| Lisa Ann Fantasy Football Draft Show with RosterWatch

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with their questions as well all right so we are right now kind of wrapping up the rosterwatch decom training camp tour because these teams as they get out of their um kind of fall Camp period and they do their cutdowns and start getting ready for actual game week stuff they tell the national media get the heck out of here we don't want we don't want anybody seeing our practices so we're kind of wrapping it up with the last of them trash man this week has been to Indie um uh he's seen Indie Arizona Texans and a little bit and a little bit of rams want to talk to you some about that we're also going to go over some preseason news there's a bunch of news that you're GNA need to get caught up on if you've just kind of been on the periphery and you know reading things here and there about what's going on with the NFL we're gonna get you up to speed with what's happened this preseason what it means for these players what it means for their average draft positions and we're going to show you how the ultimate draft sheet at roster watch works by running a couple simulations uh that using the websites that you'll be drafting on like Yahoo and ESPN and sleeper CBS Sports nfl.com all those so Trashman let's start out with you and let's also say man talking about the cheat sheet Matt always tells us to our producer Matt always tells us to to say this that thing gets updated like twice a day it's like Matt says make sure to let people know that like you update it I'm just like dude I don't just update it that thing's updated like twice a day so yeah it's it's the ultimate draft cheat sheet at rosterwatch decom okay Trashman what's most fresh on your mind is probably Houston down down down there in Houston what was your biggest takeaway biggest takeaway the Texans offensive line needs some work you know everyone I talked to I talked to somebody the other reporters who are covering the camp every day they said that the O Line's better than it was last year but Rams were getting pressure to C strad throughout the practice not so much at first in fact the first play was a deep bomb to um Stephan digs for a touchdown but after that as the day went on as practice went on they were getting more and more pressure um on a CJ stad so the Texans offensive line still has issues um that was the biggest takea away from the offense for me gosh so it was that big like is you know like you love like tank do and like Stefan Diggs is there now and I mean they got all this you know like Joe Mixon was Joe Mixon finally back practicing and so but your biggest and your biggest takeaway was that the offensive line is so bad I mean you know when the Texans were practic I went to Texans practice the day before too when the Rams weren't there and you know the players were getting off they were making plays you know everybody looked great then we get to the 11 on 11s with the Rams you know and it started out fine but it kind of devolved into you know uh I a lot of broken plays for the Texans that so that was the thing I came away away with after watching those 11 on1 drill drills between the Rams defense and the Texans offense so let me ask you then trash man how much does this affect how you feel about CJ Stout the potential for him to even have the time to set up plays to take advantage of Stefon Diggs well you know you know and like I preed by saying you know I talk to some of the other reporters who cover their Texans every day and they do say that the line is better than last year we know how CJ Stout did last year so you know if there's a silver lining is that you know even with a bad offensive line CJ Stout he gets the ball at his hands pretty quickly and he's got quick players who can get open underneath um in short routes so I'm I'm not I'm not you know I'm not avoiding him in drafts just yet trash man your shirt is just way your shirt is unbuttoned way too low how how low is is that thing down to your belly button we don't know how much we don't know how it's like it's I can't even tell golly trash and here's here here's the thing Lisa an that's probably actually fashionable it like isn't it like trash man's always like I'm just like trash man you you you don't look you don't look presentable and he's like dude I got this shirt for free from my modeling shoot but if I were to buy this the store it would cost $600 I'm like $600 is is this another shirt that you got for free um no no this is one I've had for a minute no look it's H there you got to have it unbuttoned you know we talked about this off air the heat right now some of your hottest days I'm going to rock with it it looks like it has little cotton linen blend which would lead me to believe that it's very breathable and he's feeling fly he brought his best foot forward today for us for all of this and for everyone you know I just cut my hair I just cut my hair all off it's yeah short as it's been a long time it's too hot out here trash Sor can I interrupt with a question that somebody has that's important for all of you and it is a about uh we've got something here from the cheat sheet so uh Boston Dave wants to know can you explain why Jonathan Bingo is so high on the cheat sheet Jonathan Mingo I is he is he even on is he even on mine maybe he's on Cody's on the standard and 05 PPR so you'd have to ask you'd have to ask him about that but I'm not even sure do I even have Mingo on it I don't even have him on that might so this could be a clue here maybe somebody is not going to the proper uh format for what they need for their league right if you're saying this may be a standard maybe they're in a PPR it's making no sense uh whatever this may be there's a misunderstanding on they're right I yeah I'll tell you I mean I'll tell you this I do run Sims on Cody's uh because Cody is the one who's in who's in charge of it I am I am it's it's it's ultimately up this ultimately comes down to me to make sure you know as head of content like I need to make sure it's running well and stuff so I I run his all the time I've never once gotten Jonathan Jonathan Mingo and so I'm