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younger man it's okay you haven't at least you haven't age like a president yeah I know right a little bit grayer than you were before you know having Joe are our our third co-host was equally as folically challenged as as as Joe so yes that's true very you know we we it's fine we're out here we're living you know I was thinking about this prior to to coming to do episode one uh season six here and I'm the only person up here who doesn't have my own show like you've got watching The W Joe's got educated ignorance Andrew's got the green white checkered podcast so I'm the only one without my own show like I literally created this thing and I don't even have my own show it's because you've like because either you're lazy or you're smart one of the two I don't know which one but maybe we'll find stick around you'll find out after the next 90 minutes that's true all right so for Fantasy sake is presented by durh remodeling Ryan Allon tattoo and Jared zuk Country Financial uh for fantasy s is presented for frequency sake that was the four frequency sake folks for Fantasy sake is presented by Clint's Draft House pizza and today's draft show is presented by these lovely folks out here at Atomic sports cards and collectibles we are coming to you live and In Living Color from the mil Community Center uh at the sports card show this week as we do every year to kick off the season so we've got a bunch of stuff on the docket for you today we will run through a bunch of things we'll ask a bunch of questions we'll have some fun um so pretty light and easy today is the fun part mandatory no especially not with with me on board Okay because I'm going to keep you to these actual time slots for for once unlike when I'm not here and Chaos prevails boring I know you guys all right not a fan of content I'm a I'm a fan of hitting these breaks um so uh League settings superflex or no is all that it says here on the shot sheet so Donald do you want to expand upon that yeah so I I particularly wanted to talk to Andrew a little bit about this because I know he's in some kind of uh interesting uh different leagues and Andrew just kind of tell us about some of your favorite League setting some of the things that you really enjoy uh about fantasy football yeah so I'm in a bunch of stuff anywhere from you know your normal redraft to like debie league with college players uh my favorite league would actually be my own it's a relegation type League to where it's two 12-man leagues and your top League we call it League a has a higher payout so 60% of the funds will go to that 40% to the lower one and every year the bottom three finishers of League a will drop down to league b and the top three of league b will move up to League a uh big trophy money all that fun stuff big draft party um but as far as like super flex and that go I like super Flex in your just Dynasty leagues stuff like that and redraft I don't know I'm I'm I kind of like just the single quarterback and you'll see a lot of people get their second quarterback just as a safety net I guess but uh you know I I like adding another Flex spot a little bit of deeper League get the uh knowledge going hopefully for people um yeah I think I agree with that like with as opposed to Dynasty I like having super and Dynasty or you're you know we're in a contract League together I like having that second quarterback in there because you can make moves uh as far as redraft it's really hard to trade so if you don't get you know a second really good quarterback or or whatnot you're pretty much stuck and it's a lost year um so it's really hard to do super Flex I I I think if I'm playing in a d you know a longer term Dynasty keeper everything like that I I much prefer doing superflex as opposed to to one QB but um like you said redraft definitely WB sometimes you get jerks in in the league who draft three quarterbacks before you get one are you the type of Dynasty player though that is the uh I'm always looking for next year because I feel like that's the playing Dynasty fantasy football is like uh like being addicted to stocks like you're just always like trying to invest like we're gonna in eight years bro we're gonna be at least the third best team in the league I swear to God look at all these draft picks that I have accumulated no uh I for the most part I'm really good at just knowing what my team looks like like I out of my four big Dynasty leagues that I pay attention to three of them I'm like okay this is my year right and then I got the one it was my first ever Dynasty team I think we're like on year six and I'm wow I'm playing for 2016 or 2026 I mean because I made some awful trades and I'm paying for it like I had Jaylen Herz and I think I sold him for pennies basically I think I got Derek Carr and a draft pick which ended up being Chris but yeah I'm paying for it and and it's also a 14-man super Flex so quarterbacks were you know they're pricey yeah that's that's tough that is very tough well and my other mistake was I went into uh or I think it was our second year and I had like Matt Ryan Ryan tanah Hill and a couple other guys I'm like oh I'm set for years and then it was just instantly they're all done I got nobody you know the corpse of Matt Ryan yep so now I got will Levis and Drake May that is unfortunate yeah I'm sorry partner hey it's okay you know you have like 18 other leagues you can I'm sure you'll Dre good in them exactly so 2026 for that league and all the other ones I'm good I always tell myself that I'm not going to be in that many leagues and I think I'm in like five I just get thr I got thrown into like two this year that I wasn't ready for love I love how you say like five is a lot of leagues meanwhile Jordan rangle's in five Leagues with him like I I'm dude it's it's everywhere I'm like oh my God this is so much shout out to uh Jordan Wrangle funny fact is every year we're setting up the toys for tods leagues I'm like hey how many do you want to play in he's like well how many leagues are you going to have yeah and I'm like well this year we're going to have 10 he's like well I guess I want to be in 10 then but and he does he foot does he foot the donation for 10 leag the donation for 10 leagues it's hard to tell him no to playing in 10 leagues when I know he's gonna you know donate and um he even he even stated because he's in our uh quote unquote staff League he even uh said that um he will donate $20 per team that beats him this year so he's he's a legend highkey yeah highkey not even lowkey he's the goat $2 per team that beats him that's we he deserves us especially being nice for him today because he's got to watch Sam darnold be his quarterback this year so I feel particularly at Le SRE Dame won for him last night that they did very impressive shout out to Riley Leonard that's fun Andrew do you play in a lot of IDP leagues that's the ones that you didn't mention I actually have not played in any I I've toyed with the idea and I always come back with I have too much going on in my plate with just the offensive players and and uh speaking of that kickers and defense I'm out I I same do not like them at all in fantasy and we just lost Jordan the the big thing is like for so with the with the toys for totle we kind of keep the kicker in just as a little bit of a wrinkle um the kickers can actually kind of score a lot of points in those where because you get a point for making a field goal but you also get one or point one point for every yard so like if your kicker goes out there and scores a 50 kicks a 56 yard you're get getting 6.6 points um just on that kick um one of the two leagues that I'm in with all of us is got a kicker the Grim Reaper League yeah the Grim Reaper league has a kicker but nobody's ever going to steal your kicker yeah I'm not against kickers and defenses like in my I guess it'd be my top dollar uh redraft it's got kickers defense I throw out every year that we should get rid of them and I always get made fun of but you know it's my favorite League we're all you know we have fun we talk [ __ ] and it's just one of those things I'm okay and never having defenses in Dynasty like just because it's just so random um even kickers I don't really want to have kicker Dynasty either but uh you mentioned one one thing that I'd love to do I've been in one League um it kind of it folded after a year I'd love to do um a Debbie League I think that sounds a lot of fun the one the one year I did it I ended up I had it's like a contract league and I had like Tyreek Hill left on like a one and I up trading him for like some like regular NFL guys a draft pick and then uh a deie player and I remember one person in the league is like I had to given you more than that and I actually went back and saw the message today the Debbie player I traded for was omna Ross Brown oh man and and and like the big reason I even like knew the name even when he was with USC because it was early on um is because I would play you know Madden and then as you get deeper into you can download the draft classes well I ended up drafting Omar St Brown onto the the Chiefs and he was awesome for me so I'm like well you know he's going to be awesome in real life oh my God could you imagine Alan and Tyreek on the same team because I'm sure you probably didn't trade Tyreek like the Chiefs did right no no no yeah so I yeah two very tiny men who do a lot of cool stuff yep no I I really like the Debbie League it just learning more college players I mean that's what you get into and like I got Malik neighbors last year really late in the draft and I'm just loving it who you take in who did you take this year uh Carson Beck I think was my first round just because I have momes and I think I can't remember my other quarterback but I'm