Puka Nacua did WHAT in High School? | STLKUTA Cougars Podcast
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[Music] welcome back to the stlk and the UTA cougs podcast uh today's Show's really packed we haven't been back for three weeks I believe is that right Steve it's been way too long it's been way too long the football schedule released BYU basketball's been going crazy good and bad uh and there's just a lot to talk about first and foremost former BYU cougar pukan yua uh played in the All-Star celebrity game did you know he was playing ahead of the game I didn't know I I did so on the Pat McAfee show okay I I I followed this very closely he does and he uh facetimed someone while puka was on the show I think to the extent of hey what does it take to get puka in this game and the guy was like nothing I don't I'm sure we could find a spot they're finding random random WNBA players they might as well get yeah and so they had to find another guy they found micle Hardman who was the Super Bowl winning catch uh he played fantastic looked like he was yeah yeah he looked great he played great he did look great uh he had a couple dunks that were really impressive yeah I watched puka is an or high guy he is you went to or high I I am an Norm highy you guys prob of Besties not besties but we were friends same class uh he was younger than me by how many years a year just a year felt like he was older than me he was everybody's older brother actually felt like I've been saying this since the the moment I watch puka play football he's the best high school athlete I've ever seen in my life yes and I I this I don't know if this is weird or not I go to a lot of high school events like I love High School football I went to a game like yesterday yeah I love high school basketball I'm going the playoffs start tomorrow in 4A M uh and I'm going to go to the Mountain View game and I I watched puka play football I was teaching in Mountain View High School at the time it was at orm and it was 49 nothing at halftime this is 2018 I don't remember the year you would know you know than I would this is Cooper Lega quarterback this is uh the Oregon middle linebacker uh Noah yeah and this is puka on the outside and I I I kid you not every other play was just a streak to puka down the sideline Cooper lag go would throw it as far as he could Jain Team all state Javelin Cooper the golf one of two things would happen puko would either outrun the guy and just catch it and run in for a touchdown or he would jump over the cornerback and then Juke out the safety and then score a touchdown and it was unbelievable he he he's special so they actually played uh Bishop Gorman the year after and I went down so his senior year his senior year I I did the broadcasting for that Mountain View game on the radio for Oram and uh well first first of all they they ran the same plays against Bishop Gorman and it actually worked so like you might be feeling bad that Mountain View happened to them happened to the best team of the nation too uh that game orm was up 49 nothing is that right at halftime against Mountain View yeah it was blood blath so so me and my buddy we're sitting next to each other we're broadcasting the game we turn around like mid third maybe fourth quarter puka a is standing right there we're like What in the he still like I can't remember it might have been right after either either the way either way he's like let me hop on I'm like is this allowed like can we he's like you in like above the we're up next to the offensive coordinators so like we're all right there so he's like walked up yeah walked up the crowd no he you had to go behind the boo I think this was right as the game ended cuz we were still on live air either way uh he had a great game well he did the he did the same thing in the celebrity game he just went and sat down on the other commentators one of I can't remember who it was it might have been who's the the former NBA player regie yeah yeah no I I don't know I don't know if he did the game but it's one of them but one of the commentators just took off his headset and just gave it to PUK and puka just sat down they just did like an impromptu interview so he's comfortable on the mic well it's working for him like he's getting a ton of popularity anyway incredible athlete he's not that one of the things I was going to say is he also played basketball at orm so I watched him play basketball and he honestly wasn't that talented of a basketball player but just his athleticism and his vertical and his quickness he just dominated he he understands the game to a level that like was insane like he he knew where the ball need to be at any given moment and I will say that that's a talent that doesn't really go seen sure he was one of the smartest basketball players I've ever play freak athlete oh my goodness he had a dunk against Mountain View you remember this it was like a drop step half 360 he dunked on one of your big guys yeah he it it was great I was just going to say in the he should have stopped passing to marip Parsons I know like he won the MP and he had like 40 points or whatever he also took like 44 shots yeah that wasn't cool kind of like a ball hog puka had 16 I actually bet the over on puka was at 12 and a half and I was like that's too low like good call anyway shout out puka um BYU basketball UCF a game that we were up what 20 most of it I left I left my house with a minute to go I think we're up like 9: maybe a minute and a half to go my wife and I are sitting on the couch watching the game I'm a little bit late to basketball starts at 9: I'm like all right we got it in the bag I'm going to leave I turned on the radio and good thing I did I get to the church to play basketball and