not sure exactly what that is we we'll run some Sims here in a second and I prom I I I promise you I will I will eat my shoe live on air if Jonathan Ming just surprised that mingo's even on the sheet at all is this what I get for trying to help the people in the chat am I being trolled in the chat because I know my friend James Ruiz has a Josh Doon question which I know there'll be a lot of those but here I am just try and help out Boston Dave over here no Cody Cody's Cody's in Cody's in the chat so maybe he can answer how how about Bost Dave if that is in the standard Cody's in the chat so he can just answer you over there all right I'm not talking anything about Jonathan Mingo I'm done with it um as as far as as far as trash man um and again we're talking about the ultimate draft cheat sheet available at rosterwatch outcom the only tool that you'll need to dominate your drafts this year okay um trash man how does how does Mixon look because the I'm I'm of two sets of Mind here or two kind of I have I have two kind of Divergent thoughts in my mind okay one is that Mixon to me last year I I had him on a bunch of my fantasy teams and he led the league in Endzone T in uh in green zone touches touches inside the five yard line right he led the league in those and it felt like every time he was getting stacked up and if you look at any of the advanced metrics like grah Barfield has the yards created or the force Miss tackles at PFF or all all the advanced stuff Mixon it's not just him looking like he's not as good it's like the advanced metrics say that he's not as good and even down with so many of those so many of those Red Zone touches or those green zone touches last year he wasn't converting touchdowns in the way that you would like I worry about him I think he's about to fall off a cliff like Le'Veon Bell did on one side of my brain on the other side of my brain like Bobby slowick and um and um the coaching staff down there they talk about him like he's a true real number one Workhorse and they don't like what Damen Pierce has done and behind him it's just like jard Jordan and these guys who are just you know kind of nobodies they're really whether we think he's good or not they think he's good so do to to you does he look good Joe Mixon looked he looked good on the field he looked fast what if no if nothing else he's gonna get a ton of touch he's gonna get a lot of reception reception he caught a lot of passes in the joint practice yesterday caught one for a touchdown um another one for a big play down the middle so I think that's kind of where we were thinking Pierce might you know gain some grounds in the passing game but actually mixon's catching a lot of those passes out of the back field um for the Texans so I think even if he isn't maybe quite the inside Runner that he used to be he's he's G to be utilized in the passing game maybe more than he ever has Lisa do you have a favorite between like guys like say Joe uh Joe Mixon and do you consider him on the same tier as somebody like a James Cook in Buffalo or is he more like to you in a tier with maybe Aaron Jones James Connor that type of player like are are you in on Mixon this year just by um by reason of the of the general offense I mean do you like do you like Houston it feels like they're going to be in a scoring position a lot playing at Dome um where where where are you on him Visa Vis yeah I wouldn't really put him next to like a James Conor right now I'm gonna say James Cook I think that's a good kind of comparison uh I like the Houston Texans offense I'm one to believe that I've been trained to think that a quarterback rookie came in played so well is going to take a step back this season I don't really want to believe that with with with with him which she a child but with Damen Pierce not looking as good as he did two years ago it's kind of a bummer because there was a moment where we thought Damen Pierce would be a James Conor uh and he's not so I think Joe Mixon there the catching I really like that saying that he's catching a lot there that helps me want to put him on maybe one or two of my teams but the the offensive line thing does bother me but again CJ Stout's GNA steal some of those rushing yards too trash man what about um talk to us about so you were at Chicago or wait Indie and Arizona joint practices what was your biggest takeaway from there from either team because we got to see Anthony Richardson a little bit um we see Anthony Richardson a little bit last night he looked real good on the first drive right dotted dotted one to ADN I Mitchell for the touchdown there on that first drive then comes back and immediately throws what looked like a pretty bad pick six I wasn't sure if it was kylin granson on that option route where there was a Mis there was clearly some kind of miscommunication but um I maybe a little bit I don't know like I you could tell that he's still obviously Anthony Richardson is still working out some working out some of the Kinks in his in his game I I I would say but I did see um Andrew Cooper on Twitter said wrote this earlier today and he said over the last 20 years every Q QB that's played in 16 games and ran the ball 90 plus times has finished as a qb1 in fantasy football except for one which was Colin Colin kernick in 2014 so it's like if we know that that a rich is going to run and if he does run historically that said that's going to be a quarterback one what did he look like in practice I thought I thought we saw things in the game that were that were pretty good I know I asked you what your number one takeaway was but besides you're number one takeaway I'm very interested to know how Anthony Richardson just looked at at practice well number one takeaway it's a it's a tail of two teams whereas the Texans offensive line looked very suspect the Colts offensive line is arguably the best in the league or you know it's amongst the best in the league um Richardson had all day to throw the ball against the Cardinal and he was sharp um Michael Pitman came to the podium after after after the first practice that I saw and he said I mean like they didn't miss on a go route from the the entire practice