Orange Crush Podcast: Eric Mac Lain previews Clemson/Georgia, ACC & more!

[Music] Hoy cow it's finally game wi yes we get to cover a college football game Saturday we've watched some college football last weekend we got to see Georgia Tech I called that one uh defeat Florida State over in Ireland Luck of the Irish not with DJ and the seminal that Florida that Georgia Tech Team really good on both lines of scrimmage enjoyed it but we get to take it on the road this week it's Clemson in Georgia longtime rivalry so much fun this is the orange crush podcast with Grayson Man David hood of TigerNet our special guest today Eric mlan dude we are so pumped to have you here I want to tell everybody really fast before we get into it this is brought to you by our title sponsor chickfila of Clemson and cica go see herb Tyler and all the folks for all your telgate needs cater needs whatever you need thanks to Lisa n at n accting and Greenville for her sponsorship but let's go it's Football week Eric I know you got to be excited uh will you be at the game or where will the ACC Network have you this weekend yeah well first of all great to see you guys thank you for uh letting me be on this podcast here with you and congrats on the sponsorship that's some dollars rolling in there big dog I love to see that love to hear that uh at any show but yeah man we'll be there uh right now as you can kind of see it's blurry but I'm in a hotel room we in Raleigh hanging out with the Wolfpack uh for the next two days they play Thursday night um and and then Friday morning I'm beining baby with the airport heading to Atlanta uh we'll be doing some shows all day long Friday um and then yeah 11:00 am Saturday morning we'll be doing our show from the field in mercedesbenz and I cannot wait to be there man it seems like every Clemson fan I've talked to is going so I hope that it's just absolutely packed out and that environment is just crazy because the the good thing about neutral sites as much as I hate them I I love to be home in homes I do not like neutral uh love when when we can have home crowds but the good thing about neutral sits is it's loud the whole game you know it's 5050 people are going insane and uh I can't wait to be there it's gonna be so much fun all right so Grayson I told you I had a surprise question for you I was ready for this this is in regards to Mr Eric main who let me say this Eric if your dad the colonel if he was to text me right now and say h pack a Ruck and we're to go on a Mac airlift military airlift command to Afghanistan tonight don't ask questions out with Packa Ruck and I'd be there yeah you know what I'm saying just the kind of Duty is but Eric mlan coming out of high school now we know what a good offensive lineman he was at Clemson what position did Clemson originally recruit Eric mlan play okay I know this I actually do know this because I did my homework with an original interview I had with Eric before the Duke game last year was recruited to play tight end no it was quarterback ah okay okay okay that wasn't until my senior year that was until senior year of college uh that that we tried to instrument the uh the turtle package David that's [Laughter] right see I did a good job I did a good job I was ready I'm proud of you good good to know you knew that one that was uh 90 pounds ago awesome yeah it's about 90 pounds ago for me too [Laughter] we're doing great we're doing great what a start Eric I I'd love to get into you took the idea of a summer road trip and you just max it out this year especially with some new added miles just what has the ACC Network been up to and what has impressed you about some of these new destinations that you got to visit this summer man yeah it's uh it's one of the most favorite things that we do man for for me that I just love every time we get to go on the road um in a relatively no stress environment right it's just practice you know which is a big deal but there's no games there's no winner or loser um and everybody's undefeated so everybody's happy and uh it's always one of my favorite things that we do so uh you know got to go out to SMU which was great um love coach Lashley he's been in the ACCC before now he's back I think he's a really you know just sharp offensive minded guy and he's got those Mustangs riled up and that was a little bit of a crazy game that we just watched them play uh but they they got a w and that's the most important thing uh it's it's much more fun to learn lessons in a win uh than it is a loss and and just a frustrating game I'm sure but anyway great to see those guys I think they're going to be a nice addition for the ACC I did not get to go out to Cal uh which honestly with my travel I was fine with that because I seemed like I was gone forever anyway um but it's always a good thing to see uh you know these These Guys in person uh before the season because it kind of confirms things that you think like we have ideas and okay I expect ex player to do this or to grow here or you know this new transfer guy I think he can really add this way but when you can go see an in practice and actually see how a guy is being used or you know see how maybe he fits or or is doing it's a lot easier for you to to to kind of move forward so you know NC State's a team that I gotta see that again ironically that I'm here right now but they look really good the skill is is Elite they added some really key players in the transfer portal I think Grayson McCall is is going to be a dude I mean I've really liked him for a long time at Coastal Carolina three-time Sun Bel player of the year I mean that's not by accident uh he he's really electric um seeing Miami I mean dude you talk about loaded uh lot of talent uh the question is can it come together can can it go in a game