going to need one here soon so Carson Beck that's not a bad one he's he's he's he's really good yeah I think he'll uh plan out pretty well for my team I think as far as as like different things that we've done with with with stuff is is this came from the Scott fishball and you guys haven't had your drafts quite yet so in the toys for Todds leagues you start one quarterback one kicker and eight flexes so regardless of position you get 0.5 points for every return yard oh my God so if you go in and look in ESPN and look at uh look at like the projected points last year Rasheed Shahed would have been the fourth overall Flex player so Kiren yeah no but no K Williams Ian not k no everyone's saying that because Kiren is a punt returner now that he's going to lose all of his running back value because people are idiot but I think there's a world where KY Williams could be the one one in those toys chats Leakes he was only the I mean he was only the like M outside of mcaffrey the best player in Fantasy last year but you know he's basically a bum now because he's gonna return punts I I think it is cool talking about all these different types of leagues and different things that we're in I was gonna so I'm I consider myself a casual when it comes to Fantasy especially compared to you you guys but so the Scott so break down to to someone like like me scottt is scottt is like how we do the Toys for Tots point system and stuff is that how the Scott fish bu stuff pretty much Works kind of yeah I mean so quick backstory so Scott fish is one of the Godfathers of fantasy so he's the guy who actually invented de leagues um and so he's so as part of this he decided that he wanted to do he wanted to get back to charity that's one of his big things and so it started off I think he had the first year 24 maybe 64 teams it was it was small um and basically they played they donated the money to to Toys for Tots and then as it kind of has grown throughout the years it's gotten bigger and bigger and bigger and I can't remember I was there like 900 teams this year or something crazy like that all across the world um he has live drafts in like Miami and London and minota you guys went to one last year in St Louis right right y yeah we went last year in St Louis they have in Chicago Nashville um like I said there's a bunch of live drafts you can go to but the majority of them are you know online or or those types of things uh but that's basically kind of where it started then every year he likes to make like a wrinkle so um some years it's tight end premium or tight end two points or uh one year was Point per first first down um so he's he's constantly messing with the settings trying to find you know things that are interesting that make it challenging that that make you sweat a little bit during the draft process to think about how to think about roster construction um so that's really kind of his goal and then we kind of mirror that a little bit but knowing that where he's got not only the best of the best fantasy Minds he's also got some high level kind of what we'll call amateur players or or non-industry players we know that on our end of it we don't have that we've got some folks who are more casual like yourself um so while we'd like to do crazy you know points per first down and and weird things we'll get there one day yeah we'll get there one day the the general folks who are signing up for these things typically those might be weird concepts for them so we try and keep it a little bit closer to middle of the road just so that the the Layman can can understand what they're getting into do you guys feel though outside of like the points per return yard thing which is insanity uh another crazy thing A friend of mine a good friend of mine Nick not Brinks the other PE other one Pearson he was in a League last year that was points per completion yeah so you'd have quarterbacks who'd be like projected like 60 points a game so that was like one of the wrinkles I I think it's still in the Scot fish bowl where you would get um a point per completion and and negative half a point for an incompletion oh so I end up I ended up like in that League I had Gino and and Mahomes on the same team and uh they had like one week where momes was like 25 for 30 and Gino Smith was like 25 for 32 and I end up just scoring just a ton of points in that in that week it's it's an there's points per carry stuff like that the the big things that we took from Scott Fishbowl for what we're doing now is no negative points so interceptions fumbles you don't lose points and then um this year is when he introduced the 0.5 points per um return yard or point2 points per return yard so you get one point for every five return yard um but then in the Scott Fishbowl this year you also get 10 points for a return touchdown and I'm like that's just too much we're not do we're not doing that yeah that's that's probably a bridge too far hey man it's all I'm I'm I'm all for getting weird though I was going to bring it up like I think sometimes outside of the craziest things like that or Point completions or like I said the return yards don't you guys think that usually the best players are the best players in any type of scenario typically yeah like when I play like half Point PPR like I just assume that it's just fullo PPR yeah just because it's it's see I do the opposite I draft like it's going huh I always go running backs heavy when it's half point or full PPR I'm taking more wide receivers just especially like bench spots that's a that's fair that's a good way to like to navigate your drafting construction that's that's smart all good job good job by you yeah all right that'll take us to our first break on the other side of that we are GNA do a little uh Elton John talking Benny and the Jets no wait rookie and the vetss do you love everything Sports so do we that's why we shop at Atomic sports cards and collectibles Atomic has everything you could ever want to blow up your collections they have sports cards ranging from the 1980s to today whether it's singles wax packs hangers or boxes they've got vintage hats clothes and collectibles from your favorite teams to widen your collection check out Atomic sports cards and collectibles today at 1024th Street West milin Illinois no okay and welcome back so we are back from break we are going to do a little rookie or that here on this side uh I was actually thinking as we were driving in today last year um we were talking a last year our our big kind of rookie conversation was around Jordan love and now this year we're going to be talking um a lot about C Caleb Williams so NFC North quarterbacks uh rookie quarterbacks are are going to be a Hot Topic then next year we get to talk about uh the Vikings guy JJ yeah JJ again again poor guy poor Jordan yeah I'm sorry Jordan so we get it so we're going to have that discussion plus if you know something bad happens to the Lions and they have to take another one oh that'd be unfortunate yes that would be unfortunate would that be very on Brandford Detroit so uh first up we have J Jaden Daniels versus Jordan love so okay I'll go first so this is how this is the perfect example you have me on who's the Casual who actually has you know analytically sound football takes other than fantasy driven ones not bashing anybody but this is how fantasy the fantasy view is a billion times different than the regular football view because I think you would take Jan Daniels although I do love me a little 14 to1 Jordan love MVP this year uh I think uh so love could very well have a massive fantasy season but I think for the upside of Daniels to a degree for at least one year I think is there um especially considering both are being drafted in the same spot so you you know they're in like the 90s or so from what I've been doing in the drafts I've done so I think Daniels is probably a little bit better fantasy wise so I'm a Packer fan I'm just going to start with that did you like that 14 to1 Jordan Love MP I love it but I'm gonna say just right off the bat I am going with Jordan love because when you look at all the team both teams together what do you have you got Jordan love he's got Christian Watson Reed uh dos Wicks and even B men Musgrave yep Luke Musgrave uh craft so tons of weapons and oh Josh Jacobs he's already said that he's going to be throwing him the ball more than he was uh when he was at the Raiders so I'm just looking at it from that standpoint I love love because he's got so many options whereas you go and you look at Jaden Daniels you know he's got Terry McLaren they just got rid of doson so I don't see uh dami dami dami Brown you yeah I don't see him really stepping up Austin Eckler I think might be your second receiver on this team and I like him a little bit like in light in drafts but I like Daniels I did draft as a backup in one of my leagues but I just I think you're safer with love that's probably the right pick but you know I had to I had to I had to say one nice thing about Jaden Daniels I think the Jaden Daniels we're at that point in the off this kid gonna defend Jaden Daniels he just gave we're at that I know sorry buddy uh we're he's got the Jaden Daniels Jersey rocket at he does that is that is cold I love it we were at that point in the offseason where everyone's tired of hearing about how Caleb Williams is the going to be like one of the best is is one of the best prospects ever and could have an amazing year that everyone's talking themselves into Jaden Daniels winning rookie of the year when the the commanders are awful and Jaden Daniels is gonna like jump into nine Defenders and get his neck broken like week six so like I i' I've loved those beautiful commanders to the playoffs takes I've been hearing for the last month it's been great who who would you take