Will Bryan Breguet Become an MLA?? Discussing the BC CONSERVATIVE PARTY | DYLANCAST #3

Sneak Peek so now here's the question all the Twitter people are going to love you yourself how do you feel in your writing like what percentage would you give yourself of being in MLA come fall yeah and that's that's the answer my that's the question my wife wants to know as well right uh putting the vote and they don't have as enough candidates to win or something like this which was just straight up fake news welcome back to my YouTube channel this is Dyan and welcome back to my Introduction third Dylan cast and today I'm joined by Brian bergette Brian bergette is the owner of the website too close to call which is a pulling Aggregate and modeling website I think I'm saying that correctly and he's also the conservative party of BC candidate in Vancouver langera so would you like to introduce yourself further than that Brian sure hi Dean thank you so much for having me on your podcast or video I mean so yeah so you describe it pretty well uh I've done political analysis and projections for since 2011 really on my website too close to call I covered multiple elections got some successes some failures like 2015 2019 pretty good track record over the last few years and then last year I finally decided to make the jump to real politics and to join the conservative party of BC and I'm running in the in the Vancouver writing of vou langar which is where I work because I teach economics at langar College which is a community college I think it's one of the biggest one in BC it's one of the biggest public ones uh in the province and I've been there since 2012 okay well let's just jump right into questions my first question is how did you become a candidate for the conservative party of BC like what was How did you become a candidate with the party? the process like granted you guys are in the growing phase I guess regrowing phase right now but how did you actually get to become a candidate like what was the process yeah so and you know I was discovering it myself for last year so you know uh if people have followed me online on Twitter on my website I became more partisan after 2019 I was kind of done just being a you know projection maker and being objective or neutral all the time and I was like I'm not having fun so I became more partisan and so by doing so I became friends and closer to more partisan people on the right like a conservative party of Canada or or in BC like you know BC liberals or other rightwing people and last year at some point I knew Angelo who's the executive director of the party and we were discussing that it would be you know a good idea for me if I if I ran and so that's really the early phase of the party right year ago people maybe don't remember but we were U we were pulling at 15 16 177% but even though a lot of this was it was difficult to believe it was real because the BC conservatives didn't exist for real until like really a year or 18 months ago um and but in the polls they've always gone up between elections because sometimes people get confused with the federal conservative so a year ago it didn't look that real but and we were you know they were worried about not being able to find candidates everywhere and so I volunteered my name to run either in my writing or in the one where I work at V Vancouver langa and so after this you go through a pretty lengthy process like there is an application I think I still have it somewhere in my on my desk over there it's it's at least 30 or 40 pages of of pretty intense questions like you have to give them access to all your social media and for instance you have to go on on Twitter and there is an option to export all your tweets in like a zip file and so you need to give them this you need to give them access to your well Facebook profile if if you have Instagram and what not you you also give them access to this so that they can vet you uh many questions as to how you stand on some issues why you want to run uh you need to have some references you need to do a a criminal background check like you need to pay for this and to actually have that you don't have a criminal record and you send this to the party along with them like some small application fees and then they review it and from there it depends where you are in my writing at that time I was the only candidate so I got acclaimed um nowadays given how well we're doing in the polls and depending on which writing you want you're going to be facing competition and there would be a nomination race and vote but I was lucky enough that I got early enough that I didn't have to do this so like so like what are the main core policies and like principles of the BC conservatives that caused you to want What are the main policies of the BC Conservative Party? to run and join that party yeah so obviously we don't have a food platform out there right we're waiting for the for the election but we already had like a like a program like on the website right I mean know General IDs some specifics but more some more General you know I'm a well I'm a center right guy right I've always have been a center right guy I'm you know conservative fiscally I would say I used to say I was socially socially liberal I think I'm socially moderate Now by modern standards given what the social debates are about and I just went on the website um a little bit of a year ago when the party had a short leadership race and when joh had won and I look I was like wow I agree with pretty much all your Solutions right