"Positive" Vs "Negative" Spurs Fans ARGUE After Newcastle United Loss *HEATED*

referee referees heyy let's let's not make this a fight let's let's not let's not label each other and then it will work I think just no let's talk about the football yeah St let us know because we've heard from Arian now so let us know your thoughts on the game today were you do you come away from that very frustrated or can you find any positives in a in a kind of certainly a more positive performance than we've had at St James's park for the last couple than the last couple years it's what I expected by to be um I came on we are Tottenham TV 3 months ago uh there was a video clip that got 800 comments of pure hate and negativity because I said the signing of teimo Vera is a major red flag it's a catalyst of what's to come in terms of transfers and what happened the three months after that is exactly what I predicted then and the Yes Man and he's accepted mediocrity into the club today's game is an example of it we went to St James's Park and for the first 20 minutes it was all Newcastle we got a foot in the game uh okay we're one n down but the game still salvageable second half the first 20 minutes we were by far the better team however there's no point having all that domination and possession when you create zero clear-cut chances which is what we did today now why can we not create clear-cut Chances with all that domination with this great team what a squad it's because of two things one Kazi Rich harison who didn't play today OD Deber team o Vera Brennan Johnson against the top 10 teams their stats are shocking they failed to turn up in 80% of games goals and assists and this is what happens they're not good enough for the level we want to be at we can cling onto hope and fake positivity they're going to come good give it a chance but this was a top 10 team and they failed to deliver what we needed was the quality to turn that possession into goals and assists and clear-cut chances and you saw it yesterday with Man City lots of possession very dominant but they've got the quality to convert that into winning goals against another top 10 team and we struggle in 80% of the games to do it I'm not making this up guys these are facts and the stats and the data backs it all up so what then happens is because we don't capitalize on all that positive momentum the other team suck up punches us because we've got Defenders that aren't coached to Man Mark they're too far apart instead of marking the Newcastle players go back at those clips look at the body shape none of them were in good body shape to transition into a defensive play and because we didn't sign a quality number six there's no one there to try and intercept anticipate that through ball which is what a quality number six can do so that ball splits Us open and then we haven't got the pace because we can't play this suicidal High Line with without Micky vanen without him this whole system of Defending on the halfway line collapses and individual eras because we're not coached to Man Mark gets exploited you look at the first goal that didn't come from a Counterattack that didn't come from a high line that's just an attacking play down the flanks but we don't know how to Man Mark and this is exactly what we saw last season I think we're better in terms of attacking possession this season I've seen enough against Everton and leester and Newcastle to say in that final third we are better with possession and pinning teams back but that's going to mean nothing against the top 10 unless you've got killers and those quality players to convert that into goals and big chances and against the top 10 this will happen because they will pick us off and they will Sucker Punch us this is everything I saw last season and and just to top it off guys I just want to read this to you um this this was the bench today if we're such a great team such a great Squad that fans are claiming will get third place and second place do you do you guys honestly think this is good enough Fraser fer Jed Spence Ben Davies bergville Alfie Divine Alfie gray two kids who are unproven at this level bonc turbo Teo Vera and Brenan Johnson is that the caliber of bench that can come on and turn this game around for us I don't think it is and they' proven they're not and I you against arsenal we give them one hell of a game we will give Arsenal a game but we won't beat them because the same thing will happen sadly yeah um okay so I just in a second I'm going to bring Arianne in um just to answer those points but I just want to say in terms of what you're talking about with the bench I just want to read you newcastle's bench and we'll see if we think it's much stronger dubravka tripier tanali Matt Target osula Hall Murphy who obviously set up that goal aliron and another Murphy with an a I don't know what what his name is I I don't know does that better no I'm just saying I just think in terms of you know about team Newcastle Newcastle Newcastle who have been in the Champions League more recently than we have and obviously we're swimming in the same Waters I don't think their bench is particularly much stronger than ours that's all I'm saying narrative you've spun the narrative I never compared our bench to Newcastle my question is is our bench good enough we're one nil down are we good enough to bring on a group of players that can turn the game and win we only scored because of an own goal we didn't even score because we created a chance