Fantasy Football Draft Strategy | Lisa Ann Fantasy Draft Show with RosterWatch | Late-Round Sleepers

Show Start this is and you're listening to roster watch this is AJ Brown and you're listening to roster watch this is Josh Allen and you're listening to roster watch what is up everybody ladies and gentlemen welcome to the Lisa and fantasy draft show brought to you by rosterwatch dcom I am Cody Carpenter and today I'm joined by the great Lisa an and of course the legend himself the trash man today we'll go through some of the latest uh last minute you know player movement player uh information that we've gotten from ADP movers over the last couple of days heading into a big big weekend of your fantasy drafts and we'll also run a couple of maybe two or three simulations mock drafts using the ultimate draft cheat sheet from rosterwatch dcom make sure you go to rosterwatch dcom Lisa to download that today Lisa trash man how you guys doing it's exciting I mean here we are we're looking at the fact that Thursday night we're going to be watching a real game and we're going to be diving into this Obsession of fantasy football to the next level I know it's like Christmas isn't it you're getting to open that first gift it there's a there's a lot of different things you know that that can alter I guess your drafts as you go into the weekend and so I think it's it's an exciting time like you said you're kind of opening up a new gift every single team you draft I think we're all in aevia leagues I know you guys have both talked about being in you know upward used said last week 20 or something like that like I've I've regressed quite a bit but it's still like every single time you're in a draft like I was in one late last night and it was just like you're getting to these later rounds and you're getting a new piece of a different pie and and by pie I'm obviously talking about different player shares and things of that nature so like you said Tre I like that opening up a different gift every single time let's talk about some player news though and Kyren Williams' Role Will Increase According to Sean McVay we touched on this one the other day on the rosterwatch podcast Fe you can find that over on YouTube on the podcast feed um Kiren Williams made some news this week because Shawn McVey decided to talk about his role increasing in the punt return game it sparked a lot of reaction from the fantasy football community on the old X app and his ADP currently is 15 his running back seven what what do you guys think I'll start with you Lisa what what do you think of this kyn Williams thought process from Sha McVey and do you think fantasy gamers are kind of overreacting to the whole Karen Williams usage pattern I guess you know I do I don't really trust Shan McBay in the Run game since Todd Gurley we saw cam Acres kind of come and go go back and leave again I I had kyen Williams in quite a few leagues because I got him in the last round as a flyer last year and it just worked out for me so I was lucky right I don't want to rely on that luck again this season and it's just not where I feel the strength of the offense is going to be so it doesn't change where I was seeing I think KY Williams just going too early for what I think he's worth right now in drafts so you think trash man that potentially this kyn you know they're they're talking about him losing some of this running back usage to Korum because he's in the pun return game is this going to properly price kirn by the time you know next Saturday comes around there's a lot of high stake straps that happen over the course of the next week so um his ADP is going to move as the week is week comes to an end and like I said running back seven right now do you think this potentially moves him down close that running back 10 area where we see you know the peos and aans of the world I mean let it move him down I'll get more of them I don't you know with this offense with this Rams offense really they just didn't have any depth behind Williams you know previously to picking up korm so I think this is really km's more I mean he's insurance for Williams I think Williams is still gonna be their guy I mean when I saw the joint practice with the Texans he was their guy you know on those 11 on1 drills um so I think it was just like just like last season I mean K Williams he gets he gets banged up a little bit like who do they really have to replace him with any consistency and now that's Korum but I still think Williams is a first line of not defense but offense rather So Lisa I talked about uh the ADP of kyen Williams right now 15th overall running back seven when you're drafting this weekend will you feel comfortable drafting him ahead of the likes of Isaiah Pacho aan Isaiah P's Where Does Kyren Williams Stack Up over Pacheco, Achane, Jacobs, White, & Cook ADP right now is 19 Devon Anan 25 James Cook is right there at 29 Josh Jacobs and Rashad white are interesting they're 28 and 34 where does he slide in in that grouping right there for you I think he slides in kind of right before right after Josh Jacobs in the order that you just gave um I I still think James Cook has some value uh but I'm definitely not going to take uh Williams over aan or even Pacho even with the most recent news in Kansas City doesn't fear me at all I mean I think there's some argument maybe taking him over aan just because I don't know I feel I still feel like Williams have has more touchdown Equity potentially over aan but yeah over peo no no for me yeah we we've made a little bit of an adjustment this past week and he's kind of right there with aan um Alex and Byron have been a little bullish on on Josh Jacobs and pushing him up there especially in PPR so um we kind of did make that move the other piece that came out the last couple of days of course CD lamb gets his big deal Brandon Aiyuk's Value & Outlook After His Massive Contract Extension with the Dallas Cowboys but the long awaited Brandon auk Saga he gets a four-year $120 million extension just a few dollars less than the Aman rosin Brown deal which was like 12.01 million I'm not exactly sure how he got that 01 million in there but is Brandon auka value now in the third round um being that he's officially back on the roster he's officially back on the team he's going off right now is wide receiver 17 and a half PPR wide receiver 18 in PPR it's kind of the same neighborhood as Cooper cup Michael Pitman DK metf like is this a fine area to be taking auk we we were nervous over the course of the last month obviously if he was gonna end up in Cleveland or Pittsburgh or New England one of these bad offenses but back in back in San Francisco over 2300 yards and 15 touchdowns the last two seasons with them Lisa what do you think of auk in his current