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middlecoff of the volume week one reaction presented by Uber Eats get almost almost anything for game day all right let's start with Tom Brady's debut Cowboys-Browns uh good God Cleveland's a disaster you know I was sitting there thinking as I'm watching that game if you're going to sign a contract to a a quarterback to a guaranteed contract which you you know KT C C's got one uh and and deshun Watson I not only want a great player I want a great leader I want great health I want an ascending player he's virtually none of those I mean it's just typical Cleveland what's ironic after watching Baker today Baker's a much better quarterback today John than Deshawn Watson I mean Baker was a rockar today I'm sitting there and I'm like we know it's not stefansky we know he's a really bright guy and a good play caller I I mean I don't even know what DeShaun Watson is I mean changing uniforms he's a he's he's a bottom 10 quarterback you know what's funny is I had on the uh Redskins or the commanders game on a little TV and I wrote down about 10 minutes before we jumped on Baker's in a different Universe not just as a thrower his touch I mean Deshawn's throwing balls into the stands constantly but his swag the way he carries himself the way his teammates and even as a playmaker I mean it's not like Baker some Elite athlete but moving around Deshawn Watson and Dak Prescott signed the same contract essentially $230 million guaranteed how could you pay a player who has character question marks and who has a short resume I mean it I'm getting text constantly I'm sure you are it has to go down immediately as one of the worst deals in the history of pro sports you look at Dak has his flaws in January very consistent regular season player super smart guy High character Le leader everyone that knows him like him deshun Watson I I was out on him last year today what an embarrassment where's the playmaking Colin he doesn't make any plays well and he was never a hyper athletic or he was never a hyper accurate thrower that was that was always the beat on him I can remember his first year everybody liked him he would skip throws he's not he's not a pretty thrower he's not an easy thrower everything looks like it's a struggle down field um you know he was a wildly dynamic athlete you take that out and I mean he's no more athletic today than Dak Prescott and I I've always thought Dak sort of a b athlete and a b arm uh but I was watching Dak today and I'm like oh dak's a much much better player than DeShaun Watson and the thing about Dak Dak is a guy that even when he has his faults you do feel like he is the soul of the organization he's the soul Deshawn Watson if you went through that locker room and have half the guy asked half the guys and they you go you could move off the contract so I I look at Cleveland and I think desperate franchises desperate owners do dumb things they're sunk you can't go anywhere in the AFC with deshun Watson well the reason they won 11 games was Joe flacko last year right he resurrected him and they refused to resign him because they didn't want any drama let's face it if I was a Browns fan today I wouldn't want to watch this anymore he as just a consumer as so I didn't have any money on the game or anything just an awful terrible watch like who who wants to consume that player like you said he used to be able to scramble around and do things that's gone I listen has he lost his confidence 100% but whatever that is that we witnessed today was a fish out of water they're going to be former players I'm sure they come to his defense well they were missing offensive lineman they gave him $230 million to elevate above that as a playmaker and that's gone I I thought uh I wrote this down I thought Mike McCarthy in terms of play calling today I thought it was Sensational they had a drive in the second quarter they did everything I mean it was it was shovel passes it was uh screens it was counters and traps and I I'm sitting there watching I'm like this is Art like you know we bang on Mike McCarthy but he's a 500 playoff coach he's a 60% winning coach and you could say well he had he had Aaron roders well he's also had Cooper rush and Dak guys who are not considered Superstar throwers of the football I thought Dallas today and I had my questions looked so buttoned up offensively I thought the play calling was good I thought Dak was in a Zone listen I the defense was awesome excellent pass rush listen I don't want to pay Dak 60 million but good God 230 was guaranteed so it takes out the salary cap issues when you guarantee the whole damn thing and my take is if you're going to have a quarterback with questions just guarantee it like I saw this week the ners uh converted somebody's contract to a signing bonus like if if you can guarantee the stuff and get it you know help you out in the salary cap but that if You' have told me one team today played Flawless football and it was the Dallas Cowboys in Cleveland with with a rookie left tackle against miles Garrett it would have been one of the bottom guesses I would have had that's as good as Dallas can play offensively and defensively to me how about Jerry there's no chance they just got this deal done late Saturday night he stole the morning with this announcement of this cont cont you talk about a showman and then they answered the Bell you know the first thing that came cuz there had been Rumblings when you say this last week like something might happen here he he might get a contract extension I thought the moment that contract was extended I'm like I think that's good for Mike McCarthy because the success Dak has had under him right Mike's calling the plays unlike a lot of these coaches all over the league that just are CEO head coaches so he directly impacts him and if Dak continues to have success let's say they lose in the second round I cuz I I had pivoted on McCarthy he was easy to beat up a couple years ago and then he just kept rattling off 12 wins and then we're anointing guys like Mike McDaniel who've never won a big game in their entire life and can't win the division I think the Cowboys have a pretty good chance to win the division this year hell I I I picked them before the season like them just as much now but if they win 11 12 games again you're going to Pivot off the guy who's your offensive play caller and like you said proven to be a pretty good head coach okay he's not Bill Walsh or you know Andy Reid we get that but you're going to bring in bill bich right I mean that seems like especially now that you're so invested in Dak and let's face it Dak over and over answers the bell in the regular season at a really high level and he's proven that he can win big games unlike Lawrence and Tua who got paid this off season in December he just has to get hot like an Eli Manning or Joe flacko to really kind of cement his legacy that will always be a question mark but I don't think there are any more question marks like compared d to Kirk Cousins like I think there's a little bit of a gap there I know their numbers are similar but I think that's especially as Kirk's getting older you know Jared Goff he's playing after we talk but he doesn't move as well I mean d dak's really good he's never going to be the second best quarterback but you feel pretty good about just putting them in at number eight and then all the character stuff and the intangibles and the leadership are are a really big deal in the sport of football yeah