that we put in the back of the net we needed an own goal so yes we can argue and debate who had the better bench but that's not my point my point is when I look at our bench in a game like this a tough game have we got the caliber of player to come on and really change it and I don't think we do and when I look at the wide players today the amount of successful crosses or passes to a white shirt was so poor yeah so you know guys I want I want it to work with an I want this team to win trophies I've trophies for 25 years man I just don't see it with this one with this system that we play this suicidal system and we didn't bring in the quality that we needed to bolster that starting 11 yeah let's let's just see what Arian has to say about that before we bring in another we're going to go we're going to go fourway basically in a second so Arian just just see what do you say about what what do you have to say about what stelle said I'm going to start with the things I agree with because surprisingly we agree with on on two three things pretty much I think the one thing is my and I think most people's biggest disappointment with the transfer window was that we did not bring in an elite number six that was always the thing that I really wanted uh I will agree with him there the second thing I will agree with him is uh I do think uh I think this is actually a positive thing he said so it doesn't surprise him that I agree with him I I do think that we absolutely were a lot better in possession um and there was nothing I agree with I actually forgot it it'll come back was it about the bench no I didn't agree with him the bench and here I was going to explain that uh first of all uh I think you know kind of to your point about how the bench were similar obviously we both brought on uh Wingers and they brought on mury and we brought on Brennan and I think both of them had very good games off the bench uh Brennan was probably changed their game in that second half on Off the Bench and I think the reason our bench looks so much more poor than it really is is because we have two forward line injuries so we're already using death we're already going into our death and also vent uh so we have three injuries uh that are first team players and so we're already into our depth and our bench is suffering because not because our depth is necessarily bad we feel that a starting 11 today that is consistent of three players who would not be starting I don't think OD will be starting I don't think um um Ki starts every single game you know salanki has to be playing that game for example Arian just quickly is there a way to turn you up even more because you're quite quiet especially compared to St have you got any way of turning up your volume I have a different microphone I can try to use oh no it's better just just speak as close to the microphone as you can yeah keep going um but I I don't agree on the depth thing because I think we're already going into our depth difficult same with that Newcastle word so it's a little bit difficult to say our bench is trash because if we have a fully fit Squad we have um probably odbert and Rich charison to add to that and uh the thing I really think was silly to bring up is to bring up the thing about team over burner and I agree because he did come on today and he was was [ __ ] awful um but uh to to kind of single out team oer as some kind of signal that the whole project is like a big red flag or it's going down the wrong path I think it's uh it is attacking a STW man because we're looking at we we're we're seeing multiple signs of progress in different areas we're seeing areas that haven't progressed enough that's not what I'm saying that every single facet of the football club is getting better obviously there are play like I think our front three is worse right now than it was two seasons ago courtesy of Harry Kane leaving the club but when you look at the entire um project and the way we look as a football club as an institution I definitely think we're progressing in more way I think the thing is we' my thoughts on the window as a whole are that we've had two seasons to refurbish the squad all the foundations that needed to be laid are laid now and I'm going to say this in a way that I think you'll agree with me where I think that there are there's literally not a single excuse left for anybody anymore there is no more Deadwood to sell there are no more foundations to lay there is no more identity crisis we have exactly the same profiles that an has said he wants that Levy has said he's going to back him with and the next move has to be you can compare it to like Arsenal's project where they spent three years under oura from 2019 to 2022 refurbishing Squad they moved out the likes of aubameyang they moved out the likes of La Gazette the likes of Jaa even the likes of um um their Defenders like mustafi and um all these players holding they moved on these players it took them three years to refurbish their squad and like with the profiles with the likes of Gabrielle they loan out CBA and brought him back and then they moved to buying these big money Players massive gamechanging signings like Declan rice right and that is the next step we need if we do not break our transfer record again in the summer if we do not break even hit 100 million signing that is going to be a massive massive massive deployment I think there is no bigger test of character for Levy in this season in the summer because if he fails to see