kind of area of of being drafted I think this will raise him up I took him in a draft yesterday uh I didn't really think the move was going to happen because I knew there was not the money there that iuk was looking and the opportunities that he did have or with teams that he knew wouldn't have the level of success that he could potentially be facing in San Fran but I think it's common sense to look and be a little apprehensive of any players that haven't been able to build that chemistry with their team uh be there and be present in a actual action kind of movement instead of just being there in street clothes like Jamar Chase so I was iffy like I had the number one pick yesterday and I considered like is CD lamb a number one pick to me and I would say yes if they didn't go through this last couple of weeks of him not being able to build that back up with Dak but I end up going with the state intrud Christian mcaffrey I don't love the number one pick uh but I took hit Christian mcaffry and I felt good about it yeah I feel like lamb is different than auk in the sense that the Cowboys don't re really have anybody else you know to go to with the ball whereas in the 49ers I mean they have have so many other premier options in that offense auk doesn't have to be relied on like a lamb and so yeah I I feel like it's not quite the same situation I do feel like him missing Camp is gonna have potentially I would say major but a significant effect at least to start the season right we appreciate everybody that has hopped on in the chat again please click that like button please click subscribe as we continue to roll through these shows and of course go over to rosterwatch Lisa to get the ultimate draft cheat she we just crossed over the 1 million downloads marker historically at rosterwatch it's like having all of rosterwatch nation Trashman myself Lisa Byron Alex all on your shoulder while you are drafting I'm going to share my screen right now and we're going to pull up a PPR draft simulation using the fantasy pros Mock Draft simulator and we'll be going through the adps of the the ESPN 1QB PPR Mock Draft Simulation CBS NFL .c rtsports and sleeper this is Alex's baby right here the PPR version of the ultimate draft cheat sheet we're going to be drafting from the three hole and we're going to be drafting first off according to the ultimate draft cheat sheet again the three simple rules at the top of the sheet of paper you just follow along Mark the players at the chart as they are drafted select the highest remaining player and if there's a tie choose the player that you like so we will walk through this draft and we'll Converse over a couple of them if we get the choice to but here at the 103 we're going to be drafting Tyreek Hill because the cheat sheet does not give us an option as we move on down to the 210 we just missed out on Derrick Henry Isaiah Peko who we just talked about and at the 210 the Chichi is going to tell us to take a running back here with Travis etn over Josh Jacobs and Chris olave in round three we get a choice here so we start out with Travis CN at the 210 Tyreek Hill at the 103 we're going to get a choice here Lisa you have Rachaad White Or Cooper Kupp? Rashad white in Tampa Bay who I down there and I saw that training camp last two weeks ago and he looks like a full-blown Le'Veon Bell he's about 224 225 pounds much bigger than he was coming out of college and he looks like the alpha in this backfield or you got Cooper cup whose ADP has been sort of skyrocketing over the course of the last two or three weeks Byron was out there at Rams training camp and said that you know cup was obviously the alpha in comparison to puka nou who's been getting drafted a couple rounds ahead of him here we're at the 303 where do you guys feel about this one well n too you know I think that factors in to the Ascension but um go ahead Lisa no I was gonna say you were just out there I mean I you Cody I heard you talk so much about Rashad white and I've also been listening to other beat reporters say the same U but at the same time Cooper Cup's gonna have all it's one of these like where do we want to go with this next pick I would lead towards Cooper cup knowing that puka has been injured but yet Rashad white could have a breakout season we'd really regret not putting him on our team yeah I I I you can't go wrong with picking cup though I think you know it's it's it's it's it's found money but unless he gets hurt all right that's with anyone yeah it's true all right let's let's take cup then see what it gives us here in round four the ultimate draft ch's gonna tell us to take DK metf because you're getting a few picks of value there in round four so it starts out with Tyreek H at to 103 we got Travis etan at the 210 we got Cooper cup at the 303 and DK metf at the 410 and now in round five it's telling us to take Rashi rice who we getting another value on as he has risen up ADP boards so we're going to start out with one running back and four wide receivers the CH knows what it's doing here in round here in round six it's gonna give us our second running back and that is javante Williams javante Williams Ascension speaking of ascensions of these players Is Javonte Williams' ADP Justified for the Sixth Round? in ADP javante Williams has been one over the course of the last you know month probably since training camp began I remember sitting in July and and June and hearing the beat reports coming out of Denver about this guy you know his name you know basically being on a gravestone already in Denver Peron ends up getting cut they have um Jalil mcclaflin who's gonna be you know probably in a a satellite role audri EST the rookie behind javante do you think this just Justified this ADP has risen a little bit do you guys think this has Justified Dev javante you know pushed up into the six seventh round uh I'm looking at Tony Pard right there and and just have this feeling this season it's going to be a Tony po kind of season but that would go against what we want to do building this team properly with the ultimate draft cheat sheet so Williams is the play yeah I agree I think it's you know that the Scuttle BL coming coming out of Denver I think maybe they they were bored earlier this summer not much has changed um in reality I think Javon Williams is their guy guy until you know until proven otherwise all right do not bastardize the cheat she that is one of the main rules using the ultimate draft cheat sheet over at rosterwatch dcom you can see the QR code right there in the dead center you go over to rosterwatch dcom for Lisa the link is also pinned in the YouTube chat so we'll take Javon Williams here at the 610 and Tony par does not fall to us but the rookie out Jonathan Brooks With His Injury or