um he was hitting everybody and I mean I I didn't see him make a mistake you know on the second day when there's like torrential rain um you know quite a few balls dropped but that wasn't all on Richardson um but he looked sharp um and that offensive line had a lot to do with it but is it the biggest take but is it a is it is Anthony Richardson the biggest takeaway or was there something else between both teams Cardinals and Andy the whole time you were there I mean the Cardinals they didn't look great I mean they didn't look great against that that Colts defense I think in 11 on 11s I don't think the Cardinals scored at at any point an 11 on 11s maybe one of the maybe the second team did at some point but you know the first team looked pretty lackluster although it was the second day that I was able to watch and it was raining um was a lot of Trey McBride on their drives but maybe that was an artifact of riging a lot too he was the most targeted pass catcher in 11 on 11s for the Cardinals but again you know it was raining you know pretty heavily all through that practice all right so Lisa what what do you think about um he mentioned Trey McBride and I think it's an interest what do what do you think this year about about tight ends because this there's kind of been a little bit of a little bit of a Changing of the Guard at the position where we have now um for a while Sam leapor was going off his tight end one and as we as we're getting more casuals back into these drafts Kelce is sort of taking over the mantle as tight end one but it is not this Chasm between Kelce and everybody else right there's this whole tier of guys that you consider to be among the elite and those are Travis Kelce Sam leapor Mark Andrews and then sort of the kind of two newcomers or kind of newbies on the Block right would be Trey McBride of the Cardinals and Dalton Kincade of the Buffalo Bills now with McBride we we we did see down the stretch once Zack hers got out of there and um some targets freed up we saw that McBride was a absolute PPR monster right but we now we can project for with Dalton King K one of the most polished and awesome uh tight ends that we've seen come out of the NFL draft in many many years with Josh Allen and a very depleted wide receiver core the most vacated targets of anybody and now you have Marquez Valdez scantling and Curtis Samuel both hurt not you know not that Mar not that nvs is good but it looks like d it looks like dton King K is gonna be a I mean maybe the alpha of the passing offense so I think that's why he's sort of being considered up here in this tier what do you think though about taking tight ends in your with your premium picks right because with these guys we're talking about Kelsey and Le Porto are mostly kind of second third round turn kind of guys and then Mark Andrews Trey McBride Dalton King Kade those guys are all going off at more like the fourth fifth round turn but they're all going in a little cluster there together do do you do you like the way that that goes in your drafts or what do you kind of thinking about the landscape of tight end this year you know seeing that cluster you mentioned that's what you know you've got to Pivot if you're not really ready right but are you just going to look at K Kade who I think yes on one hand could have this incredible amount of opportunity we already know injuries we know no more step on Diggs at the same time can he C can he handle this kind of workload we've not seen this before will he be dou double covered we we we just don't know that concerns me Kyler Murray on the other hand you're talking about Trey McBride is such a wild card to me right can be so incredibly electric for like four or five games then just fall off uh concerns me as well so no I'd rather not in those rounds waste to pick when I know I could pick up a flyer much later so I'm kind of happy with and kind of play that tight end rette if I have to and not really worried about it it's just so much real estate to take going that early and Travis Kelce I get it you want him go get him because he's not going to be a player that I'll probably have on many teams uh but I'm looking at Buffalo and thinking anything is possible now because Josh Allen's gonna want to prove how much better he is without ston Diggs I I think that I I think that that's I think that that's spoton I I want to share my screen here I'm not sure if our producer will let us do it right this instant but I have it up over there all right so we're going to do a simulation here using okay so I pulled up I didn't want to do a superflex one first but that's the one that I pulled up this is the one I set up for superflex and here's what I did Lisa I wanted to set it up at the turn in superflex because um and in superflex for those who might not know that's just a league where one of your Flex spots can be a quarterback and typically you're going to want to play a quarterback in that Flex spot because uh quarterbacks score a ton of fantasy points and they're more predictable fantasy points right so um it's a different kind of way to draft what I'm doing here is a one quarterback two running back two wide receiver one tight end One Flex one super Flex a defense and a kicker with one two three four five six seven bench spots um this will be a kind of a home League superflex drafting against the ESPN ADP sleeper nfl.com CBS Sports RT Sports fantasy league all those and the pre-draft rankings cues in there and what the reason I want to pick on the turn is if if if you're in a superflex draft I want to show you that if you use the ultimate draft cheat sheet at rosterwatch decom or if you're just listening to this and wanting to get advice about how to handle this type of situation you're GNA be a little bit tilted whenever you get that 12 slot because what's what what generally happens is quarterbacks go fast they go to like the first you know seven eight picks off the board and by the time you get to your pick at at 12 um you're you're you're thinking to yourself man am I really going to right now use a first round my first round pick on Brock pie or something like this right whenever everybody else got