this project through that I think will be the point where I'm going to say look even I can't say that there's anything anymore so I'm gonna say it that way so stelle can say see that I'm not trying to be happy yeah Arian stelle hold your horses hold youres St hold your horses just for a second because we're going to bring in Mr Box Office who I think deserves uh I think I imagine he'll say something similar or maybe you and stelle can work this out between you but Mr Box Office are you there how you doing can I can you hear us you want to reply to what Arian said though there's a lot there that needs to be debunked let's Ste your say speak say say what he needs to say all right Mr Box Office is now presenting the show St you go for it then hey man he's the professor of Truth and entertainment bother me me why you put the why you thr the shots already Bob yeah I'm just saying he wants he wants he want he wants to reply let him have a reply that's saying I'm being a gentleman here you still can't let it go can you you can't him out please big up to above anyway moving on still doing it still go for it brilliant I I told you let me go first of all the Verna thing is not a strong man the Verna thing was proven true because we didn't sign hardly any players of proven quality we were told gallaga Netto e Alis we were told all sorts none of them was signed not a single one it was Project telletubbies a bunch of 18 19 year old kids half of them unknown so it wasn't straw man it's what happened secondly we don't have the squad in depth because the whole point of a squad in depth is when you do get some injuries you turn to the squad in depth and look what they offered us nothing up front so there isn't that Squad in depth at this level the top 10 to suggest that we don't have any Deadwood I'm sorry te o Vera John son OD bird richison Kulu none of them and I've got the data and today's data adds to the existing data to prove against the top 10 they're not good enough against Nottingham Forest ipswitch Southampton Everton they'll be fine they've got really good stats but this is the level we want to compete at that top level they're not good enough so we've got rid of Deadwood but we've also brought some new Deadwood in and anyone that thinks Daniel Levy is going to go and spend a 100 million on top level players we have never in the history of this club ever spent the budget whatever it is50 million 170 million 200 million 100 million we've never done what I've seen Arsenal City and Liverpool do and that is to spend the whole Budget on two or three top players and that's it Allison van djk 150 million Erin harand and uh Jack greish 160 million I Declan rice Kai havit jury Timber 200 million if we've got that kind of money L partii Scott man and Posta cogo they'll be under strict instruction get as many players as you can for the budget and this is why we never ever ever get to that promised land and this time next season I'm looking forward to Arian joining me and finally accepting as he said even I have got to admit this Ley thing isn't working Arian in a year's time you'll be sitting with me man okay Arian I'm gonna ask you to hold your horses let's let Mr Box Office let's yeah thanks iot down on purp I knew it was going to go next I wrote to man okay Mr Box Office good to see you mate how you feeling let us know your thoughts anything to uh anything to extend on on what Stella Arian have said mate I think this is quite clear really where I'm going to go with this at the end of the day you know what I mean because yeah I I'll give you some positive we did play okay we played okay we had more of the ball yeah great but everything I said in everything I said over the summer and I wasn't even bothered about the summer cuz I still think Angie's leaving at the end of the season and that's it cuz he's going to get frustra you can see clearly there there's a disconnect there that's it simple and I said on Mr the box office TV but the point I made is I don't trust any of those midfielders the forward line is rubbish absolute rubbish we didn't get anybody that was decent in that forward line right we were making we were twerking for uder right when he came in I said sat there for why why he he's raw I saw it straight away he's raw right and then people say well he's only 19 well why are you putting him in that position then I get people saying he's better than Johnson well that's the quality that is the that is the quality that you're talking about Johnson you might as well get Bine back and there's a reason why now I'm saying I rather have Hy beer back in my Midfield when I kept on saying to people he's bang average he's bang average yeah another one as well where's Archie gray where's Archie gray could you see AR gray cuz I don't know where the generational Talent was where is he where is he bro I couldn't see him again you see what I'm saying they're not ready you see what I'm saying we didn't get a Winger to like why do you not get established player and again I go back on what I said it was against Leicester as well the same thing who put the foot on the ball and said let's to slow this down does anybody put the foot on the ball and put this slow this down let's control this game right now no one the only one that did it was Madison and Madison he can't do everything can he that's why I said I wanted to lock a there yeah someone experien yeah someone experienced next to Mt someone next to um um what is his name um Archie gray or bval would