Xavier Worthy? of Texas Jonathan Brooks who is going to be on the pup to start the season four weeks he is not in our stury lineup if we drafted him right here but we also get another Texas graduate that is Xavier Worthy on the Kansas City Chiefs we have Rashi rice do you want to go for the healthy player in Xavier worthy with dynamism or stash away Jonathan Brooks on the bench this is a big one because the way this roster is built right now two running backs four receivers we're kind of at a I don't know what kind of a Crossroads I guess you'd say here a little bit Lisa what are you thinking it is a Crossroads because it is going to really affect the build and can we afford are we sure that this is a four-week hold uh on Jonathan Brooks are you we sure that he'll be available and because if so four weeks really isn't that big of a deal and we will lose the running back potentially by then yeah I I mean I lean Brooks here and to to touch on PD for a second no we didn't get PD but we can probably get Spears who is arguably the one B there so I'm not too worried about that so does that sound like we're we're in line on Brooks here yep yeah all right let's let's do it let's take Brooks and that's going to push us down to the 810 looks like they just had a defense go off the board with the ners do not be that person do not be that person in your draft this weekend drafting a defense in the eighth round I don't care who it is uh 810 here we do we get a choice it is actually Roma Den from Chicago who I'll let Trashman talk about here in a second or Kyle pittz could be our starting tight end here in round eight trash man Rome Odunze or Kyle Pitts? are we taking romad duni your boy from Chicago or we going I me I want to the upside is palpable just watching in that Chicago Bears offense he was the most active receiver in those practices that I saw and maybe it's because you know those other guys were going up against um Jaylen Johnson more than Odun was but you know he made some incredible catches some incredible catches and runs um and he's just a guy that you like to root for that being said I feel like Pits might be the the safer move um in in the in the long run I really thought you were gonna go towards adun Lisa what do you think I I thought he was going to go towards a dunesday as well so I'm gonna pass on this one all right let's thought that's where we were going so did I let's let's go Kyle Pitts here at the 810 get that tight end in this offense that he should be the number two option and get Jameson Williams yes sign me up see it all works out it does and that's why I trust the process and you have to trust the process because that's why it works out the ultimate draft Chi-Chi it knows this will be our fifth wide receiver come on down Jam Williams at the 903 that's going to send us to the 1010 where we will get a rookie another Dynamic wide receiver and Brian Thomas a guy that I saw down there at the Jacksonville Jaguars training camp just a few weeks ago I I saw eerily you know similar ties to Christian Watson from a few years ago and if this off if this offense can get clicking in in Duvall County I think Brian Thomas is due for a pretty big you know either start or end to the season so we'll take him here the ultimate draft cheat sheet says and then we come into the 1103 we do not have a quarterback yet we currently have Travis etn Javonte Williams Jonathan Brook three running backs we have Tyreek Hill Cooper cup DK metf rashy rice jamus Williams and Brian Thomas the wide receiver position and we have Kyle pittz at tight end in around 11 it's gonna tell us to take Jordan love love that we're gonna come back a round to the 1210 we're gonna get a choice between Jaden Daniels and Brennan Cooks you want to get that second quarterback or go wide receiver with Jayden Daniels or Brandin Cooks In the 12th Round? Brennan Cooks trash man on the upside did Jen Jaden Daniels is just incredible but the consistency with Brandon Cooks is there but Brandon Cooks is one of those players that's very hard to feel comfortable putting him in your lineup for consistency reasons he's only really a bi-week play unless we see CD lamb get injured yeah I like the upside of Jaden Daniels um he could be the second coming of Anthony Richardson who could be the second coming of Anthony Richardson all right Sam you ain't got to convince me I love un love Jaden Daniels let's take Jaden Daniels here and we'll go to the 1303 and it's going tell take Brandon Cooks anyway let's take Brandon Cooks and we'll come back around to the 1410 and get Dylan Lobby or kurk cousins I think we're gonna go ahead and take Dylan lobby as we already have our quarterback and that's gonna finish up the roster here with Jordan love at the The Rosterwatch Crew Gives Their Final Conclusions for Their Team quarterback Travis etn javante Williams Jonathan Brooks and Dylan lobby at the running back position there was a tweet that recently went out regarding Dylan Lobby for those say what Lobby in the 14th round there was conversations about him potentially continuing to work into that zamir white role not only in a PPR spot but potentially as the rb1 in the Raiders offense Tyreek Hill Cooper cup DK metf Rashi rice Jameson Williams Brian Thomas and Brandon Cooks and then of course Kyle pittz at the tight end position I'm gonna simulate the rest of the draft Auto draft a defense and a kicker and see what they give us for a grade but I really don't care because this roster is pretty sick talk top to bottom they're going to go ahead and give us a B+ an 88 we'll take it but they don't like all the young players in that way they never do they don't respect them they don't respect the young players on um the ultimate draft cheat sheet you can go over to rosterwatch dcom Lisa to get that ultimate draft cheat sheet today one Are We Worried About Ja'Marr Chase Not Practicing? player that we did not draft in that one that is kind of going off in the same area and that draft he actually went off at the very next pick 104 is Jamar Chase he's not been practicing in a situation is a little bit different than UK or Lambs who we talked about a minute ago he's actually got two years left on his contract in Cincinnati the big note that I made was you got to remember this guy I don't want to say he's a wild card but he did completely skip his Junior season of college after going for 1700 yards and still ended up being a top 10 pick at what point or are you already worried about Jamar Chase as he enters a season because we've had this conversation the last couple of days as we're playing with ultimate draft cheat sheet you're literally spending a you know three four five sixth overall pick on a Jamar chase at what point or are you already nervous trash man you know I'm