to use their first round picks on these awesome dudes like Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson and all th this this is a hard thing to get right in this team I mean we're doing this live I trust the cheat sheet um to give us a good team but this is a hard spot to pick from and I'm going to show you that you can still get a really good team here so at the one two turn um it's telling us this see this is what you get for for going a quarterback is you get to start out with Tyreek Tyreek Hill and Bree hall right with your first two picks um after that we get down to the next spot here and looks like this thing is going a little bit running back heavy with Travis etn and Isaiah Pacho Lisa we talked last week some about Isaiah Pacho and people can listen back on that but I haven't heard your thoughts on Travis etn this year they're saying the tank bsby is kind of locked up that number two role and for me when I think about tank bsby locking up the number two role I think to myself that tank bsby is not a very talented player and that's actually probably kind of good news for Travis etn agreed I mean that's really the spot right there you're not worried about the shared workload going more than you know 60 70% in the other direction I like him this year and I like the fact that there have been some missing pieces now that he's going to be taking up that space so I like etn it's a good spot right there trash man I think what we do here on this next one is so we're going to take Malik neighbors and we'll talk about him when we right after this mock when we talk about just some of the very interesting preseason usage Trends Malik neighbors though is going absolutely ham for the for the Giants right now I'm glad we've gotten so much of him and we continue to and then at the 512 the cheat sheet is giving us a choice so there's three simple rules at the top of the cheat sheet and right now if we were just in our draft they we Aon Jones and Devonte Smith after we took Malik neighbors would be on the same row so I can choose either one of these two guys since we already have three running backs I'm going to stick with wide receiver here and feel really strong about my starting three wide receivers of Tyreek Hill Malik neighbors and Devonte Smith there at the 512 we'll see what happens next year we're g get to take uh Tony Pard and a guy that we talked about last week whenever we were talking Chiefs Lisa and Rashi rice he's getting more and more expensive but I don't care I'm I'm trying to trying to sort of stay on board with it here's the thing too we're having to um we're having now to start to worry about quarterbacks right it's like when are we going to get all right so here's so now we're going to get quarterbacks and hopefully the way that this cheat sheets built is that if you get in a spot like this hopefully it's going to back fill us with a couple of these guys right we need at least two but I would since they're going to be kind of bad or not bad but since we're kind of building a super team and we're getting our lower run quarterbacks hopefully we'll get more than one but we talked earlier about Doon King Kade man getting him here at the 910 turn feels like a gift so we'll take Baker Mayfield because we need our first quarterback then we'll take Dalton Kade and hopefully yes this is exactly what we needed so the cheat sheet knew we're going to take two more quarterbacks right here will Levis and Gino Smith we have three quarterbacks we should be good um unless we want to take a fourth here in Bon knck which I'm actually I'm actually not against we'll take Tyrone Tracy Jr who just got back on the field love B now well do I mean trash man Lisa you got I mean you all have seen bonck I saw ni I told you about B well I just like he he had a pretty rough Senior Bowl right and all right and then so for the for the final uh for the final pick here we'll take Darnell Mooney Kirk Cousins number two so dude this is this is a sick team we just put together even though it felt a little hairy there for a while I trusted the cheat sheet quter the the quarterbacks are Baker Mayfield will Levis and Gino Smith the team is a super team it's Bree Hall Travis etn Tyreek Hill Malik neighbors Dalton King Kate Isaiah Pacho Devonte Smith with a bench of Tony Pard rashy rice Tyrone Tracy Darnell Mooney oh and we have B Knicks we have B Knicks so we have four quarterbacks so this team is sick I'm gonna autodraft a kicker in defense and see what grade it gives me I don't care what grade it gives me it could give me a c and and it wouldn't matter to me okay so look at that it should be better than an a right but that that's that's the ultimate draft CH to rosterwatch decom and that's a 12 team League I'm not trying to I'm not trying to show you a 10 Team league or something like that it's a 12 team snake draft so we'll do a PPR draft here in a second but I I guys I thought one thing that was interesting we talked about Malik neighbors I just be interested to hear what you think Lisa you're up there in New York City what do people around there think about neighbors because dude Daniel Jones threw what 18 passes last week and two of them were very very bad um the pick six and then the pig down in the down in the end zone but um six of six of those went to six of those went to Malik neighbors and I mean that that can't hold up I don't think for he can't have a he can't have a 30 what 3 30 3% Target sh he he can't have that all season and if he does he'll He he'll break fantasy even if the Giants are terrible yeah and I think it's going to take till about week four for defenses to really catch up with how they're going to properly work against Malik neighbors and so I think Daniel Jones will take advantage of that as much as he can but the talk here is really how exciting it is to have the leak neighbors and to also feel the missing Gap with those saquan Barkley and the uncertainty of Daniel Jones and his health I mean let's face it he hasn't played a full season this is a real concern and like the common talk about it on Hard Knocks just like Hey we're talking about this honestly like we have to look at this