UFC VEGAS 96 BETTING PREVIEW + FRANCIS RETURNS

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the you sometimes refers to Minnesota oh I didn't know that more if you're just in Minnesota yeah yeah that sounds like it yeah but they will call it to you swear to God yeah it's a little weird no don't tell that women but that's how I feel about like I don't think they should be able to call it's like South Carolina people saying they're USC or or like the Garden in Boston South Carolina say like the car is USC yeah I know l people down south say I went down there when I went to co I was like you're not us the Cox right I just want you to know that here you guys like the entire planet USC s what's UT to you Texas 100% Texas Tennessee a lot of people call Tennessee you know that that's that's probably the closer one but it's Texas Tennessee I don't know who they think they are they think they're like QC well their argument is Texas I'm only wearing Tennessee shorts as I saidas great te if you're in SEC like the uh SEC on ESPN this year UT will be Tennessee oh will be Texas I think so 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by me that was that just having the mic there self-inflicted is much better though heck yes um there you go um newswise before we get into the pfl has the press conference later today for Francis his return Jake Paul's gonna be so Jake Paul's there and then cyborg y hopefully we'll get some more fight announcement for that card because obviously I feel like we will we had AJ against uh what's his name the Paul Hughes yeah mcke versus Paul Hughes great fight great great fight I can't wait for that one hopefully maybe Bergos say Burg maybe a little October I was I guess ker just fought love to just run that I know Derrick Brunson five rounds oh yeah BR forgot about Bronson yeah because he he fought um Ray Cooper Ray Cooper a bit ago but now he's uh he hasn't fought in a while that was football season I bet Brunson will be on the card if I had to guess Brunson yeah I would think Brunson and burgers he was trying like I would think so name value yeah yeah and then about the pay-per-view yeah some and maybe there's some other guys that they have uh Ray CER Ray Cooper hav fight somebody you think they'll have what's what's his name fight um Doom Bay and and then what about that other guy who he fought that they resigned I'm not sure the other french guy yeah and then there they have that guy who calls like him like not The Godfather it's something lazy King oh The Lazy Lazy King yeah maybe lazy King gets on the card yeah um we're broadcasting that by the way oh no so like if you want to watch the press conference you could watch it on the spin and backfist channels on Twitter on Twitter yeah maybe YouTube uh I don't know Twitter I know for sure Twitter for sure will be broadcasting it so if you want to watch the pfl press conference later which you should want to watch it 1M on the spin and backfist Twitter how about that and then MV there was a the CEO said that he was interested in getting some new names for fresh divisions but then unfortunately this morning M have got into a car crash it seems like he seems like he's okay but he said no photos yeah and it looked like the window is shattered serious car you see what his license plate was what was it Mo 57 UFC oh wow that's pain that's pain Muhammad Mo I call him that I guess Mo yeah yeah yeah and then oh Mo's funny down at the bar UFC I wonder why 57 some people just have a number that I don't know did he fight at like 57 kg or something I don't know that would be no maybe two and a half it's 2.2 so that that would line up to 125 135 maybe great job yeah a little detective work that was that was our that Amer brains working too like we were like 2.5 no it's 2.2 yep yep y but uh yeah best wishes to him I don't like the guy but I don't want him to get anything correct oh yeah we're pretty clear on like we we wish no bodily harm except for well Casey Kenny oh my God God I've I've been wondering what happened to him he's not he was not a bad fight he lost that really close fight to Dom Cruz and now he's kidnapping people oh [ __ ] I forgot he fought Dom really close fight yeah is he the one who was yelling in uh kgb's corner like she's like a like she oh you might be right was it oh that would be bad because she hasn't been around the best people yeah no she hasn't her interview with you yeah yeah remember she he said something like it was like not motivating was like blatantly racist yeah it was bad and he had he got in trouble for someone like offered to step up and kick his ass right was that Adrian Giannis who knocked him out maybe no that no that's Tony uh Tony Kelly maybe Tony Kelly he was the one that said no he was the one who said but I think Casey Kenny had something a little different that was like okay not exactly like that but made but yeah arrested on like kidnapping charges Tony Charan thing you're were talking about that was a Tony Kelly he knocked him out in Texas and was like them off yeah yeah yes um but yeah bad stuff weird headline not weird but just like shocking to see like a UFC fighter and then it was funny to see like UFC roster tracker Casey k X that was well yeah they have a no kidnapping policy kidnapping like I yeah I mean it's assault too it's domestic violence it's usually then where it's like a boyfriend girlfriend the girlfriend wants to leave he doesn't allow her and then it's it's unfortunate there was a guy um and then if there's a kid involved like that