somebody had it like on a on a stereo listening to the game and I I swear from that point the game went another like 20 minutes are you playing basketball with like 90y olds who who brings a radio to not a radio no it's like a Bluetooth stereo hook up the radio to it but anyway it was a crazy game they scor 15 points in the final 54 seconds they scored 19 points in the final final 2 minutes well mine's more impressive yeah it is but I'm just saying I'm looking here it was 6980 with 2 minutes left we were up 11 two minutes ago yeah we had in the bag we won by two that's when you probably left when dur the media break and then they just could not miss I think they made two three-pointers in the first 39 minutes of the game yeah and then they finished with six they they scored four three-pointers I think they had one for two free throws and then just like a a layup and that was 15 points in the final 54 seconds they could not miss a historic like probably the craziest game I've ever seen I maybe I shouldn't say seen listen to cuz I wasn't even there watching you didn't finish it but just insane and we still won which is nice yeah so I I was doing the same thing I was watching the game on my phone cuz obviously why have a big TV if you're not going to watch Tangled on it and we're up by I think 4 with it maybe 30 seconds left and my buddy calls me and he's like yeah just left the game it was crazy and I was like maybe I'm behind cuz it's like not believable yet it was over yeah it felt well when I was watching it wasn't over yet cuz it was like where they were making those no I'm not saying it's actually over but it was like but for the guy that left he was like yeah the game was crazy and I was like Oh I thought like it was kind of close so I'm like Curious when he actually left the building anyway I'm like he must know more than I do I get the final notification I'm like we only won by two what just happened so I had to go back and rewatch it we do have to shout out Jackson Robinson I believe you finished the game 9 for 10 from the free throw line 9 for nine nine for was he yeah I believe so I I saw that he didn't miss so whoever makes he had how did he get an odd number then but maybe it was 10 for 10 then either way he's shooting 89% from the free throw line on the season uh anyway really impressive number there but uh crazy game historic game and I really lik coach post perspective in the right he missed one with exactly a minute left was it 9 for 10 then y something like that dang it uh coach Pope after the game was talking about you know just how proud he was of the team it kind of came off Weir at first but then he started to explain the context he's like we took an absolute like something that will never be replicated again never right who did it better T-Mac or the UCF nights like and that's really the yeah but like individual what do you have eight points in the final minute or something yeah something crazy seven in like 15 seconds yeah yeah yeah and this is like UCF like one of the craziest things you'll ever see in BYU still pulled it out and so shout out to our guys for finishing the game but man it got close there at the end way too close um Oklahoma State I'm trying to erase it for my memory so real fast to before we jump away from the UCF game UCF won these categories and lost the game on Tuesday offensive rebounds Second Chance points steals points off turnovers bench points paint paint points fast break points and they lost that game against BYU wow every single category I just mentioned BYU won on Saturday against Oklahoma State and lost the game the main every single one of those every single one of those BYU won on Saturday and lost the game the the common denominator there is the home team won both games yeah it's impossible to win on the road I should say impossible it's so hard to win on the road in the Big 12 you said the stat I've said the stat no big 12 team has a winning record on the road this year that's crazy is tied for first at three and three that's the best record in the Big 12 on the road yeah that that's insane okay but we got to go back to this BYU won all of the you just rattle off a dozen stats wins everyone and we still lose we still lose well it wasn't like it was like that close no most of the game it's like we have to have a miracle let it's over kjo was talking to me he's like dude we played terrible I'm like I don't know if we played terrible like we didn't play great could hit Oklahoma state did play incredible like they look like a top team in the conference that that day uh obviously they're not they have a whole bunch of young guys but they played really really well and they won the game I'm not sure how they did it cuz you look at the stats and it's like oh my goodness but you said it shot selection well the two things yeah well that's the tell for me I've been saying it for weeks now the tell for this BYU team is three-point shot selection if we're settling for bad three-pointers it's not going to be a great game for us now we've shot well enough from the three-point line we shot you know we we have been one of the best teams from two in the NCA this year so we've shot well enough we play good enough defense to win a lot of these games but uh BYU is not good when we're settling for poor three-pointers and that's the tell for me and and in my mind that's when coach Pope needs to be calling more timeouts regrouping the team and I know he's been very skittish to tell his guys to stop shooting yeah he's been on Rock record he's saying he's wants 35 threes a game he's talked about it in postgame shows specifically addressing Jackson Robinson thrown up a lot of Threes in a few games ago but uh yeah at some point you got to tell your