a little bit biased because I took Chase with my first pick and my dra draft last weekend I'm not worried I mean the only time I'm worried about Jamar Chase is when he's is when he's injured um and so like yeah going to this it it it doesn't bother me that much I mean any any of these players could potentially get injured um at any point and Jamar Chase he's a focal point of that Cincinnati offense I'm I'm not I'm not too worried about this Lisa have you drafted in Jamar Chase yet not yet but I will you know I'm not as worried about this because Jamar Chase and Joe burrow are best friends like they're always together so it makes me feel that they've still been working together that this is just a business thing I don't love it but it bothers me less than CD and Dak who I really felt needed some solid time together um Tyler Boyd conversation is getting really loud right now uh which I don't think it should be yet but Jamar Chase relies on two things him staying healthy and Joe burrow staying healthy I'm not as worried about this one but I don't love it it's it's not ideal before the season starts and also what the most annoying is when you're listening to you know pressors after practice you want to hear about players like I want a player to tell me about a rookie that he can't believe you know his moves or you know the routes that he's running like this is the stuff I want to hear I don't want to hear conversations about your contract and money the time it really kind of waters down the information that we could be getting that has a little bit of an inside scoop to it I I I kind of like to hear it to be honest just because it just gives me more access to those players in drafts people people get scared off of them you know I'm more willing to take the chance but then again that's why I'm the trash man I guess trash man loves him some value no matter where he can get it uh Chase is the interesting one I I was just listening to Michael Lombardi earlier today actually and he kind of he was a former GM of course of the Patriots and he mentioned that it's not only the fact that Jamar Chase is is has two years left on that contract it's that he actually has four years of control that the Bengals have right now and they're just he's just asking them to rip that up because again two years left on a contract plus two years of a potential franchise tag not saying that's gonna Which Players Are The Rosterwatch Crew Bullish on For 2024? happen but I just thought that was an interesting way of looking at it um are there are there any players that you guys have drafted the last few weeks that you feel like exceptionally bullish about heading into 2024 Trashman you want to go first you want me to go first you can ladies first uh you know I I love Keon Coleman in Buffalo now I'm prepared this might not work out for me till week four or week five but I am planning to stay put on this one okay I think this is going to be Josh Allen's new favorite Target it's gonna take a minute I'm gonna be one of those people that probably Waits that extra week till I feel confident putting in my lineup but I feel like Keon's probably going to be on 50% of my teams for me for me it's it's probably been Tyler Lockett um so cheap he's so cheap what he does I could believe I couldn't believe I got him what maybe in like the I would say was the 11th round or something like that it's just nasty you have to take it whether you it's disgusting it's so unfair to him what is everybody thinking he's I and I feel like he's the kind of guy who plays with a chip on his shoulder too you know smaller guy like that I mean that he likes to have something to fight and so I I I think we're we're going to get a lot out of locket this season I I think that Seattle offense is going to be better than than people imagine right now and I will say this no one out there has better tow drag swag then Tyler Lockett I mean what he can do almost like a ballerina's body you see the catch happen you're like no there's no way he's in you watch it from five angles you're like he's in and he stayed in like that body control is very very exceptional and just watching him return kicks from college I mean that'll get you excited about him yeah he went at the 135 last night in this um superflex seasonal baseball league that I was in and I was trying to get him at the 1310 but I just kept pushing it down because it's like nobody respects Tyler Lockett and again he's at a thousand yards uh for the last five years this past year he dipped below the thousand yard marker for the first time since 2018 894 yards I guess it's not quite good enough to get any of that respect there's always a couple guys I always feel like Brandon Cooks was also in the kind of in that same area where he just get pushed down Keon Coleman have you been a have you been a Keon Coleman fan since he was coming out of college or is it is it just a connection to to to Josh because since he's come out of college but I could be wrong on this one you know we've done this before you pick a player you're like yes you're gonna be something John Ross So Quint Johnson last season oh how many shares of Quinton Johnson did I have thinking you know what I'll be able to trade him you know somebody will want him nobody wants that Keon Coleman is is a I mean that's usually one thing I guess that they they'd say like when you look back as a when you're looking at these players from a prospect standpoint and what makes them maybe not succeed at the NFL level is separation and people on Twitter will take these you know training camp videos of him not separating from guys and take it as that right like this is why he's not going to succeed but the thing about Keon Coleman is his game is so much different than that I I got to go up to to Pittsburgh two weeks ago for the Rost watch training camp tour and that's because of all of you the listeners that allow us to do these things Keon Coleman was the one player that didn't have a good connection or an established connection with Josh Allen and I could see how on the surface you go into that and you watch this and you're like well he's he's hitting Dalton King Kate on seam routes he's hitting KH Shakir behind linebackers in the end zone he's he's hitting well he's not really hitting M Hollin really ever to be honest with you Quinton Morris the third string end getting targeted and the Keon Coleman stuff it's it's not bad it's just like off by this much it's off by this much and the thing about Keon Coleman is his freaky catch rate it's his freaky athleticism I I I'm a very big Keon Coleman fan I'm nervous about it but like I like I think you just you you put a a great uh you know marker on that being like it may be four five six weeks and I think you're 100% right uh