no it there's no question that he is an adult and I and I think from the very first year in the NFL you always felt like you could trust Dak in the locker room to make smart decisions stay out of trouble and you know it sounds like you know oh that doesn't really matter I mean you could hear Tom Brady on the broadcast today so much of it as being able to handle hard coaching to get yelled at um I mean I can remember uh during some cultural movements in America you know Dak was front and center I I I just think he is that soul of the franchise speaking of Brady I always said when Tony Romo took the job everybody fell in love with him three years later were like h Brady's broadcasting career is going to be his playing career you're going to just watch him work really hard and you're going to say he can't do this can't do this can't do this as a player you look up you're like he does everything I thought he was nervous today especially in the first half but my takeaway is go to week eight Tom's gonna literally go home tonight and spend the entire night and the next day studying the film so I my take on Tom you know everybody was talking about it I thought he was really nervous to start it was funny I talked to him last week off the air and I said listen you're you're going to be nervous I don't care what anybody says you're not playing you can't control it it's just and it's and and and for the record it is so hard to do well you basically have to succinctly 300 times in an afternoon talk for8 seconds and you have no idea what you're going to talk about 10 seconds before you talk about it it's a really hard job um and so that was kind of my take on Brady you got any thoughts yeah I'm not going to try to be a hater I I admire Tom everything he's accomplished on his career people I know that know him and I'm not trying to overreact to one game but I thought he was pretty bad yeah I I just thought you know he's very tight you know he's with Kevin who's been doing this since he was like five who's very smooth Aaron ronaldi I mean raldi is one of the great greats of all time tough spot he's gonna have to find a lane yeah because I I think the Casual person and if you're getting 20 30 million people watching these games most of them are not dieh hard football people right right they want to be entertained Madden's personality Gruden's entric craziness that's not really going to be even Romo was just very excited and like you said every turned on him but but he has a lane you know I I don't necessarily like is Tom he didn't really let it fly today on DeShawn Watson uh which I thought was a BP fastball though I don't know if that's going to be his thing um I I I just thought he was kind of tight which is understandable yeah but I I don't quite know what's going to be like I I don't think people want like let the personality come out that everyone that you're groon and Edelman and these guys love you like be one of the guys which he obviously has in there I just think he was kind of stuck in no man's land and obviously I'm sure he'd overprepared the majority of people text I'm getting and I'm sure we'll see it tomorrow people be critical of him it's a tough spot but I I I just I'm interested to see what Lane he figures out cuz today I thought he was kind of in no man's Lane and again I like Tom I'm a Tom Brady guy I'm not rooting against him but it was tough I mean it's tough a spot yeah no it was he he he was choppy and he just didn't quite listen it's it's I've talked for a living it it takes Rhythm if I take 10 days off I come back the following Monday I'm Rusty like I need an hour to get back into my rhythm so it it's not the easiest thing okay I I want to talk about the Bears Titans-Bears game first of all the fact that they won a game and pass for 64 yards um so it was interesting belich said something last week I took the Titans to win that game and basically I was on the right side I felt for almost the entire game but B belich said something um this week and and and I took it to heart belich said I wasn't impressed he was like 10 for 20 and I went back and I text somebody who was I know who's in the NFL who's been critical of him and the big question with Caleb is high school and college um he can really get in the weeds with his accuracy he can really get into the high grass and if you recall momes could do that a little bit in his first three years and then Annie would pull him back in he Mahomes would get really off mechanically Stafford's done that in his career where it's so easy for momes and Stafford they're start they start sidearm two out of three throws the mechanics get sloppy and I thought with Caleb he's got a defensive coach so momes has Andy uh Stafford at one point had um an offensive coordinator he really connected with now he has McVey but I I think with Caleb is when he gets sloppy mechanically who brings him back on The Fairway because I thought I thought today he struggled at times to see things you know I thought his decision making late in the game and not making mistakes and taking what was given for him was fine but it I mean all these guys struggle today Bo Knicks was as good as anybody and he threw two picks what did you make of Caleb overall today well I think if you go back to Bill's comments he's like listen I'm not being a hater but I don't put anything in preseason and when you're inaccurate in the preseason do you know what hit me today watching about 10 games in the morning on different TVs and screens you know how the NBA once the playoffs start you're like what we just witnessed for the last six months doesn't even look like the same sport that's kind of the preseason I mean the first 10 minutes of like 10:00 a.m. to like 10:30 you're watching the Steeler game the Houston indie game guys are flying around I'm like this doesn't even resemble what we just witnessed right so the defensive game plans all these defensive coordinators even the average ones are making one and a half2 million they're paid a lot of money to do this the physicality of the game ramps up the question on Caleb he is going to be able to make spectacular throws though he wasn't doing that today I think he was really rattled and his confidence was all shot but can he just make basic throws from in the pocket whether it's a fast ball or whether it's a layered throw and it kind of unraveled on him and unraveled on him fast now the Titan Jeffrey Simmons is probably one of the better players that the Casual fan doesn't know that much about because he plays for the Titans you put him on the Cowboys or the Eagles or something he'd be a star and they were hitting his ass hard and he was he he was thrown off and will Levis bailed their team out because if Will Levis doesn't self- implode the Titans not only easily should have covered they should win the game I mean you he he looked like Daniel Jones there but Caleb he was he was atrocious today I mean he he he really was which is fair because this is what bill and Bill's an old school guy Shawn Payton all all these guys that come from the 80s the 90s the bill Parcels they hate hype you know I you and I I like some hype I enjoy it those guys do not like it because it doesn't mean anything once you kick off week one and that like all that hype was meaningless today if on third and70s skipping a ball and he was and it unraveled fast the arm strength all the talent doesn't mean and like you said it gets back to Jaden Daniels beside his running didn't look great Bo Nicks who has an offensive