing that because her numbers are so good the only way she can make it a real conversation or a real thing this year is if let's say the aces who look a little long in the tooth to me let's say the aces drop three games in a row at the same time as the fever win three games in a row then all the I mean because the the aces have the links and the links back to back let's say they drop those two games I'm not saying they will but let's just say they do and the fever win the next two more games all of a sudden those two teams are getting awfully close in the standings and if the fever are sitting next to them in the standings it'll be it'll be something I give sides a bit of credit Tom on Sports says my thought on Mitchell's free agency is if you can get a player with the same t okay you can let her go but it doesn't seem likely so they should renew her they should Max her they should Max her look I mean just the fact that the WNBA is being mentioned on the sports shows shows it's come a long way DS and look the WNBA as a whole no Caitlyn Clark is is as big as any athlete in sports right now we're having this conversation on the group chat me Kevin and um AJ because there was some Fox sports broadcaster who all got all been out of shape because someone on his show said that Caitlyn was a bigger star than Aaron judge and she's easily bigger star than Aaron judge like I don't even think that's even remotely close um but I had told those guys I think she's a bigger star than anybody in the NFL like singularly um the only American athletes who I think are on the same level of Fame and notoriety as Caitlyn Clark are LeBron James and Steph cart basketball players are just more famous than NFL players even though the NFL is more popular you know who's the most famous player in the NFL Travis Kelce because of Taylor Swift Mahomes and Rogers those are the guys Mahomes is the best player but he never it was Tom Brady Tom Brady might have been in this conversation but he didn't play anymore and then worldwide you got to throw Ronaldo and Messi in there that's about it that is about it Caitlyn in the MVP race fever already beaten Liberty and lyns sides was an idiot not playing Lexi H month no pass for I mean they only played like 15 games yo I mean takes sometimes it takes a second to adjust uh sides get some credit she's not trying to control from the sideline as much anymore she's been horrible I thought she was great in the Phoenix game I thought wrestling Caitlyn Clark when she did was very very wise um I think Caitlyn was gassed clearly at burn herself out and he he uh she got her in a position to be ready for the fourth quarter CC for the Royal Rumble since ke the Royal Rumble is going to be in Indianapolis like the All-Star game is going to be in Indianapolis I'm in a live stream you don't have car keys sorry I'm being interrupted to pass off the car keys I got this Deadpool in Wolverine keychain out of a claw machine actually want it which is a rare occurrence where you going Chu chuckecheese again they going to Chuck-E-Cheese like every night I got basketball tonight sorry uh where was I Mar tired too y'all cuz I I did radio today too three hours of radio um and we were pumping out content on women's fast break on SI last night shouts to to Grant young for the the help he's giving me with that um Brett The Hit Man Macho Man I don't even know where these wrestling things are coming from now which part of the conversation it was so many chats they have two more games against the Aces and one against the sun I want to see them against the Aces 11 and five in their last 16 games I would hope the likelihood of Mitchell staying as high that's up to her but I would think they'd pay her I would respect and appreciate coach s you don't go to Russia for six years if you're not trying to get better kind of petty but in the Liberty last 10 games they're nine and one in the fever of the one agreed Thomas they need that from Kelsey especially like those late shot clock situations Thom say for cc to be the MVP she has to have like four or five triple doubles and win 11 out of the 12 games left Bernie says junesu was too slow look Sabrina is a really good player uh really good player but she's not as dynamic as a Caitlyn Clark often the best team doesn't knock out oh win a knockout competition League usually look I mean the fever are getting there too nothing competes with TV ratings for the NFL but if the fever were to get in the finals I think they would beat or be very equivalent to the NBA finals and possib and beat the World Series maybe boxing and Bulldog says got the fever to win the championship at 61 dropped to like 30 to one after if you shown the odds for top five MVP uh AJ can probably find the latest odds for us the last time I checked it was Asia uh Caitlyn and Sabrina the aces have zero chance against the fever there you go Max contract for Mitchell one legit Tech when she yelled it was an effing foul oh here we go Asia Wilson AES minus 3,000 Caitlyn Clark fever Plus 8 yeah that was the latest odds I saw by the way minus 300 is about what Caitlyn is as