and function at a really high rate I think cam uh you know Ward is is gonna be electric he's never had this kind of talent this amount of talent around him uh that he does now and and especially you know looking at that offensive line that he has that that I think's going to be nasty um and then it was great to see my Tigers you know see them in person and see the body types and man it's just knocking on wood can can they stay healthy can the wide receivers specifically you know stay healthy because they look fantastic and guys just really you know seem to elevate their game um hard to tell quarterback wise you know until it's in a game and it's real um but like what I saw physically Kade looked bigger the word and and the the you know kind of theme that I've heard everybody I talked to from Marcus Tate to barck Carter and everywhere in between is the you know intentionality of his leadership and it's not just leading because okay I'm the quarterback I'm supposed to it seems like he's really bought in and you could feel that at camp and kind of see that um you know that buyin which I think is really important and so how much better and and how much of a step can he take so that was a really long answer for your question but those were kind of the things that we saw and of course just the fun like going up to Virginia and seeing coach e and and basically the the the Clemson Cavaliers up there all the people that are there from Clemson uh love going to blackburg man just just to you know be around the team see the people and you know that's probably my favorite part honestly about you know what I do now is is you know my bubble for so long was Clemson you know and that's a great bubble it's a really awesome bubble to be a part of but since doing this you know all these other bubbles start popping up and it's just it's really really fun for me because I love football I love college football I think it's the greatest sport in the world and you know just to see it on a bunch of different places a bunch of different levels has been really fun for me yeah I'm glad you said that that's what I tell people all the time that's my passion that uh I love of course you I love covering Clemson but there's really good kids at other schools and there's good coaches that I like at other schools and there are some places that are that they're fun to go to I love going to Florida State and hearing you know you know the chance please give me a chance to go to Ohio State and see them D the gy one time but I have a great Rett Lashley story which I will share with him when Clemson plays them this goes all the way back to Deshawn Watson at gamesville so one afternoon get a I get a text from deshaun's coach he's like hey you want to come down to see desan practice today' probably be a pretty good day so Rett was probably at Auburn right that was about the rett's at Auburn under Gus Mazon he's the offensive coordinator right so I get to the practice and and we've been there about 10 minutes and here comes R Lashley walking up and we introduce ourselves to each other and we talk a minute and I text Chad Morris who's the offensive coordinator at Clemson at the time and I'm like I'm into Sean's practice and I kind of took a pick and showed it to him I'm like guess who's here with me and I get a text back and it's an all caps and it's tell R tell Rhett to leave my quarterback alone that's amazing I love that that's Chad Chad says leave his quarterback alone yeah exactly EXA exactly he's a great dude though man he he's he's one of the best he's one of the best glad he's they they they were tested against you know Nevada the other night tested yeah they were and uh you know it was weird too how they did it right because it was really uncharacteristic penalties dumb penalties quite frankly after the play um some false starts some holding could just they couldn't get out of their own way um and you know defense I mean Miss tackle after Miss tackle after Miss tack honestly it probably the worst debut it could have been right outside of they found a way they found a way they won the game fourth quarter comes along Preston Stone just turns it on like 125 yards I think he missed three passes the entire fourth quarter a couple of touchdowns uh and RJ Maryland boys let me just tell you that dude is a freaky tight end he's an absolute mismatch problem um they split him out wide in the back field slot whatever Tru TI end whatever it is uh you better know where 82 is at all times is that the what they is that what they were saying about you at tight end Eric uh no they were like stick him on the end of the line five yard out only or block that was the that was The Scouting so Eric another team that was finding a way to get it done in their season debut in Dublin Dublin of all places Georgia Tech just what were your impressions of that matchup a matchup that depending on who you asked you either thought Florida state was a team that rightfully so was in the top 10 or Georgia Tech was going to come for them and they team on the rise with Brent key just what were you looking for in that game and just were your expectations surpassed were they met I mean what a game to start the college season man yeah my expectations uh were flipped on their head and body slammed by the Georgia Tech offensive line that's that's what happened there and really actually it was the Georgia Tech defense that that did that I I I knew and you know had a pretty good grasp on what I thought you know Georgia Tech could do offensively now certainly they took that up a notch I didn't think they'd be able to run the ball as effectively as they did I thought hannes was going to have to throw you know for 300 yards and and have a really good day but man they had their way up front and and as an