guys all right we can get better looks than we're getting especially against the team that's worse in the league it's hard BYU I'm not sure if this is true after the game on Saturday but before the game on Saturday we have shot more threes than twos the entire year yeah which is hard to your point it's so we don't want them to stop shooting it but you guys are so good when you do get to the basket and that might be for a lack of volume uh but we do have to attack the basket more especially against a team like that right and it shows in our free throws numbers which we've talked about before too we usually get out you know we never have as many free throws as the opponent uh and you probably saw you and I probably saw the same stat I think there's only been five teams in the last like 10 or 15 years that have shot more threes than twos and boou currently is one of those teams and I I mean I don't mind that right if we're taking good threes like we should take them we have the shooters to to win basketball games that way I just have the stat from Greg reubel by this season when we shoot above 33% from three we're 16 and two when we shoot below 32% we're 0 and five that's crazy and my man that's the tail right and here's the stat to back it up when we're taking good threes we make a higher clip and we win the game when we're taking poor shots you know I'm thinking about a lot of off those screens right we we play that five out motion offense and guys come hard curling off those screens and just turn and shoot and turn and shoot a lot of times or off balance or the Defenders right there and anyway tough looks and I think that bit us on Saturday even given that we won a lot of the categories um we're recording this on Tuesday at 4:00 I I don't think this is going to be released before the Baylor game uh it's hard for those who don't know it's hard to edit something and get it out really quick it's not an easy thing to do uh but I do want to touch on Baylor really quick whether we win or lose I think we can talk about it BYU opened as a two-point F favorite when the lines dropped and I apologize for talking about gambling so much but I feel like he does talk tell a big story with projected winners and stuff the line has moved to four and a half for BYU which means they are heavy favorites tonight do do you think that's fair do you think BYU is a five-point favorite tonight I would love to say yes but I don't know we we played in Waco and we played the whole game with Baylor we were up by nine in the second half against Baylor at that point that was January 9th and we were ranked uh let me see here we were ranked 18th and the bears were ranked 14th this week we're still ranked in the AP poll 25th bers ranked 11th they're on a terror right now to be honest they've won six of their last seven I believe five of the last six they won the last the only loss was at number four Kansas and the loss previous to this little run they were on was three against in overtime against TCU who's a team that should be ranked and isn't ranked yeah and so to say that BYU's favorites against a team like this I mean be does have a great homec court advantage it is a Tuesday it will not be sold out again which is unfortunate for a ranked match up like this man I I can't I don't know that Bo should be a four and a half Point favorite that's a lot of points but here's the here's the if you think BYU is going to win they win by more than five we've shown that time and time again this year if we're going to win a game like we're not winning these games by two or three CU if we're up by two or three we're going to lose the game we just can't close halfs it seems no we can't especially in the second half when actually that half is really important to close uh if you think um Baylor's going to be within four just take the money line you you can get positive money there uh and again this isn't gambling advice it's just it's really interesting that Vegas is basically saying if Bo you wins it it is going to be by more than a couple uh in my opinion in my mind that's the those are the two most likely scenarios I think the most likely scenario is baor wins close yep uh and the second most likely scenario is Buu comes out on a tear they're shooting from three well the defense the energy in the building and and they win by you know 11 12 points I think those are the two I'm really excited to clip that exact what you just said and then be like oh my goodness like what just happened but I mean BYU I think Baylor's playing their best basketball of the season right now and we can't say that BYU is which is unfortunate yeah uh we we've been giving up a ton of points we dropped I think from top 20 in Total Defense to 56 50 something in two games uh the cougar stats post here I love cougar stats onx Bo has allowed 111 points in the last two against the two worst offenses in the Big 12 UCF scored what 66 in the second half that was the second half and then the Oklahoma State first half and so unfortunately when you get closer and closer to March you get you know to these crunch time games you want to be playing your B best basketball right you want to start to Peak at this moment PE we Peak at the wrong time and unfortunately we Peak at the wrong time and I I hate to change gears other sports are like this like the Chiefs a lot of people thought they peaked at the wrong time because they were really good at the beginning of the year they could have been nine and0 had a couple catches gone their way and everyone said they Peak too early but they were a really good team they turned it on at the end I think BYU can do the same I don't think they're I don't think in the locker room they're like yeah we already Peak like yeah we probably