a favorite for rookie of the year so to be fair if I'm saying the Rookie of the Year thing is not a discussion according to the odds right now the MVP is not at a discussion but I do agree with this that Caitlyn is legitimate in that regard I mean she it was clear she had burned herself out some of the fans don't think that you know and I can give sides credit because she kept her out for a minute that's the longest I think I've seen her sit down in the third quarter I think she asked out early in the game I'm talking about the third quarter when she sat for a prolonged stretch why don't this league acknowledge CL is an MVP it's coming yo oh rad kid reviews Daddy hi that's my son's uh you can turn you change it to e there Raj you might as well if we going to do the wrestling thing just change the the whole brand holy crap y'all there's so many uh chats in here I'm trying consider a super chat if you want to make sure you get your comment read CC could lead them to the chip people scared to say it I'm with you man it took a minute I'm not scared to say it but you still have like it's so weird it's like they made this basketball thing into something else where you got to be like you know like I think Caitlin Clark get good at basketball you racist what CC's actually got an edge on ASE on effective field goal percentage that's an interesting note look I think Caitlyn's gonna wind up finishing second is my guess but she moved up plus 500 according to DraftKings if Caitlyn doesn't make the all WNBA team it's a crime she should be the starting point guard on the all WNBA team what do you think guys should I do it or not I'll let the chat decide should I get Raj Madden 25 he's asking me Madden 25 verage thumbs up or down in the chat Raj you you keep watching you you'll find your answer here in a second why are we just submitting the MVP to Asia the aces the four well look I think it's a couple things one Asia has been great right um and deservingly you know has put up the numbers to deserve the MVP that's number one but number two is there there we've seen it all year with Caitlyn like there's this you know like reverence tax she must pay before people are allowed to say what is true in front of them um so that's part of it so we got a thumbs up from Madden a yes from Miss fins Kayla says thumbs up Kevin says thumbs up I think that's the thumbs up have it Raj you can get Madden 25 go ahead and purchase it on your PlayStation um I think you already have my information in there thank you for not abusing it I'm letting you make this joke I would not make the joke I I don't want to talk I've never heard so many race conversations in basketball before um and obviously that's a joke because of what Jackie Robinson really went through that's a real serious and like not obviously even in the same realm or Strat osphere or Galaxy or any of those things I mean you you you forget about like you know what guys like Jesse Owens and Jackie Robinson really went through I mean it's not even that far back historically that you know in the grand scheme of things you know you still have people arguing for Magic Johnson and Larry Bird right like Magic Johnson and Larry Bird are only 10 and 15 years you know past the point where black people were not allowed to go to the same schools and use the same water fountains and and all that so like all that stuff is real like there is is deep rooted um institutional things that that have taken hold in America that over the years have changed and adapted and evolved so you know I I don't ever want to make light of of anything like that I just meant when we're talking about basketball I never thought we would reach the sort of Discord that happened earlier in the year around around Caitlyn Clark who really has only been about basketball uh Connie Hawkins says tamy gets back in Indiana will'll be in the mix for a championship jgd says if the outrageous Tech on CC holds up it becomes a precedent for Tech showing disrespect for the game um yes she disrespected the game that's right that's what she said the ref did do it says uh Frank that's for Madden also I believe if the fever can beat the sun and the aces they will prove to themselves they can beat anyone another do it for Madden Doug says this yes all right Raj you got Madden I don't know if you're still watching did you did you respond in the chat I hope you were seeing it I got enough Super Chat money today to pay for Madden that might be [Laughter] TR kasab AJ Fe CC Stewie who gets left off the first team um so to me Clark and Sabrina would be the back court Kia copper I would have at the three I think at this point it's Stewart just because she's not having as strong a year but that could change oh no no no fee might be off too I'm sorry one two three four five six that's gonna be how many games did um nefisa Miss that would be almost my tiebreaker I would to me on that list it comes down to Stuart or nefisa um nefisa is probably having a better season but she also missed a decent chunk of time there for a minute she's play 22 games how many games does Brianna Stewart play