Anfield Opening Game LFC vs Brentford

n [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] big up big up big up and welcome to Liverpool 12 man show I am the liberal 12th man and I am joined today by the Irishman how you doing Irishman very well very well very well very well very well I hope you're doing well out there too oh I'm sorry say you want to say something no no you okay okay um I I was gonna say I hope that you're doing well out there too uh despite the fact of uh Arsenal um apparently yep they just went final not too long ago um two nothing victory for them unfortunately so it is what it is uh it's kind of funny that he has no end product you could say that possibly for Olli Watkins today I mean guy had an absolute he had an open goal what wide had a absolute sitter for a header ended up heading it right back into the middle of the goal and the goalkeeper makes a save on it um yeah and and uh and then then it got a little bit kind of um kind of a little sloppy I think I guess you could say for Villa's part they didn't really keep uh keep a hold of the ball really at the end of the game so kind of let one slot one slip out of their hands where they possibly should have come up with some type of result from this one but we move we move season big season for D it is a big SE it is a very big season you I I agree with that completely because like um they have they have quite a bit uh holding on their shoulders this year and it's going to be interesting how they navigate being in the Champions League this year I think so yeah should be very very interesting um big up to John Conway big up to Red Bird big up to MK toad in the house big up guy big up um big up to anyone that's uh hasn't commented but it's still just chilling maybe just on your drive or maybe you're at work or you know at uh at lunch or dinner or something like that um and you know what Edward I that was that was a show that we were supposed to do that was a show I wanted to do that I wanted to go into um into uh not only the new format and kind of explain how it all works but also um with the um I'm gonna go blank with the name of what they call it now where like uh the how they rank the clubs you know um my seedings or no it's the it of a C I'm think of I can't oh coefficient coefficient coefficient yeah yeah yeah yeah okay yeah so like explain that a little bit deeper and get into kind of because it is interesting how they how they do rank that how it puts you into like certain certain pots in essence you know and different groups I guess you could say and how and that like dictates the different teams that you'll play in the whole like format it's a very interesting format coming up this year one that I hope that uh take advantage of actually oh arm CH oh big up red arm chart arm shair excuse me supporter I like how he got he's got the new name I I'm so used to seeing YouTube name lately but now with the red arm chair supporter I like it all the same hash big up to you hash big up to you um I don't AR I think I'll just stick with red I think I'll just stick with red yeah to red yeah yeah so if I say red I'm talking to you yeah or or you could say Ross I'll say Ross too since it's our red armchair supporter so R Ross I like Ross Ross even though if that's some if the streets gets into into the chats he might think I'm talking about him too so who knows yeah on the streets will arrive yeah yeah um red uh Ross red says uh slot said he believes in the squad do you think he wants to see how he gets on with what he has then releas reassesses in January uh big up to Jimmy by the way big up to Jimmy hey Jimmy um I couldn't say it any better uh red for real like I know I got into somewhat of um some I was talking backstage with Brian I got into some heated exchanges uh on the beijan Reds um uh Friday night lime as they call it yeah yeah would have t yeah well I mean it's it is it is um it is appropriately uh titled line because there were certainly some Sour pusses on there there is certainly some Sour people on on on the panel in chat but um uh big up to Alexander big up to realis and Jared big up to all you guys um but why I'm saying what I want to say and I'll give briyan his his take too I really think that the whole like oh like slot's just saying that he wants to assess the team because like you know he's he's a comfy man or you know he's you know or he knows he should know what this team needs or this or that sometimes you like to see the players in person sometimes you want to see it with your own eyes you want to get a you want to get a like a an actual conversation with the and and develop a relationship so you understand if the player's able to you know uh break down what what you're trying to tell him if he's on board with the me message and and and uh Vision that you have for the team and if there W and if you really believe in that player can fulfill what you're putting in front of him and I agree that like uh you know I know um Lee said it uh early and I know Brian definitely uh co-signed on it and and and I am I I am open to believing that you know we could or open to understanding that we might wait until the January window um to assess this team properly because this team is a good team if it can stay healthy it is an excellent team um but it's a matter of staying healthy that's the big question mark so um if we can get by that it' be great but I mean like um you know I'm hoping that he does do what he can do with his team and and believe but we might see some we might see some late um late window uh transfers I mean it's not like it would be the first time we saw uh FSG or or or Liverpool bring in a late window transfer um acquisition do you have do you have a take on this Brian yeah it's not quite as positive but it's B it's like my my old fail safe is like well what else would he say he's not going to come in and say this s is TR crash the squad is useless we exactly you know we need yeah we need a ton of surgery if I don't get four we we forget about Europe you know he's come in and said look this is top quality Squad 7 what he said from day one only needs one or two hi Bernie only needs one or two bits and pieces so it it was never an overhaul it was never a complete rebuild we're doing all the background stuff which is funny like I said we're getting R we're get moving on getting rid don't take that majority we're getting rid of players that you know aren't really part of the future plan so that's all good and of course he's going to come in and say look I'm really really happy the squad but he's also come out and said that he wanted one right so you know um we'll watch and see and if we don't get it we we'll keep our fingers crossed because no Club ever no Club stops buying players every Club will you know keeps going we will bring in new players eventually it will happen eventually whether it happens in time for you know for some people but for me I'd want one or two in before the window closes but he's he's kind of com in and said look it's not being a yes man it's he was going to say that because that's the fact like if you wake up tomorrow morning and you've only got x amount of food in the cover what you going to be happy with that because you're not getting that's your only that's it that's all you're getting you know so he's going to say that to a degree but um he'll also be keeping an eye on his phone I think from Michael he was waiting for Texas to come into the training ground we've got something on the on the boil here and but again I think it would be right right it'll be a nice way of doing it I mean again it'll blow everyone's certain people not blow everyone um certain people will get angry at me going well [ __ ] it let's just run it then you know I mean if we're not going to be able to do it then let's just go with what we have and uh streamline it a bit which is what we're doing getting Ace tight Squad together everyone knows what their job is everyone knows that they're part of the team you know not this Chelsea stuff with 470 players out there you know we've got a tight Squad and then we can reassess it it's not ideal of course it's not but um I'm happy to go with what we have and sometimes that brings the best out of you know players that might not have been used previously I'm just looking for silver linings on it so I think that and also you know what I like too and this is something that I I mean like I just like when sometimes players take opportunities and make the most of them and you know and you're you're able to witness it you know in essence you know like but just didn't I was gonna say I'm sure most of us didn't think that K Quanza was going to be a Surefire player that could possibly be a starter on this team not many of us had that being oh he would surmount um Kate's place as being the preferred starter on this club you know but we witnessed that there were times when I heard people last year saying that Bradley should start yeah heard times last year when I heard Bradley should start over possibly one of the best right backs in the in the world in trenti that was going a bit far wasn't it the Bradley fever got to some people a bit most didn't it they were like s them we don't need Trent we have Brad calm down there calm down yeah I was just like whoa wait a minute you know got the best Bradley's play but hey let's uh let's pump the brakes you know yeah yeah the baby with the bath water you know yeah we we like I said last night when we were doing that thing where the guy had like you know the players and I was so I just love the fact that we've got one of the best in the world if not the best in the world and then being backed up by one of the best young right backs in the world one of the best up in common I think it's perfect I just love that we have because they're almost interchangeable in terms of the attack and output if you lower the the level of the team that you're playing against you know so um it but it was just like when we did the the BBD thing and we were laughing at your man putting in Trent or not Phillips but that is kind of where we are so we do we do need to have a double kind of um double fingers crossed for vbd if we don't sign right anybody so right right and and and don't get twisted we we I think we all would like to see you know quality players brought to the team absolutely you know I I think one of the things again I think one of the things we I tried to express intimately was that like when you try to have this conversation about Plan B as they put it because it was so funny like everyone brought up oh well we don't have we never have a plan B we never have a plan B and I'm like well wait a minute we went for casso we went for which could have be arguably Plan B but we went for both of those players and got ended up getting endo and end up getting a comparable uh uh DM for you know who who who definitely played uh played a valuable portion of of the season for us or part in the season last year now was that is that the end all Beall in the sense of saying Endo is the is the DM for the future going forward no I'm not saying that at all but what I am saying is that he played a part last year and he was he was a he was a decent uh stop Gap as people like to put you know for that position at the time you know um it's just a matter of like sometimes you hear these these like takes and you're just like they're not they're somewhat disingenuous with the the the way that they go about the things they talk about oh well you know uh we're depending on gra Birch and blah blah blah and all stuff about being the DM and then comparing him to um comparing him to I don't olvia and comparing him to all these different like players that from or T CH many was brought up at one point and I'm just like r b wasn't even with the team when when we won for to to many you know it's like let's get a little sense of like you know pushing the misinformation aside and kind of like have an honest conversation that's all well look I mean sometimes I know language can be I mean I was triggered last night by someone using the word h in terms one of my opinions and I've never said that word about anybody you know there can be a difference of opinion just because you don't rate somebody as much but a stop Gap is sounds a bit like I'd say more like a temporary sound harsh yeah words can sound harsh yeah a a temporary hire basically right you know a guy come in he can do a job like you don't get to come to Liverpool as some kind of uh Joker pick you know like you have to be able even an endo that comes in and is a temporary higher stop Gap uh whatever you want to call it um you still have to be at a level to play for Liverpool Football Club we don't just bring in randomers and buite them you know we okay