play caller now he was on the road granted was looked overwhelmed a lot of the time yep it's hard this is really really this is why I've said pump the brakes especially on Caleb and the Bears I know like Nick Wright picked him to win the Super Bowl a lot of people are H you know he threw that out there I don't know if he actually picked but my point is he could make serious strides as the year goes on and they could win seven games this is really look at Sam darnold he's been in the league for like seven years it's taken him forever to figure it out not easy no I said this I did a piece for uh Fox Sunday and I said be careful on Caleb Williams this is one of the best divisions this is a franchise that ran trabis out of town and he made the playoffs twice with Aaron roders and Stafford in their Prime this media is rough the weather gets rough by Thanksgiving if they win eight games and he gets better take it if you could take that today and say he's significantly better we win eight games we finish third take it because what success looks like to Dak is not what success looks like you know years ago you and I grew up the hardest thing to do was hit a baseball now that's still really hard yeah it's still really hard but quarterback now has entered that space because it's not a run Centric League it's a it's a 6040 6238 Passing League and um I mean it's even Gino Smith a veteran today his best play was a run like this stuff is hard and I think we just have to understand I thought all the quarterbacks looked overwhelmed I thought Bo Knicks had a little rhythm at one point in the game where he felt like I felt like Bo seeing the game he wasn't doing much but he was seeing the game he was seeing the field and he was facing a new defensive head coach so all 24 points today were scored by defense and special teams will Levis to me is done he's baked I don't think I his college game looks like his Pro game doesn't see the field terrible judgment I think Caleb's gonna be fine but to your point um he looked overwhelmed and I think the other thing is if you opened up on the road it's different dude he opened up in Chicago the weather was perfect I had a buddy at the game like there was a lot of freaking heat on Caleb today like a lot of pressure on Caleb well that's where if you you know if you take Bo Knick and you take Caleb Bo knck is in Seattle where the place is really loud and he can barely hear himself think Caleb Gets a pretty BP fast ball a 12 o'clock kickoff in Chicago I'm a huge believer in two things for young people whether you're a professional athlete or just a normal person in society confidence can be lost really quickly and it can be hard to gain I would say you know in your early 20s and when you are everyone's looking at you and you start losing confidence it can spiral and the only thing you ever have to go back on is your experience but as a young player you don't have any experience like Gino today you're watching early on you're like God Seattle looks weird he's been through it Dak today the all these guys have so much experience that they don't freak out over one drive they don't freak out over a bad quarter and you just watch Caleb you just felt it snowballing and what does he have to go back on nothing and it's not like he can look over there and Bill Walsh is on the sideline be like listen I've been doing this for 30 years won a couple Super Bowls I'm going to call three plays get you a couple layups and they were just they were very scattered yes they bu very I mean there there was one point in time in that game before will Lis just pooped down his own leg where you're like are they going to lose 28 to10 and just be the number one story of the day tomorrow morning that the Bears and Caleb specifically are not nearly as good as we think because that and I I really think that you can defensive turnovers like if if they're playing a top if they're playing Just Baker Mayfield or Gino well they got blown out they get killed yeah so I mean they get killed and I I'm not jumping on Caleb here which I would imagine is going to happen a lot this week I just think everyone this is so much more difficult at the NFL level than College even if you're playing at a high level of college and Caleb was playing a lot of good teams in college but the level athlete the level of speed he just did the Rhythm I mean it was just it was glaring and the level of coaching you there's no grad assistance on these staffs man you're talking about the very best I mean Jesus you look at USC this year with the same defensive players upgrad in coach I mean there's so many there are bad college coaches I mean guys like Mike Zimmer are excellent and he's been fired Mike Zimmer is a great coach so in the NFL it's very rare when you get a Brandon Staley you're like okay that guy's over his skis completely Freddy kitchens yep that's not going to work overwhelmingly almost everybody in this league is excellent well one of my favorite bets today was Tampa over Washington just one I don't think Washington's any good Tampa's made the playoffs for four years they are loaded with NFL players all over the place and and Baker and I was close to where you stood on him the change he's had as just the way carries himself obviously the way he plays Washington just they just don't have the talent and I think you saw all these three rookie quarterbacks the difference of Jaden and the other two he can really take off I mean he can really run and that that that kind of neutralized and kept the game somewhat close for a while but these coaches are going to put you you're just going to end up in third long and this is not College like you're going to have to sit in there and there's going to be you're you don't have seven seconds like you there's going to be plays where you got to get rid of it in two and a half that's why watching Deshawn Wat who's been a pro now for a while it's like he has no clock it's like you either got to throw the ball away I I bet Tom Brady's in there thinking like what the hell am I watching get rid of the ball I I understand those young quarterbacks not knowing the time to me that's more than fair I think it also shows how difficult it is for young quarterbacks and I know a lot of the listen I was high on Denver it's going to be a roller coaster ride for all three guys which is more than fair in the history of the league it's time for this week's player I thought might give almost almost anything to redo his game brought to you by Uber Eats this week will Levis Titans quarterback oh brutal Titans blew a 17 lead over Chicago that was this week's Uber Eats player of the week get almost almost anything for Game Time delivered with Uber Eats the official on demand delivery partner of the NFL order right now I want to talk Raiders Chargers it was the most predictable at least Raiders-Chargers stylistically it was the most predictable game it was a rock fight it was just physical brutal tough I mean it was not pretty but my favorite part of this game is basically the same defense as last year they were in the right spot I mean they had one kind of missed tackle on a play that ended up being a big play for the Raiders but Justin Herbert goes 16 of 25 for 135 yards no touchdowns no picks and I'm like he's going to do that several times this year and people are going to bang on Justin Herbert I watch that game and I'm like Harbaugh's looking at that Talent pretty light at tight end and wide receiver not a lot of game Breakers okay at running back