let's look at this real quick so it could be actually accurate and fair here Brandon Stewart has played okay so it's only three it doesn't make enough of a difference but I think it'll come down to those too go get Kennedy she looks so annoyed at the sky and all the bully ball tactics look the sky are [Music] um they are uh an interesting team and Kennedy is a bit of a firecracker herself Connie says Asia does it on both ends of the court she does Ernesto says Raj deserves it he does cc is number two for MVP for sure I I'm with you Parish like I've said this I don't know if you've watched this show before but I've said it a million times in the midst of this I promise you there are so many black fans of Caitlyn Clark like you don't get as popular as she has been without being popular across the board and she's a basketball player where you know there's a probably bigger percentage of the audience watching ing basketball who happen to be black than many other things in life um so yes I I understand and I I don't doubt that whatsoever I do not think black people do not support Caitlyn Clark trust me I've been making the opposite Point ad nauseum all all season long it's only really loud people online like you know a handful of them some of the old like you know some of the old I I don't want to be rude but I don't even know if they're technically Media or or social media but some of the old uh Legacy W people I I'm not sure they watch basketball to be honest with you it's like bunch of drama queens and dumb asses um if we're being real about it given some of what I've seen out there remember CCE is rookie I mean yeah she's a rookie but whether she's a rookie or not doesn't matter if she's playing at this level shout out to the Philippines well look I mean I think you look at the team's position because of what you think the players's impact on the winning is it's not shouldn't be the only thing but I think it factors it did she really I didn't see that but I I think she might have been playing around I don't know I I don't know about this either is she wealthy I I didn't know k i never thought about it I never like again I never I I watched her at Iowa like in the tournament and then like last year but I I couldn't tell you nothing about Iowa other than that so it never came into my mind I never thought look at this white girl go oh he's got to cut the grass wow let's not do this the other way either why would whether she called herself a gangster doesn't make her racist and if she was upset about something the fever did doesn't make her racist either now don't pull the nonsense on the other side this is funny that that has to be like I saw one of the um big Caitlyn Clark Super Fan Twitter accounts like it's a a woman who revealed that she was black in the um spaces and everyone was like what was like really I mean look William I me it's like whether you're I don't have to draw a distinction between who's a real black person or not real black the bottom line is if you like basketball you like Caitlyn Clark you like I you can't you can't like basketball and not like Caitlyn Clark I just don't see how that's even possible she earned three million oh well I mean look but like ain't FL earning a ton of didn't Angel make a ton of money in college so Nissa just loses focus and effort but I'm a big fan of Kelsey also I don't want to say she sucks that's a little unfair because that was nothing why would she gets suspended barely touched her who cares I've seen this stuff in basketball my whole life like little incidents like that it's not it's not a big deal y'all that's the other thing is some of the like I also think no offense to anybody who's in this chat but I think there's also a lot of Caitlyn Clark Iowa fans who didn't really watch basketball before Caitlyn Clark that's okay but I get that sense too and I see this happening um KB though I I do think the rising TI lifting all boat thing is happening I think more people know who Tisha penero is now for an example more people are aware of the career that um Diana tazzi had had now more people are aware of who Asia Wilson is now that's just the truth look I think that's cce's pulled a lot of people in haven't watched the NBA since Pat Riley was coaching the Knicks that's been a minute I'm with you Parish it's not it's Caitlyn's the yeah exactly you know ball don't lie real recognize real game recognize game whatever whatever one of those phrases you want to use it was funny when she walked up to her mad fast she was pissed but the Kayla told him to stop crying come on this you should be drinking those tears like Cartman you know Doug Phelps 100% agree I am an IO fan never watch WMA prior to this year in enjoying it though yeah and that's okay I'm like new fans are good that's the other thing you know like the old fans act like they're some of them act like the people who that supported a band before the band blew up right and then like I used to like them before they got pop you um jock custo the starting fight for the fever ccab km LH right now it's Nelissa uh I think it might be T when she fully gets