offensive linan I love to see that I mean it was counter counter stretch Zone quarterback power counter I mean it was just in your face the whole game and there was nothing that they could do to stop it and you know I think that's that's really indicative of their head coach I mean he he's an offensive lineman he wants to run the football he's a hard-nosed dude that you know he's going to get it going and uh that team believes like crazy and the interesting thing for me is where does that go you know because they have arguably the hardest schedule or one of the hardest schedules in the country they have the hardest schedule in the ACC but does that matter now you know are they the team that now they're adding to the strength of schedule to everybody else so I'm fascinated to see that as we all know at Clemson belief is a crazy thing and once you get it going it's uh it's it's pretty hard to stop when those players are feeling it the way that it looked like they were in Dublin and I mentioned that defense man they were the worst in the ACC at run defense and like 128 130th in the country last year stopping the Run they looked like everyone out there was all Americans I mean the defensive line snapping heads back the flow from the linebackers uh the insertion of the safeties down aggressively you know making a play um I was to see that type of turnaround because you'd love to see it because number one it proves coaching matters and number two kids can control what what what they do on the field and and really make something happen so I love to see that pretty disappointed for Florida State I thought there was a uh a lack of effort at times you know because what what's weird is like we have so many games to cover week zero different but you know it's hard for me to really sit down and watch every single play of a game and especially to go back and like to notes on every single play but when there's something like this that seems to be an anomaly that's something that seems to be so what happened I do I go and watch every single play and I watched all you know 61 snaps from georia Tech all 70 whatever it was from from Florida State and the effort that I saw or lack thereof from Florida state was a little bit shocking and maybe that was some of reading your own press clippings and you know feeling kind of big and and we'd walk through this game um I hope they recover you know I hope that they you know turn it around and you know are a formidable team for the league and and continue to do so but it's it's going to be a bit of an uphill climb and and guess what Monday night we'll be there that just turned into the Super Bowl with Boston College coming to down coming to town Tommy castalanos in company uh that game is g to be fascinating to see how quickly can Florida State bounce back did you know Bill o'ri they're GNA knock you in the mouth that's that's kind of what they're going to do right and their offensive Line's reloaded they've got a great running back and again Tommy is a Creator it's going to look real similar to what they just saw they they got to be ready they have to be ready you talk about belief too you get to watch the tape from the Georgia Tech game and you go why can't we do the same thing especially with what David just said about a Bill O'Brien L offense they're gonna that's gonna be fascinating yeah no question we go back to that Clemson Georgia game in Charlotte uh Clemson's coming out of Camp you and I both we we had had some some some brief conversations that there was concerned how Clemson's offensive line was going to hold up in that football game uh and then I actually decided to do that that game from the sidelines and from the first snap it was it was obvious that that that Clemson's group was going to be just outmatched and you know I can remember going behind the Georgia bench at one point and I I think it was Matt Luke told JT Daniels he said just don't make a mistake because they're not g to score on it right so now obviously you know since then there have been questions about Clemson's offensive line I asked Marcus Tate I said Marcus this yesterday I said can you look somebody in the eye and say we are going to be better and he looked straight ahead and he said we are going to be much better what did you see in your brief you know time out there yeah well you know I think for starters you know you go back to that game Marcus Tate was a true freshman starting you know Walker Parks was a sophomore and uh you know I can't remember who else was was out there at the time but you know those guys are grown up and grown men now and it just really feels like it's a bit of a roll reversal in the fact that maybe Georgia has a little less experience on their defensive line like Jaylen Carter ain't running out you know of that tunnel uh you know the big other cat I forget his name right now ain't ain't there you know and so it's going to be interesting you know to me just to to see is Clemson able to take advantage of that you know because there's still no doubt that Herby smart is one of the bests ever and his staff is going to be ready and you know there's going to be a plan in place but it is about the jimmies and the Joe's and and who can go out there and execute at a higher level so I I am fascinated just to see the game plan approach from from that standpoint um but yeah looking at this offensive lineman they are big uh which I love to see uh some guys repurpose some weight I don't think they lost weight but just look a little bit you know different there and that's part of the growing up being a grown man process um man Tristan Lee just I can't speak enough about that young man where when he got on campus you know we didn't know if he was ever gonna play I mean that's quite frankly where he was