unemotionally you haven't played a full season and these injuries start to pile up so there's those concerns and then with each injury we know that the player comes back 10% less secure when they're first back out there on the field and they're a little bit more favoring one thing doing the other and it just piles up that's a concern I think bik neighbors is going to be highly drafted and the expectations are going to be way higher than anything he could potentially produce as I think things will SL siber down for him midseason I'll draft him just because I want to watch him I want to have him on one or two of my team but I do not like drafting a wide receiver or a tight end in New York when I'm relying on Daniel Jones no I mean I I get it I I think that some of those play Trash man's just like all right so trash man is just of course trash man has to the words right out of my mouth okay you feel the same oh yeah absolutely I mean just like and it's have been a little bit hesitant about neighbors like he's tied to the quarterback he's tied to and that that matters that matters you can be as good as you want but you're not throwing yourself the ball man all right well what about somebody who's not gonna have to be catching the ball the whole time and Devon single ter because if you look at his usage whenever Daniel Jones was out there with the ones I think he missed three three snaps I mean he now Tyrone Tracy who we took in that draft just now was hurt last week and so if you haven't been paying it paying attention to what going on um there's a sort of a battle going on for the number two in New York behind Devin single ter and that's happening between Tyrone Tracy the um the the rookie where out out of Purdue Shrine Shrine bowler and then uh Eric gray who I believe is a is he a second or third year he was a senior bowler out of Oklahoma but before that he was at Tennesse a Senior Bowl the same I think it was two years ago right I think this might be his third he's either a second or third year guy Eric Ray really good pass catcher um and who's been producing in the in the preseason whenever Tyrone Tracy's been hurt but I mean they brought single ter in for a reason can't miss Mitch was there he was saying that dude it looks like it kind kind of looks it looks like motor's job to me does it matter to you trash man it was last year just a total flash in the pan for him down in Houston I I mean I don't think so I think he's a he's a serviceable running back I mean I I think he fits with the Giants offic what they're trying to do and what they're going to have to need to do which is dump the ball off to a running back um who can make things happen um with his feet and who can catch the ball and I think you know single ter fits the bill I don't I don't think you need a grinder would necessarily work for that Giants offense but I I I think single ter fits all right so staying in the NFC East maybe we should talk about I guess this isn't really preseason stuff but it it was a a trade that occurred yesterday which dude Jan doson man they they must they're just like they're kicking to the curb dude they they straight gave up on a former first round pick did the commanders uh trading him away in division to the Philadelphia Eagles um they got back so what what were the terms they sent they got they got they got round they got a fifth rounder next year and two others for the following year two Sev but then they but but they but but they had to give up but but the Eagles gave up a third third and then they got back a fifth two two seventh or something like this right um but but still I mean it's like does this does this I guess can we call him a bust I don't know like I guess that's probably not for us to talk about for what's what's for us to talk about is what this means for the remaining players in the Washington com commanders um does it make you like Terry McClaren more does it maybe make you I I trash maybe this is a trash man question can you just hold your nose and draft like dami brown or Olam zakus or God forbid Luke mcaffrey or even more God forbid Cody's guy who he says is the team leader down there on offense Zack her yeah you can because no one else is gonna be drafting them true I mean like you can take them late in your draft it's not it's not they're not gonna come at a great expense so yeah go ahead take a chance no don't do that don't draft any of these guys don't listen to the trash man Lisa what what do you think what do you think hey we get an extra bench position in our in our league now this year we added that you know did that vote go through I'm guessing Okay I'm not sure those guys those chicken L those chicken littles in that League are gonna give us an extra bench spot um Lisa what about does this do anything to you well any thoughts you have on the commander side of this transaction is fine but does this give you any thoughts definitely is going to open me up to even more affection for uh Scary Terry Terry mcen um but I'm wondering like what was it was it something in the locker room that wasn't vibing or did they just feel they couldn't bring out the best at him because dachon that high draft pick actually makes me feel like there's something there that hasn't been tapped into we've seen players go to other teams be put in a different coaching system in a different wellness program change their body chemistry a bit and shine and I think Philly is a great home because they're not in a rush to use him all the time right now they're stacked in the wide receiver room the question is is he going to make the cut and what will he bring to the team when like when or when are we when are we going to be using him who's going to draft him are you just going to be a wait and see kind of waiver-wire thing like let's leave him there he does something we'll pick him up like I just would be doesn't seem like he could bring you enough value week one to week five in your fantasy matchups well he's from he's from Penn State I wonder if he's like maybe from the area or closer to home maybe a reset kind of getting you know what I mean they probably had they clearly you know these these teams regionally