Doug I would probably I I agree with you guys I'm I tend to lean towards the Vets anyway even though Love's you know only second year so it's not like vet vet but there's something up there in Green Bay man they just do things right you you think that you can count them out and then all of a sudden you know next thing you know they're 12 and four and they're in the NFC Championship Game and you're like how the hell they get here their defense is crap they have no wide receivers and but somehow they're there but but now somehow they have a they have like a top eight quarterback and all their receivers are fun it's crazy yeah laflor is a genius it is wild so I'm I'm GNA be I'm I'm going to take Jaden Daniels thanks for not leaving me on an island I adore Jordan love it killed me that I had to take the I agree with everything that both Doug and and Andrew said uh but I'm just gonna take like the the the rushing upside there's a world that he can embody the spirit of Robert Griffin rookie season so we're playing in a lot of leagues where I mean I don't personally because I prefer it the other way uh but we're playing in leagues where you're getting four points for a passing touchdown and and and such and he's adding you know he he could rush for a thousand yards so he's adding that extra upside with with his legs where he's not losing points but he's gaining points that other quarterbacks don't have so I'm taking my risk on Jaden Daniels and uh we'll see what happens plus I I believe even waiting on quarterback and I think that you can get him a little later than Jordan love the ninth round right now in in this in the staff draft I don't know if anybody noticed I drafted my quarterback and my Kicker in the last two rounds and I ended up with Aaron Rogers so I I mean you never know you can basically if you if you're trying to gauge in your mind what Jaden Daniels could be F fantasy-wise think of a slightly better throwing version slightly slightly better throwing version than Justin Fields same type of running prowess let's see more like Cam Newton might be a bit of a no no because cam could cam could kill you throwing the football I don't Daniels is a one shot I think Daniels is gonna prove to be a one-trick pony throwing so next to we' got the yes I know I can't help it it's just what I do I hope at your new job you get docked every time you say so on a phone call I don't I don't I talk in person I don't have to talk on the phone anymore I talk to real people anyway I'm a real boy now we have the garbage bowl of bonck versus Sam darnold there are no right answers here there is not this is bad sorry Jordan I'm taking bonix cuz Sam darnold sucks that's all I got Donald wait I have a legitimate question okay is B Knicks actually older than Sam darn that's a that's a great question I don't know on because I think B Nick is about my age he's he's up there he is he's close to qualifying for Medicare yeah and at that point if you're that old coming into this as a as a rookie even if Sam darnold is the is the vet I have to take the vet here just because the that ceiling is is so restricted man the only person who get in there is my wife that that ceiling is so low that's that's his wife short that is very funny you never been his wife so I'll take I'll take Sam darnold Joseph I took I took Bon Nick I'm I I'm not I just I like I like the I I like the potential weapons in Minnesota I think in the right scheme he can he can get some stuff done I can't wait for him I can't taking neither but in this situation I'm taking Sam Sam darnold will continue to always be what he is and that is Sam darn if I'm dra if if in the situation like I said where I took Aaron Rogers in the second to last round I would have uh if those were my two options I would have been like well I've lost this league already yeah you yeah you're in you're in trouble well I am not seeing ghost I am probably on the bonick side here I just I like his upside better so unless if I'm taking you know Justin Jefferson in the first and then last round taking Sam darnold I'm going bck yeah I might take yeah I'm probably taking darnold and then hoping that somebody gets hurt and I grab the backup coming off the waiver wire that's probably what I'm looking for in this scenario who's who's the backup Nick Mullen I met somebody else's backup Nick Mullen had a 400 yard game last year yeah I mean was slinging that thing I liked him at Tex or what Texas say him Doug's hoping for Skyler Thompson Tua get conion oh yeah that's where he went y Doug's hoping for Skyler Thompson when Tua gets his concussion two of that thing shout out to the dolphins all right next up we have barvin Harrison Jr versus Devonte Adams [ __ ] the Raiders yeah great the great sentiment um this is easy for me it's Marvin Harrison because see because the greatest quarterback room is CZ and Nick bull nothing against those guys but I don't know how well they can spin the pig skin uh I don't know how well they can sling the pill dude I'm telling you you give me Nick Bowl in a backyard flag football game I'm I feel like confident we're gonna win I mean yeah he he he he raised a highlevel Collegiate athlete so potential Collegiate athlete so you know I feel like he's got some stuff to him I'm just saying you know as as much as I like the mustache I I might take Nick bu in that situation you probably off the rails in the second segment we haven't even made it to 10:30 I'm just saying that listen that is our brand though e e e e yay all right so we mentioned that chaos was our brand that that was it right there shout out to shout out to DJ's power strip for for turning heel on us Joe said Devonte Adams to the Chiefs and the FCC cut us right off they said no please don't uh what was I even going to say oh yeah so so so the Devonte Adams uh listen so I feel bad for that man um I didn't watch the show receiver on Netflix but I saw some clips of just how sad he was I you know he he looked he was a very sad dog I wanted to rub his belly poor guy um but uh yeah that it's going to be a year for hell from him and uh give me Marvin Harrison Jr all day baby cannot wait I like the Arizona Cardinals I'm going to hook myself up to the fun to the fun IV and just enjoy every second of their season it's gonna be great yeah Marvin Harrison's the easy pick here and you know I don't feel bad for Devonte because he chose to go to the Raiders so you know you made your bed laying it I agree next up we have Malik neighbors versus Stefan Diggs now this one's kind of interesting I think I want nothing to do with Stefan digs ever yeah I take Malik neighbors for the fact that uh the Dig stuff is very toxic he has some toxic Crazy Girlfriend Vibes um and but the problem is is that Daniel Jones is employed by the team of League Neighbors play sport so you know it's kind of like do you want to get impaled by like how what kind of Final Destination Death Do You Want by drafting one of these two guys because neighbors could be awesome but his quarterback is one of the three worst in the league so you're good luck enjoy that yeah it's Malik neighbors here I think Diggs will be better than people think he is going to be this year but I just neighbors is going to get peppered with t targets and if he can stay healthy because Daniel Jones just throwing bad balls uh he'll be pretty fantasy relevant I'm more of a Diggs guy uh I think it'll be fine down in Houston that's just kind of my thought I I I don't I don't believe that that Daniel Jones can can carry neighbors um I think that this is Daniel Jones's last year in fact it wouldn't surprise me at all if they if he got benched at some point I think it's going to be neighbors carrying D Daniel Jones yeah that's what yeah I don't think he could be I don't think he's he's good enough to to help neighbors out I guess is is not necessarily carry him but help him out so I think that that I think Daniel Jones is shelf life is is about up um so I would much rather have the the guy with the with the stable quarterback situation that's fair there is a world where all offseason we've been talking about how like Stefan Diggs is going to be a train wreck um while also understanding the tech are awesome and the digs just comes out and has like a normal season and you know having three great wide receivers sometimes can work you know weird concept so good I wouldn't be shocked at all if it actually does work out and we've all just been overthinking it for the last like 60 days shocking shocking all right last up before we go to break we'll catch this one real quick Brock Bowers versus David njoku I think there's only one right answer here it's in joku incorrect it's Bowers it's Bowers Joe well I love Brock Bowers but for f are we talking for Fantasy or we talking about real football either way in joku is like a corpse running around out there he was a top like six fantasy tit end last year wasn't he I love because who was his quarterback who was his quarterback Flo yeah my dad rest in peace that's who his quarterback was Watson back like and he was awful with Watson I mean that's a fair point but there's is Brock Bowers even the starting tight end in in Las Vegas yeah yeah they like are wide receiver too it the dumbest draft pick that I've ever seen in like one of the eight dumbest draft picks I've ever seen in my life Jor that would be probably number one it was not listen the Michael penck Jr draft pick was not good considering they're a team actually trying to win the division title and they decided to burn a top 10 pick on a backup quarterback but you can sit me down in a room and make that draft pick makes sense the Raiders have holes literally everywhere and they said let's draft uh back tight end and again I love Brock Bowers Brock Bowers is a baller but I mean they have holes everywhere and