it's it was no nobody had ever most people hadn't heard of the guy but we we brought in a guy you know we brought in a guy that's pretty much yeah look he's not in someone's I didn't say comparable I said comparable but like but he was good enough good someone that served a purpose and like served the role that we needed him it wasn't like it was a negative to have him in the position it wasn't like oh we're better off just playing someone else instead of utilizing Endo Endo he could get on the pitch that's what I'm saying you don't get on the pitch for your organ okay is he is he the best player we've ever bought absolutely not cor Seasons there 20 players we bought that are better than Endo does that make I mean but how many players are able yeah how many players are good enough to be signed by Liverpool in the first place by clock right you know so but again yeah he he is the guy that for me is the one that is you know he's the one that gets upgraded you know and that's your kind of main guy into squ your main transfer into Squad but this is all very Surgical and precise now at the moment and what we need and what we want so it's not a scatter gun approach and if you don't have a scatter gun approach you have that laser guided roach then you know you're not going to get linked with loads of names and we're trying to bring in loads of people right and I can get that too the argument was put out there like oh well Liverpool have gone into the market to get a six um uh went into the market multiple in multiple uh summer transfer summer Windows they've gone into the market to acquire a six and albeit they've gone into the market to acquire a six meaning that obviously they're trying to replaced the high quality world class at 1.6 that we had in Fab uh big up to guazi Big up to quasi my guy um someone smuggled someone smuggled a phone in quasi did they yeah don't get don't get caught with a phone in with the Contraband right you might end up in the hole man you might end up in the hole I put enough money on his books that he can make he can make calls so it's all good it's all good but um we um but we have tried to go into the market to get a six that's what I'm trying to get across and I get that we have incidentally incidentally before you move on from that had we gone and landed that 100 million kaiso deal right just say he had uh swerve Chelsea and gone yeah yeah I'll take some of that CL love you know I mean obviously it's it's just hypothetical but I mean he's not as super myy type right no he's not do you know I'm getting that I mean you put that conversation up you put that argument into the conversation and people all of a sudden scramble and start throwing out scatterbrain like style like uh deductions because you're right n like a good B like some of these players or some of these DMS we've gone for have been different styles of DMS and on top of that and on top of that this coach utilizes the six a little bit differently than originally klopp did and even when K adjusted and was trying to you know uh transition into a more um zubba meni style if you want to call it that you know kind of like you know a controller styled six that's what I'm calling it at least now I'm calling it a controller I think like what I like to look for where I think that this coach or this club is going with Direction with its six is having a player that control Tempo control can control the ball as in you can give him the ball whether it's whether it's from one box and be able to he can progress it from box to box but also be able to progress it through his dribbling or progress it through passing and I think that you can see that graen Burge has those skills so that's why I think he could be a good controller for our six not a destroyer not a destroyer not a because bring up bring up doesn't really play a six really anymore in in his career you know he used to be a he's played six at one point but doesn't really play a six plays more like an eight you know like but go ahead Jose what pops is saying there he said last season we would have won the league with kaisa now I think that's a show it's a very big show um it's a very big show for certainly it would have I was all far the um what would you call it the reuniting of cedo and mallister because as we've seen the success they've had they had a Brighton so now yeah I was being a little bit kind of um you know just I don't know what's word mischievous with that I have absolutely no doubt that if we had bought 100 million pound 110 million CIS last year uh arnest slot wouldn't be sitting there going what do you want me to do with this guy he would definitely know how to use him and get a out of I don't doubt it at all but I'm just wondering if he was on the market now uh would would slot want the Sayo for this role I'm not sure if he would that this is just getting into the Weeds on you know this is getting into the weeds H you know would he be the main type of role yeah yeah I know yeah I'm call myself uh yeah yeah yeah I know yeah yeah no I know I just I was kind of trying to I I think he definitely could I'm reading pops's points yeah they are it's his points that that I'm making out of um I just think it would have been interesting to see uh what slot how slot would use as I say though in this because he can kind of do more than just that but we I I I don't read like people like it really annoyed me when I mean it really freaking annoyed me way more than it should when after two games or three games like when laia was injured when he went to Chelsea and he got injured and he was sitting in SS people are like oh we dodged a bullet on him so what the hell are you talking about yeah hell are you talking I know I know he could still turn out to be an excellent footballer so can laia Lavia could be that's what I'm talking about Lavia that's what I'm talking about Lavia people I was say cedo too well Cav was more with the injury but like C you know yes yeah no so that's what I saying he was injured and people oh we dodged a bullet on him it's like the guy hasn't even played yet just because he's gone to Chelsea oh we dodged the bullet so like I wouldn't it's kind of like United at the moment like any player that went there went and they were like they look like [ __ ] I wouldn't really judge it too hard because it's Chelsea like there's a lot of really good players have gone there and look like absolute dog tart you know the same with man united it's they're bad broken clubs so this idea that oh look at him OB we dodge a bullet he hasn't been very good or he's been injured I don't know I I think he he would have been probably be prettyy good if he come to Liverpool you know the same with um the same with team of wner I ow Teo wner would have worked under club like he had a complete disaster iny I thought he probably would have worked well at our club klopp would have gotten the best at them you just sometimes you go to a different Club yeah um doesn't work out yeah it doesn't it doesn't necess always work out and you know and again you have to have play sometimes when you go for these players you have to have players that buy into the um into the direction of what the club wants like as in some players are going to get there and they're not going to do what you hear Trent say where he goes wherever wherever the the gaffer puts me I'm I'll play there you know what I mean some players are like you either play me at this position or you don't play me at all and you move me on you know so like um yeah I I'm interested to see what we can get from these players that I believe more so than not I mean winning certainly has an incredible effect on you when it comes to like uh you know improving your your confidence in in the team or in in the vision that that you're putting your um your worth into um so I'd like to see that actually uh be be put be put to uh put to question here um yeah yeah and mount just quickly pops the same Vernon gager Mason Mount too I think Pops I think he was would have been an absolutely brilliant player for C perfect Club Midfield but yeah but again Mason Mount has not not he's not been pulling up trees when it comes to uh you go to United know time at United he looks you know that transfer was just wrong from the start it just looked wrong from start was like he's he's going where yeah that's you know you know what Brian too there was so like I remember I I met one of my I met my uh he called himself I think Dr Doom he called himself or something like that like my Arch one of my Arch nem is Mike dos on on a beian red show and you know he was uh bringing up how like he's bringing up uh the fact that he doesn't think he's like a new coach isn't going to you know make a team play better and he's it's not going to do you know it's not going to make I I was like what are you talking about that's a silly silly silly comment of course a new coach a new coach is gonna gonna make a could make a team play better he can make a team play worse in that whatever he put whatever he's trying to make the team play or do as a tactician is gonna have an impact on the abilities or what you see on the pitch with the players you know so it's like kind of like a head scratch the take that that was going with but he was trying to say basically that you know that the um without new players kind of thing without right he was just basically trying to say that the new coach was going like as in if you think this new coach is all of a sudden going to bring about like an improvement on like uh availability an improvement on like you know on their Fitness and they anything I was like I think it will like different practice um mechanisms that they utilize you know um the intensity that they call for on the pitch whether it's during TR training or on the actual pitch the presence of like how you're trying to become more of a controller uh controlling um formation as opposed to a high intense always press press press press press it's not necessarily I guess in the way that we press now is we certainly still press but we press in a different different format in how we press we try to like force the pl we give the time from the force the second pass and then press it's like an interesting um process I've actually watched quite a bit of different um uh breakdowns on how the tactics are being done by some of the some of the one um station and channels that you recommend out there often as well so yeah just this like I was um someone was asking me last night like um trap Joe he was saying like why um he said I want why why don't you talk about tactics and I was saying look I used to be a lot more into tactics I was never a big tactics guy but I was a lot more into it um but these days because tactics and coaching and all that and everything goes has become so more kind of you know Hightech and you there's a lot more to it and there's a lot more involved in it I just kind of I'm not really able to to get to it at that level so I just don't really talk about it mainly because there's so many better people out there that know so much more about it and understand it much better than I do not even guys people that are in the chats people that come on channels so I kind of just have drawn back a little bit from it because some of the people out there if you get into a conversation with you realize you'll be in a conversation with someone who really knows what you're talking about and for me I don't really want to get too deep I like it I like it but I don't want to get too kind of deep deep into it because it yeah some of the stuff that they do these days yeah people be oh no this isn't when we counter breath that's when we counter breath and we do it from this own and that on okay cool I'm out I'm out you know it's like yeah yeah yeah no it's very interesting like how a lot of sometimes even even uh the the actual like uh visions that they have or or the actual tactics that they're used can change it can kind of like you know change on the fly at times you know with some coaches I like I like watching the breakdowns I like watching the breakdowns of and knowing myself what's going on but I don't like getting into kind of detailed discussion I feel you I I you know what Brian you know what I enjoy most is like when when people or some of the breakdowns that I watch or some of the breakdowns like the master classes that you that I that I watch sometimes um when they point out things that you might not have really recognized or maybe they point out things that the camera like the actual television camera that you're you know the feed that you're watching the the parts and points that you don't get to see you know I remember you talked about how there used to be on one of the channels that you watch over there um how