Noel Gallagher - Talks about Morrissey, Oasis Break-Up & more (Pt 2) - Radio Broadcast 05/06/2023

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and welcome back Dave Fanny here with our  number two of our Noel Gallagher special   that last interview by the way that you heard  before the news that was from 1994 nearly 30   years ago it was before the release of  the very first album from Oasis called   Definitely Maybe okay if I have the time I'm  going to play some new songs like Pretty Boy   and dead to the world and the title track  of the new album Council skies in this next   hour but first the new single and don't  forget by the way the band plays kilmaine   and Dublin on August 27th so from councils  guys this is open the door see what you find okay just let's take a look at a few other bits  because I don't know why I want to go back to   Morrissey because you mentioned we mentioned  it earlier on but um there's a there is a story   Russell Brand Los Angeles Noel Gallagher yeah um  just give us a bit of that first of all I mean   first of all you're with well I'm on holiday well  I'm on holiday with uh my misses and the kids well   you know I'm glad you told me you're on holiday  because I'll tell you one thing Morrissey never   found ocean Ronaldo he doesn't give two Hoots  what you're doing he only cares about himself   so Russell is living out there at the time as is  Morrissey and um so I called muscle's a friend   of mine so I called him and he was saying oh  I'll tell him honestly you're going to be in   town he wants to go out for a drink and that's  great and um so we've got to answer this English   bar you know and there he is and uh he uh he just  canceled a lot of gigs because he had pneumonia   or something and I was like uh now I've met him  before and um I was like I thought you were you   know I thought you were on Death Star you kind  of like the gigs and he's like yeah yeah here   I am it's so Morrissey those things so anyway  we get so we get to going stock into boozing   me and him and he was with a couple of guys and  um it pulls out this CD which he tells somebody   support it's not a CD of his music it's a CD of  like a compilation CD because the music's on the   music's Dreadful in this bar you know any cats  and that's all this stuff from the 70s jabrieth   and Brian prothero and oh yeah and all this and  he's he's kind of going to know this song and I'm   like no and he's going really it got to number  47 in 1973. and uh and I thought I'd never heard   of it but he paid me this track one night caught  out that night called pinball by Brian protherov   that I use as an inspiration for that's for  the track I chase it yes they call River man   um but he gets a lot of flack Morrissey because  he's a he's he's tricky but I I adore him oh yeah   I adore him I think he's a I think he's one of  the greats and he's one of those people I he will   make me laugh until I cry laughing he's uh and  and my jaw and stomach will be hurt in the next   day but I love him dearly and of course Russell  Brand wasn't drinking Russell Brown was trying   to hold on for d your life because Morrissey  was really being very very mean to him which   was very funny yeah okay yeah I've heard the  stories already Okay so let's take a look at   a few other things just while we're on you and  out in the public eye I mean the things that   we read in the paper sometimes are so funny the  way you can get a headline if you really want I   mean there's one here which is something about it  30 minutes ago I don't know it's yeah it's about   um you know exclusive no let's rip on the front  page of the mirror and that says Harry's and F   and woke flake now you're not talking about Harry  Styles here you're talking about you know who the   same Harry who by the way I mean you know this  royal family thing you go to Australia you can   talk about your album you can talk about Oasis  you can talk about anything they just want to   know do you know Harry and what's he like I  don't know everywhere you go even in America   they're obsessed with the royal family and  and uh well actually one of the funny things   about that night was where Morrissey was it  was the night of William and Kate's wedding   back in England and a woman came over to the  table and she said I excuse me but I overheard   your accents and I know you're British and I just  want to congratulate you on the wedding tomorrow and put his eyes up into his head so he had white  and he's just going I've never seen it's almost   like sitting out the Exorcist but um yeah the  right yeah I mean I I've been asked to come to   comment on the coronation and I was like my  generation don't care we don't care you know   one way the other like we just get on with it you  know I mean no one's bothered now the Queen's dead   no one cares well then here's a more important  question then um Highland um do you think he's   better with the with the ponytail I don't think  he's better looking like a sort of a Viking God   I think he can do whatever he wants with the  Barnet that guy is he's just the dragon slayer   he really is I love him he's a funny he's a funny  funny lad by the way yeah he's very funny and uh   I mean he is some player he's somebody yeah it's  great