better than average maybe not great Harbaugh looked at that game today and thought and I think they're going to win this stylistically this is how the Chargers will win they'll ugly it up Herbert won't make any mistakes he'll make four to five big throws no interceptions make the right reads this felt it almost felt like Harbaugh his first year at Michigan taking over for Brady hul he didn't have a lot of elite Playmakers but he won 10 games on just situational field position toughness and then over the course of two or three years he couldn't beat Ohio State he was he was losing games you think they should win but they didn't have NFL players the Chargers Bose is great Derwin James is fantastic so was Herbert uh ran Slater's a good left tackle and not a lot of guys everybody would VI for if they were on the market I thought that game was exactly how you have to win if you're the Chargers with hard ball this year with that Talent yeah I think if you remove the quarterbacks they're the same team that's right very they're very similar Herbert I didn't even know his box score I thought he made some big big throws down the stretch he did he made some big throws down the stretch and then I I had the game on mute was a Dobbin bust of the big run yeah that that is listen they're their team is not going to be a sexy watch this year and the Raiders if they had Justin Herbert would be the same thing they'd have to win a lot of games kind of like the Chiefs did last year Mucky it up ugly it up and try to win 19 to 14 19 to 17 and I think when you watch you know let's look at that division right like I had either Denver the Chargers making the playoffs I I I kind of waffled back and forth I think it is going to be difficult now we'll have to see how the rest of the AFC plays out it's obvious going to be hard for Denver with a rookie quarterback and playing on the road the Raiders have no shot Harbaugh does just because of his quarterback I mean the guy's Talent some of these guys that hate on him it's like one you you were either just trying to be uh like counterculture and just sound different or two you know nobody in football because nobody thinks that I just listen to the way Jim talks about him I think over the next couple years I we saw how Jim has built at Michigan they're going to be a serious problem as he teaches Justin Herbert how to win in the NFL yeah but they they got they're Talent deficient yeah clearly clearly on offense and the one thing as the season goes and this goes back to the rookie quarterbacks these defensive coordinators I mean they work 18 hours a day they're going to get nine guys in the box and Herbert's gonna have to beat them with kind of random wide receivers right if they had Keenan Allen and Mike Williams in their Prime to me they would be a lock playoff team but they had to Pivot off those guys because of the money but it's is a winner so betting against Jim to me seems moronic I mean just it's not going to work now is he going to win 10 games this year I don't know but he's gonna have a chance to go above 500 I bet when the D settles come December how about Antonio Pierce punting on a fourth and one late in the game and I thought I thought it was interesting because I thought well that's what defensive coaches do by the way even uh Mike McDonald the new Seahawk coach in a win Super conservative down the stretch uh Denver had a chance to get the ball back and win the game it was like defensive guys oh my God I I'm watching Antonio Pierce I'm like dude you can't be conservative with that football team the only way the Raiders can win six games is Big swings because you just don't and by the way teams with weak quarterback play will get worse over the season because the defense will be on the field for more snaps defensive players get hurt more than offensive players statistically in the league so a team like the Raiders you get to like week four to five to six when the defense is literally on the field the whole game you're going to be losing guys left and right you got to take swings I think one of the elephant in the room in that game and you saw him a couple times on the sideline is Devonte Adams on that team makes no sense none and if people still think he can play if you his value has diminished because as time goes on you make a lot of money and you don't produce it the same way you're just not worth as much but if you can get rid of them at the trade deadline for a second and a third like to me that's it's probably time to Pivot NFL week one is here and a new season means new ways to get in on the action at draftking sports book an official sports betting partner of the NFL so fans have spoken they want to bet on touchdowns Draft Kings Hur us they're delivering DraftKings Sports books the number one place to bet touchdowns ready to place your first bet try betting on something simple like picking a player to score a touchdown ready to do a touchdown dance of your own new DraftKings customers bet just five bucks to get 250 bucks in bonus bets instantly plus one month of NFL Plus premium on us download the draftking sports book app real easy 90 seconds use the code Colin for new customers will get you 250 bucks in bonus bets betting just five and one month of NFL Plus premium on us offer end September 19th only on DraftKings the crown is yours I I get not trading Max Crosby because those guys are hard to find but a wide receiver with a team with no quarterback it also shows you that Gardner muu like there's such a difference Sam darnold everyone hated and right I mean he was bad in his spots but then look who believed in him K Shanahan signed him last March and immediately Tre Lance was dead on a Ral his career ended the moment he signed and then by he spends a year one thing he talked about is like I saw pie work well obviously P's work ethic has to be elite for him to have success right with his physical tools and he's like God it really opened my eyes this is a fifth six-year player saying he's watching a second-year guy he's never been around that and his physical attributes relative to mchu both those guys were the bridge quarterbacks this offseason it's not even in the same ballpark mchu is a great story he's a good backup if you are forced to start him week one and now it feels like a couple teams have been forced to over the course of his career you're just you're just done like your season is over before it even begins and Sam darnold like is he going to sustain this all season I don't know but his physical attributes and clearly he people like the guy he just needed to get around some real offensive coaches now we see back toback years Kyle shanan then Kevin okono gets a chance to play I understand he's playing the Giants and they suck but Colin he looked pretty good today let's talk about that he went Vikings-Giants 19 to 24 at one point I think he was 10 for 10 208 yards two TDS yeah it and it really touches on something I always have sympathy for people like this um I I got very lucky my first job out of college I was in Vegas and um it couldn't have been a better place for me to work I got a really good news director who believed in me I had good people around me and if you look at my career I've had really smart people agents content people and my career wouldn't be like this if I didn't get people that supported me and believed in me and I'm not saying you know Adam gase I thought he would be good because pton Manning had said he was going to be good and it just didn't work but I