I mean on healthare the were the only party were like well we need to do real reforms we don't want to just give more money to the same system that has been falling or failing for for decades um ask the tax you know I mean the carbon tax has it's just taxing people into poverty and punishing them for living where it's called and it's completely distracting to me for the real issue on climate change and what we should should be doing um there was a lot we don't talk that much about this but for me uh and if you go on the website I believe it's still there there were mentions of how we need to probably have better democracy and for instance more direct democracy like more referendums out there and I quite like this uh because well you know uh I'm originally from Switzerland so I come from a country where we have referendums every other week which is too much I realize but I would like to see my Province how have or Canada in general if we could have referendums once in a while I think those are great not on every issue and sometimes you cannot have them but I would like to to to have more direct democracy I think they're a great way to uh to allow people to express themselves outside of an election period so so yeah I mean they also propose like more stuff regarding recalls and that kind of stuff or doesn't DC already have recall elections we we do so on paper BC is a pretty good Province on this where we can have recalls we can ask for referendum if you collect enough signat uh the problem is the Way It Was Written is completely funny it was written by people who didn't want referendums who didn't want recalls but wanted to pretend that they they had those and so if you look at the details it's absolutely insane to to require one referendum you need so many signature like the only time it has been successful was against the HST and it only happened because well essentially a party the NDP uh and many groups organize themselves and manage to force the vote so it's not impossible but it's really it's not really a a good populist version of what I'm looking at so if we could lower this requirement not to a crazy low number right again I don't want referendum on everything every other week but there should be a a middle ground to me uh as to when people can ask to you say what do you have to say so for viewers at home that don't know the BC political system is kind of stuck in a situation where they have the BC NDP on the left then they have the BC greens like somewhere in the middle there is I don't know really how to describe them then they have two parties that both claim to be center right which is the BC United party and the BC conservatives now the BC United party actually used to be called the BC Liberal Party but they were always more of a center rightish party and they were like fairly successful electorally under Gordon Campbell and Christy Clark however now the BC United party is seemingly headed for for lack of better term destruction like there's many models that say they could end up with literally zero seats so my question is BC United Party vs BC Conservative Party how is apart from electoral prospects how is the BC conservative party different from the BC United party so I think and we need to go back a little bit in time like a year ago where you know you're correct right the BC liberals before they renamed themselves for decades they were the black party that would cover everything from the right to the center right to the center and so they were very successful they were we call it in BC the free enterprise Coalition so mostly socially Progressive people uh or voters but who care about having smaller government lower taxes these type of things so that was pretty successful um but what happened over time is there has been this realignment right I mean and we if you follow politics in the last 10 15 years you know that the same line of what used to be left and right isn't really the same you have these people who for instance used to be Urban uh socially Progressive High income people who used to vote rightwing because they wanted to go to have lower taxes but over time they have shifted to for instance the federal liberals and they're perfectly fine with having large deficits and higher taxes so I think BC the where the BC conservatives really have changed the map is the BC liberals used to just take actual conservative voters the people who would vote conservative at the federal level they would take them for granted and like well you guys have no options you're going to be with us but we're going to completely ignore you and so if if you look at when Kevin Falcon became leader of the BC BS in 2021 2022 um he became like this incredibly Centrist guy and being Centrist on its own it's not it's not it's not a bad thing you know I myself Centrist on on many issues but there is his version of cism was we don't stand for anything we never have position or anything we we don't want to upset you know the left or the right and I think what happened is especially when in started to rise and housing became really a crisis he read the room really wrong and there was this opening for an actual conservative party that was you know more again not extreme not radicals but openly conservative actually offering something different from the NDP and not being ashamed of saying you're conservative I feel Kevin Falcon for many for about his first year didn't even want to be seen with Pier P for instance you he was the most thread of the federal conservative and to to look to extreme obviously that