you know when we were outside earlier was   talking about current modern music and one of the  things you can give out of it all the time Bland   and all the rest is there's no room for or you're  not allowed to have mistakes yeah do you look   back on music from the past and say that's why  it's real it's human of course if you listen to   any early Rolling Stone stuff it's All Out  of Time Out Of Tune and the Beatles stuff and   all of them you know and just why you know  and it that thing of a band recording in a   room it's very very special that's why Definitely  Maybe it's a special special album because it was   the five of us doing that thing that we did in a  room No Frills you know a couple of overdubs that   was there um and uh recently listening to these  outtakes that I found in the in the Sony vaults   um it just it proves it you know it's just  the magic things but now yeah everything's   on a computer now you know people write  songs they're not even in the same country   you know it's it's it's a far cry from the  music that I and you grew up listening to   um but yeah I and all that's all right if you've  got a song if you've got a tune a chorus you know   I get asked a lot if you've got any advice for  our kids have got any advice and just like just   put everything into the chorus it's your life  it's life and death the chorus is alive and   death and uh I think Young Lads now when you see  bands as it's like over here but the Ladson band   seem to wear guitars as opposed to play them and  uh I just think songwriting is suffering I think   songwriting is suffering indeed so if that's  the case then like what what can be done or   can anything be done I mean like you were given  out recently about you said something to do with   friends like the TV program and coffee has and  the money is not going you see there's an audience   out that's basically getting music for free these  days well yeah they don't appreciate it well no of   course why how could you if you're not if you've  not got on the bus gone into town to buy it how   can you feel any ownership of it that's exactly it  and uh the thing about friends I never mentioned   friends I don't know how that's that's really it  said recently and that's that's the thing I've   been going on about for years that the the my  point was that people will gladly pay 20 euros   for two coffees but will refuse to pay for music  things that can change your life you know that   can make you a better person that can alter the  way that you think about things music has changed   has changed people's lives people now refuse  to pay for it but they've got a certain pray 20   euros for two overpriced coffees talk nonsense  for half an hour and get on with their lives   so expression and freedom of thought is that what  you really get out of music is that what music is   from what is it's fascinating songs themselves  are fascinating you can play 10 people   10 different people one song and they'll have a  different opinion I am but it's music for me was   always escapism because I had a pretty tough  childhood it was like I was just immersed in   in the music and you know you would close your  eyes and you just drift off and that'd be it   um so it means different things to  different people it's fun people   exclusively listen to sad music you know  some people excuse me listen to pop music but   they are you should pay for it because the  artist puts his life and soul into it do you   know you growing up there were so many people in  the family in terms of like you know other like I   mean nephews or nieces and all the rest of them  Etc and you've often said like no matter where   I am I really do have this feeling that people  from Manchester are just the best well we're just   different Tony Wilson said it the best when he  said we just do things differently um but yeah I   mean yeah every time I mean I go back regular and  yeah there's just there's something about it I was   driving around there I was up there for the match  the other night and I was just driving around   there and some funny people in that town but um  you know all the heritage in that City and the   bands that come together even if a conservative  estimate half a dozen of the great spans of our   lives have come out of that City the Bee Gees and  the buscocks and the monsters and Joy Division   Oasis song roses you said there earlier on that  you were driving around my story I'm glad I'm   sitting down here and we are driving I don't drive  I was just gonna say you weren't driving you were   being driven being driven yeah yeah I'm part of  the solution I'm not part of the problem sorry are   you telling me you've never learned how to drive  no never I think I won driving lesson in the 90s   and just like it's not for me so in London it's  both underground and taxis is this uh well I was   I used to take the tube a lot before the pandemic  and I've kind of gotten out of the habit of that   um but yeah the two I love getting another  [ __ ] I mean it's just easier I can't I can't   be bothered with cars never stop me buying a few  but I don't uh yeah people who drive cars I was   stressing out about nowhere to park and all that  thing and it's just I can't be bothered with it   but okay