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THAT INFORMATION, BUT THIS SHOULD BE A FULL INFORMATION AND SHOULD BE A FULL INFORMATION AND IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT IT IS. IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT IT IS. >> ALL RIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT. NOW TO THE EXTRAORDINARY AND NOW TO THE EXTRAORDINARY AND WHITE HOUSE TESTIFY "NEW YORK WHITE HOUSE TESTIFY "NEW YORK TIMES" EXPOSÉ THAT APPEARS TO TIMES" EXPOSÉ THAT APPEARS TO SHATTER THE PRESIDENT’S CLAIM OF SHATTER THE PRESIDENT’S CLAIM OF BEING A SELF-MADE BILLIONAIRE BEING A SELF-MADE BILLIONAIRE WHILE IMPLICATING HIM IN WHILE IMPLICATING HIM IN SKETCHY, POSSIBLY ILLEGAL TAX SKETCHY, POSSIBLY ILLEGAL TAX SCHEMES. SCHEMES. THE 19 MONTH LONG INVESTIGATION THE 19 MONTH LONG INVESTIGATION FOUND THAT TEMP RECEIVED TODAY’S FOUND THAT TEMP RECEIVED TODAY’S EQUIVALENT OF $400 MILLION FROM EQUIVALENT OF $400 MILLION FROM HIS FATHER’S REAL ESTATE EMPIRE HIS FATHER’S REAL ESTATE EMPIRE BEGINNING AS A TODDLER AND BEGINNING AS A TODDLER AND CONTINUING TO THIS DAY. CONTINUING TO THIS DAY. AS THE "TIMES" REPORTS MUCH OF AS THE "TIMES" REPORTS MUCH OF THE MONEY CAME FROM TRUMP THE MONEY CAME FROM TRUMP BECAUSE HE HELPED HIS PARENTS BECAUSE HE HELPED HIS PARENTS DODGE TAXES IN THE 1990s. DODGE TAXES IN THE 1990s. HE AND HIS SIBLINGS SET UP A HE AND HIS SIBLINGS SET UP A SHAM CORPORATION TO DISGUISE SHAM CORPORATION TO DISGUISE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN GIFTS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN GIFTS FROM THEIR PARENTS, RECORDS AND FROM THEIR PARENTS, RECORDS AND INTERVIEWS SHOW -- RECORDS INTERVIEWS SHOW -- RECORDS INDICATE THAT TRUMP HELPED HIS INDICATE THAT TRUMP HELPED HIS FATHER TAKE IMPROPER TAX FATHER TAKE IMPROPER TAX DEDUCTIONS WORTH MILLIONS MORE. DEDUCTIONS WORTH MILLIONS MORE. HE ALSO HELPED FORMULATE A HE ALSO HELPED FORMULATE A STRATEGY TO UNDERVALUE HIS STRATEGY TO UNDERVALUE HIS PARENTS’ REAL ESTATE HOLDINGS BY PARENTS’ REAL ESTATE HOLDINGS BY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON TAX RETURNS, SHARPLY REDUCING ON TAX RETURNS, SHARPLY REDUCING THE TAX BILL WHEN THOSE THE TAX BILL WHEN THOSE PROPERTIES WERE TRANSFERRED TO PROPERTIES WERE TRANSFERRED TO HIM AND HIS SIBLINGS. HIM AND HIS SIBLINGS. TAX EXPERTS TELL THE "TIMES" TAX EXPERTS TELL THE "TIMES" THAT THE PRESIDENT IS UNLIKELY THAT THE PRESIDENT IS UNLIKELY TO FACE CRIMINAL PROSECUTION FOR TO FACE CRIMINAL PROSECUTION FOR TAX EVASION BECAUSE THE STATUTE TAX EVASION BECAUSE THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS HAS PASSED ON ANY OF LIMITATIONS HAS PASSED ON ANY POSSIBLE WRONGDOING. POSSIBLE WRONGDOING. BUT AS THE "TIMES" REPORTS, BUT AS THE "TIMES" REPORTS, THERE IS NO TIME LIMIT ON CIVIL THERE IS NO TIME LIMIT ON CIVIL FINES FOR TAX FRAUDS. FINES FOR TAX FRAUDS. THE NEW YORK STATE DAMAGES THE NEW YORK STATE DAMAGES DEPARTMENT IS REVIEWING THE DEPARTMENT IS REVIEWING THE ALLEGATIONS. ALLEGATIONS. >> THE REPORT CONTINUES FRED >> THE REPORT CONTINUES FRED TRUMP WAS RELENTLESS AND TRUMP WAS RELENTLESS AND CREATIVE IN FINDING WAYS TO CREATIVE IN FINDING WAYS TO CHANNEL HIS WEALTH TO HIS CHANNEL HIS WEALTH TO HIS CHILDREN. CHILDREN. HE MADE DONALD NOT JUST HIS HE MADE DONALD NOT JUST HIS SALARIED EMPLOYEE BUT ALSO HIS SALARIED EMPLOYEE BUT ALSO HIS PROPERTY MANAGER, LANDLORD, PROPERTY MANAGER, LANDLORD, BANKER AND CONSULTANT. BANKER AND CONSULTANT. HE GAVE THEM LOAN AFTER LOAN, HE GAVE THEM LOAN AFTER LOAN, MANY NEVER REPAID. MANY NEVER REPAID. HE PROVIDED MONEY FOR DONALD’S HE PROVIDED MONEY FOR DONALD’S CARS, MONEY FOR HIS EMPLOYEES, CARS, MONEY FOR HIS EMPLOYEES, MONEY FOR HIS FIRST MANHATTAN MONEY FOR HIS FIRST MANHATTAN OFFICES. OFFICES. HE GAVE HIM THREE TRUST FUNDS, HE GAVE HIM THREE TRUST FUNDS, HE GAVE HIM SHARES IN MULTIPLE HE GAVE HIM SHARES IN MULTIPLE PARTNERSHIPS, HE GAVE HIM PARTNERSHIPS, HE GAVE HIM $10,000 CHRISTMAS CHECKS AND HE $10,000 CHRISTMAS CHECKS AND HE GAVE HIM LAUNDRY REVENUE FROM GAVE HIM LAUNDRY REVENUE FROM HIS BUILDINGS. HIS BUILDINGS. ACCORDING TO THE INVESTIGATION ACCORDING TO THE INVESTIGATION TRUMP WAS EARNING $200,000 IN TRUMP WAS EARNING $200,000 IN TODAY’S DOLLARS BY AGE THREE AND TODAY’S DOLLARS BY AGE THREE AND WAS A MILLIONAIRE BY THE AGE OF WAS A MILLIONAIRE BY THE AGE OF EIGHT. EIGHT. BY THE TIME DONALD WAS 17 HIS BY THE TIME DONALD WAS 17 HIS FATHER HAD GIVEN HIM PART FATHER HAD GIVEN HIM PART OWNERSHIP OF A 52-UNIT APARTMENT OWNERSHIP OF A 52-UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING. BUILDING. ONCE HE GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE ONCE HE GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE THE TIMES FOUND TRUMP WAS THE TIMES FOUND TRUMP WAS RECEIVING THE EQUIVALENT OF A RECEIVING THE EQUIVALENT OF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR FROM HIS MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR FROM HIS DAD. DAD. THAT MONEY REPORTEDLY INCREASED THAT MONEY REPORTEDLY INCREASED OVER TIME TO MORE THAN $5 OVER TIME TO MORE THAN $5 MILLION A YEAR IN HIS 40s AND MILLION A YEAR IN HIS 40s AND HIS 50s. HIS 50s. ACCORDING TO THE TIMES THE ACCORDING TO THE TIMES THE FINDINGS ARE BASED ON INTERVIEWS FINDINGS ARE BASED ON INTERVIEWS WITH FRED TRUMP’S FORMER WITH FRED TRUMP’S FORMER EMPLOYEES, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYEES, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PAGES OF CONFIDENTIAL RECORDS, PAGES OF CONFIDENTIAL RECORDS, BANK STATEMENTS, FINANCIAL BANK STATEMENTS, FINANCIAL AUDITS, ACCOUNTING LEDGERS, CASH AUDITS, ACCOUNTING LEDGERS, CASH DISBURSEMENT REPORTS, INVOICES DISBURSEMENT REPORTS, INVOICES AND CANCELED CHECKS AS WELL AS AND CANCELED CHECKS AS WELL AS PUBLIC RECORDS LIKE MORTGAGES, PUBLIC RECORDS LIKE MORTGAGES, DEEDS AND CIVIL COURT FILES. DEEDS AND CIVIL COURT FILES. NBC NEWS HAS NOT INDEPENDENTLY NBC NEWS HAS NOT INDEPENDENTLY SEEN THOSE DOCUMENTS OR SEEN THOSE DOCUMENTS OR CONFIRMED THE TOTALITY OF THE CONFIRMED THE TOTALITY OF THE TIMES REPORTING. TIMES REPORTING. NICK CONFESSORE, FOR THE RECORD NICK CONFESSORE, FOR THE RECORD DONALD TRUMP’S CAMP SAYS THE DONALD TRUMP’S CAMP SAYS THE STORY IS FALSE AND HIGHLY STORY IS FALSE AND HIGHLY DEFAMATORY BUT DOES SAY THE TAX DEFAMATORY BUT DOES SAY THE TAX MATTERS WERE HANDLED BY OTHER MATTERS WERE HANDLED BY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE TRUMP FAMILY AND MEMBERS OF THE TRUMP FAMILY AND TAX LAWYERS, NOT BY DONALD TAX LAWYERS, NOT BY DONALD HIMSELF. HIMSELF. >> NO, RIGHT. >> NO, RIGHT. >> SO, NO, IN FACT, TRUMP WAS >> SO, NO, IN FACT, TRUMP WAS DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THE TAX DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THE TAX PLANNING, THE ESTATE PLANNING PLANNING, THE ESTATE PLANNING WITH HIS FATHER, HE WAS PART OF WITH HIS FATHER, HE WAS PART OF ALL OF THESE SCHEMES AND THE ALL OF THESE SCHEMES AND THE REASON IS THAT THEY BENEFITED REASON IS THAT THEY BENEFITED HIM CHIEFLY. HIM CHIEFLY. WHAT YOU’RE SEEING HERE IS WHAT WHAT YOU’RE SEEING HERE IS WHAT WE SEE A LOT IN AMERICA IN THIS WE SEE A LOT IN AMERICA IN THIS COUNTRY WHICH IS THE COUNTRY WHICH IS THE DETERMINATION OF VERY WEALTHY DETERMINATION OF VERY WEALTHY PEOPLE TO PASS THEIR FORTUNES ON PEOPLE TO PASS THEIR FORTUNES ON TO THEIR KIDS UNTAXED AND THIS TO THEIR KIDS UNTAXED AND THIS FAMILY WAS EXTRAORDINARILY FAMILY WAS EXTRAORDINARILY CREATIVE IN HOW THEY DID IT. CREATIVE IN HOW THEY DID IT. I THINK THE PART THAT STUCK OUT I THINK THE PART THAT STUCK OUT TO ME MOST IN THIS AMAZING TO ME MOST IN THIS AMAZING REPORT BY COLLEAGUES OF MINE WAS REPORT BY COLLEAGUES OF MINE WAS THAT THIS IS A MAN, DONALD THAT THIS IS A MAN, DONALD TRUMP, WHO HAS BEEN ON THE TRUMP, WHO HAS BEEN ON THE RECORD LYING ABOUT THE SIZE OF RECORD LYING ABOUT THE SIZE OF HIS FORTUNE, BUT THE WAY HE HIS FORTUNE, BUT THE WAY HE ACCUMULATED HIS FORTUNE WAS ACCUMULATED HIS FORTUNE WAS LYING IN THE OTHER DIRECTION LYING IN THE OTHER DIRECTION ABOUT THE VALUE OF REAL ESTATE ABOUT THE VALUE OF REAL ESTATE ASSETS. ASSETS. WHAT THEY DID TIME AND TIME WHAT THEY DID TIME AND TIME AGAIN WAS SYSTEMATICALLY AND AGAIN WAS SYSTEMATICALLY AND GROSSLY JUST UNDERVALUE THE GROSSLY JUST UNDERVALUE THE BUILDINGS OWNED BY THE TRUMP BUILDINGS OWNED BY THE TRUMP FAMILY AND SAY THAT THEY WEREN’T FAMILY AND SAY THAT THEY WEREN’T WORTH ANYTHING AND THEN PASS WORTH ANYTHING AND THEN PASS THEM TO OTHER PEOPLE IN THE THEM TO OTHER PEOPLE IN THE FAMILY, PASS THEM FROM TRUMP SR. FAMILY, PASS THEM FROM TRUMP SR. TO DONALD TRUMP. TO DONALD TRUMP. >> THERE’S ONE OTHER ASPECT THAT >> THERE’S ONE OTHER ASPECT THAT STUCK OUT. STUCK OUT. THERE WAS SO MUCH IN HERE, IT’S THERE WAS SO MUCH IN HERE, IT’S JUST AN INCREDIBLE PIECE OF JUST AN INCREDIBLE PIECE OF JOURNALISM. JOURNALISM. AND, JOE, AS AN ASIDE, I MEAN, AND, JOE, AS AN ASIDE, I MEAN, WITH HE NO HE THAT MR. TRUMP WITH HE NO HE THAT MR. TRUMP LOVES TO APPLY NICKNAMES TO LOVES TO APPLY NICKNAMES TO PEOPLE, HE ALWAYS HAS THROUGHOUT PEOPLE, HE ALWAYS HAS THROUGHOUT HIS CAMPAIGN AND EVERYTHING. HIS CAMPAIGN AND EVERYTHING. WE NOW HAVE A NICKNAME FOR THE WE NOW HAVE A NICKNAME FOR THE PRESIDENT, I WOULD SUGGEST, AND PRESIDENT, I WOULD SUGGEST, AND IT WOULD BE THANKS, DAD. IT WOULD BE THANKS, DAD. IT’S