they drafted the best tight end Prospect in years they drafted a they drafted a they drafted a tight end the year before top 50 though who was that's the Michael Mayor yeah another good that's the reason I don't disagree there but bow is definitely better than him let's listen two tight ends can work but not when your quarterbacks are me and like my cousin who like you know I don't even know who I'm talking talk about but one of them probably is unathletic we went from the Raiders quarterbacks being being Nick Nick Bull and C to Joe and his cousin could that be is that an upgrade or a downgrade should that be my gimmick this year is just continue to like change quarterbacks to just two random people I'm here for that if I've got time if I got time this weekend I'm getting on canva we're just getting like who who's the Raiders corack we got the entire Raiders roster it's just it's just for Fantasy sake like people in their their relatives not do not do that to me please oh do it oh you you have no idea no but do canva and then uh but have it be like who are the Raiders quarterbacks this year and start with C bull then me and just put like a blank person and just put Joe's cousin question mark in the head and then I'll just that's going to be the gimmick now it's going to start and by the end of the year we'll see it just it's going to be like a Where is Waldo collage of people I've Nam till week four when he forgets about it and the Bears are redacted again I know that'd be that would be sad let's be real so I think the main thing you have to look at with this matchup is if it's PPR or not because I'll say right now bet the over on Bowers receptions week one it will hit yeah that's probably true all right with that we'll go to our our break and from backs side of that we're going to play a little Flex Mary kill for frequency sake has you covered on old thing Sports from the squared circle to the hardwood and the grd iron to the speedway we've got something for everyone walk down the aisle with the boys from C subject to change every Sunday as they take a deep dive into everything pro wrestling head on over to the hardwood with Doug green and watching The W each week for all the news from the WNBA want more insight from Pit Row check out the green white and checkered podcast where they give their 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in news notes and more for frequency sake you know what we mean and we are back so again welcome back to the mil Community Center out here in Scenic mil Illinois we are going to be playing a little Flex Mary kill in this segment let's go with let's start with the hey quick real question aren't you supposed to when you come back from break say welcome back to the show no at least he didn't say so we're back so we're back I'm kidding we're so back don't hurt me DJ's paying me five bucks to to talk crap about you every time how much money did you make last year for the uh for fantasy for Fant he had an he had an opportunity to do it last segment when he's like we talking for fantasy and then he didn't say sake and I know I've learned my lesson I guess that's uneducated ignorance right there Joe very that's a bar put that on a bumper sticker UT education Andrew where didd you go to High School uh West West okay all right so we'll see if we'll see if the Iowa side is any smarter than the Illinois side no I just can't read okay so you can't read he can't do math are you are you looking for what I can't do yeah what can't I do Doug I don't know I'm working on that I'll figure it out yeah you'll get give him about 10 years and it's uh text high school girls oh SN he'll be he'll be too old for that UT you know texting high school girls don't cancel no that's not let's yeah all right we're moving on before we get in is that like a that a is that whatever you think that joke is is what that joke is is that a VH joke is that a TL joke hey we can go uh we can go however we want to okay all right so we're going to do let's start with Nebraska football place play their favorite teaml yesterday go go look that up for a fun reference any any who let's start with the with the group of names that I only know one of these names and I don't know who the other two are so let's go Austin Eckler Chase Brown and Jonathan Brooks well Jonathan Brooks is the running back for the Panthers though he's currently hurt uh AC um and oh this one just oh it's you started from the third third down okay I did uh Chase Brown is going is like RB one and a half in Cincinnati I shout out to the Eli okay we are buzzing for some reason but it's fine I will go flex one start one cut one ooh I will start Chase Brown I will Flex Jonathan Brooks which means IR him until he's back and I will cut Austin Eckler because his legs are crude oil Andrew your turn oh man I think I'm going to lean the other way here I probably will start uh Chase Brown I think I'm gonna Flex Austin Eckler because he was injured last season I don't think we saw everything he could be and Jonathan Brooks starting you know G to be out at least four weeks I think he's getting cut or plac in the IR if I could that's fair that's probably smart I just despise Austin Eckler I I'll retweet his or mine his I'll retweet his I'll I'll start Chase Brown I'll marry Chase Brown Flex Austin neckar and and killed Jonathan Brooks so you're getting your Chris Steel on I I agree with blank yeah shout to Chris Steel by the way yeah it's good thing when I made this I didn't put Ricky purol on here because kind of tough yeah hope he's doing okay by he like it's not even like like you know sometimes you know athletes get shot because they're doing shenanigan stuff he like tried to help stop a robbery yeah shout out to him for being a hero yeah there's there's a there's a spectrum there it's Ricky persol and plexico burst yes correct that is great that's like that that's like that uh that game where they spin the wheel where it's mystery and it's like on this you know what I'm talking about that like what is it closer to this side or this side and you have to like decide where it's at and you get points based on it I know what you're talking about yeah it's on Tic Tac that's that's like Duck like um rasher rice we're closer to Black SC yeah that's great that's fantastic oh put make that a canva graphic yeah oh my gosh all right next up we have three more running backs let's go James Cook Kenneth Walker and Joe Mixon let's let Andrew start this one yeah Andrew go for it I'm marrying Kenneth Walker love him this season gonna Flex cook and I'm cutting Joe Mixon agreed just because I don't want to agree with Andrew again because I don't want to do the steel gimmick where he agrees with Brian all the time I am going to start Kenneth Walker I'll Flex Joe Mixon and I'll cut James Cook because he plays for the bills I know I want to I really want to cut James Cook because this is the time of year where I tell everybody that saying insert this insert in quotations ex bills fantasy player to this is who Gabe Davis rant yeah to who's gonna have a great season and then I'll turn around like like someone on here will eventually say khil Shakir is gonna be a breakout player and then I will in turn say show me Khalil shakir's best NFL highlight on YouTube and then you will say I can't find it and then I'll be like well your take is bad that's how that conversation I think he had a touchdown against the Chiefs last year in the divisional yeah he did he did where where Allen was rolling out and he threw that touchdown to the front pylon and Shir that's how Shakir caught it yeah I just watched that game again the other day good for him really I I I'm mad you didn't call me over I would have watched it with you we could have laughed after they all after they missed the kick at the end we could have sat there like we could have pointed like look at how sad those people are so I laughed at I laughed at the misfield goal by Tyler bass and then I also watched the AFC Championship after that and laughed at Z flower so ouch poor guy brutal capital B Ru capital t l uh I think I'm going to agree with both you guys Kenneth Walker to me is like a fantasy Enigma cuz like he's he was awesome in college and like he had his the first like nine 10 weeks of his rookie year he was a like capital a awesome and then just kind of was mid and last year was weird so it's like K drafting Kenneth Walker is boring but there is a world where like he is good really really good again uh and I like him like he's a good player and I love the Seahawks this season as a team and I think their offense is really good but it's it's hard hard for me to be like yeah I'll just draft him because it's like uh I don't know just seems very boring but I think mixon's the one to to cut in that group yes I completely agree I feel like if this's just fantasy Tinder Joe's like yeah James or Kenneth Walker I'm gonna like I'm gonna I'm gonna swipe right but then when we match I'm just not gonna message him right away because I'm just not quite sure that's a very you know potentially we might like go out for like one drink just to see we'll tip we'll tip our water you know dip our toe in the you know in the in the in the getting to know each other pool we'll see what it's like but you also know that there's like four other people you're you know you're out mingling with while having this nice little coffee J date with this one person yes was that too specific yeah Joe Joe Joe would be on his date with Kenneth Walker but also setting up like a breakfast date with Kenneth Walker but setting up a lunch date with somebody else correct all right next up we have courland Sutton Christian Watson or Jordan Addison DJ you go first I made this and still W to W um assuming Jordan Addison's healthy and not driving his car intoxicated