mean he's been at the Jets he's been at Carolina it's like I have sympathy for people that I know who are talented and I've worked with people in my business like this hell you're a great example every one of my friends loves you you've done great for us you got let go by an AM radio station in the bay I'm not blaming anybody but it's like going under yeah yeah by the way at the volume we've made a our business is basically finding people who we think are really good and we think they're at a place that doesn't understand how good they are you were one of them so the thing about Sam darnold is look at who likes him Shanahan liked him Adam gase actually liked him a lot early Kevin oconnell likes him if you start asking around the league I know when uh it was funny when Christian mcaffrey had a wedding there was like you know I saw nine of the guys there 10 one of them was Sam darnold like players like Sam and I thought today if you watch that game every time Sam went back to pass you could you could literally see it as a viewer as a consumer they had Sam knew where he was going he wasn't ad libing Sam knew where he was throwing the football and it's like that's the different I mean go look the Jared gof with Jeff fiser and then with McVey he was a bust he was a disaster and then you're like oh he's going toe-to-toe with Mahomes on Monday Night Football what's going on here so I I watched darnold their schedule is brutal I think they're a seven- win eight- win team but I when I watch them today I'm like oh he finally got his King maker right you know it's funny people ask me all the time like you know I want to get in the podcast business do you have any advice I'm like yeah just find a colen coward and then that's all you need because like you said I mean there are players are no different than a lot of people in a lot of different Industries there are probably some really talented players on Carolina that no one's going to notice all right and look at Carson Wentz he was out of the league and then who was interested last year sha McVey and what had happened to him this offseason bred V and Reed signed him so perception becomes reality the NFL is a lot like a high school people talk uh you know fair or not narratives become truths and it's hard to shake it off and only it's rare that a guy like Sam darnold truly gets like a cool opportunity like he has opportunity if he plays really well they just drafted JJ McCarthy they have no choice but to Pivot unless they like win the Superbowl or something who's to say the Raiders won't give him some money or a team like that this off season right and like some guys are completely overwhelmed look look at Tre Lance he got drafted to Kyle Shanahan and they're out and he goes to Mike McCarthy who's great with quarterbacks he's like he's our third string quarterback like I'm sorry I'm out on him that's not Meathead defensive guys not willing to like see your talent now I I do think we have his historical similarities of guys that were high draft picks I remember living in the Bay Area you know they they would talk about like Jim plunket high draft pick fell apart and then the raid got him we've SE Rich Gan is an example you see guys kind of Bounce Around they get what the right fit and they get what the right guy to believe in them and the good thing for Sam is Kyle o Connell are the same umbrella well look around the league there's like 17 of them all over the place so if you all know the offense his demand he doesn't have to do this every week but if he can just prove to have them in the wildcard conversation come after Thanksgiving I think he's going to be a starting quarterback I mean Colin watching Bryce young and that's a ex the organization clearly has issue he looks completely overwhelmed overwhelm deshun Watson wouldn't be a starting quarterback long if his contract wasn't there are a lot of quarterbacks jacobe Brett I mean there are a lot and I understand he won today but he threw for like 120 yards I mean there are a lot of guys playing in this league today that just are not going to be playing for long so when you can prove it no one's ever disputed Sam's physical characteristics and if you know the Shanahan offense which I would say is one of the more complex and now you know like the intricacies of okono that bring some of McVey they're all kind of interconnected I think he's got a pretty bright future if he can just keep building on this yeah and he had some tight window throws Red Zone throws he looked good he looked good I thought Sam I thought he looked really good you know it's I want to talk about the Broncos and Seahawks Broncos-Seahawks because again I thought Bo had his moments I'm watching Seattle and I say this respectively to Pete Carroll I think Seattle has Elite Talent I just don't think people know the players but Walker their wide receivers they have tremendous young Corners they got a consistent pass rush they got the Murphy kid in the draft the top defensive tackle a Fant left today it's Gino is what he is like he's a really solid he's a great story he is what he is he's not going to lose you a lot of games not going to win you a lot of games but I'm watching that game today and and Shawn pton coached his ass off for a half he got them I mean a lot of this was Seattle doing getting safeties and it was quirky and then all of a sudden by the second half you're like okay now we're off script and now Bo Knicks is a rookie quarterback and he just you know that's the difference between a veteran Dak in the second half and Bo Knick in the second half B's like okay now they adjusted so I got the everything on the script I figured out now it's all off script and I'm watching that Seattle Team John and I I think you called them one of the surprised teams I'll just say it right now maybe they're not Baltimore I think they are really talented they they fly around the field defensively I actually was kind of on the other side but their talent my issue with them is they've been they were poorly coached but they've been winning nine games yes you know it's not like it's not like they've been winning five a good division yeah that's what I'm saying so how do they go from do you think they could win 11 I still think their offensive line has some question marks they got they got punked Gino has his limitations but you're right I mean Kenneth Walker there's a chance at the end of the year he's a top five running back yeah how about the the catch Lockett made to seal the game he's our third wide receiver and he's been Jesus he's been great for 10 years he's got to be one of the more underappreciated players of his generation might not even be close I think I could play for my team any day now if their defense is better they still might be a 9ish win team but could they beat the 49ers in a game because they haven't beat the 49ers in five games not play two years ago in the playoffs not with so if they if they can play at a more physical brand my question marks you never know what a coordinator going to a head coach he's young I think he's 37 years old and their offensive coordinator who we all loved in college who was the board's right hand had never coached in the NFL they showed his resume today he was at Sue Falls not that long ago that's a pretty quick jump now he clearly knows what he's doing and so their coaching staff might just be better I saw I watch John Schneider's press conference at the end of training camp you can tell he thinks they got something not he knows their