THANKS, DAD, TRUMP. IT’S THANKS, DAD, TRUMP. BUT, KNOW, THIS IS INTERESTING BUT, KNOW, THIS IS INTERESTING AND I FOUND IT INTERESTING. AND I FOUND IT INTERESTING. WAY DOWN IN THIS PIECE AND IT WAY DOWN IN THIS PIECE AND IT DESERVES TO BE READ BY EVERYONE, DESERVES TO BE READ BY EVERYONE, IT GETS TO WHO DONALD TRUMP IT GETS TO WHO DONALD TRUMP REALLY IS. REALLY IS. IT BUILDS UP THE CASE AND POINTS IT BUILDS UP THE CASE AND POINTS OUT HOW MANY TIMES TRUMP’S OUT HOW MANY TIMES TRUMP’S FATHER, FRED, AFFORDED HIM THE FATHER, FRED, AFFORDED HIM THE OPPORTUNITY, GAVE HIM ALL SORTS OPPORTUNITY, GAVE HIM ALL SORTS OF MONEY TO BAIL HIM OUT OF OF MONEY TO BAIL HIM OUT OF CERTAIN DIFFICULT FINANCIAL CERTAIN DIFFICULT FINANCIAL SITUATIONS THAT DONALD TRUMP HAD SITUATIONS THAT DONALD TRUMP HAD BURIED HIMSELF IN. BURIED HIMSELF IN. HERE IS THE PARAGRAPH: BUT OVER HERE IS THE PARAGRAPH: BUT OVER TIME AS DONALD TRUMP CAREENED TIME AS DONALD TRUMP CAREENED FROM ONE FINANCIAL DISASTER TO FROM ONE FINANCIAL DISASTER TO THE NEXT, HIS FATHER FOUND WAYS THE NEXT, HIS FATHER FOUND WAYS TO GIVE HIM SUBSTANTIALLY MORE TO GIVE HIM SUBSTANTIALLY MORE MONEY, RECORDS SHOW. MONEY, RECORDS SHOW. EVEN SO, IN 1990 ACCORDING TO EVEN SO, IN 1990 ACCORDING TO PREVIOUSLY SECRET DEPOSITIONS PREVIOUSLY SECRET DEPOSITIONS MR. TRUMP TRIED TO HAVE HIS MR. TRUMP TRIED TO HAVE HIS FATHER’S WILL REWRITTEN IN A WAY FATHER’S WILL REWRITTEN IN A WAY THAT FRED TRUMP ALARMED AND THAT FRED TRUMP ALARMED AND ANGERED FEARED COULD RESULT IN ANGERED FEARED COULD RESULT IN HIS EMPIRES BEING USED TO BAIL HIS EMPIRES BEING USED TO BAIL OUT HIS SON’S FAILING OUT HIS SON’S FAILING BUSINESSES. BUSINESSES. SO IN ADDITION TO BEING A TAX SO IN ADDITION TO BEING A TAX CHEAT, A FRAUD AND A CROOK, WE CHEAT, A FRAUD AND A CROOK, WE FIND OUT FROM "THE NEW YORK FIND OUT FROM "THE NEW YORK TIMES" IN ALL OF THIS MATERIAL TIMES" IN ALL OF THIS MATERIAL THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED THAT THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS ALSO A SCHEMING DONALD TRUMP WAS ALSO A SCHEMING SON. SON. >> WHO WAS ACCORDING TO THE >> WHO WAS ACCORDING TO THE REPORT SCHEMING TO CHANGE HIS REPORT SCHEMING TO CHANGE HIS FATHER’S WILL TO BAIL HIMSELF FATHER’S WILL TO BAIL HIMSELF OUT IN A WAY THAT SCARED HIS OUT IN A WAY THAT SCARED HIS FATHER. FATHER. I MEAN, MORE THAN A FEW PEOPLE I MEAN, MORE THAN A FEW PEOPLE HAVE GONE TO JAIL FOR THAT. HAVE GONE TO JAIL FOR THAT. EDDIE GLAUDE, THIS DOESN’T EDDIE GLAUDE, THIS DOESN’T REALLY SURPRISE, I’M SURE, REALLY SURPRISE, I’M SURE, DOESN’T SURPRISE YOU, DOESN’T DOESN’T SURPRISE YOU, DOESN’T SURPRISE MANY PEOPLE THAT THE SURPRISE MANY PEOPLE THAT THE ENTIRE MYTH THAT DROUMPD HAS ENTIRE MYTH THAT DROUMPD HAS TRIED TO CREATE AROUND HIMSELF, TRIED TO CREATE AROUND HIMSELF, THIS BILLIONAIRE DEALMAKER WHO THIS BILLIONAIRE DEALMAKER WHO STARTED WITH VERY LITTLE, SAID STARTED WITH VERY LITTLE, SAID IT WAS HARD, EVERY STEP OF THE IT WAS HARD, EVERY STEP OF THE WAY HIS LIFE HAS BEEN HARD, IT’S WAY HIS LIFE HAS BEEN HARD, IT’S JUST HIS ENTIRE LIFE STORY IS JUST HIS ENTIRE LIFE STORY IS BUILT ON A LIE. BUILT ON A LIE. THIS KID WAS TREATED LIKE THE THIS KID WAS TREATED LIKE THE QUEEN’S VERSION OF RITCHIE RICH, QUEEN’S VERSION OF RITCHIE RICH, HE’S GOT, YOU KNOW, MILLIONS OF HE’S GOT, YOU KNOW, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BY THE TIME HE’S EIGHT DOLLARS BY THE TIME HE’S EIGHT YEARS OLD BECAUSE DADDY GAVE HIM YEARS OLD BECAUSE DADDY GAVE HIM THE MONEY, DADDY KEPT POURING THE MONEY, DADDY KEPT POURING MORE MONEY INTO HIS BANK MORE MONEY INTO HIS BANK ACCOUNTS WHEN HE GOT IN TROUBLE, ACCOUNTS WHEN HE GOT IN TROUBLE, WHEN HE PROVED THAT HE ACTUALLY WHEN HE PROVED THAT HE ACTUALLY WASN’T A GOOD BUSINESSMAN, AND WASN’T A GOOD BUSINESSMAN, AND THEN FINALLY GOES TO ATLANTIC THEN FINALLY GOES TO ATLANTIC CITY AND COMPLETELY BLOWS ALL OF CITY AND COMPLETELY BLOWS ALL OF HIS FATHER’S MONEY, THE HUNDREDS HIS FATHER’S MONEY, THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT HIS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT HIS FATHER TRANSFERRED TO HIM, GOES FATHER TRANSFERRED TO HIM, GOES BANKRUPT, $9 BILLION BY HIS OWN BANKRUPT, $9 BILLION BY HIS OWN CLAIMS, BANKRUPT $9 BILLION AND CLAIMS, BANKRUPT $9 BILLION AND CHANCES ARE VERY GOOD THAT HE’S CHANCES ARE VERY GOOD THAT HE’S EXAGGERATING WHAT HE’S WORTH NOW EXAGGERATING WHAT HE’S WORTH NOW AND HE’S PROBABLY WORTH LESS AND HE’S PROBABLY WORTH LESS THAN HE WAS WHEN HIS FATHER GAVE THAN HE WAS WHEN HIS FATHER GAVE HIM ALL THAT MONEY. HIM ALL THAT MONEY. >> YES, JOE, THREE PICK POINTS. >> YES, JOE, THREE PICK POINTS. ONE, WE KNOW