so like if you're around the tube I  presume you wear a cap or something about anything   okay so Noah Gallagher's sitting there  I'm sure there's some types who finally   realize who you are and have to say it to you  like they've won a competition or something   are you are you Liam Gallagher well no the  Liam Gallagher one I was going to get him   the Liam Gallagher one is this do you think  some people say it here just to annoy you   no uh I know obviously not to get her wrong I  don't I don't think so I think people genuine I   think because they recognize the face that's  because we look similar and he's he's more   prominent than I am it's just like you know that's  the way it is I wouldn't I wouldn't have thought   people say it doesn't annoy me anyway so right  so we're like okay well let's just go back then   to the band itself because in 2009 you broke it  up you were outside of gigging you said that's it   that's fine you seem to be very happy about that  breakup I mean it was the right time to do it   I think so we hadn't I'd I'd forgotten how to  write for Oasis I was I felt very constricted by   the parameters of the stadium Rock thing and I it  run its course the I mean the band the band still   doing Monster gigs but it was gonna it dawned on  me we'd been doing the same 12 songs for 20 years   with a few added new ones and it was the  same stuff off the first two albums and   yeah it just won his course to me as a as  a writer it had I died really and I had a   rebirth when I now I write my own pace and I  can write whatever I want but I'm five times   the writer I was now the one I left you know and  um I I just think if I if we were still together   and we were still putting out albums it would be  Dreadful really I think the music would be well   I'd never have written the death of  you and me I'd never written River man   I never have made who built the moon yeah I never  have got a chick playing the scissors I don't know   that would have happened I have some some of you  listening might think well you wish it had in the   bathroom but for me for me it's been uh it's been  a great it's been a great little trip the pipeline   purse I've loved it yeah but could you could you  could you go back and say we should have taken a   year off we should have taken two years off we  should have gone off to do our own thing and   then come back refresh I had mentioned that once  or twice and the other fella was to paraphrase   you're not [ __ ] putting me on the shelf for  three or four years or whatever you know and   you know you become institutionalized by a band  the way it's just it's just all that you know   yeah all that you know is playing what's the story  morning glory and cigarettes and alcohol and it   becomes second nature when it becomes second  nature becomes boring and there's one thing   I I can put up with anything apart from boredom  boredom is the enemy for me and if I listen not   that if I listen back to the latter part of Oasis  there's not it's kind of starting to get a bit   better but really there's not really a great deal  in there and everybody else has started writing   and it's not what it was Oasis was always Liam  singing my songs that's what it was and then   he wanted to write more therefore the other  guys wanted to write more so it wasn't really   worthy of the name on the cover of the record  for me and then there's other things going on   you know behind the curtain that yeah it  was just it just wasn't a very happy time   what about the documentaries that we've seen I  mean the documentaries are great yeah you know   they do give a good picture yeah yeah yeah  well when we were when we were the first one   supersonic yeah the um I have to give credit  to the producers who made it who I thought   it was gonna though because it started off as  soon as I started off as as what became the net   worth documentary right and um the guy said look  no one's interested in a gig you know we want to   we want to they want to see what it was like to be  in the band and I was all like oh God I don't want   to deal with the Fallout thing and all that and  luckily they said we think there's a great film   from the meant from the day you formed to the  walks on stage at now but that's the story and   I was like well they are the Glorious and credit  to them yeah they they pushed it all in that   direction so there's no there's no tragedy  in Supersonic and there's no tragedy in in   um the neighbors documentary which is perfect it's  perfect I just leave it at that you know because   future Generations I tell you what the supersonic  documentary sold it to Future generations and   the sir the the net worth thing it's just a  celebration of the 90s for me and I think I   think they're perfect I think we did well the  future Generations let's just say they're there   at the moment because like it's been 13 or 14  years since Oasis and certainly 13 or 14 or   15 or 20 years since the 90s and the amount  of people buying Oasis albums now the amount   of younger people under the age of 21 who are  looking for something it just isn't there and   you gave it to them you gave it to us I mean  and then you're giving it to them now as well   by proxy you're not even doing it yeah well that  