or too fast uh we'll start we had a Rashi rice and a jordison start Christian Watson we'll Flex Jordan Addison and we'll we'll cut Jordin suton okay I will you know Christian Watson used to have like like before this year he had like the leg defect where like one was heavier than the other apparently he got that fixed yep they just came out and said that it is fixed they said his legs do weigh the same everybody calm down uh I will I will start Christian Watson um I will Flex cland Sutton and I will sadly cut Jordan Addison because I know who the Vikings quarterback is that's why and Jordan Addison might miss half year because eventually he's going to get suspended question mark I know Rashid rice didn't but Jordan aon's getting suspended at some point this season he's definitely going to like the Rashi rice reason he's not is just because whoever's Prosecuting that is must be a Chiefs fan because they're like taking sweet time they were to they they were since it happened in I guess it happened in Texas I can't even make uh they were too wrapped up on uh Lynch mobbing Terence Shannon in Kansas but she rice happened in Texas say that where was Mahomes Court back at Texas weird shout out to the Red Raiders guns up baby who survived last night against like abalene Christian I think they almost lost like that's a deep deep cut college football reference on this show at 10 46 in the morning but my goodness shout out to the Red Raiders baby Andrew what's your what's your pick I'm gonna take the wide receiver one for the Green Bay Packers Christian Watson I am marrying him I'm gonna flex and segment that's it Flex because who else do they have over there in Denver I just yeah gonna go with Sutton and then I'm cutting Addison just because I think he will get suspended and not worth having on my roster even though the Packers have like a thousand wide receivers the one thing is is Christian Watson when he is out there is pretty much the main guy like that is the difference because it's hard you can easily talk yourself into like and I think that's why like all these Packers receivers had been getting drafted so low uh is is because you know there's like five of them or four of them all these targets but when Watson's out there he is clear-cut number the number one receiver and is a really good fantasy player yeah yeah and as much since he doesn't have his headphones on since as much as oh my God I know that guy yeah I know me too um as much as I hate to disagree with DJ I'm going to agree with DJ I I'm gonna I'm G to go with his answer okay and it pains me to say that but he can't hear me so I won't tell him nobody record this he'll never know even though I'm CIA I have a camera on me at all times and I just sniffed a picture of you do we got one more we do we do have one more so we're gonna go with the should we talk just you know a little bit of crap about the Chiefs a little bit while you can't stop it we can't you can't talk crap about the Chiefs CH Chiefs yeah I we can we can talk crack about talk crap about all of his love of the Chiefs because it's I mean I would I'd have a Chiefs tattoo on my face if my if the Bears get as good as the Chiefs bro I'm going to like my I will just be permanently paying it orange and blue I'm just being honest you guys should get some Raiders stickers and just when he's not looking start putting on his stuff that's mean that's really mean because he hates the Raiders just buy some Raiders yard sign drop it in his yard I know he's not home that would be funny go all political on somebody yeah oh that'd be hilarious and then we'll record it to see how he acts shout out to him all right so last up is our quarterbacks and here we have Tua Caleb Williams and Jared GF this is by far the toughest one I think this is easy for me um okay go probably is easier than I'm thinking but go ahead a Marian golf wow that's not what I was expecting that was not was I expecting really yeah yeah I mean amra and leaport love it and I think I'm going to flex Cale CLS again he's obviously he's a rookie but he's just got all these guys to throw too and he's going to I think he's going to have like at least four or five rushing touchdowns yep and I am killing Tua just because I mean apparently Waddles got some unknown injury he missed all the practice we don't know what's going on and Hills hurt too I think it's just a hand injury but yeah I mean it's not a way to start a season no it's not I would say and I love Jared gof with a burning passion and I know I said that I know I've said great things about Jared gof and Jordan love on this show while being a vars fan but for those that watch my shows and content they understand where I'm coming from uh but I think golf what did he finish last year like where did he was he top 10 I think he was like six but I wouldn't quote me on it cuz that's the that's the thing I'd wonder is like what's his cuz not getting any running there I know you're not you're not getting any running with Tua either um I think the one you actually probably definitely keep is Caleb because you're getting a little bit of running because he's going to scramble like crazy the question is is Tua gonna lead the league in passing yards again or not and you know the the the passing to rushing touchdowns from not like not from like them the players specifically but like the team you know the Lions ran for a bunch of touchdowns the Dolphins had the running back who led the league in touchdowns uh so like it's a coin flip there potentially for me yeah which makes it tough I should also add and I heard somebody else say this and I just looked it up to verify so Goff is bad at away stadiums and he's always good in domes right yep how many games do you think he has this season not in a dome I know the exact number what do you think well I I I know and go ahead what do you think so could be potentially nine let's go four so under that it's three so there yeah I was GNA say he plays 14 games in in in climate control right yep the only game that he plays this season that's actually going to be cold is the Bears in December yep they play at Green Bay in like early November yep November 3rd and that's his first n doome game and then he's got the 49ers in December I believe and I think I think they're the best I mean outside of like they're it's Chiefs tier just because they've won back-to-back Super Bowls yeah they're s tier and then it's lions and it's probably a tier after that like the lions are in my opinion if the Chiefs weren't coming off of a back-to-back coming off of backtack the lions are the best team in the league in my opinion so I think they're going to be awesome regardless but the fact that they have that and could just steamroll their way to the one seed is just it's silly how like how how if everything just stays on the tracks you know they could be again really really awesome and golf could put up another good season so I guess in all of that I would probably bench Tua but uh or but it's really close just because Tua did lead the league in passing yards last year um even though I'm about as out on him as you could be for being someone who supports the Dolphins yeah I guess for me I would okay Homer time I guess I would marry Williams I would bench Tua and I would cut Goff just for I don't know that's just the way I would go just just a gut feeling all right where are we at here break break okay we good we good so 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and Dan while they look at the week that was in news notes and more for frequency sake you know what we mean all right we are back here from uh we are we is everyone alive are we alive Doug are you alive mostly we're collecting ourselves here that is for sure that's a Princess Bride reference for the young ones out there there you go all right bring us back from break officially all right we are officially back from break we are here out at the mil Community Center uh we just had a visit from the legend himself Dave Baker so we are here uh we are ready to do our next segment which is BET on it which I which is going to be kind of our over under game I assume I assume based upon what the numbers are here I'm betting on Anthony Sandell being a cool cat that's what I'm betting on shout out to that guy DJ welcome back to the party DJ's not locked in yet that's okay Doug how are you it's just the two of us no one else is in the room here know it's okay I was I was lost in Anthony's eyes he he does have he is very dreamy he is a very dreamy man oh look at this moment right here look at Doug showing emotion look at Doug showing this emotion I love this man we sat the first time I met sandoo we were at a tennis meet and it was like 40 degrees and we were like freezing our ass off yeah that do that does sound horrendous I called a baseball game once in like March and it was like it was still Fringe weather I was hating life I could only imagine and that was just once I can only imagine how much like y'all just despise ten is awful so I bet I bet it would be awful I love playing it what was the worst one to do though like what sport was the one you just hated the most I didn't like soccer soccer really 100 yeah I it's is boring is just because you're not a fan of the sport in general yeah I'm just watching people run up and down like I would lose interest so quickly Al so I never they never sent me to like regular season soccer games so I was always like those opening round Regional games where you had two like very like opposite teams like one who was really good and one who was really bad so like I feel like the last the last one I covered and it was a sectional opener so you would have thought they were really equal um it was Molen versus P Notre Dame in Washington Illinois oh I can I bet I know how that ended it