and and it it was not great um and he has totally changed his body is ready to go uh and and is going to be a a beast you know and I think when you look on the other Tackle Spot and and see the things that Blake is expected to do um what he has done in his career how can he take it up a notch um that dude is huge I mean's he's a big old dude uh and then honestly you look at the guard positions you feel pretty good again knock on wood that health is a thing and then how can Ryan licom perform you know a guy who has been buying his time uh kind of similar career to mine and the fact that you have to wait your turn and now that you have your shot and you're the guy what do you do with it you know and and how are you able to make the most so I'm excited to see this line I think there's some good depth there too again unfortunately it got developed because of injury uh but some guys that are ready to play and you know I I don't think that we can um that we caness or value the addition of Matt Luke as well just on on the offensive line and hearing from those guys and and hearing how they've adapted since and and the sense of urgency and level of detail and you know just all these different things that I don't know if it's different it seems seems to be stressed more uh whatever that means um but seeing him in practice like just the energy levels going up to every guy I mean this is the camp is over this is technically the beginning of Georgia prep and he's still going up to every single guy saying we've got one-on on today this is what I need to see this is what you need to do hey inside drill I need this right now like it's a game and and we're in practice so I love that sense of urgency uh I love hearing it um but as we three know it is about execution and until we see it on the field it's hard to uh it's hard to just talk our way through narratives right and one of those narratives that I think that has been stressed this summer has been the continuity that's returning especially on the offensive side when you got four returning starters on the offensive line you're bringing back a Litany of receivers you're getting your seconde coordinator instead of having to flip from because with Garett Riley coming in it was three coordinators in three years and everyone just feels more comfortable their own skin is that something maybe you saw at your time thinking yeah this group looks like it's more about not figuring out how to do it but just simply going and doing it which makes all the difference yeah I I will say the one thing that you know is not disappointing I wasn't disappoint I was happy to be there but one thing that was disappointing it wasn't Camp it was install so it was a little bit more relaxed there was more you know scouting type period so it was hard to get a competitive feel seeing the the brutality of Camp right going at each other every period this is I get to see good on good here right now um but you could feel the Synergy you know you could see the execution uh ball getting out quickly going through your reads one two three um but again that that's that's just something that you won't really truly know until we're keeping score until there's Ram ramifications for a bad call or a bad executed play on third down right it's it's the other team's ball now so you know excited to to continue to see that just in my experience alone and have watching ball and played ball you see a massive jump year one to year two in the same system same quarterbacks same coordinator and you you expect to see that and you know I think that that's like the minimum right so what is the exponential increase that you can see if there is true buy and if there is a true step you know kind of Taken and you know just how quickly can this offense get back to you know the playoff caliber that I played at for so long Garrett Riley came in yesterday for interviews he had a bit of a beard and I thought holy cow he looks a lot like right now huh instant Improvement we he's in he's in whatever it says are you in the beard game we'll get him a shirt we'll make it happen uh but he he he kind of smiled and he said you know what we all know he can't wait to see Kade play Saturday because he doesn't know what to expect you know we've heard all the great things we' we've talked about it but he's like I can't wait to see him out there against somebody else and I asked Kade today I said Kade what's it like to go out there for the first time really ever for you and you you can choose between Antonio Williams Tyler Brown Adam Randall Bryant Westco TJ Mo like just start naming these Playmakers guys who should be able to make plays and he grinned and he said it's fun it's fun and and I you know are we going to be able to see them do a little pitch and catch that's that's my question right and that's well we're all dying to hear and see right brother I mean that's at the end of the day uh the the talent is there and I think it is kind of silly you know just to hear sometimes you know people talk about the lack of this or the lack of that Clemson still has been performing at the highest level it's just the the weird things with injury I mean I I don't remember a team that's has been more injured over the last couple years uh for Clemson that is um you know and and just the the weird turnovers I mean last year was essentially cursed you know when you look at the the turnovers on the one yard line you look at the virtual certainty it was like 84% against FSU 80 something percent against Miami and to lose those games in overtime I mean it's just it's bizarre things that that happen um and you even if this can probably start back to you know the Carolina game that they lost uh at home I mean that they were a win away from being back in the playoff right there a team