has changed a little bit over the last six months where now that well they rename themselves but now that they're mostly polling at like well literally 9% in the last poll well they realize that their strategy wasn't working and they're trying to be this Common Sense uh conservative party so they're trying to copy us I mean on on many issues on the the visual on the rhetoric they're using but you know people are not stupid they're not buying what the BC United are selling and we live in an era where again if we go more political sciencey the center is not doing very well right I mean we have an increased polarization and we we people like to have Clear Choices the same and we see it everywhere right the federal liberals who used to be Centrist well they're now ping you know they could finish third or four in seats in Alberta the Alberta party that was the cist party is all but dead they just don't exist so their voters just split between NDP and and the UCP so I think we're seeing the same in BC we're seeing a a new map with two parties that are well very clearly NDP Center left BC conservative center right and I don't see a space for BC United anymore so BC obviously like the rest of Canada has a first pass of the post vote Is there a risk of vote splitting? voting system is there any I'm sure you've been asked this a million times but is there any risk of vote splitting between the two parties like are you at all worried that that could result in an NDP majority just given two center right parties yeah so I mean I was very very worried about this like just six months ago right when I think it was January February polls were starting to be n DP at like 40 45% which is usually where they over the last 20 years like 39 is like this their their floor but uh we were 25 and BC United was a 23 so this was like a nightmare scenario right where if you made projections out of those you would get the NDP winning like 80 seats out of 93 like that was a blood bath they would even win most of the Interior with like 35% of the vote just thanks to vote splitting so so that was a there was a very real concern and you know Paul were clearly showing that uh the second choices of for instance BC United were mostly BC conservatives and vice versa so we were Shing some of the same voters but it's not the case anymore right I mean polls over the last three four months have clearly put us well ahead we're like we we vary between what 33 and 38% and BC United is now between 9 and 14 so there is you know the the vote sping is a lot less problem than it used to be I think for instance it's almost non-existent in the interior of the of the province it just doesn't matter we're going to win these seats without even if PC United remains and have a candidate um the only seats I can think of that vote splitting might be an issue is actually your seat just because well your BCU incumbent Michael Lee isn't running again he just announced like I think we're at half of BCU MLA is not running again so that says a lot but uh like the NDP probably won't get above 50% regardless but is that part of your strategy is to like convince BCU voters of which there might not be many to still support like to support you as a method of overcoming the NDP oh yeah absolutely and and I meet people every week who who are worried about this and you know we need to remember that you know the average person out there isn't as terminally online as you know as I am or maybe you are so you know we follow polls we follow politics we know where we stand the average person out there doesn't right they think about politics 10 minutes a year so they don't know some sometimes so when I go door knocking you know sometime you I remember I was it wasn't in my writing but I I was helping another candidate in uh riding the suburb and this guy was really really into the conservative like yeah yeah yeah I like you give me a flag Give Me A Sign on my loan and then he realized that we were the provincial conservatives not the federal ones and he completely changed he was like oh yeah no but you guys are speding the vote I don't know I like BC United and and you know that was that was a crazy conversation to me because back then we were already pulling way higher in this writing where he was living literally there's still no BC United candidate so you know it wasn't nobody's speeding us right now and we're like well we're here we we organize and but he he had heard on TV he had heard on TV one journalist say oh yeah they're splitting the vote and they don't have as enough candidates to win or something like this which was just straight up fake news so you need to fight this and but you know it's not that difficult I think because again the data Now is really on our side U and the trend is really good right I mean I'm I'm almost certain that b United by the time the election is over they going to be in single digit five six person they really have almost no constituency left and at this point actually I think but this is where we get almost too technical I actually don't know if we would be better off with BC United being at zero person I think at some point we need to realize and I think Abacus uh research showed this in a poll that right now they voters are almost 5050 between Federal conservative and federal liberals of United so if they were to disappear I think it helps us but it would also help the bcnd DP mostly in the same way so instead of being 38 38 it would be 4242 or something like this so I think we're at the point where we got most of their rightwing