shouldn't say they've already peaked because who knows what happens yeah they've played really good basketball though and they still have to get to the final four so at some point they have to play better than they're play you really do if you're going to buy that stock Now's the Time uh let's talk tournament real quick is that okay Joel lardy uh does the ESPN Bracketology he's incredible he has BYU as a six seed before this game uh with a Down Arrow which means they're losing stock which is okay uh CBS BYU's a seven seed Bleacher Report BYU is a seven seed the athletic uh who does they don't do a bracket but they do like who's who's a lock who's in who's on the bubble beu is not on the bubble uh whoever wrote it I didn't see who wrote it projected in right projected in this is this is the question I have for you Steve what does BYU need to do in the final let's assume we lose to Baylor tonight cuz Mo everyone's going to be listening to this after we already played this game what does BYU need to do in these last five games to be a lock for the tournament is there a scenario where we only win one and we're a lock so you're saying we finish the season like one one one and six MH well I think so much rides on the Big 12 tournament as well right if we finish the season 1 and six we have to play the first day which really sucks we don't get the the first round byre uh Gregory Bell put out a stat that on February 20th every team in Bo's position has made the tournament there's never been a team as high as they are in the net Bo is still like top something in the net top 10 top 11 98.8% I had that setat written down so everyone that's been in the top 20 of kmom on February 20th has made the tournament 98.98% of the time so a virtual lock right virtual lock but this is the actual lock on February 1st anyone in the top 10 since 1996 has been in the postseason 100% of the time and we were and we were we're number nine I mean we could have a historic falling out the way we finish games if we finish the season like that something could be go go terribly wrong it was either Joel lardy or Ken Pomroy from the beginning of the Season said if bu can go or excuse me from the beginning of conference play if bu can go 500 in the Big 12 they're in right now they're six and six so they're sitting at that Mark but we do have tough games upcoming we play the number two team in the conference the number three team in the conference the number four team in the conference and the number five team in the conference we have some really tough away games coming up um but to get in the tournament I think so we have six games left yes well six after five after tonight okay so I think we to to be a lock for the tournament we got to go two and four at the very least I agree so if we can beat TCU we play them at home beat Oklahoma State at home and beat Kansas State we're for sure lock like we're absolutely in this thing we could State's in Manhattan yes it is uh we could lose in the first round of the tournament or Big 12 tournament and that's okay if we lose against Baylor lose against Kansas State lose against Kansas which are all tough games it's no Cakewalk and then beat TCU in Oklahoma State I agree I think we're probably in uh I think that TCU game I think TCU should be ranked when they do come to Provo which is going to help us a lot they should be ranked right now yeah they should be uh by you maybe shouldn't be yeah I'll take TC over yeah I think if we to your point I think if we can go two and four these last six games I think we're virtual lock to get in the tournament yeah and talking about seating I saw St that Bo's right now there's a bunch of people that do brackets right yeah I think B's average seed was like 5.88 I would love to get a six seed at this point m a couple weeks ago I would have been shooting for like a five maybe a four seed but at this point like a six seed I think feels good what I would hate to have happen is we slide to end of the year and we end up with the like the eight seed right and you play in that 8 n game that's tough and you win a game and you're excited and then okay now you get the one seed right great here's Yukon yeah but if we can get like that six or seven seed and get you know that gives us a way better chance to get to the Sweet 16 it would just be such a disappointment to have a first round exit in the given this season that we've had and all the excitement and hype around this team to have a first round exit in the in the NCA tournament would be a massive disappointment um Kansas State 4-2 at home Kansas 6-0 at home Kansas State 6-0 at home they're combined 16 and two at home those are the last three remaining games it's so hard to win a away games in the Bible last night Houston and Texas they both just win at home which which yeah and those were great games but it it just makes tonight all the more important for BYU right you have a top 15 team coming to Provo we have to get this game especially given the tough road games we have on the rest of the schedule um if the if the season ended today before the Baylor game even if we lose to Baylor actually it'd stay the same first round by in the Big 12 we'd play number seven Texas and then Houston and then Baylor again and then Kansas and that'd be to win the Big 12 tough road to get away from that those matchups we'd have to finish in the top four I'm actually going to put the graphic right here or have kjo do it thanks conjo uh the graphic right here of the tournament the top four teams get a buy they get a double buy don't they they get a double buy excuse me yeah and I don't think BYU can make it there so we just just have to avoid falling backwards into that first day matchup right that which is really