that probably had no business being in the playoff they would have if they beat them they're in and so you know to me man it it is that close but that's the margin when you're talking about great and when you're talking about making you know Championship runs that that's as as small as as a mistake can kind of be and really it's all encapsulated into this game because as we all know uh anytime you're playing this caliber of football anytime that you're playing at this level it's five to six plays that will change everything and when and how are those going to happen uh you got to be ready when opportunity presents itself I I think with a game like this too they've been talking about most people wait till December to get a game like this where two really established programs are going at it and I think the reaction could be one way or another depending on the outcome but for you Eric when you're sitting there as an analyst and you're getting ready to break this game down and you have to be the messenger essentially for Clemson fans one result or the other how should Clemson fans potentially react to this because no preseason number one has lost an opener in three decades and so the task already is pretty insurmountable and then you throw in the fact that it's the team of the decade in Georgia so when you're sitting there trying to craft a message of maybe let's let's not pull the panic button yet just because there is that atmosphere I guess tone around Clemson currently how should Clemson fans react this I it's a loaded question because we don't know the result yet well sure but I you know I think I think at the end of the day um either team you lose this game you're fine like especially with the expanded playoff maybe a year ago there's some questions um and even then probably not just because of the caliber of game that this is uh but but everything's still in front of you now is it nice to to get a w yes is it um great for recruiting great for you know inate border states uh going to the grocery store all that absolutely but literally everything is still in front of you when lose you know this game now when Clemson wins this game I will be insufferable I will not be an analyst I will be a fan and I hope I get that opportunity you know it it it's funny there when you talk about wins and losses and who can win and who you know who has the advantage uh Georgia is a little different Beast than anybody else you want to talk about you can put Alabama in that conversation or or Ohio State but the way that that Kirby Smart has recruited you know I kind of took a look at it the other day and I thought man are they are they better than Clemson at every position group I mean you could you could argue that that's that's hard to overcome but the talent level isn't it's not like you know they're they're playing you know South Montana Technical College they're playing Clemson which if you look at 247 ratings has the fifth most talented roster in the country uh so so the the the margin should be fairly slim like you know somebody's going to make plays somebody isn't going to make plays it's kind of cliche to say turnovers run the football flip the field special teams but that's right yeah it it always is and honestly that that would be a fun exercise actually y'all should do that uh if you haven't already to go by position by position because I would be fascinated to see that um just off the top of my head like running back is is probably a tie maybe leans Clemson uh tight end you know I feel really good about there offensive line and quarterback you probably give it to Georgia receiver not enough proven you probably give it to Georgia but then on the defensive side I mean feel pretty good about those guys for for that wear a paw on their helmet um that would be fun to to go in there and look at it but you're absolutely right David and again at this caliber of of a game where there's so much I mean I was talking to Coach Rick again uh you know Georgia guy Florida State guy Miami guy uh way back when when they would have those Florida State games against Florida against Miami against whoever I mean it felt like a win if you could score 17 points it felt like you scored 50 I mean just because the level of intensity how good the defenses are going to be how competitive and how impactful every single play is um and that really starts with who can run the ball who can stop the run and who doesn't make silly plays uh and it's going to be it's going to be an all-time high uh if you get your hands on the football you feel like it's over almost uh if you're able to have a takeaway just because of of how small the margins really are yeah in a game like this it's going to be it's gonna be something else but I'd love to pick your brain about this Eric and in 21 that that going into that Charlotte game just looking at where the programs were both at Clemson six straight playoff appearance they're heading in looking to make it their seventh Georgia just the one time n National Championship runner up sort of trying to get to where Clemson was and now you flip it three years later it almost feels like an inverse and so I guess my question is let's say your your dream comes true and Clemson ends up winning this game what do you think that says about an off season where all the talk has been about like just talking to Bar Carter saying they're tired of the disrespect they're ready to prove something Adam Randle saying we have the talent to do this we just have to go show it would it almost just legitimize an offseason talk of progress saying hey Clemson has really made a going from nine and four to beating the number one team of the country just what would that say about the Tigers so early into the season yeah well first of all I think it is kind