acclimated they get a big good Defender they will go far can the fever just go get cardoso I don't I don't I think that would be um a target for the Valkyries depending on how that works out yes exactly Kathy the end of the game was effing Cinema I was like that was hysterical like if you're a fever fan you should be loving every second of that from the from the Skyler dickin push to the coach losing her mind to juwel Lloyd being upset like if you're a fever fan that's like delicious tears they they the stormore in shambles thanks to the fever should make you thrilled she's definitely smart I mean they there was some confusion during the game about when she broke it yeah we finally had people stick up for Christy sides stop crying salty storm yeah all good all fun stuff we still got a lot of people in here my goodness I was going to be like all right that's it for me guys but it's always hard for me to look at the um the numbers and then and and then uh back out when we got as many people that are in here as are in here right now so I'll go for a little bit longer keep sending the questions no one yells at sides but us I mean I don't think you can ever say for sure um but I think it is that she will be the favorite let me put it that way I think or right there I mean look wheeler is the only other ball handler so you can't really get rid of Wheeler right now I understand not being a big fan but you can't really get rid of her you know Erica wheeler is the only other option the only other option I'll say Michael or yeah m is it Michelle M M Mikel Michael LeBlanc how about we go with LeBlanc um definitely is I mean this is going to set it's got to be close to set I don't know if it'll set the you know it's hard to tell because of how many people will watch after the fact but um we definitely got the most people who's ever watched at the same time I think I agree with you that it was funny maybe that's what you meant to say sure but they don't until they get somebody better she's the only option when when Caitlyn sits down they do need a great Wing that's what Hull is not saying Hull is a great Wing but that's why Hull hitting those shots was so big everyone yells it sides until now you know what the thing is what I've seen though over the course of this year is this um metamorphosis where there was a point in time where it was only only about Caitlyn and people were mad at the other fans or at the other players and now like they're rallying around the fever as a whole and the players on the fever as a whole so I think that's cool to see I am a fan of that you know and that will make everybody more popular I mean that's nice but doesn't mean anything about basketball uh I haven't seen Grace Burger play enough no I wasn't live during the game that's true probably too Parish I hope Mitchell isn't leaving either wow trying to keep up y'all yeah I mean look also like Caitlyn's not the first person with STS or super fans not the first big player like I I've had some people yell at me in the videos where I've compared Caitlyn to LeBron you know I don't care what you think about like LeBron's political views don't care uh I don't care like if you don't like LeBron don't care that wasn't the point of any of the things I was saying about LeBron and Caitlyn the ways I've compared LeBron and Caitlyn have nothing to do with any of that um number one was the like amount of discussion that they generate and the the haters that they have and all that stuff that was one you know LeBron is kind of the uh case study for that and then two there Kate Caitlyn and LeBron are alike in the way that they dominate every facet of a game while controlling the basketball and directing the team you know and making the team go so in those ways she is like LeBron thanks Raj did you get your message about Madden nice sheet Jay Uso is so popular I've interviewed Tom Brady twice before they don't have an alternative to Wheeler so they need to add that they're going to do it Kim Kelly if the th don't offer Mitchell some serious money she will be gone oh yeah they have to Max route uh they have to Max her out it's insulting to not Max her out you either Max Kelsey Mitchell out or you lose Kelsey Mitchell simple as that and she deserves to be maxed out hopefully she isn't hellbent on leaving for whatever reason to have her own team or change his scenery she's been there a long time but yes they should Max her out you don't think LeBron can handle the rough stuff LeBron has handled everything come on let's be real about it rattles shark I love seeing hell Hull step up at threes you think she is being trained to take no they're different players wheeler Wheeler's a ball hand they need a secondary ball handler now Caitlyn doesn't sit that much so it's not for you know just for like little spurts Hull is being groomed to be the wing player that we were talking about they've missed you know ktie Lou is not fast enough defensively she can shoot but she's not fast enough defensively if Hull can hit the the shots she hustles plays hard enough on defense does all the the gritty stuff and in