that you could you could do like it showed you multiple angles of the pitch you know what I mean and you could get like a like the full ver ver vision of the pitch or you could possibly get like a more you know a focused player come you could get player come and all that stuff yeah yeah yeah I I I I like when that is brought because that answers a lot of questions of like how did that space open up what did that player do to create you know to um get past his guy you know what did like because like you might see the on the ball progress but a lot of the off theball work is important and people don't really sometimes give that credit that's unfortunate but you've also this the thing you've also got there's also so many people out there like pops are saying everybody now is an accountant and and this and that and um but there are also a lot of people uh also out there on YouTube who they they just they only watch smaller parts and there's nothing wrong with that you know that's what most people used to be they just used to watch the game on a Saturday there was no internet there was no media um world all around whether was the papers but the way it is now it's football 247 most people just just watch the game at the weekend and that was it you know they didn't really know about the training and the tactics and and all they really kind of there's still a lot of people out there that they just don't look they don't have time busy lives busy jobs and football isn't their be all an Endor so they want to watch the game have want watch the game enjoy yeah about it right be entertained and you know and then and then if not then they'll then you'll certainly hear about it but I agree I'm one of those guys last year I used to do uh tactics Tuesdays you know and like break down a lot of the stuff because I I enjoy enoyed figuring out like how our team was developing how what was making our team win or get from you know point A to point B in the progression of of the year I thought it was important so and I like sharing those those those kind that's why you need to balance that's why you need to balance like you can't have like something that's just all oh it's tactics and stats and tactics and stats like I think stats are there like you just said it like for me stats are there to answer question questions they're not there to tell you what this so if if it's like you're looking at some guy or you're looking at some going I'm thinking this I'm thinking that hang on let me look at the numbers on this and then the numbers can inform you you know what I mean I don't that's it's not the whole itest it's like for me stats are there to answer questions they're not something that you show me the stats show me the stats show me the stats no no look come on I want like as again as I've gotten older especially doing this show I've just gotten more into Focus now is learning as much as I can about the history of the game and things that have gone beyond to kind of inform how we've gotten to where we are because we didn't just arrive here yesterday we really didn't there's everything is a process and just I want to know how we got to where we are and why we like the most perfect example is the tiar HRI hand ball against irland leading to leading to FIFA um speed running um V into the game you know things like that like how we got to where we are is what really interests me now and watching the game of course but um that's me because like I say if I want to know talk tactics and all that there's people I listen to and go look I'll go to TF or I go to someone else and go these are the boys because they'll educate me I can't educate anybody when it comes to tactics I can maybe throw in some random trivia and things you haven't heard before but yeah I'm not going to be able to teach anybody anything no no I no I feel you I no I appreciate the um um the show as Pop said earlier I I did appreciate the show uh the opportunity to be online uh for some for certain aspects Alone um and because primarily because some of the the conversations that we had were were um shows that I wanted wanted to do but I they put we've been putting them on the back burner for a little bit for a little while and we haven't gotten to them one of the one of the shows I wanted to do was um I'm stating it now is that I wanted to do basically because I keep hearing this whole like and again this is why I tell you Brian why I brought that that word ambition up on Room 101 I keep hearing this word ambition thrown about so freely ambition is put to PR ambition is associated to pretty much everything that you hear when it comes to this team the owners when it comes to the players when it comes to even the fans at times you know and um and the the followup to that word was how Arsenal is an ambitious club and how they are the the basically the um basically the uh definition of what ambition is and I was just like okay I guess I mean like this is the same Arsenal that like you know hasn't won anything in the last I don't know how many how many years has it gone on now because they haven't won a trophy the only trophy that I think lost I think lost was still on the TV the last time they won something I think maybe like season two of The Office the original something like that there you go there I think yeah Bill Clinton I'm thinking Bill Clinton Bush that's what I'm thinking possibly you know like if it comes to if it comes to a real like a title title yeah like you know like the Prem title or something like that yeah I mean obviously they haven't they've never won any ever won a European campaign when it comes to like the Champions League so um so yeah but that's yeah what's amb 34 million on Mickey Marino tell me about tell me more about ambition I swear some some some uh some of the conversations get pretty funny get pretty pretty funny but yeah it um I I do have some uh I do have some really really cool um uh cool shows to bring into the into uh into the works I think because of these conversations because often you know facts are just that they're facts and it's um one of the facts is that um Arsenal until until late have definitely they've definitely raised their amount of money they've spent on the team but um that is taking a big big gamble taking a huge gamble on them winning progressively getting to a place where they win the title and actually increase their because they primarily sell they primarily and I'm not going to give away the whole entire show but primarily they focused or were reliant on ticket sales as being one of their biggest Revenue makers that sounds weird but it really was no that's why they built that Stadium yeah that's and then they had to pay it off so they took a big gamble by building a big stadium and then they had to pay it off right and then then they had it's like it's it's interesting when you hear the ambition thing sometimes when people try to break down the numbers I'm like I don't think you like and I'm and I'm not saying that I'm some like you know accountant or something like that but I've I've actually seen and and been I've been um humble enough to listen to those that do know and and hear how it is broken down to understand oh now I get it that kind of way but but they the the thing that always kind of I found funny and it isn't funny I thought they did something that we couldn't do for a long time they did but they um they they had this whole thing about you know finishing forth was the main thing because basically Banger said to those guys or those guys said to Banger look uh we're going to build our own stadium and we're going to pay for it which means you can't buy players basically right for like 20 years nearly and he was like right okay cool he kind of signed up for that he he went with that and no one's ever really done that um that much but they were their whole thing was they always qualify for the championsship they went from being Vieira and bur camp and HRI putting it up to United to be in we're going to do this and once that's done it's going to be 10 years of H but then we'll be super cool after that they always qualified for the champion that was their whole thing but I've never known a club any club and I'm not slagging them off but this qualified for the Champions League so often and been in there so many times that's had so little impact on the club that's that's such a big you know not even to go I mean they got that one final against um Barcelona and that's pretty much it they have their European Cup history is is comedically T it's it would be hard it's it's almost difficult to have this level of you know not even a couple of other final appearances on top of what they've had you know just absolutely nothing one of the biggest clubs in England and their inability to even get near it like Chelsea shamed them like Chelsea have won more EUR Chelsea have won I don't like saying it but they've won some European cups it's not nice to say but I mean Arsenal's inability to even touch the side when they had that great team via bar Camp HRI it's it's just strange I don't know what it is I always choke I just said they're allergic to Europe they are just allergic Europe Cup they just are there's something about it there's something about their allergy continu I hope thaty and and let me just say this my disdain for the gooners as pops was just putting out there is primarily because if you ever talk to aunar aunar will try to I still call them Gunners by the way I still call them Gunners I don't know when they start to call themselves gooners I still call them Gunners to me okay okay um Gunners gooners whichever is your preference gooners gooners means something very very different these days just in case anybody know I don't know I don't know what that means but okay well what I was before before we get like censored um is just going to say that uh my disdain it for for gooners or Gunners is because when you talk to um an Arsenal supporter often they will they will try to Sun you as we say here U on the side of the pond um they will try to basically like speak in a way that they as if they as if artetta is Reinventing football they'll they speak to you as if Etta's won multiple titles they'll speak to you as if artetta is even at the time was at the same level as a clock they'll speak to you as if Arsenal is on the same level of a Liverpool and it's like where are we at with this conversation am I like which did I did I do a Quantum Leap or something and fall back in like 2004 or something or you know like where what are we talking about here this is not this is not this is false equivalencies do not equate to a good conversation that's at least how I look at it but it is what it is I guess big up big up fair play pops you know he is right like one of my best mates um you know like those friends that you meet kind of slightly you know you have your best friends from when you're younger but you meet people later in life so one am I kind of later life best best friends is a huge Arsenal fan and he is nothing like those people he's absolutely nothing like those people oh absolutely I have I have some really nice Arsenal Surs I understand what you mean yeah yeah but they're they they're sparse hey nor yep yep oh I'm sorry I didn't mean to cut across you I don't know if oh no no no what yeah I was just agree I was just agree with you you're right yeah um yeah big up to nor by the way joining joining the conversation I'm sure he's pretty stoked that he'll probably that he'll be going most likely to the game tomorrow um keep your eyes keep your eyes open for Uncle Albert Uncle Albert's GNA be at the game tomorrow yeah Uncle Albert's gonna be there too that's what I heard he made sure to point to drop that to make sure to tell us that he was so big up to him as well hope that he enjoys the game I hope that you all get to see a win along with the rest of us as well so um uh oh yeah yeah what they did to Ian is gonna be there as Ian Mack he's not in tonight but he was in last night Ian Mack is gonna be there I gonna be there yes and he said he was GNA take some uh some picks some snaps for us that we can show that be cool too be really really cool when um if he's able to um to get Norman you do the same man you do Norman too send them to 12 man on Twitter if you know someone El Twitter or if you have it yourself get some snaps from the game we can make it a regular thing uh from the home games anyone that's there take a few pictures and send them to 12 and we can show them on the the game review or whatever you know the that that show we can put them up yeah yeah I did I did mention quum leap by the way Norm I did but um yeah Ian watch Ian watch yeah definitely yeah I used to love it when he dropped into uh Sports people I used to love it