voters who would be with us uh the game now is to try to get a little bit more out of them so talking about the bcnd DP why should voters support the The BCC pitch to NDP voters (Dylan words things wrong moment) bcdp as opposed to the BC conservatives and what is your pitch to BC NDP voters who might be considering making the switch to a center-right party so wa just to be clear you asking me to to convince NDP voters to come to us yeah basically yeah yeah so I think the and that's what I say every time I meet people I think it's beyond specific issues right I will gladly discuss healthare you know or taxes and what not if that's what you care about but I think we really live in a situation where everything is broken right really and I know you know I don't want to sound like just coping P Fally but we we are really in a situation where if you ask people are you better off today than four five years ago most people will tell you not I mean they they pay more for their house they pay more in mortgage rates they they pay more taxes they have worth worse Health Care their kids get worse education so really there is almost nothing that is better now than five six years ago so if that's the case why would you be voting for this party that has been in power since 2017 right I mean they have been in power for a long time now the bcnp so they cannot blame the previous government for their problems right so really I think to me it's a question of like General Vibes for a lack of a better word where things are not working and you're not happy in your life you know you know things you would you wish things could get better so at this point you you now have an alternative a serious one with a good team good candidates good policies give us a chance really I mean you've given a chance to dndp and that's what you got so what is like again you mentioned Pierre po a little bit what is the relationship like between the BC conservatives and the Federal conserv like that's the thing that a lot of my American viewers in specific don't fully understand is the Divide between the federal parties and the provincial parties but like basically they're not the same thing and has Pierre said anything to suggest who he would support over the BC has Pierre said anything to Who would Pierre support in British Columbia? suggest who he would support in the BCU versus BC conservative Feud or whatever no I I believe that the the the few times where P PV has been asked he has been very clear that he's not getting involved right I mean he's obviously doesn't like the bcnd DP but you know he's not running and that's not his job to just endorse political parties so he my guess is going to remain neutal the entire time so and that's fair you know I mean I don't like when politicians you know you start having once somebody from Quebec Andor see somebody from British Columbia you know stay in your lane right I mean they do what you're supposed to do and focus on on your job so so the short answer is you know there is no official connections right we have two different parties it's not like the NDP where if you're bcnp you automatically become a member of the federal NDP and so you have this with the liberals or at least you used to have this in a few provinces as well so for us with two different parties you can be a member of One and not of the others um we we have candidates who federally have been you know B United loves to attack us about this right of our candidates used to be Federal NDP I believe like and they're like oh see they're not actually true conservative but that's not how it works you know different elections different levels different times and so you you you free we welcome everybody in our you know we're a big 10 party right and that's what we need to do when we have a first pass the post electoral system so with that being said just because there is no official connections doesn't mean that you know when I go to political events we obviously see each other right I see people I have friends who are members or volunteers of the federal conservative and we obviously get along pretty well because well we're conservative so we agree on on most issues out there so I think that would be really where we stand that would be amazing if you could get endorsed officially but as I said I don't think it's going to happen and objectively that most likely for the best I mean I think we we really want to avoid this type of the F that it's the same at every level okay my next question for you ran is what are like just Vibes how are you guys feeling going into the upcoming election how are you feeling in your constituency do you Will the BC Conservatives win this fall? guys think you can beat David Eevee this fall yeah we feel very good right and it's not political spin I mean we really well we can read the polls right but we can also see the reactions at the door the reactions when we organize events we even in Vancouver we've hosted events about education or or shortterm rentals for instance in the west side maybe like five minutes from David's office and we were getting hundreds of people to come so so reaction reactions have been very good plls have been very good fundraising has finally you know become really good as well right I mean we we used to lag there so no um you know I always joke that six months ago I remember somebody high in the party I had a meeting with him and he would be like oh we have 25 5% but I'm pretty sure you know my objective is to be at 40% by September and honestly you know back then when he said