you that's the The Testament of the of that well   I would say it's the Testament of the songs well  then why couldn't you go ahead and do all that   again and do like the the 10 best high-flying  bird sounds even do a beating would it be a   stretch to do a Beady ice that wasn't India so  it wasn't that wouldn't interest me in the slides   but you could you could easily easily easily be  done again but you know forget the money forget   all this 100 million being offered nonsense no  one's ever been no I know that I know that yeah Liam Liam believes in the tooth fairy right and   the Loch Ness monster so I'm afraid  he's not a very reliable witness um it would have to take an extraordinary  chain of events for it to happen   I'm not saying those chain of events could  could never you know would never happen but   I just don't see it our kid can be very  disingenuous with the way that he keeps   saying to people on Twitter it's happening  it's happening it's happening you know and   you know he said put his money where his mouth  is because he thinks it's happening but like   the fact that he would take you to court about  being you said he was hungover and couldn't do   some gig or something does that wrinkle the fact  that he's looking for the eight quid back for   the two vodka and tonics which your mother then  gave him but he says that's not the same thing   as getting it from from you a moment I gotta  get it from now uh there is a saying where the   boy protests us too much okay we're gonna play  another song this is a pretty boy which is from   the album cancel skies in other words the new  one from uh Noah Gallagher and high fine Birds to me well we've heard from Noel 2023 and we will  again in a few minutes and we've heard from   him in 94 and 2000 now let's go back  to 2008. Noel Gallagher family man   I've got kids now kids are a great leveler  you either you either raise normal people to   a certain extent or you raise idiots if you were  never to go to the shops and never to converse   with the woman at the checkout or never to be  seen to be buying a pint of milk or you haven't   got the right change anyway all that nonsense  the kids will grow up to be hideous you know so   when I take my kids around the supermarket um it's  kind of it's it's letting them know that although   dad is on the TV every now and again it's still  it's you know they get a bit my little dog when   the last time I was in other words whether I was  getting Hustle by some guy was saying can I take   a picture they're saying well I'm with the kids  and he said oh come on can I take a picture and   I was going look it was like Sunday morning I was  trying to you know we're trying to buy breakfast   and he said oh come on mate you know Legend my  little daughter is eight looked at him she said   I think technically you have to be dead to be  a legend and I was like looking out and going I'll give you that fatty you know  and uh that was it we walked off and   I was like it's great that she's been in a  situation like that she's got she's an idiot   it's dead you'd be dead to be a legend that's not  a brilliant you should be my PR by the way do you   like being a dad and is it good that's great like  your dad used to lay concrete floors love country   and western music he didn't really see him that  much but the country and western music side of   that did you pick up on that point he had the he  brought home uh the first guitar that was in our   house you know so there you go if it wasn't if  it wasn't for that but I dare so it wouldn't be   saying now but um that you know being I never  plan to have children they happened it's not   like how it's not like I I feel I'm super dad  or anything like that and it's not like I would   um it's all about the kids you know it's not it's  all about it's not all about the kids it's not all   about me and it's not all about the misses either  it's all about the families you know what I mean   but I like I like being a dad it's great fun  you know to be to be able to act like a prison   Ward and the two little kids it's brilliant you  know sit down stand up sit down again come here   go away I like all that brilliant what about the  responsibility side of it I mean there's another   side of it well that's what I that's what mothers  are for dancer for fun football chalk ice and   chips right the mothers have the responsibility uh  yeah I start I don't I I'm not educating nobody no   I'm here the shits and giggles right if you want  anything important to him go and see your mother   all right well look I'll tell you what I gotta  move back over there into Oasis for a second or   two can I wait for the family stuff which is the  Liam um thing how's Liam doing these days the all   right he's great he's he's he's started really  looking after himself and eating properly and   jogging apparently I see pictures of them in  the paper and I've yet to see it in person but   um it's about time it's time when you get to  the songwriting and like he had Songbird and   you made the album stuff the clocks for the best  dog because you didn't want the record company to   necessarily be in charge of that because you might  entrust them to do a proper best of and you put it   together you put an illustration