CNN Presidential Debate Simulcast

SUPPORTERS OF THE CANDIDATES ARE ALREADY GATHERING TO TALK TO THE MEDIA. IN AN HOUR PRESIDENT BIDEN FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL FACE OFF IN A DEBATE FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE THE 2020 ELECTION FOR TONIGHT'S DEBATE HOSTED BY CNN AND SIMULCAST HERE ON THE C-SPAN NETWORK. BEFORE THE DEBATE BEGINS TONIGHT WE WANT TO START THE CONVERSATION AS WE ALWAYS DO ON C-SPAN WITH ALL OF YOU, THE VOTERS. IF YOU ARE SUPPORTING PRESIDENT BIDEN AND YOU ALREADY KNOW YOU WILL BE VOTING FOR HIM TILE INTN TONIGHT 2027488920. IF YOU SUPPORT FORMER PRESIDENT STYLE IN 2027488921. IF YOU ARE UNDECIDED ABOUT WHO YOU WILL VOTE FOR THIS NOVEMBER CALL IN (202)748-8922. AND IF YOU HAVE DECIDED TO VOTE FOR EIGHT THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE CALLS 2027488923. OUR QUESTION FOR YOU BEFORE THE DEBATE, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HEAR IN THIS FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE? THAT IS OUR QUESTION JOIN US ON X AS WELL AT THE HANDLE AT C-SPAN OR FACEBOOK.COM/CSPAN YOU CAN ALSO SEND A TEXT AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION 2027488903. WE WILL ALSO HEAR FROM YOU AFTER TONIGHT'S DEBATE WE WILL TAKE YOUR PHONE CALLS AND YOUR TEXTS IF YOU FOLLOW US ON X AT C-SPAN YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN OUR POLL THIS EVENING. WANT TO KNOW AND THAT POLL WHO YOU THINK ONE TONIGHT'S DEBATE. WE WILL SHARE THOSE RESULTS LATER ON. JOINING US FROM INSIDE THE SPIN ROOM TONIGHT IS NAOMI WHITE HOUSE REPORTER WITH THE WASHINGTON EXAMINER. ACCORDING TO THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER CNN TOLD THAT OUTLET THERE ARE OVER 800 JOURNALISTS FROM AROUND THE WORLD ON SITE IN ATLANTA TO COVER THIS FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. DESCRIBE THE SCENE WERE YOU ARE AT IN THE SPIN ROOM IN THE ATLANTA STUDIO AND AROUND THE CITY. >> THERE IS AN AMAZING SENSE OF ANTICIPATION HERE. THINK REPORTERS ARE FEELING THE WEIGHT OF THIS MOMENT. THIS IS AN UNPRECEDENTED EVENT IN TERMS OF THE DEBATE. IT'S AGAINST THE TWO CANDIDATES ALTHOUGH THE PUBLIC KNOWS VERY WELL HAS NOT SEEN THEM AS YOU ARE SO DESCRIBING SIDE-BY-SIDE SINCE 2020. AND THAT WAS WAITING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR SO LONG FOR IT TO LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN PREVIOUS YEARS IN PREVIOUS YEARS YOU CAN GO TO THESE DEBATES PULL ASIDE AND WAIT TO GO IN HOW THEY ARE FEELING ABOUT THE ELECTION ABOUT THE DIFFERENT CAMPAIGNS IN THE DIFFERENT CANDIDATES AND THE DIFFERENT ISSUES. THIS DEBATE IS DIFFERENT THAN IN THE PAST YOU MENTIONED HOSTED BY CNN THE FIRST TIME THAT HAS HAPPENED IN ALMOST 40 YEARS. THERE IS NO IN PERSON AUDIENCE WILL BE THE TWO MODERATORS JAKE TAPPER AND DANA BASH. NO CAMPAIGN STAFF IS LIKE TO INTERCEDE IN THE TWO COMMERCIAL BREAKS. THERE IS A SENSE OF HEIGHTENED ANTICIPATION EXPECTATION. THERE ARE PROTESTS WHITTLED AROUND THEIR SECURITY IS VERY LARGE HERE IT IS NOT SOMETHING THE CANDIDATES WILL INTERACT WITH LESS ON THE WAY INTO THE MOTORCADE INTO THE VENUE. >> WHAT IS SECURITY LIKE AROUND THE ATLANTA STUDIO THERE? >> IT'S REALLY ON LOCKDOWN. IT PLACES ANNOYANCE IRRITATED BECAUSE AT THE SAME TIME THERE OTHER SPORTING EVENTS. THAT LEAD UP TO TONIGHT THE FEELINGS ABOUT THE DEBATE USUALLY HAVING AN EVENT LIKE THIS IN A BATTLEGROUND STATE IN GEORGIA WILL BE SEEN AS A BOON FOR THE LOCAL ECONOMY THAT WOULD DIFFERENT THIS TIME BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE THE AUDIENCE. THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF JOURNALISTS FOR ALL AROUND THE WORLD. >> YOU ARE IN THE SPIN ROOM WHAT IS THIS ROOM? AND WHAT HAPPENS THERE? >> THIS IS BASICALLY A BASKETBALL STADIUM AT THE GEORGIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY. IT HAS BEEN TRANSFORMED YET SET LIKE YOURS ALONG EITHER SIDE. WORKERS WOULD EKE OUT POINTS YOU ARE SEEG T CAMPAIGN TO BRING UP THEIR SURROGATES WHAT ARE THEIR EXPECTATIONS ARE WHAT THEY ARE HOPING TO GET OUT OF THIS. AND WE ARE SEEING THAT PLAY OUT. LOCAL JOURNALIST DOING THINGS TO TRY AND CONVEY WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE TO AUDIENCES LIKE YOURS. >> WHAT SURROGATES ARE WE EXPECTING TO SEE IN THE SPIN ROOM TONIGHT AFTER THE DEBATE? C-SPAN IS GOING TO BE ALIVE TO THERE FOR MANY OF THE CANDIDATE SUPPORTERS. WHO ARE SOME NAMES WE CAN EXPECT TO SEE? >> IT IS GOING TO BE INTERESTING IN TERMS OF YEARS GONE PAST THERE'S BEEN LITTLE MORE FREEWHEELING CAMPAIGN SURROGATES WILL SUPPORT STANDING WE LEARN THE 70 BIDEN CAMPAIGN IS THROWING OUT THEIR PLAYBOOK AND SAID THEY'RE GOING TO BRING OUT PEOPLE LIKE GAVIN NEWSOM FROM CALIFORNIA. PEOPLE LIKE SENATOR RAFAEL FOR FROM GEORGIA. ALSO FORMER ATLANTA AND THEY WILL DO A VERY FORMAL PRESS CONFERENCE EACH OF THOSE SURROGATES WILL GIVE A STATEMENT AND TAKE US TO VIEW STATEMENTS AND LEAVE THAT ROOM. AT THE SAME TIME VERY IN-LINE WITH THE CAMPAIGN THEY TEND TO BE VERY DISCIPLINED IT'S A WAIT FOR THEM TO CONTROL WHAT HAPPENS DEPENDING IF IT'S A GOOD NIGHT OR BAD NIGHT FOR BIDEN. ON THE TRUMP SIDE TO BEING TIGHTLIPPED ABOUT IT BUT WE HAVE SEEN REPRESENTATIVE BY WRITTEN DONALD'S FROM FLORIDA TAKE QUESTIONS WE HAVE SEEN THE 2016 CAMPAIGN MANAGER DOING HIS ROUNDS THEY WILL BE A DIFFERENT OPERATION FROM YEARS GONE PAST. AGAIN MAYBE THAT WILL CHANGE OF THE FIGHTING CAMPAIGN HAS A GOOD NIGHT IT'S VERY MUCH EXPECTATIONS IT'S INTERESTING TO SOME OF THE PRE-SPIN THEY WERE SAYING THEY ARE NOT ANTICIPATING A PULLING A BUMP PER SE THEIR CHANCE TO MAKE SURE THE PRESIDENT CAN LAY OUT THE CONTRAST BETWEEN THESE TWO CANDIDATES WE HAVE NOT SEEN SIDE-BY-SIDE IN SO MANY YEARS. >> ANYTHING ELSE THE TWO CAMPS HAVE TOLD YOU ABOUT THEIR STRATEGY TONIGHT? AND THEIR PREPARATION FOR THE DEBATE? >> THE PREPARATIONS HAVE BEEN VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE TWO CANDIDATES JUST LIKE THEIR POLICIES ARE DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF PREPARATIONS YOU HAVE BIDEN WHO IS TAKING A TRADITIONAL APPROACH. SEND OUT FORMER WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF DOING 90 MINUTE DEBATE ON THE OTHER HAND YOU HAVE TRUMP MAYBE THIS IS AN EXPECTATION SETTING GAME. THERE HAVE ADVISORS PEOPLE LIKE JASON MILLER IS THE CALMEST ADVISOR AS WELL AS POLICY ADVISORS LIKE STEPHEN MILLER WITH THIS IMMIGRATION POLICY AS WELL AS THE THREE CANDIDATES OF POPPING UP FOR POTENTIAL VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION. ADVISING HIM AND DOING INFORMAL POLICY DISCUSSIONS. THAT IS HOW THEY ARE PREPARED IN TERMS OF STRATEGY IT WILL BE INTERESTING HEARING TRUMP WILL BE TALKING ABOUT CRIME, ECONOMY AND IMMIGRATION MERCY BIDEN CAMP WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF DEMOCRACY BUT TALK ABOUT THE 2020 ELECTION INTERFERENCE AS WELL AS A JANUARY 6 CAPITOL RIOTS AS WELL AS THIS IDEA TRUMP IS HELPING BIG BUSINESS AND WEALTHY PEOPLE NOT THE MIDDLE CLASS. THE OTHER TALKING POINTS WE WILL EXPECT TO HEAR BIDEN HAS BEEN A LITTLE MORE FORTHCOMING IN TERMS OF HIS STRATEGY. ONE THING HIS STRATEGY HAS SAID HE MAY TRY TO UP HERE AND SPEAK TO THE CAMERA IT LIKE I AM SPEAKING TO YOU TO SKIRT AROUND TRUMP AND THE MODERATORS TO GET HIS MESSAGE DIRECTLY OUT TO THE PEOPLE. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SEEING THREE DEBATES. FIRST DEBATE IF STOPS IN VIRGINIA ON THE TRUMP SIDE AND STOPS IN NORTH CAROLINA ON THE BIDEN SIDE. AND THEN FUNDRAISING OFF OF THAT AS WELL. >> NAOMI COVERS THE WHITE HOUSE FOR THE WASHINGTON EXAMINER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AS WE HEARD FROM NAOMI THE TOPICS LIKELY TO BE ADDRESSED THIS EVENING BY THE TWO CANDIDATES FOR THAT IS WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU I HAD AT TONIGHT'S DEBATE AT 9:00 P.M. EASTERN TIME. WHAT ISSUES DO YOU WANT THEM TO ADDRESS? WE'LL GET TO YOUR THOUGHTS HERE IN JUST A MINUTE. BUT FIRST IS NAOMI IT WAS TALKING ABOUT SHE IS IN THE SPIN ROOM WHICH IS WHERE THE SURROGATES GO BEFORE AND AFTER TO TALK ABOUT HOW THEY EXPECT THEIR CANDIDATES TO DO AND HOW THEY DID AND TALK ABOUT HOW THEY DID AN ACTUAL DEBATE LET'S TAKE A SPIN AROUND THE SPIN ROOM. [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] [BACKGROUND NOISES] C-SPAN CAMERA LIVE INSIDE THE SPIN ROOM IN ATLANTA JUST AHEAD AT TONIGHT'S CNN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE WE ALONG WITH MANY OTHER NETWORKS SIMULCASTING THE DEBATE HERE ON OUR C-SPAN NETWORK AHEAD OF THE TWO CANDIDATES SWEARING OFF IN HIS FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. WE WANT TO HEAR FROM ALL OF YOU THIS EVENING. TONIGHT'S DEBATE IS DIFFERENT FROM PREVIOUS DEBATES IN MANY WAYS AS MANY OF YOU HAVE HEARD THE FIRST TIME THE SITTING PRESIDENT SWEARS OFF AGAINST THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND THE FIRST TIME IN 37 YEARS THE COMMISSION ON PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE HAS NOT HOSTED A GENERAL ELECTION MATCHUP. THE RULES ARE DIFFERENT AS WELL. THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT. A 90 MINUTE DEBATE TONIGHT. THE MICROPHONE WILL BE MUTED WHEN ONE CANDIDATE IS TALKING AND ADDRESSING THE QUESTION OR RESPONDING TO A QUESTION. NO PROPS OR PRE-WRITTEN NOTES ARE ALLOWED. THEY WILL BE PROVIDED A PEN, A PAD OF PAPER AND A BOTTLE OF WATER. THEIR WEEK TWO COMMERCIAL BREAKS ABOUT THREE AND HALF MINUTES LONG. NO CAMPAIGN STAFF CAN INTERACT DURING THOSE BREAKS. CNN IS NOT ALLOWING THE OTHER NETWORKS TO PROVIDE ANALYSIS OR HAVE THEIR ANCHORS FILL THE FILE BRAKES. THEY CAN FILL THE BRAKES WITH ADS. NO OPENING STATEMENTS FROM THE CANDIDATES. THEY WILL HAVE A UNIFORM PODIUM. IN OTHER WORDS THEY WILL LOOK AT THE SAME AND THE POSITIONS HAVE BEEN DETERMINED BY A COIN FLIP. PRESIDENT BIDEN ON THE RIGHT, FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL BE ON THE LEFT OF YOUR SCREEN. AND, AS YOU HAVE HEARD NO STUDIO AUDIENCE. A LITTLE MORE ABOUT TONIGHT'S DEBATE FROM CNN PHIL MATTINGLY. LESSON ON THE NETWORK HE DID A WALK-THROUGH OF THE DEBATE HALL. THE DEBATE STUDIO. TAKE A LOOK. >> PRESIDENT BIDEN WILL ENTER FROM THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN. PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL ENTER FROM THE LEFT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN. THE PODIUMS ARE 8 FEET APART. DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THEM THE MODERATORS JAKE TAPPER AND DANA BASH PRAY THIS IS A TELEVISION STUDIO AND AUDIENCE CANDIDATES OF TWO MINUTES ANSWER QUESTION ONE MEANT FOR RESPONSES AND REBUTTALS. AT THE MODERATOR'S DISCRETION THERE MAY BE AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE FOR FOLLOW-UPS, CLARIFICATION OR RESPONSES. HOW DOES A CANDIDATE KNOW HOW MUCH TIME IS LEFT TO SPEAK? ATTACHED TO THE CAMERA IN THE STUDIO AND THE CANDIDATES FIELD OF VIEW ARE THE TIMING LIGHT. THE LIGHTS SHOW YELLOW THERE IS 15 SECONDS LEFT IN THE CANDIDATES ANSWER OR RESPONSE. WHEN THE LIGHTS FLASHED RED THERE'S FIVE SECONDS LEFT BUT WHEN THE DISPLAY IS SOLID RED THE TIME IS UP. AT THAT POINT THE CANDIDATE THE MICROPHONE WILL BE TURNED OFF. THE OTHER CANDIDATE WILL HAVE THEIR MICROPHONE TURNED ON. MY COLLEAGUE VICTOR BLACKWELL HAS MORE ON THAT. >> THANK YOU, PHIL. WE GO BEHIND THE PODIUMS YOU CAN SEE TWO GREEN LIGHTS UP RIGHT WHEN THEY ARE ON THEY SIGNAL TO THE CANDIDATE'S MICROPHONE IS ON. WHEN THE GREEN LIGHT IS OFF THEY SIGNALED THE MICROPHONE IS OFF. I WANT TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE FOR VIEWERS AT HOME IF A CANDIDATE MICROPHONE IS OFF INTERRUPTS A CANDIDATE'S MICROPHONE IS ON PAR AND SENDING IT ONE PODIUM UNLESS PHIL TOOK A MINUTE TAKE THE OTHER PODIUM. LET'S SAY I AM ANSWERING A QUESTION PUT MY LIGHT IS GREEN AND I AM SPEAKING. PHIL'S MICROPHONE IS OFF IN HIS GREEN LIGHTS ARE NOT ILLUMINATED. HE'S GOING TO INTERRUPT ME AS I'M SPEAKING AND THIS IS WHAT IT WILL SOUND MY PUT MY VOLUME REMAINS CONSTANT LAW FILLS INTERRUPTION CAN BE DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND. LET'S TRY THE OPPOSITE MIGHT MICROPHONE IT IS NOW ON VICTOR'S MICROPHONE IS OFF BUT HE IS GOING TO INTERRUPT ME. MY VOLUME REMAINS CONSTANT WHILE VICTOR'S INTERRUPTION COULD BE DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND. THE PRODUCTION TEAM ASSURED THIS DEMONSTRATION WITH THE CAMPAIGNS EARLIER TODAY WE ARE SHARING WITH YOU, OUR VIEWER SO EVERYONE FULLY UNDERSTANDS HOW TOMORROW NIGHT WILL WORK. WE SHOULD NOTE BY AGREEING TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS DEBATE BOTH CAMPAIGNS AND CANDIDATES HAVE ALSO AGREE TO ABIDE BY THESE RULES. >> FROM CNN A PREVIEW OF HOW TONIGHT'S DEBATE WILL WORK. WE ARE SIMULCASTING CNN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE HERE ON THE C-SPAN NETWORK AND AHEAD OF THE TWO CANDIDATES SQUARING OFF WE WANT TO HEAR FROM ALL OF YOU. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THESE TWO CANDIDATES? THERE ARE THE LINES ON YOUR SCREEN WILL HEAR FROM DEANDRE FIRST IN BALTIMORE. YOU ARE UNDECIDED, TELL US WHY. >> Caller: THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. THE REASON I'M UNDECIDED IS BOTH CANDIDATES ARE PRO ISRAEL. WE NEED TO FOCUS ON AMERICA AND AMERICANS AND SECURE OUR SOUTHERN BORDER. LET ISRAEL FIGHT THEIR OWN OARS. >> FOREIGN POLICY YOU WANT TO HEAR THEM TALK ABOUT THAT TONIGHT? LOOKS CORRECT, CORRECT. LET'S BRING IT TO THE TABLE ABOUT MAKING A PACK A REGISTER IT AS A FOREIGN ENTITY PRETTY THINK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR NATION. >> DEANDRE IN BALTIMORE UNDECIDED ADRIAN IN COURT NORTH NORTH CHINA SUPPORTING PRESIDENT BIDEN. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM HIM AND THE FORMER PRESIDENT QUESTION AT WHAT ISSUES YOU WANT THEM TO DEBATE? >> I WOULD LOVE FOR THEM TO TALK ABOUT HOW THEY ARE GOING TO SUPPORT EDUCATORS IN THE UNITED STATES. AS A SCIENCE EDUCATOR MYSELF, I WANTED THEM TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS MEANS FOR THE EDUCATION OF OUR CHILDREN. ALSO AS A WOMAN, A MOTHER AND A GRANDMOTHER I WANT TO KNOW HOW THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CHILDREN. AND FINALLY AS A HUMAN, TAKING CARE OF THE MIDDLE CLASS. THIS IS NOT HAPPENED. A STRONG MIDDLE CLASS REPRESENTS A STRONG UNITED STATES. SO FAR IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE BEEN LOSING THAT. WE FEEL LIKE TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. AND THAT HOLDS TRUE FOR ANYONE WHO IS NOT THE TOP 10%. >> ADRIAN HOWDY TAKE CARE THE MIDDLE CLASS? >> Caller: TAKE CARE OF THEM BY NOT TAXING THEM TO DEATH. WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AS IT SEEMS LIKE THESE OF BILLIONAIRES AND MILLIONAIRES ARE GETTING OUT WITH TAX LOOPS AND WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO. IT IS ILLEGAL TO THEM SO THEY GO AHEAD AND DO IT. THEY ARE STEALING FROM THE LOWER CLASSES AND IT'S JUST ALL TO BENEFIT THE RICH. WE SEE THAT HAPPENING WITH THE INDEX OF THE RICH GETTING RICHER AND THE POOR GETTING POORER. SEE AND KAYLA AND WATERLOO, IOWA SUPPORTING THE FORMER PRESIDENT WE ARE LISTENING TO YOU. >> Caller: I WOULD LIKE TO LIMIT THE PEOPLE COMING INTO OUR COUNTRY AND CHECKING TO SEE IF THEY ARE TERRORISTS. THEY HAVE BEEN LET OUT OF PRISONS IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES AND THEN LET THEM IN LEGALLY. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE A REFORM MADE ON OUR HEALTH INSURANCE FOR ALL OBAMACARE. WE ARE JUST NOW REAPING THE REPERCUSSIONS FROM THAT. THAT HAS JUST DEVASTATED THE SENIOR POPULATIONS AND ALSO THE ECONOMY PUT LET'S GET THAT BACK UP. >> AND HOW DO YOU DO THAT? WHAT DO YOU NEED TO SEE FOR YOU TO FEEL THE ECONOMY IS BETTER? >> I NEED TO SEE OUR PRICES COME DOWN. OUR MIDDLE CLASS GOING BACK TO WORK IN JOBS THEY CAN MAKE A LIVING AT. MAKE THEIR RENTS, MAKE THEIR INSURANCE PAYMENTS, WHATEVER THEY NEED TO HAVE THEY ARE NOT MAKING IT NOW. >> WHAT IS NOT AFFORDABLE? TELL ME SOME ITEMS THAT ARE NOT AFFORDABLE IN YOUR OPINION? >> OF FOOD, GAS, CLOTHING, EVERYTHING THAT I CAN THINK OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD IS TOO EXPENSIVE. ALL OF THE PRICES HAVE GONE UP IT MIGHT BE PRICE GOUGING IN SOME INSTANCES AND MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT BECAUSE WHAT YOU THINK THE FORMER PRESIDENT WOULD DO BETTER ON THE ECONOMY THAN PRESIDENT BIDEN? >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL HE HAS A BUSINESS ATTITUDE. HE HASN'T BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR MANY YEARS. HE KNOWS HOW THAT WORKS. HE ALSO KNOWS HOW TO TALK TO PEOPLE. THE ONE I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT THERE WANT TO GO BACK INSIDE THE SPIN ROOM ON FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CONTENDER HIMSELF THIS TIME AROUND. IMPOSSIBLE CONTENDER FOR A RUNNING MATE FOR THE FORMER PRESIDENT TALKING TO THE MEDIA. >> ENVIRONMENT OF REGULATORY AMBIGUITY. REGULATORY AMBIGUITY IS A PRECONDITION FOR GOVERNMENT OVERREACH. THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT PREDEFINED WITH THE RULES AS A GUEST AND A FINE. WHATEVER THE RULES ARE. [INAUDIBLE] >> ADDITIONAL FEE AND SAID THAT'S WHY THE NOT DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT? >> IS NOT THE SOLE REASON BUT THERE'S A BIG PART OF A WHITE JANET YELLEN AND OTHERS HAVE EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR DIGITAL BANK CURRENCY WHICH I AM DEAD SET OPPOSED TO AND I AM GRATEFUL AND HAPPY DONALD TRUMP A NUMBER OF MONTHS AGO AFTER SOME CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD CAME OUT WITH FIRM OPPOSITION TO CENTRAL BANK DIGITAL CURRENCY. THAT IS GOOD IT EMBODIES WHO HE IS AND WHY HE ENTERED GOVERNMENT IN THE FIRST PLACE. THAT IS PART OF WHAT DRAIN THE SWAMP IS ALL ABOUT US PROVIDING CLARITY WITH THE RULES ARE OR ARC, STAYING WITHIN THE CONFINES OF WHAT THE SAYS NOT SEIZING POWER THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT HAVE IN FIRST PLACE IS PART OF WHAT IT REPRESENTS THERE IS ONE REASON PRESIDENT BIDEN OPERATING IN THE REALM OF AMBIGUITY QUESTION MAKE SURE I THINK PRESIDENT BIDEN QUESTION WAS HANDLERS ARE WHO WERE CONTROLLING HIM. I DO THI THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THEY PREFER THAT REGIME. ONE AMONG MANY FOR THE MODERN DEMOCRATIC PARTY. >> VERY COMMON PROGRESS WHO ARE YOU WITH? >> WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE? SAY THAT AGAIN? >> THE ATTACKS AGAINST TRUMP TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION WHICH RESPONSE TO THAT? WHAT'S MY RESPONSE OF THAT THAT'S A LOT OF PROJECTION FOR THE PEOPLE ARE MAKING THE ACCUSATIONS. THE REALITY IS, HE'S NOT CALL FOR THE TERMINATION. HE DID NOT CALL. PSYCHED FOR ME ONE TIME OR DONALD TRUMP CALL FOR THE TERMINATION OF THE CONSTITUTION? HE'S NEVER CALLED FOR THE TERMINATION. HERE IS WHAT I BELIEVE. WHAT I DO BELIEVE IS THERE IS A PROJECTION? VIVEK RAMASWAMY AND THE SPINNER MARK AMOS OR LIVE INSIDE THERE THIS EVENING AHEAD OF TONIGHT'S CNN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE WHICH WE WILL SIMULCAST HERE ON C-SPAN NETWORK. WE ARE GETTING YOUR THOUGHTS THE HEAD OF THE DEBATE ON WHAT TOPICS YOU WANT ADDRESSED BY THESE TWO CANDIDATES? IVANKA GOOD EVENING TO YOU YOU ARE SUPPORTING PRESIDENT BIDEN, IS THAT RIGHT? >> Caller: SAM. >> Host: WHAT DO YOU WANT THEM TO ADDRESS? >> I AM TIRED OF THE LIES. I AM TIRED OF HEARING PEOPLE UPLIFT DONALD TRUMP AS THOUGH HE IS A GOD. HE IS NOT. HE IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE HE IS A RADICAL I AM A CHRISTIAN AND I LOVE MY COUNTRY. BUT I DO NOT FEEL SAFE WITH OTHER CHRISTIANS RIGHT NOW WHO BELIEVE THAT DONALD TRUMP IS THE SECOND COMING O JESUS CHRIST. I AM ALSO AN EDUCATOR I AM TIRED OF PEOPLE DUMBING DOWN EDUCATION. I WENT PRESIDENT BIDEN TO BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE SEEN HAPPEN IN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS. AND BRING EDUCATION BACK UP. STOP BURNING BOOKS. STOP BANNING BOOKS AND EDUCATE PEOPLE REALLY EDUCATE PEOPLE I THINK WITH THE DECENCY BIDEN BRINGS TO THE TABLE THAT WE CAN COME BACK TOGETHER AT SOME POINT IN THIS GALES WILL FALL OFF THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DECEIVED BY DONALD TRUMP. >> Host: STATEN ISLAND, NEW YORK UNDECIDED CALLING. WHY ARE YOU UNDECIDED? COLLIN IN STATEN ISLAND ARE YOU WITH US? UNDECIDED PROGRESS YES, I AM SORRY. I FEEL LIKE I AM LEANING TOWARDS A BIDEN BUT IT IS MOSTLY BECAUSE I AM CRINGING AWAY FROM TRUMP. HE HAS TOO MUCH BAGGAGE SHE HAS WAY TOO MUCH BAGGAGE AND TONIGHT WHEN I AM LOOKING FOR IS FOR BIDEN TO SHOW HE HAS SOME VIGOR I FEEL LIKE. IT IS ON FEAR OF THE CLIPS THAT ARE SNIPPED FOR HIM BUT SERIOUSLY HE WILL CROSS OVER TO THE G7 HE IS OVER THERE FOR THE JUNE OR MEMORIAL HOLIDAY HE IS SHOWING SOMETHING I DON'T THINK THE REST OF THE COUNTRY SEES OFTEN. >> YOU WANT TO SEE VITALITY FROM THE PRESIDENT, MENTAL ACUITY IS THAT WHICH YOU ARE LOOKING FOR TO SEAL THE DEAL? >> I THINK HE HAS ITS I JUST DON'T THINK HE IS SHOWING IT OR IT'S NOT BEING SHOWN. THIS IS A BIG AUDIENCE FOR HIM TONIGHT. I THINK AS AN OPPORTUNITY. LISTEN I WOULD RATHER HAVE ANOTHER CHOICE I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE ANOTHER CHOICE. IT IS SO BY INERRANT WORDS ONE OR THE OTHER I THINK TRUMP DOESN'T HAVE SUMMARY THINGS INCLUDING CHARACTER I MEAN THERE IS SO MUCH IT WOULD BE A LOT TO GET INTO A VERY. >> IN WEEK TWO CANDIDATES ON THE STAGE TONIGHT. THE CANDIDATES AND MUST MEET REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED IN ARTICLE TWO SECTION ONE OF THE U.S. CONSTITUTION NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, 35 YEARS OF AGE AND HAVE LIVED IN THE UNITED STATES FOR 14 YEARS. CNN HAS ADDITIONAL QUALIFICATIONS THERE MUST BE A FORMAL STATEMENT OF CANDIDACY FILED AND BE ON ENOUGH BALLOTS TO HAVE A PATHWAY TO 270 ELECTORAL VOTES. THEY MUST ALSO HAVE REACHED AT LEAST 15% AND FOUR SEPARATE NATIONAL POLLS THAT MEANS, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW ROBERT KENNEDY JUNIOR WILL NOT BE ON THE DEBATE STAGE TONIGHT THE CANDIDATE CAMPAIGN IS NOT GIVEN MANY DETAILS ON HOW HIS SOLO DEBATE WILL UNFOLD. HE WILL BE HAVING WHAT HE IS CALLING HIS OWN REAL DEBATE STREAMING ON X THIS IS FROM CBS REPORTING. IT WILL HAVE A LIVE AUDIENCE THAT WILL TAKE PLACE AT 9:00 P.M. EASTERN TIME. THE SAME TIME AS A CNN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE HE PLANS TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS GIVEN TO THE CANDIDATES IN HIS DEBATE. WE'LL SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THAT AFTER TONIGHT CNN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE ECONOMY THIS EVENING. IT IS ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU WANT ADDRESSED BY THESE TWO CANDIDATES. IT WAS AN ISSUE BACK IN 2020 AS WELL. WE WENT TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE TWO CANDIDATES HAD TO SAY BACK THEN AND 2020 WHEN THEY SQUARED OFF IN THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE OF THAT ELECTION YEAR. >> MY ECONOMIC PLAN WOULD CREATE 7 MILLION MORE JOBS IN HIS IN FOUR YEARS, NUMR ONE. AND NUMBER TWO, IT WOULD CREATE AN ADDITIONAL $1 TRILLION IN ECONOMIC GROWTH BECAUSE IT BE ABOUT BEING ABOUT BUYING AMERICA IS GOING TO LIMIT SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS OF TAXA BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE THE CORPORATE TAX 28% SHOULD NOT BE 21%. YOU HAVE 91 COMPANIES IN THE FORTUNE 500 WHO DO NOT PAY SINGLE PENNY AND TAX. >> FINANCIAL JUNIOR VICE PRESIDENT WITH OBAMA? >> BECAUSE YOU INFECT THE PAST THAT. THAT IS YOUR TAX PROPOSAL REQUEST I GOT IT DONE TO WHAT HAPPENED? OUR ECONOMY BOOMED. >> MR. PRESIDENT LET ME PICK UP ON THAT. YOU WOULD CONTINUE YOUR FREE MARKET APPROACH, LOWER TAXES, MORE DEREGULATION CORRECT? >> CLICK SETTLER ATTACKS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. >> YOU TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMY BOOMING IT TURNS OUT OBAMA'S FINAL THREE YEARS AS PRESIDENT MORE JOBS WERE CREATE A MILLION AND A HALF MORE JOBS THAN IN THE FIRST THREE YEAF YOUR PRESIDENCY. >> THEY HAD THE SLOWEST RECOVERY SINCE 19209 WHEN THE STOCK MARKET GOES UP THAT MEANS JOBS THAT ALSO MEANS A 401(K) IF YOU GOT IT IF YOU EVER BECAME PRESENT WITH YOUR IDEAS YOU TO TERMINATE MY TAXES I WILL TELL YOU WHAT, YOU WILL LOSE HALF OF THE COMPANIES AND REPORTED HERE WILL LEAVE. PLENTY ARE HERE THEY WILL LEAVE. THEY WILL LEAVE AND YOU'LL HAVE A DEPRESSION THE LIKES OF WHICH YOU'VE NEVER SEEN. >> WE INHERITED THE WORST RECESSION SHORT OF A DEPRESSION IN AMERICAN HISTORY I WAS ASKED TO BRING IT BACK WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE AN ECONOMIC RECOVERY THAT CREATE THE JOBS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. WE HANDED HIM A BOOMING ECONOMY HE BLEW IT. HE BLEW IT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT BOOMING IT WAS THE WEAKEST RECOVERY. >> IS IT FAIR TO SAY HE BLEW IT WHEN THERE WAS RECORD LOW UNEMPLOYMENT BEFORE COVID? >> BECAUSE WHAT HE DID EVEN BEFORE COVID MANUFACTURING WENT IN THE HOLE. MANUFACTURING WENT IN THE HOLE. NUMBER TWO, NUMBER THREE. >> KNOW YOUR NUMBER TWO. CHRIS, CHRIS AND THEY SAID IT WOULD TAKE A MIRACLE TO BRING BACK MANUFACTURING BUT I BROUGHT 700,000 JOBS. THEY BROUGHT BACK NOTHING THEY GAVE UP ON MANUFACTURING. >> I'M THE GUY THAT BROUGHT BACK THE AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY. WE BROUGHT BACK I WAS ASKED TO BRING BACK CHRYSLER AND GENERAL MOTORS AND BROUGHT THEM BACK RIGHT HERE IN THE STATE OF OHIO AND MICHIGAN FOR HE BLEW IT, THEY ARE GONE HE BLEW IT. >> OHIO HAD THE BEST YEAR IT EVER HAD LAST YEAR. >> OF THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE OF THE 2020 ELECTION CYCLE THEN VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN THEN THE SITTING PRESIDENT PRESIDENT TRUMP. YOU CAN WATCH PREVIOUS DEBATES IF YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE C-SPAN.ORG WE ALSO HAVE PREVIOUS VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES. WE ARE 30 MINUTES AWAY FROM THE CNN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE THE FIRST ONE OF THIS 2024 ELECTION CYCLE BEING HELD BEFORE THESE TWO CANDIDATES HAVE BEEN OFFICIALLY NOMINATED BY THEIR PARTIES THEY ARE THE PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEES TONIGHT. CNN REPORTING THEY WERE GOING THROUGH FINAL PREP RIGHT NOW BEFORE THE 9:00 P.M. EASTERN START WE ARE ASKING ALL OF YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM TONIGHT IV IN WASHINGTON SUPPORTING THE FORMER PRESIDENT YOUR TURN. >> Caller: THANK YOU, CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> WE CAN. >> OKAY. [INAUDIBLE] I THINK MY ISSUE IS IMMIGRATION. OTHERS LIKE CITIZENSHIP I THINK IT'S. [INAUDIBLE] SHOULD BE LIMITED TO PRIVATE CITIZENS. I ALSO BELIEVE IN THOSE CASES WE NEED TO