when you drop into a like a baseball player up at the plate you know it's like and he looks up and it's like the whole you know the class bottom of the 12th and all that stuff he used love when he did Sports guys um what a weird Series yeah very weird series um well did he ever get home did he ever get home I actually if you watch it did he ever actually leap home in the end just no that's Norm I know Norm he watched it pretty religiously um did he did he ever get home Norm I know they have a new there's a new Quantum Leap too now oh D there is a reboot of it yeah a different guy he's like um yeah alone an Asian lad that plays the part of the leaper um but um but the other the other guy made the show the guy that's in like oh yeah yeah you know what he wasn't in that show what was what was the show he played in I was gonna um H he played he played in another series before quanum leap too that he was pretty good in as well I can't remember I he's in loads of stuff yeah he's a real good like character actor kind of plays weirdos and stuff yeah no he didn't apparently no he never got to go home Sam oh wow okay oh wellow that's unfortunate see that's the TR the inventive show that's a truly inventive show so stop trying to reboot things and just piggy back on stuff make your own new shows like people us I know that is very true that is very true I agree with that completely right I'm gonna do uh we are going to do a player and game review after the well after the game well technically yes after the game but not immediately after the game we'll be doing it we I like to do um game reviews the day after because what I do with there are at least on my part on my game review is I know often we can get rushed into the emotions of the game and kind of like you know just kind of focus in on like certain parts and points but not like see other things that were a part of the game and part of the um you know the buildup or whatever it is you know and um I like to watch the game a second time I like to watch it especially when we win I do watch the games even if we lose it it's not easy but I do watch them back even when we lose um but um I might hit fast forward a couple of times but I mean like uh but I do watch on and then by that I I'll like uh get a good good read on like you know a little unbiased read on it especially like because you know when you're at like maybe like your local pub you know and you're watching the game you might get rushed into the emotions or you kind of get like influenced by by your surroundings into like possibly thinking oh that was worse than it really was and then when you're actually able to watch the second time you be like oh okay I get why he did that or oh oh that was you know that was because of this or that so we will be doing a player uh review for sure um yeah Wayne's World Wayne's World all right so um let's get into some excellent um uh picks here I'll bring this up here as well um I'm going to show you my picks I'll allow for Irishman to kind of like um you know pick and choose what he would have done different on the Fly here um if that's okay with you Irishman yeah give you a chance of telling because I know you like to you don't always go with the the uh with the selections that I do and I want to be sure to give you the proper uh be able to give you what it is so this is my predicted lineup for tomorrow um I have basically a good number of the players that we did see starting against ipswitch it's it's almost like a reprint of the um of the starting lineup except for I did start ebo in this game um I was I want to start and I'll be honest with you I do want to start um Nunes in this game um only because I'd like to see him draw off of the energy but then again I could also see him being a sub in this game uh and saying J wasn't in training what's that people were saying J was wasn't in training was that does anybody in the chat know about that because people were saying that J wasn't seen in training that's that's the cas that's not thing that's not I was I was waiting for an update on that because I was watching yeah beijan pops and Barnes earlier on and Chris came in and he said no no J in training or J not seen a training now sometimes that just means that the pictures don't show them right whatever they were watching didn't show them right and I kind of looked on Google on Twitter just to see you know J LFC I didn't see yeah I see Pop saying he already was and he wasn't so yeah so he heard both things people saying he was people saying he wasn't so yeah I know does anyone know the reasons why he wouldn't possibly be in there yeah so just say going with let's just say for the sake of argument let's just assume he is fit because there is no thing there is no confirmation that he's out I I'd go with that I I would go to I would go with that yeah I didn't hear about any I didn't get an update on any injury for um for Diego I can double check and make sure but I didn't didn't see any or hear about injuries that's the thing I was it was a bit vague at the time and I didn't see anything coming up like jot out kind of [Music] thing um let me see uh but uh again I went well as I look this up for you guys I have uh Diego starting obviously if Diego is unable or isn't going to be available for the club um that'll be that'll again be very very uh troubling because you know um he's a player that's gotten arrest he's a player that you know um uh it'll just bring up the the doubters and the and certainly the the the certain haters as well that will come out to say that he um you know he can't stay fit move move on let's move on let's move on from but um especially someone that did score in our first game and has looks like he has um some form together he look brilliant look brilant don't you not drop you don't drop him you do not drop him yeah Baron or pops is right it's too early man like and I know you're saying the haters and all that but it's sort of like well they can turn and say well is he or is he not injured today if he is injured it's like no no we do not need this we we've been saying it like he uh with full season to degree no I think it's speculation I think it's speculation Liverpool on Liverpool FC they do give like they do give injury updates and the only injury update that they have that was updated as as of yesterday at least was uh for K Quanza it says the center half was forced to mist trining on Wednesday due to an injury head coach Arie slot on August 23rd unfortunately I think it was Tuesday that he picked up a bit of an injury so he couldn't train on Wednesday let's see if he can train today meaning um on 23d that's when um he was giving that update um as of right now that's the only um names on the actual um on their official you know website style um yeah so we go we'll work on the the assumption that CH is fit in terms of team team um picks we'll work on the Assumption he is fit so yeah if anything you know what if he was or if he isn't um you know look uh I'd like to see Nunes um get get some playing time in this game um he was if he was or if he's not was but if let's say he's like you know he he's fit to play but he's not necessarily you know you want to kind of monitor his minutes type thing then let's get him in there let's uh let's see what he can do and then you know and then bring Nunes that's the that's the great thing about having the uh the depth that I believe that we have at certain areas at least and being able to say okay well then yeah Nunes is someone that you could see you know Play Play that um that front nine for us so I that I'd like to think so I mean yeah but you go go through go through your your picks yeah I know that um I know that I also have Quanza still on the bench yes but I think that if it was questionable on the 23rd chances are he would most likely I think I don't know if anyone saw him in training or not but um but I do do have him as a selection on the bench for us um I don't like that Norman I don't like that Norman is saying that he said there the club are do Morton and bedich all missed the under 21s and that all three are for sale like permanently they're look I mean oh is that what he's saying yeah btic I think I mean at 19 years old that's just way too young especially from what we've seen from the player it's kind of way too young to give up on a player like that I think personally but is that I'm just wonder Norman I mean is that kind of the word on the street kind of thing or is that just what you're hearing around the ground I'm just I'm not saying you know you're you know what your sources you know I'm just wondering um I would be disappointed if we if we did sell uh sell Stefan yeah yeah I know that you're hot on um on on btic as well um um yes and Harvey Blair did get moved on um I was just about to put up um the sale was for what is what is somewhat um not meager meager pennies to most of us but certainly in terms of football uh 310,000 uh pounds is definitely a small number uh for a transfer and I do believe that the with the add-ons and everything else it could go up to and they are um reachable add-ons it could go all the way up to 600,000 and they do have a sellon clause as well if he is to be sold to go on I'll go ahead Brian and then I'll go that's the mbappe money yeah definitely um yeah I picked uh P I picked excuse me h ptic i g say ptic I picked uh Dom and I picked uh graa and I picked um and I picked mallister I also picked the front line of uh Lucho say what you will about Lucho but I still think Lucho is the is a um is the choice at left wing for us um I didn't I didn't I think hacko got on but he kind of looked I don't know he kind of didn't look like he was really in the groove of the game when he got into it so hopefully he continues to work back towards his form that we saw in new Ys um I have Diego starting and I have Mo Salah the Egyptian king starting up front what do you have what do you have different on on this lineup Ryan tell us where tell us who or what you would have different in the in the chat too if this isn't your starting 11 share with us what it is what is you could just say you know rather than have to starting 11 you could just say if it is it probably is very similar you could just say hey you know I don't know uh Nunes in for jat or or hat excuse me you know or you could say Cody in for Lucho you know just just you can give you can give us that way too so we can get you don't you don't have to get the entire 11 but what is your what is your predicted lineup Brian how how much different or how much I'm not CH I'm not CH this is the one I gave AR on to the boys um I was on their show and they put this was their lineup this is barnes's lineup this is Pop's lineup this is my lineup as well again I said basy don't don't change no need obviously with Ebu in for K Quanza being the kind of type of change you know I'm assuming that he will start but other than that I wouldn't I I don't want to change it this too early for rotation it's too Eary for we're going to do this we're going to do that I mean that team if they can play like the second half for most of the game I I don't see the need anywhere I like like I'm saying the idea of a tight Squad where you pretty much know 90% of your St at 11 every single week and it'll just be might be this guy might be that guy like nobody out there other than obviously jel which SLO came out today and he talked about kind of played their way out everybody had a good yeah again really poor in the first half but maybe Dominic didn't have a brilliant game but I I don't see anything changing other than this whole Jada thing I mean to me they're all you know keep keep it tight go with the same team and get get guys who know that we're pretty much we're the starting 11 and one or two maybe changes the Nunes thing if J is out yeah I was kind of a little bit backing against I was going back against Ebu in my prediction when I saw because we were talking about the F FPL teams and how Canady was the only person with nunz in his team last week who started the season with nunz in his team and I was like kind of joking about how he didn't get the memo now Canady sold Nunes today for uh CA from wolves so I was kind of half backing against Canady and thinking he's that that means nunz is going to start he's playing some games um but yeah he's he's kind of she shipped him out so maybe looks like that's not going to happen maybe Nunez doesn't get a start again but I don't see how you dropped it J looked too good what are you going to say to him oh I'm going to play Darwin CA whatever no man which sh is fit get him in the groove M and keep them scoring goals definitely the team is perfect I think team is perfect yeah I I think that I think I there is there was the um a mention by