THAT HE WASN’T BORN ONE, WE KNOW THAT HE WASN’T BORN WITH GOLD SPOON IN HIS MOUTH BUT WITH GOLD SPOON IN HIS MOUTH BUT A PLATINUM SPOON IN HIS MOUTH A PLATINUM SPOON IN HIS MOUTH AND HE BLEW HIS INHERITANCE IN AND HE BLEW HIS INHERITANCE IN SORTS OF WAYS. SORTS OF WAYS. I’M REMINDED OF HERMAN I’M REMINDED OF HERMAN MILLVALE’S 1867 NOVEL "THE MILLVALE’S 1867 NOVEL "THE CONFIDENCE MAN" AND THAT’S WHAT CONFIDENCE MAN" AND THAT’S WHAT DONALD TRUMP IS BECAUSE HE DONALD TRUMP IS BECAUSE HE EVOKED THE PHRASE A WHILE BACK. EVOKED THE PHRASE A WHILE BACK. HIS OWN GEOGRAPHY, THE WAY IN HIS OWN GEOGRAPHY, THE WAY IN WHICH HE PRESENTS HIMSELF, HE IS WHICH HE PRESENTS HIMSELF, HE IS A CAN HAVE DANCE MAN SELLING A A CAN HAVE DANCE MAN SELLING A PARTICULAR KIND OF SNAKE OIL TO PARTICULAR KIND OF SNAKE OIL TO THE COUNTRY AND ANYONE WHO MIGHT THE COUNTRY AND ANYONE WHO MIGHT BELIEVE HIM. BELIEVE HIM. WHAT’S INTERESTING IN THE "NEW WHAT’S INTERESTING IN THE "NEW YORK TIMES" PIECE, THE TIMES YORK TIMES" PIECE, THE TIMES EVEN ADMITS IT WAS COMPLICIT IN EVEN ADMITS IT WAS COMPLICIT IN BUILDING THIS IMAGE OF HIM. BUILDING THIS IMAGE OF HIM. THAT HE SOLD THIS TO THEM AND TO THAT HE SOLD THIS TO THEM AND TO OTHER PEOPLE IN THE PRESS. OTHER PEOPLE IN THE PRESS. AND LASTLY WHAT IS, I THINK, AND LASTLY WHAT IS, I THINK, IMPORTANT HERE, JOE, IS THAT WE IMPORTANT HERE, JOE, IS THAT WE SEE THIS HISTORY, THIS PATTERN, SEE THIS HISTORY, THIS PATTERN, IT’S ALMOST INHERITED TAX FRAUD. IT’S ALMOST INHERITED TAX FRAUD. TAX EVASION. TAX EVASION. A KIND OF CROOKEDNESS AS MIKE A KIND OF CROOKEDNESS AS MIKE LAID OUT, WITH HE SEE IT PASSED LAID OUT, WITH HE SEE IT PASSED ON TO HIM, WHICH MEANS IT’S EVEN ON TO HIM, WHICH MEANS IT’S EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE SHOULD MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE SHOULD SEE HIS TAX FORMS, RIGHT, SEE HIS TAX FORMS, RIGHT, BECAUSE MORE THAN LIKELY WHAT HE BECAUSE MORE THAN LIKELY WHAT HE LEARNED FROM HIS DAD, WE WILL LEARNED FROM HIS DAD, WE WILL FIND HE DID HIMSELF AND HE FIND HE DID HIMSELF AND HE CONTINUES TO DO. CONTINUES TO DO. >> SOME WOULD CALL THIS REALLY >> SOME WOULD CALL THIS REALLY IT MATCHES THE PROFILE OF A MAN IT MATCHES THE PROFILE OF A MAN WHO HAS GROWN UP WITH NO WHO HAS GROWN UP WITH NO RESPONSIBILITY, JUST AWASH IN RESPONSIBILITY, JUST AWASH IN CASH, NO SENSE OF RIGHT AND CASH, NO SENSE OF RIGHT AND WRONG AND BRINGS HIS SHAM TO THE WRONG AND BRINGS HIS SHAM TO THE PRESIDENCY WHERE ULTIMATELY PRESIDENCY WHERE ULTIMATELY POSSIBLY THE EMPEROR WILL HAVE POSSIBLY THE EMPEROR WILL HAVE NO CLOTHES. NO CLOTHES. AN ATTORNEY FOR THE PRESIDENT AN ATTORNEY FOR THE PRESIDENT RELEASED THE FOLLOWING RELEASED THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT, "THE NEW YORK STATEMENT, "THE NEW YORK TIMES" -- WELL, BECAUSE -- YOU TIMES" -- WELL, BECAUSE -- YOU KNOW WHAT I’M SAYING. KNOW WHAT I’M SAYING. >> WE’RE LAUGHING AT JOE’S >> WE’RE LAUGHING AT JOE’S REACTION TO YOUR TRUE COMMENT. REACTION TO YOUR TRUE COMMENT. >> IT’S TRUE. >> IT’S TRUE. >> WILLIE AND I ARE GOING TO >> WILLIE AND I ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT THIS HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT THIS WEEKEND AT THE HOLIDAY INN WHILE WEEKEND AT THE HOLIDAY INN WHILE WE’RE SMOKING. WE’RE SMOKING. >> WE WILL NEED A FEW EXTRA >> WE WILL NEED A FEW EXTRA CARTONS IN THOSE CAMEL CARTONS IN THOSE CAMEL UNFILTERED. UNFILTERED. >> WE’RE TALKING ABOUT MELVILLE >> WE’RE TALKING ABOUT MELVILLE AND NOT THE MELVILLE BOOK YOU AND NOT THE MELVILLE BOOK YOU THINK BUT "THE CONFIDENCE MAN." THINK BUT "THE CONFIDENCE MAN." >> "THE NEW YORK TIMES" >> "THE NEW YORK TIMES" ALLEGATIONS OF FRAUD AND TAX ALLEGATIONS OF FRAUD AND TAX EVASION ARE 100% FALSE THE WHITE EVASION ARE 100% FALSE THE WHITE HOUSE SAYS AND HIGHLY HOUSE SAYS AND HIGHLY DEFAMATORY. DEFAMATORY. IT WAS HIS ATTORNEY. IT WAS HIS ATTORNEY. THERE WAS NO FRAUD OR TAX THERE WAS NO FRAUD OR TAX EVASION BY ANYONE. EVASION BY ANYONE. THE FACTS UPON WHICH THE TIMES THE FACTS UPON WHICH THE TIMES BASES ITS FALSE ALLEGATIONS ARE BASES ITS FALSE ALLEGATIONS ARE EXTREMELY INACCURATE. EXTREMELY INACCURATE. ALL ESTATE MATTERS WERE HANDLED ALL ESTATE MATTERS WERE HANDLED BY LICENSED ATTORNEYS, LICENSED BY LICENSED ATTORNEYS, LICENSED CPAs AND LICENSED REAL ESTATE CPAs AND LICENSED REAL ESTATE APPRAISERS WHO FOLLOWED ALL LAWS APPRAISERS WHO FOLLOWED ALL LAWS AND RULES STRICTLY. AND RULES STRICTLY. >> HOLD ON. >> HOLD ON. ISN’T THAT LIKE -- MIKA, A ISN’T THAT LIKE -- MIKA, A LICENSED THIS, LICENSED -- LICENSED THIS, LICENSED -- DOESN’T MEAN THEY WEREN’T DOESN’T MEAN THEY WEREN’T CHEATING FOR HIM. CHEATING