combination with Caitlyn and Mitchell and Boston if she's hitting those threes that's why I I really think they're a contending team with that now that it's only one game she's got to hit it a you know got to keep it consistent but she's gonna play a lot if she's hitting outside shots you don't expect her to hit six to seven but if she can hover around that 35 to 40% mark this is a good point too Menace um Kelsey has gotten to the point where she's become a very good catch and shoot player which has really helped yeah LeBron was a little rude to that young fan but you also got to remember your LeBron James famous people are running up on you all the time and he's made it pretty consistent he doesn't want people in his personal space but even if he was it has nothing to do with what I said about him and Caitlyn you you have to be able to separate your personal feelings for what I'm talking about from a basketball standpoint I think again LeBron he went to Miami has been the most talked about discussed hated on athlete ever uh and that's something Caitlyn's sort of going through and LeBron is I've got the ball I'm in charge you're playing off me I've got Elite Court Vision I'm making the decisions that's Caitlyn too I'm impacting every aspect of the game good to know Kayla I always appreciate your support LeBron would have sent Bill lambier through the basket you really think there's any era LeBron wouldn't excel at I got news I got a rude awakening for you dude is Carl Malone size you know 68 270 but moves faster than anybody else he would have dominated those folks dominated them Boston has to take the floater coming out of the pick and roll um look I think they're still learning all that stuff but Boston has a nice touch telling you now the fever winning the championship this year look I I ain't mad at it LeBron's a basketball Genius Like Caitlyn's a basketball genius I mean LeBron just won the uh Olympics MVP let go of what I mean this guy's been doing it for 20 years again leave your emotions to the side leave your emotions to the side holy crap we still got a lot of people in here well she shot the what is what is aah Boston three-point shooting percentage too I'd almost like to see her take a few more of those what's Aaliyah shooting from three let's look it [Music] up by the way Aaliyah seems like such a lovely young lady she's shooting 40% from three I mean she's not taking that many but she shot 40% from three last year too on very small number of attempts I mean she's only taken 18 this year she only took 10 last year but she shoots 40% for his career her career on 28 shots I'd like to see that volume come up a little bit actually what's up Robert DS the Lakers have let LeBron down I agree with that I disagree with this Steph should not have won Olympics MVP LeBron was better the course of the whole tournament Steph had two good finishes and I love Steph I love Steph it was amazing what he did at the end of that gold medal game but the Olympics is more than that it's it's it was an entire tournament and LeBron was the best player over the course of the tournament that's why he won the MVP it's simple as that yes leaving emotions to the side cc is a beast I agree with that I agree with that yeah I mean Boston is really starting to they're like a onew punch in that regard right now well LeBron's team won I'm talking about the winning on the Team USA sorry if I was unclear I met on Team USA the best part of sides offense everyone has the green light from three the fever are a dangerous offensive team gotta ask Steph this I mean who's been on the uh thank you who's been on the um Lakers LeBron won the inseason tournament just this year what are you talking about got the inseason tournament Championship fever need to move the basketball more they have more options than easy shots CC needs to score more gives team more options let me piggyback off that for one second I do think sometimes Caitlyn overpasses a little bit she put Kelsey in a bad spot on one of those plays where she should have taken it to the hole herself but one thing that was very noticeable in yesterday's game is Caitlyn starting to take midies and starting to take floaters and if that happens look out you know that Kevin Garnett had mentioned that perhaps Caitlyn used the Olympic break almost like an off season and you could see she was definitely in the lab definitely in the lab and Miss fins I mean the fever over the last 15 games or top two in opposing field goal percentage top two inseason tournament big deal Kevin was the first ever Michael Jordan will never win any inseason tournament it's a fact def F probably not ready to win the championship we will see over the next 12 games cuz they play some tough teams if they beat them the odds go up I mean they just played some tough teams I don't know if I honestly believe Lexi Hull can shoot at a good clip they're dangerous Bud says sides gave the offense to CC at the break yeah well like something happened with the fever where they realize what they have their their whole social media tune changed their coaches tune changed