with that one Lisa and remember there was a season was it one or two seasons ago where at camp and at practice Jamar Chas couldn't catch and everybody was like ohar Chase can catch I also do believe that you know that people are there with cameras you know everybody's watching there is a little bit of Illusion taking place as well and Dalton conade is going to be the number one covered Target that I think his defenses are going to be looking out for no Stefan Diggs okay where do we go now we're definitely going to look at Dalton concade and I think by the season but there's many players that I've drafted through the years I've been playing season long fantasy which started in 2013 where I have players I'm like I'm just not looking to you till week four week five and I'm not even going to look at you in my lineup you're talk to my bench um because you're not going to get them off the waiver wire by the time they become something and if you're using your bench for just by weeks you're never gonna have those players by the time you need them because you're gonna swap them out for injuries or you're gonna put them into some a spot where somebody's actually getting production that you needed there's also this guy named uh oabc Johnson that started over Justin Jefferson if I do recall right during his rookie season I know we're not comparing Coleman to these two guys but but we just got to be patient and if you love a guy you got to continue to hold on I'm going to run another simulation 1QB Half PPR Mock Draft Simulation using the half-point PPR ultimate draft cheat sheet from rosterwatch decom you can go over there right now and you can get it there's three simple rules and an expert draft is guaranteed Mark the players at the chart as they are drafted select the highest remaining player and if there's a tie choose the player that you like and this one will be drafting from the turn the 12 spot 1.2 honestly maybe one of my favorite spots to draft from in all of fantasy we're going to be drafting from the 12 like I said half Point PPR one quarterback two running back two receiver one tight end two Flex six bench spots we're going to be drafting against the average draft position from the ESPN CBS nfl.com RT Sports and sleeper again using the ultimate draft cheat sheet from rosterwatch dcom rosterwatch docomo at the 12 we just saw Jonathan Taylor saquon Barkley and AJ Brown go off the board there's no choice with the first pick we're going to get Travis etn here from the Jacksonville Jaguars but with that second pick again this is half PPR this is not full PPR you can go Derrik Henry the big dog the king and Baltimore there's really nothing behind him I guess Justice Hill is there and you have the Lamar Jackson Allure of rushing but you also have Garrett Wilson here from New York City the New York Garrett Wilson or Derrick Henry? Jets we have a choice Garrett Wilson Derrick Henry go for balance or we can start running back heavy in this half PPR build Lisa where you leaning I love I love Garrett wlson this year but I also really like Derrik Henry this year I think he's going just the No No one behind him kind of thing but I'm going to go Garrett Wilson with this one trash man I mean iing Derrick Henry here um just just because of what you stated there's nobody really behind him he's gonna get so much action in that really good offense uh Garrett Wilson we have the Aaron Rogers connection or what we think will be the Aaron Rogers connection I think there's just a few more questions there for me um I like dere Henry but you know we can we can see to to Leisa on this one no we go Derrick Henry because I think we have a lot more riches in wide receivers later in the draft than running backs running opportun yeah yeah we'll go running back we're gonna go Derrick Henry I have a feeling we can maybe get a Jameson Williams or something to make up for it a little bit later all right let's go Derk Henry here at the 2011 it's gonna kick us down to the 312 and look at that the ultimate draft Chi from rosterwatch decom it knows Cooper cup Falls to us here no choice and the next one is Jaylen waddle I do tell I do love me some Malik neighbors but I guess I'll take Jaylen Wadd here in Miami at the 401 so we're going to start out Travis etn Derk Henry Cooper cup Jaylen waddle it's that easy we're gonna continue to build this thing out into round five at the 512 we do have a choice between Javonte Williams or Zay Flowers in the fifth round? javante Williams who we just talked about in the PPR draft and Z flowers we do have Derrick Henry on this offense would you like would you guys like to go running back here for that Flex position in half PPR trash man I mean I lean Williams over Flower just because as much as I like that Ravens offense I don't love the pass catchers in the Ravens offense that much um I mean just because there's a consistency there I mean at least with the wide receivers um so yeah so ien Williams for this one here here's the problem is I just I just actually asked you guys a question that doesn't really matter because we have to take both guys anyway yeah we do but I will say I am just so much happier with Z flowers in baseball uh and in DFS than I am on my season long leagues he's just a frustrating player to manage yeah that that's I think that's a tough you can you could put in any Ravens receiver and that you know fill in the blank and it you know it would be the same ex exactly exactly like best ball or DFS and you know the problem is you know you're G to get a Nelson agular a week or two this year sh baitman might peek his head out of the curtain we have no idea if that's going to happen or not Isaiah likely might catch like it's going to be reminding me how much I don't want any shares of receivers in that entire situation they're gonna win a game 35 to 10 and they're gonna have you know Patrick Dem Marco gonna have a rushing touchdown it's gonna be putrid all right round seven here we have uh three running backs and three receivers as we go to the 712 Nick chub goes 711 fat Keenan Allen goes 710 we have Jerome Ford with no other options here at the 712s we'll get that running back that's the running back one in Cleveland right now and then we'll have an option here do we go Gus Edwards with the Chargers who we think is the running back one Gus Edwards or Calvin Ridley in the eighth round? maybe it's JK dubs we think it's Gus Edwards though or kelvin Ridley the current wide receiver one in Tennessee while all else is banged up Lisa ah I want to go Calin Ridley I can't trust uh Gus Edwards we don't have enough information for the Chargers um I just you know the Calvin Ridley thing remember that year that Calvin Ridley year can we have just one more of those just one more crazy breakout years