FOR HIM. WHICH WHITE HOUSE PERSON HAD WHICH WHITE HOUSE PERSON HAD SAID THAT SOMETHING WAS TRUE SAID THAT SOMETHING WAS TRUE BECAUSE THEY SENT IT CERTIFIED BECAUSE THEY SENT IT CERTIFIED MAIL, LIKE THE FIRST WEEK. MAIL, LIKE THE FIRST WEEK. >> REMEMBER HIS DOCTOR, THE >> REMEMBER HIS DOCTOR, THE GUY -- THE CRAZY -- GUY -- THE CRAZY -- >> CERTIFIED DOCTOR. >> CERTIFIED DOCTOR. CERTIFIED DOCTOR SAID HE WAS THE CERTIFIED DOCTOR SAID HE WAS THE HEALTHIEST GUY EVER. HEALTHIEST GUY EVER. >> EXACTLY. >> EXACTLY. IT’S ALL SO CERTIFIED. IT’S ALL SO CERTIFIED. THE STATEMENT CONTINUES: THE STATEMENT CONTINUES: PRESIDENT TRUMP HAD VIRTUALLY NO PRESIDENT TRUMP HAD VIRTUALLY NO INVOLVEMENT WHATSOEVER WITH INVOLVEMENT WHATSOEVER WITH THESE MATTERS. THESE MATTERS. THE AFFAIRS WERE HANDLED BY THE AFFAIRS WERE HANDLED BY OTHER TRUMP FAMILY MEMBERS WHO OTHER TRUMP FAMILY MEMBERS WHO WERE NOT EXPERTS THEMSELVES AND, WERE NOT EXPERTS THEMSELVES AND, THEREFORE, RELIED ENTIRELY UPON THEREFORE, RELIED ENTIRELY UPON THE AFOREMENTIONED LICENSED THE AFOREMENTIONED LICENSED PROFESSIONALS. PROFESSIONALS. SHOULD THE TIMES STATE OR IMPLY SHOULD THE TIMES STATE OR IMPLY THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP PARTICIPATED IN FRAUD, TAX PARTICIPATED IN FRAUD, TAX EVASION OR ANY OTHER CRIME, IT EVASION OR ANY OTHER CRIME, IT WILL BE EXPOSING ITSELF TO -- WILL BE EXPOSING ITSELF TO -- OH, HE IS HE GOING TO SUE OH, HE IS HE GOING TO SUE THEM -- TO SUBSTANTIAL LIABILITY THEM -- TO SUBSTANTIAL LIABILITY AND DAMAGES FOR DEFAMATION. AND DAMAGES FOR DEFAMATION. WHERE HAVE WE HEARD THAT BEFORE? WHERE HAVE WE HEARD THAT BEFORE? GO AHEAD, MIKE. GO AHEAD, MIKE. >> DAMAGED GOLDMAN, LET ME ASK >> DAMAGED GOLDMAN, LET ME ASK YOU, DONALD TRUMP’S SISTER MARY YOU, DONALD TRUMP’S SISTER MARY ANN IS A SITTING FEDERAL JUDGE. ANN IS A SITTING FEDERAL JUDGE. WHAT IF HER NAME IS ON ANY OF WHAT IF HER NAME IS ON ANY OF THESE TAX RETURNS THAT HAVE BEEN THESE TAX RETURNS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED OVER THE YEARS THAT FILED OVER THE YEARS THAT CONSTITUTE FRAUD? CONSTITUTE FRAUD? >> WELL, WE WOULD RUN INTO A >> WELL, WE WOULD RUN INTO A SITUATION WHERE THE ONLY WAY SITUATION WHERE THE ONLY WAY THAT A JUDGE CAN BE REMOVED IS THAT A JUDGE CAN BE REMOVED IS TECHNICALLY THROUGH IMPEACHMENT, TECHNICALLY THROUGH IMPEACHMENT, BUT IF THERE IS MISCONDUCT BY BUT IF THERE IS MISCONDUCT BY MARY ANNE TRUMP AND WE DON’T MARY ANNE TRUMP AND WE DON’T KNOW AT ALL WHETHER THERE IS AT KNOW AT ALL WHETHER THERE IS AT THIS POINT, THEN IT WOULD BE THIS POINT, THEN IT WOULD BE REFERRED TO A JUDICIAL COMMITTEE REFERRED TO A JUDICIAL COMMITTEE TO LOOK INTO IT IN ORDER TO TO LOOK INTO IT IN ORDER TO ASSESS IT. ASSESS IT. WHAT WE’RE SEEING IN THIS PIECE, WHAT WE’RE SEEING IN THIS PIECE, I THINK, THAT’S INTERESTING IS I THINK, THAT’S INTERESTING IS YOU GUYS HAVE REALLY PINPOINTED YOU GUYS HAVE REALLY PINPOINTED SOME OF THE HYPOCRISY OF DONALD SOME OF THE HYPOCRISY OF DONALD TRUMP BEING A SELF-MADE MAN ON TRUMP BEING A SELF-MADE MAN ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL WHEREAS IN THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL WHEREAS IN REALITY HIS FATHER WAS HIS REALITY HIS FATHER WAS HIS LIFELINE FOR ALL OF HIS POOR LIFELINE FOR ALL OF HIS POOR BUSINESS DEALINGS. BUSINESS DEALINGS. BUT FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE YOU BUT FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE YOU SEE OVERINFLATED INVOICES, LIKE SEE OVERINFLATED INVOICES, LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE A CONTRACTOR GIVE YOU WOULD HAVE A CONTRACTOR GIVE AN INVOICE TO A SUBCONTRACTOR AN INVOICE TO A SUBCONTRACTOR AND OVERINFLATE THE WORK SO THAT AND OVERINFLATE THE WORK SO THAT THEY COULD GET A KICKBACK. THEY COULD GET A KICKBACK. THAT’S ESSENTIALLY WHAT SOME OF THAT’S ESSENTIALLY WHAT SOME OF THE ALLEGATIONS ARE. THE ALLEGATIONS ARE. THERE ARE BOGUS LOANS THAT IS A THERE ARE BOGUS LOANS THAT IS A HALLMARK OF FRAUD WHERE YOU SAY HALLMARK OF FRAUD WHERE YOU SAY I WILL GIVE YOU A LOAN AND THEN I WILL GIVE YOU A LOAN AND THEN IT JUST IS NEVER PAID BACK, IT’S IT JUST IS NEVER PAID BACK, IT’S NOT ACTUALLY A LOAN. NOT ACTUALLY A LOAN. THERE’S A STORY ABOUT HIS FATHER THERE’S A STORY ABOUT HIS FATHER DUMPING $3.3 MILLION OF CASINO DUMPING $3.3 MILLION OF CASINO CHIPS AT ONE OF HIS CASINOS TO CHIPS AT ONE OF HIS CASINOS TO GIVE HIM ENOUGH OPERATING CASH GIVE HIM ENOUGH OPERATING CASH TO MEET ALL OF HIS NEEDS. TO MEET ALL OF HIS NEEDS. AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT’S AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT’S REALLY INTERESTING AND YOU REALLY