important I'm with you you ready for some uh quizzes let's do it some stat quizzes all right here we go I'm giving you five stat categories and you have to tell me which by basketball player leads the team in each category hard it's going to get from easy to hard I believe it first one points per game Jackson Robinson wow that quick yeah I mean he's our guy he's a first- round draft pick well that's what we were saying for a while sure falling off real fast why is he not starting well they've gone back and forth with him and Spencer and Trevon Trevon had that injury so he got pulled from the starting five I get it and in fact like I'm all for like having a spark Off the Bench start the game with your best I'm a huge Jackson we might disagree on this he he makes shots that no one else on the team can make true come March we are going to be in a game I already know it I see it where we're down two with 45 seconds left and we need a bucket we need Jackson to have as many opportunities to make a shot like that before that time comes so he's comfortable doing it I do think he's a player unlike most Bo basketball players I watched him dunk last year like in the like in traffic and he dunked and I'm like I haven't seen that at BO in a while never just athlete right Bron Davies where are you but man I just go back to shot selection I'm just an efficiency guy you know you're like you're probably like a volume shooter I'm like no like I'm for I'm all for the 10 good shots your volume and your efficiency does not matter when we need one bucket we anyway jacksonon leads us some points okay this one's much harder though who's second this doesn't count this is just a little backup who's who's second on the team I bet you don't get this Spencer Johnson no it's Trevon Nell really second on the team 11.6 points a game U has five players that are double digit scores on average there's not a lot of teams in the country that can say that no but no one averages over what 15 14 yeah so Jackson's at 13.8 right now very very balanced team okay rebounds per game uh rebounds Waterman Waterman 6.0 yeah okay here's another one that the second is way harder than the first who do you think second on the team in rebounds that is hard um D Hall okay is it decent guess no he's a good rebounding for a point guard I think it's actually Spencer Johnson interestingly enough yeah I see that yeah yeah not not a huge guy not a big body but he gets in there he does afid to R it up uh here you go this is number three so you're one you're two for two right now yeah blocks per game it's not fous it's not um whatever his name is it's not Khalifa Khalifa thank you it's not him he's a big guy though You' you've mentioned number two and three wow okay uh it's not Johnson because I I feel like it'd be a bigger stat if it was Johnson it's not Johnson is it a tiki it is it is a tiki the reason I brought this up Bo is of all the stat categories that b is near the top of the NCA bloxs is not one of them I was going to say we never block shots yeah we're very we're very in the bottom 50 I believe how average per game uh atiki is .6 yeah but that's listen that's in 12 minutes it's pretty good yeah yeah that's not bad for 12 minutes if you went per minute okay uh field goal percentage you're three for three okay field goal percentage uh D Hall Dal Hall is mid- tier on the team Dang d hall is only at 45% oh really it's another big it's oh Khalifa It's not he shs too many threes it is yeah he gets to that right hand when unable when he goes up and under something Sparks in my chest I'm like I love it oh my gosh okay last one you're three for four okay free throw percentage oh Jackson Robinson Ooh that's what you thought huh towns in triple when he's 9 for 10 on the season okay does that count matters here 9 for 10 that's impressive shout out to the mustache come on who's second Jackson Robinson I feel like I just got tricked there man n for 10 hey I'm pretty impressed he did a good job let's see I'm going to pull up the stats here how many has Jackson shot he's shot a l more he's 39 for 44 well Jackson shot more free throws in the final minute of that UCF game than towns and triple has all season that is true Spencer Johnson's shooting pretty good too but he also doesn't have the same mustache that towns and triple has he doesn't okay here's a wild card you're never going to get this three point [Music] percentage oh that's tough this one's a trick too it's a trick I'm looking at the stats right now I hate that you put fo there man two for three 66% come on is two for the the season I didn't know I don't remember him taking a shot no me neither I remember one of them Trev Nell is still top 50 in the country in 3 percentage 40.7 that's so good that's really good impr especially considering he's had some tough games of late but like you watch these big 12 games dude and like it feels like there's never an open shot well you you watched Houston Texas last night excuse me both both of them yeah Houston the Houston Iowa St game watched the first half the first like 12 minutes of the game iow ST had like 10 points six with seven minutes left in the first half they had six points six points which is like Houston only had 19 like they weren't down 30 like they both are such good defensive teams the fact that BYU has beaten Iowa State this year UN about a Resume Builder that's like the best one we've had in probably years yeah and I remember watching the game and I was like how are we doing this and we came out with a win that's awesome and they're a really good and balanced team they're incredible they are incredible B is a balanced team too I like the way I like our team aspect I I like those quizzes those were fun I like those a lot good work do