there was a Georgia player who got uh Rah Thomas from he was he had a kidnapping charge but it would like involved the kid too but the kid wasn't there it was it's all very confusing but somebody with a law degree explained it to me yeah um morab yeah a cut and then this was a huge W for Ev because EV two years ago was like Mor Rob's not the smartest guy and then Dana went up on that was the most Dana Dave thing I've ever seen where he's like we just have the dumbest guys ever we just have the dumbest [ __ ] guys yeah well I I've Loved a little the back and forth of them being like Oh like kind of giving I think maybe it was Kevin eoli or somebody said like kind of like now he knows where to aim and then I saw kind of the long and he and Dan Green being like yeah like you think you wouldn't want him to know but then I saw the kind of the like some of the longo Sarah guys being like Oh like oh like uh Sugar's gonna aim for his face like what a what a concept like being like yeah like no [ __ ] yeah I guess he could throw more elbows up towards his eye but I think it's more I think it's more the specific placement yeah but I guess also the cut I don't think is that bad from what ites it's not like some deep like I feel like if that maybe I could be out I feel you would have posted it if it was like a fight and it was like below his eye it was like right like here oh was below no it was above I thought it was like go to the side I thought it was I thought it I think if it's up here it's really tough because if it keeps opening then it becomes kind of like a GRE stretch cut that they talk about okay it was above but it like okay it was below the eyebrow I thought it was below below the eyebrow above the eye almost on the eyelid and then Su a great place for sure suas said we also have three weeks yes I will say though if morab pulls out and they don't have a good replacement it's the most disappointing card I think in the in UFC's history really in terms of hype yeah Dana said this was going to be the biggest card ever but do you think like now we got Alex how much of the hype is around the actual fights and how much of it is around like the [ __ ] concept of this fear I I just don't like I they need to be good fights in my opinion I know what you're saying that's a good point but I he M he definitely made good matchup stylistically like when you look at the car I feel like it's a lot of fights where it's like all right that's gonna be like Carnage that's gonna be Carnage they almost tried to make like Mexican style fights yes like putting like um what was like baham Mundos and like um like Torres guys are GNA like like they're gonna strike they're gonna throw hands guys with like I don't know if this was the actual purpose but a lot of guys with good chins are on this card yeah where I guess not morab Mor not that he's like getting knocked out all the time but he's been dropped in um the Aline for that fight for morab Sean Sean's very interesting because it's dropped like it opened like morab minus 180 now it's sounded like minus 130 morab there's some real love for Sean which I mean I think makes sense like look at how he kind of handled aljo not to say that aljo and morab are the same but yeah and also Mor Rob like like I said he's been dropped before and he hasn't faced anyone hurt like he's besides the yaan fight he's got hurt quite a bit he got hurt against cejudo he I mean he almost got knocked out against like the corpse of uh Marlon Maron Mar like he definitely he definitely is chinny um dricus has been taking a Victory lap this week oh my god well good for him yeah even on like Steve EG because Steve ERS said he wasn't that good said he was like a six out of 10 fighter so he posted a picture ers getting knocked out it's six out of 10 and then and then he even sent it to ersc oh he sent the direct message oh that's bad to be like hey did you see did you see when I roasted you and then Darren till caught it and Brendan sha till said I just want to come back to the UFC to kick your ass and then leave again hilarious to say hey I I finished my UFC career on what like a 3ight lose losing streak um please bring me back for a title shot for a title shot and then he tagged for a guy who already's beaten me yeah yeah yeah but I was close you know like that was basically what he saying he's like I was close he's like I had a good second round yeah um also want to remind everyone that this Friday August 23rd the pfl playoffs continue in Washington DC with welterweights and featherweights and you know we've gone to some cards Nashville the boys were at I went to the Hollywood Florida one me and EV went to the Connecticut one this one million dollars worth of game is going to be at they were also at cards in the past they've done stuff with the efl but this time it's winter go home always in the playoffs as Fighters compete for a spot in million dooll p FL World Championship don't miss the action this Friday August 23rd at 10 p.m. Eastern on ESPN and ESPN plus sometimes it's at 9ine this time it's at 10 so make sure you remember that and if you're looking to attend in person there's still tickets available so again tune in Friday August 23rd 10 pm Eastern on ESPN and ESPN plus tickets still available maybe you could go see wallow and Gilly some really good fights on this card um umad who won it last year he's against uh Gracie that's not really the best of fights but umala is unbelievable you think he's going back to back with the championship well Shamil Mah's right