team is talented but like he thinks the coaching staff's pretty good so like can they beat McVey and Kyle can they split can they go two and two because if they can then maybe they're not nine and eight they're 10 and seven and they're like the six or seven seed that I I would say that's possible not going to overreact to playing Denver who it's just you could tell they're a little Talent deficient still with with the rookie quarterback but yeah I mean it's hard not to he's an easy guy to root for Gino's an easy guy to root for I I just wonder in Sunday night Monday night games in Tom Brady calling it if you're both 4- one or however the schedule and you're playing the Rams or you're playing the Niners are you I'm not picking Gino Smith home or away yeah I will say this about bonck and I talked about this because I saw him play Live Twice he is much more mobile than people give him credit for way more mobile he ran in for a touchdown today on a pump fake he you know it it's he looks smallish you don't think you know 61 college starts you don't see as a great athlete I thought today he I know one of the interceptions was a great play and I love the Seahawk corners and again they're all overwhelmed they don't have a ton to work with I don't know how good their offensive line is I think B Knicks is gonna work I don't think they w a ton of games but I when I watched him today I never felt he was rattled I thought he made two throws that were like rookie throws the second half I'm like oh Jesus B but I kind of like bake that in like I don't know when I watched him today I never felt he was you I kind of just my low after watching Caleb I'm like Jesus this is rough I watched them and I was like if you told me my Thanksgiving it all clicked I'd be like all right I could see it well you you know what where it set in with me is last night at 11:00 at night watching the Big 10 play they had multiple Big 10 games going Oregon and USC your Trojans look better than Oregon right now that's just a fact Oregon's a mess there's a drop off at quarterback Dylan Gabriel has been a productive player but there is a dramatic difference between Dylan Gabriel who's probably not even a draft pick and a guy that was just a top 15 pick immediate starter week one like that's a pretty big deal right when you look at Oregon I know they got a their offensive Line's a mess but if your offensive line is a mess and this goes back to Cleveland if your quarterback can be mobile you either got to do two things what Payton and Tom could do forever they played with a lot of average offensive line get rid of the ball like that yeah or run around for your life Lamar Jackson the other night and you get caught like DeShaun Watson you're kind of doing neither well bow Nicks can scramble Jaden Daniels can scramble yeah so if your offensive Line's gonna suck and you're not going to picky a part the in the pocket really quick you got to be able to move and bow speed translates like physically to me like talent wise everyone anoints Caleb is his all-time great talent he's really talented to me like Josh Allen and John Elway are probably on their own little tier but I think B Nick's physical attributes are like a plus characteristic yeah they got that going now he threw a pick in the Red Zone like it's it's it's hard but yeah I'm not out on him by any means I I've actually he's really grown on me he's a guy that during the pre-season even the day like that's tough to go on the road against a defensive coordinator who's a head coach they're flying around can't hear yourself think like that's it's a tough tough environment in those spots like this is back to Caleb and Bo their environments were completely different one was home one was like a catered dinner and the other one was like make a festar meal here's mayonnaise and here's a piece of beef you know it's difficult I want to talk about Buffalo and Arizona so I watched Kansas City and Baltimore play and then I watch Green Bay and Philadelphia so I Cardinals-Bills see those four teams and I see all this offense and then I watched Houston today it's just got nothing but Ballers offensively then I watched Dallas today and I'm sitting there looking around watching buffalo in Arizona Kyler Murray's Beyond clever I mean he's just a little pitter patter he's a he's a great watch isn't he they might I don't know how many games they'll win but he's on TV he's fun but I watch Buffalo and I'm like you're not you're not Kansas City Kansas you had a chance to beat Kansas City they have added elements now but between worthy they have a second tight end they brought Juju Smith Schuster Hollywood Brown they still have Isaiah Pacho I'm like no Kansas City's got Firepower Dallas has Firepower Houston's got a lot of Firepower Baltimore's got Firepower Jordan loves out for about a month but Green Bay and Philly have Firepower we know the Rams and San Francisco will move the ball I watch Buffalo today and I'm like it took him a while to get cooking John I'm not I don't know if windows closed but I don't think they can I don't think they can keep up with a lot of these AFC teams well I would push back that I Lov the Cardinals plus six and a half because Kyler's such a difficult guy to play week one when you haven't have no game experience you're not used to the speed of the NFL as we already talked to in terms of your team like the speed of week one compared to like two weeks ago in a preseason game is is night and day so I I I give you a pass of just running around because they do have a good pass rush they're just going to eat up a lot more immobile quarterbacks like Tua and if we're gonna give Baltimore credit Lamar happened to pull stuff out of his you know what every other play because their offensive line isn't good Josh is doing the same thing and I think the question mark with both guys you know by the end of the game I'm looking up I got him on a muted TV they're wrapping his arm I mean he's just taking shot after shot he is I I I didn't I was too young to remember like the young physical dominant Elway but that is as dominant of a physical specimen who can run and pass you know cam was always hit or miss with the pass as a runner he's probably the most dominant runner of all time Josh is the ultimate combo of them both because he's a better passer than Lamar Lamar's faster than him but I mean he can truck basically any linebacker defensive back you've been talking about this for a while you just get worried when you play like that yeah eventually you're going to get a broken arm or a broken clavicle but I think that they're I think there's a grittiness to that team like there there was a moment you looked up and it was like are they going to get their ass kicked and then boom I I had a buddy text he's like should I hammer the money line you get him like plus 180 right now I'm like I don't hate it and then boom they scor two touchdowns and then all of a sudden they had the lead now granted it was at home but I thought once they kind of realized the speed of Murray they sacked him a couple times in the second half I think their front's gonna be pretty good and I'm just I'm just a Josh diard believer I mean I think he's just one of been watching football now 30 years I think he's one of the best talents I've ever seen and he's turned into a great player that he could shakure the Boise State Riders receiver's really good yeah their run game is the best it's been and I do think they built like they did show something last year I'm with you