we do we have enough time for I forgot we're not doing sleep slate unless you want to dang it I mean we've only got like 20 we're at 25 minutes let's just do it real quick no far anyway you got to throw me a wild card I give you four throw me a wild card a wild card uh okay do the over. five on text about firing pope from kjo all right you ready I think we have enough time for Steve slate we have to it's game day you text it to me I'm going to read them off it's game day Foose over or under three and a half free throws attempted we just talked about fo is a good uh free free throw shooter yeah did we talk about that no talk about his three point percentage his scorching is 78% free throw shooter that's good for a big guy that's really good for a big guy it's really good for a college so the line is what three and a half two and a yeah three and a half three and a half free throws um he's had a tough couple games he's been so hot and cold at West Virginia he had like 29 Points they decided not to double team him I'm saying they I'm going to say they're going to gamble with fo tonight and he's going to have a really good night getting his feet in the paint getting fouled he likes the Up and Under uh I'm going over three and a half okay attendance uh this one's kind of hard over under 16,500 I keep talking about they way overpriced tickets which is unfortunate Lois is what 40 bucks tonight and no one's even going to be there I thought about going and I'm like man that's just like 100 bucks after fees to get me and my wife there for a game in the I'm not sure well it's unfortunate but it feels like a lot of Bo's best games this year have been the Tuesday night game yeah whereas most of the Saturday games are sellouts already even though they're not their best games and so if we could get you know better games on Saturday that' be nice but over under 165 Bo is one of the best attendance teams in the country we have one of the biggest Arenas in the country which helps um oh it's a top 25 matchup I'm going to go over 16 and a half uh Jackson Robinson over or under four three-pointers attempted I'm actually going to make this harder four and a half I was going to go over either way yeah I'll go over he just loves to shoot the ball he loves it dude D if I had shot like that be shoot all the time too definitely over uh Caleb loner welcome back to proo well he's back I don't know if it's a welcome back he's here do you think Bo fans cheer buo they're indifferent they forgot who he was I think they forgot who he is dude I I had a buddy asked me like a month ago before that Baylor game he's like where's loner I'm like huh well he's only averaging two and a half points a game how many minutes does he average I think like seven or eight he's averaging like two and a half rebounds when he was coming out of high school I thought he was the next thing he looked like the next thing he had the body and the hair for the next thing he does have the hair for it doesn't he can we get a picture of of Caleb loner yeah the Greek the Greek god the GRE God himself next to like the David Statue uh over or under Caleb three and a half points he averages under that yeah on the road I think he's going to try to play well in front of his old fans iess he tried to play hard when he was in probo I don't think he's not trying hard I do think he'll get like a mild a mild yeah I mean like from the fans like oh hey we remember that guy I'm not saying Caleb is not a good basketball player he he's better than a lot of guys in the world sounds like you're saying that I just think BYU knows what they're doing and he Aver is less than you're over under so taking the over is insane I'm going to take the over okay that's insane listen he's trying to play well for the fans he might have some family in town I don't know he's from Texas but does maybe he made some friends here that are going to come and show out he's going to try to play well can I give you a wild card one over or under 153 and a half points is that the line that's the line these teams uh average 80 and 78 points per game I was looking at the comparable stats it's pretty close like most of the way down the stats I feel like that over under is really low which is funny because cuz Vegas really inflates these numbers so 153 where do you land on that I was going to say earlier it seems like a themeing that when you talked about Iowa State having eight points in like 13 minutes it seems like a lot of these big 12 games start out like really slow like I would love to see the St second half versus first half scoring in the Big 12 I'm have to pull that for next week or something uh 153 so that's what uh 75 76 and a half points per team yeah yeah you got to feel like it's going to go over that you have to feel like it right have I gone over and everything though I'm pretty sure you have all right then I got to take the under for one of them I I actually like the under there a lot I actually love it um think it's like a slow Pac defensive game so uh yes I do so Iowa State in Houston last night their over under was 14 133 and a half well that's super low super low uh both two of the top defensive teams in the country it hit the over though did it it did um but after the first half you wouldn't have guess that that's what I'm saying the first half is so slow that's what I'm saying like even if it's slow tonight I do think it hits the over and I don't hate you going over on all five of them I don't know it's just something to think about gamble uh we talked a lot of Baylor I apologize hopefully we won we won when you're watching this so it feels a little bit better uh we'll be back here next week on Tuesday uh this has been the stlk and the UTA tub pod thanks for listening