everything about it changed they were like we ain't fumbling in the bag we ain't fumbling in the bag they have already beat the links in Liberty the only team they ain't beat is the aces Kayla says the good thing is CC is aware she sometimes passes too much I mean you could tell if she worked on it good luck to your son Ernesto I would love it if they signed Gabby Williams would love it I agree swept the Mercury true I'm not saying she shouldn't pass her the ball I'm saying the position she was in she should have taken in herself yourself LeBron let's call it the LeBron trophy I think it's the NBA cup or something like that one more reminder guys please uh like And subscribe to the channel check out women's fast break on SII constant updates coming on that website with all the latest news in women's basketball obviously we cover Clark and the fever very heavily over there as well uh sign up for the fantasy football league if you haven't I believe believe there are only two spots left believe there are only two spots left hey need your take on rebound points double double and assist points double double I just don't think double double matters like whether it was a double I've never once like a triple double was always a thing because it was a little bit more of a rarity and even once Russell Westbrook came through kind of triple double um Chang things you know the uh triple double when I was growing up like Oscar Robertson seemed like a mythical figure now his whole legacy's ruined because Russell Westbrook came through and did all those triple doubles but a triple double you know it was immortalized in the Ice Cube song messed around got a triple double I mean a double double was always cool but I never heard it touted before it was a regular occurrence a points rebounds double double or a points assist double double I can't tell you which is better without watching the game we're seeing how the rest of the game came to be right like were the re what when were the rebounds had how were the rebounds had uh you know did the team win was the did the players shoot efficiently like a lot of it goes into it other than double double or not um I mean on the surface a points assist double double is better only because a assist guarantees your scoring points a rebound gets you another possession it doesn't guarantee points so just in a vacuum a points assist double double is better not because Caitlyn Clark is more likely to get that than Angel ree but because an assist means points were scored I agree that's always been my goal what up Raj did you Chang the is this a different Channel where are you coming from man did you get your Madden yet Angel would be a great fit for the fever Angel playing off of others is strong all right I'll read this of 5,90 double doubles in WNBA history 7.8% of them have been achieved with a minimum of 10 points okay so I don't know how what that has to do with Angel necessarily oh only I see 8% of the double doubles have been points assists double doubles versus 91% well look wnba's also always been a big heavy League well no a double double shouldn't be 15 20 points and 15 rebounds because the whole point of the double is double figures you know you could say it shouldn't be celebrated but you can't change what double figures mean you know this is probably true too but probably cace Parker did not know Aaliyah has done everything well you are right about that Katie everything if you're writing hateful or racially coded or any of those comments I'm not reading them sorry guys the fever have already locked up a playoff spot you don't have to worry about that I mean all sure they're technically no but they've locked up a playoff spot don't worry about it do not worry about it yes that's the point of saying if she shoots like this I don't know what's up with Tam's hand I don't know what's up something's up there hopefully she's all right soon Boston look like yic I make my kids read an hour after school before get they get into games an hour that's a long time to read yo 20 minutes no I understand that the technically the Liberty there I'm telling you the fever are making the playoffs you can yell at me if they don't they're going to make the playoffs mean look at the standing what did the Chicago is there three games up on the Atlanta Dream the fever the dream you're not making up three games on the fever and the sky are going to go in the wrong direction the sky or the team that is in danger of missing the Playoffs severe danger of missing the Playoffs because I'm looking at their schedule this is the sky schedule Connecticut Vegas Washington Indiana Minnesota Vegas there's a good chance the sky go on a one two three four five six seven game losing streak or lose six out of seven games they can sneak that Mystics win or you know five out of seven games if they sneak another win they're in trouble oh clarification he had already signed up so still three spots left in the fantasy football league three spots sign up if you want to play full it's full-time Fantasy by the way through Circa and Vegas um winner gets $1,000 second