Bernie that said that she said that slot uh hinted at um Gomez might be might might play tomorrow um if that's the case maybe it could be maybe they you know don't uh maybe they don't push K Quanza into into you know into a spot of if he did get a bit of a of a knock then you know let's not put you put you onto the bench and let's not even like rush you back to uh service let's give you a couple days off and that's the that would be the benefit of having it Gomez remain with the club to be honest with you I mean I think she said yeah same North but he know decent offers Joe would feature yeah feature just means being on the bench though yeah you know feature just means you might get five minutes yeah like I think stick with that team keep it as it is get it in a Groove and keep winning games keep Jada scoring goals all that stuff and then just change it as you might need to be but oh red red red red orange Char supporter Ross saying the the farewell Cameo maybe be hard say or not say but just just the thought that's that's sad and it could it very well could be very well could be give like give him like the last five 10 minutes at least to like you know to the to to if he has a transfer lined up if he has a transfer lined up and he's going somewhere he won't play you won't B yeah no mostely you don't you don't want to take that chance don't get injured yeah you go out and you do oh 5 minute Cameo and some idiot CLS you and breaks your ankle yeah transfers off dude yeah yeah yeah know you got to be realistic in the world um so yeah so yeah so you're going with this you're going with basically the starting same as exactly same um and again if if um with the bench uh is that bench okay with you I know K Quanza is um you know I know he was the only name L still on this um injury list as of the 23rd of August um and I don't know if anyone saw K Quanza in you know the behind the scenes or you know on the pitch type thing um so if he was I that would make sense to maybe take K Quanza out and put Gomez in but basically keep that same um same nine as your uh posses yeah he probably liked what he saw from EO uh you know a lot of players would be like this is a new chance now for me to do something that would be it's a home game as well you know so we not so much kind of um worrying about what they're going to do but again brenford are a good team but I think look I couldn't change it I couldn't change any of it you know I really couldn't because especially there's no one on the bench that says uh oh I'm fit now and he wasn't great last week so like Dominic didn't have an amazing game last week right okay but he came into it but is it like is Jones they I think they are yeah you're right that's what I'm saying but like is Jones or Elliott saying oh get me on get me on I have to play I don't know but we'll see this will tell because we don't know slot you know slot is new yeah so like that's why I think the first five games are very important Brian don't you agree yeah exactly because like with Klo pretty much if if everybody which they never were but if everybody in the first team was fish you could really easily Pi like you could pick his first team every day the week you could pick the formation and you could pick the players I mean angelotti made a point of it now it's sometimes it's a good thing sometimes it's a bad thing you know you know you don't need to go and spy on Liverpool to find out what they're going to do at the weekend because you know what they're going to do at the weekend they won't change they were always the same it was now we will see what a a slot is like we could see tomorrow and then all of a sudden oh we're all idiots he's starting Elliot Simas and gakpo you know but we just don't know we don't know yet what kind of coach is with this Liverpool team there is there is there is um by the way I like n's prediction he's saying he's he's Mystic Meg he says it's going to be a z z last minute uh tomorrow Gomez comes on Corner top end it's played in Gomez on the volley one nothing now he's woken up that'd be great that would be be that would be an epic epic uh result and also if we were to move on from Gomez by the way I think there I I think it was Bonkers uh I want to make sure I give proper credit to who said it earlier but um I don't uh I don't think that it's too off based to think that we don't put in a offer for uh a center back especially if we are gonna uh move on from Gomez and um oh was Bonkers yeah I gave this comment said Liverpool are preparing surprise viid for Jared BR waight um ah head of next week's transfer deadline according to the Daily Express not reputable not reable so there you have it I don't I don't know Everton look in trouble to be honest with you they look like they are in trouble we might we might have we might have um neglected to put um D in that in that um in that first to get sacked category because he was up there yeah you see if you're a club like them what are you GNA do you know if someone puts 70 million on the table for a kid like that who like we said before isn't your uh Star Center half Star Center star Star Striker or star kind of you know attacking midfielder guy you know it's look we we'll get a new guy we'll get a new center half we'll do whatever you really can't so but uh we were not interested in him that's what the other guys said Romano said uh there's no interest from us in KK okay oh so he shut down you did hear a report that he shut that down I got you oh zero yeah nothing that's not a thing and uh napy don't want to sell him anyway so right right I think didn't they re just resign him to a new deal or something like that yeah he's like don't be surprised if we would do something yada yada yada but but that's not the one that we're going to do no KK no but everybody everybody is very saying this is not going to happen I'd be kind of in that boat I think it's maybe the kind of deal that considering their financial [Music] problems probably would have been done already we probably could have gone and done that deal you know given the fact that they needed money we wouldn't have been leaving until now I don't know why we would leave this till now can I ask you this then can I ask you this how would you feel and tell me in the chat too again like I know some some channels don't include the chat in the conversation uh this is not that channel [Music] um what now I'm trying to think of best way to put this but what would you feel how would you feel if Liverpool were to virtually spend about the same amount of money on Jared br br weight right as they did for a virgal vendik now I understand inflation and all those other different con all those other different factors have to be put into it but just the number alone that's the number that most people are going to hear they're going to say that and they're going to say oh it's like you spent almost the same amount of money on this player as you did for roer van djk but I wouldn't go as far as to say this is a viral Van Dyke player as of yet I don't know what what his ceing is I don't know where where his career is going to go but let's you he's not Roo Van Dyke [Music] um how would you feel about that would you be okay with that no I wouldn't be okay at all you think you know I'd rather spend the inflation football inflation adjusted version of that to go out and buy an actual van djk now you know so say 75 million when we bought van djk what six years ago is whatever it was that's probably that will probably be 120 in today's market so I'd rather just go out and do that rather than buy a young Prospect I mean how could you spend that money on somebody who isn't like uh again we talk about prices and transfers but if it's not the players's fault but if the club believes that the club that the players worth that amount of money then he should be a plug and play player this isn't like oh we bought this guy give it a year no no no sorry stop right there if you got that kind of money then you buy a plug and play player no ifs but and maybe the only thing is injury and the usual transfer CH but in terms of quality experience ability uh no he's he's going straight in the first team so I'd rather just go and do that which it looks to me like it is not going to happen in the defensive area it really like the only the only real genuine talk about anything is zui and I'm not even sure we're going to do anything now at this stage but the the the likes the likelihood of us buing a center half I think probably would be completely dependent on Gomez leaving I don't think there's no chance going and spend you know close to ER record fee MH on a on a bloody brand weight not even a mar gay just absolutely no how about for what Norm is suggesting he prefers nasio yeah I think there's guys out there on the continent and it's not because they're flashy names or foreign names or different names but that they are potentially again every transfer is a risk but potentially Jose as good as the likes of the gay here or rway that shouldn't cost you more than 50 30 40 50 that kind of price range like brand weight is pure Prem tax that's pure Prem tax you know like United had a bid turn down from a while ago you know uh big big big money you know we don't need to go near that you know that's like saying this guy is the elite he's the only Center out there that can move the needle FR us no chance you then sack your scouting Network s sack your data Department sack your analytics if he's the only guy out there and you have to go and spend 70 million on him absolutely no chance you know all over the continent there's probably 20 players right now that have just as much ability and uh potential as somebody like him and you could get them for a fraction at a price yeah yeah I agree I I I I I also like uh I was putting my opinion out there that you know it'd be great to see us go for a big name and and you know that kind of quench the The Thirst of us getting a transfer for those out there um but uh it also could be good that we you know if we go for maybe one or two players that are just ex good players not maybe not like top tier players but they're just good additional players that we're bringing into the squad that' be you know whether it means for cover or whether it means for um for depth that that could be um that could be something that could be utilized as well but but you're with me on this a like if you're going to go out and spend call it 70 on a brand weight I'd rather go for paston but exactly just spend 90 on B yeah I I don't think you have to spend 90 I think you can get it for you put 75 million pounds on the table I think you could get a Baston I honestly but yeah say if it was so basic say just like say whatever bran weight was Baston was another 20 I say just go out and do the best only thing that's what I mean the vbd bit just go out and buy that guy cuz if you're going to spend a huge number on a kid just spend a little bit more and get the real deal the the finished article as much as you can you know that's really what I yeah no projects um but yeah this guy is Ping the sky the brand weight to Liverpool thing is absolutely ping the sky to I couldn't see it milon years they talking about Gomez plus 20 million for bran weight are you talking about is that what you're trying to say we were talking about that last night Gomez plus money in swaps and we were kind of thinking well like to me the gayi one would be the most obvious Gomez to to Crystal Palace yeah plus plus 20 million quid yeah because you get that's that's him going back to London that's him yeah but I don't think he wants I don't think he goes to Everton I don't think he wants to go there yeah I don't think he would go there um 38 million is to buy out clause for anasia um doesn't sound I mean if that if that's the bio CLA I'm not saying it's not but I'm saying um you know if that's the bioc clause and we haven't pulled the trigger on that one then it you doesn't it yeah it kind of tells you that that's not the guy I mean that's a relative steel uh like what are you waiting for what's gonna happen that yeah um is good in the air but nasio is a much better player in every other area and I I'll definitely take a look at that Norm I'll definitely take a look at that I'll look at some of the stats for those things we had a center back breakdown episode um we could do another one as well now that some of the uh some of the players have changed and names or names that are interested in the interested parties that were interested in or have changed but again I I'm I'm very interested in what we can do I I put it out there time and time again when I hear about about the I I spoke about earlier too um the whole like plan a plan B that kind of stuff I just think that our plan B