learn so much more than when basuma then basuma thenar yeah because he's least he's got someone there to say wait a minute guy wait a minute here no no no no no no just let's just calm it down here let's just keep the play that's it let's just keep it playing you know um um what is it atic on Tuesday you said a very good point you said let's do the double pivot yeah right you said let's have a double pivot with one two midfielders yeah but I said to you it's a great idea I don't trust any of those fielders though if you put a loell next to Archie gray you know what I mean he's learning he's learning that's why I said I I you know what I'd rather have paren in my team right now than Teo bloody Verner the blow average Shane long because I'm sorry you're not learning nothing off him again we are not learning anything off his players at the moment you know what I mean there another thing as well which is again showing the characters of our team we've got too many nice players at our club way too many nice players at our club yeah the forine too nice the captain too nice you know what I mean and that's why we're not going to win trophies this season because man united have got it Liverpool have got it yeah man city have got in abundance what that's why they got Guan back in their team you know I mean sorry I'm going to Rattle your chat because they're all saying get get me off off the show but Mr Box Office never not going nowhere the night me by the way if you don't know get to know by the way yeah right you and Arsenal who are going to give us a new one at the top hot Stadium I still need a ticket by the way still if you can get me one by the way you know what I mean yeah I'm going to give us a new one yeah because we are going to be relying on the below average Emil hesy charlon who I would lead tomorrow sanki we're never going to see because he's always going to get injured people saying that vanen is we're missing vaner well that that Hing Hur is going to be clicking clicking how many games we got this season loads of games this season by the way and by the way Aran by the way big up to you for actually debating Us by the way cuz a lot of people don't have the bottle to do this by the way yeah a lot of people and a lot of people as well you know what I mean yeah right is that in Europe they're going to have a new one on us you know what I mean because they're not stupid you know what I mean and that's it that's all I need to say and that's it that you that you on I'm done if you don't know get to know i' had enough of this crap um just Arian yeah you've written some stuff down so you go for it now mate okay so I'm going to first I'm going to go in order of he said so um he brought up the database of how Verner and odbert and uh who are you know K these people are all against the top 10 teams last season for Spurs first of all I want to say runner's on loan so I don't know if he really counts as Deadwood to get rid of next summer uh second of all what's up protot he part of the problem uh I understand no but I'm saying my point was about the TR transfer window and I said that we don't have any more Deadwood to get rid of so it's not like Ron's on contract that's what I was trying to refer to so if if it like I said here's what I was saying just to like re full up my point on next summer like I said if if this if we don't do the right things even I'm gonna say look I can't even I don't have anything else to say because everything all the foundations have been laid and now we have to you know shoot you know fire the big gun and with verer being on loan for example that's something that we don't have to actually worry about because he's gonna [ __ ] leave anyway uh but what I was gonna say is your database of how good aoert is at a SP shirt or um like what richardon kosi and Verner right odbert your database is three games large it's not big enough to make any sort of conjecture at all in my opinion I think that's silly last season and today's first I'm basing on last season Arian against the top 10 teams and I'm basing on today's game which is the only top 10 team we've played yeah I understand what you're saying I'm just saying I don't think what you have is substantial enough to make it make a call like that especially for a young player like that playing in a big team for the first time and I don't think it necessar bad today either um I don't think it was great but I don't think it was poor uh anyway large enough to um to make that AR you're cutting out I can't really hear you I'm trying to make my point games is that not substantial think Aran he's saying 22 games I mean I think I would argue that maybe the games he's played for Burnley 42 so 42 games I think I'd argue that the games he plays for Burnley who are a bottom of the league team against and how they perform against the top six teams don't don't they're not the same I disagree I disagree barab I disagree I understand that you guys disagree if you guys didn't disagree you would your point but I'm saying that I disagree no no no I get I get your point I get I get what your these are facts the St is true but Arian I I see your point but unfortunately we shouldn't have never putting him in that position in the first place you know what I mean because he's raw in a team that haven't won you get what I'm saying now I get I get I get where you're coming from mate you know what I mean but unfortunately you're coming you're coming towards two people yeah one that is just done