uh but yeah I'll go Calvin Ridley here Trashman you cool with Ridley I mean I like Edwards here um I like that the fact that they're gonna I mean the fact but the the the proposed plan from the charges to run the hell out of the ball all season I feel like God Edward's going to get a lot of touches and that offense and I actually like him more than Ford there I mean just because we know chub will be back at some point in that offense in Cleveland um e Edwards um how Rel it's good to have a number one receiver in an offense um and I guess we're lighter on receivers here ionna Ridley's fine I was gonna say I'll be the tiebreaker here and take Ridley as Alex always says when you're ever in a tough one always lean balance and balance would tell us to take Kevin Ridley remember Kelvin Ridley started a year ago with an 11 Target eight for 100 yards and a touchdown in the opener and very quietly went for a th yards in that Jacksonville offense in 2023 so we'll take Kelvin Ridley to balance out this roster so through eight rounds we have Travis etn Derrick Henry Javonte Williams Jerome Ford all four starting running backs Cooper cup Jaylen Wadd Z flowers and Kelvin Ridley at the wide receiver position at the 912 it's almost like we knew this was coming we talked about it a couple rounds ago Jameson Williams feel like we get him a lot using the ultimate draft Chi-Chi because he's pretty should I I think trash man likes him too oh I love him so much outside there at the 101 we get no choice we get Rico dowle in Dallas I know Lisa is a Cody Asks Lisa Her Thoughts On The Dallas Backfield fan of the Dallas Cowboys so I want to ask you this question Lisa that backfield is I mean trash it's ABS trash it was Dusty and we heard I thought this was rather interesting Mike McCarthy had some very positive things to say about Royce Freeman um during dur I can't even hardly say it during the preseason he was saying how Royce Freeman was going to be impactful on special teams for us this year and then they proceeded to cut Royce Freeman and bring in a running back in Delvin cook that we haven't seen do anything in a couple of years so you got Delvin you got Zeke and you got Rico Byron says that Rico's got the most juice in his legs in this back field do you you know what are your thoughts on this Dallas backfield in a as a whole oh yeah Rico has to have more juice in his legs like 10 years younger okay let's just go there first but it's so murky in Dallas and bringing in Dalvin cook made me feel a lot worse about Zeke uh and really a lot less confident on on ricel Dao as well but staying away from that back field but I guess if you had to choose one now look it could be an incredible breakout last big season for Delvin cook because the Cowboys have you know that great offense for that run potential but it's just bringing back Zeke did not excite me at all at all nothing excites me about that move it's kind of like Odell Beckham loved you as a baller when you were a baller now you're still circling around and what are you gonna do but just take up a space on a fantasy team there it is one single sheet of paper with everything that we know and of course Byron Lambert went out to Dallas Cowboys Camp so we know we're pretty bullish on Rico Dole in this Dallas Cowboys backfield and this cheat sheet knows it's magical it's mythical it's maniacal and it's balanced that's what it is right now as we head into the 1112 Jal mlin goes off the board at the 11-11 and we're going to get Jaden Daniels here with no options at the 1112 that is our quarterback number one and at the 1201 we could double tap quarterback here or we can grab a running back in brillan Allen who is sitting currently behind the one and only Bree Hall in New York you guys want to go double quarterback with these rookies who both have great schedules on the strength of schedule tool at rosterwatch decom both should be Who Will The Crew Take in the 12th Round? duking it up for the Rookie of the Year Ward at the end of the season both don't have the same buy I believe Caleb is by by week seven Jaden na is by week 14 or do we just take the running back the rookie running back the youngest player in the NFL is khil Herbert not an option there he's not he's actually on the next row down below brayan Allen all right all right is that a bull take I mean we are we're going through we're testing it we're doing a mock is this a bull take from trash man should I be moving being at Bears camp khil herba got a lot of run with the ones so he's got some Standalone Valu is what you're telling me I I I believe so like everyone's on Swift and Swift is good but khil Herbert is still there and he's a really efficient running back um I like his value late in the draft um but if he's not an option I I I tend to lean Caleb Williams there because I mean even if you don't end up necessarily needing him I mean he's a he could be a marquee trade piece yeah um come later in the season agreed all right I'm going to make a note trash man this is why we do these mocks right now it's because we can adjust on the Fly we can move things around after this draft is done I'm going to move khil Herbert ahead of brilon Allen and put an astris on it and call it the trash man move all right Caleb Williams here at the 1201 it's gonna get us that second quarterback we got two spots left we need a tight end and we need a bench spot again we're balanced across the board pretty much we got Travis etn Derrick Henry Javonte Williams jome Ford Rico dowle Cooper cup Jaylen waddle Z flowers Kelvin Jameson Williams this roster is just too sick we got to finish it out right here we got a three-way Choice Tank bsby Jacksonville who is actually a handcuff to our Travis etn ad I Mitchell in the Indianapolis Colts wide receiver room or pat fouth on the Pittsburgh Steelers I personally lean Fri mouth what say you guys yeah I took Fri Ruth in my draft yesterday I would take fire mouth there yes no absolutely he could end up leading that team in receptions all right with the last pick we have to now narrowed down to Bigsby and ADN I Mitchell as that final selection you want to Adonai Mitchell or Tank Bigsby For the Final Pick? handcuff Travis etn or take the upside in the rookie and ADI Mitchell oh you know I'm taking Mitchell there whereas I would be more conservative and and handcuff etn but uh I get it Mitchell go for it you know I was just at Colts Camp watching joint practices between them and the Cardinals and Mitchell I mean Michael Pitman was talking about Mitchell and the to the Press after practice he was he had the best um best release he'd ever seen he like he studied his release um and if you I mean just seeing some of the plays some the connection with Richardson that Mitchell had um he's definitely well