this I didn't fully I was like I don't know if it's going to happen you know I feel we already it's would be pretty amazing to be a 25 person as a new party but then sure enough we started being a 30 35 38 40 and so so no for sure we're going we're going for the win I mean we're not going for and when you look at the recent candidates we've added to uh in your writing we're not going to just be spoiler or to be even official opposition we we believe we can win this election and I think numbers everything show that we can it's not going to be easy the bcnd DP is a very well organized party the electoral system and the electoral map make it such that Metro Vancouver looks like a orange Fortress really and it's really a source of many many seats that's how they want right I mean let's forget 2020 right because it's a weird election with covid but 2017 the NDP won because they kind of swept most of Metro Vancouver right so technically wi they just made the alliance with the greens yeah yeah and after and after this but after the election right they they they didn't manage to win most of the suburb all of Sur all of the Tri Cities cam poam so those seats are they're they're pretty solid orange so they're not going to be easy to flip uh I think we will be able to flip a few of those but ultimately this is and this is where the election will be decided right I mean interior we know mostly what's going to happen frer Valley it's relatively predictable and then you get bernabi Vancouver where we know the NP will win like most of those seats it's not being you know let's be realistic that we're not winning Vancouver stona or Vancouver East uh but after this is really on the Ed right Richmond my writing the Tri Cities and so those battles six months ago we had no chance like really we couldn't win those states that there there was no possibility now we're at the point where it kind of depends on the poll it depends on your model right I have my own model with my own assumptions and I get different reactions or different projections than 338 Canada or other people who do it on on Twitter because it's it's such a difficult election to predict we essentially have to add a new party that didn't exist and so you have to make assumptions but now when you talk to people they're incredibly optimistic sometimes again six months ago I would say they were too optimistic but I've been proven wrong so they were right so now here's the question all the Twitter people are going to love you yourself how do you feel in your writing Does Bryan think he will win this fall?? like what percentage would you give yourself of being an MLA come fall yeah and that's that's the answer my that's the question my wife wants to know as well right uh I mean I would be honest right I mean I like being honest with people I think if the election was tomorrow I wouldn't be favorite in my writing and I think all projections including mine I'm I'm probably behind by between two and eight points it depends I think in my model I'm down five six points so I would give myself a like 30 35% chance you know it would take either a better campaign or a pulling error or something like this year to for me to win Michael Lee which was a strong incumbent leaving is a pretty good news for me I mean because obviously was the number two of BC United I actually think at some point he might have had better chances to keep his seats than Kevin Falcon the leader so yeah uh we're what with July end of July 35% chances so not favorite but real chances of actually being elected to the winning my seats this October so what we're going to do from now right I need two things I need a myself to go work even harder more door knocking iding voters and and and whatnot and and then I need the party to also slightly improve I would say if we could stop getting PS with us at 40% and winning the popular vote even by two or three points over the NDP then I think this is becoming really real like really where you're like okay I can win this thing which again a year ago chances were zero person you went into this is basically a paper candidate and now you're like you're legitimately looking at an office in Victoria which is and it's pretty crazy and and you know at some point I had to make the choice right I mean because exactly between the time I decided to run and the time we announced uh there were a few months and this it went from you cannot win to oh actually you could win and so I had to decide you know almost to confirm again but like okay do I want to run you know because it's a different commitment level right I mean so now that you know you need to be more serious you're going to have to work harder than maybe what I had anticipated a year ago and that's why I decid yeah no I'm going to do it I mean let's take it seriously it's even better right I mean I I was willing to run and with no chance of winning just to you know practice and get my voice out there and and you know argue on some issues but if I can do all of this and win this is even better so I'm I'm taking it you know very seriously you know now here's David Eby's riding (Bryan disses 338) one thing I'm very curious about just looking at 338 who do you guys have a candidate in Vancouver Point gray like that's that's David EB's riding right yeah do you do you guys have a candidate there yet we do we actually looking that Paul rashford has been there since even before me he he was an on last B so so that was one of the first candidates we we announced uh how's him like 40 36 though like David Eevee is at