for every song  yeah you put a red brick wall or something should   I tell you why that is he didn't well because  red is the color of Love Is that is that's right   that's a terrible answer for that that's right  yeah and he he well Liam being Liam thought it   was a in his own I thought it was a red toilet  wall was it no I don't know what it's from but   um you know there you go Liam Liam hasn't  got a clue what you want so what he feels   or what he knows or what he thinks he knows he's  exists in this darn tiny little bubble God bless it's one of the reasons why Leah might not  like you is because you're indifferent too   he doesn't like somebody being different  to him he wants to have a big opinion   ah no I think I I I annoy him greatly and  I understand that because I'm brilliant and   I'm better than he is you know what I mean and  that's fine you know any any and he annoys me   because I annoy him no but it's not that we don't  like each other I wouldn't go out for a drink with   him or anything like that I wouldn't I wouldn't  go to his house it's a Sunday lunch or anything   like it always ends up in arguments about you know  the track listing of definitely maybe someone you   know but um I kind of I don't I she's just he's  just another member of the band to me do you know   what I mean and I don't I don't I don't hang out  with any of the other guys either you know I've   got no particular favorites in the band sure I'm  I'm you know I was I was born a loner you know and   um but um yeah I'm indifferent to him he's  obsessed with me whether you would have been   a nurse you are the leader of Oasis is that just  can I admit yeah okay you admit that great okay   did that happen by accident or design does it  have to happen because it was hardly going to   be Liam no I think uh I think that every band  you cannot run a band as a democracy you come   to a certain extent but somebody has to  carry the can and make decisions and say   I think we should do this or we're going to do  that other than that you'd just be forever kind   of you know um everybody should have this I mean  everybody does get this saying all that but in the   uh the the the the die was cast in the early days  when bonehead quiggs yeah Tony McConnell and Liam   didn't have a clue about anything and I've been  in the music business for one of a better term for   five years previously so I kind of knew the moves  that we should be making and I just can't you   know and I was writing all the songs so everybody  deferred to me managers record company all defer   to me and it's just been that way ever since but  I don't mind that you know I was in a program in   London in the early 90s and I met you before  Oasis and you were working for a band called   Inspire campus and we had them on the television  program you seem to really enjoy working there I   got the person you loved being a roadie yeah I  loved it I thought you know when I was growing   up and I loved music and and I always thought I  would somehow end up doing music but when I got   the job was a roadie I thought that was it and I  was quite I would be quite prepared now to still   be a roadie now it was it was great money you  travel the world you don't have any picture taken   nobody knows who you are what a life you know but  I really oh that was the greatest gig in the world   it's like setting up a drum kit you know in South  America then how many people like me you know   that's before all this uh it's just they were they  were great there in fact I looked back on those   days it's probably the happiest you know because  you had no baggage you didn't have to be anywhere   you didn't have to be anybody nobody knew you  were yeah but it was uh yeah they were great days speaking of drums did you play drums in this  current album I played on three trucks yeah   I was throwing three tracks and you also went  solo not Oasis on a tour yeah last night what   are you telling us here uh what well for the  reason I really I well I enjoy doing that   um and the reason that went on that tour was  because stop that we just finished the last   tour and stop the clocks had just come out  and we weren't going to promote it right and   um they wanted to send me on a world promo tour  I said well I don't I can't do I can't be doing   a world tour of just doing interviews because the  only time I do I like doing interviews is when   I've got a gig that night they're the good bits  and someone said well why don't you do give them   I was like ah and there goes a chance to play  songs that we wouldn't normally play and um the   gigs were kind of really really small and they  were for competition winners it wasn't really a   pain thing but um you know I really really enjoyed  that I did something I look forward to doing again   do you know there's a momentum that happens that  if you can just kind of get in on it then you know   things can just go along and be really big for  instance when the Beatles came to America a few   months after President Kennedy was assassinated it  just was right time right place it was so perfect   this Beatles Invasion almost nothing to do with  them you had two big albums in the station in   Britain the two biggest albums and was like okay  now here we go the