INTERESTING AND YOU POINTED OUT EARLIER IS THERE ARE POINTED OUT EARLIER IS THERE ARE DIFFERENT REPRESENTATIONS OF THE DIFFERENT REPRESENTATIONS OF THE VALUE OF HIS PROPERTIES IN VALUE OF HIS PROPERTIES IN OFFICIAL FILINGS. OFFICIAL FILINGS. SO THEY UNDERVALUE IT WHEN IT’S SO THEY UNDERVALUE IT WHEN IT’S CONVENIENT AND THEN THEY CONVENIENT AND THEN THEY OVERVALUE THE SAME PROPERTY WHEN OVERVALUE THE SAME PROPERTY WHEN IT’S CONVENIENT AS WELL AND THAT IT’S CONVENIENT AS WELL AND THAT IS -- THAT’S ANOTHER HALLMARK OF IS -- THAT’S ANOTHER HALLMARK OF FRAUD. FRAUD. NONE OF THIS CAN BE CHARGED NONE OF THIS CAN BE CHARGED CRIMINALLY BECAUSE IT’S STATUTE CRIMINALLY BECAUSE IT’S STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS, BUT CERTAINLY OF LIMITATIONS, BUT CERTAINLY THE IRS COULD GO BACK AND LOOK THE IRS COULD GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT FROM A CIVIL PERSPECTIVE. AT IT FROM A CIVIL PERSPECTIVE. >> SO YOU’VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF >> SO YOU’VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK ON TRUMP SUPPORTERS AND, IN WORK ON TRUMP SUPPORTERS AND, IN FACT, TRUMP VOTERS STEADFAST FACT, TRUMP VOTERS STEADFAST SUPPORT FOR DONALD J. TRUMP SUPPORT FOR DONALD J. TRUMP REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY MAY SEE REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY MAY SEE IN THE NEWS. IN THE NEWS. THIS IS THE SORT OF STORY THAT THIS IS THE SORT OF STORY THAT MIGHT IMPACT PAST PRESIDENTS, MIGHT IMPACT PAST PRESIDENTS, BUT WILL IT EVEN RAISE AN BUT WILL IT EVEN RAISE AN EYEBROW IN TRUMP COUNTRY? EYEBROW IN TRUMP COUNTRY? >> WELL, I THINK WHAT WE REALLY >> WELL, I THINK WHAT WE REALLY SEE IS THAT THIS IS ABOUT THE SEE IS THAT THIS IS ABOUT THE MYTH OF THE AMERICAN DREAM AND MYTH OF THE AMERICAN DREAM AND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WILL LOOK THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WILL LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, WELL, WOULDN’T AT THIS AND SAY, WELL, WOULDN’T ANYBODY WANT THEIR DAD TO GIVE ANYBODY WANT THEIR DAD TO GIVE THEM MILLIONS OF DOLLARS? THEM MILLIONS OF DOLLARS? ISN’T THIS WHAT YOU WANT FOR ISN’T THIS WHAT YOU WANT FOR YOUR CHILDREN, FOR YOU TO BE YOUR CHILDREN, FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO FUND THEM AND TO HAVE ABLE TO FUND THEM AND TO HAVE THEIR DREAMS COME TRUE AND WHEN THEIR DREAMS COME TRUE AND WHEN THEY MESS UP TO HELP THEM OUT THEY MESS UP TO HELP THEM OUT AND BE THE SAFETY NET FOR YOUR AND BE THE SAFETY NET FOR YOUR CHILD. CHILD. SO I THINK IN SOME WAYS I READ SO I THINK IN SOME WAYS I READ THAT STORY AND THOUGHT THIS THAT STORY AND THOUGHT THIS WOULD IN SOME WAYS WANT TO BE WOULD IN SOME WAYS WANT TO BE WHAT WE THINK THE AMERICAN DREAM WHAT WE THINK THE AMERICAN DREAM IS. IS. THE PROBLEM IS THAT PRESIDENT THE PROBLEM IS THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP BUILT THIS ENTIRE BRAND ON TRUMP BUILT THIS ENTIRE BRAND ON THIS IDEA THAT HE PULLED HIMSELF THIS IDEA THAT HE PULLED HIMSELF UP BY HIS BOOT STRAPS AND SO UP BY HIS BOOT STRAPS AND SO MANY OF HIS SUPPORTERS SAY MANY OF HIS SUPPORTERS SAY THAT’S WHAT’S SO APPEALING TO THAT’S WHAT’S SO APPEALING TO HIM, THE FACT THAT I COULD BE HIM, THE FACT THAT I COULD BE DONALD TRUMP, THAT ANYBODY COULD DONALD TRUMP, THAT ANYBODY COULD BE DONALD TRUMP, WHEN IN FACT BE DONALD TRUMP, WHEN IN FACT ANYBODY CAN’T BE DONALD TRUMP ANYBODY CAN’T BE DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE YOU WOULD NEED A PARENT BECAUSE YOU WOULD NEED A PARENT TO BE FUNNELING MONEY TO YOU TO BE FUNNELING MONEY TO YOU BACK TO BACK. BACK TO BACK. I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT’S I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT’S IMPORTANT IS THIS IS SOMEONE WHO IMPORTANT IS THIS IS SOMEONE WHO IS NOW IN CHARGE OF POLICY. IS NOW IN CHARGE OF POLICY. HIS ADMINISTRATION HAS SAID HIS ADMINISTRATION HAS SAID THROUGH BEN CARSON THAT POVERTY THROUGH BEN CARSON THAT POVERTY IS A STATE OF MIND AND THEY ARE IS A STATE OF MIND AND THEY ARE MAKING POLICIES, REWRITING THE MAKING POLICIES, REWRITING THE TAX CODE, DOING ALL THESE THINGS TAX CODE, DOING ALL THESE THINGS IN THIS WAY ANYTHING THAT PEOPLE IN THIS WAY ANYTHING THAT PEOPLE ARE SOMEHOW NOT WORKING HARD ARE SOMEHOW NOT WORKING HARD ENOUGH AND THAT’S WHY YOU DIDN’T ENOUGH AND THAT’S WHY YOU DIDN’T BECOME DONALD TRUMP WHEN IN BECOME DONALD TRUMP WHEN IN REALITY IT’S BECAUSE YOUR DAD REALITY IT’S BECAUSE YOUR DAD DIDN’T GIVE YOU MILLIONS OF DIDN’T GIVE YOU MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WHENNER YOU WERE EIGHT DOLLARS WHENNER YOU WERE EIGHT YEARS OLD AND