where they have their Regional Scouts with universities close by they get an extra look at they get to know him better maybe they know something about the kind of guy he is and's from New Jersey okay so I mean look I'm from Texas I don't really know like but Lisa that's that's close right I mean it's all close we're we're we're considered the tri state area New New Jersey New York Pennsylvania we're all really connected okay yeah U so the uh the on the so but so this doesn't worry you about like AJ Brown or Devonte Smith or like the people have been vying for a third wide to be a third wide receiver option uh for the Eagles ever since they have had Devonte Smith and AJ Brown and it's like it's been one of the most concentrated Target it's Target shares there is it's kind of like how Wadd and Tyreek Hill have been when they're healthy it's like good luck being a third wide receiver with these with these two guys it's hard for their tight ends to really even get too much action as good as Goddard is people still think he's good but like for Fantasy he he hasn't really been good I just I don't know if do does it move the needle do you still believe in in Johan Dodson like or is it just like still just full steam ahead with AJ Brown Devonte Smith no no worries about any of this you know what maybe at a desperation late round at a best ball I'd throw Johan Dodson up there what I love that he does for AJ Brown and Devonte Smith is potentially open up the defense right maybe he's going to get one or two things here or there but it's never going to be something you're going to sit and feel so disgusted having to put him in your lineup so I advise people just not to not to do that wait leave him on a w war let's let's get wait and see bedon you pick him up and you use them for a week yeah I it's it's definitely a definitely a waitand seee approach for sure um you might make couple garbage grab appearances throughout the season yeah g be pointed out of that stinky disgusting bag of trash of yours trash man like he he might he he might for sure what are the what are the CH what are the chances that what are the chances that diami Brown has a better season this year than than than Jan Dodson it seemed very real at this point I think it's 5050 dude yeah it's crazy um all right two more things and then we'll run a PPR Mock and um I guess answer any questions that you guys have or let let you get back to your days um Steelers Jaylen Warren put got a has a he pulled a hamstring last week so if you haven't been paying attention you know it's it's been the same thing um this year there's been a drum beat for Jaylen Warren in that kind of time share with nii Harris there for the Steelers um Mike Tomlin though came out this week and said he doesn't expect it to be anything too long term I don't know exactly what that I I don't I don't know what that means I don't think tomlin's gonna give us too much I don't think he's a fan of giving us too much more info than too much more info than that um what do you does this mean anything for you guys about Naji Harris you may be more in on him do you think it doesn't matter um it's a it's a kind of interesting situation because the Steelers the Steelers right now it's hard to even Peg down what they're going to be doing at the quarterback position trash man do you have do you have any thoughts on I mean I'm I haven't been bullish on any Steelers going into fantasy this season I'm not excited about that offense in this in the slightest I mean you think about last season and you know how many games they ended up winning they they said they were somehow contenders you know in all these close games they're not scoring a lot of points as it is there you know we don't know who the quarterback's going to be it's Harris is going to get touches but you know whether they're gonna be close to scoring that often is up in the air I'm just I'm I'm not excited about any Steelers so I'm not I'm staying away where I can Lisa do you ever do do you ever is it like all right it's like fantasy Rules by Lisa right it like is is is is it okay to just say man pick a couple teams every year and say like I'm not I don't want any part of it like yes yes totally okay it is totally okay to feel lukewarm and not clutter up your team with question marks and what ifs I mean I like Na's potential a lot more if it's going to be Russell Wilson throwing the ball because I'm not concerned with him stealing as many of those yards Justin Fields could go out there and be the the number one running back on that team and like what week are you going to play I think it's going to be very complex and I think the one Comfort we have with the pit Pittsburgh Steelers is Mike Tomlin h we're looking at the coach okay great we know what he could do we know they'll be right here but that's not where you want to be in your fantasy leagues I think they'll be there on the wire I think you're going to wait and see and I have picked teams yearly where I've been like this is just a stay away and maybe you regret it because some players popped off but at the same time if you are constantly going to be not wanting to put these players in your lineup and they're sitting on your bench and you're not utilizing your bench properly either because now you have players on your bench that you're never playing so I just don't want to play that game I think I'm pretty much out though I will probably you know I'm in 20 leagues so like I will have some shares of n for sure I probably will have fields in a couple of more bus balls like I I won't be doing much Russell Wilson I just don't know how I feel about him there I mean honestly Fri myth might be the best value on that team on that roster as far as that's that's what Cody keeps saying I mean he I see Cody in the chat I mean he he was just at Steelers camp and he saying it's Russ by a long shot with Fields goal line package he says we know that so if that's the case that's the case you're hearing from Cody he's been out out at practice but he was saying like if there's a Steeler I'm taking his Pat FY youth he says he's probably going to lead the team in targets so it's like um I'm I'm I'm interested