there and this Jamal musv gu is unbelievable yeah he's and that would be him against umanov would be a like a legit Banger that would be the fin that would be the the championship yeah that would be awesome but M has to gets through ramazan off first um have they announced they haven't announced where the finals are right no they haven't you think they'll announce that yes I think so yeah that makes sense and then lock rain against um yeah it's a good ass fight Kai kamaka was always like a guy in Bellator that you looked at and we were like he's pretty good he was in UFC for a little bit right I think he had like two or three yeah was um I'm excited for it's a it's a good card and um I think Ray Cooper was supposed to fight but I I think I heard that he may not be fighting I think he's hurt yeah um so look out for that we'll get into the UFC card a little bit this weekend it's not the best card um they're kind of in that it's another in between spot in between 305 and UFC noce um but it's not horrible like you you guys were saying it's not a horrible card but I guess you don't love a ton of bets on it it's just a lot of big favorites which the UFC like you have some you you see some squash spots but UFC is usually pretty I mean listen there are some like decently lined fights but there's a few like big um like Morales who's one of my guys minus 850 you got Zack ree's minus 575 I mean Kong Wang though is minus 1,200 off this card yeah just crazy there's definitely there's a couple um couple spots that I do like so just talking about the prelims on this card so going up to the Bazooka fight against Francis Fire Marshall um what what what are your favorite picks on the prelims like are are there fights in particular that you really like I would say a pick that I do like on the prims I like the borch of lantop under um I kind of like lawn toop there I don't hate K what's like I just I mean Bev's just very like he's a little bit cut and dry where it's like if you can grapple you'll like as long as you don't get hit win I I feel like but if you strike with him like he's probably Gonna Knock You Out I feel like both I mean like yeah but Chase Hooper dropped them he did that's true no Hooper and he was doing well too yeah so that's where no I agree with you I don't I don't hate the and like borov just finds ways I like him he's a good fight but finds ways to make his fights 50/50 at points for sure and there is a chance if you take this plus 180 dog on lawn toop like yeah Slava just [ __ ] knocks him out like that's that's that's why I like the under yeah because I I could see I could see him getting choked out I think uh caval lanti the girl just runs through josean Josan Nunes Josan Nunes is someone who's just kind of like been um figured out um yeah she's short has she has a lot of power very just like onedimensional and then I mean I I do like Francis Marshall um the fireman we were talking about in the the chat we saw Francis Marshall at pfl on Friday before he had this fight booked and then I was flying home on Tuesday and I was in the car Uber back to New York City and I saw that he posted on the story he's been looking for a fight we asked him on Friday and he like when's the next fight are you booked yet and he was like no I'm always telling them I'm ready I'm ready and literally sure he's ready I've kind of I've stayed in touch with him a little bit on like Instagram DMs I just I kind of we had a man he's good guy he's guy Jersey City guy and he had just I think in the last couple months he's been going down to American top team a lot to train and now just recently he moved down there like fulltime like to like go all in on it he really he they just kind of had him on the Shelf to be honest for like almost two years yeah it's crazy year and a half like it felt like for kind of like I don't really know exactly why Isaac dgeren killed him but Isaac dgan is like obviously he lost to uh CR Rod where he kind of just like he lost a lot of uh like he just his card gassed out gassed out but like losing to Isaac dgeren I know he also lost to Gomez but I that was even a super close fight like low volume which maybe but like also like that happens in a young fighter career he's young he's what eight and two now bazooka I think this is a great spot for him to get even find a finish um and also he's American top team doesn't take jokes like they take legit like if they think you're not good they're they're going to give your spot to somebody else and he's all in um and this is St Island vers Jersey City hobo it is yeah an East Coast battle and I do I just think there's something to like a human element of like I just and I we're closer the situation but with him like this guy he's just been legitimately starving for a fight like like I think you're gonna get a like Allin like will to die in that cage Francis Marshall in this fight he he wants to make sure when he gets this fight his next fight is a year and a half two years from now yeah it's let's let's get you back in there soon kind of performance so I think we see that out of him I like Francis Marshall there's a decent am of like pretty heavy favorites on the main card as well like Edmund opens the card like me too I think they just go to war I I honestly think Edmond probably knocks him out but I was thinking the same I like I almost was I almost wanted it round one I would it was plus 150 I would have wanted like a little more than that to be honest but I was hoping it was gonna be like 200 I would have I would have