was 10 to nothing and it was they so Washington had just had like a couple years ago they had had a tornado that wiped out the whole city so they had just rebuilt this this field that they played soccer at well they the the Press Box wasn't fully connected to the stands so every time the wind blew we just kind of swayed and I'm like I just want to leave like that's all I want yeah that's that the DJ's like we're about to die everybody yeah I would rather cover baseball in 40 degree weather than soccer on The Best Day Ever somewhere Dan Dan's really mad at me seasickness while watching a soccer game getting seasickness while sick bored out of my mind yeah I could see why that would throw off your uh enjoyment level especially if the game was it yeah it kind of depended on on the sport like I loved covering track I hated writing up the agot for it agreed so that was like I hated doing that and then it was always like freezing when I went out there for like all the big meats um IR regardless here nor there we are moving on so we have some under over bets that we are going to be placing so let's start up top with DJ's favorite player Josh Allen did this for Joe Josh Allen yeah if he's anybody C of player he's gon over under 12 and a half picks I was gonna bet I was going to say under but then I realized he threw 18 interceptions last year uh over he'll have to be super for them to be better than like what I listen I'm not out on the bills like if you listen to the over under show the other night I told you like I was I gave my prediction I I think they're still Josh Allen is almost now pretty much an automatic 10 wins but for them to to be anything better than that he's going to have to be superhero and him trying to be him trying to be him trying to be football Jesus will lead him to making bad mistakes so I will say over yeah it's over just looking at last season's stats alone it was 18 total I think it was 15 in the regular season 18 I had I saw 18 which was regular season stats could you bring your mic up just a little bit there we go we're back I felt like kenobe there DJ what do you got I'm over yeah I think you got to go over some guys just throw a lot of picks just because they're trying to like squeeze stuff in and he's one of them he wake he wakes up every morning with the case of the effets let's get weird I like it all right next up new face in Shytown DeAndre Swift over under 850 and a half which is a very specific number rushing yards uh DJ what do you think I'll go I'll take the over 851 that'd be hilarious but it would also cash Andrew I'm taking the under I promise I'm locked in I'm just trying to find his stats from last year Herbert and Roshan will steal some work I think he's getting under that that's what I was thinking and ve Jun see if it was rushing and receiving I'd probably be over but no I guess I got to do this had 1049 last year Joe Andy had a running quarterback that's the only time he's been over in his entire career that's the only time he's been a thousand yard Runner it's tight that's a great number Vegas don't miss I'll go slightly slightly slightly under I think 849 850 8 85050 yeah I'm gonna go under but I'm going to say if they go over bears are in the playoffs I think they could be a playoff team even without him having a great season because I think Herbert will have some good moments Caleb's GNA have good moments right but I think if he gets over 850 it's because they're running the clock out at the end of the game I was I was just about to say the over could hit here better if you know they're leading late in games and they're using him to pound the clock out but also their rotations in preseason see make make me seem it's not going to be you know too 23 one3 it's like going to be 6 6040 instead of like 7525 or 7030 so 850 is a lot any any who next up got a lot of Stephan Diggs talk today over under 81 and a half receptions Andrew uh we're going to go with the over like I said I think he's going to do better than people are saying he's going to do this year I'm gonna say under uh stoud completed 319 passes last year I just don't think there's enough footballs uh to go around for for dicks to hit that I know that is especially when you factor in the tight ends uh he ended up last year with 107 receptions I'm gonna go under I'll take the over just to be contrarian all right last but certainly not least Joe's favorite tight end Brock Bowers over under 7 a half receiving yards I mean when he's got Joe Biden and Tim Walls throwing them the football coach vice president Coach man of Valor or whatever he served in seven world wars did Tim Walls I probably pissed somebody off by saying that joke uh I have no dog in the fight guys don't yell at me I'm just here for the sa tiess uh that was great now you have to put Bing wolves on the graphic this is getting more complex it's going to be great I cannot wait it's going to be like I said it's going to be a where's Walo collage at the end of the season if Doug commits to the bit uh oh man well I mean I again I love Brock Bowers guys I'm just you know but listening y'all earlier I mean 700 is too low he should at least be at like 950 ain't that right guys yeah you know what I'm saying 950 yards he's going to have a th000 yards he might have 2,000 yards receiving this season he's going to be the greatest player of all time I don't think we said that it just felt like I got dragged for having that opinion earlier so I'm goingon to be a jerk about it so Joe's got the over noted Bowers is gonna have 110 receptions for 450 yards be ridiculous that's gonna be awesome we have like seven touchdowns yeah oh yeah like he'll be the so like that chel game against the Raiders yeah he'll be the tight end five but he'll just have no yards at all I'm I'm going to take the over I'm going to take the under I just the the it's just not a good number I think it's too high it's it's hard for a tight end to get to 700 it seems that way right 700 seems Rich so I will I will say the if your name is it Mr Taylor Swift it's a hard number to get to Mr Taylor Swift that's a good one that's a good one the only other tight end outside of Kelce I would say like leaport and concade this year to like really Hammer like close close to 800 900 yards so what okay sign him off don't just have him leave well I got to take off guys so I guess make sure to watch the green white Checker podcast Tuesday nights 9:30 Eastern and hand it back to these guys quick prediction on the spot is anything crazy happening tonight in Darlington yeah I think it will I think it's going to be an exciting race I think everybody's avoiding the uh regular season championship between reck and Larson I think it's going to be a battle between them two and it's going to get dicey okay you do you had uh best non best candidate in your mind tonight to steal the last playoff spot oh man it's going to be Bubba Wallace or even Carson josar okay you think he can win I think he can win he's he's starting second place and Bub is starting first I think it will be between those two guys hostar has been on a good run Bubba has been on fire he's just had horrible luck with everybody else on the world winning y that'll be fun yeah if you if spy can pull it out with Carson that'd be crazy it would be pretty it would be pretty nuts all right Andrew thank you for joining us as always y thanks for having me thanks brother all right we're going to go to break on the other side we will take a look at some gambling Futures do you love everything Sports so do we that's why we shop at Atomic sports cards and collectibles Atomic has everything you could ever want to blow up your collections they have sports cards ranging from the 1980s to today whether it's singles wax packs hangers or boxes they've got vintage hats clothes and collectibles from your favorite teams to widen your collection check out Atomic sports cards and collectibles today at 1024th Street West milin Illinois good afternoon and we are back again from the lovely Ming Community Center from the uh sports card show that is out here uh if you do have a chance here in the next half hour and you want to drop by certainly can come up here to the front table say hey um we'll give you some winning lottery numbers uh maybe an autograph maybe an autograph we you could get cz's autograph which we all know is worth a lot of money is it really now it is it is it is it's worth quite a bit um you can be anything you want to be CZ well I'm already a wizard so I've got that going for me EX see see we're all good so CZ I did want to bring you up here um so in the next couple days you will have your very first ever Fantasy Football Draft how you feeling about that uh well uh I know absolutely nothing so I'm a little nervous I don't know I know two football players and the reason I know them is because you talk about them incessantly DJ and that's uh Travis Kelce and uh Patrick Mahomes but whether I get them on my team I don't know probably not getting both with the way the thing is set up but you might get one of one or the other well the good thing is you don't even need a tight end so if you don't want a tight end you don't even have to take one yeah CZ do you know all the positions no okay excellent I am uh as much as you are a wrestling novice Doug I am a football I would say less than novice if there is such a thing that's okay hey and I mean I mean that's why I go on go on your show so I can be educated because right now I'm ignorant see that's how see Joe that's how you do that that now I got to pay you money for shouting my show out exactly are you are you at least excited like for the the the draft to kind of dip your toes into the fantasy football world yeah I think it's going to be fun I I especially excited because a good friend of our show Steve