like can they beat Kansas City in a playoff game if they played right now Kansas City's a much better team you know it's funny I'm looking at I think there's a grittiness to the squad though it's they were not very good on third down um it's funny I looked at them today and I just thought I don't know if they can keep up now everybody goes well col and they scored a 34 points they're going to be fine it's more than that but you know it's funny when I look at them um they only average cook only averaged 3.7 yards per Rush um three for n on third down you know what they have going for him Colin let's remove Kansas City who is like the Jordan Bulls right now who the Bengals look like absolute dog poop today I mean what an awful I mean that's got to be the worst loss the day to lose to the Patriots at home so you don't I think Houston I think that win today was much more impressive than people give it credit for totally agree I think Indy's good I think I think that was a playoff level game between those those are two good teams you know the Steelers are going to have to win a lot of games 18 to 12 right uh the Browns have a ton of issues we'll see the Jets Monday night I I know the Dolphins pulled out a win I I think Doug Peterson did a couple weird things play calling wise that that game was that game was bizarre but I am not a believer in the Dolphins so one thing the bills have going for him with some people in Kansas City they're like God Lamar's really hard to play but can you play like that throughout the entire season now obviously you're not playing the Chiefs every week so he he's not going to need 150 yards but whenever they play a good team they're going to need Lamar to beat this incredible so you just look around the AFC like I just think the NFC is better right I mean Billy still figuring things out Dallas today we'll see the ners we'll see the li like I just think the NFC is pretty stacked so you look for the bills you go yeah they got some young players they're relying on but they still got the second best quarter back in the NFL right and a coach that kind of knows how to win they've won the division four straight years yeah and a group of kind of core guys so I I'm still a Believer uh pick them to win the Super Bowl and I wouldn't pick them to beat the Chiefs but I I I think they could beat any other team in the AFC yeah I'm probably too Harden them I I found the game wildly entertaining I guess they you know it's it's funny as I watched them I kept thinking God they're so Josh Allen freaking Reliant and then I look at it and it's um you know in fairness Coleman had four cashes shakir's a clever player yeah and you know you start looking at it cook yeah I think their yards per catch were greater than I give him credit for um the other thing about Buffalo they're just in a lot of crazy ass games Houston's in a lot of those they are Buffalo's just in a lot of big games crazy games and I think that's just sort of their Hallmark now I we've SE them in so many memorable games well I think if you look at Buffalo they play in the offensive version of the Steelers who play in the defensive version of the same game it's like going back and forth Anything Could Happen fumble sixes crazy sacks where Buffalo's games are just a lot of touchdowns and it's Josh scoring a lot they're more likely to be in a game that's 33 to 29 and the Steelers are playing like what a win by the Steelers and they win 12 to7 you know they're kind and they both win a lot of games you trust I I just believe in this modern day the way the sports played when you're quarter back's that good I I just have to believe in you and that's where you go the Steelers you go God TJ watt non-quarterback hell he might be the best I mean there's a short list of guys that are as good as him or better than him their defense is so physical but their quarterback situation you know I would imagine field starts again next week but they got this Russell situation hanging over them where it's like if you're the bills it's like yeah we got you could argue the best player in the history of our franchise and they've had you know Bruce Smith Thurman they've had great players but like joshh give his position and what he means over the last three or four years it's not like those teams won a Super Bowl now they got there I I should probably look at the bills and have a different feeling which is they were outplayed in the first half and they ended up winning the game like there were moments in that game I was like God Arizona's just playing them tough and then at the end they won the game it's not like Chicago where Tennessee gave you the game it was like Buffalo earned the win I mean they they put up points it is um you know Josh 18 of 23 that's actually 20 three attempts because he's so vital as a runner is a very reasonable number like I think Buffalo wants to become less J Centric but it's hard they want to run the they want to run the ball today they got down yes I I anytime you get down in a game even in the NFL like you looked around beside the Saints and the Panthers most of these games are relatively close yeah even when it's 147 or 143 I mean you're a play away from being right back in it but you kind of have to get a little pass happy when you're down 17 to3 at home late in the second quarter and then they did and it worked and then you just double down on what's working the rest of the game but yeah you you just worry to me him and Lamar like I understand this isn't 1987 and Ronnie lot hitting you every play but you're still getting hit pretty hard and these guys have never been faster I would imagine the body fat on the average Defender has never been lower right so so the compact nature of these guys and the speeds have never been faster both of them are you know similar AG 27 to 29 years old you just wonder like how long and I don't blame them how would they not be confident running because they know it works but one time you're going to get a hit and you're not going to get up and something's going to be sh we we've seen it happen to Rogers earlier in his career breaks you're done Dre blo almost died in a football field when he got laid out Drew bledo 65 and a half 230 I mean just it's the re I mean Cam Newton's career 32 he was done Cam's huge now for a segment called making it look easy brought to you by Morgan and Morgan America's largest injury Law Firm today Josh Allen made it look easy uh four touchdowns total 271 total yards just like Josh made it look easy Morgan and Morgan make it so easy to submit a claim they have over 100 offices Nationwide more than 800 lawyers with over $15 billion do recovered for over 300,000 clients Morgan and Morgan has aen track record of fighting to get you full and fair compensation Morgan and Morgan been fighting for the people for over 35 years if you're ever injured go to forthepeople.com or dial pound 529 to check out America's largest injury Law Firm winning in the NFL is hard but hiring Morgan and Morgan is easy do you Bryce Young & Will Levis are busts think you you're uh I kind of like your thing about by the second year Thanksgiving it's like yeah we're kind of out the Panthers thing I know goty a lot of no will Lis Bryce young I watched today I'm like I don't think it works I don't think it works this is why I like the Saints I'm like people are hard on Derek he was bad for a lot of last year well he gets a shaneah hand guy when he gets a good offensive coach I think they got a good defense I'm like you watch saints