definitely pulled the trigger but I like the under as well I just think it's just gm3 I mean we've seen that I think the chin just isn't there like it once was I like him but I like the just never you just kind of never know with him he's a guy I could see going into broadcasting after he's done I could see that he's always like come off like pretty funny and self-aware in interviews and Twitter and [ __ ] so um Neil Magny also plus 575 against Michael Morales minus 850 under two and a half plus 140 Morales H Mor has to get a finish a finish he Morales is interesting because he's very like he's just very well-rounded and he's but he's not like the most like big time finisher yeah like I think he's four the usfc with like two finishes two decisions um I yeah I don't I don't hate it but he's also in that we he's also in that spot now where he's like 25 he's in that age range where like you could see the these like big improvements fight to fight but yeah but his wins are so like he beat Jake Matthews he beat Max Griffin like solid wins where like I think M Magny is like the next step if you think this guy's a real Prospect a real future Contender then we have the two Ultimate Fighter ones yep and those are both like closer odds I don't know the fighters have you guys watched the season I I have I've watched I didn't see Santos's last fight the one that was like just aired this week I've seen all their all the other fights Valentine is like he's very funny he's like this he kind of was like the almost like became coach of like their team even though he's like a fighter because he fought first he woned by knockout in literally like 20 seconds yeah and then fought again one a decision the Yoda guy just he's a just a big time like American wrestler okay I think he was like all- American type wrestler or definitely highle wrestler yeah um so very like kind of interesting stylistically I almost kind of like Yoda as a dog okay yeah plus I think he's I think he's tough I think he like has for what he's displayed so far I think he has a chin y um but Valentine is good he's definitely a good fight like I think the winner of that is like I think we're gonna have one of the better winners we've had in the last few years okay besid bad like battles people were saying that b had a nice career people said like this class of Ultimate Fighter contestants was the best like roster of contestants they've had in a while from just watching the fights I kind of feel that way because even Nathan Fletcher on this card um yeah he was he's a Patty guy yep and he lost a close fight to offley who's like in the championship yeah he lost like a really close early fight who's like a really good Grappler um but Fletcher's fighting on this card no that's what that's what I'm saying like they think highly of him I think Blaze our guy Blaze is going that makes sense because um I think they just uh they wanted him to like film a fight week Vlog for him Nathan Fletcher and I think they signed Nathan Fletcher yeah they I'm pretty sure they did he signed yeah and also hold on the so also the thing just with the cont of The Ultimate Fighter fights the guy Santos he was um he wasn't supposed to be like this o he wasn't supposed to be in the semi-final he like won the semi-final but there was another guy who was in like an awesome like War like one of the best fights truly face broke right I've ever seen he got some weird like I almost think it was like some sort of like rash or some type of thing or not even a right it was something that they like it was a whole thing like after his first fight like would he be able to fight the next time and it basically got determined like two days before like like couldn't get cleared wow was that the guy whose face broke I don't he was in I'm truly I anyone who's watching you guys too like I forget M episode like three or four one of the best fights I've ever seen you texted us about that one I watch incred like an amazing fight like I felt for the guy that won that he didn't get to fight in this fight it was an awesome fight both guys like knocked each other down they sign that guy or will they sign that guy that I would be wait till after the season's over the winner and then sign that guy I think he definitely at least gets a shot yeah in the in the UFC I think the loser of his fight could get a shot yeah just because it was so exciting like it was awesome yeah awesome fight um Angela Hill and Tabitha Richie I think kind of a pick him almost I'm gonna go with baby shark yeah me too well in a fight that I hate to say because I like Angela Hill East Coast person but like in a fight this close she loses a lot of them I also I embarrassed myself in front of Angela Hill um we took the elevator with her took the elevator with her after nille really and I was because Dakota pointed at her Corner after and I saw her waiting for the elevator and I had two a water bottle and then like a gator in my hand and then I was like trying to smoothly ask like oh are you going to you're going to have to fight Dakota now but as I said it I like dropped the water bottle and I got to tell you however it fell you would have it sounded like a gunshot and then I was like oh sorry that was really embarrassing she was like oh don't worry about it and then we she was like oh I was so shocked that Dakota really uh came at us and I was like oh yeah but uh she she was cool in the elevator yeah she was cool a little ins I don't know how much people care about this she might had a cocktail on her hand