and I guess you know hook him um there's always that bias there for me too so I'm leaning Adonai there is is there any worry from either of you about this Indianapolis Colts we'll draft ad night here but is there any worry into ality of this Indianapolis passing game because we obviously know Michael Pitman just got paid a a a handsome amount this offseason we know what this offensive line is we know what Jonathan Taylor is Anthony Richardson is gonna run that football but then you also hear about these these positive things from Josh DS is is Anthony Richardson's favorite Target Alec Pierce is Reggie Wayne's favorite receiver ad I Mitchell is making acrobatic catches in practice like I I'll just go out and say like Anthony Richardson can't feed all these guys Point Blank period he can't none of like ad and Mitchell going off here in the 14th 15th round Downs I think is like the in the 13th round or 12th round Pierce doesn't get drafted are you nervous about this offense or do you think either of you think that Anthony Richards can take that next step forward and actually you know you know get 80 plus targets out to a couple of these guys uh for me I'm hoping that he used you know he learned a bit about how to use his body better like Tua did in his offseason last year Anthony Richardson just has to stay uh upright has to stay healthy I mean he was dicing last season but it was a scary way to end the season uh I'd like to see him spread it out as much as possible but I know he's going to try and Rush as much as he can as well so that's going to take away a lot of production it's going to be hard to have value where a player is going to help you win your matchup I think it's only really a matter of time before Mitchell is playing ahead of Pearson those two wide sets there in Indianapolis I mean I think we've seen what we have in Pierce we saw it last season we saw it at the Senior Bowl I mean we didn't love him then um I just think Mitchell has a lot more upside he's the player that I think will work his way in the two wide sets there for the Colts um I think that Richardson based on the practice that I saw he's been very efficient he's been he and um Pitman and think I said it the other day they didn't miss on a go route that entire practice um I think as long as he stays healthy I think they'll be fine all right I'd love to hear it here is our final roster I'm going to The Crew Gives Their Final Thoughts On Their Team simulate the last two rounds to get a defense and a kicker and this thing better give us an eight oh my Lord that is a disrespectful grade we got Jaden Daniels Travis etn Derrick Henry Cooper cup Jaylen waddle Pat firemouth Z flowers javante Williams Jerome Ford the starting running back in Cleveland Kelvin Ridley Jameson Williams Rico dle Caleb Williams to get the two Rookie of the Year you know competitors with hands down Jaden Daniels and Caleb Williams and then Adonai Mitchell disrespect from the fantasy pros simulator giving us a great of a b that is not a b that is an A+ draft over there from rosterwatch dcom Lisa you seen the ultimate draft cheat sheet that was the standard and the half version we also have the superflex half PPR we also have the PPR version like I said before there's over a million downloads We just crossed that path last week at rosterwatch dcom on the ultimate draft cheat sheet it's mythical it's magical it's maniacal and it's guaranteeing you a professional level draft every time you use it all right Who Is One Deep Player That You Must Pick Up For Your Team? let's wrap this thing up I got a couple questions left for you guys and and I want to get people ready for the weekend right it's Friday it's the last Friday before football's officially here a week from now there actually going to be the second NFL game the first NFL game is next Thursday night there's a second one on Friday night who is a player or two that you're targeting in the last few rounds of your fantasy drafts that you just have to have on your roster in week one week two just to see what happens uh trash man I know you love this roster fodder these guys that you can just sit there and you can watch him in week one you might cut him you might add another guy you you just got to see what it looks like in week one for me it's my favorite time because you get to throw that dart on you know Devon v a guy in Denver that pretty much nobody knows and you're like why is that guy in your roster because what happens if he has eight Targets in week one you don't have to go out and spend that Fab and you might have just fell into a diamond so at least I'll start with you is there we'll start with one play is there a player that you're kind of you know focusing in on those 14th 15th 16th rounds of your drafts you know over the last couple of weeks or going into this weekend yeah yeah it really was going easier earlier when I was doing beste balls and nobody was talking about lad mcon and and the Los Angeles Chargers but I I would like lad on as many teams as possible and it's not happening because I'm not getting a value I can't I can't go lad eight rounds okay has to be late late late and I'm seeing him going like okay I I didn't mean to talk about it on Instagram ruin it for myself but really getting pushed at the draft board unnecessarily but I'd like to see him look there's nothing left there no Mike Williams no Keenan Allen uh Justin Herbert is going to have to get used to all of these new weapons and I think you can get it done I I don't know if I don't I don't know if Byron's gonna be a very big fan of you ignoring his precious his precious Josh Palmer out there in Los Angeles who uh you know had 581 yards and two touchdowns last year not exactly the A1 steak sauce of wide receiver output in Los Angeles they they did bring in lad makoni trash man who you like in here late I'm gonna go real deep and saying Jaylen Tolbert the Cowboys and um I like Andre yasas uh for them bals too just for some late late deep deep sleepers who could potentially catch a lot of balls this season that's an interesting one Yash I did see there was some negativity around Jermaine Burton during that third Jermaine Burton's the rookie wide receiver Andre Yash is the second year wide receiver with the Bengals right now there's negativity around Burton I think it was the third or second preseason game people said that he had fallen asleep during meetings and they asked him about it this week when he had a media availability and he was like I have no clue what you're talking about I I because he was asleep they they said he yeah was asleep and fell asleep and he and then he came out I think yesterday or today I think it was yesterday and was like I don't know what you're talking about I like the coaches basically said that