states is going to be huge   this is going to be fantastic it was the big thing  around the news getting to the airport and in the   airport Liam goes out to have them goes off do you  blame Liam no matter how big he might be in the   States now do you blame Liam for blowing the major  chance I don't I don't blame him but when but when   he says nonsense and interviews like saying oh I  can't understand why we're not as big as America   it's like well look back to the airport if you're  not going to turn not for gigs then I put it like   this if we had Bonnell or Chris Martin would  be huge out there because musically were equal   to those two bands and I'm not and I'm not I'm  not putting Liam down because he's got his own   merits and all that but we're not the kind of band  that engage with an audience if we add members in   the band who engaged with an audience would be  massive saying that when we first did gold there   they did subtitles on American TV because well  we're kind of monkeys and we talk quite fast and   um never was a band and a nation divided by  the same language people would they didn't   know what we were going on about but um I don't  blame is not the right word but one of the one   of the reasons that we didn't quite put the  ball in the net and it's not just thing we   were a bit unprofessional when we went there we  didn't we said they thought we were on a record   label which was used to Mariah Carey and Celine  Dion they never had a rock band from England   and they expected us to go there and play the  game yeah and that was the last thing on our   minds you know we weren't we was like look we'll  we'll come and do whatever we have to do but I   don't really believe I've got to go and see the  guy who owns the Record Shop with fat kids what's   all that about you know what I mean it's either  if you want to buy the record you've gone by I'm   not going to scratch anybody's back because I'm  not expecting anybody to scratch mine the deal is   is we turn up we play you clap we've gone by the  record if you don't we'll go on you know but um   to them it was to the to Epic at the time it was  so alien to them that they couldn't they couldn't   believe that we were not willing to kind of bend  over backwards for them but yeah you can't you've   got to stay true to yourself I think okay well  there's no magazine prestigious Music Magazine   from Britain and when it did it's 550 greatest  British albums of all time you had a bunch of   them in there and you're also at number one and  two is that correct is that what you should be I'm   just gonna jump in there and say there was number  one and two yeah number one and two and 17 and   11 yeah I think so four on the top 20. yeah  four on the top pretty good isn't it the beat   or something that's right indeed yeah well I when  those things always come out you'll always find   that the biggest album of the last two years is  always sits on top of there so you can never quite   judge what they mean I gotta say I was really made  up that the two albums were way over 10 years old   so they've stood the test of time it's not kind  of a it's not part of any fud or anything so I   well okay let's put this way and stand in the  test of time is it a bit of a problem is it that   like once you've had those two albums is it very  difficult to start judging the next five after The   Madness of those two and what they meant I mean  they meant everything even the four what was the   what was the fourth single For the First Time  cigarettes and alcoholism he said don't don't   lose the fourth single and that was the biggest  hit for the biggest one that proved you were wrong   it was just such a big arm every single bit of it  but if I was if I was to sit and listen to you Mr   Dave Fanning I'd never write another song but me  being the way I am it's like I I love the history   of the band and I love those I love those but  the particularly of the first album but I never   I never sit down to write and think what's gone  before I just do it for me and for now you know if   I never write another song I'll go to bed thinking  well I'm easily in the top 10 of all time easy believe I'm gonna write another song if I if I thought  about Champagne Supernova or rock and roll star   because who's better those songs in this and I get  the one thing that gets me is when um you know a   review of an album comes out they'll always say ah  yeah but you know definitely maybe a morning glory   and they've never really kind of set us and it's  like right well who has you know so you're putting   me in the car in the same category as every other  band in England because nobody's better those two   albums right not me not Tom York not Robbie  Williams like YouTube nobody no one so we're   all in the same boat but they never say that when  you know radiohead's album comes out well it's not   subscribe it's not up to the same standards  it Definitely Maybe no man let's all move on foreign music there from high-flying birds and Noah  Gallardo just a few last things know just about   um the whole idea of like we were talking about  modern music and that but what about you you did   say I'm pretty heartfelt when you said basically  that the Arts could do it a few less Posh people