yeah three weeks out from a fight I listen I feel like figh I feel like people take that more I feel like that Fighters probably drink three weeks out all the time all the time all the time like we make a especially like we think they're like [ __ ] like these guys are like robots and they're like and after cornering someone I could see just having like a night cap or whatever like it wasn't like she was like visibly drunk at all yeah um just like had like a glass of like wine kind of thing or like drink Canon ear am I crazy for kind of liking him in this fight so caner Line's getting wider it's why 190 to bet him at plus like5 what I checked like a half hour ago I we talk about even the group chat I I wanted bet caner 205 it's anything over 200 I almost feel like I almost feel like obligated to yeah but barala it's just actually I like the under too under four and a half that's minus 125 I like as well I do like the under um but bralo just keeps looking better his hand I mean it was against Paul Craig granted but his hands looked really good I mean knocked them silly in uh in Brazil but the fighting nerds too I mean they've been the fighting nerds have just been running my pockets for like six months straight they just don't they never lose fights no they don't like I just bet they just beat me and beat me Megan Joe and DC and all I'm telling you there's going to be an investigation to them one day just say they just don't win they just I mean excuse me they don't lose they all they're GNA there's going to be investigation to them someday and also J because protest is the fighting and that's my guy so protest I gotta say bro I know we talked about it that guy he's Superstar he's he he though he only finishes like I didn't even realize it that's all he does he just finishes fights he's he's a killer finish fight smoke six can Ser I saw something no no no no it's you did he's special his I mean I mean no the Lee had never been knocked out before that is also he murdered the Le like literally was dead the Lee is f great Lee had had like it wasn't like the leech came back too quick after having a tough fight he had like two years off yeah he I mean that I mean that's the sound it made when he landed the left the sound was so loud's biggest betat of of Aer is gonna be on Richie baby shark no I guarante baby shark by split I got to I hope it wins I'm gonna be betting baby shark as well I'm in I'm in I'm in the mud with MPI she was very nice to me UFC X week but I feel like the language barrier we had like very it was just an awkward me and baby shark oh she speaks English but it's it's like you know a little broken yeah I wonder how her and Callum talk or maybe they just don't she speaks enough where like I could see them she could have a conversation for sure there were just some questions that I was asking like I'm asking like the Mount Rushmore of MMA fighters and it's just like I don't know if she knows what Mount Rushmore is um but another reminder we're broadcasting the pfl press conference later today so come back to the spin and backfist Twitter account or X account whatever you want to call it now I'm not calling it X I'm just I actually haven't updated my app uh for over a year [ __ ] and it still says Twitter on my phone yeah they'll make you eventually proba I know it's got to be com soon I know yeah it's coming um but look out for that Francis obviously his first uh like massive press conference for this fight the return of Francis andano to MMA Jake Paul hopefully some pfl playoffs slash Championship announcements some future fights maybe announced hell maybe they'll announce a new signing that's not like a I don't know but I could see bfl I hope they I hope you're right I hope they announce a few more like hopefully we see like a b Burgos and people like that on there it would be cool to be they have the talent to make a sick like main definitely a sick main card for definely I do like this weekend M inside the distance um I think I'm gonna take a shot on Kai kamaka plus 250 I don't hate that either to be honest with you and then um there's like I it's like I I think K kis of KV is like I mean he's safe like if you want to part piece I think brag is just going to get taken down a bunch and then you know um the Tyler Diamond Enrique barzola fights pretty good to start off uh I don't have as many reads outside of that but those four fights at the top umad of I wonder what he'll be like kind of inside the distance what his props will be but I mean he's minus 2,000 or 20,000 right now which is crazy but uh should be a good card should be fun and then we'll have all our finals set and we'll see what comes out of the press conference today Jake Paul will be there yep wait is is Cooper still on the card he is but I saw He's listed I was talking to somebody and I was like oh what do you think about Ray Cooper and or plus 300 and he said I heard he's out so maybe that guy had bad info though true every now and then we do get why did the wait they just the commanders traded J yeah I just saw that I'm a Commander's guy so I don't I don't love that it's doson and a fifth I thought over here I thought this was our year Dawson and a fifth round pick to the Eagles for for a third for a third round pick in two sevenths I don't love that I like Dodson Ohio I mean I mean Penn I just remember he was he used to cook Shawn Wade he was disgusting and I was like that guy dodson's incredible all right that was the spinning backfist MMA show for this week we will talk to you later