was always like just you know going with what we have that maybe I know people don't want to hear that being our plan B but um you know it's obviously a possible consideration by not only the club but an acceptable uh you know um acceptable uh set of circumstances for this coach that you know is he says he has he has like uh he has some say in in like in what is being brought to the club so it's not like he's just sitting there and just taking whatever meal is served to him he's uh he does get to put in some items into the into the uh order yeah yeah definitely what do you have for oh go ahead no I just mean he's yeah it it isn't definitely it's not like um The Real Madrid version or whatever which is yeah normally okay because they're buying top players it's normally okay it's not a problem but it will be interesting to know how much of a say he does actually have because yeah you know they do have the input and they like like as as um Ian graah said and Ian graah was like the head of this [ __ ] he said look kpp always had the last say right and and more the way he said it it made it sound like he had the final veto as in terms of like he could say no and they just wouldn't it wasn't in terms of like he had the kind of the biggest yes if that makes sense right no I get it similar to what Mella or something like that like I know he initially wanted a different player but I don't think he's I don't think was like intimately like no I don't want I don't even want mosalah here but like he yeah because Ingram was saying like look don't get it twisted if Jurgen klopp was turn around saying I don't want that player then they wouldn't decide them right they never would have signed him but right probably probably Brian could you possibly even say because of maybe the the the uh U the relationship or or just the the previous um history that they had with Rogers you know like I mean Brendan Rogers are part of that transfer committee and I mean like if Brendan Rogers did not like you or he didn't want want you at the club or you know he would do his way he'd go about being his stubborn self in playing you in positions you don't want to play in or letting you ride the pine you know basically I they say hey yeah it was yeah I think it was a lot of learning was going on um and klopp was used to the system but it was just basically What What In gra was saying that they never imposed a player they never forced him to take a player that he V did not want I think maybe what it came down to was the fact that the three players on the list that they were going to pick from may not have had his number one guy on it which is what I'm saying didn't have an overwriting yes but he definitely did have a no he could say no I we're not buying that guy whereas they wouldn't turn and go okay well this is the only guy orgon want so we're going to go and get him maybe it was more of the collaborative was look we've all come together and these are the three guys maybe maybe jurgen's number one choice isn't on that three more often than not it probably was one of the three but the idea then was that's where because Julian brand wasn't like a bad player it wasn't like he was a bad player exactly dude we're not out there going oh well I want to buy freaking I don't know name some crap player you know that wasn't a thing right it was arguments about who's the better brilliant player that we want to buy right and like that's where the discussions would have come into now I think um without wanting to make this sound like because this is gris to the middle to the yes-men people but arnna slot will definitely be less of a voice problematic yes it' be less problematic it comes to getting yeah yeah I mean he's not jgen klopp I me jgen klopp is freaking Tom Cruz over here he's Robert toiro I mean AR slot is you know that guy from that thing you know he's that guy who played the guy and you know it's sort of what's his name you know maybe in a few years AR thought will be a big name but klopp B box office that's why we loved him there you go there he had he had more power you know so that that's also let me say this that's Brian saying Tom Cruz is is the same as Robert dairo I it was I don't yeah you know what I'm saying in terms of I know who's famous now I'm old who's a famous actor now I know freaking who's like a big guy now all the kids would say I don't know whoever all the kids would say right now um the guy that guy from that name with his name I can tell you some of the actors that they what movie they played in but not the name of the actor too so I forget his name the one guy that played in he's very shalam he's big right people oh Timothy shalam is definitely big and especially with the kids especially yes there you go but look yeah klopp can you imagine I mean maybe um this isn't a problem the guy plays tour he's he's very big too he's oh Helms man thing yeah guy who married to Miley Cyrus or his brother was because no one's quite sure which one it is yeah yeah I just think like this isn't am I this going to sound kind of evil and like some of the stuff that I don't like about football but if you got a head coach and you got three or four guys out there that are really the best in the world identifying talent and bringing it to the manager's door and saying these are guys we can sign and we we sifted through you know all the players and these are guys we can bring in like you you concentrate on coaching the team because you're brilliant at that that's what you're brilliant as you know and you do the 190 minutes every Saturday so okay we're bringing you in the these guys like I'm kind of okay with that I know it's a new way of doing with it well it's not that new but it's not new on the content at all but when it's done right and you've got serious people in charge making proper decisions I I'm kind of okay with that I want if you have an elite coach with an elite recruitment team and an elite uh football director then shorty that should all work you don't need a manager who is brilliant at identifying players a manager who wants to run everything from top to bottom you don't really need that because clubs are so big now when clubs are smaller and more centralized you could run a club a manager could run everything it's like these days if you want a manager to be involved in everything it's like well okay we've got a meeting in Japan about commercial no it's impossible it's impossible impossible it's impossible those those days I I I'm telling you there's um there was I don't know if you ever got to that um interview with King Kenny but there was a King Kenny interview and he was speaking about how like you know he used to he likes to go and go to the games and and watch the Players and like kind of get like you know again assess the players with his own eyes you know and um they were just speaking on how that day of those days of you know you getting evaluations on players like that are pretty much like not happening any longer like you don't really get too often the head coach going and wa and sitting in the stands and watching a game no you just don't really get that too often um by the way let me bringing this up too Norm's got a uh um an advisory there um for for um those out there that might want to go to the game or or ever plan on going to the game lots of Fate ticket scamers selling for games tomorrow online please do not buy from them buy from you know authenticated sources by the way definitely definitely do that um don't want to see you get scammed um and it sounds if it sounds good to be true yeah it most likely is it most likely is I mean let me get into let me get into um into the score predictions here and who we have scoring then for our home opener it's a home opener um what are your score predictions in the chat what are your score predictions yourself Irishman what do you have uh us getting um involved in tomorrow I'll go with it I go go a three 3-0 I think it looks like a 3-0 it feels like a 3-0 it's got one of those may they might get one but I'm going for a strong home and I'm going for a much improved performance starting you know much earlier than than that but they will this is the good thing I've always said this about brenford um they play football yeah they will come give you a games so it won't be no low block stuff which might suit a Darwin you know better than a j if if J isn't 100% fit yeah might you know Darwin in behind with a team that's prepared to push up and you know take chances like brenford know their season is not going to be defined on whether they win or lose at anfield right so they can just come and have a go why not they've got another they'll stay up and they'll be fine so they'll come here and they won't go oh sit in Lads whatever you do don't l no come on man go out there and maybe score a goal at the cop end you know there'll be Liverpool fans in that brenford team maybe have a goal Ani score a goal there you know they will there will be yeah there will be some there will be some won't be afraid I like playing brenford I like playing them I've always said I like playing them purely the Thomas Frank version because usually it's we get some so many grinder games against teams that don't want to play and uh they they're a bit refreshing so it does doesn't normally work out very well for them but on their day they can cause people problems uh they went Tre up against ars no still I'm going with with Tre Nills so for game yeah looking for a good game um I'll let you think about who you want this who you think could possibly score go through the chats go through the chats red armchair supporters got 2-1 to Liverpool um let's see Bernie's got 2-1 to Liverpool uh Phillip's Scot big up Philip by the way um same scorer as uh ipswitch so he's got it two nothing to Liverpool yeah okay okay um who do you see who do you have scoring for us then in your three nothing and tell us who you have scoring in your two nothings and your two ones yeah I'm going to go with some obvious ones I think uh I got to go with j and Salah again he's just so inevitable really you know it's it's the first game of the season at anfield yeah I think he's yeah he's a nailed on J if it this is what we want to see him scoring two in a row and then just kicking on from there so who else I'll give it to I'll give it to Trent I'll give it to Trent okay so okay off a free kick or is it off an open Play yeah yeah yeah off a free kick yeah off a free kick yeah that makes sense then yeah um let's see let's see red armchair supporter says he's got Diego Mo and um [ __ ] right is that how you say his name right buo yeah everybody's hot I like to see it I like to see it Sal to keep it going start off the season score home and away I just keep banging in goals that'll be brilliant uh their there their Center forward is on um on a on good forum too um Visa he was like I think looks like they're trying to get rid of Tony looks like I mean like they're I mean I mean they're like again their Center forward is playing well at the time and he was I think because he was on the I think he was on the fantasy football like team of the week or something like that last week um let's see let's see that's this about Center half from Oh I thought maybe Jimmy has a 3-1 to Liverpool okay yeah um Mo and Lucha for Bernie uh oh is that I didn't see Bernie's comment Mo and Lucho I see it right there she's going Mo and Lucho got you nice I like it Bernie I like it Bernie um could be some space for uh could be some space wide if they play with three at the back yeah yeah that could that could a 352 sometimes yeah sometimes they do yeah they move that player up yeah yeah [Music] um I am thinking geez because brenford does have some you're right they do have they do like to play um I would like to see us get a clean sheet I want to I would like to see us get more clean sheets this year than you know um than anything Ali and birds are both fish home clean sheet is looking good I I still think it's looking good yeah I think we're gonna get the clean I I'll go with the clean sheet um and I'll go with i i really want to say four or nothing to be honest with you I know that's a high score I know that's like us dominating um I just have a feeling that I I have a feeling that Lucho will score I like your your shout for for Mo but I have Lucho scoring I have IBU scoring off a corner I have he hasn't scored in a long long time and I think that this would be like it's been a while yeah I think this will be another like this an opportunity for him to kind of like be like hey I need to be in this first team uh lineup list more often um I saw him score I just quickly interrupt I I saw him score from a corner about a couple of months after he joined us and he just sort of like walked into the