let's put it in very simplistic terms here  musical equipment is very very expensive now   uh when I was growing up it was cheap dirty old  equipment and you and and you know um necessity   being the mother of invention and all that now  record labels don't seem to be willing to give   the working class a shout and the working class  can't afford the working class don't have a voice   all the grime kids do uh all the kids um are  into that like that kind of music they've got   a voice young Lads playing guitars not seeing  Tower voice and it's difficult it's difficult   times you can't but then again the other part of  me thinks well there cannot be some guy out there   writing the best songs in the world and he's not  getting a break can't be because the the music   always finds a way no matter what you know we  live in an age where these capture everything you   know and it will always find a way out there but  everything's seen all all the working class music   seems to be these Dreadful singer-songwriters  there's no bands anymore you know what I mean   there's no there's no bands where you see four  guys that's what I'm saying about the people up   to you all the teenagers are looking for something  that they really want they're only finding it in a   band for the 90s called Oasis why yeah well we're  all in our 50s now so that's a bit sad isn't it   but there you go yeah well then I don't know I  don't I don't know I don't know what the solution   is I said I did my bit yeah the thing is though  when you were doing your bidding before the band   you had your enemy and you had your yeah you know  your your sounds a Melody Maker and Smash Hit Soul   Etc and like you know your mother knew  you were doing gigs you were playing gigs   you were successful it meant nothing to her  but then you were on top of the pops yeah oh we're on Thursday oh Jesus I said to  phone everybody you know and as only   then she started to take off seriously  but um yeah I mean yeah we were look   we were extremely fortunate that we were all from  Manchester and we had this great City with this   great musical Heritage so you didn't have to look  far for the inspiration it was all around you you   know yeah and but all those rehearsal rooms now  they're all Flats you know our wine bars so even   now on a very very basic level has argon rehearsal  rooms are expensive you know musical equipment is   expensive um all the old second-hand music shops  are shut down economics dictates everything now   for and every part of society uh and it didn't  but when we were growing up you know there were   there were people who owned disused warehouses  who were just so happy to let you use it you   know what I mean but that's just the way the  world okay well the final question then what   does one other person I want to mention because  you've toured with you seem to get on very well   with the lead singer of you too how's that going  he's good yeah he's all right he's doing his his   book show yeah it's called surrender it's a  one-man isn't it I was the stone away yeah I   couldn't because there was none of it on YouTube  and he didn't really know what to expect there's   none of it anywhere also they take the phones off  you before you yeah you can't see or do anything   yeah but it's astonishing like I mean some  people spend a whole life putting on a one-man   show like that he's just doing that in between  other things there's nothing else going on my   my eldest son Donovan I took the kids to see it  obviously because they're knowing really well and   the bit was up dancing on the table they just  went in and said I think he's finally lost it   and uh but it was great it was it's like  nothing else I'd ever seen before yeah and uh   but yeah he's good he's good they're getting  ready for the thing in Vegas in September yeah   that was going to be great which I'm going  to be going to I can't wait it's my favorite   my favorite period of view too and uh I I actually  sent Edge uh when they did that act on baby thing   in Manchester in 1992 they did a gig with craft  work of Public Enemies for the sellerfield thing   I sent them a setlist and was like might we have  a look at this to set list to die for you know and   um but they're doing good they're doing good yeah  and you know that that one man show thing is very   good that's amazing if you get a chance to go  see it it really is a story about his youth   his father in particular obviously his friends  yeah and a little bit of Pavarotti and that's it would you ever see yourself doing that  no from growing up in Manchester United   playing what's growing up well I say I say  it now I'm about to go on tour and I've got   a couple of other albums lying around not now  but you know if I don't know I said I mean I   don't know I can't see it but you never know  all right well listen May the road rise with   you thanks a million no good mind yourself  good to see you again thank you very much   so that's it from this Noel Gallagher  bank holiday special the new album is   out this week Noah Gallagher's high-flying  Birds it's called Cosmic Skies so from   producer reg Luby myself Dave Fanning good  luck take it easy we leave you with this

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