of that that full circle moment like okay George it's over man you had your years now we're back you know let's flip it back around uh no but I I agree with you I think uh you know when you look at all the talk that that's been and how exhausting it can be um about this and that and the lack thereof certain things uh it would be a nice reminder for everybody how good kachavos swinny is um the program that he has built the foundation that he has built where and how he's done it um in little old Clemson uh you know I think is still such a fascinating thing um that again it would be such a testament to all of that you know if and when it happens so with that said I need to know what do you think is going to happen Saturday noon you know kickoff ABC whole nation's probably going to be tuned in uh you know everybody's uh you know gonna be waiting on Texas A&M and Notre Dame that night Florida you know they have a pretty big game that day I think it's Florida Miami at 3 or 3:30 some big games but everybody's gonna be be tuned in game day leads in you got to figure all those game day guys are they're going to pick the the silver Brites people but what does Eric McLean think yeah you know I I think um you know when when you look at this game and and you look at the number seems a little outrageous you know two touchdowns is a ton and uh you know but maybe that that's just a sign of how good this Georgia team is and they've been the standard I don't think there's any denying that I think Clemson has to play their their aame I mean I don't think there's any question if you're not at Peak Performance you cannot win this game and Georgia probably has to have a little bit of a stump you know they probably have to stumble you know somewhere for for Clemson to maximize this right now uh kind of where they are and for for confidence things of that nature um hard to give you a super accurate deal without seeing you know what Kade kumnick is gonna look like SW I'll see that in person um if Clemson wins the game it'll be like 20 to to 13 I mean it you got to keep it low scoring keep the ball away maybe it's lower than that maybe it's 1710 something of that nature um and I think they they have to run the ball really effectively now that doesn't just mean lineup run it down the a gap inside Zone a 100 times kage's gonna have to pull it kage's gonna have to have a pop get some guys involved get Antonio or Tyler out on the edge um you know get those backs going uh but but I think there's a way that Clemson can get it done and I I just I can't wait to see it boys I can't wait to be in person football is back and uh it's GNA be a lot of fun absolutely can't wait I got I got a final question for you Eric the toughest one of the entire segment every time I see you post on social media on this ACC tour we see the weit rooms Eric hey I gotta hear it I gotta hear which one's the best I I'm putting you on the spot not even close Clemson nobody maybe besides close to us nobody maybe besides the the the one your your most favorite let's go besides Clemson I love NC State a ton and and their staff is amazing uh they've been very welcoming you know to to myself and and some buddies that come uh we're about to head there literally right now as soon as I close this computer I'm going to lift there and it's pretty I mean it's hard to it's hard to look better than red and black right like it's good looking for a weight room um smu's probably coming you know that new facility it wasn't done yet uh let's see Virginia BR a lot of one M Virginia brand new weight room very cool it's not sorex though I kind of have a sorex affiliation there um and then Florida States in a in a year or so will be top-notch but Clemson so far ahead boys we're in a great spot we've got a lot of people still nipping at the the coattails back there my final question would be you know you're at NC State uh they've got a pretty good schedule they played Tennessee early in the season there's some teams Georgia Tech now has kind of put everybody else on notice NC State you know Miami Florida State Clemson uh at the end of the year who do you see are the two teams in in Charlotte great question uh I want to first start by saying this is by far the deepest the league I think is ever been very deep yeah since I've played since I've been covering it um you know and there's been others that probably go back farther than I do but still when you look at the competitive what we think and and maybe Georgia Tech put an exclamation point on that uh it seems quite wide open U but at the end of the day I think Clemson kind of reclaims their Throne I think it's against Miami uh and you're talking about the two most talented teams in the ACC uh it'll probably come down it's very similar to right now now uh who can run the ball who can stop the run and if we get that uh those numbers will be electric if both teams are undefeated I think both teams get in uh with the one loss coming in the championship game if there's a little Scuttle in between you know it'll it'll take some convincing um but that that would be almost a dream scenario I think for the ACC good stuff there and I think that'll Eric unless you have any more final thoughts uh we're hoping to have you back soon if that scenario comes true that'd be great I look forward to it let's go baby what we're doing that's what we're baby that'll do it here this was a Grace man alongside David Hood our special guest Eric mlan ACC network does some great things over at ESPN you guys got to check him out in his energy you can see him in Atlanta this weekend but guys that'll do it here from the orange crush podcast tigernet.com we got plenty of stuff on the way and we'll be there on Saturday for the first game of the year take care guys and have a good one