in farth but that's about it but I'm I'm with Lisa about and this is kind of a trash man Doctrine trash man likes to use the those bottom of his roster spots as just just nasty recycling bins he just brings guys in and out in and out and Lisa you can what you said it's true it's it's a fantasy trap of like the golden handcuff sort of trap where it's like somebody's just good enough to where you're like man if I drop this guy somebody's going to pick him up off of waivers but I'm not I'm I'm never going to put him in my starting roster all the rest of it dude you need to have those spots freed up to take shots on high upside dudes every single week on on on the waiver wire like and and an an open an open spot that you can use for waivers is a very valuable tool in fantasy so I think that's an astute point that you bring up there um trash man you're a disgusting individual but but I do I I I I do have to say that um in putting together these these cheat sheets there are a few of your favorite players that are popping up on some of them I'm trying to get to the uh trying to get to this one I I know you're a big Bree hall guy and this one is uh so this is a PPR uh let's get it up on the screen we have so this is PPR version 7.4 of the cheat sheet is what's up right now the ultimate draft cheat sheet at rosterwatch dcom I randomly on the on this simulator got the seventh spot and I was lucky to see Bree Hall fall here to the seventh it feels kind of like a gift sometimes bejon Robinson Falls and I like getting him there but Bree Hall here feels really really good again what I've done is I've taken the ultimate draft sheat sheet and I've just put it into this Draft simulator so it will tell us with each pick as the simulation goes on what the sheat sheet will be telling us to do so with the first pick here in this 12 Team league where we have one quarterback two running backs two wide receivers one tight end two Flex a defensive kicker and one two three four five six bench spots drafting against all of the major uh sites this is what the cheat sheet would tell you to do and this is the kind of team that you're going to end up with whenever you use the ultimate draft cheat sheet at rosterwatch dcom Bree Hall is our pick here at the 107 all right coming into the 206 trash man I got to hear your thoughts on this I know that you didn't see him that much I in in in the rain but Marvin Harrison Jr is technically a value on him are you maybe a little bit Goosey after this training camp period are you willing to say man I didn't see that much of mhj but we do know that they're taking extra care of him and it was raining super hard and all the rest during during that day of practice no I'm willing to say that it maybe it was just a weird day for the offense in that rain you know on the road yeah I I he did catch a touchdown I was in one-on ones well I mean in one of the red own packages you know that they were doing um the and the they were going with the Colt defense secondary but yeah so like I'm willing to say that it was just a weird day for the man we just do so much work scouting these players and going to watch them it's like I have a hard time believing this guy's not going to be very very very good so um all right 307 we take Devon H in Lisa we talked about it last week right it's like you get the chance get the chance to have sh and you can um it's like you worry a little you worry a little bit but it's like for every bit of worry you have it's like you're saying last week you got like a like for every ounce of worry man you got like a pound of excitement with with with this dude right like he could go he could go bananas uh it's giv me the choice here between Alvin chra and Jaylen Wadd uh Jaylen waddle a little bit banged up right now but I don't care and whenever I'm doing these simulations I always like to kind of keep the balance so um I Beed I'm going to take Jaylen Wadd but are you are you back in on are you in on Alvin cha at all this year Lisa just out of curiosity um I I would be fine taking him here the chii's giving me the choice I'm only going Wadd to help balance out the roster and get and get more dolphins on this thing but um I I think it's gonna be rough sleding for New Orleans so I I would rather go waddle right there it's the offense that I think it's the strength of that offense more than anything I thought was going to get a lot more after you know him coming back after that rest of being suspended for a couple of games like all those little things didn't add up to be much but i' I'd be definitely happier in Miami I mean I don't hate him just because of the shape of the rest of that running back Denis Allen hates kendre Miller he says I don't know if he's ever gonna learn the system because he can't ever get on the field he's just he's straight up taking that's true yeah you that's that's something really to think about and consider you're right because he hasn't been able to be out there at all yet right this season another injury after another injury no no no he's like uh he just he like it's the same it's like it's so tilting Lisa because at first it was the it was the MCL then he came back and it's the miniscus and then all last season it was coming back from the miniscus there was like what's that type of injury where a compensation injury where he was compensating for his miniscus with his hamstring and then his hamstring and then now that it's like the same hamstring he's just he's he's been hurt for like two years it's like unbelievable and he's really good but they just you know da hates him and so I think it's good for C it's probably also good for Tamm Hill who I just found out yesterday on on Yahoo he has he has tight end eligibility which is a kind of an interesting thing there uh we we already talked about Malik neighbors if you use the chich sheet you're gonna get a good bit of Malik neighbors and then at the 606 we're GNA take Rashi rice so we start out with two running backs um four wide receivers here in this setup hopefully I trust the cheat sheet is going to get us back balanced yep that's what it does so the 707 we take Tony Pard here and then a guy that I'm