SOME PEOPLE WHEN YEARS OLD AND SOME PEOPLE WHEN THEY GO TO YALE THEIR THEY GO TO YALE THEIR GRANDFATHER DIDN’T GO TO YALE GRANDFATHER DIDN’T GO TO YALE LIKE BRETT KAVANAUGH AND AS A LIKE BRETT KAVANAUGH AND AS A RESULT NOT EVERYONE MIGHT GET RESULT NOT EVERYONE MIGHT GET INTO YALE BECAUSE THERE’S INTO YALE BECAUSE THERE’S OBVIOUSLY THOUGHTS GIVEN TO OBVIOUSLY THOUGHTS GIVEN TO LEGACY STUDENTS. LEGACY STUDENTS. SO WHAT YOU HAVE IS A LOT OF SO WHAT YOU HAVE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY THINKING PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY THINKING I WANT TO BE LIKE DONALD TRUMP I WANT TO BE LIKE DONALD TRUMP AND THAT’S WHY I WANT TO FOLLOW AND THAT’S WHY I WANT TO FOLLOW HIM, BUT IN REALITY YOU HAVE TO HIM, BUT IN REALITY YOU HAVE TO DO A LOT OF STUFF TO DO THAT. DO A LOT OF STUFF TO DO THAT. >> ANOTHER PROBLEM, I THINK, >> ANOTHER PROBLEM, I THINK, POLITICALLY IT MAY NOT RAISE ITS POLITICALLY IT MAY NOT RAISE ITS READ POLITICALLY IN THE READ POLITICALLY IN THE MIDTERMS, BUT IF DONALD TRUMP MIDTERMS, BUT IF DONALD TRUMP SEEKS REELECTION, HIS STORY OF SEEKS REELECTION, HIS STORY OF BEING THIS GREAT DEALMAKER THAT BEING THIS GREAT DEALMAKER THAT AS HE SAID IN 2016 STARTED WITH AS HE SAID IN 2016 STARTED WITH NEXT TO NOTHING AND IT WAS EVERY NEXT TO NOTHING AND IT WAS EVERY STEP OF THE WAY WAS HARD FOR STEP OF THE WAY WAS HARD FOR HIM, THAT’S UNDERCUT AND IT IS HIM, THAT’S UNDERCUT AND IT IS ATTACHED TO THE POLICIES THAT ATTACHED TO THE POLICIES THAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU HAVE A TAX BILL THAT DONALD HAVE A TAX BILL THAT DONALD TRUMP SIGNED AND THAT -- USED AT TRUMP SIGNED AND THAT -- USED AT MAR-A-LAGO WITH HIS BILLIONAIRE MAR-A-LAGO WITH HIS BILLIONAIRE FRIENDS SAYING I JUST MADE YOU A FRIENDS SAYING I JUST MADE YOU A LOT OF MONEY TODAY WITH THESE LOT OF MONEY TODAY WITH THESE TAX CUTS THAT ARE OVERWHELMINGLY TAX CUTS THAT ARE OVERWHELMINGLY UNPOPULAR. UNPOPULAR. DOESN’T THIS ALL FIT TOGETHER DOESN’T THIS ALL FIT TOGETHER POLITICALLY, DONALD TRUMP POLITICALLY, DONALD TRUMP GETTING HIS MONEY FROM HIS GETTING HIS MONEY FROM HIS DADDY, USING ILLEGAL TAX DADDY, USING ILLEGAL TAX SCHEMES, THE RICH GETTING SCHEMES, THE RICH GETTING RICHER, PROTECTING THEMSELVES RICHER, PROTECTING THEMSELVES WHILE THE POOR ARE GETTING WHILE THE POOR ARE GETTING POORER AND THE MIDDLE CLASS ARE POORER AND THE MIDDLE CLASS ARE STRUGGLING. STRUGGLING. >> I THINK READING THIS STORY >> I THINK READING THIS STORY DEMOCRATS ARE STARTING TO FIND DEMOCRATS ARE STARTING TO FIND THEIR TALKING POINTS FOR 2020 THEIR TALKING POINTS FOR 2020 BECAUSE THERE IS THIS IDEA NOW BECAUSE THERE IS THIS IDEA NOW THAT YOU CAN SAY WHEN YOU THINK THAT YOU CAN SAY WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE RICH AND THE POOR, ABOUT THE RICH AND THE POOR, DONALD TRUMP WAS UP THERE AND DONALD TRUMP WAS UP THERE AND HE’S BEEN UP THERE FOR A LONG HE’S BEEN UP THERE FOR A LONG TIME AND HE IS NOT LOOKING OUT TIME AND HE IS NOT LOOKING OUT FOR YOU BECAUSE HE DOESN’T EVEN FOR YOU BECAUSE HE DOESN’T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WOULD BE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WOULD BE TO NOT HAVE MONEY BECAUSE HIS NOT HAVE MONEY BECAUSE HIS FATHER KEPT BALING HIM OUT. FATHER KEPT BALING HIM OUT. THAT IDEA ALSO THAT HE WAS THAT IDEA ALSO THAT HE WAS TRYING TO CHANGE HIS FATHER’S TRYING TO CHANGE HIS FATHER’S WILL, I THINK DEMOCRATS WILL WILL, I THINK DEMOCRATS WILL PROBABLY BE TALKING ABOUT THAT PROBABLY BE TALKING ABOUT THAT SAYING NOT ONLY WAS THIS SOMEONE SAYING NOT ONLY WAS THIS SOMEONE WHO GOT MONEY FROM HIS PARENTS WHO GOT MONEY FROM HIS PARENTS AND REALLY WAS CONTINUING TO BE AND REALLY WAS CONTINUING TO BE SOMEONE WHO WAS PROPPED UP, BUT SOMEONE WHO WAS PROPPED UP, BUT THEN WHEN HIS FATHER IS IN HIS THEN WHEN HIS FATHER IS IN HIS LAST DAYS AND YEARS INSTEAD OF LAST DAYS AND YEARS INSTEAD OF SAYING THANK YOU DAD FOR ALL SAYING THANK YOU DAD FOR ALL THAT YOU’VE DONE HE’S SAYING I’M THAT YOU’VE DONE HE’S SAYING I’M GOING TO TRY TO GET A LITTLE BIT GOING TO TRY TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE OUT OF YOU. MORE OUT OF YOU. WHEN YOU THINK OF THE MESSAGE OF WHEN YOU THINK OF THE MESSAGE OF BERNIE SANDERS THAT HIS WHOLE BERNIE SANDERS THAT HIS WHOLE CAMPAIGN WAS SUMMED UP BY CAMPAIGN WAS SUMMED UP BY MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES, MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES, YOU CAN SEE DEMOCRATS WILL NOW YOU CAN SEE DEMOCRATS WILL NOW SAY THIS IS A MILLIONAIRE AND SAY THIS IS A MILLIONAIRE AND BILLIONAIRE THAT NOT ONLY IS BILLIONAIRE THAT NOT ONLY IS GOING TO LIE TO YOU BUT