box and just pushed people out and just nodded and just dominated everybody one against City you mean do that do that every week yeah why can't you do that more often he just walked up and went get out of my way bang yeah he completely dominated everybody in front of him was like what this we've been getting a lot of Corners that's why like we've been definitely for the number of Corners that we get we need to get some better you know better result if Virgil had end product he'd have about 20 goals a season I'm only joking but yeah the amount of headers clean free headers that Virgil gets from Corners he could score obviously yeah and with a brace from from Darwin oh how cute why not cute I know yeah show show my Nunes my my Nunes Army love still loyal to well let's see if he gets look if he gets on the pitch if he starts yeah yeah yeah you know if if he start game he can score a bunch in in in a short span you know we see him score but I was working off the same criteria as from the team pick assuming that J is fit yeah yeah you know I'm assuming J I'm thinking that Nunes if Nunes does get uh reason I pick Nunes for a brace May because maybe just as you said you know maybe they're pressing they're pushing forward trying to get a goal you know they're going to have they're not going to be able to just if if they get if they go down early they're going to have to press and push forward for a goal um to get one back if not two back and at that point I think that you know that back line if if it is a back three as you suggested you know might be at a little bit of a tired spot and you have the pace and the intensity of Captain Chaos as some people call him but um I like to call him the invasor uh getting opportunities to really you know but this is the thingst a couple of times and then eventually head one in but I mean it's it's a it's a big call now for a manager I think he's um he's kind of pulling that I didn't buy him trick to a degree he's going to say my best three is uh j d uh Lucho and Salah right I don't have to start Darwin I didn't buy him you know he can say look he's what do you want me to do do you want me to drop J you know scored and he scores again like I I me Tech didn't buy any of these players well of course but he can pull that kind of like why do you want me you know sort of yeah does I totally get what you're saying yeah he could be be trying to make a make a definitive statement to the club as to like you know if there's the if there's players these certain players are players that are don't fit my or my whatever then yeah they can't turn around you well you you you said go and get him from sporting for minute whatever you know right or Benfica you know he he's got that so I think he's quietly again this is nothing around Darwin can happen quietly nothing at all but this is quietly I mean like I'm I'm just some of the deals in facts so didn't play last week if he doesn't start next week or it doesn't start tomorrow and then you know let's watch where it is goes is what that's I think I think the things I think again I think the the the situation was game one game yeah Trent being subbed out for for Bradley I think that was more like you know solidifying not only the workload but also solidifying um a more defensive presence you know but also but also you can bring on F players and he didn't get on the pitch so again we're dealing in facts he didn't get on the pitch so if he start there was only four Subs that were made I get that there were last three games last three games of the Season he was dropped for gako first three games he was dropped last season didn't get on until the the red card at Newcastle scores two goals gets a so again let let's see let's see we shall see we shall because don't worry it won't be quiet whatever it is it won't be quiet right all yep yep um yeah uh my wild card be a grabbing Birch P I love that too but that would be my that would be my wild card we might even get a pen hopefully we we get a pen in yeah yeah you know that's how you get your salid go we get no no I just mean we get we start off the season with no injuries which is cool then we go to anfield and we we never get penalties and we get a penalty which would be nice because we probably deserve one attacking you know so it'd be nice to get the season off to a oh no injuries getting a penalty some things are you know just a different vibe around the place but I expect to be honest I kind of expect us outside of the predicting thing because it's uh what the way it is I expect us to absolutely smash them tomorrow regardless of the score I think we're going to go I think we're going to play really really well tomorrow I get I know I get you I definitely get you Jimmy you're right too I I brenford does at times has played us very well they they do uh have a goal in them every once in a while but I think we we good manager he's a good manager he's a good T maner I'd have to look at our last like I think you've beaten them pretty pretty handedly the last couple times we played them though I I don't know what our they keep you on your toes is what I'll say even even if you're t up against them they'll be attacking you they're just one of those teams they they keep you honest as it were you have to be you know you can't just sit there and going to beat them you have to be on your game because they won't stop they have a plan he is a good manager and he'll know where our potential weak spots might be and he'll exploit them that's what smaller Club managers do and uh yeah last interesting last time played Tony 41 we won 4-1 last time we played him uh and then we won three nothing the time before that then we won one nothing 3-1 three nothing the last time they actually got a result from us was oh no they won 3-1 excuse me they won 3-1 they won 3-1 so that was the last time they got a result yeah good you know good games open games I like open games we all like open games we don't like techy little you know low block versus you know you just like an open game as long as you win it it's fine you know but looking at those results that can tells you story isn't there's never a nil nil it's not a nil nil type of matchup it's all matchup it's definitely not it's definitely not um it's been a while since it's it's even been there's only been in the last one two three four five in the last six games it's only been one game where only one goal was scored in it there was only yeah see there's like when when is the last time we had a nil nil we don't even we as a club we don't really do like we other than I think maybe the last one the last times probably like um was um especially at anfield was uh oh yeah we always scored downfield man united exact we always scored downfield so um it' be great to get it off with um six points and like some nice little kind of markers set down like I was saying it would be brilliant to have Mo and J both score in the first two games you know that's really good that's confidence that's like okay you know these boys aren't like J is here you know he's he's fit and mo isn't like winding down some last year goodbye Parky no he's he's already on it from minute one yeah a goal and assist yeah another goal and assist at anfield it's like yeah MO is already now favored for the you know golden or most you know most gold contributions already after two games up at happen that's what I want to see is I ask you this Den who this this this this the chat it's just a different question just came it just popped in my mind who do you have scoring first who who breaks the seal on our goals tomorrow who would be the who's going to be who's going to be the the one that that gets the party started MO Mo yeah Mo I think Mo is pen possibly MO is fired up no not even that I think Mo was fired up man I think Mo is on yeah the opposite of um you know last week at work he's actually no it's my first day at work yeah red armchair supporter said Mo too and I'm gonna we're we're I'll start trying to do that more often I'll say who's gonna get who's gonna be our party starter who's GNA get the party started for us that'll be the question I'll are asking nowadays what the who do you think and now be mean who's who do you think is going to score first for us yeah yeah Mo Bernie says as well yeah looks like the consensus is Mo okay just asking just asking um I mean if you're asking I'm gonna say We'll but mo mo com sh definitely yeah if you're gonna actually put some money on it then he's usually a Sounder B in the Premier League so you're putting your cash on it that's what m it be on yeah for sure um quick question before we bounce out of here because we're on just about to land The Liver Bird on the runway here uh red armchair supporter says why do you think Saudi clubs didn't come back from Mo this year I think that I think I honestly think that they understand they understand the fact that MO is going to make the decision himself as to what happens um I think that if we were only interested in the money we would have went for the offer last year which was a lot of money for a player that only had like two years left on his deal that's Le my opinion but um I think that you know with with the case being uh I think with a lot of these players I'll say it said it before I say it again I think a lot of these players whether it is less so with Trent but more so with uh with Mo and with Virgil being at their age and being at the their stage of their careers I think that it gets down to them as them doing their own personal assessment of the team as to how the team has uh bonded with the new coach what they think their um you know aspirations are their viable aspirations are for getting titles uh or silverware this year are and um if the if the future looks bright you know if the if it doesn't they'll make a they'll make a concerted effort to say thank you for your time but maybe maybe my time is done that's just my my assessment AR you want to give us give a shot which well Trent um that's or just with uh with Mo with mo i i i Trent oh yeah yeah yeah Trent I think it's I'd agree with um saying about no oh yeah no no it's cool I just think with with Trent I think you're right there might be a little bit of um let's see what's happening again I don't think that's right but I mean I don't think that's the way it should be done he should be signing up or or whatever it's too late to uh be hanging around I think Mo and with Virgil this comes down to money really unfortunately at the end of the day it all comes down to money and as free agents as a free agent someone like Mo Salah can really change his life I mean he's his life is his life is utterly transformed the day he became brilliant to football but he can really really change his life doubly so as a free agent that's what why these guys are running down their contracts that's not not vbd not just Mo that's why a lot of top players these days are taking that gamble um to run down their contract to a free agency like mbapp whereas like we said earlier on mbappe could break his leg the week before he's dued to sign Real Madrid and that deal is off but because These Guys these top guys have made so much money already they now prepared to take that c back in the day it was always about having two years left on your deal you always wanted to have two years left on your deal so you could say to your bank manager like this say back in the day when you're earning 200 Grand a week a year 500 Grand a year you could say to your bank manager that you need a mortgage I have a contract for two years right you can say to your wife you can say you know this was like yeah we have I have a job for two years you know it's like oh hang on your job finishes tomorrow what's your income after that zero well you're not getting a mortgage you're not getting a loan for he you know people actually forget even footballers not that long ago you used to have to get mortgages you know they couldn't just go walk into an estate agent put three million quid on the table and go I'll buy that fancy house no they actually have to get loans so having the security of a long-term contract told your family told your your your accountants and all that that you have security it's all it was always about security that's why they always wanted to extend their deal as quickly as possible now the landscape in football has changed to a degree where some of these top guys that should be going for the big money are so secure that they can actually take that gamble run their contract down knowing that that contract is the difference between them getting 10 to 20 now mbappe got a 100 million signing on fee but maybe a 10 million signing on fee or an 8 mil now that's just a straight up lum sum that ain't no Wages that's just a straight up