place gets $500 if you're the overall points leader you get um if you're the over points ler not just in our league but the overall points leader in the division of those leagues you qualify for the Fantasy Football World Championships this guy don't have the players they don't have the Personnel they don't have creative guards they can't shoot or score or create yes Vonda it is a paid league so you pay to enter and that's how the money gets Divi out at the end I don't know if the aces are better I don't think the aces are better than I mean I know they beat the dude I think the aces are getable I do I think they're long in the tooth in the back court yes the last two game winning streak is proof they can beat anybody I think May was a big loss for this guy big loss I agree Chelsea Gray does not look good in the back court the MVP is mostly locked but not all the way locked the way the fever are playing I think they can beat any team not sure about winning a series versus some higher team I don't know why not no one's hating on the aces I'm just saying their back cour barbecue chicken that's all fever will run the Aces over can't wait till Tami comes back I think the fever can get the aces also oh my goodness this is uh we are a far cry from where we were right I can't remember if I read this chat or not making sure I get to all the super chats fever need to give basketball more they have more options Easy Shot CCE yeah I think I did uh talk about CC over passing at the time but um I just wanted to make sure I read all the super chats and didn't miss that because thank thank you all for your contributions in there yeah I mean I don't really care about Dave port always bet um what would happen they would win the championship I don't know if it's the look I Chelsea Gray should not have been playing in Paris and I agree with you Parish it is insane I mean that's about as um that's about as uh good a way to end this is there is you know that full circle um the full circle moment that I started this show with which was that I remember the time when I was in here saying are people going to want to tune out are people going to want to continue to watch are people going to you know all these things and look where we are now that is pretty incredible that is pretty incredible so I do you know there's so many people still watching I just can't stream all night guys um but I do appreciate all of the interaction on this channel um where we've gotten to here uh I I'll give you another couple minutes so if you want to get any more comments in send them in right now women's fast break on si in the description uh click on that check it out check it out daily check out the Articles click on the fantasy football link couple spots left in the fantasy football link or League we just got a few spots left left to fill let's hey fill it fill it right now and let's get that rocking and rolling her passing is so fun to watch [Music] um it certainly is I did see what Shannon sharp said I I think people are overreacting to the Skyler Diggins thing I thought his comments were funny though but I think everybody's overreacting to the Skyler Diggins thing you know that was not that big a deal she was just salty just Sal salty and if you're a fever fan you should be thrilled with that that's the kind of thing that's glorious sure I can explain how the playoffs work um so eight of the 12 teams make the playoffs they're seated by record the um first round is best of three and then it's best of five the rest of the way watch skot digs write a book about CC fans who's the Menace what what are we talking about here oh menace to your [Laughter] mama uh yeah um all right y'all I think oh if the playoffs started today uh fever would be play in the sun this is also true too I never thought of Skyler Diggin Smith um you know as as somebody would loser cool like that as an advocate against bullying that was weird I I mean that's not bullying she got upset in the moment like it happens to the basketball it's happened to me on a basketball court like who cares Caitlyn's bullying if if if that's bullying Caitlyn's bullying by celebrating um on the you know on the other team's in front of the other team's bench and telling them to stop crying wow that's interesting look the fever are arrested yes first seed place the eighth seed it works like that but that rest off will will have the fever ready to go thank you appreciate that winning is curing everything it's always the case this DT Last Dance she's going to retire no and she never beats CC feel so good for my soul cc is a winner that's true uh they already not till next year Menace they already been here twice thank you Miss fins I appreciate that appreciate all y'all all right that will do it for me until the the next live um just check the schedule check out the channel new videos all the time check out women's fast break on SI check out Fantasy Football uh I'll be on with Denise Salo this Friday for Smackdown if you're a wrestling fan and this is probably true as well the Olympics probably did help thank you everybody until next time ye