ADDRESS AGRICULTURE. AND FROM THE USDA HAVE NOT PAID OUT THOSE AWARDS AS OF YET VERY. >> IVY A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND YOU BECAUSE OF AN ECHO THERE. I THINK WHERE THE GIST OF IT ON IMMIGRATION. KEVIN IN FORT WAYNE, INDIANA UNDECIDED. WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? TO DECIDE? >> Caller: I AM WAITING TO SEE IF I CAN STOP BEING A POLITICAL ATHEIST. >> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? >> I WILL EXPLAIN IN THESE TERMS. MR. TRUMP HAS SHOWN A TOTAL LACK OF RESPECT FOR OUR INSTITUTIONS OF GOVERNMENT. THAT EXTENDS ACROSS THE SPECTRUM FROM THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH TO OBVIOUSLY THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH PROGRESS OR LACK OF RESPECT CAN YOU TELL US WHAT YOU WANT FROM PRESIDENT BIDEN? >> I LIKE PRESIDENT BIDEN TO POINT THAT OUT SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AS A MATTER OF EXPLAINING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AS HE IS ATTEMPTED RECENTLY. WHY MR. TRUMP ISN'T TERRIBLY UNFIT TO EVER BE PRESIDENT AGAIN OF THE UNITED STATES FOR. >> KEVIN WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT AND GO INSIDE THE SPIN ROOM CALIFORNIA GOVERNOR GAVIN NEWSOM IS TALKING TO THE MEDIA A SUPPORTER OF PRESIDENT BIDEN. >> HE WAS TALKING ABOUT SINKING ELECTRIC VOTES THE TELEPROMPTER WENT OFF AND HE PANICKED. THERE ARE SOME LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS THERE AS WELL. ASK HOW YOU COUNSEL SOMEONE IS MORE DEBATE EXPERIENCE IN ANY MODERN AMERICAN PRESIDENT? HE HAS BEEN AT THIS MORE THAN ANYBODY WHAT IT WANTED TO DO IS SAY CAN YOU COUNSEL ME ON HOW TO RELAX TONIGHT? SOMEWHAT NOT UP THERE PROBABLY MORE ANXIETY THAN HE DOES. HE DELIVERS EACH AND EVERY TIME YOU HAVE SEEN IT. LOOK AT BACK HEAT MEETS THESE MOMENTS, HE DELIVERS I HONESTLY HAVE ALL THE CONFIDENCE IN THE WORLD HE'LL DO THAT AGAIN TONIGHT. THE ONLY THING THAT IS INTERESTING IS HOW THIS MIGHT ISSUE WILL PLAY OUT FOR. >> TELL US MORE ABOUT THAT. THAT MUTE BUTTON IS NEW WE'VE NEVER HAD THAT BEFORE. >> IS JUST INTERESTING. ALL OF US ARE INTERESTED, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN HERE'S A GUY WHO TALKS OVER AND TRIES TO BULLY EVERYBODY IT'S ALL ABOUT INTIMIDATION. IT'S ALL ABOUT TRYING TO GET SOMEONE OFF THEIR SCRIPTND OFF THEIR GAME. IT PLAYS VERY DIFFERENTLY HE SITTING THERE MOUTHING OFF ON A SPLIT SCREEN PEOPLE WILL SAY WHY IS HE TALKING AND I CAN'T HEAR HIM HE LOOKS MORE UNHINGED HE IS REASONABLY ALREADY UNHINGED. THAT MAY TEMPER HIS TEMPERAMENT TONIGHT HAVING THE MIC NOT BEING ON I DON'T KNOW WE'LL HAVE TO SEE. CORRECT GOVERNOR GAVIN NEWSOM THROUGH VIEW COULD GO BACK TO 2020 TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT TONIGHT WILL BE LIKE DIFFERENT RULES AS WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT. BACK IN 2020 DURING THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE THE FORMER THEN PRESIDENT TRUMP INTERRUPTED THEN VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN OVER 100 TIMES BUT AS YOU HEARD FROM THE GOVERNOR AS YOU HEARD THROUGHOUT LEADING UP TO TONIGHT'S DEBATE THE MICROPHONE WILL BE MUTED. AND SO THEY HELP THAT IS GOING TO CUT DOWN ON INTERRUPTION. AN ISSUE DISCUSSED BACK IN 2020 LIKELY TO COME UP AGAIN THIS EVENING IS THE ISSUE OF ABORTION. BACK IN 2020 AND THAT DEBATE: FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S APPOINTMENT OF AMY KONY VARICK TO THE SUPREME COURT HERE'S HOW THE TOPIC PLAYED OUT BEFORE THE STRIKING DIDN'T DOWN OF ROE V WADE. >> IS THE PRESIDENT ALSO IS OPPOSED TO ROE V WADE. THAT IS ON THE BALLOT AS WELL AND IN THE COURT. THAT IS ALSO AT STAKE RIGHT NOW. AND SO THE ELECTION FOR. PROGRESS YOUDON'T KNOW WHAT'S OT WHY IS IT ON THE BALLOT? IT'S NOT ON THE BALLOT. IT IS ON THE BALLOT IN THE COURT. >> THERE IS NOTHING HAPPENING THERE. YOU DO NOT KNOW HER VIEW ON ROE V WADE. THE FACT IS EVERYTHING HE IS SAYING SO FAR SIMPLY A LIE I'M NOT HERE TO CALL AT HIS LIES EVERYONE KNOWS HE IS A LIAR. I WANT TO MAKE SURE PICKWICK SHOULD GRADUALLY LESSEN YOUR CLASS NOT FIRST IN YOUR CLASS. >> MR. PRESIDENT CAN YOU HIM HAE FINISHED THEIR QUESTION. >> ISSUE IS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SHOULD SPEAK. YOU SHOULD GO OUT AND VOTE YOU ARE IN VOTING AND OUTPUT VOTE LET YOUR SENATORS KNOW HOW STRONGLY YOU FEEL. VOTE NOW. MAKE SURE YOU IN FACT LET PEOPLE KNOW I'M NOT GOING TO ANSWER THE QUESTION BECAUSE THE QUESTION IS. >> THE RADICAL LEFT BECAUSE YOU SHUT UP, WHO WAS ON YOUR LIST, JOE? WHO IS ON YOUR LIST? >> GENTLEMEN WE HAVE ENDED THE SEGMENT WERE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE SECOND SEGMENT TOO. >> I WAS A REALLY PRODUCTIVE SEGMENT, WASN'T IT? KEEP YAPPING, MAN THE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND. >> FROM SEPTEMBER OF 2020 THE TWO CANDIDATES THEN TALKING ABOUT ABORTION ISSUE THAT COULD COME UP TONIGHT BUT WE ARE ASKING ALL OF YOU WHAT ISSUES YOU WANT THEM TO TALK ABOUT. MELINDA AND CARL'SET YOU ARE US SUPPORTING A THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATE, IS THAT RIGHT? >> Caller: YES I AM. >> Host: AND WHO WHAT CANDIDATE? >> Caller: I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT RFK JUNIOR REGARDLESS OF WHETHER HE IS INCLUDED IN THIS DEBATE I BELIEVE HE IS TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE UNITED STATES PEOPLE. >> Host: ARE YOU GOING TO BE WATCHING HIS REACTION AND RESPONSE OF THE TWO CANDIDATES ON X? >> I WILL BE DOING THEM BOTH SIMULTANEOUSLY. HOWEVER WHAT REALLY CONCERNS ME ALL ABOUT THIS DEBATE AND THIS IS WITH THE PRIMARIES AS WELL, IS CENSORSHIP. I WOULD LOVE EITHER CANDIDATE WHO IS ON THE STAGE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ABOUT CENSORSHIP. BUT WHY WOULD WE NOT INCLUDE A THIRD CANDIDATE THAT HAS SUBMITTED APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF SIGNATURES BUT THE STATES WOULD NOT CERTIFY THEM. I THINK AVERAGE AMERICANS ARE FEELING MORE DISENFRANCHISED EVERY DAY. I CARE ABOUT ILLNESS I'M PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE FIVE STATES ARE WITH KANSAS PURSUING VISOR. I'VE SEEN BUSINESSES GOING UNDER PEOPLE LOSING THEIR HOUSES DURING COVID I WAS A VERY DEMOCRATIC PROBE BIDEN AT THAT TIME I WAS REALLY BELIEVING THIS IS WHAT IS SAVING US. AND I FEEL VERY DUPED. I FEEL VERY DUPED INTO WATCHING HOW THE PRIMARIES HAVE WENT DOWN, FORWARD IT JUST SAID BIDEN IS THE ONLY ONE IN THE PRIMARY. WHY WANT TO SUPPORT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHO HAS HAD MY TOTAL LOYALTY I WORKED FOR THEM AND I'M EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED. I LIKE THE IDEAS AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME A VOICE I APPRECIATE. >> ABSOLUTELY ADRIAN AND LAKELAND, FLORIDA SUPPORTING PRESIDENT BIDEN. >> YES, HELLO. >> WHAT ISSUES DO YOU WANT THE TO CHECK DEBATE TONIGHT? >> FIRST OF ALL LET ME SAY I'VE BEEN WATCHING EXIT PRESIDENT TRUMP SINCE THE 1980s. ALL HE HAS EVER DONE WAS RIP OFF PEOPLE, BANKRUPT COMPANIES AND ALLY. THE SLOGAN FOR HIM SHOULD BE THE TRUTH IS I ALWAYS LIE THAT'S ALL HE DOES. FOR THIS COUNTRY TO GO AND SUPPORT AND INSURRECTIONIST AND THE PEOPLE IN CONGRESS WHO SUPPORT HIM THE 118th CONGRESS IS GOTTEN NOTHING DONE. NOTHING BECAUSE OF THE INADEQUATE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN ELECTED TO SERVE HIM OVER OUR CONSTITUTION. WHEN EVERYBODY TAKES AN OATH, INCLUDING THE SUPREME COURT WHOEVER TAKES THE OATH THEY ARE NOT MERELY WORDS ON A PAGE. THEY MEAN SOMETHING PICKER ARE ADRIAN AND FLORIDA SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE MENTIONED THE ISSUE OF IMMIGRATION LIKELY TO COME UP AGAIN TONIGHT, BORDER SECURITY ET CETERA. IMMIGRATION AND BORDER SECURITY BROUGHT UP IN 2020 DURING THE TWO DEBATES AS WELL. THIS IS WHAT THE TWO CANDIDATES WERE SAYING ON IT AT THE SECOND AND FINAL DEBATE OF 2020 IN NASHVILLE. >> MR. PRESIDENT YOU ARE IN MINISTRATION SEPARATED CHILDREN FROM THEIR PARENTS AT THE BORDER AT LEAST 4000 KIDS IF SINCE REVERSE ZERO-TOLERANCE POLICY BUT THE UNITED STATES CANNOT LOCATE THE PARENTS OF MORE THAN 500 CHILDREN SO HOW WILL THESE FAMILIES EVER BE REUNITED? >> CHILDREN ARE BROUGHT HERE BY COYOTES AND LOTS OF BAD PEOPLE CARTELS AND THEY ARE BROUGHT HERE IN THE USE USE THEM TO GET INTO OUR COUNTRY WE HAVE A STRONG A BORDER AS WE HAVE EVER HAD. WE ARE OVER 400 MILES A BRAND-NEW WHILE YOU SEE THE NUMBERS AND WE LET PEOPLE IN BUT THEY HAVE TO COME IN LEGALLY. >> HOW WILL YOU REUNITE THESE KIDS WITH THEIR FAMILIES MR. PRESIDENT? >> THEY USED TO SAY I BUILT THE CAGES. AND THEN THEY HAD A PICTURE IN A CERTAIN NEWSPAPER PURRS A PICTURE OF THESE HORRIBLE CAGES AND THEY SAID LOOK AT THESE CAGES. PRESIDENT TRUMP BUILT THEM THEN IT WAS DETERMINED THEY WERE BUILT IN 2014. THAT WAS HIM. >> HE PLANS TO REUNITE THE KIDS? X WE ARE TRYING VERY HARD. A LOT OF THE KIDS COME OUT WITH THE PARENTS THEY COME OVER THERE CARTELS AND THROUGH COYOTES AND THREE GANGS. >> 500 PLUS KIDS CAME WITH PARENTS OR THEY SEPARATED THEM AT THE BORDER TO MAKE IT A DISINCENTIVE TO BEGIN WITH. WE ARE TOUGH AND REALLY STRONG AND GUESS WHAT COYOTES DID NOT BRING THEM OVER THEIR PARENTS WERE WITH THEM. THEY GOT SEPARATED FROM THEIR PARENTS AND THAT MAKES US THE LAUGHING STOCK AND VIOLATES EVERY NOTION OF WHO WE ARE AS A NATION. PARENTS KIDS WERE RIPPED FROM THEIR ARMS AND SEPARATED. THEY HAVE OVER 500 SETS OF THOSE PARENTS AND THOSE KIDS ARE ALONE. NOWHERE TO GO. NOWHERE TO GO. IT IS A CRIMINAL. IT ISN'T CRIMINAL OR. >> I WILL SAY THIS THEY WENT DOWN WITH THE REPORTERS AND EVERYTHING THEY ARE SO WELL TAKEN CARE OF. THEY ARE IN FACILITIES THAT ARE SO CLEAN PICKWICK SET UP NOT BEEN REUNITED OR. >> LESS ASK ONE QUESTION WHO BUILT THE CAGES I WOULD LOVE TO ASK THAT WHO BUILT THE CAGES? WHAT'S OATH ASK ABOUT YOUR OBAMA FAILED TO DELIVER IMMIGRATION REFORM HAVE BEEN A KEY PROMISE DURING THE ADMINISTRATION ALSO PROVIDED OF A RECORD DEPORTATION AS WELL AS FAMILY DETENTION AT THE BOARD BEFORE CHANGING COURSE SO WHY SHOULD VOTERS TRUST YOU WITH IMMIGRATION OVERHAUL NOW? >> HE MADE THE MISTAKE IT TOOK TOO LONG TO GET IT RIGHT. IT TOOK TOO LONG TO GET IT RIGHT WITHIN 100 DAYS I'M GOING TO SEND TO THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS A PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP FOR OVER 11 MILLION UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE ALL OF THOSE SO-CALLED DREAMERS, THE DOCKET KIDS ARE GOING TO BE IMMEDIATELY CERTIFIED TO BE ABLE TO STAY IN THIS COUNTRY AND PUT ON A PATH TO CITIZENSHIP. THE IDEA HERE BEING SENT HOME BY THE SKY AND THEY WANT TO DO THAT IS THEY GO INTO A COUNTRY THEY'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE I CAN IMAGINE YOU'RE FIVE YEARS OLD, YOUR PARENTS ARE TAKING YOU ACROSS THE RIO GRANDE RIVER AND IT IS ILLEGAL THEY SAY OH NO, LEAVE ME HERE I'M NOT GOING TO GO WITH YOU. MANY AREN'T MODEL CITIZENS OVER 20000 OUR FIRST RESPONDERS OUT THERE TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE DURING THIS CRISIS. WE OWE THEM. >> HE HAD EIGHT YEARS TO DO WHAT HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO. WITHOUT HAVING A SPECIFIC WE GOT RID OF CATCH AND RELEASE. WE GOT RID OF A LOT OF HORRIBLE THINGS THEY PUT IN AND THEY LIVED WITH. HE HAD EIGHT YEARS HE WAS VICE PRESIDENT, HE DID NOTHING IT JUST SHOWS HE HAS NO UNDERSTANDING OF IMMIGRATION OF THE LAWS. CATCH AND RELEASE IS A DISASTER OR A MURDERER WOULD COME IN, A RAPIST WOULD COME IN VERY BAD AD PERSON WOULD COME IN. WE WOULD TAKE THEIR NAME WE HAVE TO RELEASE THEM INTO OUR COUNTRY AND THEN YOU SAY THEY COME BACK. LESS THAN 1% OF THE PEOPLE COME BACK. WE HAVE TO SEND ICE OUT AND BORDER PATROL OUT TO SEND THEM TO FIND THAT WE WOULD SAY COME BACK IN TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS WERE GOING TO GIVE YOU A COURT CASE YOU NEED. MASON MOVE WILL GIVE YOU A COURT CASE WHEN YOU SAY THEY COME BACK, THEY DON'T COME BACK, JOE THEY NEVER COME BACK ONLY THE REALLY, I HATE TO SAY THIS BUT THOSE WITH THE LOWEST IQ THEY MIGHT COME BACK. >> THE TWO CANDIDATES BACK IN 2020 THE SECOND AND FINAL DEBATE OF THAT ELECTION CYCLE WE ARE JUST LESS THAN 15 MINUTES AWAY FROM THIS YEAR'S FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE HOSTED BY CNN SIMULCASTING HERE ON THE C-SPAN NETWORK YOU ARE LOOKING ALIVE PICTURE OF THE SPIN ROOM THE SUPPORTERS FOR THE CANDIDATES WILL GO AND TALK TO THE MEDIA FOLLOWING THE DEBATE. HERE AT OUR STUDIO C-SPAN JOINING US PETER IS GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF MEDIA AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS HE IS THE CHAIR THERE TO TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF DEBATES. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THE VERY FIRST TELEVISED PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE WAS IN 1960 OUR VIEWERS KNOW BETWEEN JOHN F. KENNEDY AND RICHARD NIXON. HOW DID THAT DEBATE CHANGE CAMPAIGN? WHAT DEBATING BECAME PART OF THE NORM AND BECAME PART OF THE TELEVISION ERA CAMPAIGNS CAN BE IN THE LIVER THAT HAVE GO TO A HALL OR FIELD TO WATCH THE DEBATE THEY CAME TO OUR HOUSE. SINCE THEN HAS BEEN PART OF THE TRADITION OF AMERICAN POLITICS EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS WE ARE JOINED IN HER LIVER MECHANICS FOR PRESIDENT, SENATE, HOUSE, MAYOR OR WHATEVER THEY MAKE THEIR BEST CASE FOR THEMSELVES BUT. >> IS NO AUDIENCE THEN THERE IS NO AUDIENCE TONIGHT. HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE OUTCOME OF THIS DEBATE? >> I'M NOT SURE IT IMPACTS THE OUTCOME OF THE DEBATE MIGHT IMPACT HOW THE DEBATERS RESPOND COMPARING 1960 TO 2024 IS A BIT OF A STRETCH THERE IS NO AUDIENCE BUT A LOT ELSE HAS CHANGED. IT'S A LOOK ATHE CANDIDATES TRUMP FEEDS OFF A CROWD HE LIKES A BIG AUDIENCE HE LIKES THE FEEDBACK. PRESIDENT BIDEN IS BETTER IN A SMALLER SETTING IS BETTER ONE ON ONE THAT'S HOW HE SPENT HIS CAREER. LACK OF A FORMAL AUDIENCE WILL HELP PRESIDENT BIDEN IT'S A VENUE HE IS USED TO. I'M NOT SURE IT'S ONE THAT WILL BENEFIT TRUMP BECAUSE AGAIN HE LIKES THE ENERGY DEFEATS UP THE ENERGY AND IT WON'T BE THERE FOR ANOTHER DIFFERENCE WILL BE THE MICROPHONES ARE GOING TO BE MUTED ONE CANADA HAS THE FLOOR. WE SAW THE FORMER PRESIDENT BACK IN 2020 AND THE FIRST DEBATE INTERRUPTED THEN VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN OVER 100 TIMES. AFTER THE FIRST DEBATE IS POLL NUMBERS WENT DOWN THE THEN SITTING PRESIDENT'S POLL NUMBERS WENT OUT HOW TO THINK THAT MUTED MICROPHONES PLAY OUT TONIGHT? >> IT DEFINITELY AGAIN HOPEFULLY BRINGS CONTROL TO THE DEBATE BUT A LITTLE LESS CHAOTIC. LOTS BEEN MADE ABOUT THE MIC WILL BE TURNED OFF WHEN THEIR TIME IS UP. THOUGH ONE COULD IMAGINE PRESIDENT TRUMP SPEAKS LOUDLY ENOUGH PRESIDENT BIDEN WILL PROBABLY KICK IT UP AS WELL. HOPEFULLY AGAIN LB THROUGH A MORE INFORMED CONVERSATION HELP VOTERS MAKE UP THEIR MIND RATHER THAN PUTTING IT ON THE PLAYGROUND PICKWICK SEAT MUTED MICROPHONE IS ONE CHANGE FOR THIS CNN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE THE COMMISSION ON PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE HAS BEEN THE ORGANIZATION UP UNTIL NOW OVER MANY DECADES HAVE BEEN THE ONES WHO HAVE SPONSORED AND ORGANIZED THESE DEBATES. HOW IS TONIGHT DIFFERENT WITHOUT THE COMMISSION DURING THE DEBATE? SOME OF THE RULES ARE DIFFERENT OTHERWISE THE CANDIDS WOULD'VE GONE TO COMMISSIONS MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE HAVING DEBATES AND WHO IS CONTROLLING THE DEBATES. WE WILL SEE THIS IF THIS WORKS THEN THERE'S OFFICE HE IS SCHEDULED DEBATE IN SEPTEMBER ON ABC IF THIS WORKS MAYBE THIS IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT THAT WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT IS THE REINFORCEMENT OF DEMOCRATIC NORM WITH SEEN ATTACK ON DEMOCRATIC NORMS AND ATTACK ON DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS WITH COURTS, CONGRESS, PRESS, UNIVERSITIES THINGS CLOSE TO YOUR AND MY PART THE FACT THEY'RE HAVING DEBATES PART OF POLITICS IS NORMAL YOU ORGANIZE THAT AMOUNT IS LESS THAN THE FACT THERE HAPPENING. BUCKS ANOTHER INTERESTING TIDBIT ABOUT TONIGHT'S YOU HAVE ONE CANDIDATE RUNNING FOR REELECTION THEN YOU HAVE THE OTHER WHO IS ATTEMPTING A NONCONSECUTIVE RUN. TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THAT PICKWICK THAT HAPPENED ONCE SUCCESSFULLY BACKWARD MUTTON CHOPS WERE A BIG DEAL I'M NOT SURE WE WILL BE ABLE TO REPEAT THAT. WE HAVE TWO BASIC INCUMBENTS RUNNING ON THEIR RECORD AND AGAINST THEIR OPPONENTS RECORD WHICH IS A NEW WRINKLE. >> YOU SAID THERE WAS ONE SUCCESSFUL PRESIDENT, GROVER CLEVELAND HAD A NONCONSECUTIVE RUN AT ONE FIRST TERM IN 1884. DEFEATED IN 1888. RAN AGAIN AND ONE IN 1892. SO IF YOU WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL AT WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO? AS A FORMER PRESIDENT APPROACH THIS DIFFERENTLY? HE IS ATTEMPTING A NONCONSECUTIVE BID FOR THE WHITE HOUSE. >> WHAT WE KNOW IT WORKS IS DUE IN 1892 WITH CERTAIN CAN LOSE FROM 2020 FOR THE BOTH RUN UNDER RECORD THESE ARE BOTH KNOWN COMMODITIES PEOPLE KNOW PRESIDENT BIDEN FROM HIS TIME AS A PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT U.S. SENATE EVEN THOUGH DONALD TRUMP IS REALITY TELEVISION SHOW FROM HEADLINES IN NEW YORK AND EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED IN BETWEEN. WE ARE NOT LEARNING MUCH NEW ABOUT THESE GUYS ARE GOING TO WATCH TO SEE HOW THEY COMPORT THEMSELVES. MOSTLY PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING OUR PARTIES IN THE PRESS AND MOSTWILL SAY I TOLD YOU SO. OUT OF TOUCH AND INCOHERENT AND DANGEROUS AND WANT MY GUY CAN SAVE THE REPUBLIC. I EXPECT THAT IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE IT WE'LL SEE HOW MUCH IT ACTUALLY MATTERS IN THE LONG RUN FOR CAMPAIGNS AGREED TO THIS DEBATE IN PART THEY SAID VOTERS ARE USING MAIL IN BALLOTS AND EARLY VOTING IN RECORD NUMBERS THEY WANT TO HOLD THE DEBATE NOW AND JUNE NOT IN SEPTEMBER AFTER THE CONVENTIONS. IN THIS NEW SCHEDULE OF MEETING THE VOTERS DO YOU EXPECT THERE WILL BE A LARGE AUDIENCE TONIGHT AT HOME? WORKS OR MIGHT BE THERE MIGHT BE NUMBERS FOR THE DEBATES GOING UP IN RECENT YEARS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 2020 BUT PEOPLE ARE TUNING AND A LOT OF PEOPLE TUNING IN HER PARTISAN. GUESS EARLY VOTING MATTERS NOBODY'S RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT YET THESE GUYS ARE NOT EVEN THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN UNTIL THE CONVENTION I THINK THE ONE IN SEPTEMBER WILL BE MORE ON TRACK FOR EARLY VOTING PART ONE OF THINGS WE KNOW FROM THE SCIENCE RESEARCH DEBATES MATE MOVE SOME POLLING SOMETIMES BUT THEY DO NOT TEND TO MOVE VERY MANY VOTES OF ONE GUY DOES REALLY WELL AND ONE DOES POORLY IN THE POLLING NUMBERS MAY SHIFT BUT THEY'LL SETTLE BACK TO THEIR NORMAL PLACE AND AGAIN YOU'VE GOT THE CONVENTION SIMILARLY IT WILL SETTLE IN. I AM REALLY NOT SURE AT TONIGHT'S DEBATE DOES MUCH FOR THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION NEITHER OF THESE GUYS A WIN THE ELECTION TONIGHT. ONE COULD IMAGINE TONIGHT MAKING THE ELECTION TRICKIER FOR ONE CANDIDATE OR THE OTHER MOST OF US OR THINK ABOUT FOURTH OF JULY A WEEK IT WERE NOT THINKING ABOUT ELECTION IN NOVEMBER. >> THIS AGE MATTER TONIGHT? CLICK DONALD TRUMP IS CERTAINLY GOING TO TRY TO MAKE IT MATTER IS GOING TO SAY HIS OPPONENT IS OLD AND OUT OF TOUCH YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THE REAGAN -- I WILL MAKE MY EXPERIENCE AN ISSUE. CERTAINLY IT DONALD TRUMP AND JOE BIDEN BOTH WANT TO MAKE THEIR OPPONENT THE WORSE A CARICATURE OF THEIR OPPONENT POSSIBLE AND PART OF THE CARICATURE OF A BIDEN'S HE IS OLD AND GUMMING HIS JELL-O WE WILL SEE IF THAT WORKS. >> FORMER PRESIDENT IS 78. PRESIDENT BIDEN'S 81 THERE IS THREE YEARS DIFFERENCE THERE. >> THAT IS TRUE PEOPLE TEND TO TALK BY AGE THE MOST OF THE PRESIDENT SAY SO PRESIDENT BIDEN IS REALLY OLD, WHAT YOU THINK OF VOTERS GO WHILE I GUESS IS REALLY OLD BUT MATTERS HIS MENTAL ACUITY WITH SEEN AGAIN AND AGAIN BIDEN AT THE STATE OF UNION ADDRESS AT OTHERS HAS SHOWN UP AT BIG MOMENTS UNDER THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN IS HOPING TO DO THAT TONIGHT TO SAY HE IS ON TOP OF HIS GAME AND SHARP AS A TECHIE SHUFFLES A BIT AND LOOKS OLD BECAUSE 81 IS OLD MENTAL HE IS THERE HE'S THE GUY FOR THE JOB AND TRUMP IS GOING TO TRY TO UNDERMINE THEM. BOTH CAMPAIGNS WILL USE TONIGHT TO PULL CLIPS AND POLL VIDEOS OF THE WORST MOMENT OF THEIR OPPONENT POSSIBLE IN-STATE SEAT THIS IS WHAT MY OPPONENT IS ABOUT THIS MOMENT JOE BIDEN LOOKS OLD. >> IT IS NOT ABOUT POLICY. IT SOUNDS A LOT LIKE PERSONALITY ARE THOSE TWO ISSUES SO INTERTWINED? THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BY AND LARGE NOT VOTE IMPULSIVELY TO THINK WE DO BUT NONE OF US CARRIES ON THE SPREADSHEET IN HER HEAD BOUNCING THREE POINTS FOR ABORTION, TWO FOR GUNS AND DO THAT MATH AND DIVIDE BY FOUR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. MOST OF US ARE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS EVEN INDEPENDENTS ARE RELIABLY PARTISAN. WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IS MIKE I REALLY UP TO THE TASK? TRUMP HAS BEEN PICKING UP POINTS LATELY ONE OF THE DEMOCRAT ARGUMENT THERE'S A BUNCH BIT OF TRUMP AMNESIA HOPEFULLY THE BITING CAMPAIGN WILL REMIND VOTERS HEY HE SOUNDS A LITTLE WACKY FOR THE NEW NUMBERS WILL STAY BACK AGAIN IS NOT ON A POLICY. HAVE PARTISAN RULES WOULD HAVE A BORDER LAW WOULD HAVE A WALL IN THE SOUTHERN BORDER WE HAVE A LOT OF GUN CONTROL. WE HAVE NEITHER. BUT WE WANT IS SOMEONE WHO CAN REPRESENT AND SCAN FOR VALUES. THIS IS NEAT THIS IS WHO I WANT TO PROJECT MYSELF AND MY COUNTRY TO BE IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND IN BOTHGUYS ARE GOING TO WANT TT DEMONSTRATE THE TOP OF THE FACTS THAT RATIONAL OR REASONABLE THAT THEY GET THE TASK DONE WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY TRYING TO GOAD THE OPPONENT BETWEEN THE WORST CARICATURE OF HIMSELF OR. >> CHAIR AT THE SCHOOL OF MEDIA AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS AT GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIMELY APPRECIATED >> MANY THANKS ALWAYS HAPPY TO JOIN YOU. >> WE TALKED ABOUT PETER WAS TALKING ABOUT THEIR POLICY, THEIR RECORDS WILL COME UP TONIGHT. VOTERS WILL HAVE A RECORD FOR BOTH OF THESE CANDIDATES BUT THAT WASN'T ISSUE BACK IN 2020 AS WELL. TAKE A LOOK AT THE TWO CANDIDATES TALK ABOUT THEIR POLITICAL RECORDS AT THE FIRST DEBATE IN CLEVELAND. AGAIN THESE DEBATES THESE PREVIOUS DEBATES AND VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES FROM ALL CYCLES CAN BE FOUND IF YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE C-SPAN.ORG IF YOU HAVE MISSED ANY OF THEM YOU CAN FIND THEM THERE. BACK IN 2020 TALKING ABOUT THEIR POLITICAL RECORDS. >> LOOKING AT BOTH OF YOUR RECORDS I'M GOING TO ASK EACH OF YOU WHY IT SHOULD VOTERS ELECT TO YOU PRESIDENT OVER YOUR OPPONENT? >> BECAUSE THERE HASN'T NEVER BEEN AN ADMINISTRATION OR PRESIDENT WHO HAS DONE MORE THAN I HAVE DONE IN A PERIOD OF THREE AND HALF YEARS AND THAT IS DESPITE THE IMPEACHMENT HOAX AND YOU SAW IT HAPPEN TODAY WITH HILARY CLINTON WAS A WHOLE BIG CON JOB. BUT DESPITE GOING THROUGH ALL THESE THINGS I DO FIGHT BOTH FLANKS BEHIND ME AND ABOVE THERE IS NEVER BEEN AN ADMINISTRATION THAT IS DONE WHAT I HAVE DONE BEFORE COVID GIVEN THE GREATEST ECONOMY IN HISTORY THE LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS. EVERYTHING WAS GOOD EVERYTHING WAS GOING AND THERE WAS UNITY GOING TO HAPPEN PEOPLE WERE CALLING ME FOR THE FIRST TIME IN YEARS THEY WERE CALLING AND THEY WERE SAYING IT'S TIME MAYBE AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED WE GOT HIT BUT NOW ARE BUILDING IT BACK UP AGAIN OUR REBUILDING OF THE MILITARY INCLUDING SPACE FORCE AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS A FIXING OF THE VA WHICH WAS A MESS UNDER HIM 308,000 PEOPLE DIED BAUSE THEY DID NOT A PROPER HEALTHCARE THERE WAS A MESS. UNDER THIS PRESIDENT WE BECOME WEAKER, SICKER, POOR, MORE DIVIDED, AND MORE VIOLENT. WHEN I WAS VICE PRESIDENT WE INHERITED A RECESSION I WAS ASKED TO FIX IT, I DID WE LEFT HIM A BOOMING ECONOMY ANY COST A RECESSION. WITH REGARD TO BEING WEAKER THE FACT IS I AM GONNA HEAD TO HEAD WITH PUTIN AND MADE IT CLEAR TO HIM WERE NOT TAKING IN OF THE STUFF HE IS A POTENZA PUPPY HE REFUSES TO SAY THING TO PUTIN ABOUT THE BOUNTY ON THE HEADS OF THE AMERICAN SOLDIERS. >> NO, NO. >> EIGHT LOOK BACK AT THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE THE FIRST ONE THAT TOOK PLACE IN CLEVELAND BUT WE ARE ABOUT TWO MINUTES AWAY FROM TONIGHT'S 2024 PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE BUT WILL TRY TO GET IN DAVID WHO IS IN CALIFORNIA VOTING FOR THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE. THERE ONLY BE TWO CANDIDATES ON THE STAGE TONIGHT. WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM? >> I WANT TO HEAR SHUT THE BORDER QUIT LETTING THESE PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY. BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY PEOPLE COME INTO OUR COUNTRY ILLEGALLY WILL GET JOBS PAY THE RENT, THEIR FOOD EVERYTHING ELSE THAT LIVES THE SOCIAL SOCIAL SYSTEM GOING FOR THIS ISN'T RIGHT. THE BORDER NEEDS TO BE CLOSED AND PEOPLE NEED TO BE DEPORTED BECAUSE AMERICA FIRST PROGRESS IMMIGRATION IS YOUR ISSUE THAT YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THESE CANDIDATES. WHO ARE YOU SUPPORTING IN NOVEMBER? >> DONALD TRUMP. >> WHY? >> I FEEL HE LOVES AMERICA. HE WANTS AMERICA TO BEAT NUMBER ONE AND HE IS FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HE IS NOT FOR THE GLOBALISTS HE IS NOT FOR THE CORPORATIONS HE IS NOT OUT THERE TTING MONEY IN FOR HIMSELF. AND FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP. FOLLOWING THE DEBATE, OUR COVERAGE CONTINUES RIGHT HERE. WE WILL TAKE YOUR PHONE CALLS AND REACTION ON SOCIAL MEDIA. WE WILL ALSO BE LIVE WITH THE CAMPAIGN INSIDE. ♪♪ WE ARE LIVE FROM GEORGIA A KEY BATTLEGROUND ESTATE IN THE RACE FOR THE WHITE HOUSE. IN JUST MOMENTS, THE CURRENT U.S. PRESIDENT WILL DEBATE THE FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT AS THEIR PARTY'S PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEES, FIRST IN AMERICAN HISTORY. WE WANT TO WELCOME OUR VIEWERS IN THE UNITED STATES AND AROUND THE WORLD TO OUR STUDIOS IN ATLANTA. THIS IS THE CNN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. THIS DEBATE IS BEING PRODUCED BY CNN AND IS COMING TO YOU LIVE ON CNN, CNN INTERNATIONAL, CNN.COM, CNN MAX AND S DANIEL. THIS IS A PIVOTAL MOMENT BETWEEN PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN AND FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP IN THEIR REMATCH FOR THE NATION'S HIGHEST OFFICE. EACH WILL MAKE HIS CASE. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WITH JUST OVER FOUR MONTHS UNTIL ELECTION DAY. GOOD EVENING I'M DANA BASH AND COANCHOR OF STATE OF THE UNION. >> I'M JAKE TAPPER, ANGER OF THE LEAD AND COANCHOR OF STATE OF THE UNION. DANA AND I WILL CO-MODERATE. OUR JOB IS TO FACILITATE THE DEBATE BETWEEN THE TWO CANDIDATES TONIGHT. BEFORE WE INTRODUCE THEN WE WANT TO SHARE THE RULES OF THE DEBATE. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL BE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, PRESIDENT BIDEN WILL BE ON THE RIGHT. A COIN TOSS WILL DETERMINE THEIR POSITION. EACH CANDIDATE WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO ANSWER A QUESTION AND ONE MINUTE EACH FOR RESPONSES AND REBUTTALS. AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE FOR CLARIFYING RESPONSE IS THAT THE MODERATOR'S DISCUSSION. >> WHEN IT'S TIME FOR THE CANDIDATES TO SPEAK, HIS MICROPHONE WILL BE TURNED ON AND THE OPPONENT'S MICROPHONE WILL BE TURNED OFF. SHOULD THE CANDIDATES INTERRUPT WHEN HIS MICROPHONE IS MUTED, IT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND FOR THE VIEWERS AT HOME. AT THE END OF THE DEBATE, EACH CANDIDATE WILL GET TWO MINUTES FOR A CLOSING STATEMENT. THERE IS NO STUDIO AUDIENCE TONIGHT. PRE- WRITTEN NOTES, PROPS OR CONTACT WITH CAMPAIGN STAFF ARE NOT PERMITTED TO DURING THE DEBATE. BY ACCEPTING OUR INVITATION, BOTH CANDIDATES AND THEIR CAMPAIGN AGREED TO ACCEPT THESE RULES. >> NOW PLEASE WELCOME THE 46TH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, JOE BIDEN. >> AND PLEASE WELCOME THE 45TH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, DONALD TRUMP. GENTLEMEN, THANKS FOR BEING HERE. LET'S BEGIN THE DEBATE AND START WITH OF THE ISSUE VOTERS CONSISTENTLY SAY IS THEIR TOP CONCERN, THE ECONOMY. PRESIDENT BIDEN, INFLATION HAS SLOWED BUT PRICES REMAIN HIGH. SINCE YOU TOOK OFFICE THE PRICE OF ESSENTIALS HAS INCREASED. FOR EXAMPLE A BASKET OF GROCERIES THAT COST $100 THEN NOW COST MORE THAN $120. AND A TYPICAL HOME PRICES HAVE JUMPED MORE THAN 30%. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO VOTERS WHO FEEL THEY ARE WORSE OFF UNDER YOUR PRESIDENCY THEN THEY WERE THAN THEY WEREUNDER PRESIDENT T? >> YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WAS LEFT WHEN I BECAME PRESIDENT, WHAT MR. TRUMP LEFT ME. WE HAD AN ECONOMY IN FREEFALL AND SO BADLY HANDLED. MANY PEOPLE WERE DYING AND ALL HE SAID IS IT'S NOT THAT SERIOUS. INJECT A LITTLE BLEACH INTO YOUR ARM. YOU'LL BE ALRIGHT. THE ECONOMY COLLAPSED. THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE ROSE TO 15%. IT WAS TERRIBLE. SO WHAT WE HAD TO TRY TO DO IS PUT THINGS BACK TOGETHER AGAIN. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE BEGAN TO DEMAND CREATED 15,000 NEW JOBS AND BROUGHT A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE 8,000 NEW MANUFACTURING JOBS. BUT THERE'S MORE TO BE DONE. THE WORKING CLASS PEOPLE ARE STILL IN TROUBLE. I COME FROM SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA. A HOUSEHOLD WHERE AT THE KITCHEN TABLE THINGS WERE NOT ABLE TO BE MET WASN'T A PROBLEM. THE PRICE OF EGGS, GAS, PRICE OF HOUSING, ALL THINGS. THAT'S WHY I'M WORKING SO HARD TO MAKE SURE I DEAL WITH THOSE PROBLEMS, AND WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE TO REDUCE THE PRICE OF HOUSING. WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE BUILD 2 MILLION NEW UNITS AND CAP RANDY SCORPORATE GREED CAN'T TAKE OVER. THE COMBINATION OF THE CORPORATE GREED IS THE REASON WE ARE IN THIS PROBLEM RIGHT NOW. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THAT WAS DONE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION, HE DIDN'T DO MUCH AT ALL. BY THE TIME HE LEFT, THINGS WERE IN CHAOS, LITERALLY CHAOS. SO WE PUT THINGS BACK TOGETHER AND CREATED JOBS AND MADE SURE WE HAD A SITUATION WHERE WE NOW PUT DOWN THE PRICE OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, WHICH IS A MAJOR ISSUE FOR MANY PEOPLE. FIFTEEN DOLLARS FOR AN INSULIN SHOT AS OPPOSED TO $400. NO SENIOR HAS TO PAY MORE THAN $200 FOR ANY OR ALL DRUGS BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR. THE SITUATION -- WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO EVERYBODY, ALL AMERICANS. WE ARE WORKING TO BRING DOWN THE PRIZE AROUND THE KITCHEN TABLE AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GOING TO GET DONE. >> THANK YOU. PRESIDENT TRUMP. >> WE HAD THE GREATEST ECONOMY IN THE HISTORY. WE'VE NEVER DONE SO WELL. EVERYBODY WAS AMAZED BY IT AND OTHER COUNTRIES WERE COPYING US. WE GOT HIT WITH COVID, AND WHAT WE DID WE SPEND THE MONEY NECESSARY SO WE WOULDN'T END UP IN A GREAT DEPRESSION, THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAD IN 1929. BY THE TIME WE FINISHED WE DID A GREAT JOB AND HAD A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THE MILITARY AND NO WARS AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS AND EVERYTHING WAS GOOD. WE SHOULD HAVE CREDIT FOR GETTING US OUT OF THAT COVID MESS. HE CREATED OF MANDATES THAT WASA DISASTER FOR THE COUNTRY. WE HAVE GIVEN BACK A COUNTRY WHERE THE STOCK MARKET WAS HIGHER THAN PRE- COVID AND NOBODY THOUGHT THAT WAS EVEN POSSIBLE. THE ONLY JOBS HE CREATED ARE FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS AND BOUNCE BACK JOBS, BOUNCE BACK FROM COVID. HE'S NOT DONE A GOOD A JOB. HE DID A POOR JOB AND INFLATION IS KILLING OUR COUNTRY. IT'S ABSOLUTELY KILLING US. >> THANK YOU. PRESIDENT BIDEN. >> THE GREATEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD, HE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT THINKS THAT. I DON'T KNOW ANYONE ELSE THAT THINKS HE HAD THE GREATEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON THE SITUATION WHERE HIS ECONOMY, HE REWARDED THE WEALTHY. HE HAD THE LARGEST TAX CUT IN HISTORY, $2 TRILLION. HE RAISED THE DEFICIT LARGER THAN ANY PRESIDENT HAS IN ANY ONE TERM. THE ONLY PRESIDENT OTHER THAN HERBERT HOOVER THAT HAS LOST MORE JOBS THAN HE HAD WHEN HE BEGAN, SINCE HERBERT HOOVER. THE IDEA THAT HE DID SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT, AND THE MILITARY -- YOU KNOW, WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT, THEY WERE STILL OVER KILLING PEOPLE IN AFGHANISTAN AND HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT, WE DIDN'T HAVE A NOTION WE ARE A SAFE COUNTRY. THE TRUTH IS I'M THE ONLY PRESIDENT THIS CENTURY THAT DOESN'T COME OF THIS DECADE, THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY TROOPS ABIDING ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD LIKE HE DID. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP, I WANT TO FOLLOW UP IF I CAN -- >> ARE YOU GOING TO LET ME RESPOND TO HIM? >> YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT WITH OF THE MINUTE WE GIVE YOU. YOU WANT TO IMPOSE A 10% TARIFF ON ALL GOODS COMING INTO THE U.S. HOW WILL YOU ENSURE THAT DOESN'T DRIVE PRICES HIGHER? >> NOT GOING TO DRIVE THEM HIGHER, JUST DRIVE THE COUNTRIES RIPPING US OFF FOR YEARS LIKE CHINA AND MANY OTHERS IN ALL FAIRNESS TO CHINA, FORCED TO PAY MORE MONEY, REDUCE THE DEFICIT TREMENDOUSLY AND GIVE US A LOT OF POWER FOR OTHER THINGS. BUT HE MADE A STATEMENT THE ONLY THING HE WAS RIGHT ABOUT HIS I GAVE YOU THE LARGEST TAX CUT IN HISTORY. I ALSO GAVE YOU THE LARGEST REGULATION CUT IN HISTORY. THAT'S WHY WE HAD ALL THE JOBS AND THE JOBS WENT DOWN AND BOUNCED BACK AND HE'S TAKING CREDIT FOR THAT. YOU CAN DO THAT. HE ALSO SAID HE INHERITED 9% INFLATION, NO, HE INHERITED ALMOST NO INFLATION AND IT STAYED THAT WAY FOR 15 MONTHS AND THEN IT BLEW UP UNDER HIS LEADERSHIP BECAUSE THEY SPENT MONEY LIKE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. IT WAS PROBABLY THE WORST ADMINISTRATION IN HISTORY. AND AS FAR AS AFGHANISTAN IS CONCERNED, I WAS GETTING OUT OF AFGHANISTAN BUT GETTING OUT WITH DIGNITY, WITH STRENGTH, POWER. HE GOT OUT AND IT WAS THE MOST EMBARRASSING DAY IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY'S LIFE. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP, OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS UNDER BOTH ADMINISTRATIONS THE DEBTOR SOARED TO RECORD HIGHS AND ACCORDING TO A NONPARTISAN ANALYSIS, YOUR ADMINISTRATION APPROVED 8.4 MILLION WHILE SO FAR PRESIDENT BIDEN, YOU'VE APPROVED 4.3 MILLION. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP, MANY TAX CUTS ARE SET TO EXPIRE NEXT YEAR. YOU WANT TO EXTEND THEM AND GO EVEN FURTHER. WITH THE U.S. FACING DEFICITS AND RECORD DEBT, WHY SHOULD TOP EARNERS AND CORPORATIONS PAY EVEN LESS IN TAXES THAN THEY DO NOW? >> BECAUSE THE TAX CUTS SPURRED THE GREATEST ECONOMIES WE'VE SEEN PRIOR TO COVID AND EVEN AFTER COVID IT WAS SO STRONG WE WERE ABLE TO GET THROUGH COVID BETTER THAN JUST ABOUT ANY OTHER COUNTRY BUT WE SPURRED THAT. WHEN WE CUT THE TAXES, AS AN EXAMPLE THE CORPORATE TAX WAS CUT DOWN TO 21% TO 39%, PLUS BEYOND THAT. WE TOOK IN MORE REVENUE WITH MUCH LESS TAX, AND COMPANIES WERE BRINGING BACK TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS BACK INTO THE COUNTRY. THE COUNTRY WAS GOING LIKE NEVER BEFORE AND WE WERE READY TO START PAYING DOWN DEBT AND USING THE LIQUID GOLD RIGHT UNDER OUR FEET, THE OIL AND GAS RIGHT UNDER OUR FEET. WE WERE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING NOBODY ELSE HAS HAD. WE GOT HIT WITH COVID, WE DID A LOT TO FIX IT. I GAVE HIM AN UNBELIEVABLE SITUATION WITH ALL OF THE THERAPEUTICS AND ALL THE THINGS WE CAME UP WITH. WE GAVE HIM SOMETHING GREAT. REMEMBER, MORE PEOPLE DIED UNDER HIS ADMINISTRATION EVEN THOUGH WE HAD LARGELY FIXED IT. MORE PEOPLE DIED UNDER HIS ADMINISTRATION VAN OUR ADMINISTRATION AND WE WERE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, SOMETHING A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT BUT HE HAD A FAR MORE PEOPLE DYING IN HIS ADMINISTRATION. HE DID THE MANDATE WHICH IS A DISASTER, MANDATING IT. WHEN THE VACCINE WENT OUT HE DID A MANDATE ON THE VACCINE, WHICH IS THE THINGS PEOPLE MOST OBJECTED TO ABOUT THE VACCINE, AND HE DID A POOR JOB, A VERY POOR JOB. AND I WILL TELL YOU NOT ONLY POOR THEY ARE BUT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE WORLD WOULD NO LONGER RESPECT AS A COUNTRY. THEY DON'T RESPECT OUR LEADERSHIP, THEY DON'T RESPECT THE UNITED STATES ANYMORE. WE ARE LIKE A THIRD WORLD BETWEEN WEAPONIZATION OF HIS ELECTION WAS TRYING TO GO AFTER HIS POLITICAL OPPONENTS. ALL THE THINGS HE'S DONE, WE'VE BECOME LIKE A THIRD WORLD NATION AND IT'S A SHAME. THE DAMAGE HE'S DONE TO OUR COUNTRY -- AND I'D LOVE TO ASK HIM AND WELL, WHY HE ALLOWED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO COME HERE FROM PRISON, JAIL AND MENTAL INSTITUTIONS, TO COME INTO OUR COUNTRY AND DESTROY OUR COUNTRY. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP, WE WILL GET TO IMMIGRATION LATER IN THIS BLOCK. PRESIDENT BIDEN, I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTION AT THE NATIONAL DEBT. >> HE HAD THE LARGEST NATIONAL DEBT OF ANY PRESIDENT IN A FOUR-YEAR PERIOD, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, IT BENEFITED THE VERY WEALTHY. FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD A THOUSAND TRILLION ACRES IN AMERICA, I MEAN, BILLIONAIRES IN AMERICA AND WHAT'S HAPPENING? THEY ARE IN A SITUATION THERE'S 8.2% IN TAXES. IF THEY PAID 24%, 25%, EITHER OF THOSE, THEY WOULD RAISE $500 MILLION, BILLION DOLLARS I SHOULD SAY, IN A TEN YEAR PERIOD. WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO, CHILD CARE, ELDERLY CARE, MAKING SURE WE CONTINUE TO STRENGTHEN OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM, MAKING SURE WE ARE ABLE TO MAKE EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY PERSON ELIGIBLE IN DEALING WITH EVERYTHING WE HAVE TO DO WITH -- LOOK, IF WE FINALLY BEAT MEDICARE -- >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT BIDEN. PRESIDENT TRUMP. >> HE'S RIGHT, HE DID BEAT MEDICATED TO DEATH AND HE'S DESTROYING MEDICARE BECAUSE ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND PUTTING HIM ON MEDICARE AND PUTTING HIM ON SOCIAL SECURITY. THEY ARE GOING TO DESTROY SOCIAL SECURITY. THIS MAN IS GOING TO SINGLE-HANDEDLY DESTROY SOCIAL SECURITY. MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE COMING IN, TRYING TO PUT THEM ON SOCIAL SECURITY. HE WILL WIPE OUT SOCIAL SECURITY. HE WILL WIPE OUT MEDICARE. SO HE WAS RIGHT IN THE WAY YOU FINISHED THE SENTENCE AND IT'S A SHAME WHAT'S HAPPENED TO OUR COUNTRY IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS IS NOT TO BE BELIEVED. FOREIGN COUNTRIES HAVE FRIENDS WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE. THEY CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT'S HAPPENED TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WE ARE NO LONGER RESPECTED. THEY DON'T LIKE US. WE GIVE THEM EVERYTHING THEY WANT AND THEY THINK WE ARE STUPID. THEY THINK WE ARE VERY STUPID PEOPLE. WHAT WE ARE DOING FOR OTHER COUNTRIES AND THEY DO NOTHING FOR US. WHAT THIS MAN HAS DONE IS ABSOLUTELY CRIMINAL. >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT TRUMP. DANA? >> THIS IS THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION SINCE THE SUPREME COURT OVERTURNED ROE V WADE. THIS MORNING THE COURT RULED ON YET ANOTHER ABORTION CASE, TEMPORARILY ALLOWING EMERGENCY ABORTIONS TO CONTINUE IN IDAHO. DESPITE THE STATE'S RESTRICTIVE BAN. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP, YOU TAKE CREDIT FOR THE DECISION TO OVERTURN ROE V WADE, WHICH RETURNED THE ISSUE OF ABORTION TO THE STATES. HOWEVER, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT STILL PLAYS A ROLE IN WHETHER OR NOT WOMEN HAVE ACCESS TO ABORTION PILLS. THEY ARE USED IN ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF ALL ABORTIONS. AS PRESIDENT, WOULD YOU BLOCK ABORTION MEDICATION? >> FIRST OF ALL, THE SUPREME COURT JUST APPROVED THE ABORTION PILL, AND I AGREE WITH OF THE DECISION TO HAVE DONE THAT AND I WILL NOT BLOCK IT. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS WHOLE QUESTION THAT YOU'RE ASKING, COMPLEX BUT NOT REALLY COMPLEX. FIFTY-ONE YEARS AGO, YOU'VE GOT ROE V WADE AND EVERYBODY WANTED TO GET IT BACK TO THE STATES, EVERYBODY WITHOUT EXCEPTION. DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS, LIBERALS, CONSERVATIVES. EVERYBODY WANTED IT BACK. RELIGIOUS LEADERS. AND WHAT I DID IS PUT THREE GREAT SUPREME COURT JUSTICES ON THE COURT, AND THEY HAVE AND TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF KILLING ROE V WADE AND MOVING IT BACK TO THE STATES. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY WANTED. NOW TEN YEARS AGO OR SO THEY STARTED TALKING ABOUT HOW MANY WEEKS AND HOW MANY THIS AND GETTING INTO OTHER THINGS, BUT EVERY LEGAL SCHOLAR THROUGHOUT THE WORLD, THE MOST RESPECTED WANTED IT BUT BACK TO THE STATES. I DID THAT. NOW THE STATES ARE WORKING IT OUT. IF YOU LOOK AT OHIO, IT WAS A DECISION THAT WAS AN END RESULT THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE LIBERAL THAN YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT. KANSAS I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING. TEXAS IS DIFFERENT, FLORIDA IS DIFFERENT. BUT THEY ARE ALL MAKING THEIR OWN DECISIONS RIGHT NOW. AND RIGHT NOW THE STATES CONTROL IT. THAT'S THE VOTE OF THE PEOPLE. LIKE RONALD REAGAN, I'LL BE LEAVING THE EXCEPTIONS. I'M A PERSON THAT BELIEVES, AND FRANKLY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE LEAVING THE EXCEPTION SOME PEOPLE YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW YOUR HEART, SOME PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE IN THAT BUT I BELIEVE IN THE EXCEPTIONS FOR RAPE, INCEST AND THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. SOME PEOPLE DON'T. FOLLOW YOUR HEART, BUT YOU HAVE TO GET ELECTED ALSO AND BECAUSE THAT HAS TO DO WITH OTHER THINGS, YOU HAVE TO GET ELECTED. THE PROBLEM THEY HAVE IS THEY ARE RADICAL BECAUSE THEY WILL TAKE THE LIFE OF A CHILD IN THE EASEMENT, NINTH MONDAY AND EVEN AFTER BIRTH, AFTER BIRTH IF YOU LOOK AT THE FORMER GOVERNOR OF VIRGINIA, HE WAS WILLING TO DO THIS. HE SAID WE WILL PUT THE BABY ASIDE AND DETERMINE WHAT WE DO WITH THE BABY MEANING WE WILL KILL THE BABY. WHAT HAPPENED IS WE BROUGHT IT BACK TO THE STATES AND THE COUNTRY IS NOW COMING TOGETHER ON THIS ISSUE. IT'S BEEN A GREAT THING. >> THANK YOU. PRESIDENT BIDEN. >> IT'S BEEN A TERRIBLE THING WHAT YOU'VE DONE. THE FACT IS THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE SCHOLARS SUPPORTED ROE WHEN IT WAS DECIDED. AND THAT'S THIS IDEA THAT THEY WERE ALL AGAINST IT IS RIDICULOUS. AND THIS IS THE GUY THAT SAID THAT THE STATES SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE IT. A STATE WHERE INTO SIX WEEKS YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IF YOU'RE PREGNANT OR NOT BUT YOU CANNOT SEE A DOCTOR AND HAVE HIM DECIDE ON WHAT YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES ARE WHEN YOU NEED HELP. THE IDEA THAT STATES ARE ABLE TO DO THIS IS LIKE SAYING WE ARE GOING TO RETURN CIVIL RIGHTS BACK TO THE STATES, LET EACH STATE HAVE A DIFFERENT RULE. THERE'S SO MANY YOUNG WOMEN THAT HAVE BEEN, INCLUDING A YOUNG WOMAN WHO WAS JUST MURDERED AND HE WENT TO THE FUNERAL AND THE IDEA THAT SHE WAS MURDERED BY AN IMMIGRANT COMING IN. THEY TALK ABOUT THAT. BUT HERE'S THE DEAL, THERE'S A LOT OF YOUNG WOMEN RAPED BY THEIR IN-LAWS, BY THEIR SPOUSES, BROTHERS AND SISTERS, JUST IT'S RIDICULOUS AND THEY CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. THEY TRIED TO ARREST THEM WHEN THEY CROSS STATE LINES -- >> THANK YOU. >> THERE'VE BEEN MANY YOUNG WOMEN MURDERED BY THE SAME PEOPLE HE ALLOWS TO COME ACROSS OUR BORDER. WE HAVE A BORDER THAT'S THE MOST DANGEROUS PLACE ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, CONSIDER THE MOST DANGEROUS PLACE ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND HE OPENED IT UP INTO THESE KILLERS ARE COMING INTO OUR COUNTRY AND THEY ARE RAPING AND KILLING WOMEN AND IT'S A TERRIBLE THING. AS FAR AS THE ABORTION IS CONCERNED IT'S NOW BACK WITH THE STATES, THE STATES ARE VOTING AND IN MANY CASES IT'S FRANKLY A VERY LIBERAL DECISION IN MANY CASES IT IS THE OPPOSITE. BUT THEY ARE VOTING, AND IT'S BRINGING IT BACK TO THE VOTE OF THE PEOPLE, WHICH IS WHAT EVERYBODY WANTED INCLUDING THE FOUNDERS, IF THEY KNEW ABOUT THIS ISSUE, WHICH FRANKLY THEY DIDN'T. BUT EVERYBODY WANTED IT BROUGHT BACK. RONALD REAGAN WANTED IT BROUGHT BACK. HE WASN'T ABLE TO GET IT. EVERYBODY WANTED IT BROUGHT BACK, AND MANY PRESIDENTS HAVE TRIED TO GET IT BACK. I WAS THE ONE TO DO IT AND AGAIN, THIS GIVES THE VOTE OF THE PEOPLE, AND THAT IS WHERE THEY WANTED IT. EVERY LEGAL SCHOLAR WANTED IT THAT WAY. >> STAYING ON THE TOPIC OF ABORTION, PRESIDENT BIDEN, SEVEN STATES, I WILL LET YOU DO THAT -- THIS IS THE SAME TOPIC, SEVEN STATES HAD NO LEGAL RESTRICTIONS ON HOW FAR INTO A PREGNANCY A WOMAN CAN OBTAIN AN ABORTION. DO YOU SUPPORT ANY LEGAL LIMITS ON HOW LATE A WOMAN SHOULD BE ABLE TO TERMINATE PREGNANCY? >> I SUPPORT ROE V WADE. THERE'S THREE TRIMESTERS. THE FIRST TIME, BETWEEN A WOMAN AND A DOCTOR, SECOND TIME BETWEEN A DOCTOR AND AN EXTREME SITUATION. THE THIRD TIME BETWEEN THE DOCTOR, I MEAN, BETWEEN THE WOMAN AND THE STATE. THE IDEA THAT THE POLITICIANS, THAT THE FOUNDERS WANT THE POLITICIANS TO BE THE ONES MAKING A DECISION ABOUT A WOMAN'S HEALTH IS RIDICULOUS. NO POLITICIAN IS MAKING THAT DECISION. A DR. SHOULD BE MAKING THAT DECISION. THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IT IF I'M ELECTED I'M GOING TO RESTORE ROE V WADE. >> SO THAT MEANS HE CAN TAKE THE LIFE OF THE BABY IN THE NINTH MONTH AND EVEN AFTER BIRTH BECAUSE SOME STATES, DEMOCRAT RUN, TAKE IT AFTER BIRTH. AGAIN, THE FORMER GOVERNOR OF VIRGINIA PUT THE BABY DOWN, THEN WE WILL DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH IT. SO, HE IS WILLING TO, AS WE SAY, RIPPED THE BABY OUT OF THE WOMB AND THE NINTH MONTH AND KILL THE BABY? NOBODY WANTS THAT TO HAPPEN. DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN, NOBODY WANTS IT TO HAPPEN. >> THAT IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE. ROE V WADE DOES NOT PROVIDE FOR THAT. THAT'S NOT THE CIRCUMSTANCES. IF THE WOMAN'S LIFE IS IN DANGER AND SHE'S GOING TO DIE THAT'S THE ONLY CIRCUMSTANCE. BUT WE ARE NOT FOR LATE-TERM ABORTION, PERIOD, PERIOD. >> UNDER ROE V WADE YOU HAVE A LATE TERM ABORTION. YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT DEPENDING ON THE STATE, YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. WE DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING. WE THINK IT'S A RADICAL THING. WE THINK THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE RADICALS, NOT THE REPUBLICANS. >> FOR 51 YEARS THAT WAS THE LAW. SCHOLARS SAID IT WAS THE LAW. FIFTY-ONE YEARS AND WAS TAKEN AWAY BECAUSE THIS GUY PUT A VERY CONSERVATIVE MEMBER ON THE SUPREME COURT. HE TAKES CREDIT FOR TAKING IT AWAY. WHAT'S HE GOING TO DO, IN FACT IF THE REPUBLICANS HE GETS ELECTED AND CONTROL THE CONGRESS AND THEY PASS ON THE UNIVERSAL BAN ON ABORTION, PERIOD, ACROSS THE BOARD AT SIX WEEKS OR SEVEN, EIGHT, TEN, SOMETHING VERY, VERY CONSERVATIVE? IS HE GOING TO SIGN THE BILL? I WILL VETO IT, HE WILL SIGN IT. >> THANK YOU. >> LET'S TURN TO IMMIGRATION AND BORDER SECURITY. A RECORD NUMBER OF MIGRANTS HAVE ILLEGALLY CROSSED THE SOUTHERN BORDER ON YOUR WATCH. OVERWHELMING BORDER STATES AND OVERBURDENING CITIES SUCH AS NEW YORK INTO CHICAGO AND IN SOME CASES CAUSING SAFETY AND SECURITY CONCERNS. GIVEN THAT, WHY SHOULD VOTERS TRUST YOU TO SOLVE THIS CRISIS? >> BECAUSE WE WORK VERY HARD TO GET A BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT THAT NOT ONLY CHANGES ALL OF THAT, IT MADE SURE THAT THERE'S NO THERE IS NOCIRCUMSTANCE WHERE TE ACROSS THE BORDER WHERE THE BORDER POLICE ARE NOW. WE INCREASED THE NUMBER OF ASYLUM OFFICES. THE BORDER PATROL ENDORSED ME, AND ENDORSED MY POSITION. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE FIND OURSELVES IN A SITUATION WHERE WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT, HE WAS SEPARATING BABIES FROM THEIR MOTHERS PUTTING THEM IN CAGES, MAKING SURE THE FAMILIES WERE SEPARATED. THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO GO. WHAT I'VE DONE SINCE I CHANGED THE LAW, I HAVE CHANGED IT IN A WAY THAT NOW YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE 40% FEWER PEOPLE COMING OUT ACROSS THE BORDER, IT'S BETTER THAN WHEN HE LEFT OFFICE AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE UNTIL WE GET THE TOTAL BAN, THE TOTAL INITIATIVE RELATIVE TO WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH MORE BORDER PATROL AND MORE ASYLUM OFFICERS. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE SAID AT THE END OF THE SENTENCE. I DON'T THINK HE KNOWS WHAT HE SAID EITHER. LOOK, WE HAD THE SAFEST BORDER IN THE HISTORY OF THE COUNTRY. ALL HE HAD TO DO IS LEAVE IT. HE DECIDED TO OPEN UP OUR BORDER, OPEN OUR COUNTRY TO PEOPLE THAT ARE FROM PRISONS, PEOPLE THAT ARE FROM MENTAL INSTITUTIONS, INSANE ASYLUMS, TERRORISTS. WE HAVE THE LARGEST NUMBER OF TERRORISTS COMING INTO THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW, TERRORISTS ALL OVER THE WORLD NOT JUST SOUTH AMERICA, ALL OVER THE WORLD, FROM THE MIDDLE EAST, EVERYWHERE. ALL OVER THE WORLD THEY ARE PULLING IN. AND THIS GUY JUST LEFT IT OPEN AND HE DIDN'T NEED LEGISLATION. I DIDN'T HAVE LEGISLATION. I SAID CLOSE THE BORDER. WE HAD THE SAFEST BORDER IN THE HISTORY AND THAT FINAL COUPLE OF MONTHS OF MY PRESIDENCY, WE HAD ACCORDING TO BORDER PATROL -- AND BY THE WAY, WHO ENDORSED ME FOR PRESIDENT BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT -- THEY ENDORSED ME FOR PRESIDENT, JUST TO SPEAK TO THEM. BUT LOOK, WE HAD AT THE SAFEST BORDER IN HISTORY. NOW WE HAVE THE WORST BORDER IN HISTORY. THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT AND PEOPLE ARE DYING ALL OVER THE PLACE INCLUDING THE PEOPLE COMING UP -- >> PRESIDENT BIDEN? >> THE ONLY TERRORIST THAT HAS DONE ANYTHING ACROSS THE BORDER IS THE ONE THAT CAME ALONG AND KILLED -- AND HIS ADMINISTRATION KILLED THREE AMERICAN SOLDIERS, KILLED THREE AMERICAN SOLDIERS. THAT'S THE ONLY TERRORIST. I'M NOT SAYING NO TERRORIST EVER GOT THROUGH, BUT THE IDEA THEY ARE WELCOMING THESE PEOPLE IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE. THERE IS NO DATA TO SUPPORT WHAT HE SAID. ONCE AGAIN, HE'S EXAGGERATING AND LYING. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP, STAYING ON THE TOPIC OF IMMIGRATION, YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO CARRY OUT, QUOTE, THE LARGEST DOMESTIC DEPORTATION OPERATION IN AMERICAN HISTORY, UNQUOTE. DOES THAT MEAN YOU WILL DEPORT ANY UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT IN AMERICA INCLUDING THOSE THAT HAVE JOBS, INCLUDING THOSE WHOSE SPOUSES OR CITIZENS, AND INCLUDING THOSE WHO'VE LIVED HERE FOR DECADES? AND IF SO, HOW WILL YOU DO IT? >> JUST ONE SECOND, HE SAID WE KILLED THREE PEOPLE. THE PEOPLE WE KILLED OUR ALIBI E GREATEST TERRORISTS IN THE WORLD THAT HAD A HUGE IMPACT ON EVERYTHING NOT JUST A BORDER, ON ANYTHING. HE IS THE ONE THAT KILLED PEOPLE AT THE BORDER INCLUDING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DYING AND ALSO KILLING OUR CITIZENS WHEN THEY COME IN. WE ARE LIVING RIGHT NOW IN A RATS NEST THEY ARE KILLING OUR PEOPLE IN NEW YORK, CALIFORNIA, AND IN EVERY STATE IN THE UNION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE BORDERS ANYMORE. EVERY STATE IS NOW A BORDER AND BECAUSE IT IS RIDICULOUS, INSANE AND VERY STUPID POLICIES, PEOPLE ARE COMING AND KILLING OUR CITIZENS AT A LEVEL THAT WE'VE NEVER SEEN. WE CALL IT MIGRANT CRIMEA. I CALL IT BIDEN MIGRANT CRIME. KILLING OUR CITIZENS AT A LEVEL WE'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE AND IT'S LIKE THESE THREE INCREDIBLE GIRLS OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS, ONE OF THEM I JUST SPOKE TO THE MOTHER AND JUST HAD THE FUNERAL FOR THIS GIRL, 12-YEARS-OLD. THIS IS HORRIBLE WHAT'S TAKING PLACE. WHAT'S TAKING PLACE IN OUR COUNTRY, WE ARE LITERALLY AN UNCIVILIZED COUNTRY NOW. HE DOESN'T WANT IT TO BE. HE JUST DOESN'T KNOW. HE OPENED THE BORDERS, NOBODY'S EVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE AND WE HAVE TO GET A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE OUT AND FAST BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO DESTROY OUR COUNTRY. TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE THEY ARE LIVING. WE ARE LIVING IN LUXURY HOTELS IN NEW YORK CITY AND OTHER PLACES. OUR VETERANS ARE ON THE STREET TO DYING BECAUSE HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT OUR VETERANS. HE DOESN'T LIKE THE MILITARY AT ALL AND HE'S A DOESN'T CARE ABOUT OUR VETERANS. I HAD THE HIGHEST APPROVAL RATING FOR VETERANS TAKING CARE OF THE VA. HE HAS THE WORST. HE'S GOTTEN RID OF ALL THE THINGS I'VE APPROVED. OF ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT I'VE APPROVED, THEY ABANDON. WE HAD BY FAR THE HIGHEST AND NOW IT'S DOWN TO LESS THAN HALF BECAUSE HE'S DONE ALL THESE GREAT THINGS THAT WE DID AND I THINK HE DID IT JUST BECAUSE I APPROVED IT, WHICH IS CRAZY BUT HE HAS KILLED SO MANY PEOPLE AT OUR BORDER BY ALLOWING ALL THESE PEOPLE TO COME IN. IT'S A VERY SAD TODAY IN AMERICA. >> PRESIDENT BIDEN, YOU HAVE THE MICROPHONE. >> EVERY SINGLE THING HE SAID IS ALIVE. FOR EXAMPLE, VETERANS ARE A HELL OF A LOT BETTER SINCE I PASSED TO THE ACT. 1 MILLION OF THEM NOW HAVE INSURANCE AND THEIR FAMILIES HAVE IT, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THERE WAS AGENT OR RANGE OR THEY WERE BURNED BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL BEING COVERED NOW, AND HE OPPOSES. WE ARE ALSO IN A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR VETERANS. MY SON SPENT A YEAR IN IRAQ AND CAME BACK WITH STAGE FOUR BLESSED OMA. I WAS RECENTLY IN FRANCE. I WENT TO THE WORLD WAR II CEMETERY, WORLD WAR I CEMETERY. HE WAS STANDING WITH A FOUR-STAR GENERAL AND TOLD ME I DON'T WANT TO GO IN THERE THERE'S A BUNCH OF LOSERS INTO SOCCER'S. MY SON WASN'T A LOSER. >> THAT IS A MADE-UP. FAILING LIKE MANY OF THE MAGAZINES, HE MAILED IT UP, PUT IT IN COMMERCIALS. WE HAD PEOPLE THAT SAID I DIDN'T SAY THAT. WHO WHAT TO SAY I'M AT A CEMETERY WERE TALKING ABOUT OUR VETERANS, BECAUSE NOBODY'S TAKEN BETTER CARE OF. I'M SO GLAD THIS CAME UP AND HE BROUGHT IT UP. IF THERE'S NOBODY THAT HAS TAKEN BETTER CARE OF OUR SOLDIERS THAN I HAD. TO THINK THAT I WOULD IN FRONT OF GENERALS AND OTHERS SAY THAT THEY ARE SUCKERS AND LOSERS AND THERE'S PEOPLE THAT SAID IT WAS NEVER SAID BY ME. IT WAS MADE UP JUST LIKE RUSSIA WAS MADE UP AND THE 51 INTELLIGENCE AGENTS ARE MADE UP, JUST LIKE THE NEW THING WITH THE 16 ECONOMISTS TALKING, THE SAME THING. FIFTY-ONE INTELLIGENCE AGENTS SAID THAT THE LAPTOP WAS RUSSIA DISINFORMATION. IT WAS INDICATED THAT CAME FROM HIS SON, HUNTER. IT WASN'T RUSSIA DISINFORMATION. HE MADE UP THIS SUCKERS AND LOSERS, SO HE SHOULD APOLOGIZE TO ME RIGHT NOW. >> A FOUR-STAR GENERAL WAS ON YOUR STAFF AND SAID YOU SAID IT, PERIOD. THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, THE IDEA, THE IDEA THAT I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO YOU FOR ANYTHING ALONG THE LINE, WE'VE DONE MORE FOR VETERANS THAN ANY PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY. THE ONLY OBLIGATION WE HAVE AS A COUNTRY IS TO CARE FOR OUR VETERANS WHEN THEY COME HOME AND THEIR FAMILIES AND EQUIP THEM WHEN THEY GO TO WAR. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING AND WITH THE VA IS DOING NOW. THEY ARE DOING MORE FOR VETERANS THAN EVER BEFORE IN HISTORY. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> ON THE TOPIC OF FOREIGN POLICY I WANT TO BEGIN WITH RUSSIA'S WAR AGAINST UKRAINE, WHICH IS NOW IN ITS THIRD YEAR. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP, RUSSIAN PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN SAYS HE WILL ONLY END THIS WAR IF RUSSIA KEEPS THE UKRAINIAN TERRITORY IT HAS ALREADY CLAIMED AND UKRAINE ABANDONS ITS BID TO JOIN NATO. ARE PUTIN'S TERMS ACCEPTABLE TO YOU? >> FIRST OF ALL, OUR VETERANS AND THEIR SOLDIERS CAN'T STAND THIS GUY. THEY CAN'T STAND HIM. THEY THINK HE'S THE WORST COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL HIM, THAT WE'VE EVER HAD. THEY CAN'T STAND HIM SO LET'S GET THAT STRAIGHT. AND THEY LIKE ME MORE THAN JUST ABOUT ANY. THAT'S BASED ON EVERY SINGLE BIT OF INFORMATION. AS FAR AS RUSSIA AND UKRAINE, IF WE HAD A REAL PRESIDENT, A PRESIDENT THAT WAS RESPECTED BY PUTIN, HE WOULD HAVE NEVER, HE WOULD HAVE NEVER INVADED UKRAINE. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DEAD RIGHT NOW, MUCH MORE THAN PEOPLE KNOW. THEY TALK ABOUT NUMBERS. YOU CAN DOUBLE THE NUMBERS, MAY BE TROUBLE THE NUMBERS. HE DID NOTHING TO STOP IT. IN FACT I THINK HE ENCOURAGED RUSSIA FROM GOING IN. HE WAS SO BAD WITH AFGHANISTAN, IT WAS SUCH A HORRIBLE EMBARRASSMENT, THE MOST EMBARRASSING MOMENT IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY THAT WHEN PUTIN WATCHED THAT AND HE'S ALL THE INCOMPETENCE THAT HE SHOULD, YOU SHOULD HAVE FIRED THE GENERALS LIKE I FIRED THE ONE YOU MENTIONED. SO HE'S GOT NO LOVE LOST BUT HE SHOULD HAVE FIRED THOSE GENERALS. NO GENERAL GOT FIRED FOR THE MOST EMBARRASSING MOMENT IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY, AFGHANISTAN, WHERE WE LEFT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF EQUIPMENT BEHIND. WE LOST 13 BEAUTIFUL SOLDIERS, AND 38 SOLDIERS WERE OBLITERATED INTO BY THE WAY WE LEFT PEOPLE BEHIND, AND AMERICAN CITIZENS. WHEN PUTIN SAW THAT HE SAID YOU KNOW WHAT, I THINK WE ARE GOING TO GO IN AND MAYBE -- I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT IT, THE DIFFERENCES HE NEVER WOULD HAVE INVADED UKRAINE, NEVER JUST LIKE ISRAEL WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN INVADED IN A MILLION YEARS BY HAMAS. YOU KNOW WHY, BECAUSE IRAN WAS BROKEN. I WOULDN'T LET ANYBODY DO BUSINESS. THEY RAN OUT OF MONEY. THEY WERE BROKE, THEY LEFT HIM NO MONEY FOR HAMAS OR ANYTHING. THAT'S WHY YOU HAD NO TERROR AT ALL DURING MY ADMINISTRATION. THIS PLACE THE WHOLE WORLD IS BLOWING UP UNDER HIM. >> PRESIDENT BIDEN? >> I'VE NEVER HEARD SO MUCH MALARKEY IN MY WHOLE LIFE. THE FACT IS WE ARE IN A SITUATION LET'S TAKE THE LAST FIRST, IRAN ATTACKED AMERICAN TROOPS, CAUSED BRAIN DAMAGE FOR A NUMBER OF THE TROOPS AND HE DID NOTHING ABOUT IT. HE SAID THEY ARE JUST HEADACHES THAT'S ALL IT IS. HE DIDN'T DO A THING. NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, WE'VE GOT OVER 100,000 AMERICANS OUT OF AFGHANISTAN DURING THAT LIFT. NUMBER THREE, FINDING OURSELVES IN THE SITUATION WHERE TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT TRUMP DID IN UKRAINE. HE TOLD TRUMP DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT TRUMP DID, DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAID WHEN HE WENT IN. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE KIEV IN FIVE DAYS BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE OLD SOVIET UNION. THAT'S WHAT HE WANTED TO REESTABLISH. AND HE IN FACT DIDN'T DO IT AT ALL AND THEY LOST THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF TROOPS. >> THANK YOU. FOR ONE MINUTE I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION WHICH IS OUR PUTIN'S TERMS ACCEPTABLE TO YOU? >> KNOW THEY ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE, BUT LOOK THIS IS A WAR THAT NEVER SHOULD HAVE STARTED IF WE HAD A LEADER IN THIS WORLD HE LEAD EVERYBODY ALONG AND HE'S GIVEN $200 MILLION NOW OR MORE TO UKRAINE. $200 BILLION, THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING LIKE IT. ANYTIME THAT ZELENSKYY COMES INTO THE COUNTRY AND WALKS AWAY WITH BILLIONS IS THE GREATEST SALESMAN EVER AND I'M NOT KNOCKING HIM OR ANYTHING. THE MONEY THAT WE ARE SPENDING ON THIS WAR, AND WE SHOULDN'T BE SPENDING, IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED. I WILL HAVE THAT WAR SETTLED BETWEEN PUTIN AND ZELENSKYY AS PRESIDENT ELECT BEFORE I TAKE OFFICE ON JANUARY 20TH. I WILL HAVE IT SETTLED. PEOPLE BEING KILLED SO NEEDLESSLY, SO STUPIDLY, AND I WILL GET IT SETTLED AND FAST BEFORE I TAKE OFFICE. >> YOU HAVE A MINUTE. >> THE FACT IS PUTIN IS A WAR CRIMINAL. HE'S KILLED THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, AND HE'S MADE ONE THING CLEAR HE WANTS TO REESTABLISH WHAT WAS A PART OF THE SOVIET EMPIRE. THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS AND YOU THINK HE WILL STOP THERE, DO YOU THINK HE WILL STOP IF HE TAKES UKRAINE? WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENS TO THOSE NATO COUNTRIES AND SO IF YOU WANT A WAR YOU WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO BECAUSE IF IN FACT HE DOES WHAT HE SAYS AND WALKS AWAY, BY THE WAY, ALL THAT MONEY WE GIVE THE WEAPONS AND NOT THE MONEY AT THIS POINT AND OUR NATO ALLIES PRODUCE AS MUCH FUNDING FOR UKRAINE AS WE HAVE. THAT'S WHY WE ARE STRONG. >> THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO THE MIDDLE EAST. IN OCTOBER, HAMAS ATTACKED ISRAEL KILLING MORE THAN A THOUSAND PEOPLE AND TAKING HUNDREDS OF HOSTAGES. AMONG THOSE ARE FIVE AMERICANS. ISRAEL'S RESPONSE HAS KILLED THOUSANDS OF PALESTINIANS AND CREATED A HUMANITARIAN CRISIS IN GAZA. PRESIDENT BIDEN, YOU PUT FORWARD A PROPOSAL TO RESOLVE THIS CONFLICT, BUT SO FAR HAMAS HAS NOT RELEASED THE REMAINING HOSTAGES AND ISRAEL IS CONTINUING ITS MILITARY EFFECT. SO, WHAT ADDITIONAL LEVERAGE WILL YOU USE TO GET HAMAS AND ISRAEL TO END THE WAR? YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. >> NUMBER ONE, EVERYBODY FROM THE UNITED NATIONS SECURITY COUNCIL STRAIGHT THROUGH TO THE G7 HAVE ENDORSED THE PLAN I PUT FORTH. WHICH IS THREE STAGES. THE FIRST IS THE HOSTAGES FOR THE CEASE-FIRE. THE SECOND CEASE-FIRE WITH ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS. THE THIRD PHASE IS NO THE END OF THE WAR. NO ONE WANTS THE WAR TO CONTINUE WITH HAMAS. THEY ARE THE ONLY ONE STANDING OUT. WE ARE STILL PUSHING HARD TO GET THEM TO ACCEPT AND IN THE MEANTIME, WHAT'S HAPPENED IN ISRAEL THE ONLY THING DENIED WAS 2,000-POUND BOMBS. THEY DON'T WORK VERY WELL IN POPULATED AREAS. THEY KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE. WE PROVIDE ALL THE WEAPONS THEY NEED AND WHEN THEY NEED THEM AND BY THE WAY, I'M THE GUY THAT ORGANIZED THE WORLD AGAINST IRAN WITH A FULL-BLOWN BALLISTIC MISSILE ATTACK ON ISRAEL. NO ONE WAS HURT, WE SAVED ISRAEL AND ARE THE BIGGEST SUPPORTER SO THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. HAMAS CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE. WE SEND OUR EXPERIENCE LIKE WE GOT BIN LADEN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT -- BY THE WAY THEY'VE GREATLY WEAKENED HAMAS. THEY SHOULD BE ELIMINATED. YOU'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL FOR USING CERTAIN WEAPONS AMONG THE POPULATION CENTERS. BACK TO UKRAINE FOR ONE SECOND. WE HAVE AN OCEAN SEPARATING US. THE EUROPEAN NATIONS TOGETHER HAVE SPENT 100 BILLION OR MAYBE MORE THAN THAT, LESS THAN US. WHY DOESN'T HE CALL THEM AND AS A YOU'VE GOT TO PUT UP YOUR MONEY LIKE I DID WITH NATO. I PUT UP HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THE SECRETARY-GENERAL OF NATO SAID THE TRUMP DID THE MOST INCREDIBLE JOB I'VE EVER SEEN. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY, THEY WERE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SPENDING ALMOST 100% OF THE MONEY THAT WAS PAID BY US. HE DIDN'T DO THAT. HE'S GETTING ALL, YOU'VE GOT TO ASK THESE PEOPLE TO PUT UP THE MONEY. OVER $100 BILLION THAT HAS A BIGGER IMPACT ON THEM BECAUSE OF LOCATION BECAUSE WE HAVING AN OCEAN IN BETWEEN. AS FAR AS ISRAEL AND HAMAS, ISRAEL IS THE ONE THAT WANTS TO GO. THE ONLY ONE THAT WANTS TO KEEP GOING IS HAMAS. ACTUALLY ISRAEL IS THE ONE AND YOU SHOULD LET THEM GO AND FINISH THE JOB, HE DOESN'T WANT TO DO IT, HE'S BECOME LIKE A PALESTINIAN BUT THEY DON'T LIKE HIM BECAUSE HE IS A BAD PALESTINIAN, HE IS A WEAK ONE. >> PRESIDENT BIDEN, YOU HAVE A MINUTE. >> I'VE NEVER HEARD SO MUCH FOOLISHNESS. HE'S GOING TO PULL OUT OF NATO? THE IDEA WE HAVE OUR STRENGTH THAT LIES IN OUR ALLIANCES AS WELL AND IF WE ARE ABLE TO AVOID A MAJOR WAR WHAT HAPPENS IF IN FACT YOU HAVE PUTIN CONTINUE TO GO INTO NATO, WE HAVE AN ARTICLE FIVE AGREEMENT ATTACK ON ONE IS AN ATTACK ON ALL. HE KEEPS TALKING ABOUT GO AHEAD, LET PUTIN CONTROL UKRAINE AND THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO OTHER PLACES. WHAT HAPPENS THEN? HE HAS NO IDEA WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. AND THAT IS 50 OTHER NATIONS AROUND THE WORLD TO SUPPORT UKRAINE INCLUDING JAPAN AND SOUTH KOREA BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THIS HAS A SERIOUS THREAT TO THE WHOLE WORLD PEACE. NO MAJOR WAR IN EUROPE HAS BEEN ABLE TO BE CONTAINED JUST TO EUROPE. >> JUST TO FOLLOW UP, WOULD YOU SUPPORT THE CREATION OF INDEPENDENT PALESTINIAN STATES IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE PEACE IN THE REGION? >> I WOULD HAVE TO SEE BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS IF WE SPEND ALL THE MONEY, SO I'VE MADE GREAT TRADE DEALS WITH THE EUROPEAN NATIONALS BECAUSE IF YOU ADD THEM UP, THEY ARE ABOUT THE SAME SIZE ECONOMICALLY, THE ECONOMIES ARE ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS THE UNITED STATES AND THEY DON'T WANT ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE BUT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO TAKE THEIR CARS, THEIR FOOD, THEIR EVERYTHING OF THEIR AGRICULTURE. I CHANGED THAT. BUT THE BIG THING I WOULD CHANGE, THE ONLY REASON HE CAN PLAY GAMES WITH NATO IS BECAUSE I GOT THEM TO PUT UP HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. AND HE'S RIGHT ABOUT THIS. I SAID NO I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT NATO IF YOU DON'T PAY. THEY ASKED ME THE QUESTION WHAT YOU GUARD US AGAINST RUSSIA IN A SECRET MEETING OF THE 28 STATES AND AT THAT TIME, NATIONS AT THAT TIME AND THEY SAID NO IF YOU DON'T PAY, I WON'T DO THAT AND YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, BILLIONS OF DOLLARS CAME FLOWING IN THE NEXT DAY AND THE NEXT MONTH BUT NOW WE ARE IN THE SAME POSITION PAYING EVERYBODY'S BILLS. >> LET'S TURN TO THE ISSUE OF DEMOCRACY. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP, I WANT TO ASK ABOUT JANUARY 6, 2021 AFTER YOU RALLIED SUPPORTERS. SOME OF THEM STORMED THE CAPITAL TO STOP THE CONSTITUTIONALLY MANDATED COUNTING OF ELECTORAL VOTES. AS PRESIDENT, YOU SWORE AN OATH TO PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO VOTERS WHO BELIEVE THAT YOU VIOLATED THAT OATH THROUGH YOUR ACTIONS AND INACTION AND WORRY THAT YOU'LL DO IT AGAIN? >> LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT JANUAR. ON JANUARY 6TH, WE HAD A GREAT BORDER, NOBODY COMING THROUGH, VERY FEW. JANUARY 6 WE WERE ENERGY INDEPENDENT. WE HAD AT THE LOWEST TAXES EVER, THE LOWEST REGULATIONS EVER. JANUARY 6TH WE WERE RESPECTED ALL OVER THE WORLD, ALL OVER THE WORLD WE WERE RESPECTED AND THEN HE COMES IN AND WE ARE LAUGHED AT LIKE A BUNCH OF STUPID PEOPLE. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE UNITED STATES REPUTATION UNDER THIS MEANS LEADERSHIP IS HORRIBLE INCLUDING WEAPONIZATION, WHICH I'M SURE AT SOME POINT YOU WILL BE TALKING ABOUT WHEN HE GOES AFTER THE POLITICAL OPPONENT BECAUSE HE CAN'T BEAT THEM FAIR AND SQUARE. >> YOU HAVE 80 SECONDS LEFT. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE VOTERS WHO BELIEVE THAT YOU VIOLATED THE CONSTITUTIONAL OATH THROUGH ACTIONS AND INACTION JANUARY 6, 2021 AND WORRY THAT YOU'LL DO IT AGAIN? >> I DIDN'T SAY THAT TO ANYBODY. I SIT PEACEFULLY AND PATRIOTIC. NANCY PELOSI IF YOU WATCH THE NEWS FROM TWO DAYS AGO ON TAPE TO HER DAUGHTER THAT IS A DOCUMENTARY FILMMAKER, NO IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY. I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS. I OFFERED 10,000 SOLDIERS ON NATIONAL GUARD AND SHE TURNED THEM DOWN IN A MATTER OF, IN WRITING BY THE WAY, IN WRITING TURNED IT DOWN, THE MAYOR OF DC. THEY TURNED IT DOWN. I COULD SEE I HAD VIRTUALLY NOTHING TO DO, THEY ASKED ME TO GO MAKE A SPEECH AND I GO TO SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING. EVERYBODY WAS SAYING THEY WERE GOING TO BE THERE ON JANUARY 6 AND I SAID THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING. YOU COULD FEEL IT AND THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A NATIONAL GUARD OR WHATEVER AND OFFERED IT TO HER AND SHE NOW ADMITS SHE TURNED IT DOWN AND IT WAS THE SAME DAY SHE WAS, I DON'T KNOW, HE CAN'T BE VERY HAPPY WITH HER DAUGHTER BECAUSE IT MADE HIM INTO A LIAR. I TAKE FULL RESPONSE ABILITY FOR JANUARY 6TH. >> PRESIDENT BIDEN? >> LOOK, HE ENCOURAGES FOLKS, NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO I SAT THERE, HE SAT THERE WATCHING FOR HOURS BEING BEGGED BY HIS VICE PRESIDENT IN A NUMBER OF COLLEAGUES TO DO SOMETHING TO CALL FOR IT TO STOP. INSTEAD THEY TALKED ABOUT BEING PATRIOTS AND PATRONS OF AMERICA. IN FACT HE SAYS HE WILL NOW FORGIVE THEM FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE. HE WENT TO EVERY SINGLE COURT IN THE NATION, SCORES AND THEY SAID THIS GUY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT WAS DONE AND DIDN'T DO A THING AND THESE PEOPLE SHOULD BE IN JAIL AND THEY SHOULD BE THE ONES HELD ACCOUNTABLE. NOW WE HAVE A BLOOD BATH? >> THANK YOU PRESIDENT BIDEN. PRESIDENT TRUMP? >> WHAT THEY'VE DONE TO SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE SO INNOCENT, YOU OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND HOW YOU'VE DESTROYED THE LIVES OF SO MANY PEOPLE WHEN THEY RIPPED OUT MANY OF THE CITIES, YOU GO TO MINNEAPOLIS, WHAT THEY'VE DONE WITH THE FIRES ALL OVER THE CITY IF I DIDN'T BRING IN THE NATIONAL GUARD IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DESTROYED. WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL OF IT THEY TOOK OVER BIG CHUNKS OF SEATTLE. I WAS ALL SET TO BRING IN THE NATIONAL GUARD. THEY SAW THAT COMING AND THEY LEFT IMMEDIATELY. WHAT HE SAID ABOUT THIS WHOLE SUBJECT IS SO OFF, ONE OTHER THING THE UN- SELECT COMMITTEE THAT IS BASICALLY TO HORRIBLE REPUBLICANS THAT ARE ALL DONE NOW OUT OF OFFICE AND DEMOCRATS, THEY DESTROYED AND DELETED ALL OF THE INFORMATION BECAUSE THEY FOUND OUT WE WERE RIGHT. WE WERE RIGHT AND THEY DELETED AND DESTROYED ALL OF THE INFORMATION. THEY SHOULD GO TO JAIL FOR THAT. IF A REPUBLICAN DID THAT IS ABLE TO GO TO JAIL. >> I WANT TO GIVE YOU A MINUTE. >> THE ONLY PERSON IN THIS STATE THAT IS A FELON IS THE MAN I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WHAT HE'S TELLING YOU IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE. THE FACT IS THERE WAS NO EFFORT ON HIS PART TO STOP WHAT'S GOING ON ON CAPITOL HILL. ALL THOSE PEOPLE, EVERY ONE OF THOSE IS TO SERVE TO BE CONVICTED. THE IDEA THEY DIDN'T KILL SOMEBODY JUST WENT IN AND BROKE DOWN DOORS AND BROKE THEIR WINDOWS, OCCUPIED OFFICES, TURNED OVER DESKS, TURNED THEM OVER STATUTES, THE IDEA THAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE PATRIOTS, COME ON. AT THE FIRST DEBATES THAT WE HAD THE FIRST TIME AROUND I SAID I WILL TELL THEM TO STAND BY. WHAT WE DENOUNCED THE PEOPLE THAT WE TALK ABOUT NOW, THE PEOPLE THAT ATTACK, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? >> I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A MINUTE FOR THE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION I HAVE. TER A JURY CONVICTED YOU HAVE 34 FELONIES LAST MONTH YOU SAID IF REELECTED YOU WOULD HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO GO AFTER YOUR POLITICAL OPPONENTS. YOU TALKED ABOUT MEMBERS OF THE SELECT COMMITTEE JANUARY 6TH GOING TO JAIL. YOUR MAIN POLITICAL OPPONENT IS ON STAGE WITH YOU TONIGHT. CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT IT MEANS FEELING YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO GO AFTER POLITICAL OPPONENTS? >> I SAID MY RETRIBUTION IS GOING TO BE SUCCESS WE WILL MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL AGAIN BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S A FAILING NATION. IT'S GOING TO BE SUCCESS BUT WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT A CONVICTED FELON, HIS SON IS A CONVICTED FELON AND A HIGH LEVEL, HIS SON IS GOING TO BE CONVICTED PROBABLY NUMEROUS OTHER TIMES AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONVICTED BEFORE BUT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT LET THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS LAMPS ON THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS. BUT HE COULD BE A CONVICTED FELON AS SOON A C GETS OUT OF OFFICE WITH ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HE IS DONE. HE'S DONE HORRIBLE THINGS. ALL OF THE DEATH CAUSED AT THE BORDER, TELLING THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE WE ARE GOING TO WANT A BILLION DOLLARS OTHERWISE YOU ARE NOT GETTING A BILLION DOLLARS, IF I EVER SAID THAT, THAT IS QUID PRO QUO. WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING. WE ARE NOT GNG TO GIVE YOU A BILLION DOLLARS UNLESS YOU CHANGE YOUR PROSECUTOR. THIS MAN IS A CRIMINAL. YOU'RE LUCKY. I DID NOTHING WRONG. WE WOULD HAVE A SYSTEM THAT WAS RIGGED AND DISGUSTING. WE DID NOTHING WRONG. >> YOU'VE SAID, I'M COMING RIGHT TO YOU, SIR -- YOU WANT TO RESPOND I WILL GIVE YOU A MINUTE TO RESPOND. >> OF THE IDEA THAT I DID ANYTHING WRONG RELATIVE TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS OUTRAGEOUS, SIMPLY A LIE. NUMBER TWO, THE IDEA THAT YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO SEEK RETRIBUTION AGAINST ANY AMERICAN JUST BECAUSE YOUR PRESIDENT IS SIMPLY WRONG. NO PRESIDENT HAS SPOKEN LIKE THAT BEFORE. NUMBER THREE, THE CRIMES YOU ARE CHARGED WITH AND THINK HOW MANY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR MOLESTING A WOMAN IN PUBLIC AND DOING A WHOLE RANGE OF THINGS, HAVING SEX WITH A PORN STAR WHILE YOUR WIFE WAS PREGNANT, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? >> I DIDN'T HAVE SEX WITH A PORN STAR, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, THAT WAS A CASE THAT WAS STARTED AND RULED, THEY MOVED A HIGH-RANKING OFFICIAL, DOJ INTO THE MANHATTAN OFFICE TO START THAT CASE. THAT CASE IS GOING TO BE APPEALED. WE HAD A VERY TERRIBLE JUDGE, HORRIBLE JUDGE, DEMOCRAT, THE PROSECUTOR, ALL HIGH-RANKING DEMOCRATS APPOINTING PEOPLE AT BOTH THE CIVIL AND CRIMINAL. HE BASICALLY WENT AFTER THIS POLITICAL OPPONENT BUT WHEN THE PUBLIC FOUND OUT ABOUT THE CASES BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND BETTER THAN HE DOES, HE HAS NO IDEA WHAT THE CASES ARE BUT WHEN HE FOUND OUT ABOUT THE CASES, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DID, THE NUMBERS WENT WAY UP AND WE TOOK MORE MONEY IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS THAN WE HAVE EVER TAKEN AND IN THE HISTORY OF ANY CAMPAIGN I DON'T THINK ANY CAMPAIGN HAS EVER TAKEN. HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BECAUSE THE PUBLIC KNOWS IT'S A SCAM AND IT'S A GUY AFTER HIS OWN POLITICAL OPPONENT BECAUSE HE CAN'T WIN FAIR AND SQUARE. >> YOU HAVE SAID DONALD TRUMP AND HIS MAGA REPUBLICANS ARE DESTROYING AMERICAN DEMOCRACY. DO YOU BELIEVE THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF WHO ARE LIKELY TO VOTE FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL BE VOTING AGAINST AMERICAN DEMOCRACY? >> THE MORE THEY KNOW ABOUT WHAT HE'S DONE, YES. AND THERE'S MORE COMING. HE HAS A LOT MORE CASES. HE'S GOT A WHOLE RANGE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE JURIES WILL DO BUT I DO KNOW HE HAS A REAL PROBLEM AND SO THE FACT DID YOU EVER HEAR ANY PRESIDENT TO SAY I'M GOING TO SEEK RETRIBUTION OR SAY I GOT HIT BY SOME GOOD IDEAS, WHAT GOT ME INVOLVED TO RUN I SAID I WASN'T GOING TO RUN AGAIN UNTIL I SAW WHAT HAPPENED IN CHARLOTTESVILLE VIRGINIA PEOPLE COMING OUT CARRYING SWASTIKAS ON TORCHES AND SINGING THE SAME ANTI-SEMITIC SONG THEY SANG BACK IN GERMANY AND A YOUNG WOMAN GOT KILLED. I SPOKE TO THE MOTHER. THEY SAID WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS AND THEY SAID I THINK THERE'S FINE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES. WHAT AMERICAN PRESIDENT WOULD EVER SAY NAZIS COMING OUT OF THE FIELDS WITH TORCHES SINGING, CARRYING SWASTIKAS THAT THEY ARE FINE PEOPLE? THE GOOD THINGS DONE, THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. NO SENSE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP? >> BOTH OF YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN TOTALLY WIPED OUT. 100% EXONERATION SO HE JUST KEEPS IT GOING. HE RAN BECAUSE IT WAS HIS LAST CHANCE. HE'S NOT EQUIPPED TO BE PRESIDENT. YOU KNOW AND I KNOW WE HAVE A DATE AND WE ARE TRYING TO JUSTIFY THE PRESIDENCY. WITHOUT A QUESTION, THE WORST PRESIDENCY IN THE HISTORY OF THE COUNTRY WE SHOULDN'T BE HAVING A DEBATE ABOUT IT. HE MADE UP THE CHARLOTTESVILLE STORY AND IT'S DEBUNKED ALL OVER THE PLACE. EVERY REASONABLE ANCHOR HAS DEBUNKED IT AND JUST THE OTHER DAY IT CAME OUT WHERE IT WAS FULLY DEBUNKED. A NONSENSE STORY. HE KNOWS THAT AND HE DIDN'T RUN BECAUSE OF CHARLOTTESVILLE. HE USED IT AS AN EXCUSE. >> IT HAPPENED. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LISTEN TO WHAT WAS SAID AT THE TIME AND THE IDEA THAT SOMEHOW THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I RAN. I RAN IF HE THOUGHT THERE WERE GOOD PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THE FOREST CARRYING THOSE TORCHES, HE DIDN'T DESERVE TO BE PRESIDENT AT ALL. THE IDEA HE'S TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS BEING FABRICATED, YOU SAW WHAT HAPPENED TO JANUARY 6TH AND PEOPLE BREAKING WINDOWS, USE ALL THE PEOPLE OCCUPYING. HIS OWN VICE PRESIDENT SAID THERE'S A REASON WHY THE TOP CABINET OFFICERS -- THE VICE PRESIDENT HADN'T ENDORSED HIM THIS TIME, SO WHY? WHY ARE THEY NOT ENDORSING HIM? >> THANK YOU. WE ARE GOING TO BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE FROM THE CNN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. >> THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. >> THIS YEARS HE'S BEEN CIVIL RIGHTS 45 YEARS OF COVERING CONGRESS LIKE NO OTHER. SINCE 1979, WE'VE BEEN YOUR PRIMARY SOURCE PROVIDING BALANCE, UNFILTERED COVERAGE OF GOVERNMENT TAKINGOU TO WHERE THE POLICIES DEBATED AND DECIDED ALL WITH THE SUPPORT OF AMERICA'S CABLE COMPANIES. C-SPAN, 45 YEARS AND COUNTING, POWERED BY CABLE. THE STATE TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. >> FOR PROGRESS AND FOR PEACE. >> ANYONE WHO SAYS THEY WON'T IS NOT TELLING THE TRUTH. >> WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF A SPRINGTIME OF HOPE FOR AMERICA. >> WE ARE THE PARTY THAT BELIEVES IN THE AMERICAN DREAM. >> READ MY LIPS. [CHEERING] I STILL BELIEVE IN A PLACE CALLED HOPE. HERE IS THE QUESTION FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO DO YOU TRUST IN THIS ELECTION. WHETHER WE WILL BUILD A BRIDGE FOR THE FUTURE OR BRIDGE THE PAST. >> I HAVE UNLIMITED CONFIDENCE AND STAND HERE TONIGHT AS MY OWN MAN AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW ME FOR WHO I TRULY AM. >> THEY HAD THEIR CHANCE. THEY HAVE NOT LED. I AM JOHN KERRY AND I'M REPORTING FOR DUTY. >> I COULD NOT FIRST THE AND WILL NOT FORGET. >> I WASN'T MY OWN MAN ANYMORE. I WAS MY COUNTRIES. >> I DON'T THINK WALL STREET WILL HELP THE SMALLER BUSINESS EXPANDER THE LAID-OFF LEADOFF CONSTRUCTION WORKER KEEP HIS HOME. WE HAVE BEEN THERE. WE TRIED THAT AND WE ARE NOT GOING BACK. WE ARE MOVING FORWARD. UNDER MY ADMINISTRATION OUR FRIENDS WILL SEE MORE LOYALTY AND A LITTLE LESS FLEXIBILITY. >> HE WANTS TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. HE CAN START BY ACTUALLY MAKING THINGS IN AMERICA AGAIN. WE WILL MAKE AMERICA SAFE AGAIN, AND WE WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. HERE AND NOW I GIVE YOU MY WORD IF YOU END TRUST ME WITH THE PRESIDENCY, I WILL DRAW ON THE BEST OF US, NOT TO THE WORST. THIS TOWERING AMERICAN SPIRIT SPIRITHAS PREVAILED OVER EVERY CHALLENGE AND HAS LIFTED US TO THE SUMMIT OF HUMAN ENDEAVOR. >> WATCH C-SPAN'S CAMPAIGN 2024 LIVE COVERAGE OF THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION STARTING JULY 15TH AND THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION BEGINNING AUGUST 19TH. YOUR UNFILTERED VIEW OF THE CONVENTION POWERED BY CABLE. AND IN JUST A MOMENT, OUR SIMULCAST OF THE CNN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE BETWEEN PRESIDENT BIDEN AND FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL RESUME, THIS IS HAPPENING LIVE FROM CNN STUDIOS IN ATLANTA. WELCOME BACK TO THE CNN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE LIVE FROM GEORGIA. LET'S TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC CHALLENGES YOU BOTH BASED IN YOUR FIRST TERMS, AND YOU WOULD CERTAINLY FACE AGAIN IN THE SECOND TERM. PRESIDENT BIDEN, WHILE BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT DROPPED TO A RECORD LOW UNDER YOUR PRESIDENCY, BLACK FAMILIES STILL EARNED FAR LESS THAN WHITE FAMILIES. BLACK MOTHERS ARE STILL THREE TIMES MORE LIKELY TO DIE FROM PREGNANCY -RELATED CAUSES, AND BLACK AMERICANS ARE IN PRISON ABOUT FIVE TIMES THE RATE OF WHITE AMERICANS. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO BLACK VOTERS THAT ARE DISAPPOINTED THAT YOU HAVEN'T MADE MORE PROGRESS? >> ACKNOWLEDGE WE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS, NUMBER ONE. SECOND, THERE IS MORE SMALL BLACK BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN STARTED BAN ANY TIME IN HISTORY. NUMBER TWO, BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT IS THE LOWEST IT'S BEEN IN A LONG TIME. NUMBER THREE, WE ARE FINDING HOUSING [INAUDIBLE] THAT EXISTS AMONG THAT COLLUDE TO KEEP PEOPLE OUT OF HOUSES. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE FIND THAT THE IMPACT, THE CHOICE THAT BLACK FAMILIES HAVE TO MAKE RELATIVE TO CHILDCARE IS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT. AND WE DID THE FIRST MAJOR PIECE OF LEGISLATION IN THE PAST I WAS ABLE TO REDUCE BLACK CHILDCARE COSTS, I CUT THEM IN HALF. WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE THE CHILD CARE COSTS AND MAKE SURE BECAUSE WHEN THEY PROVIDED THE CHILDCARE PROTECTIONS, YOUR INCREASING THEIR ECONOMIC GROWTH BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE CAN BEGIN THE JOB MARKET. SO THERE'S MORE TO BE DONE, CONSIDERABLY MORE TO BE DONE. BUT WE'VE DONE A GREAT DEAL SO FAR. >> YOU HAVE 49 SECONDS LEFT. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO BLACK VOTERS WHO ARE DISAPPOINTED WITH THE PROGRESS SO FAR? >> I SAY I DON'T BLAME YOU FOR BEING DISAPPOINTED. INFLATION IS STILL HURTING BADLY. I PROVIDED FOR THE IDEA THAT ANY BLACK FAMILY, FIRST-TIME HOMEBUYER SHOULD GET A $10,000 TAX CREDIT TO BE ABLE TO BUY THEIR FIRST HOME SO THEY CAN GET STARTED. I MADE SURE WE ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE ALL THOSE BLACK FAMILIES AND BLACK INDIVIDUALS ARE PROVIDED STUDENT LOANS AND -- ANYTHING TO DO WITH VOLUNTEERISM IF THEY PAY THEIR BILLS FOR TEN YEARS, ON THEIR STUDENT DEBT, THE REST IS FORGIVEN AFTER TEN YEARS. MILLIONS HAVE BENEFITED FROM THAT AND WE ARE GOING TO DO A WHOLE LOT MORE FOR BLACK FAMILIES. >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT TRUMP? >> AND HE CAUSED THE INFLATION. HE'S BLAMING THE INFLATION . IS RIGHT IT'S BEEN VERY BAD -- HE CAUSED THE INFLATION AND IT'S KILLING BLACK FAMILIES AND HISPANIC FAMILIES INTO JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY. IT'S KILLING PEOPLE. THEY CAN'T BUY GROCERIES ANYMORE. YOU LOOK AT THE COST OF FOOD, WHERE IT'S DOUBLED AND TRIPLED AND QUADRUPLED. THEY CAN'T LIVE, THEY ARE NOT LIVING ANYMORE. HE CAUSED THIS INFLATION. I GAVE HIM A COUNTRY WITH NO, ESSENTIALLY NO INFLATION. IT WAS PERFECT. ALL HE HAD TO DO IS LEAVE IT ALONE. HE DESTROYED HIS WITH HIS NEW SCAM AND ALL THE OTHER, ALL THIS MONEY THAT'S BEING THROWN OUT THE WINDOW. HE CAUSED INFLATION. AS SURE AS YOU ARE SITTING THERE, THE FACT IS THAT HIS BIG DEAL WITH THE BLACK PEOPLE IS THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HE'S ALLOWED TO COME IN THROUGH THE BORDER, THEY'VE TAKEN BLACK JOBS NOW AND IT COULD BE 18, IT COULD BE 19 AND EVEN 20 MILLION PEOPLE THEY ARE TAKING LACK OF JOBS AND TAKING HISPANIC JOBS, AND YOU HAVEN'T SEEN BUT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOMETHING THAT IS THE WORST IN OUR HISTORY. >> PRESIDENT BIDEN? >> THERE WAS NO INFLATION WHEN I BECAME PRESIDENT. YOU KNOW WHY, THE ECONOMY WAS FLAT ON ITS BACK, 15% UNEMPLOYMENT. HE DOES I MADE THE ECONOMY. THAT'S WHY THERE IS NO INFLATION AT THE TIME. THERE WERE NO JOBS. PROVIDED THOUSANDS AND MILLIONS OF JOBS FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE IN THE COMMUNITIES INCLUDING MINORITY COMMUNITIES. WE MADE SURE THEY HAD HEALTH INSURANCE. WE HAVE COVERED, THE ACA, I MADE SURE THERE ARE $8,000 PER PERSON FOR A FAMILY WITH HEALTH CARE. BUT THIS GUY WANTS TO ELIMINATE THAT. HE WANTS TO GET RID OF THE ACA AGAIN AND THEY ARE GOING TO TRY AGAIN. WE FIND OURSELVES IN THE POSITION WHERE THE IDEA THAT WE ARE NOT DOING -- I PUT MORE, WE PUT MORE POLICE ON THE STREET THAN ANY ADMINISTRATION HAS. HE WANTS TO CUT THE COPS AND PROVIDING FOR EQUITY AND MAKING SURE PEOPLE HAVE A SHOT TO MAKE IT. THERE'S A LOT GOING ON. THE INFLATION, HE CAUSED IT BY HIS TREMENDOUS MALFEASANCE INTO THE WAY HE HANDLED THE PANDEMIC. >> THANK YOU. ANOTHER CHALLENGE IS THE CLIMATE CRISIS. THE 2023 WAS THE HOTTEST YEAR IN RECORDED HISTORY IN THE COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THEY ARE CONFRONTING THE DEVASTATING EFFECTS OF EXTREME HEAT, INTENSIFYING WILDFIRES, STRONGER HURRICANES AND RISING SEA LEVELS. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP, YOU VOWED TO END YOUR OPPONENTS CLIMATE INITIATIVE, BUT WILL YOU TAKE ANY ACTION AS PRESIDENT TO SLOW THE CLIMATE CRISIS? >> LET ME GO BACK TO WHAT HE SAID ABOUT HOW CLOSE. ALMOST EVERY POLICE GROUP IN THE NATION FROM EVERY STATE IS SUPPORTING DONALD TRUMP. ALMOST EVERY POLICE GROUP. AND WHAT HE'S DONE TO THE BLACK POPULATION IS HORRIBLE. INCLUDING THE FACT THAT FOR TEN YEARS HE CALLED THEM SUPER PREDATORS. WE CAN'T FORGET THAT. A SUPER PREDATORS WAS HIS NAME. AND HE CALLED THEM AND THEY'VE TAKEN GREAT OFFENSE AND NOW THEY SEE IT HAPPENING. BUT WHEN THEY SEE WHAT I'VE DONE FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM AND FOR THE HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES WHERE I FUNDED THEM AND GOT THEM ALL FUNDED AND THE OPPORTUNITIES WITH AS YOU KNOW TIM SCOTT WAS INCREDIBLE, HE DID A GREAT JOB, GREAT SENATOR FROM SOUTH CAROLINA. HE CAME TO ME WITH OF THE IDEA AND IT'S ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTS EVER IN THE COUNTRY. OPPORTUNITIES INTO THE BIGGEST BENEFICIARY ARE BLACKS AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE BEST NUMBERS WITH THEM MAYBE EVER. THEY ARE SAYING EVER. I READ THIS MORNING HE IS LOST MUCH OF THE BLACK POPULATION BECAUSE HE HAS DONE A HORRIBLE JOB FOR BLACK PEOPLE. HE'S ALSO DONE A HORRIBLE JOB FOR HISPANICS. BUT WHERE DO YOU SEE THESE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE POURING INTO THE COUNTRY, AND THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE THE JOBS AND IT'S ALREADY STARTED. YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING YET. IT'S WANT TO ABSOLUTELY CLEAN AIR. WE HAD IT. WITH THE BEST NUMBERS EVER AND WE WEREN'T USING ALL FORMS OF ENERGY. ALL FORMS, EVERYTHING. AND DURING MY FOUR YEARS I HAD THE BEST ENVIRONMENTAL NUMBERS EVER. MY TOP ENVIRONMENTAL PEOPLE GAVE ME THAT STATISTIC JUST BEFORE I WALKED ON THE STAGE ACTUALLY. >> I DO NOT KNOW WHERE HE HAS BEEN. THE IDEA THAT HE SAID IS TRUE I PASSED THE MOST EXPENSIVE MOST EXTENSIVE CLIMATE CHANGE LEGISLATION IN HISTORY, IN HISTORY. FIND OURSELVES AND BY THE WAY BLACK COLLEGES, I CAME UP WITH $15 BILLION FOR HBC'S HISTORIC BLACK UNIVERSITY AND COLLEGES BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE THE KIND OF CONTRIBUTORS TO BUILD THESE LABORATORIES AND THE LIKE. ANY BLACK STUDENT IS CAPABLE OF DOING WHAT ANY WHITE STUDENT CAN DO IF THEY HAVE THE MONEY. NOW THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET THOSE JOBS IN HIGH TECH. A SITUATION WHERE THE IDEA THAT HE IS CLAIMING TO HAVE THE CLEANEST WATER? THE CLEANEST WATER? HE HAS NOT DONE A THING FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. THE PIECE CLIMATE ACCORD I IMMEDIATELY JOINED IT BECAUSE 1.5 DEGREES CELSIUS AND THERE IS NO WAY BACK. THE ONLY EXISTENIAL THREAT TO HUMANITY IS CLIMATE CHANGE. AND HE DID NOT DO A THING ABOUT IT. HE WANTS TO UNDO ALL THAT I HAVE DONE. >> THE PARIS ESCORT IS GOING TO COST US A TRILLION DOLLARS. CHINA NOTHING AND RUSSIA NOTHING AND YET NOTHING FOR IT IS A RIPOFF OF THE UNITED STATES. AND I ENDED IT I DID NOT WANT TO WASTE THAT MONEY BECAUSE THEY TREAT US HORRIBLY. WHERE THE ONLY ONES IT WAS COSTING US MONEY NOBODY ELSE WAS PAYING INTO IT. AND IT WAS A DISASTER. BUT EVERYTHING HE SAID JUST NOW. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE HE SAID INSOLENT I'M THE ONE THAT GOT THE INSULIN DOWN FOR THE SENIORS. I TOOK CARE OF THE SENIORS WHAT HE IS DOING IS DESTROYING ALL OF OUR MEDICAL PROGRAMS BECAUSE THE MIGRANTS COMING IN ONCE EVERYBODY. LOOK I HAVE THE BIGGEST HEART ON THE STAGE I CAN GUARANTEE THAT I WANT TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE BUT WE ARE DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY BUT THEY ARE TAKING OVER OUR SCHOOLS, OUR HOSPITALS ARE GOING TO TAKE OVER SOCIAL SECURITY. HE IS DESTROYING SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE AND MEDICAID. >> THE IDEA THAT WE IN FACT, WE ARE THE ONLY ONES OF CONSEQUENCE WHO ARE NOT, ARE NOT MEMBERS OF THE PARIS ACCORD. HOW CAN WE DO ANYTHING IF THE UNITED STATES CANNOT GET IT UNDER CONTROL? WE ARE MAKING SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS BY 2035 WE WILL HAVE. WE HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS. WE ARE CONTINUING TO MAKE PROGRESS FROM SET UP A CLIMATE ACCORD THOUSANDS OF YOUNG PEOPLE LEARN HOW TO DEAL JUST LIKE A PEACE CORPS. WE ARE MOVING IN DIRECTIONS THAT WILL SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE THE ELEMENTS AND BECAUSE OF POLLUTION. BUT THE IDEA HE CLAIMS HE HAS THE BIGGEST HEART APPEAR AND HE IS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT POLLUTION AND ABOUT CLIMATE, I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY INDICATION OF THAT. AND BY THE WAY WITH REGARD TO PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, ONE COMPANY AGREED THEY WOULD REDUCE THE COST TO 35 WHICH WAS ONE OF VOLUNTEERED I MADE SURE EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD EVERY PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY. AND BY THE WAY. >> EVERY DAY MILLIONS OF AMERICANS STRUGGLED JUST TO MAKE ENDS MEET. FOR MANY OLDER AMERICAN SOCIAL SECURITY PROVIDES A CRITICAL LIFELINE. PRESIDENT BIDEN IF NOTHING IS DONE TO SOCIAL SECURITY SENIORS WILL SEE THEIR BENEFITS CUT IN JUST OVER 10 YEARS APART WILL YOU NAME TONIGHT ONE SPECIFIC STEP YOU ARE WILLING TO TAKE TO KEEP SOCIAL SECURITY SOLVENT? X YES YES MAKE THE VERY WEALTHY BEGIN TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE BUT RIGHT NOW EVERYBODY MAKING UNWANTED $70000 PAY 6% OF THEIR INCOME OF THEIR PAYCHECK EVERYTHING WILL TIME TO GET A PAYCHECK WHEN THEY'RE 18 YEARS OLD. THE IDEA I AM PROPOSING MILLIONAIRES PAY 1%, 1%. NOT RAISE THE COST OF SOCIAL SECURITY FOR ANYBODY UNDER $400,000 BUT AFTER THAT YOU BEGIN TO MAKE THE WEALTHY BEGIN TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE. BY INCREASING FROM 1% TO BE ABLE TO GUARANTEE THE PROGRAM FOR LIFE. >> IS ~ 82 SECONDS LEFT THERE AT THE ANY OTHER MEASURES YOU THINK WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP KEEP SOCIAL SECURITY SOLVENT OR IS THAT WHAT ENOUGH? >> THAT WILL KEEP IT SOLVENT FOR THE BIGGEST THING WILL DO IF WE DEFEAT THIS MAN BECAUSE HE WANTS TO GET RID OF SOCIAL SECURITY FREETHINKERS PLATED CUT IN SOCIAL SECURITY WANTS TO CUT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE BOTH TIMES AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROGRAM PUT FORWARD THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS THAT HE SUPPORTS IS IN FACT WANTS TO CUT IT AS WELL. THE IDEA WHAT WE DO NOT NEED TO PROTECT OUR SENIORS IS RIDICULOUS. BY THE WAY THE AMERICAN PUBLIC AS TRADE HEALTHCARE COVERAGE TODAY THAN EVER BEFORE. AND AS I SAID YOUR ARE IN A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE 400,000 PEOPLE I MEAN 40 MILLION PEOPLE WOULD NOT HAVE INSURANCE BECAUSE OF A PREVIOUS CONDITION. IT ALLOWS THEM TO HAVE INSURANCE IS THE FACT THAT THEY IN FACT ARE PART OF THE NACA. THE OTHER THING WE ARE IN A SITUATION I TALK ABOUT EDUCATION FOR BLACK COMMUNITIES. I HAVE READ THE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR PELL GRANTS ANOTHER $8000 PEOPLE MAKING UNDER $70000 A YEAR WILL BE ABLE TO GET $15000 TOWARDS THEIR TUITION. HE JUST DOES NOT KNOW IT IS TALKING ABOUT A QUICK THANK YOU PRESIDENT BIDEN, PRESIDENT TRUMP? >> I HAVE DEALT POLITICIANS ALL MY LIFE. I HAVE BEEN ON THE SIDE OF THE EQUATION FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS. I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYONE LIGHT LIKE THIS GUY. HE COULD LOOK YOU IN THE FACE AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS, TOO. WE MENTION THE LAPTOP WE MENTIONED RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA, WE MENTIONED UKRAINE. EVERYTHING HE DOE IS ELIDES MISINFORMATION AND DISINFORMATION. THE LOSERS AND SUCKER STORY HE MADE UP WAS A TOTAL LIE ON THE MILITARY. IT IS A DISGRACE. BUT SOCIAL SECURITY, HE IS DESTROYING IT BECAUSE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE POURING INTO OUR COUNTRY AND THEY'RE PUTTING THEM ONTO SOCIAL SECURITY. THEY'RE PUTTING THEM ONTO MEDICARE AND MEDICAID THEY'RE PUTTING THEM IN OUR HOSPITALS. THEY ARE TAKING THE PLACE OF OUR CITIZENS BUT THEY ARE DOING TO THE VA TO OUR VETERANS IS UNBELIEVABLE OUR VETERANS ARE LIVING IN THE STREETS THESE PEOPLE LIVING IN LUXURY HOTELS. HE DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING AND IT'S REALLY COMING BACK I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH ANGER IN OUR COUNTRY BEFORE. >> PRESIDENT BIDEN? >> THE IDEA VETERANS ARE NOT BEING TAKEN CARE OF I TOLD YOU BEFORE AND BY THE WAY WHAT I SAID SUCKERS AND LOSERS HE ACKNOWLEDGED HE FIRED THAT GENERAL THAT GENERAL GOT FIRED BECAUSE HE IS THE ONE THAT ACKNOWLEDGED "THAT'S WHAT HE SAID" HE WAS THE ONE STANDING WITH TRUMP WHAT HE SAID IT. NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO THE IDEA WILL BE IN A SITUATION ALL OF THESE IN MILLIONS AND MILLIONS THE WAY HE TALKS ABOUT ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE COMING INTO THE COUNTRY AND TAKING AWAY OUR JOBS. THERE IS A REASON WHY WE HAVE THE FASTEST GROWING ECONOMY IN THE WORLD WITH THE REASON WHY WE HAVE THE MOST SUCCESSFUL ECONOMY IN THE WORLD. WERE DOING BETTER THAN ANY OTHER NATION IN THE WORLD. BY THE WAY HE TALKS ABOUT BEING PHONY THOSE ECONOMISTS ALL SAID IF TRUMP IS REELECTED WERE LIKELY TO HAVE A RECESSION AND INFLATION IS GOING TO INCREASE AND GO UP. BY THE WAY THE WORST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY ONE OR 59 PRESIDENTIAL SCHOLARS VOTED HIM THE WORST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY THAN ISAACS OF AMERICA EXPRESSING BIDEN THANK YOU SO MUCH AS TURNED TO THE CAUSE OF CHILD CARE AT MANY FAMILY STRUGGLE TO AFFORD PRESIDENT TRUMP BOTH YOU AND PRESIDENT BIDEN HAVE TRIED TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE THE AVERAGE COST OF CHILDCARE IN THIS COUNTRY HAS RISEN TO MORE THAN $11000 A YEAR PER CHILD FOR MANY FAMILIES THE COST OF CHILDCARE FOR TWO CHILDREN IS MORE THAN THEIR RENT. IN YOUR SECOND TERM WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO MAKE CHILDCARE MORE AFFORDABLE? >> COULD BE GO BACK THE GENERAL GOT FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS SO GOOD. AND IT BE SAID THAT THAT'S WHAT HE MADE IT UP. WE HAVE 19 PEOPLE SAID I DID NOT SIT THERE VERY HIGHLY RESPECTED MUCH MORE SO THAN HIM. THE OTHER THING IS HE DOESN'T FIRE PEOPLE UP OR HE NEVER FIRED PEOPLE I'VE NEVER SEEN HIM FIRE ANYBODY I DID FIRE A LOT I FIRED CALM HE WAS SO GOT UP FIRED A LOT OF THE TOP PEOPLE AT THE FBI DRAIN THE SWAMP. THEY WERE NO GOOD. NOT EASY TO FIRE PEOPLE YOU PAY A PRICE FOR IT THEY WERE NO GOOD I INHERITED THESE PEOPLE I DID NOT BUCKLE ME THERE HE WAS NO GOOD. I FIRED HIM. THIS GUY IS NOT FIRED ANYONE. HE SHOULD HAVE FIRED EVERY MILITARY MAN THAT WAS INVOLVED WITH THAT AFGHAN HORROR SHOW. THE MOST EMBARRASSING MOMENT IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY. HE DID NOT BUY OR DID YOU FIRE ANYBODY? DID YOU FIRE ANYBODY THAT'S ON THE BORDER THAT HAS ALLOWED US HAVE THE WORST BORDER IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD DID ANYBODY GET FIRED FOR ALLOWING 18 MILLION PEOPLE MANY FROM PRISONS, MANY FROM MENTAL INSTITUTION SAID YOU FIRE ANYBODY THAT ALLOWED OUR COUNTRY TO BE DESTROYED? JOE, OUR COUNTRIES BEING DESTROYED AS YOU AND I SIT AT. WASTE A LOT OF TIME ON THIS DEBATE THIS SHOULD NOT BE A DEBATE HE IS THE WORST PRESIDENT HE JUST SAID IT ABOUT ME BECAUSE I SAID IT. LOOK HE IS THE WORST PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY HE HAS DESTROYED OUR COUNTRY IT NOW ALL THE SAID HE'S TRYING TO GET A LITTLE TOUGH ON THE BOARD HE CAME OUT WITH A NOTHING DEAL. REDUCE IT A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT LIKE THIS MUCH IT IS INSIGNIFICANT. HE WANTS OPEN BORDERS PRETTY WANTS OUR COUNTRY TO EITHER BE DESTROYED OR HE WAS TO PICK UP THOSE PEOPLE AS VOTERS. WE CANNOT LET IT HAPPEN. IF HE WINS THIS ELECTION OUR COUNTRY DOES NOT HAVE A CHANCE NOT EVEN A CHANCE OF COMING OUT OF THIS RUT WE PROBABLY WILL NOT HAVE A COUNTRY LEFT ANYMORE THAT IS HOW BATTERY IT IS HE'S THE WORST IN HISTORY BY FAR. >> THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP, PRESIDENT BIDEN? WORKS ARE THE MOST ADMIRED COUNTRY THE WORLD WE ARE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THERE IS NOTHING BEYOND OUR CAPACITY OF THE FINEST MILITARY IN HISTORY OF THE WORLD THE FINEST HISTORY IN THE WORLD. TH. NO ONE WANTS TO SCREW AROUND WITH US, NOBODY NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO THE IDEA WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WORCHESTER PRESIDENT I WAS NOT JOKING LOOK IT UP OR GO OR 59 OR 58 I DON'TE EXACT NUMBER PRESIDENTIAL HISTORIANS HAVE HAD MEETINGS AND VOTED WHO IS THE WORST PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY? BEST TO WORST THEY SAID HE WAS THE WORST IN ALL OF AMERICAN HISTORY PARADE THAT IS A FACT THAT IS NOT CONJECTURE. HE CAN ARGUE THEY ARE WRONG BUT THAT IS WHAT THEY VOTED WITH THE IDEA HE'S NOT DOING ANYTHING TO DEAL WITH CHILDCARE HE DID VIRTUALLY NOTHING WITH CHILDCARE THAT SHOULD SIGNIFICANT RECEIPT CHILDCARE TAX CREDIT WE SHOULD SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE AVAILABILITY OF WOMEN AND MEN SINGLE PARENTS GO BACK TO WORK AND WE SHOULD ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES TO HOLD. HAVE A. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP A QUESTION WAS WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO MAKE CHILDCARE MORE AFFORDABLE A JOY TO TAKE THE MINUTE PROGRESS JUST YOU UNDERSTAND WE HAVE POLLING, WE HAVE OTHER THINGS THEY TREAT THEM THE WORST BECAUSE WHAT HE'S DONE SO BAD. I WILL SHOW YOU I WILL SHOW YOU THEY REACH MEET ONE OF THE BEST. IF I AM GIVEN ANOTHER FOUR YEARS I WILL BE THE BEST I THINK I WILL BE THE BEST. NOBODY IS EVER CREATED AN ECONOMY LIKE US. KNOWING CUT TAXES LIKE US. HE IS THE ONLY ONE I KNOW HE WANTS TO RAISE YOUR TAXES BY FOUR-TIME SEALANTS TO RAISE EVERYBODY'S TAXES BY FOUR TIMES HE WANTS THE TRUMP TAX CUTS TO EXPIRE INCLUDING THE TWO OF YOU WILL PAY FOR -- FIVE TIMES BUT NOBODY HEARD OF THIS BEFORE ALL MY LIFE I GROW UP AND SEE POLITICIANS TALK ABOUT CUTTING TAXES. WE CUT TAXES AS I SAID WE DID MORE BUSINESS APPLE IN ALL OF THESE COMPANIES WERE BRINGING MONEY BACK INTO OUR COUNTRY FOR THE WORST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY BY FAR AND EVERYBODY KNOWS IT. >> PRESIDENT BIDEN QUESTION. >> THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS HE IS DEAD WRONG HE HAS INCREASE TARIFFS HE WILL INCREASE THE TAXES ON MIDDLE-CLASS PEOPLE. I SAID I WOULD NEVER RAISE THE TAX UPON ANYONE MAKING LESS THAN $40000 I DIDN'T. THIS TARIFF THIS A 10% TAX EVERYTHING COMING INTO THE COUNTRY AND WITH THE ECONOMIST SAY? THAT'S GONNA COST THE AVERAGE AMERICAN $2500 A YEAR OR MORE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING HAVE TO PAY THE DIFFERENCE IN FOOD AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT. NUMBER TWO HE IS IN A SITUATION WHERE HE TALKS ABOUT HE HAS NOT RAISED -- HE SOMEHOW HELPED THE MIDDLE-CLASS. THE MIDDLE CLASS HAS BEEN DEVASTATED BY YOU. NOW YOU WANT IN YOUR TAX CUT OF $5 TRILLION OF THE NEXT 10 YEARS WHICH IS GOING TO FUNDAMENTALLY BANKRUPT THE COUNTRY. IF THE LARGEST DEFICIT OF ANY PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO YOU HAVE NOT IN FACT MADE ANY CONTACT ANY PROGRESS WITH CHINA. WHERE THAT LOWEST TRADE DEFICIT WITH CHINA SINCE 2010. >> THANK YOU PRESIDENT BIDEN FOR THANK YOU PRESIDENT BIDEN. LET'S DISCUSS AN EPIDEMIC IMPACTING MILLIONS OF AMERICANS THAT BOTH OF YOU HAVE MADE A TOP PRIORITY IN YOUR FIRST TERM. THE OPIOID CRISIS. AND FOR BOTH OF YOU THE NUMBER OF OVERDOSE DEATHS IN THIS COUNTRY HAS GONE UP UNDER YOUR TERM IT WENT UP UNDER YOUR TERM IT WENT UP. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP DESPITE THE EFFORTS OF BOTH OF YOU HAVE MADE MORE THAN 1000 AMERICANS ARE DYING FROM OVERDOSES EVERY YEAR PRIMARILY FROM FENTANYL AND OTHER OPIOIDS. WHAT WILL YOU DO TO HELP AMERICANS RIGHT NOW IN THE THROES OF ADDICTION WHO ARE STRUGGLING TO GET THE TREATMENT THEY NEED? >> TO FINISH UP WE HAVE THE LARGEST DEFICIT IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY UNDER THIS GUY BUT WE HAVE THE LARGEST DEFICIT WITH CHINA. HE GETS PAID BY CHINA HEAT GETS MONEY FROM CHINA. I THINK HE IS AFRAID TO DEAL WITH HIM OR SOMETHING. BUT DO YOU NOTICE HE NEVER TOOK OUT MY TARIFFS BECAUSE WE BRING IN SO MUCH MONEY WITH THE TARIFFS I IMPOSE ON CHINA. HE NEVER TOOK THEM AWAY HE CAN'T BECAUSE IT'S TOO MUCH MONEY IT IS TREMENDOUS. THERE IS MORE TO COME BUT HE IS NOT DONE THAT. HE IS NOT CUT THE TARIFFS BECAUSE HE CAN'T BECAUSE IT'S TOO MUCH MONEY BUT HE'S GOT THE LARGEST DEFICIT AND THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY BUT HE'S GOT THE WORST SITUATION WITH CHINA. CHINA WILL OWN IS THAT YOU KEEP ALLOWING THEM TO DO WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO US AS A COUNTRY. THEY ARE KILLING US AS A COUNTRY AND YOU CANNOT LET THAT HAPPEN. YOU ARE DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP GIVES 67 QUESTIONS LEFT. WHEN YOU WENT YOU TO HELP AMERICANS IN THE THROES OF ADDICTION WHO ARE STRUGGLING TO GET THE TREATMENT THEY NEED? >> WE ARE DOING VERY WELL AT ADDICTION UNTIL COVID CAME ALONG WE HAD TWO AND HALF ALMOST THREE YEARS OF LIKE NOBODY'S EVER HAD BEFORE ANY COUNTRY IN EVERY WAY. AND THEN WE HAD TO GET TOUGH IS DRUGS POURING ACROSS THE BORDER, STARTED TO INCREASE WE'VE GOT GREAT EQUIPMENT. WE BOUGHT A CERTAIN DOG WITH THE MOST INCREDIBLE THING YOU'VE SEEN THE WAY THEY CAN SPOT IT. WE DID A LOT. WE WERE GETTING VERY LOW NUMBERS BUT VERY, VERY LOW NUMBERS AND HE CAME ALONG. HAVE USE IN THE NUMBERS NOW? THAT'S NOT ON THE 18 MILLION PEOPLE I BELIEVE IS EVEN LOW THE GOT A WAYS THEY DON'T TALK ABOUT GOD ALWAYS. THE AMOUNT OF DRUGS AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING IN WOMEN COMING ACROSS OUR BOARD THE WORST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN. NO NUMBE NOBODY'S EVER SEEN UNDER THE HIM BECAUSE THE BORDER IS SO BAD. THE NUMBER OF DRUGS COMING ACROSS OUR BORDER IS THE LARGEST WE'VE EVER HAD BY FAR PER. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP THANK YOU, PRESIDENT BIDEN? >> SENTINEL AND THE BYPRODUCTS OF FENTANYL WENT DOWN FOR A WHILE BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE USE THE MACHINERY THAT CAN DETECT FENTANYL. THESE BIG MACHINES ROLL OVER EVERYTHING THAT COMES ACROSS THE BORDER AND IT COST A LOT OF MONEY THAT WAS PART OF THE DEAL WE PUT TOGETHER THIS BIPARTISAN DEAL. MORE FENTANYL MACHINES, MORE TO DETE DRUGS. MORE NUMBERS OF AGENTS. MORE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE AT THE BORDER. WHEN WE HAD THAT DEAL DONE HE CALLS HIS REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES AND SAID DON'T DO IT'S GOING TO HURT ME POLITICALLY. HE NEVER ARGUED IT'S NOT A GOOD BILL IT'S A REALLY GOOD BILL. WE NEED THOSE MACHINES. WE NEED THOSE MACHINES WE ARE COMING DOWN VERY HARD ON EVERY COUNTRY IN ASIA IN TERMS OF PRECURSORS FOR FENTANYL AND MEXICO IS WORKING WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE TECHNOLOGY TO PUT IT TOGETHER. THAT IS SO WE HAVE TO DO WE NEED THOSE MACHINES. >> THANK YOU PRESIDENT BIDEN. PRESIDENT TRUMP AGAIN THE QUESTION IS ABOUT AMERICANS AND THE THROES OF ADDICTION RIGHT NOW STRUGGLING TO GET THE TREATMENT THEY NEED. >> THIS DOES PERTAIN TO IT. HE ENDED REMAIN AND MEXICO BUT HE ENDED CATCH AND RELEASE AND MADE A CATCH AND RELEASE AND MEXICO NOT CATCH AND RELEASE HERE. WE HAD SO MANY THINGS WE HAD THAT HARD NEGOTIATIONS WITH MEXICO WE GOT IT ALL FOR NOTHING. IT'S LIKE WE HAVE A HOSTAGE $6 BILLION FOR EVERY TIME WITH THE HOSTAGE. NOW WE HAVE A HOSTAGE A WALL STREET JOURNAL REPORTER. I THINK A GOOD GUY. HE IS OVER THERE BECAUSE OF PUTIN IS LAUGHING AT THIS GUY PROBABLY ASKING FOR BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR THE REPORTER I WILL HAVE HIM OUT VERY QUICKLY AS SOON AS I TAKE OFFICE BEFORE HE TAKES OFFICE I SAID LITERALLY AS SOON AS I WIN THE ELECTION I WILL HAVE THAT REPORTER OUT HE SHOULD'VE HAD THEM OUT A LONG TIME AGO BUT PUTIN IS PROBABLY ASKING FOR BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS BECAUSE THIS GUY EVERY TIME WE HAD TWO CASES PAID $6 BILLION FOR FIVE PEOPLE I GOT 58 PEOPLE OUT AND I PAID ESSENTIALLY NOTHING. >> THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP. >> LET'S TURN TO CONCERNS VOTERS HAVE ABOUT EACH OF YOU. PRESIDENT BIDEN, YOU WOULD BE 86 AT THE END OF YOUR SECOND TERM. HOW DO YOU ADDRESS CONCERNS ABOUT YOUR CAPABILITY TO HANDLE THE TOUGHEST JOB IN THE WORLD WELL INTO YOUR 80s. >> THE FIRST OF ALL I SPENT HALF OF MY CAREER BEING CRITICIZED BEING THE YOUNGEST PERSON IN POLITICS AS A SECOND YOUNGEST PERSON EVER ELECTED TO THE UNITED STATES SENATE AND NOW I AM THE OLDEST BIRD THIS GUY IS THREE YEARS YOUNGER A LOT LESS COMPETENT BUT LOOK AT THE RECORD, LOOK AT WHAT I'VE DONE LINK HOW IT TURNED ON THE HORRIBLE SITUATION. 