didn't happen um and Burton had a couple of nice catches um the last two preseason games so I think we talked about Chase earlier y Yos and Germaine Burton are two very interesting receivers that yoos of course was a Princeton kid he's at the senior bulll last year and Germaine Burton kind of the opposite he was like a festar that went to Alabama and Georgia and both guys are kind of just sitting there and if if Jamar Chase does not show up and does not play for a week two weeks three weeks it's kind of a free Square as far as your you know 14th 15th 16th round of drafts what do you guys think of Jaylen Wright just a just a just a point blank What Does The Crew Think of Jaylen Wright? drop it out there Jaylen Wright in this Miami offense Devon Anan there in the backfield we've seen Raheem moard at 31 years old get an abundance of of usage he's currently going off the board at 163 overall running back 50 running back 50 this is after Tyler alir who's clearly behind bejan Robinson Antonio Gibson's going off in this early Jal Jal Laughlin who's a pure satellite back is Jaylen Wright a guy on either of your Radars going into the season as far as someone you want to have stashed or want to have ready on your roster because of the explosive ability in Miami I mean for me it's not just because of the explosive ability it's because we've seen hn go down and I feel like Wright is basically interchangeable with h hen as far as their skill set goes I think hen's a better back ultimately but if hn gets hurt again it's going to be the Jaylen Wright show and so I think for that reason more so than you know his athletic ability um necessarily yeah I would say the same I'm so sorry I just like I would say the same with you on that one uh again another running back in an offense that's going to have a lot of scoring going on and that Rush ability hn going down he's right there there's other backfields like the Cowboys I just don't feel as strong about there it is play I will say this as for a player taking a naps in meetings you have two options here first of all naps are great but second of all you could own the nap thing and just be like George on Seinfeld and just say to reporters is that wrong I'm rest my body yeah resting my body recharging it's part of Wellness we all need rest it's me time I love naps I love it I love it there's nothing wrong with a good nap I know my dog is literally taking one underneath my feet right now which he does I wish my dogs were taking naps just staring at you like tromping around take me outside Trashman all right um yeah you can go over to rosterwatch decoma get the ultimate draft cheat sheet today again over a million downloads three simple rules you cannot afford to draft without it this weekend rosterwatch dcom Lea to get the ultimate draft cheat sheet from rosterwatch Any Other Deep Values To Consider? these good people over the air to use R to watch ultimate draft Chi but we always got to get them the good information on the players that we're targeting that we like the most can I interest you guys in a in a in a Carson steel from Kansas City not really but you can interest me in a diami brown in Washington hey all right I want to hear this oh I mean it's just like he's never had a clear path to Fantasy relevance you know behind Terry McLaren I really think he's the best of the bunch behind him alamin zakus he's more of a I would more like a big play every now and then time re receiver somebody you'd seen on the New Orleans Saints or something I don't see see much consistency coming for him um and like you were tell me Noah Brown got added um yesterday but again I feel like dami is still the better receiver there as far as you know as far as being a chain mover in that offense I liked ammy catching quite a bit quite a few balls this season not not to be not to be negative towards Noah brown or anything but I did see a clip of him running a route today and it wasn't exactly the Noah Brown I expected it was a little bit stiffer you know how these receivers get when they get a little too old and it's you know the um the um Julio of the last couple of years and you could just see those the ankles tighten up a little bit you're like that's not the same Julio Jones so I I regret I I regret my ask of you trash man your opinion on on no Brown because I'm no longer worried about him in Washington Lisa is there Lisa's Other Deep Player To Watch For 2024 anybody else that you're drafting in the late rounds everybody is so high on Terry mcra and I get it we're looking at Arizona we're looking at Kyler muray G have this breakout great year again what about Greg dorch can he stick yet is this gonna happen ever could he I mean we got to have a little bit more offense there and he's always been great in a DFS stack where you're like okay I'm on on a budget oh I'm gonna put dor he never really pleases you but he could I mean honestly when I was at the Joint practice with the Cardinals and the Colts dor was the most Dynamic receiver that I saw on that Cardinals offense I mean wild just my eyes they were lying to me that that's just what I saw that's why M bride's getting all the talk you know tight end's the only one getting the talk well it's like he can't get all of the ball so using a receiver could it be dor I I I was a big fan of dor when he was coming out but it was just I mean it was one of those things like he's just a puny pun like the the Trey Tuckers the Kelvin Austin the all these guys that Rond Del Moore he beat out he beat out Rond Del Moore he sent Rond Del Moore to Atlanta he sent him packing this guy's still 26 years old I mean I it's so tough It's so like trash man comes back and says yeah man he's the he's the most athletic he's the most dynamic player in this offense and you're like but he hasn't done anything in five years like do can I can I can I can I click that button can I click maybe he was just trying to keep his job I don't know look remember we've had players that break out and have this wild thing that happens just one year just one just make it this year I like it I like it I think Alex would be playing the song right now if he was here you can go find the ultimate draft Chi to rosterwatch dcom that'll do it for the lisaanne Fantasy Draft show brought to you by rosterwatch Show Close dcom rosterwatch do.com for Lisa Lisa to get the ultimate draft cheat sheet I think Lisa is live on sirusxm from 6:00 to 8 Eastern on Sundays during the season rosterwatch Nation will be live on Ser 6m from 4: to 6:00 Eastern on Saturdays you got to go check that that out as well you cannot afford not to draft with the ultimate draft t latch.com for Trashman for Lisa for Byron for Alex I'm Cody Carpenter until next time we appreciate you we love you and we thank you [Music]