risk in his own riding so I don't and I don't want to start like a projection War but I believe that as it stands the model of 338 for BC is not the best model out there and I I genely believe you have Twitter people with like a thousand followers who have a better model than than him and I think the reason is is he hasn't spent enough time or maybe has updated but I think the way has modeled the BC conservatives is heavily dependent on the BC liberals and I think this is a mistake ultimately for instance in my model what I've done is I went back to 2019 and 2021 at the federal level and I took the results of the federal conservative fedal PPC and the BC liberals in the provincial map and I created like a conservative index and there's a lot of math and again assumption but so the way I model my party in BC is closer or more align with the federal conservatives and if you do this then in Vancouver you do have a few of those seats where the BC liberals used to do better than the BC conservative than the federal conservatives on the same seats and then if you go in the interior that's the opposite so I would be cautious about using the 338 forecast whether in my writing in por gr uh I think they're unfortunately too optimistic for us and you know I understand that I should say otherwise as a political spin but uh with that being said his model might be slightly too optimistic but my own model shows that yeah weirdly enough wdb is not 100% safe I thought it would be but no polls after polls projection after projections you know I don't publish them anymore but I still make them for my for for myself and I told Paul I was like you know this is pretty crazy but I do have you with you're not winning but you're not losing by 20 points I mean there is a chance in particular if davidb has to spend so much time out of his writing that you could actually be winning your seat so so we're gonna see that that would be a Monumental surprise right but that's a good thing for you guys if he has to spend more time in his riding because then he's not everywhere else yeah but is there anything else you want to talk about with the BC conservatives before I end this video no I mean you know the the one thing I would say and especially if you're not from BC but the and if you just follow B selections as like a hobby the one city that I think you should be watching is uh Sur Sur is a city in the Why we should watch Surrey this fall suburb of Vancouver it's the second biggest city is the fastest growing city they might actually be bigger than Vancouver within 10 years onest given population growth and it's a city that is very heavily uh Indians right or South Asian with six and and and Indian people and this is a city that used to be super dark orange or super dark red at the federal levels right as a matter of fact many federal projections have the federal liberals of Justin chudo win only one city in in BC and that would be in Syria and what we have seen over the last six months both in polls and the door or anecdotal evidence out there is there is a massive flip in this writing in in this city in this community and this fall if we win if my party wins I I predict that it's going to be because Sur will have gone from dark orange to dark blue which is not a real we usually see happening that fast like four years and going from one extreme to the other it's relatively risk so that that would be the one to follow that's really the one that will decide the election so would you say like so South Asians I even realize that are apparently now shifting towards the conservatives would you say that there are other de demographics especially of like immigrants too that could favor the BC conservatives apart from them so obviously yes South Asian yes they're definitely realigning and when I go in my writing you know I have about 10% of of South Asian in my writing or speaker Punjabi for instance at home and I would say most of the time when somebody tells me oh yeah we like vote for you like straight up they have been almost always South Asian so there was really it's amazing I'm canvassing a right an a part of my writing that's supposed to be heavy red heavy Federal liberals and they hate Trudeau they hate the NDP now uh so they they have really completely flipped other groups well obviously we have a large Chinese population in in BC most of them are not even immigrants anymore let's be clear my wife is Chinese but she's been here for like 30 5 years so that doesn't count as immigrant anymore they would be traditionally conservative it can of change in 2021 right the federal level so we're working hard on this community because I think they're line with us on on for instance drug addiction and the and on crime they're very much very conservative after this other uh immigrant populations my writing has I'm going to talk for my writings we have quite a lot of Filipino uh uh people in my writing and there as well you know everything I know about them I have some friends from this community they're naturally conservative so we should be convincing them to to vote for us but that's not that's not a realignment right it's it is more like the natural level for this for those communities the the South Asian is really the one that has been switching yeah you'd maybe think of one more question and that is uh where do you think the Trudeau F what do you think the effect of of the Trudeau factor is in this election because it How will Trudeau's unpopularity effect the election? seems like the Trudeau factor which is like just how I