Manders the one called Manders as he's known now as I'm playing in his league so that's going to be a lot of fun uh love him to death he's a great guy and hope to have him back on our show at some point in the near future especially now he uh he just got done with a tour in Japan Doug got Doug's got his first draft uh tonight so I bet Doug didn't even know Doug knew because Doug got a notification yesterday and put it on the calendar but Doug Doug Doug Doug Doug hey Dougan speaking of remember how earlier we were talking about Joe you're say say you only ever try and be in like a couple leagues that's me like every year I'm like I'm going to be in one League this year cuz I'm trying to get rid of it and this Joker over here he's like okay I've got you in the staff League I've got you in three Toys for Tots leagues here's this other league that I just started I need an extra body for so I'm gonna have you play this first year until I can find you a replacement and next thing I know I'm in like 13 leagues I'm like I don't want to set all these Sunday morning and he never finds you a replacement no yeah so I'm like setting all these lineups on Sunday mornings going freaking DJ you don't want to do all this to be fair I've only got you two Toys for Tots leagues this year tell him tell him to stop being grumpy Cy how was bash yesterday I was really good it was a good show uh we did our review or reaction show right after uh so that'll be up on audio platforms later today uh but no it was really good uh the match that Nick and I both thought would be the stinker of the night really wasn't that bad of a match the mix tag no the uh the women's title tag okay uh but the mix tag the mix tag was all right they all lived up to the their expectations particularly if you're a wrestling fan go out of your way to watch Gunther and Randy Orton that brings back memories of classic matches from a long time ago we'll say 80s early 90s just a classic bout between those two hey Randy Orton there's a name I recognize Gunther's the man shout out to him uh can Will American crowds ever match what they do over in in Europe because those crowds are insane see we are spoiled here in America because we have so much wrestling to choose from not just the WWE and really around the world you have so much to choose from too but the WWE in particular those big stadium shows those big arena shows they don't get that over there as often as we do so so no the our crowds here in America are never going to live up to the expectations set by crowds in like France and Berlin you know will outdo one of those crowds guys is if they ever bring a television taping to moling Illinois again imagine that Ruckus crowd yeah that'd be something when was the last time they were here I mean they come every year but it's always like just like their practice shows they're quote unquote House shows they call them House shows they're non- televis they still have the same guys and they still run the same kinds of matches but it's not televised so it's just kind of lame it's their practice it's probably been at least 15 years since they've had a tele show so Smackdown would have been Smackdown would have been here in 2015 just before my wife and I got married okay um and then they did the The Last Ride of the shield which was that WWE Network exclusive Easter of 2019 so that would have been the last time they did like anything that was incredibly random that that was here just so Random well not really yeah when you look at it when you look at who's in the it makes sense that he was here I mean that's fair good point you got me yeah you really got me now you got me going I I I'm old enough that I remember when they would you used to come to like Warton before before the Mark was built which is probably before everybody but CZ was born I've been I've been to a Wharton show or two I don't remember much about him but I've been to Wharton my dad talks about going to shows at Wharton and at uh johnon and stuff like that because because that was because that was the big venue when I was a kid talks about watching the prusher in the Bruiser wrestle that's where you saw booger that's where you saw you know the Harlem glob ters and all those guys back in the day I remember that well as well old yeah but that was a long long time ago in a galaxy far far All Right Back to Football Talk Back to Football all right where do you want to go with this do you want to do the you want to do the futures or it's almost 11:15 do you want to just jump right yeah let's just Joe do you have any any future like any like guys futures or NFL future like uh win total Futures that you just really like that you want to hammer so I'm not a props guy and tonight Nick Brinks and I on our first educated ignorance show uh it'll be around 10ish tonight which is a normal time whenever the Darlington Race ends we're going to go live uh we're gonna give out that our our a block is going to be giving out our favorite win totals but just a couple that I'm really a fan of um let me look here and see uh like for instance since I love the Eagles under I love the Lions over those are just two um so you know just a little teaser for later um so so those are a couple that I'm I'm a real big fan of but for props wise and stuff like for players I always tend to stay away from stuff like that it's not my forte for sure for sure that Forte shout out to him all right we can let's rapid fire Doug and we can send us home all right so we have first more total touchdown total touchdowns pick your James Cook or Conor I I'll take touchdowns I'll take Connor oo total touchdowns I'll go cook Connor's got the potential to miss games I'll still take the Terminator huh off the field issues yeah just an injured injury risk I'll go James Cook all right I'm taking the Terminator all right more more yards doesn't say total says more yards Debo or Marvin Harrison Jr now you got to read the whole thing why cuz oh cuz that what makes the joke okay Debo Samuel Senor or Marvin Harrison Jr I'll take I'll take Marvin Harrison Jr yeah I'll take Marvin for more yards total yards yeah uh that's Debo cuz because you know what now that I think about it cuz he's going to be similar in in receiving yards and then he's also going to have like that's true Deo do the rushing yards Elijah Mitchell's out for the year there's a if mcaffrey that CF Christian maaf get it maaf injury uh you know get it uh maccaffrey might be really could be really calf injuries are are are very Bugaboo if he does get dinged there is a world where dvo Samuel like by week seven is actually the rb1 so yeah great point I might have to I I I'll keep my pick but i I'm willing to be very wrong on that I'm not just a pretty face he's smart sometimes folks he is the he is the the the the you know he is the operating officer or whatever yes Cy if you got any opinions on these feel free to jump in yeah just jump in Cy yeah um I got nothing okay more Canadian destroyers per 60 Minutes wrestled uh Adam Cole or uh the Lucha Brothers uh I'll take the Lucha Brothers on that Adam Kohl's is not technically a Canadian Destroyer oh that's a great point and DJ's off and running DJ's going rogue again all right is DJ going to like soil his pants or something what's happening probably okay I mean that's that's I mean it's 6040 that he's goingon to do that either way but um more quarterback rushing yards Lamar or the field um oh that's a good one I will go there's so many good rushing quarterbacks nowaday I'll go um Joe's making the face that I want to make GNA go the field be contrario I see I think that's right too because I think there's just too many good rushing quarterbacks nowadays it won't be Fields because Fields isn't gonna play every game about Jaden Daniels Jaden Daniels maybe but Jaden Daniels also might not play every game because he will he is he he's a side boy if you know what I mean just loves jumping he is he takes he takes more gnarly bumps than will Osprey I there's a there's a much better reference I could have made there but I probably S I probably botched that one um man Darby Allen yes there you go Darby Allen takes the most ridiculous bumps Jaden Daniels is jumping off of a ladder to go through like planes of glasses I was just gonna say yeah uh I wasn't going to potty my pants guys this kid was walking around with an autographed card just raw dog in it so I went to go take him a top loader so his card was protected yeah you know good guy DJ Jarvis look at you go you're you're such a great man yes man of the people he is a man of the people I wouldn't want my kid world all dog in an autograph card oh you would not who what's your pick here Lamar or the field I'll take the field I like the potential for Jaden Daniels but I'll go with the field just just just to see Lamar's due for something goofy to happen and make him a pocket passer for a couple weeks too he's due for influenza A to kick in hey maybe he already had that yeah never know never know all right tight end U more yards hackinson KD Fant or leaport oh my God imagine if hackinson was on was on the Dolphins hakua get it throw that thing uh um there's another canva graphic that we can make please don't oh man if you get if you get both of those guys on a fantasy team though you got Joe you're gonna have to trade for somebody I don't have either one H graphic that's the new uh Arthur Smith slug on everything oh the turkey baster turkey baster well at least we every time we do one of these shows when Doug is hosting I always give him an idea for a new graphic you do so I'll I'm going to keep a running tally of all the Raiders quarterbacks names that I say so just so so we're at Nick B and CZ we're at Nick bll and CZ me and one of my cousins that I don't really know any of them and then Tim Walls and Joe Biden