50 MILLION NEW JOBS. THESE ARE MANUFACTURING JOBS. MORE INVESTMENT IN AMERICA OVER BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF INVESTMENT AND ENTERPRISES WE ARE GROWING. BY THE WAY WE BROUGHT AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE. THE WHOLE IDEA OF COMPUTER CHIPS WE INVENTED THOSE CHIPS AND WE LOST IT HE WAS HANDING PEOPLE THE CHEAPEST JOBS OVERSEAS AND BRING HOME A PRODUCT. SO I WENT TO SOUTH KOREA. I CONVINCED SAMSUNG TO INVEST BILLIONS OF DOLLARS HERE IN THE UNITED STATES AND GUESS WHAT, TO BUILD THESE CHIPS THEY PAY OVER ONE HER TO THOUSAND DOLLARS YOU DO NOT NEED A COLLEGE DEGREE FOR THEM AND THERE'S A BILLIONS ABOUT $40 BILLION ARE TO BE INVESTED IN BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW IN THE UNITED STATES CREATING SIGNIFICANT JOBS FOR AMERICANS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD TOO. >> PRESIDENT BIDEN 40 SECONDS LEFT A JOY TO ADD ANYTHING? >> YES I WOULD. THE IDEA THAT SOMEHOW WE ARE FAILING COUNTRY BUT I'VE NEVER HEARD OF PRESIDENT TALK LIKE THIS BEFORE. NAME ME A SINGLE MAJOR COUNTRY PRESIDENT WHO WOULD NOT TRADE PLACES WITH THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS AND ALL OF OUR OPPORTUNITIES WITH MOST PROGRESSIVE COUNTRY IN THE WORLD GETTING THINGS OUT THE STRONGEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. WE ARE A COUNTRY WHO KEEPS OUR WORT AND EVERYBODY TRUSTS US. ALL OF OUR ALLIES. AND THOSE WHO HE CUDDLES UP TO FROM KIM JONG-UN WHEN HE SENT LOVE LETTERS TO AND PUTIN ET CETERA THEY DO NOT WANT TO SCREW AROUND WITH US. >> THANK YOU. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP TO FOLLOW UP YOU WOULD BE 82 AT THE END OF YOUR SECOND TERM. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO VOTERS WHO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT YOUR CAPABILITIES TO SERVE? ASK I TOOK TWO COGNITIVE TESTS AND I ACED BOTH OF THEM AS YOU KNOW IT WE MADE IT PUBLIC HE TOOK IT NOT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIM TAKE ONE, JUST WON A REALLY EASY WHEN GROWTH OF THE FIRST FIVE QUESTIONS HE COULDN'T DO IT. I TOOK TWO COGNITIVE TEST I TOOK PHYSICAL EXAMS EVERY YEAR AND KNOCK ON WOOD WHEREVER WE MAY HAVE WHAT I AM IN VERY GOOD HEALTH. I JUST WANT TO CLUB CHAMPIONS NOT EVEN CEDED TO REGULAR CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS TO DO THAT YOU HAVE TO BE QUITE SMART YOU HAVE TO BUILD HIT THE BALL A LONG WAY AND I DO IT FOR HE DOESN'T DO IT HE CAN'T HIT A BALL 50 YEARS HE CHALLENGED ME TOO A GOLF MATCH HE CANNOT HIT A BALL 50 YARDS. I THINK I'M IN VERY GOOD SHAPE I FEEL I AM AS IN AS GOOD A SHAPE AS I WAS 25 OR 30 YEARS GONE PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT LIGHTER. I AM IN AS GOOD A SHAPE AS I WAS YEARS AGO. I FEEL VERY GOOD. I FEEL THE SAME. I WAS WILLING TO TAKE A COGNITIVE TEST AND IF I DIDN'T DO WELL, I ACED THEM. DOCTOR RONNY JACKSON WHO IS A GREAT GUY HE WAS THE WHITE HOUSE DOCTOR TOOK ANOTHER 18 SIMILAR ONE ONE OF THEM SAID THEY'D NEVER SEEN ANYONE ACED THEM. >> THANK YOU PRESIDENT BIDEN? >> YOU CAN SEE HE IS 6-FOOT FIVE AND ONLY. [INAUDIBLE] POUNDS. YOU SAID SIX -- FOUR. ANYWAY ANYWAY JUST TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT HE SAYS HE IS. AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT HE IS. I'LL BE HAPPY TO HAVE A CONTEST I GOT MY HANDICAP WHEN I WAS VICE PRESIDENT DOWN TO A SIX. AND BY THE WAY TOLD YOU BEFORE I'M HAPPY TO PLAY GOLF JUST CARRY YOUR OWN BAG, THINK YOU CAN DO IT? >> IS A SIX HANDICAP TOO. >> I WAS EIGHT HANDICAP COOKS I'VE SEEN THIS WHEN I KNOW YOUR SWING. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP CHRYSALIS NOT ACT LIKE CHILDREN. >> YOU ARE A CHILD. >> IT'S A CONCERN VOTERS HAVE ABOUT YOU WILL YOU PLEDGE TONIGHT THAT ONCE ALL LEGAL CHALLENGES A BIT EXHAUSTED YOU WILL ACCEPT THE RESULTS OF THIS ELECTION REGARDLESS OF WHO WINS? AND YOU WILL SAY IT RIGHT NOW POLITICAL VIOLENCE IN ANY FORM IS UNACCEPTABLE. >> I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO SAY THAT BUT OF COURSE I BELIEVE THAT. IT IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE. IF YOU WOULD SEE THE STATEMENTS I MADE ON TWITTER AT THE TIME AND ALSO THE STATEMENT I MADE IN THE ROSE GARDEN YOU WOULD SAY IS ONE OF THE STRONGEST STATEMENTS YOU HAVE EVER SEEN. IN ADDITION TO THE SPEECH I MADE IN THE LARGEST CROWD OF EVER SPOKEN TO NOBODY EVER TALKS ABOUT THAT. THEY TALK ABOUT A RELATIVELY SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WENT TO THE CAPITOL. IN MANY CASES WERE USHERED IN BY THE POLICE AND HIS NANCY PELOSI SAID IT WAS HER RESPONSIBILITY NOT MINE. SHE SAID THAT LOUD AND CLEAR. BUT THE ANSWER IS IF THE ELECTION FAIR, FREE AND I WANT THAT MORE THAN ANYBODY. AND I WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING, I WISH HE WAS A GREAT PRESIDENT BECAUSE I WOULD NOT BE HERE RIGHT NOW. I'D BE AT ONE OF MY MANY PLACES ENJOYING MYSELF I WOULD NOT BE UNDER INDICTMENT BECAUSE I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN HIS POLITICAL OPPONENTS BECAUSE HE INDICTED ME BECAUSE I WAS HIS OPPONENT. I WISH SHE WAS A GREAT PRESIDENT. I WOULD RATHER HAVE THAT, I WOULD NOT BE HERE I DON'T MIND BEING HERE WITH ONLY REASON I AM HERE IS HE SO BAD AS A PRESIDENT THAT I'M GOING TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. WE ARE GOING TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN WE ARE FAILING NATION WE ARE SERIOUSLY FAILING NATION. WE ARE A FAILING VISION BECAUSE OF HIM. HIS POLICIES ARE SO BAD. HIS MILITARY POLICIES ARE INSANE. THEY ARE INSANE. THESE ARE WARS THAT WILL NEVER END WITH HIM HE WILL DRIVE US INTO WORLD WAR III WE ARE CLOSER TO WORLD WAR III THAN ANYBODY COULD IMAGINE WE ARE VERY, VERY CLOSE TO WORLD WAR III AND HE IS DRIVING US THERE. KIM JONG UN AND A PRESIDENT XI OF CHINA, KIM JONG-UN OWN OF NORTH KOREA AND PUTIN THEY DO NOT RESPECT HIM. THEY DO NOT FEAR HIM. THEY HAVE NOTHING GOING WITH THIS GENTLEMAN IS GOING TO DRIVE US INTO WORLD WAR III. >> YOU WANT WORLD WAR III AND STATE DO WHAT YOU WANT JUST TO DO WHAT YOU WANT THIS IS ARTICLE FIVE IN THE ATTACK ON ONE AS AN ATTACK ON ALL WITH A REQUIRED RESPONSE. THE IDEA I CANNOT THINK OF A SINGLE MAJOR IN THE WORLD WHO NOT TRADE PLACES WITH THE JOB I HAVE DONE WITH WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE TO STEP UP WHEN THEY AREN'T NEEDED. THERE NEEDED TO PROTECT THE WORLD BECAUSE HER OWN SAFETY IS AT STAKE. AGAIN YOU WANT TO HAVE A WAR LET PUTIN GO AHEAD AND TAKE MAKE SURE STATEMENT WANTS TO HAVE US IN POLAND, HUNGARY AND OTHER PLACES ALONG THAT BORDER. THEN YOU HAVE A WAR. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP AS I COME BACK TO YOU FOR A FOLLOW-UP THE QUESTION WAS OR WILL YOU ACCEPT THE RESULTS OF THIS ELECTION REGARDLESS OF WHO WINS? >> JUST TO FINISH WHAT HE SAID IF I MIGHT, RUSSIA THEY TOOK A LOT OF LAND FROM BUSH. THEY TOOK A LOT OF LAND FROM OBAMA AND BIDEN. THEY TOOK NOTE LAND, NOTHING FROM TRUMP HE KNEW NOT TO OF THE NOT GOING TO PLAY GAMES WITH ME HE KNEW THAT I GOT ALONG WITH HIM VERY WELL BUT IT KNEW NOT TO PLAY GAMES HE TOOK NOTHING FOR ME. BUT NOW HE'S GOING TO TAKE THE WHOLE THING IS AWARE THAT NEVER STARTED NEVER WOULD'VE STARTED WITH ME. HE IS GOING TO TAKE UKRAINE. YOU ASKED A QUESTION BEFORE WOULD YOU DO THIS? HE HAS GOT US IN SUCH A BAD POSITION RIGHT NOW WITH UKRAINE AND RUSSIA BECAUSE UKRAINE IS NOT WINNING THAT WAR HE SAID I WILL NEVER SETTLE UNTIL SUCH TIME OR THEY ARE RUNNING OUT OF PEOPLE, THEY'RE RUNNING OUT OF SOLDIERS THEY HAVE LOST SO MANY PEOPLE IT IS SO SAD FOR THEY HAVE LOST SO MANY PEOPLE AND LOST THOSE GORGEOUS CITIES WITH THE GOLDEN DOMES ARE A THOUSAND YEARS OLD ALL BECAUSE OF HIM IN STUPID DECISIONS BUT RUSSIA WOULD'VE NEVER ATTACKED. >> THE QUESTION WAS WILL YOU ACCEPT THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION REGARDLESS OF WHO WINS YES OR NO PLEASE. >> IF IT IS A FAIR AND LEGAL AND GOOD ELECTION ABSOLUTELY. I WOULD HAVE MUCH RATHER ACCEPTED THESE BUT THE FRAUD AND EVERYTHING ELSE WAS RIDICULOUS. IF YOU WANT WILL HAVE A NEWS CONFERENCE ON AND A WEEK WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER ONE OF THESE IN A WEEK. I WILL ABSOLUTELY PRINT THERE'S NOTHING I WOULD RATHER DO. BE MUCH EASIER FOR ME TOO DO THAT THEN RUNNING AGAIN. I WAS NOT GOING TO RUN UNTIL HESAW THE HORRIBLE JOB YOU DID. HE IS DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY. I WILL BE VERY HAPPY TO BE SOMEPLACE ELSE AND A NICE LOCATION SOMEPLACE. AND AGAIN NO INDICTMENTS, NOTE POLITICAL OPPONENTS UP IT'S THE ONLY WAY HE THANKS HE CAN WIN. BUT UNFORTUNATES DRIVEN UP MY NUMBERS AND DRIVEN THEM UP TO VERY HIGH LEVEL BECAUSE THE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT. >> LET'S SEE WHAT YOUR NUMBERS ARE WHEN THIS ELECTION IS OVER. LET'S SEE YOU ARE A WHINER WHEN HE LOST THE FIRST TIME YOU CONTINUE YOUR APPEAL IN YOUR APPEAL TO COURTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. NOT ONE SINGLE COURT IN AMERICA SIT ANY OF YOUR CLAIMS THAT ANY MERIT STATE OR LOCAL, NONE. YOU CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THIS LIE IS THIS MS. REPRESENTATION FOR ALL THE CEILING THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF THAT AT ALL. AND I WILL TELL YOU WHAT I DOUBT YOU WILL ACCEPT IT BECAUSE YOU ARE SUCH A WHINER. THE IDEA IF YOU LOSE AGAIN YOU CAN'T STAND LOST. SOMETHING SNAPPED IN YOU AND YOU LOST THE LAST TIME. BUCKS WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE FROM THAT CNN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE LIVE FROM GEORGIA. ONCE AGAIN AWAITING FOR THE CNN PRESIDENTIAL BABY TIM PRESIDENT BIDEN FORR PRESIDENT TRUMP TO RESUME A REMINDER WILL GET YOUR REACTION TO WHAT YOU'VE SEEN AND HEARD TONIGHT AS SOON AS THE DEBATE IS OVER. LIVE A SIMULCAST CONTINUES FROM ATLANTA AND JUST A MOMENT. >> IT IS NOW TIME FOR THE CANDIDATES TO DELIVER THEIR CLOSING STATEMENTS AS PREDETERMINED BY A COIN TOSS. WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN WITH YOU PRESIDENT BIDEN YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. >> WE HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS FROM THE DEBACLE THAT WAS LEFT BY PRESIDENT TRUMP IN HIS LAST TERM. WE FIND OURSELVES IN A SITUATION WHERE NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A FAIR TAX SYSTEM I ASKED ANYONE OUT THERE IN THE AUDIENCE, ANYONE OUT WATCHING THIS DEBATE YOU THINK THE TAX SYSTEM IS FAIR? THE FACT IS AS I SAID NO ONE WORKING UNDER $40000 HAS A SINGLE PENNY INCREASE IN THEIR TAXES AND IF I AM A REELECTED THEY'LL BE THE CASE AGAIN. BUT, THIS GUY HAS INCREASED YOUR TAXES BECAUSE OF THE DEFICIT NUMBER WHEN HE'S INCREASE INFLATION BECAUSE OF THE DEBACLE HE LEFT WHEN HE HANDLED THE PANDEMIC AND HE FINDS HIMSELF IN THE POSITION HE WAS A TAX YOU MORE BY PUTTING A 10% TARIFF ON ANYTHING THAT COMES INTO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WHAT I DID FOR EXAMPLE HE WANTS TO GET RID OF THE ABILITY OF MEDICARE FOR THE ABILITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE DRUG PRICES WITH BIG PHARMA COMPANIES. GUESS WHAT. WE HAVE GOT IT DOWN TO $35 PER INSULIN INSTEAD OF $400. NO MORE THAN $2000 FOR EVERY SENIOR NO MATTER HOW MUCH PRESCRIPTION THEY NEED PUTIN WITH THAT DID? THAT REDUCE THE DEBT MIGHT $160 BILLION OVER 10 YEARS BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT TRIED NOT TO PAY THE EXORBITANT PRICES. IN GOING TO MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO EVERY SENIOR, ALTHOUGH IT'S HAPPENING NOW. AND EVERYONE IN AMERICA. HE WANTS TO GET RID OF THAT. PARENT GOING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE CHILD CARE. THEY'RE GOING TO SEE AN INCREASE IN CREDITS PEOPLE HAVE FOR CHILD CARE. WERE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING ON LEAD PIPES AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE CAUSING HEALTH PROBLEMS FOR PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT TO BRING DOWN INFLATION AND GIVE PEOPLE A BREAK. >> THINK YOU PRESIDENT BIDEN FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES YOUR CLOSING STATEMENT PIC LOOKS LIKE SO MANY POLITICIANS THIS MAN IS JUST A COMPLAINER. HE SAID WE WANT TO DO THIS, WE WANT TO DO THAT, ONCE HE RID OF THIS TAX IN THAT TAX. BUT HE DOES NOT DO ANYTHING. ALL HE DOES IS MAKE OUR COUNTRY UNSAFE BY ALLOWING MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO POUR IN. OUR MILITARY DOES NOT RESPECT HIM AND LOOK LIKE FOOLS IN AFGHANISTAN. WE DID NOT STOP ISRAEL IT WAS A HORRIBLE THING THAT WOULD'VE NEVER HAPPENED IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED. IRAN WAS BROKE. ANYONE THAT DID BUSINESS WITH IRAN INCLUDING CHINA THEY COULD NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THE UNITED STATES THEY ALL PASSED IRAN IT WAS BROKE THEY HAD NO MONEY FOR HAMAS OR HEZBOLLAH NO MONEY WHATSOEVER. AGAIN IT UKRAINE SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED HE TALKS ABOUT ALL THE STUFF HE DID NOT DO IT FOR THREE AND HALF YEARS WE ARE LIVING. WE HAVE THE PALESTINIANS WE HAVE EVERYBODY ELSE WRITING ALL OVER THE PLACE PRETTY TALK ABOUT CHARLOTTESVILLE IS 100 TIMES CHARLES THE 1000 TIMES THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS EXPLODING BECAUSE OF YOU BECAUSE THEY DO NOT RESPECT YOU AND THEY HAVE TO RESPECT THEIR PRESIDENT THEY DO NOT RESPECT YOU THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. WHAT WE DID WAS INCREDIBLE WE REBUILT THE MILITARY WITHOUT THE LARGEST TAX CUT IN HISTORY THAT LARGEST REGULATION CUT IN HISTORY. THE REASON HE HAS GOT JOBS IS BECAUSE I CUT THE REGULATIONS AND GAVE JOBS. HE IS PUTTING A LOT OF THOSE REGULATIONS BACK ON. ALL OF THE THINGS WE HAVE DONE WE'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT IN FOR THAT MEDICAL STANDPOINT RIGHT TO TRY IT WE CAN TRY SPACE AGE MATERIALS INSTEAD OF GOING TO ASIA ARE GOING TO EUROPE AND TRYING TO GET WHEN YOU'RE TERMINALLY ILL YOU CAN GO AND GET SOMETHING FOR YOU TO SIGN A DOCUMENT THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET IT FOR 42 YEARS. YOU KNOW WHAT WE DID FOR THAT MILITARY WAS INCREDIBLE CHOICE FOR OUR SOLDIERS. INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR THREE MONTHS TO SEE A DOCTOR THEY CAN GO OUT AND GET THEMSELVES AFFIXED UP AND READY IT UP AND TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES. THEY ARE LIVING HIGHEST APPROVAL RATING IN THE HISTORY OF THE VA. ALL OF THESE THINGS WE ARE IN A FAILING NATION IS NOT WOULD BE FAILING ANYMORE GOING TO MAKE IT GREAT AGAIN. >> , PRESIDENT BIDEN. STAY WITH US BECAUSE WE HAVE FULL ANALYSIS OF THIS DEBATE. IT STARTS NOW ON CNN. THAT IS EIGHT WRAP THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE OF THE 2024 ELECTION CYCLE IS IN THE BOOKS. PRESIDENT BIDEN FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP ADDRESSING SEVERAL ISSUES TONIGHT WITH MODERATORS JAKE TAPPER AND DANA BASH THE ECONOMY, IMMIGRATION, FOREIGN POLICY AND ABORTION AMONG OTHERS. C-SPAN COVERAGE CONTINUES TONIGHT OF THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. A LOOK AND NOW INSIDE THE SPIN ROOM LIVE COVERAGE WHERE THE START TALKING TO REPORTERS TO GIVE THEIR ANALYSIS OF THE EVENING C-SPAN CAMERAS ARE OF COURSE THERE ON THE GROUND. WE WILL BE BRINGING HIGHLIGHTS FOR THE NEXT HOUR OR SO. WE WILL ALSO TAKE YOUR CALLS UNTIL MIDNIGHT TONIGHT BUT AT THAT POINT WE WILL RE- AIR AT RC TONIGHT'S DEBATE IN ITS ENTIRETY. WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU FIRST. WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO TONIGHT DEBATE? WHAT DID THE CANDIDATES SAY THAT RESIGNATION WITH YOU? WHAT DID YOU WANT TO HEAR THAT YOU DIDN'T HEAR? WE DIVIDED THE LINES THIS WAY IF YOU ARE SUPPORTING PRESIDENT BIDEN: 2027488920 PER IF YOU SUPPORT THE FORMER PRESIDENT YOUR LINE TONIGHT (202)748-8921. IF YOU ARE UNDECIDED, STILL UNDECIDED AFTER TONIGHT'S DEBATE: 2027488922. AND IF YOU HAVE DECIDED TO SUPPORT A THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE YOU CAN CALL US 2027488923. REMEMBER YOU CAN JOIN THE CONVERSATION ON X WITH THE HANDLE AT C-SPAN ALSO ON FACEBOOK.COM/CSPAN PORT YOU CAN TEXT US YOUR FIRST NAME CITY AND STATE 202-748-8903. CALLS ARE IN SUPPORTING THE FORMER PRESIDENT. YOU ARE UP FIRST. WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO TONIGHT'S DEBATE? ANGIE? YOU ARE UP. GOOD EVENING. >> Caller: SORRY DRIVING TO SAY. STEVE WENT PETER IN NEW YORK UNDECIDED YOUR REACTION TO TONIGHT'S DEBATE? SUSIE WELL, I THOUGHT THE FORMAT FOR TONIGHT'S DEBATE WAS EXCELLENT. I THOUGHT THE MODERATORS DID A GREAT JOB. AND. >> Host: YOU SAID THE PERFORMANCE I WAS EXCELLENT BY THE CANDIDATES QUESTION REQUEST OR SO WITHOUT THE MODERATORS DID WELL. I THOUGHT THEY DID REAL WELL. >> DID YOU LIKE THE FORMAT, PETER? >> YES ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY A GREAT FORMAT. JAKE TAPPER AND DANA BASH WERE TREMENDOUS. NOW CANDIDATES, HOLY MACKEREL. THEY ARE NOT EXACTLY LINCOLN AND DOUGLAS. I WAS UNDECIDED AND NOW I AM EVEN MORE SO. ACTUALLY ALL THEY DID ATTACK EACH OTHER. AND THEY DID NOT SEEM VERY PRESIDENTIAL. >> EITHERNE OF THEM. >> Caller: THEY WERE LIKE TWO GUYS ON THE CORNER. >> Host: PETER, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THESE CANDIDATES THAT ORDER TO DECIDE? >> Caller: HAD LIKED IT TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES MORE ABOUT THEIR OWN IDEAS RATHER THAN TO ATTACK THE OTHERS IDEAS. AND I WOULD LIKE THEM TO SHOW A LITTLE MORE DECORUM. RIGHT NOW I FEEL LIKE HIDING UNDER THE BED. >> Host: PETER UNDECIDED IN NEW YORKAREN AND SOUTH CAROLINA SUPPORTING THE FORMER PRESIDENT. HOW DID YOUR CANDIDATE DO? RICK: HI I THINK HE DID QUITE WELL. HE KEPT HIS DEMEANOR COOL, CALM, AND COLLECTED. TO ME HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN PUT AMERICA TO BE GREAT AGAIN. HE HAS THE RELATIONSHIP WITH OTHER PRESIDENTS THROUGHOUT OTHER COUNTRIES WHERE BIDEN DOES NOT. AND HE WAS RIGHT. ALL BIDEN DOES IS KEEP PRINTING OFF MONEY AND MORE MONEY AND MORE MONEY, LETTING IN PEOPLE FROM THE BORDER. GIVE THE AMERICANS THE JOB. WE NEED IT. OUR CHILDREN NEED IT. OUR GRANDCHILDREN NEED IT. SO THAT IS MY OPINION. >> Host: KAREN, WHAT DID YOU LIKE ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP'S FIRST FOUR YEARS? WHAT DID YOU LIKE ABOUT HIS RECORD? >> Caller: HE KEPT HIS WORD. MORE PRODUCTS ARE BEING MADE IN THE USA. GAS WAS BEING UTILIZED FROM THE USA. IT WAS JUST HIS WAY OF HANDLING THE USA. STU WENT ALL RIGHT KAREN AND SOUTH CREDIT WOULD TO A BIDEN SUPPORTER HOW DID YOUR CANDIDATE DO TONIGHT? >> Caller: HI, HE DID WONDERFUL. JOE IS GETTING OLDER. BUT WITH THE BEHAVIOR WE GET OUT OF TRUMP AND THE WAY HE TREATS WOMEN AND THE RIGHTS HE HAS TAKEN AWAY FROM US IT SAYS A LOT. IT SAYS A LOT. I WISH MORE PEOPLE WOULD PAY ATTENTION TO THAT. INSTEAD OF SOME OF THESE TRUMP SUPPORTERS THAT I SEE ARE JUST LOUD MOUTH RIGHT CLOTHES DIAPER WEARING TRUMP SUPPORTERS. >> YOU SAID HE IS GETTING OLDER. DID HE SHOW HIS AGE TONIGHT? >> YOU KNOW WHAT, HE DID A LITTLE BIT AND HE LOOKS A LITTLE TIRED. BUT IT IS AWFUL LATE. YOU KNOW? HE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO GETS TIRED EARLY. SUE AND KELLY O'DONNELL REPORTS FOR NBC AT THE WHITE HOUSE TWEETING OUT AT 9:50 P.M. AND TOSOURCE HIS FAMILY WITH THE SITUATION SAY PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS A COLD. SHE ALSO TWEETS OUT AT 958 MULTIPLE SOURCES SAY THE PRESIDENT WAS GIVEN COVID TEST AND IS NEGATIVE FOR COVID. LET'S GO INSIDE THE SPIN ROOM IN ATLANTA A LEADER AND THE PUBLIC OF THE HOUSE BUT ONE OF THE LEADERS TALKING TO REPORTERS. [BACKGROUND NOISES] [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] WITH THE AGE PROBLEM? >> I THINK IT WAS A WEAK PERFORMANCE. YOU DO NOT GET POINTS FOR STANDING UP AND TALKING FOR 90 MINUTES. YOU HAVE TO DEFEND HIS OR HER RECORD WHICH IS ABSENTLY FAILED TO DO. THE FACT WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION 10, 15, 20 ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS HAVE COME ACROSS BUT WE TALKED ABOUT THE UNSETTLED DEATHS WHICH ARE COMING ALONG WITH THEM. WE TALK ABOUT THE STRENGTH ON THE AMERICAN POSITION AROUND THE WORLD. ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS ABLE TO CLEARLY ARTICULATE WHERE AMERICA NEEDS TO GO PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS NOT ABLE TO DO THAT. >> IN THESE DEBATES. [INAUDIBLE] WAS AT STRATEGIC? >> WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WITH THE PRESIDENT WANTED TO DO WAS TO BE ABLE TO COME OUT AND TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES AFFECTING AMERICAN PEOPLE. HE WAS ABLE TO CLEARLY ARTICULATE THOSE ISSUES AND WAS ABLE TO CLEARLY TALK ABOUT THESE SOLUTIONS IS GOING TO PUT ON THE TABLE. ABSOLUTELY PRINT THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE TWO MEN ON STAGE AT THE SAME TIME AND TALK ABOUT THEIR VISION FOR THE WORLD. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE BUT HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE HE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THOSE POINTS OUT IN AN ARTICULATE WHY HE DID A FANTASTIC JOB WITH A PIG LOOKS THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. YOU THINK VITAL BE THE NOMINEE? >> WE WILL SEE CERTAIN IF THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO REMOVE HER FROM THE TICKET THEY ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME EVERY SINGLE DAY. >> HOW DOES THIS TRANSLATE INTO THE NEXT FEW WEEKS? WHAT IS THE PLAN? >> IT'S A GREAT LAUNCHING POINT. HE WAS ABLE TO ARTICULATE HIS VISION FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. WHICH IS TREMENDOUSLY IMPORTANT. AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT'S NOT JUST A PLAN FOR AMERICA FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. WE ARE GOING TO SET THE DIRECTION THE WORLD IS GOING TO GO IN FOR DECADES TO COME. THIS IS GOING TO BE A TRANSFORMATIVE ELECTION BECAUSE WE ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW A PRESIDENCY DEFINED BY WEAKNESS AND WE ARE GOING TO TRANSITION BACK TO PRESIDENT TRUMP AND A PRESIDENCY DIVIDED BY STRENGTH. >> DO YOU EXPECT THAT. [INAUDIBLE] >> THE CHAIR OF THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE TALKING TO REPORTERS LIVE IN THE SPIN ROOM. C-SPAN CAMERAS ARE THERE ON THE GROUND. WE HAVE NOT SEEN AT DEMOCRATS YET AND THE SPIN ROOM WE ARE EXPECTING TO SEE SOME FROM THE BITING CAMP. WHEN WE DO WILL BRING YOU BACK INSIDE THE SPIN ROOM. WE ARE ALSO TAKING YOUR PHONE CALLS YOUR TEXT, YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA REACTION TO TONIGHT'S FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES. PAUL IN MIAMI, UNDECIDED, PAUL. WHAT YOU THINK OF TONIGHT? >> Caller: I LIKE THE FORMAT HE DID NOT HAVE A CAT CALLING AND PEOPLE SCREAMING AND JUST DELAYING IT. NEITHER OF THESE PEOPLE ARE COGNITIVELY KILLING IT AND WHAT A CHOICE BINARY TO PARTIES. AGAIN NOT TRYING TO BE SARCASTIC ABOUT IT. BIDEN IS A DECENT PERSON. HE LOOKED AGED AND TRUMP IS I DON'T KNOW, IDEOLOGY DOES NOT STAND FOR ANYTHING FOR JUST DANCE FOR WINNING. AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT MOVED ANYTHING. >> SO FOR YOU, HOW WILL YOU DECIDE THEN? >> I'M GOING TO DECIDE THIS WAY. IT'S LIKE I AM UNDECIDED UP UNTIL THE MINUTE I GO IN. THAT'S KIND OF RIDICULOUS. I AM KIND OF LEANING BASICALLY JUST THIRD PARTY. I'M A LITTLE SCARED TRUMP IN THE SENSE I DON'T THINK HE IS A RACIST BUT I DON'T THINK HE IS A FASCIST BY JUMPING HE'S THE WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD BUT I DO THINK HE IS IN FOUR YEARS NOT FEARFUL OF ANYTHING AND WOULD DO ANYTHING THAT HE WANTS TO DO WITH NO THREATS OF DOING ANYTHING. THAT IS CONCERNING TO ME. BUT WERE STILL WAITING. HERE WE ARE. >> LOOK AT THE FORMER PRESIDENT DO TO CONVINCE YOU TO VOTE FOR HIM? >> Caller: BITING GET SICK? NO I AM NOT A BIDEN SUPPORTER. I JUST REALLY -- IT IS SAD TOO. >> FOR YOU IT'S THIRD PARTY OR THE FORMER PRESIDENT. ORT LEANING A LITTLE BIT TOWARDS BIDEN. IT'S A REALLY GOOD STAFF LET ME RUN THIS BY YOU. CASEY ON CNN REPORTER TWEETS OUT THE VOICE OPEN MOUTH LOOK, VISUAL CONTRAST BETWEEN PRESIDENT BIDEN FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP HAVE ALL DEMOCRATS I AM TALKING TO NEARLY BESIDE THEMSELVES WATCHING THIS DEBATES. THE PROMINENT DEMOCRAT IS TEXTING, SAYING GAVIN PLEASE, REFERRING TO THE CALIFORNIA GOVERNOR. PAUL? [LAUGHTER] >> Caller: YES, THIS IS DIFFICULT. WHAT A CHOICE WE HAVE. IT IS NOT NICE. THESE ARE NOT TREMENDOUSLY TALENTED CANDIDATES. AND I THINK AT THIS POINT MOST PEOPLE HAVE MADE THEIR MIND UNLESS -- A MEMBER THE OLD GOVERNOR EDWIN EDWARDS OF LOUISIANA AFTER HE SAID THEY'RE GOING TO VOTING FOR ME UNLESS THEY FIND I AM FED WITH A DEAD WOMAN OR A LIVE CHILD. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT'S COME TO HAVE BAD CHOICES IT'S GOING TO BE LAST SECOND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MAKE IT. STUPID PAUL SO THEY HOLD THE SECOND DEBATE BETWEEN THESE TWO CANDIDATES? >> Caller: OF COURSE THEY SHOULD. OF COURSE THEY SHOULD, ABSOLUTELY. >> Host: SAME RULE SAME FORMAT? >> Caller: I LIKE IT. AND I GET IT FOR THE HOSTS OR THE MODERATORS DANA AND JAKE HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME FOR YOU GOT TO PUSH THESE PEOPLE I'VE WORKED WITH MEDIATE YEARS AND YEARS AGO HE'D LIKE TO PUSH PEOPLE AND CUT THEM OFF AND STOP. I THINK OF FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THAT APPRECIATE THAT. >> Host: WILL GO BACK TO THE SPIN ROOM SENATOR TIM SCOTT TALKING TO REPORTERS. >> TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANT FOR THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE IMPOVERISHED COMMUNITY CENTER DONALD TRUMP THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN INTO LAW. $70 BILLION COMMITTED OFTEN TIMES THE MAJORITY AND MINORITY. IN THOSE COMMUNITIES ABOUT 8% WAGE GROWTH VERSUS 3% 20% APPRECIATION IN YOUR PROPERTY VALUES AND THAT RESTORATION OF BOTH. IT WAS A REALLY GOOD FOR YEARS FOR PEOPLE GROUP LIKE I DID. TALK ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR IN THAT LIFETIME. HAS GOOD TO HAVE YOUR BAD NAME CALLED IF IT'S IN A BAD WAY. IT'S NOT ABOUT ME. IT'S ABOUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE SURE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EXPERIENCE THEIR VERSION OF THE AMERICAN DREAM. THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD ALL BE FOCUSED ON. >> ·-MIDDLE-DOT TIM SCOTT OF SOUTH CAROLINA ALSO RAN FOR PRESIDENT THIS YEAR. RUMORED TO BE A POSSIBLE PICK FOR VICE PRESIDENT FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP. WE ARE GETTING YOUR REACTION AND NEW YORK SUPPORTING PRESIDENT BIDEN, CHASE HOW DOES YOUR GUY DO? >> I HONESTLY THINK HE IS GETTING PRETTY OLD. THEY ASK A FEW QUESTIONS THE FIRST FEW MINUTES HE GOT QUIET AND HE STUMBLED A LITTLE BIT. OTHER THAN THAT HE PUT UP A GOOD FIGHT. THESE ARE PRETTY GOOD DEBATERS THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD POINTS WHICH WITH EACH OF THEM PERSONALLY IN A WRESTLING MATCH OR SOMETHING. I'M PRETTY GLAD NOTHING CRAZY HAPPENS. PEOPLE YELLING BUT THEY PUT UP A PRETTY GOOD MATCH I AM SCARED FOR OUR COUNTRY AND EVERYTHING GOING ON IN IT. NOBODY IS TAKING ANYTHING SERIOUSLY. WE NEED A REAL AWAKENING. EVERYTHING IS DIVIDING THE WHOLE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. EVERYBODY'S GOT A COME BACK TOGETHER AS ONE, YOU KNOW. THAT IS PERSONALLY WHAT I THINK IT'S REALLY SCARY AS PAWNS ON THE CHESSBOARD. ALL THESE PEOPLE BEHIND THEM. THAT IS ALL IT IS. STU WENT CURTIS IN SAN ANTONIO, WHO ARE YOU SUPPORTING? >> Caller: I'M GOING FOR THE THIRD PARTY. I LOVE PRESIDENT BIDEN'S HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE. THAT HE IS A LITTLE AGE. LIKE EVERYONE BEFORE ME WAS SAYING. THEY SAT DOWN AND DONALD TRUMP I JUST DON'T TRUST HIM. STEWART ARE YOU SAYING THE PRESIDENT SHOULD STEP DOWN NOW? >> Caller: NO YES I DON'T THINK HE SHOULD RUN FOR. >> DON'T THINK HE SHOULD BE RUNNING NOW FOR MONTH OUT FROM THE ELECTION? >> NO I DON'T. I DON'T. NOT BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD PRESIDENT HE AGE AND HIS TIME IS UP. >> IN THE SPIN ROOM GEORGE AT SENATOR WARNOCK TALKING ABOUT REPORTERS, LET'S LISTEN IN. >> ONE SECOND PERIOD WITH MEMBERS ARE FULLY REPRESENTED THE RICH DIVERSITY BIDEN HAS. TONIGHT I THINK WHAT YOU SAW WHICH IS VERY CLEAR CHOICE IN THIS ELECTION. WHEN I SAW OUT OF DONALD TRUMP WAS A MAN WHO TOOK THE STAGE WHO INCREASINGLY UNHINGED THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT AND IT REMINDED THE AMERICAN BID BY THE END OF THE DEBATE EXACTLY WHY THEY ADMIRED HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE FOUR YEARS AGO. PRESIDENT BIDEN TAKE THE STAGE DID EXACTLY WHAT HE DID OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FOUR YEARS. ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. HE MADE THE CASE FOR HIS ACCOMPLISHMENT 15 MILLION JOBS THE WORK HE HAS DONE THE DAY HE TOOK OFFICE TO LOWER COST FOR AMERICANS AND LOWER THE COST OF INS UNDER $35. THEY HAVE CAP PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OUT OF POCKET FOR SENIORS THEY CONTINUE TO DO IT IN A SECOND TERM DONALD TRUMP SAW SOMEBODY REPEATEDLY REFUSED TO ACCEPT THE BULK OF THE ELECTION. ONCE AGAIN THE SAME WAY THEY DID SO IN 2020. HE SAW HOW THAT PLAYED OUT MOST OF MY ONLY ON JANUARY 6 HE'S ALL THAT PROMISING TO DO THAT AGAIN. HE IS ALREADY SPENT HIS MONTH OUT ON THE STUMP IS GOING TO BE A BLOODBATH OF HE LOSES TO THE ELECTION. THE FIVE TIMES OF THAT PLEDGE TONIGHT WAS SOME TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT ROE V WADE HE RETURNED TO ROE V WADE WAS A GREAT THING. ONCE AGAIN HE SAT ON THE STUMP EVERY DAY TALKING ABOUT THE FACT HIS EXTREME STATE-LEVEL ABORTION BANDS ARE PLAYING OUT. THAT'S A FUNDAMENTAL CONTRAST OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SAW IN THIS DEBATE. WITH THAT I'M GOING TO TURN OVER. [INAUDIBLE] >> HELLO EVERYONE. I REPRESENT TEXAS. WE KNOW ABORTION IS ON THE BALLOT. AND TO BE CLEAR, TONIGHT WE SAW TWO THINGS. PEOPLE CAN CHOOSE BETWEEN A CON IN CHIEF OR COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF. WHAT WE SAW WAS SOMEONE WHO SAT UP THERE WAS ACTING AS IF HE WAS A USED CAR SALESMAN THAT WANTED TO TELL US WHAT EVER AND PRETEND AS IF IT WAS FACT. THE REALITY IS OUR PRESIDENT SUBMITTED TO YOUOULD LOOK LIKE SUBSTANCE FOR THE SUBSTANCE OF THE ISSUE IS SIMPLE. WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS BRAGGING ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE TOOK A ROE V WADE AWAY FROM US. WHERE AS WE KNOW THE NEXT STEP THEY WANT TO GO AFTER CONTRACEPTION AND UNFORTUNATELY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT INSTITUTING THE DEATH PENALTY. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE TO DECIDE IF THEY'RE GOING TO CHOOSE THEMSELVES THIS ELECTION IS NOT ABOUT ALL OF THE LIES THAT TRUMP IS SELLING YOU PUT IT WHAT I IS ABOUT IS THE FACT. THE FACTS ARE HE TOOK THAT RIGHT AWAY FROM US AND HE WANTS TO TAKE MORE RIGHTS AWAY FROM US BUT HE DID THAT EVERY TIME HE DID NOT WANT TO ANSWER A QUESTION HE DECIDED TO DEFLECT. THE REALITY IS PEOPLE ARE DYING HE HAD OVER 26000 WOMEN IMPREGNATED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS ALONE IN THAT LAST YEAR SINCE THE DOBBS DECISION. AS A RESULT OF RAPE. THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE FOR YOU ALL KNOW THE STORY OF DOCTOR EVEN OF THE STORY OF WOMEN WHO ARE PONTIALLY LOSING THEIR LIVES FOR THERE IS ONLY ONE CLEAR CHOICE AND THAT CLEAR CHOICE IS JOE BIDEN. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE HERE. [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] >> ELECTIONS ARE ABOUT THE CHARACTER. THEY ARE ABOUT JOBS ABOUT THE ECONOMY THERE ABOUT WAR AND PEACE AND A WHOLE RANGE OF ISSUES AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE GOT A CHANCE TONIGHT TO BE REMINDED ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF DONALD TRUMP. A MAN WHO STOOD THERE AND LIED FOR 90 MINUTES STRAIGHT. I WAS ALSO STRUCK BY WAS WHAT HE DID NOT SAY EVERY TIME HE WAS ASKED A QUESTION THAT HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE LIVES OF THE ORDINARY WORKING CLASS AND JUTE NOTICE HE NEVER ANSWER THE QUESTIONS WHEN HE WAS ASKED ABOUT CHILDCARE, WHICH IS A REAL ISSUE IN THIS COUNTRY. PATCHING AN ARMY OF SURROGATES INTO A SEA OF REPORTERS IS THE WAY THEY FRAMED IT, THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN PLANNED TO SEND IN THAT TEAM THAT YOU SAW ON THEIR SCREEN DELIVER SUCCINCT STATEMENTS AND TAKE QUESTIONS AND THEN LEAVE THE SPIN ROOM. NOW OTHERS IN SUPPORT OF PRESIDENT BIDEN ARE EXPECTED TO BE IN THE SPIN ROOM AND THAT IS THE STRATEGY FROM THE CAMPAIGN TONIGHT. WE HAVE SEEN SEVERAL REPUBLICANS TALKING TO REPORTERS AND WE WILL HEAR MORE FROM TONIGHT WHILE WE ALSO TALKED TO ALL OF YOU THOSE THAT SUPPORT THE FORMER PRESIDENT UNDECIDED AND THIRD PARTY CANDIDATES. JIM, IN WHITEWRIGHT TEXAS. >> YOU'RE SUPPORTING THE FORMER PRESIDENT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> WHAT DID YOU THINK OF THE DEBATE? >> I THOUGHT HE WAS VERY COMPOSED. I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYONE CAN LOOK AT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND SAY THAT THERE'S NOTHING WITH THAT PERSON, CLEARLY IT'S ELDER ABUSE, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT HIS WIFE AND HIS HANDLERS ARE PUTTING HIM THROUGH THIS. HE LOOKED LOST MOST OF THE DEBATE. HE REALLY DIDN'T ANSWER A QUESTION. HE JUST KEPT REPEATING HIS TALKING NINETIES SHE WAS GIVEN OVER THE PAST TWO WEEKS AT CAMP DAVID. >> JIM, HAVE YOU SUPPORTED THE FORMER PRESIDENT IN 2016 AND 2020? >> I DID. THE ECONOMY IS IN CHATTERS RIGHT NOW. THE MIDDLE CLASS IS DYING. THE STAT THAT THE MODERATORS GAVE A BASKET OF GROCERIES THAT WAS $100 AT THE BEGINNING OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS NOW $120, IT'S ABOUT $150. I ALSO THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT THE MODERATORS WOULD CUT BIDEN OFF WHEN HE WAS GETTING READY TO GO OVER A CLIFF AND THIS HIS MIC WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SILENCED WHEN IT WASN'T HIS TURN BUT, INDEED, IT WASN'T. >> YOU -- YOU BELIEVE THAT HAPPENED MANY TIMES? >> SEVERAL TIMES. I'M ALSO CURIOUS WHICH PARTY DEMANDED THAT NO PRESS WAS IN THE ROOM AND NO AUDIENCE WHICH WAS ALSO UNPRECEDENTED. ALSO THE DEMOCRATS ARE PUTTING OUT SPEAK TOASTER ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS AND RUN AWAY FROM THE SPIN ROOM. WHY IS THAT? >> JIM, LET ME ASK YOU, YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN OPEN TO THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATE IF ONE WAS VIABLE, WHY? >> DO YOU CONCERNS ABOUT THE FORMER PRESIDENT? >> I WOULD HAVE LOOKED AT THIRD NEATER 2016 BUT I'M OKAY WITH THE ECONOMY RUNNING ON ALL FULL CYLINDERS AND FORMER 20-YEAR MILITARY MAN AND OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT HE PUT OUT MEAN TWEETS I REALLY HAVE NO ISSUES. ALL THE LIES AND STUFF ABOUT ABOUT HIM BEING RACIST AND JANUARY 6TH AND CHARLOTTESVILLE, WE ALL KNOW, OWE ALL KNOW THAT'S MADE UP. ALL YOU TO DO IS LISTEN TO THE TRANSCRIPTS BUT MOST OF BIDEN SUPPORTERS JUST LISTEN TO WHAT YOU AND OTHER MAINSTREAM MEDIA TELL THEM. BUT, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYONE CAN LOOK AT HIM AND TELL ME THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH BIDEN. >> ALL RIGHT. >> HE IS FIT TO BE THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF AND THE LEADER TO HAVE FREE WORLD. >> JIM'S THOUGHTS IN WHITEWRIGHT, TEXAS, JIM ASKING WHY REPORTERS WERE NOT ALLOWED IN THE STUDIO. THERE WAS SOME PRESSURE EARLIER THIS EVENING COMING FROM THE WHITE HOUSE ASSOCIATION, THE WHITE HOUSE REPORTERS ASSOCIATION AT THE WHITE HOUSE ASKING FOR THE POOL REPORTER THAT FOLLOWS THE PRESIDENT AROUND TO BE ALLOWED INTO THE STUDIO. KELLY O'DONNELL WHO REPRESENTS THE REPORTERS AT THE WHITE HOUSE ASSOCIATION AND WENT INTO STUDIO DURING COMMERCIAL. THE WHITE HOUSE ASSOCTION ADVOCATED FOR REPORTER FOR THE DURATION OF TONIGHT'S DEBATE. HERE IS A QUOTE, POTUS AND FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP STANDING, THIS WAS THE POOL REPORTER'S REPORT DURING THE -- DURING THE BREAK 3 AND A HALF -- 3 AND A HALF MINUTE COMMERCIAL BREAK THAT OCCURRED TONIGHT. THERE WERE TWO COMMERCIAL BREAKS THIS EVENING. SO SOUNDS LIKE A POOL REPORTER WAS LET IN DURING A BREAK. LET'S HEAR FROM YOU. >> YES, GOOD EVENING. >> WELL, STILL UNDECIDED. QUITE FRANKLY, I'M A NATURALIZED U.S. ACCIDENT, PROUDLY U.S. ACCIDENT AND I FEEL LIKE AFTER THIS DEBATE THAT WE CONTINUE TO BE -- OR I CONTINUE TO BE STUCK BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE WHEN IT COMES MY DECISION OF WHO SHALL I VOTE FOR. I BELIEVE THAT THE CONVERSATION -- WELL, DEFINITELY PRESIDENT BIDEN IS IN MY OPINION IS NOT A VIABLE CANDIDATE BY ALL MEANS REGARDLESS OF WHAT ANYBODY SAY. YOU CANNOT IGNORE THE OBVIOUS. I WISH THE DEMOCRATS HAD PRESENTED A DIFFERENT CANDIDATE THAN PRESIDENT BIDEN THAT IS FACT AND HARD TO IGNORE. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS EXCELLENT ECONOMIC TRACK RECORD THAT'S BACKING HIM UP SIGNIFICANTLY AND THE OTHER HAND I STILL BELIEVE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP CONTINUES TO BE A THREAT TO THE DEMOCRACY AND THE GREATNESS OF THIS NATION BECAUSE HIS -- HE WAS UNABLE TO CLEARLY ANSWER THE QUESTION IF YOU WOULD ACCEPT THE RESULT OF THE ELECTION. TO ME THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, NOT A GOOD INDICATION BECAUSE HE REPEATEDLY SAID THAT IT'S FAIR OR I CANNOT REMEMBER THE EXACT CODE. I CANNOT QUOTE HIM BUT HE REPEATEDLY STATED THAT IT'S FAIR AND HEAR AND, I MEAN, THAT'S BY HIS STANDARDS BUT BY THE -- HE WOULDN'T PROBABLY ACKNOWLEDGE A FAIR ELECTION IF IT DOESN'T GO ALONG WITH WHAT HE WOULD EXPECT OR LIKE TO SEE. AS I SAID IT'S A HARD DECISION TO MAKE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT BOTH OF THEM. PRESIDENT BIDEN INHERITED A VERY GOOD ECONOMIC I WOULD SAY MOMENTUM WHEN HE CAME INTO OFFICE SO HE'S TAKING CREDIT FOR WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS ESTABLISHED. >> ALL RIGHT, CALLER, I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT. I WANT TO GO INTO THE SPIN ROOM. JASON MILLER, TRUMP SURROGATE SPEAKING TO REPORTERS THERE. LISTEN. >> WITHOUT GETTING STABBED OR MURDERED, ALL THE HEINOUS CRIME MIGRANT CRIME. >> AGAIN, PUT THAT ASIDE, PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL DELIVER HIS VISION, WE KNEW THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP WOULD WIN. WE'VE BEEN SAYING THAT ALL ALONG. WE WANT TO GET FAIR SHAKE FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP TO LAY OUT HIS VISION. HOW MANY TIMES WITH THAT LOOK ON HIS FACE AND PRESIDENT TRUMP CHALLENGING WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO FIX IT? BIDEN COULDN'T ANSWER A SINGLE TIME. NEVER ONCE. THANK YOU. AGAIN, OTHER PEOPLE CAN GO AND TALK ABOUT THAT. WE JUST KNEW THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS ABLE TO COMMUNICATE VISION FAIRLY WITHOUT BEING CUT OFF, WE KNEW THAT HE WOULD WIN. >> YOU'LL BE SETTING UP A PATCH -- MATCH. >> I GOT MY CANNED CAP WHEN I WAS VICE PRESIDENT, THAT WAS NOT A GOOD LOOK. I DON'T THINK BIDEN COULD MAKE TO IT THE TEE. I MEAN, IT WASN'T A GOOD LOOK FOR BIDEN BUT -- >> DISCUSSION ABOUT T FUTURE. >> JASON MILLER SENIOR ADVISER TO THE FORMER PRESIDENT'S CAMPAIGN. THEY ARE TALKING TO REPORTERS. YOU HEARD HIM TALKING ABOUT THE EXCHANGE BETWEEN THE TWO CANDIDATES ABOUT THEIR GOLF GAMES. THEY ALSO TALKED ABOUT SOME OTHER ISSUES M POLICY ISSUES TONIGHT AND WE WANT TO GET YOUR REACTION TO WHAT YOU HEARD FROM THEM. FRANK, A POLLSTER WHO HAS BEEN ON THIS PROGRAM MANY TIMES HELD A SURVEY, A FOCUS GROUP WITH UNDECIDED VOTERS TONIGHT. HE TWEETED THIS OUT AT 10:00 P.M. AFTER THE FIRST COMMERCIAL BREAK I ASKED MY FOCUS GROUP OF UNDECIDED VOTERS HOW MANY ARE MORE CONVINCE TODAY VOTE FOR JOE BIDEN, ZERO, RAISED THEIR HANDS, HALF OF THEM SAID OR SAY THEY VOTED FOR BIDEN IN 2020. >> AS FAR AS THE ECONOMY GOES, AS FAR AS JOB CREATIONS, AS FAR AS WHEN BIDEN HAD TURNED AROUND TO SAY ABOUT HE DID MAKE THE MENTION OF THIS CONGRESS HE WASN'T ABLE TO PASS WHAT HE WANTS TO DO WITH THE IMMIGRATION. >> ALL RIGHT, SO THERE'S LOTS OF FACT-CHECKING THAT HAPPENED DURING TONIGHT'S DEBATE. NEW YORK TIMES, WASHINGTON POST, CNN, POLITIFACT, MANY OUTLET THAT IS YOU CAN GO TO DO GET -- TO SEE WHAT THE CANDIDATES SAID AND WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS TRUE. DONALD TRUMP SAID 18 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE COME OVER THE BORDER UNDER JOE BIDEN, U.S. CUSTOMS AND BORDER DATA SHOWS THAT NATIONWIDE BORDER EIGHTS HAVE STOPPED MIGRANTS ABOUT 9.7 MILLION TIMES DURING BIDEN'S PRESIDENCY. THEN YOU HAVE DANIEL DELL FOR CNN, TRUMP'S CLAIM 18 TO 19 MILLION PEOPLE ENTERING UNDER BIDEN IS FALSE. TOTAL ENCOUNTERS THROUGH MAY 2024 BOTH LEGAL PORTS OF ENTRY AND IN BETWEEN THE PORTS WAS UNDER 10 MILLION. NOT ALL THOSE PEOPLE ARE LET IN AND MANY OF THEM ARE REPEAT TRYERS. THEN YOU HAVE POLITIFACT, ALL THE JOBS CREATED UNDER JOE BIDEN HAVE GONE TO MIGRANTS. THIS IS FALSE. UNDER BIDEN NATIVE-BORN WORKERS JOBS ROSE 7.4 MILLION, FOREIGN-BORN WORKERS JOBS GROW BY 5.6 MILLION. THEN YOU ALSO HAVE POLITIFACT ON PRESIDENT BIDEN. TRUMP DID TELL CNBC THAT THERE'S A LOT YOU CAN DO TO CUT SOCIAL SECURITY BUT HE QUICKLY WALKED BACK HIS STATEMENT TO MATCH THE POSITION ON ON HIS WEBSITE WHICH IS THE PROTECT THE PROGRAM. THEN THERE'S THIS, JOE BIDEN SAID DONALD TRUMP WANTS TO GET RID OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, THAT'S HALF TRUE, FOR YEARS TRUMP VOWED TO REPEAT AND REPLACE ACA BUT IN MARCH HE CHANGED HIS VIEW WITHOUT GIVING DETAILS. THERE IS FACT-CHECKERS AND YOU CAN GO TO CNN, NEW YORK TIMES, THAT'S JUST SOME OF THEM BUT YOU CAN FACT-CHECK YOURSELF, LOOK TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE ARE HAVE RESEARCHED ON WHAT YOU HEARD FROM THE CANDIDATES TONIGHT. SOFIA, INDIANA, SUPPORT ALL THIRDCANDIDATE, WHICH ONE? >> AFTER THE DEBATE I'M SUPPORTING BIDEN. HE KEPT BACK GOING TO BIDEN HE DID NOT DO RATHER THAN WHAT HE WOULD DO IN THOSE SITUATIONS IN ANSWERING THE QUESTION. HONESTLY, I THOUGHT BIDEN DID A GREAT JOB ON BEING ON TOPIC AND MAKING SURE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS WHILE ALSO ADDRESSING WHAT TRUMP WAS ALSO SAYING. >> SOFIA, YOUR TOP ISSUE IN THIS CAMPAIGN, WHY ARE YOU VOTING FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN? WHAT ARE THE ISSUES? >> I'M VOTING FOR BIDEN BECAUSE HONESTLY I LIKE HIS ANSWERS DURING HIS DEBATE. NOT ONLY DID HE ADDRESS THE PROBLEM WHEN HE WAS ASKED ON LIKE TRUMP PERSONALLY, I LIKED HIS STANCE ON TAXES SPECIFICALLY AND HOW HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE 1 PERCENTERS AND RAISING OF TAXES AND WHY. I LIKE HOW HE PERSONALLY ADDRESSED THE PROBLEMS AND ALSO EXPLAINED WHY HE HAD THE STANDPOINTS SPECIFICALLY I LIKED HOW HE TALKED ABOUT UKRAINE AND RUSSIA IN ADDRESSING WHAT TRUMP WAS SAYING. I THOUGHT THAT WAS -- THAT REALLY TURNED MY VOTE ON HOW HE WAS ADDRESSING THAT AND THEN ALSO THE ISSUES WITH IRAN SPECIFICALLY I THOUGHT HE WAS VERY WELL SPOKEN DURING THOSE MOMENTS. >> ALL RIGHT, SOFIA THERE IN INDIANA. WE WILL GO JACOB HERE IN WASHINGTON, D.C. SUPPORTING THE PRESIDENT, JACOB. >> HI, YEAH, I'M SUPPORTING JOE BIDEN IN THIS ELECTION AND I WILL SAY I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SUPER THRILLED ABOUT IT, MAN, BUT LIKE WE'VE GOTTEN TO A POINT NOW WHERE TO BE A PERSON IN THIS COUNTRY IS TO BE FRUSTRATED WITH YOUR LEADERS AND YOUR LEADERSHIP AND IN THIS ELECTION WE ONLY HAVE TWO CHOICES. I DON'T THINK RFK WILL COME TO THE FINISH LINE. >> REPORTERS ARE SAYING DEMOCRATIC STRATEGISTS ARE PANICKING, THEY DIDN'T THINK THAT THE PRESIDENT DID WELL TONIGHT, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT REACTION FROM THEM? >> I THINK THAT'S TOTALLY FAIR. HE HAD A REALLY BAD NIGHT, HE DIDN'T LOOK VERY COHERENT. HE DIDN'T LOOK STRONG AND IT LOOKED LIKE HE, YOU KNOW, WAS QUITE FRANKLY STRUGGLING TO EVEN MAKE IT THROUGH THE FULL TIME OF THE DEBATE, SO, YEAH, I MEAN, IT DIDN'T REALLY AFFECT MY POSITION BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY THINK PERSONALLY THERE'S MUCH OF A CHOICE JUST BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT HIS OPPONENT IS A CONVICTED FELON OH WHO TRIED TO OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT BUT, YEAH, HE DEFINITELY HAD A BAD NIGHT AND HONESTLY IF THIS TURNED PEOPLE OFF FROM VOTING FOR HIM, I WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT. >> ALL RIGHT, JACOB, JACOB, HOW OLD ARE YOU? >> THIS WOULD BE MY FIRST PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION VOTING. >> I'M SORRY, I MISSED YOUR AGE. >> I'M 21. >> JACOB SUPPORTING THE PRESIDENT ON X IF YOU FOLLOW US ON X AT C-SPAN AS OUR HANDLE THERE, YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN A POLL THAT WE ARE DOING THIS EVENING WHO WON THE CNN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE RIGHT NOW IT STANDS AT 67.5% OF THOSE PARTICIPATING SAYING THAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT WON THIS FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE OVER THE SITTING PRESIDENT 32.5% SAYING THAT JOE BIDEN WON TONIGHT. AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST THE FOLKS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN OUR POLL, YOU CAN TO IT YOURSELF IF YOU'D LIKE TO, IF YOU GO TO X AT C-SPAN IS OUR HANDLE. JOSE IN RIO GRANDE CITY, TEXAS. HI, JOSE. JOSE IN TEXAS SUPPORTING PRESIDENT TRUMP. IT'S YOUR TURN. ALL RIGHT, LET ME GO TO SABRINA WHO IS IN GEORGIA, SABRINA, WHO ARE YOU SUPPORTING? >> HI, I'M UNDECIDED RIGHT NOW. BUT I DO FEEL LIKE THERE IS A LIFE OR DEATH SITUATION IN AMERICA AND YOU NEED TO EITHER CHOSE TRUMP OR BIDEN, YOU CAN'T CHOOSE THIRD-PARTY. >> WHY ARE YOU CALLING ON THE THIRD-PARTY LINE? >> I BELIEVE THAT THIRD-PARTY IS NOT FEASIBLE RIGHT NOW AND SO YOU NEED TO CHOOSE AND I HAVE COME TO REALIZATION DURING THIS DEBATE. >> OKAY, AND WHAT ARE THE ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU? >> AS A WOMAN I'M VERY PROROE V. WADE AND I NEED TO VOTE FOR BIDEN AND I WAS UPSET FOR BIDEN DURING THE DEBATE BECAUSE HE WAS NOT ATTACKING TRUMP LIKE HE SHOULD HAVE AND SEEMED WEAK AND TRUMP WAS OVERLY ATTACK AND NOT ABLE TO DISCUSS THE ISSUES AND POINTS AT ALL SO I'M LEANING TOWARDS BIDEN BECAUSE OF THAT. >> ABORTION IS THE IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR HER THIS NOVEMBER. THAT TOPIC DID COME UP AT THE VERY BEGINNING TOWARD THE BEGINNING OF TONIGHT'S DEBATE. HERE BOTH OF THE CANDIDATES ON ABORTION. >> 7 STATES HAVE NO LEGAL RESTRICTIONS ON HOW FAR END A PREGNANCY INTO ABORTION. DO YOU SUPPORT ANY LEGAL LIMITS ON HOW LATE A WOMAN SHOULD BE ABLE TO -- >> SECOND TIME BETWEEN A DOCTOR AND EXTREME SITUATION. A THIRD TIME IS BETWEEN THE DOCTOR AND -- I MEAN, BETWEEN THE WOMAN AND THE STATE. THE IDEA THAT THE POLITICIANS, THE FOUNDERS WANTED THE POLITICIANS TO BE THE ONES MAKING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT A WOMEN'S HEALTH IS RIDICULOUS. THAT'S THE NO POLITICIAN IS MAKING THAT DECISION. A DOCTOR SHOULD BE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS. THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD BE RUN. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO. IF I'M ELECTED I WILL RESTORE ROE V. WADE. >> THAT MEANS HE CAN TAKE THE LIFE OF THE BABY IN THE NINTH MONTH AND EVEN AFTER BIRTH BECAUSE SOME STATES DEMOCRAT RUN TAKE IT AFTER BIRTH, AGAIN, THE FORMER GOVERNOR OF VIRGINIA PUT THE BABY DOWN AND THEN WE DECIDE WHAT TO DO WIT. SO HE'S WILLING TO AS WE SAY RIP THE BABY OUT OF THE BOMBIN THE NINTH MONTH AND KILL THE BABY. NOBODY WANTS THAT TO HAPPEN DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN, NOBODY WANTS IT TO HAPPEN. >> THAT IS SIMPLY. ROE V. WADE DOES NOT SUPPORT THAT. BUT WE ARE NOT FOR LATE-TERM ABORTION PERIOD, PERIOD, PERIOD. >> UNDER ROE V. WADE YOU HAVE LATE-TERM ABORTION. YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT DEPENDING ON THE STATE, YOU DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, WE DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING. WE THINK IT'S A RADICAL THING. WE THINK THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE RADICALS, NOT THE REPUBLICANS. >> FOR 51 YEARS THAT WAS THE LAW. 51 YEARS IT WAS TAKEN AWAY BECAUSE THIS GUY PUT CONSERVATIVE MEMBERS ON THE SUPREME COURT. HE TAKES CREDIT FOR TAKE IT AWAY. WHAT'S HE GOING TO DO, WHAT'S HE GOING TO DO, IN FACT, IF THE MAGA REPUBLICANS, IF HE GETS ELECTED AND THE MAGA REPUBLICANS CONTROL THE CONGRESS AND THEY PASS UNIVERSAL BAN ON ABORTION PERIOD ACROSS THE BOARD AT SIX WEEKS OR 7 OR 8 OR 10, SOMETHING VERY CONSERVATIVE, IS HE GOING TO SIGN THE BILL, I WILL VETO IT, HE WILL SIGN IT. >> THE TWO CANDIDATES TONIGHT SQUARING OFF IN FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE, THAT ISSUE RIGHT THERE ABORTION, ONE OF THE MANY THAT THEY DISCUSSED. IN THE SPIN ROOM ACROSS FROM THE -- THE -- THE STUDIO THAT HELD THE DEBATE, CNN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE, DOUG BURGAM, ONE-TIME PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE TALKING TO REPORTERS. >> THAT'S FOR DEMOCRATS TO DECIDE. THEY'VE CREATED THE SITUATION THAT THEY'RE IN. THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE WORK THEIR WAY THROUGH THAT. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO IS UP. PRESIDENT TRUMP IS GOING TO WIN IN THE FALL. >> I THINK TONIGHT MAYBE MATTER MORE THAN ANY OTHER PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE IN HISTORY BECAUSE THE CONTRAST BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND JOE BIDEN'S WEAKNESS WAS JUST SO ABSOLUTELY CLEAR. YOU COULD HAVE WATCHED THIS SHOW TONIGHT WITH THE SOUND OFF AND YOU WOULD HAVE FIGURED OUT WHO WON THAT DEBATE AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP. >> OKAY, WE HAVE TO RUN. >> THAT IS THE CURRENT GOVERNOR OF NORTH DAKOTA, DOUG BURGAM, RUMORED TO BE VICE PRESIDENTIAL PICK FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP. OUR CAMERAS ARE THERE LIVE THIS EVENING, WE WILL CONTINUE TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE SUPPORTERS OF THESE TWO CANDIDATES ARE TELLING THE MEDIA AND WHILE WE DO THAT, WE ARE GETTING YOUR REACTION TO TONIGHT'S DEBATE. ARNOLD IN MIAMI, FLORIDA, YOU'RE SUPPORTING THE PRESIDENT, THE FORMER PRESIDENT? >> YES, I AM. >> OKAY, TELL US WHY. >> SO IN 2016 I DIDN'T VOTE BUT THE ECONOMY HAS TAKEN OFF, MY FAMILY WAS DOING WELL, AND SO I VOTED FOR HIM IN 2020. AND NOW IT'S -- IT'S -- EVERYTHING IS A LOT HARDER. IT'S CLEAR, I MEAN, EVERYTHING WAS REVERSED UNDER BIDEN AND ALL I KNOW MY PERSONAL SITUATION AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT MATTER TO ME, MY FAMILY, THAT'S WHY I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP. AND WHEN WE GET TO IMMIGRATION TOO, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THESE NUMBERS, FACT-CHECKERS, 18 MILLION, 9 MILLION, LISTEN, I WORK IN MANHATTAN. I LIVED IN NEW JERSEY. I HAVE FAMILY THERE, IT'S VISIBLE, YOU CAN SEE IT, THE CRIME RATE IS UP, IT IS DIRECTLY AFFECTING PEOPLE, SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THAT NUMBER IS BUT IT'S AFFECTING PEOPLE. SO WE ARE VOTING BASED ON THAT. >> ALL RIGHT, SO THAT IS WHY YOU'RE SUPPORTING THE FORMER PRESIDENT? >> YES. >> ALL RIGHT, DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE FORMER PRESIDENT GETTING A SECOND TERM? >> NO, NO, NOT AT ALL. WHEN HE RAN THE FIRST TIME THEY SAID HE WAS GOING TO START WORLD WAR III, THIS AND THAT NONE OF THAT LAP, HE BROKERED PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. YOU DON'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. I'M MUCH WORRIED ABOUT THAN BIDEN LOOKING LIKE A CORPSE ON TV. >> WE WILL GO TO BRANDON WHO IS UNDECIDED IN MICHIGAN. BRANDON, WERE YOU HOPING TONIGHT'S DEBATE WOULD ALLOW YOU TO MAKE A DECISION? >> I WAS HOPING THAT BUT HONESTLY I THINK IT IS A PRETTY BAD PERFORMANCE BY BOTH OF THEM. >> TELL US -- TELL US WHERE THEY BOTH FAILED IN YOUR OPINION TONIGHT? >> OBVIOUSLY AGE FOR BIDEN BUT FOR TRUMP HE COULDN'T STAY ON TOPIC AT ALL. QUESTIONS ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE AND HOW TO HELP PEOPLE GET OVER ADDICTION AND HE KEPT COMING THANK IMMIGRATION AND I'M -- YOU KNOW, I'M DECIDED BECAUSE I'VE BEEN A STAUNCH BERNIE SUPPORTER SINCE 2016 AND DID VOTE FOR BIDEN IN 2020, YEAH, HE'S HELPING PEOPLE OUT A LITTLE BIT, I CANNOT IN GOOD CONSCIOUS VOTE FOR SOMEONE WHO HAS THIS RESPONSE FOR ISRAEL. TRUMP ON THE OTHER HAND, ALL I HEAR ARE THINGS GOING TO BE TAKEN AWAY, NOT TO HELP ANYBODY OUT. >> OKAY, BRANDON, CONGRESSMAN ROBERT GARCIA OF CALIFORNIA TALKING TO REPORTERS. >> EVERY SINGLE DAY. THE PRESIDENT IS OUT DOING EVENTS EVERY SINGLE DAY. HE'S DOING PRESS CONFERENCES, HE'S OUT THERE CAMPAIGNING AND WE ALL SEE THAT. THE IDEA THAT SOMEHOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE OUTCOME. DONALD TRUMP IS LYING. >> IS IT A PROBLEM, THOUGH, THAT YOU'RE GETTING QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER WHO IS GOING TO BE ON THE ISN'T IT CORRECT NORMALLY IF A CANDIDATE IS HAS A BAD NIGHT AND ONTO THE NEXT BUT YOU'RE GETTING THE QUESTIONS FOR A REASON, HOW MUCH OF A PROBLEM IS THAT? >> LOOK, I THINK WE ARE -- YOU'RE ASKING THE QUESTION WE ARE BEING HONEST AND CLEAR, JOE BIDEN IS OUR NOMINEE, HE'S A GOOD MAN, WE TRUST HIM, WE ARE BEHIND HIM AND I THINK THE FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE CONTRAST OF TONIGHT. THE TRUTH IS WE HAD SOMEBODY IN DONALD TRUMP THAT ALL HE DID WAS LIE, EVERY SINGLE TIME. HE LIED AND LIED AND SO I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT MAY HAVE HAD A MINOR -- MAYBE HAD -- NEEDED DRINK OF WATER TO CLEAR HIS THROAT THAT'S A GOOD MAN AND DELIVERY FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT JOE BIDEN IS NOT GOING TO LEAD A COUP AND LEAD POTENTIALLY INSURRECTION TO ATTACK THE CAPITOL. WE HAVE A CONVICTED CRIMINAL IN DONALD TRUMP. HE'S A CRIMINAL WHO FACES MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE MORE COUNTS. I THINK THAT THAT CONTRAST IS GOING TO BE MADE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. >> GO AHEAD. >> IS IT REALLY FAIR TO SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'RE MINGING THE CONVICTION BUT EVERY INDICTMENT HIS POLLING NUMBERS HAVE ONLY INCREASED, THE RAISING NUMBERS ONLY INCREASED, IS IT FAIR TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT? >> BOTH CANDIDATES RAISING A LOT OF MONEY AND AT THE END OF THE DAY POLLS HAVE BEEN CLOSE. WE'VE ALWAYS HAD CLOSE ELECTION. I THINK THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN NEVER SAID THIS WAS NOT GOING TO BE A CLOSE ELECTION. IT WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE A CLOSE COLLECTION BUT, BUT THE IMPORTANT THING EVERY SINGLE DAY FROM HERE TO NOVEMBER WE ARE GOING MAKE A CONTRAST BETWEEN SOMEBODY WHO HAS LOWERED THE PRICE OF INSULIN, PROTECTING A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE AND STUDENTS AND LGBTQ SUPPORTED VERSUS SOMEBODY WHO LED AN ATTACK ON THE CAPITOL AND CONVICTED CRIMINAL. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION TO MAKE. >> YOU SAID JUST NOW -- >> CONGRESSMAN GARCIA, DEMOCRAT OF CALIFORNIA TALKING TO REPORTERS. YOU HEARD REPORTERS QUESTIONING HIM ABOUT CONCERN OF DEMOCRATS OF PRESIDENT BIDEN REMAINING AS NOMINEE. BIDEN HOPE TODAY BUILD FRESH MOMENTUM AGREEING TWO WEEKS BEFORE HE'S NOMINATED. INSTEAD PERFORMANCE PROMPTED WAVE OF DEMOCRATS AND REOPENED DISCUSSIONS OF WHETHER HE SHOULD BE THE NOMINEE AT ALL. TIM, WHAT DID YOU THINK OF TONIGHT'S DEBATE? >> I MEAN, I THOUGHT IT WAS A JOKE. I WATCHED THE ENTIRE DEBATE AND I DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED. I'VE SEEN LIKE -- >> CAN YOU RECALL THE CANDIDATES' POSITIONS ON ONE ISSUE THAT YOU CARE ABOUT? >> YEAH, I CAN RECALL THE -- THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION ABOUT CHILD CARE, NONE OF THEM ANSWERED IT AND I THOUGHT IT WAS STRIKING BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP IN 2017 DOUBLED THE CHILD CARE TAX CREDIT. AND I BET HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HE DID THAT, AND THEN 2021, JOE BIDEN IS PART OF THE COVID STIMULUS INCREASED EVEN MORE AND SAID HE WAS GOING TO CUT CHILD POVERTY IN HALF AND HE LET THAT EXPIRE WHICH NATURALLY WOULD DOUBLE CHILD POVERTY. SO DONALD TRUMP DIDN'T EVEN BRING THIS UP. THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW -- THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEMSELVES HAVE DONE AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT EACH OTHER HAVE DONE, THEY ARGUED ABOUT GOLF, THAT WAS A JOKE. >> OKAY. TIM THERE IN ILLINOIS. MATT TWEETING OUT THAT THE VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS WAS ON CNN FOLLOWING TONIGHT'S DEBATE AND THIS IS WHAT SHE SAID, QUOTE, JOE BIDEN IS EXTRAORDINARILY STRONG, WHAT WE SAW TONIGHT IS THE PRESIDENT MAKING A VERY CLEAR CONTRAST WITH DONALD TRUMP, SHE SAYS, YES, THERE WAS A SLOW START BUT IT WAS A STRONG FINISH. JOHN N BOISE, IDAHO SUPPORTING THE FORMER PRESIDENT. JOHN, HOW DID YOUR CANDIDATE DO? >> BIDEN, I DON'T THINK HE'S GOING THE MAKE IT ANOTHER TERM. HE'S GOING DOWNHILL PRETTY FAST. DONALD TRUMP WHEN HE WAS IN OFFICE, HE BROUGHT THE WORK BACK TO THE UNITED STATES, HE CLOSED OUT THE BORDERS, HE DID BRING THE WORK BACK WHICH I'M AN ELECTRICIAN. HE TAXED ME A LITTLE MORE, LET ME DO MY -- I THOUGHT IT WAS FOR THE GOOD BECAUSE WE HAD SO MUCH WORK, OUT OF CONTROL. AND SO WE MADE UP FOR IT. SO I THINK I'M FOR TRUMP. I THINK HE'S GOING TO BRING BACK THE COMMODITY HERE AND EVERYTHING, THE BUSINESSES AND I KNOW BIDEN HAS GOT BUSINESS STILL GOING AND THERE IS SOME STUFF IN BOISE THAT HE SRTED BUT TRUMP WILL DO THE EXACT SAME THING. HE WILL NOT VETO THAT. HE WILL KEEP IT GOING AND EVERYTHING. >> ALL RIGHT, THE CANDIDATES ALSO TALKED ABOUT IMMIGRATION TONIGHT, SEVERAL TIMES AND IF YOU MISSED ANY OF TONIGHT'S DEBATE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO FIND IT ON OUR WEBSITE. WE WILL REAIR ADD MIDNIGHT TONIGHT IN ITS ENTIRETY. ON THAT -- ON THE STAGE TONIGHT AS MANY OF YOU KNOW WAS ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR., HE DECIDED TO HOLD HIS OWN DEBATE WHERE HE WOULD RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS GIVEN TO THE TWO CANDIDATES AT THE CNN DEBATE. HERE IS WHAT RFK, JR. HAD TO SAY ON IMMIGRATION. >> MR. KENNEDY, THE QUESTION WHICH NEITHER CANDIDATE ANSWERED WAS -- [LAUGHTER] >> THERE ARE MILLIONS OF UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS IN THE COUNTRY NOW, WHAT WOULD YOU DO? >> WELL, I WANT TO COMMENT ON -- ON DIGRESSIONS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP IS RIGHT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF BAD PEOPLE COMING ACROSS. I THINK THAT'S UNDISPUTED AND WE ARE SEEING RISE IN CRIME AT OUR ASSOCIATED WITH THE IMMIGRANTS BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THERE'S JUST A SHEER NUMBER AND I THINK A LOT OF THE DEMOCRATS ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN OUT OF HUMANITARIAN IMPULSE, OUT OF THE IMPULSE OF COMPASSION BUT WHEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY DOWN THERE AND TALKING TO PEOPLE, IT'S NOT A COMPASSION, IT'S AN ILLUSION. THE PEOPLE THAT I TALKED TO, MANY OF THEM HADDEN EXTORTED, EXPLODED, ROBBED AND HAD BEEN RAPED, THEY -- WE HAVE AN IMMIGRATION POLICY IN THIS COUNTRY THAT IS IS NOW BEING RUN BY THE SINALOA DRUG CARTEL. THE BORDER PATROL HAVE BEEN ORDERED NOT TO DO THEIR JOB. CATCH AND RELEASE, THEY BRING THEM TO THE YUMA AIRPORT, PUT THEM ON A PLANE TO ANY DESTINATION THEY WANT. IT SOUNDS LIKE A HYPERBOLE AND THEY PAY THEIR TICKET FANNED THEY -- AND THEN THEY GET REIMBURSEMENT FROM FEMA. MANY ARE ON THE STREET. THEY HAVE ASYLUM COURT DATE 7 YEARS IN THE FUTURE, THEY CAN'T LEGALLY WORK BUT THEY ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF PREDATORY EMPLOYERS WHO ARE PAYING 6 OR $8 AN HOUR AND THOSE EMPLOYERS ARE BIDDING AGAINST UNION SHOPS, GETTING PAID 35 OR $50 AN HOUR AND THE UNION SHOPS ARE LOSING THE BID. THERE ARE -- THEY ARE CAMPED OUT IN RANDAL'S ISLAND ON THE PLAYING FIELDS WITH CHILDREN THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYING FOR SPORTS. SO THESE KID, THE WONDERFUL NEW YORK CITY KIDS OR SCHOLARSHIP -- >> ALL RIGHT. >> AND NOW THEY ARE BEING -- THE SAME THING IS HAPPENING. THEY CAN'T PLAY THEIR SUPPORT BECAUSE THERE'S IMMIGRANTS. >> TIME IS UP HERE. INDEPENDENT PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE ROBERT F. KENNEDY, JR. ON THE DEBATE STAGE IN A SEPARATE VENUE. HE HELD THAT DEBATE RESPONDING TO WHAT THE TWO CANDIDATES WERE ASKED AT THE CNN DEBATE STREAMING ON X AND ON WEBSITE AS WELL. WE ARE GETTING YOUR REACTION TO CNN'S DEBATE TONIGHT, THE FIRST IN THIS 2024 ELECTION CYCLE. THERE ARE THE LINES ON YOUR SCREEN. LET'S HEAR FROM DEBBIE IN NEW YORK, DEBBIE, WHY ARE YOU UNDECIDED STILL? DEBBIE, IT'S YOUR TURN. YOU ARE UNDECIDED, TELL US WHY. >> I AM UNDECIDED BECAUSE THE CHOICES REALLY, BETWEEN DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS AS WELL AS THE THIRD-PARTY, I MEAN, IT'S LIKE WE HAVE NO HOPE. , WHAT CAN WE POSSIBLY DO, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? >> DEBBIE, ON THE ISSUES WHO DO YOU LEAN TOWARD? >> CERTAINLY BIDEN. HIS POLICY IS EXCELLENT, HE'S ACCOMPLISHED SO MUCH, THE ONLY THING THAT CONCERNS ME IS HIS HEALTH AND I WISH HE WAS 20 YEARS YOUNGER, OF COURSE. >> DO YOU THINK HE SHOULD BE THE NOMINEE? >> I CAN'T SAY I DON'T THINK HE SHOULD BE THE NOMINEE. I JUST WISHED WE HAD SOMEBODY THAT WAS YOUNGER THAT WAS CARRYING THE SAME POLICY HE WAS -- WHO THINK IT IS SAME WAY, WHO ACCOMPLISHES THE SAME, YOU KNOW, AS PRESIDENT BIDEN DOES. I REALLY DO LIKE WHAT HE'S DOING, WHAT HE'S DONE FOR THE COUNTRY, I LIKE HIS DECENCY AND I LIKE HIM AS A HUMAN BEING AS OPPOSED TO TRUMP WHO LIES. I THINK AS AMERICANS WE ARE ALL INTELLIGENT ENOH TO KNOW WHEN WE ARE BEING LIED SO BLATANTLY. >> IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT CAN DO TO CONVINCE YOU TO VOTE FOR HIM? >> NO. TO BE HONEST NO. >> THEN WHAT WOULD YOU DO? YOU'RE LEANING TOWARD PRESIDENT BIDEN BUT YET YOU SAY YOU'RE UNDECIDED, SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? >> I AM GOING THE WAIT UNTIL THE LAST MOMENT. I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN UNDECIDED TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. I WAS HOPING MITT ROMNEY WOULD RUN, OH, GOD, ANYBODY BUT TRUMP FOR GOD'S SAKE. >> TYLER IN FORT MORGAN IN COLORADO ALSO UNDECIDED. TYLER, THANKS FOR CALLING IN TONIGHT. >> YES, MA'AM, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO CALL IN, I FEEL LIKE MORE THAN EVER THE COUNTRY IS SO DIVIDED. WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER. I'M LEANING MORE TOWARDS TRUMP. I DID VOTE FOR HIM IN 2016. HE'S A VIABLE LEADER WHEN HE CAME TO THE OFFICE HE DID -- TRUMP IS BEHIND THE TROOPS, HE'S FOR THE TROOPS AND HE'S FOR THE COUNTRY AND I'VE SEEN A LOT MORE MILITARY PROGRAMS UNDERNEATH TRUMP AS OPPOSED TO NOW WHERE THERE'S PROGRAMS THE VA IS VERY UNDERCOMPENSATED THE WAIT TIMES ARE EXTREMELY LONGER THAN WHAT THEY WERE UNDERNEATH TRUMP. >> SO TYLER WHAT'S YOUR HESITATION THEN, WHY NOT SAY YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE FOR THE FORMER PRESIDENT? >> I HONESTLY WAS JUST TRYING TO GET -- GET THROUGH ON THE PHONE CALL. >> ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO GO TO ROY IN GARLAND, TEXAS. ROY. YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN IN NOVEMBER? >> NO. >> I WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR HIM. >> YOUR TOP ISSUES. >> WHAT? >> YOUR TOP ISSUES IN THIS CAMPAIGN, WHAT YOU CARE ABOUT? >> ALL I CARE IS GETTING TRUMP SO HE WILL DO THE RIGHT THING, OUR COUNTRY IS FALLING APART AND EVERYBODY IS SCARED AND BIDEN LETTING ALL THE IMMIGRANTS IN. I'M 74. WE ARE ALL SCARED BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE BEING KILLED, THOUSANDS OF THEM ARE COMING ACROSS. HE'S NOT STOPPING IT. I THINK THEY SHOULD PUT ELECTRIC WIRE UP THERE, ANYBODY THAT TRIES TO GET IN ZAP THEM. >> ALL RIGHT, TALKING ABOUT IMMIGRATION SUPPORTING THE FORMER PRESIDENT. MANY OF YOU MENTIONED THE TOPIC OF AGE, THE PRESIDENT'S AGE AS WE SHOWED YOU REPORTERS TALKING TO DEMOCRATIC OPERATIVES AND THEY ARE EXPRESSING CONCERNS ABOUT THE PRESIDENT'S PERFORMANCE AND HIS AGE. IT WAS BROUGHT UP AT TONIGHT'S DEBATE, TAKE A LISTEN. >> PRESIDENT BIDEN YOU WOULD BE 86 AT THE END OF YOUR TERM. >> FIRST OF ALL, I SPENT HALF OF MY CAREER BEING CRITICIZED BEING THE YOUNGEST PERSON IN POLITICS. I WAS THE SECOND YOUNGEST PERSON EVER ELECT TODAY THE UNITED STATES SENATE AND NOW I'M THE OLDEST. THIS GUY IS 3 YEARS I DON'T YOUD LESS COMPETENT. LOOK AT THE HORRIBLE SITUATION HE LEFT ME. >> FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP YOU WOULD BE 82 AT THE END OF YOUR SECOND TERM, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO VOTERS THAT HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT YOUR CAPABILITIES TO SERVE? >> WELL, I TOOK TWO TESTS. I ACED THEM, BOTH OF THEM AS YOU KNOW. WE MADE IT PUBLIC. HE TOOK NONE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIM TAKE ONE, EASY ONE LIKE GO THROUGH THE FIRST FIVE QUESTIONS, HE COULDN'T DO IT. I TOOK TWO COGNITIVE TESTS. I TOOK PHYSICAL EXAMS EVERY YEAR AND, YOU KNOW, WE KNOCK ON WOOD WHEREVER WE MAY HAVE WOOD THAT I'M IN VERY GOOD HEALTH. I JUST WON TWO CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS, NOT EVEN SENIOR, TWO REGULAR CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS, TO DO THAT YOU HAVE TO BE QUITE SMART AND YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HIT THE BALL A LONG WAY AND I DO IT. HE DOESN'T DO IT, HE CAN'T HIT A BALL 50 YARDS. HE CHALLENGED ME TO A GOLF MATCH AND CAN'T HIT A BALL 50 YARDS. I THINK I'M IN VERY GOOD SHAPE. I FEEL LIKE I WAS IN GOOD SHAPE 25 YEARS AGO, PROBABLY LIGHTER. BUT GOOD A SHAPE AS I WAS YEARS AGO. I FEEL THE SAME. I WAS WILLING TO TAKE A COGNITIVE TEST AND YOU KNOW WHAT IF I DIDN'T DO WELL, I ACED THEM. >> YOU'RE GOING SEE HE TO A SIXD BY THE WAY, I TOLD YOU BEFORE I'M HAPPY TO PLAY GOLF IF YOU CARRY YOUR OWN BAG. THINK YOU CAN DO IT? >> THAT'S THE BIGGEST -- >> I'VE SEEN YOUR SWING, I KNOW YOUR SWING. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP -- LET'S NOT ACT LIKE CHILDREN. >> ONE OF THE MOMENTS FROM TONIGHT'S PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE, THE FIRST IN THIS ELECTION CYCLE WITH THE TWO PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEES FROM EACH PARTY, DEBATE TAKING PLACE BEFORE THE CONVENTIONS, REPUBLICANS WILL MEET IN MILWAUKEE IN JULY FOR THEIR CONVENTION, DEMOCRATS IN CHICAGO IN AUGUST TO FORMALLY NOMINATE THE TWO CANDIDATES. JEFF IN FLOWERY BRANCH, GEORGIA, JEFF, WHAT DO YOU SUPPORT? >> YES, YES, THAT'S CORRECT. GOOD EVENING, I'M AN INDEPENDENT VOTER, I WISH THERE WAS A STRONGER THIRD-PARTY IN THE UNITED STATES. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT TO A LOT OF THE CALLERS THAT CALL IN THAT THE BORDER PROBLEM HAS EXISTED SINCE THE 60's OR EVEN A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THAN THAT. SO HOW MANY PRESIDENTS HAVE WE HAD WHERE BOTH PARTIES THAT HAVE NOT DEALT WITH THAT ISSUE? SO THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE JUST TODAY, IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE THAT HAS EXISTED FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. NOW THE GOP PARTY CUT THE BORDER FUNDING BY 24%, THEY PASSED A LAW OR NOT A LAW, ONE OF THEIR PROGRAMS THAT CUT SECURITY YARD SO BIDEN HAD REBUILT THAT, SO THE THING THAT I LIKE TO POINT OUT IS, OKAY, SO BIDEN STRUGGLED TONIGHT. I DON'T THINK IT WAS AN IMPRESSIVE PERFORMANCE BUT THE OTHER CANDIDATE NEVER ANSWERED A QUESTION. THE ONLY THING I EVER HEARD THROUGH THE WHOLE CONVERSATION WAS I'M GREAT, I'M THE GREATEST, I'VE BEEN THE GREATEST EVER, I WILL BE THE GREATEST, THAT'S ALL THAT MAN SAID. >> SO WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR? WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR IN NOVEMBER? >> I'M LEANING TOWARDS JOE BIDEN BUT THE REASON I'M LEANING TOWARDS JOE BIDEN IS YOU CAN'T PUT A PERSON IN OFFICE, NUMBER ONE, BECAUSE OF HIS CONVICTED FELONS, HE NOW CANNOT VISIT SO MANY COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD. NUMBER TWO, THIS INDIVIDUAL SAID, I'M THE SECOND MESIAH THAT CAME OUT OF HIS MOUTH, HE'S THE WHITE MANDELA, HE'S ALSO REFERRED TO HITLER NUMEROUS TIMES AND THEN HE WANTS TO BE A DICTATOR. YOU CAN'T PUT AN INDIVIDUAL IN THE WHITE HOUSE THAT SAYS HE WANTS TO BE A DICTATOR. AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING HE'S OUT TO BE. >> ALL RIGHT, JEFF, WILLIAM IN WYNWOOD SUPPORTING FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP, IS THAT RIGHT? >> YES, MA'AM, IT IS. >> ALL RIGHT, WHAT DID YOU LIKE, WHAT DID YOU HEAR FROM HIM TONIGHT THAT YOU LIKED? >> I LIKED HIS IMMIGRATION POLICY HE TALKED ABOUT. I DON'T THINK HE REALLY WENT INTO DEPTH FOR PLAN FOR MASS DEPORTATION BUT I BELIEVE THAT IS VIABLE AND PROBABLY GOOD DIRECTION IN THE WORLD. IF YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD THIS KIND OF IMMIGRATION HAS NEVER BEEN SEEN BEFORE IN HISTORY AND PLAYING WITH FIRE IF YOU ASK ME. I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND KIND OF REEVALUATE, I GUESS, WHAT IS HAPPENING. I MEAN, THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED. IT NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE ON THIS SCALE. BUT, YES, SO I THINK HIS IMMIGRATION WAS A BIG THING I WAS FOCUSING ON. >> OKAY, JOHN IN ILLINOIS SUPPORTING PRESIDENT BIDEN, RIGHT, JOHN? >> YES, YES I AM. >> TELL US WHY. WHAT DID YOU HEAR FROM HIM THAT YOU LIKED? >> WELL, IT WASN'T SO MUCH WHAT I HEARD FROM THE PRESIDENT THAT I LIKED, IT'S MORE WHAT HE DIDN'T SAY. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, I'M COUNTING ON PRESIDENT BIDEN TO REALLY TAKE A DIFFERENT STANCE ESPECIALLY ON FOREIGN POLICY COMING UP HERE BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S ONE PLACE WHERE DOMESTIC TRUMP ALSO REALLY GETS THROUGH ON, YOU KNOW, WITH HIS ANTI-CHINA RHETORIC. SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS WHAT I'M EXPECTED TO COME FROM THE PRESIDENT. >> JOHN, WHAT DO YOU MAKE TO HAVE CONSTERNATION BY DEMOCRATS THAT THE PRESIDENT DID NOT PERFORM WELL TONIGHT? >> WELL, THE CONSTERNATION, THAT REALLY COMES DOWN TO, I THINK, JUST KIND OF HOW, YOU KNOW, BOTHERED THE PRESIDENT SEEMED TO BE AT LEAST WITH JUST WITH TRUMP'S PRESENCE THERE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN WHAT I'M REALLY COUNTING ON BIDEN TO DO, A SPECIFIC POLICY OPTION, I WANT HIM AND EXPECTING HIM TO LINE UP SEVERAL DIVISIONS OF THE ARMY, ROLL UP MEXICO ALL THE WAY TO COLOMBIA AND THEN DROP PARA TROOPERS. >> OKAY, WE WILL GO CAMILLE IN NEW YORK. CAMILLE, YOU ARE UNDECIDED. >> WHAT DID YOU THINK OF THE DEBATE GIVEN YOUR UNDECIDED? >> I THINK THE MODERATORS DID A VERY GOOD JOB. I THOUGHT THAT THEY ASKED RELEVANT QUESTIONS TO ISSUES THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT AND I WAS NOT IMPRESSED WITH ANY ANSWERS FROM EITHER SIDE. I AM A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT. I DID VOTE FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN IN THE PREVIOUS ELECTION DURING THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES IN NEW YORK I HANDED A BLANK SLIP BECAUSE I'VE BEEN UNHAPPY WITH HOW BIDEN HAS BEEN RUNNING. I DON'T THINK I WOULD EVER VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP, I'M JUST REALLY NOT SURE WHAT TO DO RIGHT NOW WITH WHAT WE ARE BEING GIVEN. >> WHAT ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT WITH THE PRESIDENT, THE FOREIGN POLICY? >> ABSOLUTELY FOREIGN POLICY. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT PALESTINE AND HOW THINGS IN ISRAEL ARE GOING, JUST CONCERNED IN GENERAL WITH ROE V. WADE BEING OVERTURNED, LGBTQ RIGHTS, HOW THINGS ARE GOING WITH EDUCATION AND THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED IN OTHER STATES REGARDING RELIGION IN THE SCHOOLS AND I THINK THAT THINGS ARE JUST A LITTLE BIT SCARY RIGHT NOW. >> CAMILLE, WHAT SHOULD THE PRESIDENT DO TO GET YOUR VOTE? >> I THINK HE SHOULD TAKE A HARDER STANCE ON A LOT OF THESE ISSUES THAT I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY. >> DO YOU THINK HE SHOULD -- DO YOU THINK HE SHOULD REMAIN THE NOMINEE AFTER TONIGHT'S DEBATE? >> TO BE TOTALLY HONEST IN A PERFECT WORLD I DON'T THINK HE WOULD, I DON'T THINK HE SHOULD. >> YOU DON'T THINK HE SHOULD. >> WHO WOULD REPLACE HIM AT THIS POINT? JUNE 27TH, FOUR MONTHS AWAY FROM THE GENERAL ELECTION. >> I -- I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER. I DON'T KNOW. >> CAMILLE THERE IN NEW YORK, MORE OF THE CALLS, FIRST JOINING US FROM THE SPIN ROOM IS MEGANATIONAL POLITICS REPORTER WITH THE ASSOCIATED PRESS. MEG, WHAT IS THE HEADLINE TOMORROW OF THIS DEBATE? >> HEY, THERE, GOOD TO BE WITH YOU. THE HEADLINE FROM THIS DEBATE IS IT PROBABLY DIDN'T CHANGE A WHOLE LOT OF AMERICANS' MINDS. WE OFTEN HEAR THAT COMING INTO THESE THINGS BUT I WOULD SAY THAT COMING OUT OF TONIGHT THERE ARE PROBABLY THOSE WHO DON'T LOVE DONALD TRUMP WHO ARE PROBABLY STILL FEELING THAT WAY AND VOTERS WHO DON'T LOVE JOE BIDEN ARE PROBABLY STILL FEELING THAT WAY TOO. OF COURSE, WE ARE HEARING DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF WHO WON, WHO LOST AND WHO IS UP AND WHO IS DOWN FROM A LOT OF THE SURROGATES DOING SPIN IN THE ROOM BEHIND ME BUT IT'S THE VOTERS IN THE MIDDLE WHO REALLY HAVEN'T YET DECIDED EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON FOR THEM WHEN IT COMES TO NOVEMBER 5TH. I STILL DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY NECESSARILY HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE DOING AFTER TONIGHT AND THEY HAVE A COUPLE MORE MONTHS TO DECIDE BUT THE TIMELINE IS GETTING SHORTER AND SHORTER. >> WHAT QUESTIONS ARE REPORTERS ASKING OF THOSE SUPPORTERS FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN? WHAT ARE THEY ASKING OF OF THOSE SUPPORTERS IN THE SPIN ROOM TONIGHT? >> THERE WAS ONE SCRUM WITH ALL OF THE BIDEN SURROGATES, I WAS IN IT AND OVER AND OVER THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THEY FELT ABOUT PRESIDENT BIDEN'S PERFORMANCE, WERE THEY CONFIDENT IN HIS PERFORMANCE AND GAVIN NEWSOM PARTICULARLY DID HE REGRET NOT RUNNING HIMSELF THIS CYCLE AND THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF CLEAR ANSWERS TO THOSE. OF COURSE, THESE ARE SURROGATES ON BEHALF OF THE PRESIDENT SO THEY ARE GOING TO BE SAYING SOMETHING POSITIVE ABOUT THE PERFORMANCE THAT THEY SAW BUT THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP FROM REPORTERS LIKE ME WHO WERE IN THE SPIN ROOM, HOW DO YOU REALLY FEEL ABOUT THIS? ARE YOU SURE, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT AS A SUPPORTER OF THE PRESIDENT'S CAMPAIGN AND OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN SUPPORTING PRESIDENT BIDEN AND THEY'RE ARGUING THAT THIS IS ONE DEBATE AND, OF COURSE, EVERYONE IS GOING TO READ INTO CERTAIN PAUSES OR OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPENED DURING IT. THEY'RE ALL PORTRAYING THAT CONFIDENCE BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE ALSO A LOT OF TECHS FLYING AROUND FROM DEMOCRATS THAT I'M IN TOUCH WITH AND OTHER FORMER BIND ADJACENT PEOPLE THAT I'VE WORKED WITH IN THE PAST WHO ARE EXPRESSING CONCERN AND SAYING THEY DIDN'T REALLY LIKE WHAT THEY SAW TONIGHT AND I'M SURE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING OUTSIDE OF THAT. >> WHAT ARE THE REPORTERS IN THE ROOM ASKING OF THOSE THAT ARE SUPPORTING THE FORMER PRESIDENT? WHAT ARE THEY FOLLOWING UP ON FROM TONIGHT'S DEBATE? >> THEY'RE FOLLOWING UP ON SOME SPECIFICS CERTAINLY, REPEATEDLY TRUMP PIVOTED BACK TO IMMIGRATION OVER AND OVER AND SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR CLARITY ON DOES -- IS THIS OBVIOUSLY STILL A TOP ISSUE FOR HIM AND WHAT WOULD HE CONTINUE TO SAY ABOUT THINGS THAT HE PORTRAYS AS JOE BIDEN'S FAILURES ALONG THE U.S.-MEXICO BORDER BUT A LOT OF WHAT WE ARE HEARING FROM THE SURROGATES, YEAH, WE FEEL REALLY WELL ABOUT HOW OUR GUY DID TONIGHT, JOE BIDEN DIDN'T DO THAT WELL AND, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, WE HEARD IN THE DAYS LEADING UP TO TONIGHT THAT TRUMP SURROGATES AND TRUMP CAMPAIGN KIND OF PORTRAYING THAT JOE BIDEN IS A VERY SEASONED DEBATER AND HE'S BEEN DOING IT FOR DECADES AND KIND OF JUST SAYING THAT THEY WERE COMING INTO THIS THINKING THAT HE WOULD BE A VERY TOUGH OPPONENT AND THEN TONIGHT WE HEARD A VERY BIG FLIP FROM THAT OF, YEAH, THIS WASN'T A GREAT NIGHT FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT AND WE AS TRUMP SUPPORTERS ARE FEELING SUPER GREAT. I HEARD THE WORDS DEVASTATION BEING THROWN AROUND BY SOME OF THE SURROGATES WHO WERE BACK THERE BEHIND ME. CLEARLY THAT'S NOT MY OPINION BUT IT'S HOW IT'S BEING PORTRAYED BY SOME OF THE TRUMP FOLKS TONIGHT. CLEARLY THEIR MOOD WAS JUBILANT AND A WHOLE LOT OF THEM OUT THERE ON THE FLOOR BEFORE JOE BIDEN SURROGATES SHOWED UP AND THE LAST I CHECKED THEY WERE STILL OUT THERE AFTER THE SURROGATES HAD LEFT. >> WHERE DO THE TWO CANDIDATES GO NEXT? >> WELL, THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS TONIGHT HAVING A DIFFERENT EVENT WITH SOME OF THOSE WHO ARE PURPORTED TO BE ON HIS VP SHORT LIST, SOME OF THE NAMES THAT WE'VE HEARD THROWN AROUND IS POTENTIAL RUNNING MATES THE FORMER PRESIDENT GOING INTO THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION THAT WE WILL SEE NEXT MONTH AND JOE BIDEN IS HEADING UP TO NORTH CAROLINA WHICH IS ONE OF THE STATES THAT'S VERY MUCH UP FOR GRABS WHEN IT COMES TO GENERAL ELECTION, THAT'S WHERE HE PLANS TO BE TO MEET WITH FOLKS TONIGHT AND THEN WE WILL SEE FROM THERE WHERE THE CRAZY CAMPAIGN SCHEDULE GOES. >> ON FRIDAY, TOMORROW, THE PRESIDENT WILL BE IN RALEIGH, NORTH CAROLINA AT NOON EASTERN TIME. WE WILL HAVE COVERAGE OF IT ON C-SPAN2 AND ALSO OUR FREE VIDEO HALF APP AND ONLINE AT C-SPAN.ORG AND THEN WE WILL HAVE LIVE COVERAGE OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT IN CHESAPEAKE, VIRGINIA AT 3:30 P.M. EASTERN TIME. AGAIN, ON C-SPAN2, ON C-SPAN NOW, OUR FREE VIDEO MOBILE APP AND ONLINE AT C-SPAN.ORG. WHAT IS THE STRATEGIES FOR THOSE TWO CAMPAIGNS TO REACH VOTERS IN THE COMING WEEKS? >> WE SAID IT A MILLION TIMES BUT IT'S A QUESTION OF HOW DO THEY GET TO THOSE FOLKS WHO HAVEN'T NECESSARILY MADE UP THEIR MIND. WE HAVE ALL TALK TODAY UNDECIDED VOTERS AND PEOPLE WHO HAD MAYBE FLIP-FLOPPED OVER THE TWO CAMPAIGN CYCLES WHERE THEY'VE HAD OPTIONS TO SELECT BIDEN OR TRUMP IN THE PAST. I THINK THEY WILL NEED TO BE CONTINUE TO GO HIGHLIGHT CONTRAST AND KEY ISSUES WHICH IS THE ECONOMY WHICH WAS THE FIRST THING THAT CAME UP TONIGHT AND OBVIOUSLY IMMIGRATION A MAJOR CONCERN TO A LOT OF VOTERS THAT I TALKED TO BUT IT'S ALWAYS THE ECONOMY THAT COMES UP FIRST. FROM THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN, WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM ADVISERS IN THOSE CIRCLES, THE PRESIDENT NEEDS TO ARGUE SPECIFICS ON HOW HE HAS IMPROVED THE ECONOMY, KITCHEN-TABLE ISSUES THAT ARE TOP OF MIND FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE AND FOR FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP HE'S ALREADY DOING IT, HE WAS DOING IT TONIGHT TRYING TO REMIND THE PEOPLE HOW STRONG THE ECONOMY WAS DURING HIS MANAGE AND ARGUING THAT ANY FAILURES THAT ARE HAPPENING THESE DAYS ARE BECAUSE JOE BIDEN IS IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND NOT HIM AND WOULD TAKE IT RIGHT BACK WHERE IT WAS SHOULD HE OCCUPY THE WHITE HOUSE AS PRESIDENT. I THINK WE WILL CONTINUE TO HEAR A LOT OF THE MESSAGING. THE VOTERS IN THE MIDDLE THAT THEY WILL NEED TO REACH WITH THAT MESSAGE. >> MEG, REPORTER OF THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. .. .. .. IT'S WAY MORE THAN THA. COMCAST IS PARTNERING WITH A THOUSAND COMMUNITY CENTERS TO CR