lum some sign an on Fe that you're not going to get that if you're on a transfer right so this is why some of these guys are looking at that Virgil nose double my money as a free agent double my money as a free Ag and you get pick where you want to go period like you get to decide where you go you are exactly you are fully in control again you're taking that risk pushing you know like an arranged marriage in front of you you get to push where you no you're of course you're taking out risk that like you said uh people were talking about last night you were talking about the chicken little thing you are you are you are taking that risk okay well I get injured in training tomorrow and I'm out for eight months right but you these guys don't aren't thinking like that because they have enough in the bank yeah so the bigger guys now can turn around to a club and go no sorry uh I'll go I I'll go next year not that I need back then there no give me the four years give me the four years I'll take it now sign me up I need that I need that security now they're playing the game they're playing the market and I think so really with Mo it's just he knows his value and he knows how to make the most of it as a an aging footballer when he leaves not you know but uh the same with Virgil but Trent I think is completely different you know Virgil and mo as at their yeah different stage but still Bernie but still they are at the age they're at and they won't let me bring let me bring up what her statement was and then to give her uh proper context uh Bernie says and I want to bring up Norm's uh statement before we bounce to um interesting interview with Burge and he was talking about two American Sportsmen in their late 39s uh 39s in early 40s um and um 40s and something has a oh and um Verge has Physio and a chef a lot of a lot of the players all do have like that they all do yeah um at least the the you know the the upper Elite uh players do at least um and uh sometimes and sometimes even the the um the pending on sometimes the club will even pay for that to tell you the truth um but they think she thinks they will want they want to play on if they are fit um oh they're not looking to retire they a't looking to retire but they're looking at that and going well if someone if somebody offers me a million pounds a week at the age I'm now at 33 right I I'm not the kind of guy who like I think amusa di ABI could have said look I want to stay I can like he said before he doesn't need to go and get that big money he can go and get that when he's 32 or 33 they can stay in Europe and win all the trophies that they want to win you know there's no need to go to Saudi at this age because they're fit and all that right so I just think that like back in the day most guys maybe would have had to retire you know with an injury or Fitness around 32 to 34 now these guys have this huge ridiculous opportunity that's been opened up to them that would never have existed before oh absolutely you can push your your that much longer because of more yeah the opportunities of America the opportunities of Saudi Arabia the opportunities that exist maybe in in um you know in their Hometown maybe the the club that they they used to play or that they grew up loving as a child you know can offer them some mainly Saudi Arabia but mainly Saudi the guys we're talking it's the Saudi thing it's like going over there and getting like like I'm saying some of these guys can basically retire from top level football like Red's saying go and get a and get a bigger cont there's another question there's guy that's oh oh sorry I no but I was just saying they can actually go and earn more money which is the insane bit like before they might been able to go and get a contract something but now they can actually go oh no these guys would actually pay you more than you're at Liverpool and you're basically finished at the top level that's changed the landscape completely completely like I don't I'm not worried about the um well no this up right um again before we bounce out of here I wanted to bring up Norm's question and it was when Robertson goes forward we will need to watch that brenford don't win ball win the ball back and get um UMO wh in uh in that space um what I was reason why I brought up that statement was because in in yesterday's debate I was also um told that um burger and dyes over the hill I was told Mo Sal is over the hill I was told away I was told uh I was told Robert Andrew Robinson is old and he's o and he's over the hill um it's G to be news to robot that's got to be news to robot but again that's it was there were some chicken littles out there and uh and these certain chicken Litt were calling Rob washed and done and said that Robo is old and we need to move on from him I wish I was Robo old I wouldn't mind being at this moment yeah um but yeah do you agree with that though do you think that uh in the chat real quick I was putting oh the streets have arrived the streets have arrived how interesting I bring up Robo and the streets arrive yeah because uh yeah they were dissing the streets AKA roster Krabs boy Andrew Robertson they were putting him on Front Street and basically just do you not want to be there is that not somewhere you want to be no oh man I was asking I mean like I felt I was like you know sometimes I feel like we're told You'll Never Walk Alone but at times you kind of do feel alone because I was trying to say Robo old Robo wash done finished come on brothers and sisters well I was on their show a couple of about a week and a half ago and it was a quick thing that was thrown out and said who starts that back and I said everybody fit Robble yeah and there was a load of Simas kind of shouts out there because he done really well in preseason sure sure which is understand you know and I was like yeah cool everyone said so but look I was saying hey look I haven't seen preseason like everybody else has so cool if everyone's saying that but to me I just still thought he's still the man he's still the guy this year at least this year yeah I don't see anything that Simas has done you know um that's that's jumped him above or Beyond a fully fit and a fully you know match uh in match Rhythm Robo if we're playing with a left back so I yeah to me it was a silly question not a silly question but an obvious answer um but I think there's a lot of for some reason uh an eagerness to see some people move on for some reason that they don't need to move on these are the guys that you really really miss when they're gone they are they really are these are the guys that you miss people act like these people like these players the especially some of the levels these players have achieved and and and are holding on to as if they're so it's so easily replaceable you know it's yeah no one has say played them until they're 4 no one the same play like like it while while they can still do the job and it's not doing doing the job to a higher level you don't it's it's very much baby with the bath water a little bit yeah you know yeah these guys are still able to do it yeah crab I mean I've been say look this is the stuff like I've had to Temp temper my stuff a lot on YouTube because you can't be kind of a bit of a dick about somebody because then you hear about it for 10 years but yeah costess is nowhere near come on let's he's not yeah is nowhere near has proven to be able to like you know uh have his moments he's been proven to certainly yeah certainly proven to um to feel feel like um fill a role here and there but to say that I'm going to to say that you want to like make simic cast your Bonafide number one and move on from Robo you know that's a little bit have you not been watching yeah that's a little bit far-fetched and that's why when you hear these takes sometimes from from these chicken littes it's just one of those things where I'm just like man you gotta pump your brakes bro yeah we talked we talked about that earlier R it's exactly what we talked about there was people because Trent have been injured for a while and um like me they hated the inverted thing broy had a few good games and it was like do uh do we even need Trent yeah yeah like come on I think Phil I think Philip says it well Robo may be passed his best which is understandable because I mean you know there are parts and points when you know he could say he's passed his best but if if Bravo was if if his best was 100 even though he's not maybe at 100 being at 92 or 94 is still exceptional you know and that's why it's like it's one of those cases where you know his even not at his best is better than good majority of of of what you you would be getting from other other players in the league even even outside of the league and uh again um I I just don't understand sometimes the outright disrespect some of these players get I would just say Rob Robo is almost certainly past his Peak as a footballer yeah like he's probably yeah either just reached or just P his Peak right right like like his not a new Plateau or a new Peak or something yeah exactly exactly but that does right yeah that doesn't mean that he's not still I mean just yeah again maybe he comes from H he's you know cost a few million quid oh he was only good under clock he he was only just a runner who could cross a ball he's a system player yeah something like that yeah but to me again he is still just a um he is the guy that will always just be a left back he's not someone to ever see transitioning to be you know a center half as well I don't think yeah yeah that was a difficult that was probably a very difficult I mean again I know like that was probably a very difficult um you know uh transformation that he had to go and and try to perform last year in by playing a virtual you know left Center back and still sometimes bombing forward as a left back and then also playing as a defensive left back as well and taking all the taking you know wearing multiple hats that was not an easy role um I know that now late as of late we've seen the the fullbacks play more as what we saw them play Under the early stages of a kop system which is like you know just primarily playing on the wing um but yeah I'm I'm I'm I'm still optimistic that we can get some exceptional play from our Scotsman oh yeah he's again like I say you you get rid of somebody like him who I mean when is the last time he had a bad game yeah it's one of those things okay oh when is you know the guy just doesn't have bad games yeah like really oh Jesus this guy was like he that's what you miss when know something like got to bring in someone you can't discount it ABS you can't discount it yeah definitely so um so let us say this big up to everyone that joined us today we're coming on the two-hour Mark um big up to uh you know the streets was in the house we had Phillip uh we had red armchair supporter or as Brian to say red or as I like to say Ross we had uh obviously one of our Red's jewels in the house we had Bernie here um we also had Norm here Bonkers uh Jimmy was in the house you know um MK toe Richard um I think uh I miss someone um obviously oh pops Bonkers um uh J JK was here early and um early um Michael Corone was in here was in in early so yeah yeah hash and dar was here um a lot of good names a lot of good people um MKTO I think I did say that um uh big up to each and every one of you each and every time oh quasi forgot we got the we got the call from from uh yeah um uh yes so uh and Alexander was here too uh I don't know if hler was here I know realism Jarrett was here red bird was here John Conway was here Edward was here um a lot of good names out there and those that didn't exactly join the chat but actually we just chilling and watching in the in the background big up to each and every one of you and also big up to those watching us on the replay to kind of get um get our score predictions and try to hold us accountable to to the statements that we say trust me I already know that there are those out there that will try to hold receipts on on all of us um trust I hold I got the receipts I got receipts for those out there too as well so you know um so again big up to each and every one of you each and every time uh I'd like to thank uh Brian for joining us today uh is there something you want to say to the people before we bounce out um no just enjoy the game tomorrow pretty much and uh see Monday I suppose yeah we'll see you Monday all right all right all right as as Matthew MCC would say right um and uh as I would like to say and I think many of you as well up the Reds people up the Reds until tomorrow or until uh until Monday actually until Monday and possibly tomorrow but definitely Monday all right we will see you soon up the 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