send me all of these after the show because I I made the turkey baser last year he did make the turkey B but but the thing is I'm Gonna Keep like a running I'm gonna keep a running thing in a notebook for the entire season you're gonna have to add two people every week you got to think on Sundays he's gonna have like the pre show where we ask something about Devonte Adams or BR Brock Bowers the fact that I'll Have Faces over faces just will make it better the joke like I said it's going to be a where's Waldo collage we're inevitably gonna gonna ask an opinion about somebody on the morning show and in the evening show he's gonna like something goofy is gonna happen they're going to be talking about it they're like yeah you have two quarterbacks you have zero quarterbacks and they're out there running around Donald Trump and JD Vance like I had to be equal opportunity here I know we don't have sides we're just satire um okay it is morard talk KD uh Fant or leaport give me laporta based on health absolutely yeah Hawk's not gonna it's gonna be it's gonna be Noah Fant Hawk's Gonna Miss time KD is like always prone to get hurt Fant Fant Le Porto F I mean Fant I don't know how much tight ends are going to get used in that offense he's like the the fifth most important Target Lea easily yeah I'm going to go leaport as well now now we're going to move into positional number ones and I'm going to do this out of order because I want to make the segue for tight end number one because Andy Reid said that they're going to try and get Mr Taylor slift less passes this year yeah and they they're deep at tight end now too he wasn't even tight end one last year was he no so us who is your te1 I I'll go lorta I I mean I think if if it is Kelce that I think that goes well for the for the Chiefs um but yeah I'm gonna say lorta yeah we're at the point in the we're in the point in time when Travis Kelce is getting to that age where he's gonna save it for the playoffs playoffs yeah and they have much bigger fish to fry like him anyway that's the that's the biggest thing that I've always kind of said about about him towards the end of his career like why can't he continue to be great but be more of a grank rle where he plays more inside the 20s and does less of the less of he's still a very good route Runner and can get open in that 30 yards and they're not going to need him to be as big of a threat this year in the regular season as much because they actually have wide receivers that are for sure they actually have wide receivers who are like NFL players they they've got I mean Noah gray is not a bad tight end they they drafted Jared Wy they um Luke Shan or sh whatever maker uh oh no they got Hendershot okay yeah so they got pton henders shot I mean all those guys those names up yeah all those guys are are capable of doing stuff so we'll go leaport okay fair enough I guess I would go yeah I don't I don't mind leaport I was gonna say if you steal mine I'm throwing my phone at you all right we we'll work up the list now guys I haven't gone yet oh Trey McBride Trey MC Trey McBride yep I'm going out of left field hey that's more like right center but it's fine yeah it's not like crazy crazy but um it's just I love leaport I just wanted to give a I wanted to give a different answer and B um got a huge Target share last year I know it's goingon to go down because of Marvin Harrison Jr but I still think he's gonna have I still think he's gonna have a really good year getting Kyler for 17 games instead of eight is definitely going to be big for sure um and their offense is going to be capital F fun so can't wait for it doesn't Kyler being back night hurt him more though because ky's goingon to be running around as opposed to throwing it to him um I just think having a legitimate quarterback for the full season instead of you know last year I was just looking like he had 800 yards their second best guy had like 500 and half the season they're starting a combination of like Clayton tun and Josh dos so it's a bit wonky so I but I I think there will be definite I get what you're saying but I still think I still think he's going to have a have at least a similar season um maybe touchdowns maybe goes up a small portion you never know yeah uh depend that that'll be interesting that's always a possibility plus if we all said Le Porter that the Bor the show's boring true true all right who is going to be the wide receiver W this year it's a great question I'm gonna say it just because I drafted him in the league I care about the most I'm gonna say am Monro St Brown I like it I like it I'll go Tyreek you um let me go let me go hold please while I try and remember who wide receivers are because you know I I'm now I'm now on I'm now on the Chris steel plan of I only care about football from week one to to the Super Bowl and sometimes not even every week so I'm a little fuzzy uh let's go let's see CD lamb got his money I'll take him uh a great other option is Garrett Wilson yeah for wide receiver great segue here because my rb1 is gonna be Bree Hall e what about what do you think for rb1 rb1 yeah I don't think so uh hang on let me Google what are you what are you looking for I'm looking for names because I don't remember any oh my gosh uh rb1 for me is going to be bejon Robinson bang bang bang bang gang bang bang guns up I will take you know what's funny is I've heavily leveraged on saquin this year I don't know if he'll be rb1 but every draft that I've had he's like come my way now I don't know if they'll use him as much as they did in New York but he's been the guy who seems to constantly be sliding into sliding into my roster so I think he's gonna have a a good that was close but not quite um obviously CMC is going to be's got him sliding right into his rb2 hole yes that's disgusting hey we are equal opportunity here um yeah I would say CMC I like I said I as a Darkhorse candidate I like I like saquon I yeah if I wasn't so out on the if I didn't have so much like embedded and being out on the Eagles I would love to try to formulate a take where saquan Barkley has like a Christian mcaffrey type impact on the Eagles offense and they're great but I also think the Eagles are going to be a dumpster fire this year because they didn't fire the coach that the team quit on halfway through last season that's fair so Hassan reck's good on everybody y Noid D he just woke up one day was like yeah I don't want to play anymore I'm retired retirement's fun what do we really doing with life I don't blame him it could be worse it could be worse you could be like Jimmy G or not Jimmy G Devonte Adams where you quit on Jimmy G and then all of a sudden you have Zack Bryan and Morgan Wallen as your quarterbacks let's go oh my gosh Zack Bryan Morgan wall those are good ones that's good I like yeah because looks wise you kind of you're kind of right there on the organ Wallen and Garner mitu yeah that's good very good all right last but certainly not least are the quarterbacks Doug doesn't know anybody in the NFL anymore I don't really he spent too much time doing WNBA research I'll go I'll go yeah dou Doug who's gonna be small forward one Kate Martin um I'll go I'll go uh that guy in Buffalo the guy in Buffalo yeah I'm trying to reverse Jinx in here okay uh you're probably right too that's the thing he's got to do it all I I don't want to say him but I think I'm going to have to say them I can't believe I got him in our in the staff League by the way or was it the Grim Reaper League I think it's Grim reap I got him like in the bottom of the fourth round went a one quarterback leag huh one quarterback leag I still Doug took three quarterbacks in stat leag I was like brain drunk he had three quarterbacks before I had one well I tried and have two good quarterbacks but I had a brain fart and forgot they had drafted C Cale whims I'm like Tua is sitting right there I'm GNA take him Tua draft that thing uh yeah crap who do you got quarterback one Doug learn who the quarterbacks are in the NFL right quick for me all right and tell me who you're going to draft all right well okay well here's the question got Kurt warnert war no Marshall folk we're such a high oiled well oiled machine operation over here I I well yeah it's hard betting against Mahomes but um I guess looking here at at these rankings the question I would ask is how do you feel about Anthony Richards you get that upside with the rushing I mean if he can stay healthy sorry Joe processing I he's he's a he's he's an interesting guy to me he played half a season and the half a season looked really good but he missed half a season right and it's like do I want to invest a high draft pick in a guy who might only give me half a season right sorry I just I'm regretting that I'm just annoyed uh quarterback one is gonna be who gives a [ __ ] uh Caleb Williams that's my hot take I'm kidding uh it's not gonna be him I don't want to put that bad bad juju into the ethos Anthony Richardson great pick I drafted him in the league he's gonna be quarterback one DJ that's going to be quarterback one all right send us home doggy all righty so uh thank you for everybody who has stopped out listening uh stopped out said hi uh out here uh we want to thank as always our sponsors uh for the network of during remodeling Ryan Allison tattoo and Jared zook Country Financial uh we want to thank Clint's Draft House pizza pizza and Draft House for uh sponsoring the show and we want to thank the folks at Atomic sports cards and collectibles for sponsoring Today's Show uh as always you can catch us out on YouTube Facebook Twitter threads Instagram you can find us on all of the socials every week you can catch Joe Joe's going to be on multiple times a week uh usually what Sundays Mondays 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