not sure we've talked about him a lot dude but doesn't javante Williams with at the 806 feel like a good value to you gu like feels like these people are still acting like he's has a chance to lose his job like Shawn Peyton talks about him like he's the lead back yeah we talked about him and you know kind of fit starts and like yeah I was just a lot of scuttlebutt a lot of not much else going on in training camp so where we're having to question javante Williams I think he's shown that he's the lead back there and the coach has shown that he's the lead back there more importantly so yeah I think I think you're getting value on him there potentially this is an interesting one and a guy that we don't get too much here on the PPR cheat sheet with the 9007 I I'm kind of interested in Gus Edwards at this point I mean looks like he's gonna be the starter for the Chargers Lisa do you do you agree with the narrative that most people have coming out of this preseason that based on their utilization of their wide receivers and some of the Personnel that they have out there and just based on the actual what we've seen on the field that they're going to be a very run heavy team kind of like Harbaugh was back when he was at Michigan yep agreed uh Gus Edwards will he make it through the entire season at a run heavy team probably not be prepared for that but uh definitely gonna use him while he's out there we're gonna take him and we'll take Jameson Williams in the 10th round um oh look at this man so Jaylen Wright this is interesting you know this isn't really by Design here guys but since we're s kind of back filling here with some running back depth since we only went two running backs and we kind of went super team at wide receiver Jaylen Wright he's technically H CH handcuff so I mean we'll just we'll take him here and just lock up the Miami running back situation and then um it looks like this this Brandon Cooks and the David and joku stuff this is actually a tie so we can take David and joku here and fill up our tight end slot Brandon Cooks is going to fall through us here again and I think for our 14th pick in the 14th round it's going to give us well dude it says to take Jared gof but since we have Wadd and H you gotta take two he's so look we say don't break the rules and don't cheat and all this but if you're down here and it's something like this where you can do take take Tua and just you know you you you you've already had some of your Ducks here in this in this basket it's not too many but yeah man get that stack going on so here's here here's that team again I followed the three simp rules at the top of the sheet of paper the only time I I broke it was I I I broke it by one by one player right right at the very end that's okay if you want to do it so this team is two of Bree Hall Devon H and Marvin Harrison Jr Jaylen WD David and joku Malik neighbors and rashy rice the bench is really strong with these running backs Tony Paul Javonte Williams Gus Edwards Jameson Williams jayen Wright and Brandon Cooks so I'll autodraft a kicker in defense if it look if it doesn't give me a good grade it doesn't give me a good grade but that's a sick team I'm going to war with it every single time but it does give me an A+ 98 out of 100 so uh and look at this some 100s out of 100s so that's a that's a good grade um anyway it's the ultimate draft cheat sheet at rosterwatch decom again all I'm doing is following the three Simple Rules up there on the top of the sheet of paper all right Lisa we're up against it one final uh it's National draft weekend okay so trash man I want to hear from you I want to hear from Lisa one final tip it can be about a player it can be about a methodology it can be about don't get drunk it can just like what what's what's one final bit of advice you want to give these people before they go into their fantasy drafts I'm gonna give two because you mentioned one so it wouldn't be original but don't drink in draft wait till after your drafted drink I am the person that buys everybody in my in-person drink draft drinks though so I am always trying to get everyone else to drink while I pay the bartender to give me mocktails the whole night so I do play that game but the second thing is simple download the ultimate draft cheat sheet print it out take it with you write notes on it not just crossing out players have they been drafted but I always write notes of players that someone really responded when I took that player because now I know okay if I need something this is my trade piece to go to Justin's team and say hey I remember in the draft you really wanted this player pay attention take the ultimate draft cheat sheet with you and take your notes all right trash man for me this is not just the draft but throughout the season you touched on it earlier I always like to have one roster spot one bench spot that I'm willing to let go of on a moment's notice so make sure you have one spot one position where you're just like okay I need somebody to add somebody from the waiver I can drop this guy every week you know so you're saying so in order to do that at your draft don't feel weird about taking a taking a wild flyer on some guy at the very and it's just a total upside dude that you find something out in week one and you don't mind just throwing them out right make sure that you you take one oh yeah and or just at least after you done your draft make sure um you notice the one play or one position where you can do that you know and in the uing week all right well Lisa Lisa and stole mine so so I'll just say go uh I'll say this go to roster watch.com Lisa man and I will I will um I will second her thoughts man you get like you can't cannot afford a draft without the ultimate draft cheat sheet at rosterwatch dcom so we'll see you guys for one more of these Lisa and draft shows with rosterwatch next week I will be actually in the woods and away but Trashman will be here Byron will be here Cody will be here Lisa will be here uh it's gonna be a great show man we can't thank you guys enough for being here thanks to Sean thanks to Matt our producers here for doing this for Lisa for Trashman Alex [Music]