describe the whole Trudeau's unpopular so it like goes down to provincial politics who do you think does that hurt the NDP and will that hurt them a lot more like do you think you've been effectively able to make the criticism that the NDP is basically just an extension of the Liberals to the average BC voter so I think we've done a good job at this the party uh I don't know if it has been successful enough yet you know to be fair you know we're still in July with literally three months before the election most people when you go talk to them most people haven't thought about politics and they think about provincial politics even less than Federal politics so so we know what is very clear is yeah Trudeau is really really disliked I mean nobody wants to vote for him when you tell them oh no but I'm I'm running provin especially against avdb and the NDP then usually sometimes you see people like change they don't you know and I don't think there is the same hatred for that VDB or the same discount with this government unfortunately I always joke that it would be easier if we were to run against trudo than the bcn DP and and you know that's fair I mean the but I think the more we go at it and the more people look at this the more we realize you know we literally have a federal MP that just resigned right in langle to run for the provincial uh NDP so there there are a lot of connections right I mean between them so and and and David EB and Justin chudo they might sound different like they have different approach like I think EB is slightly more populist at times in in his rhetoric but in term of policies in term of what they believe they completely agree on everything uh and so we're going to see I mean obviously the more we can tie them together the better it is for us uh and I think WB knows it right that's why he doesn't hesitate nowadays to go against the federals right I mean he he has spoken openly against the immigration targets of the federal government uh and other issues so he's trying to distance himself after years of doing the same right he flip flop on uh the drug decriminalization but he was completely in on it right I mean so it's very convenient to do this like three months before the election will voters be tricked by this by this type of behavior I don't think so I think most people will realize that they essencially the same Center left to radical left and I always tell people right again I said earlier today in this interview that it's not specific issues to me it's really a general pattern of things being broken and I I tell people the same people who are part of the federal liberals and who decide policies at the federal level they're the same type of people who decide and who are part of the premier's office in Victoria and we need to make sure that these people are not in power anymore because they they're radicals ideologically and everything they do doesn't work it's really absolutely crazy they're really smart people they're not stupid they're Highly Educated smart people but they're completely wrong on so many issues and they're the same so the more we can and I I generally believe this I generally believe that the average advisor or political counselor uh in for DB is very comfortable with what chudo has been doing who do you think voters blame for the de decriminalization carbon tax all that stuff would you say they blame more David eie or they blame Justin Trudeau more okay so rightly or wrongly your guess I would say the decriminalization they're gonna blame EB more because that has been a BC problem and you know every time we have news about this it has been you know it's on need BC really Alberta has had some PR but all those death and the the east side of of the downt of the uh downtown in Vancouver this is a very busy Centric very Vancouver Centric so I think people will blame Victoria and davidb and not OT on the carbon tax IR rically I think they will blame Justin Trudeau even though we have our own carbon tax and you know we were the first one to have it right in 2008 but the in the political discourse the carbon tax has become completely associated with either Jas well I'd like to thank you again for joining me today on my YouTube channel if you want to check out what Brian has to say on Twitter I'll link his Twitter in the description of this video but Outro apart from that uh anything you want to say in closing no I mean you know obviously you have an audience Canada wide this is great and you know I have many followers out of BC but U I will just make a call you know if you're watching this and you like me and all my party and especially if you're in my writing or just in Vancouver I mean just you know send me a DM or send me an email you can easily find my email and on the web page of the BC conservative and you know get involved I can use more volunteers I can use more donations even small donations out there really really help and so anywh you if people want to get involved just get involved you just reach out I mean most of my volunteers I found them on Twitter I mean there people been interacting with on Twitter for years so sometimes it's it's Jing to go from this you know you observing politics and to actually participating but this is great then you make friends most of my best friends I mean in Quebec I met them in uh working for political party as well so don't hesitate at some point you know don't be shy reach out to people actually rning well I think that concludes this video I hope you guys enjoyed watching and I'll see you guys in next video