he's done at the moment right right cuz I've seen this before mate it's not it's not that I'm listen Arian I was in your position when I was young as well yeah I'm Now 37 years old yeah I'm 37 years old I used to be 18 I used to be young I used to have Impe b as well I used to see this myself I used to be like you yeah see thinking these players were actually decent but then you start to see what is actually going on and like I said before right okay when you see Liverpool's team right you see the quality of their team if you put quality forwards like Liverpool got in this team right now you don't see the problems that we're having at the moment I 100% agree with you and that's what I'm saying kind of pointing on to your next point that all the foundations all the prospects all the Futures all the stocks have been bought all of that stuff is done and in my opinion the biggest test of character for Le and I'm going to say this I wrote this down I wrote down I'm not saying Le's gonna do it I'm saying this this is the final hurdle okay I think Aran about Ley we said this summer was going to be the big one and Andrew was gonna challenge the league title we move the goal post every year because we don't want to admit when things don't work for us let him finish his how many fans said St let him finish his PO and and then yeah because we know what you're saying but I want to hear his Point again I equally like I said with you I'm I wish we had gotten equality 6 in this window but I'm saying that time if they had any amount of time the very last minute they could have done it is next window am I saying it's the correct thing to wait until next window and not do it next of course we all want success now I'm just saying that we have one more I have one more window of patience I'll put it that way my my amount of patience that I have before I turn into you guys is one window One Summer window okay I'll say it that way I don't know if you're satisfied with that but that's how I'm gonna say no that that's a fair point that's a fair point to be fair to be fair yeah and and then you guys brought up our depth not giving us results I don't think our depth gave us no results I think the thing is we were digging into our depth and when it comes to results and the performance we had a very good performance were we clinical enough no we have two senior Strikers both injured no matter how you spin it that's bad luck is it acceptable that we don't win games no it's never acceptable to not win a game you want to win a game no matter what the stand situation is however our depth no matter how deep it is you can't have more than two quality Strikers if Holland when they had Alvarez if Holland if Holland and Alvarez had gotten injured would they have won the game probably because they have about 18 forwards but let's look at Arsenal instead because I picked the bad example let's look at Liverpool or Arsenal all right if uh like HS and saaka get injured in Arsenal's front line what happens if Liverpool if Salah and Z get injured what happens to their front line you're missing you're missing the second you're missing the second point that I said which is Arsenal know how to defend Arsenal are coach to defend they signed excellent Defenders and tactically are very Savvy we are the wild west of Defending right so it's not just about the forwards it's about the defensive strategy it's chaotic it's absolutely any team that puts pressure on us or really tries to cut US Open we don't know where we're running we don't know who's picking up who we don't know what's going on around us this happened last year and I've seen it against Leicester city and I've seen it against Newcastle now so it's two things that I see fundamentally wrong one half I blame Levy for these transfers and these signings that for me don't work the other half I blame an the way we're set up is on an if isn't playing for Spurs because he's injured you cannot play that High Line because we've seen exactly what happens and what does he do he does it again I think um AR well one thing about Arsenal arsenal were not that Savvy defensively until they brought in Declan rice I will say that uh that's why they finished fifth the season we we trumped them uh and that's another thing I'm saying look when I say the one wi League without de Ryon got to the semi-final of Europe we got to the final of Europe with a much worse Squad that you can't go on C team to to Arsenal Arsenal have been defensively good for two years now one season without declin one season with declin one season yeah it was it was CA it was C back that really made the difference for them did they finish no but Barnaby the way they're set up they don't invert the fullbacks high up to so that the other teams can exploit the channels they don't play with center backs on the halfway line the way we do they have a number six even if it wasn't Declan rice it's parte the way we're s defensively they play Four center backs and a number six yeah yeah they are what you saw today Arian that that winning gol for Newcastle we saw that how many times last season talk to me about that talk to me about that bit um I think well look with an we know he's gonna play that [ __ ] Island no matter what we say I think I definitely think that it's suicidal to do it in some that's a problem I don't think I don't think there's anybody who will say it's acceptable the way we use this Highline all the time what I will say is I think that Highline is a billion times