Joe Rogan says tons of people "died suddenly" from COVID vaccine

Speaker 1: This is really painful to watch. On  the bonus show today, we are going to talk about   the continued influence of the Joe Rogan Podcast.  We are going to talk about how, I mean, listen,   influential is the most accurate word about the  Joe Rogan podcast, and that's part of why this   is so painful to see. On a recent episode, Joe  Rogan, on whose show I've appeared twice, just   casually said, you know, it's crazy how many young  people got vaccinated and then died suddenly.   This is one of the most, what's the word? Is  it destructive? Is it pernicious? Is it just   dishonest? Is it inaccurate? Is it depressing?  What misstatements and inaccuracies about the   Covid vaccine? I'm going to play it for you. Then  we're going to talk about it. Listen to this.  Speaker 3: This is how many people  were promoters of the vaccine,   then died suddenly. It's crazy how many young  people just died in their sleep after they took   it. And everybody's like nothing to see here. Speaker 4: Sudden adult death syndrome.  Speaker 3: Yeah. Just died suddenly. You ever  go to the died suddenly Instagram page like,   Holy. There's so many and so many people like  talking about people who are, you know, anti   Darwin anti-vaxxers and then then you're dead.  Sorry if you bought, you bought into the wrong   bullshit. But that's, you know, if you really want  to get cruel, that's Darwinism. Do you not know   they lie by now do you not. Are you not aware of  the opioid crisis? You're not aware of vioxx? Not   aware of the very like to 25% of all FDA approved  drugs that get pulled? It's one out of four and   you're like, really? You're an anti-vax really  reality. What are you, a conspiracy theorist? You   fool. Darwin's going to do its work with you.  You're modifying your genes, you idiot. Like,   what are you doing? What are you doing? You're  just going to trust Pfizer. Well, they do support   Anderson Cooper. Brought to you by Pfizer. Speaker 1: Oh boy. Oh my goodness. Where do   you even start with this? Where do you even start?  With the amount of damage that is being done here?   You know, every single one of these claims is  wrong. First of all, the idea that the vaccine   modifies your genes. It's not true. It's been said  so many times. It's been explained no matter what   sort of medical expert you have, explain it. Some  of these folks just don't want to accept it or   believe it. He talks about the movie died suddenly  and the Facebook page died suddenly. That is a   propaganda film, widely debunked and completely  non empirically based. Which features a bunch of   headlines that you can find on Google about people  that died and then suggests this never used to   happen. Healthy young adults never used to die.  And it's happening now at a greater rate than it   used to. And it's because of the vaccine and the  film has gotten. At one point it was more than 20   million views. It's so hard to know because it's  on different platforms. And yeah, tens of millions   of views is fair to say. And, when you look into  the film, you find that, number one, the rate of   these, deaths hasn't increased other than by  the degree to which we know people have died   from Covid. We also have investigated some of the  specific people that died suddenly. They weren't   even vaccinated. So some of the people featured  in the film were not actually vaccinated with   the Covid vaccine. So total propaganda film that  is leading people dangerously astray. And then,   you know, there's always some, as Sam Harris  said to me last week in our interview or the   week last week, you. Sometimes these conspiracy  theories have some grain of truth. And the grain   of truth here is pharmaceutical companies  have lied and pharmaceutical companies have   done bad things. Joe Rogan mentions vioxx and  he mentions opioids. It's really important to   understand that these are dramatically different  sorts of medications. Vioxx was an Nsaid designed   to treat pain and inflammation, marketed for  osteoarthritis and for some acute pain conditions,   and it was withdrawn from the market because there  were concerns it would increase heart attack and   stroke if you used it for a long period of time.  Okay. The opioid crisis. Opioids are an entire   class of prescription pain relievers. You've got  your oxycodone, hydrocodone, morphine and others.   The illegal drug heroin is also an opioid. They  are known for pain relieving effects, but huge   addiction, potential overdose. We, know about the  Sackler family and their, deliberate, deception   when it comes to clinical trials, side effects  and risk for addiction, etc.. Vaccines are meant   to help the body generate immunity without getting  the disease. That's the idea. And vaccines are one   of the most effective ways to prevent diseases,  including diseases that can cause death, as well   as diseases that are that are less likely to cause  death. So when you look at the risk profiles with   vioxx, the risk was related to cardiovascular  events, and it was significant enough to say,   we've got to withdraw this from the market. With  opioids, you've got addiction risk, dependency,   overdose, death risk. These are significant, and  it has generated a public health crisis. Vaccines   are low risk. Most side effects are extremely  mild and temporary. Even the more rare serious   side effects almost always resolve on their  own. When we've talked about the myocarditis,   pericarditis, and do you sometimes get a serious  adverse event? Are there a few people that have   died from serious vaccine side effects? From  just about any vaccine? Yes. But the point is,   you don't suspend an incredibly successful  and effective public health campaign because   any intervention can have these extremely rare  side effects. You look at opioids and vioxx,   it's a completely different, situation. So anyway,  the vioxx opioid comparisons are just absurd. It's   really sad to see Rogan go in this direction.  And, you know, I don't know who people write to   me. They go, David, you know, if only he would  allow you back on, you could set them straight.   First of all, it's not about setting people  straight. I don't know if he would ever have   me back on. I would appear anytime. That's what  I've said. And, that that's where I will leave it