were my pick to win the division now I know understand they're playing the Panthers but what did Derek carrl look like today really good through three touchdowns he looks good and Bryce young looked like lost someone that shouldn't be on a field one physically one physically he's the smallest looking guy in the league by a at that position because even Kyler at the moment's notice he can take off Bryce can't arm's not great and then he's clearly not that accurate so that's right to going for well will Levis today there was a play when will Levis was rolling right and he is too muscular he was rolling right and he should have just rolled and thrown it he rolled sat H and I'm like Will You Gotta Throw on the move you can't set every time you throw the football you got to be able to run and just sling it and I watched will L today he's not he's too rigid he's too tight he's not fluid he's not going to make it in this leag didn't the GM tell you that his pictures at the combine were like what is this guy doing like get out of the waight room bro dude he he's not a fluid thrower everything is just like solid he everything's mechanical he's not going to work in this leak everything needs set up and he's got these weird ticks when he throws it it's like he watch he looks at himself in the mirror too much he likes to look pretty when he throws dude sometimes this shit's ugly move throw it and Bryce young to your point I thought he was incredibly accurate he's not not close he missed two guys today by eight yards open I mean missed them badly it's like okay you can't that's the NFL and Caleb by the way missed a couple of open guys that was a little problematic but Bryce young tell like Bryce you don't have the size you have to be accurate that's it for you like B Knicks has to be accurate he's not he's not 65 and running over people will Levis too mechanical not going to work Daniel Jones too mechanical doesn't see the field not going to work Bryce young small not as accurate as I thought I just think it's unraveling on him you know last year they fired all these coaches get a new guy in and then today I don't think it could go any worse because even the Giants like they get their ass kicked everyone thought Daniel Jones is awful like no one people like oh let's give Bryce a kind of a mulligan he gets his offense play caller before you even blink it's 20 to nothing balls are flying over honey badger and all the DBS are laughing I mean they weren't even close and that's the thing like deshun Watson shoulder injury is he trying to throw every ball 75 yards pass like I give Caleb first NFL game like yeah he some balls flying all over the place it's game one Deshawn even Bryce like you got a full season last year and you've played this team before but you that confidence goes you start question yourself and then all of a sudden you know it's like a golf swing if you start guiding it the ball's going to go out of bounds just let it rip Dak Prescott is just letting it rip yeah doesn't mean every pass is going to be perfect but you can't be thinking and you watch Bryce like he's totally thinking and then his physical skills aren't great and it's just goes woo this is I I think the Panthers are gonna be really really bad because that Division I know Atlanta lost today but they were I'll give Atlanta Credit they were flying around hitting people pretty hard yeah Tampa's pretty loaded with Talent yeah Saints are going to be solid like that's everyone thinks that division is going to suck I'm actually on the opposite I think it's gonna be pretty competitive beside Carolina like who are they beaten out of those three teams that could be an 0 and six in the division John middle cuu I'm gonna go watch Lions Rams every Sunday at least an hour chop it up former NFL scout his podcast is three and out well we got one in the books my man we we do and the Trojans look like a USC Trojans playoff team early on Colin they they really I'm not I would never have said that two weeks ago but how do you deny it now you know what you notice about USC is Dean Lynn is the defensive coordinator they went and they went and found like guys who had been head coaches I mean they they literally improved on every coach in the staff defensively good and you know what they do defensively they don't give you any cheap stuff they don't blow any coverages like half of what coaching is out are you lined up in the right spot in the last four or five years you're like Jesus we just don't have the guys in the I said this a screen pass the last two years before this year a screen pass against USC might as well have been a double reverse they were completely flumed by basic I mean like jet sweeps screen passes they were out of sorts they're you're not going to fool them nothing you can do offensively you can tell they're really well drilled they play fast they play smart they're lined up it I sometimes I think people forget this in every industry they're bad Pilots I mean you know Sully sullenberger when he landed that plane on the Hudson not every pilot can do that that is a top 1% pilot I've had multiple doctors in my career you know like all of us I've had bad agents I've had bad attorneys I had a bad doctor like just because people make a lot of money you start looking at some of these coaches especially at the college level John there are bad bad coaches USC had one the previous two years I don't think they have great talent I don't think their defensive talent's close to Georgia Ohio State no they never I I've watched every snap from two games I've yet to see them in the wrong spot to me what jumps out their skill guys look a lot better and I don't follow recruiting that close so I don't know all these guys beside the one little returner who's obviously pretty Dynamic Ranch yeah but but their group of wide receivers and running back they they just look like a well- coached explosive unit if if they were playing Oregon this week on a neutral field they blow him out what would the line be H how could you give USC points everyone would hammer USC right they would beat Oregon today I we'll see how that plays out in three months but right now they are a better team than than Oregon who would have thought anyone would be able to say that even if you were like yourself a believer in where they were headed think how crazy and fast that turned I mean in 14 days yeah and you know it's funny about the transfer portal they did a really good job they went and got two kids from Oregon State Brothers LA kids it was like really smart middle linebacker and a safety Brothers the best two Oregon State Defenders they went they they used their money in the transfer portal smart smartly they just went and got a lot of solid guys that two from UCLA two from Oregon State players who had played together on defenses that got along so it was like the chemistry as they brought they weren't like four guys from it wasn't a mercenary signing guys left and right they didn't know each other two UCLA guys from the secondary a couple of Mississippi State guys a couple of Oregon State guys so it's like the team the it's very unified there is no Superstar no Superman you can just tell the team you watch the sideline for USC it's like these guys are all like were in the same high school class four years ago they like each other you can now they got a they got a good VI they got a good vibe really good vibe it's a very unified Vibe Stu all right buddy [Music]

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