ALSO IS GOING TO LIE TO YOU BUT ALSO IS SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO CHANGE SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO CHANGE THE TAX CODE IN ORDER TO BENEFIT THE TAX CODE IN ORDER TO BENEFIT HIS FRIENDS. HIS FRIENDS. >> DAN GOLDMAN, BEYOND BEING >> DAN GOLDMAN, BEYOND BEING NINE PAGES OF BLOWING UP THE NINE PAGES OF BLOWING UP THE MYTH OF DONALD TRUMP’S PERSONAL MYTH OF DONALD TRUMP’S PERSONAL STORY THERE ARE LEGAL STORIES IN STORY THERE ARE LEGAL STORIES IN HERE AND THE DEPARTMENT OF TAX HERE AND THE DEPARTMENT OF TAX IS GOING TO LOOK INTO THIS. IS GOING TO LOOK INTO THIS. MARIO de BLASIO IS AUTHORIZED TO MARIO de BLASIO IS AUTHORIZED TO LOOK INTO ALL OF THIS. LOOK INTO ALL OF THIS. A LOT OF STUFF IS 43, 45 YEARS A LOT OF STUFF IS 43, 45 YEARS OLD. OLD. IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF CRIMINAL PROSECUTION HERE? CRIMINAL PROSECUTION HERE? >> THERE’S NOT A POSSIBILITY OF >> THERE’S NOT A POSSIBILITY OF CRIMINAL PROSECUTION FOR THAT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION FOR THAT STUFF AND THE STUFF IN THE ’90s. STUFF AND THE STUFF IN THE ’90s. IT’S EXCEEDED THE STATUTE OF IT’S EXCEEDED THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONES. LIMITATIONES. >> SO WHERE DOES THIS THIS END >> SO WHERE DOES THIS THIS END UP? UP? >> I THINK WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS >> I THINK WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS WHAT EDDIE SAID WHICH IS THIS IS WHAT EDDIE SAID WHICH IS THIS IS A STARTING POINT AND IF SOMEONE A STARTING POINT AND IF SOMEONE IS ENGAGED IN THIS SORT OF IS ENGAGED IN THIS SORT OF ACTIVITY AND CONSPIRING PERHAPS ACTIVITY AND CONSPIRING PERHAPS WITH HIS FATHER TO DO IT, THEN WITH HIS FATHER TO DO IT, THEN YOU START LOOKING MORE RECENTLY. YOU START LOOKING MORE RECENTLY. THESE ARE THE MEANS AND METHODS THESE ARE THE MEANS AND METHODS THAT DONALD TRUMP USED TO BUILD THAT DONALD TRUMP USED TO BUILD HIS EMPIRE. HIS EMPIRE. THERE’S NO REASON TO THINK THAT THERE’S NO REASON TO THINK THAT HE JUST STOPPED UPON HIS HE JUST STOPPED UPON HIS FATHER’S DEATH WHEN HE TOOK FATHER’S DEATH WHEN HE TOOK EVERYTHING OVER. EVERYTHING OVER. SO THEY WILL CERTAINLY BE SO THEY WILL CERTAINLY BE LOOKING INTO THAT. LOOKING INTO THAT. AND WE SHOULD BE CLEAR, A LOT OF AND WE SHOULD BE CLEAR, A LOT OF THIS STUFF WHILE IT SEEMS SHADY THIS STUFF WHILE IT SEEMS SHADY AND SUSPICIOUS IS PERFECTLY AND SUSPICIOUS IS PERFECTLY LEGAL. LEGAL. MANY PEOPLE ARE BACK STOPPED BY MANY PEOPLE ARE BACK STOPPED BY THEIR PARENTS IN VARIOUS WAYS THEIR PARENTS IN VARIOUS WAYS AND CLEARLY DONALD TRUMP’S AND CLEARLY DONALD TRUMP’S FATHER WAS TRYING TO PASS MONEY FATHER WAS TRYING TO PASS MONEY ON TO HIS CHILDREN AND A LOT OF ON TO HIS CHILDREN AND A LOT OF IT WAS LEGAL WAYS, HE CREATED IT WAS LEGAL WAYS, HE CREATED COMPANIES IN THEIR NAMES AND FOR COMPANIES IN THEIR NAMES AND FOR THEM WITH MONEY THAT NEVER WAS THEM WITH MONEY THAT NEVER WAS ACTUALLY HIS, IT WAS ULTIMATELY ACTUALLY HIS, IT WAS ULTIMATELY EARNED MONEY. EARNED MONEY. THAT’S OKAY, BUT A LOT OF THIS THAT’S OKAY, BUT A LOT OF THIS OTHER STUFF AND THE OTHER STUFF AND THE MISREPRESENTATIONS IS WHAT IS MISREPRESENTATIONS IS WHAT IS SUSPECT AND I EXPECT THAT THE SUSPECT AND I EXPECT THAT THE NEW YORK STATE AUTHORITIES WILL NEW YORK STATE AUTHORITIES WILL LOOK INTO MORE RECENT CONDUCT. LOOK INTO MORE RECENT CONDUCT. >> AND, YOU KNOW, MIKA, WE USE >> AND, YOU KNOW, MIKA, WE USE THE NAME BERNIE SANDERS, HOW THE NAME BERNIE SANDERS, HOW THIS WOULD FEED INTO THE THIS WOULD FEED INTO THE DEMOCRATS MESSAGE AND BERNIE DEMOCRATS MESSAGE AND BERNIE SANDERS’ MESSAGE. SANDERS’ MESSAGE. FORGET BERNIE SANDERS. FORGET BERNIE SANDERS. WHAT ABOUT DONALD TRUMP’S WHAT ABOUT DONALD TRUMP’S MESSAGE IN 2016? MESSAGE IN 2016? HE WAS THE POPULIST. HE WAS THE POPULIST. HE WAS THE ONE RUNNING ADS AT HE WAS THE ONE RUNNING ADS AT THE END OF THE CAMPAIGN, THE TWO THE END OF THE CAMPAIGN, THE TWO MINUTE BANNON AD THAT TALKED MINUTE BANNON AD THAT TALKED ABOUT HOW THE INTERNATIONAL ABOUT HOW THE INTERNATIONAL ORDER, THE BANKING ORDER, THE ORDER, THE BANKING ORDER, THE TAX CODE, EVERYTHING WAS RIGGED TAX CODE, EVERYTHING WAS RIGGED AGAINST THE POOR FOR THE BENEFIT AGAINST THE POOR FOR THE BENEFIT OF GLOBAL ELITES AND THE RICHEST OF GLOBAL ELITES AND THE RICHEST PEOPLE IN AMERICA AND ACROSS THE PEOPLE IN AMERICA AND ACROSS THE WORLD. WORLD. THIS UNDERCUTS THE MESSAGE FOR THIS UNDERCUTS THE MESSAGE FOR DONALD TRUMP. DONALD TRUMP. FORGET BERNIE SANDERS. FORGET BERNIE SANDERS. WHAT HE SAID IN 2016. WHAT HE SAID IN 2016. >> IT DOES. >> IT DOES. IT’S AN INCREDIBLE, INCREDIBLE