more successful F if we have a six that can that's better than buum by about a factor of 10 right because that Highline Arsenal play the highest line in the league statistically speaking what about Arian the idea I said Sor to interrup you mate but the idea I said and I have to credit asmatic because it wasn't my idea he said this on Tuesday right the double pivot right what if you have a double pivot of somebody like someone experienced like a locatelli someone experienced loell next to not gray so he can grow you get what I'm saying you know what I mean I think that was the idea with with sa and basuma though the the problem is again the problem is again we don't have somebody like kind of I'm kind of building on what you're saying here we don't have somebody for arer grade to learn off of that's that's the thing someone to hold the ball you know against Leicester you see against Leicester when we got let in that goal everyone was going mad yeah and the thing is though bentor is the perfect number the perfect guy that could sprad the ball around like like a Michael Carrick for instance you know what I mean that could just spray the ball around yeah right but we didn't we don't have it and Vore unfortunately it's just too up and down way too up and down he just too inconsistent for me right so you you put somebody who just puts a like a rodri you know just put the ball the putot on the ball and say you know what we need to just calm down here just pass the ball a few minutes just do it just just calm down Dan the hood says it perfectly just just put the ball down just just do that yeah and just do that can I right I'm not making out I'm a guru here guys please don't take it that way this isn't an arrogant comment I'm going to make I've done my UA be LIC coaching badges I've done it for years I've got players scouted signed into pro clubs I get to go to pro clubs I get to learn off of coaches far better than me this is what Spurs are doing under an and I've seen them coach this the philosophy is possession based football and to try and have that possession high up for two reasons if we've got the ball we can score and the opposition can't score and if we're high up and we lose possession there's a much longer distance for the opposition to travel to score a goal so we emphasize heavily on possession based football and fluid movements to try and cut teams over open and we and we favor the flanks more than Central attacks but we can switch to a central attack so that's the focus but all the time we spend coaching this we've compromised ours dedicated to defensive coaching kante favored more defensive coaching as did Jose than attacking an is heavy on the attack so what is fundamental for this to work and Man City have proven it you must capitalize on the possession in the attacking phase agreed if you don't capitalize on it because you haven't coached the defensive side enough when the defens is called into action they're going to get exploited at times and when they do you see what happens to us so we can carry on doing this defensive strategy you've got to make the attack superb and I'm sorry the players we've got at the club are not at the level of what man cities are and man city are the team that pull it off better than anyone else course so either we invest heavily in netos carav escalas EZ oshans or Andre's got to start coaching defensive play far better than what he's doing and this is how it's going to be at Spurs something has to give I don't believe him as a coach because I think I think poro for me just to add something before bar comes in is that I think poro for me should be more up that up up the end of the pitch I think he I think he's our best Crosser I think if you put poro more um um where Alberts is at the moment right I think he has more joy right I think he's got more connection to so cuz someone said um one of the corners said I don't know if it was you Arian there's no or I think it you asmatic yeah it said that there's no connection between the forwards son looks like a like you didn't see him in the second half didn't see him in the second half didn't you you know what I mean because he doesn't connect because he doesn't connect with some of the strikers you saw the connection with Harry Kane though didn't you you get what I'm saying so it's just that that's that's it for me you know what I mean so yeah sorry sorry sorry B yeah I I we've been going an hour and a half so I'm going to bring this to an end but just before we go can you all just give me some predictions for the uh for the Arsenal game start with you st score line aran's not ready yeah you I don't think we'll win I do think we can get a draw but if vaner Van's missing Arsenal win if if Van's available um score draw okay uh box office we go with you next two no Arsenal okay the r winning I complete the ranger winning without Dean race when he sent off for that game we're winning with I don't think I think that's a massive massive Miss for them with de rice I'd be a lot more conservative but I think we're guys thank you so much for calling in really appreciate that uh and try and enjoy the next couple of weeks before we uh smash Arsenal in the north London Derby yes very quickly very very quickly Aran I've put my number in the chat take take number and this this talk okay all right and as always come on you sp yeah and who who would have thought that that would end with stelle asking Arian out on a date I appreciate that more than anything else