so Monica lewitzky is really what put drudge on the map and you point out in the show most people think Matt drudge broke that story and he did he did break the Monica piece of it did he not because I'll tell you my experience of this I mean I was not in media I was just a kid um but I was a lawyer and shortly thereafter when I got to Fox News in 2004 Brit Hume told me this personally that the reason Special Report launched the night it did was because drudge broke uh the Monica Lewinsky story and they understood it Fox this was huge and they had no choice but to like fire up an engine the Special Report show that they were not yet ready to put on the air but there you know foxes kind of it was a startup to begin with they're like let's do it you know so they did it and the show is still going strong and now hosted by our friend Brett Bear anyway Matt drudge got that whole thing started and I see in the piece Michael isakov who writes for Newsweek who actually had the story but was told by his publisher Newsweek to hold it he's kind of like he didn't really break it you know I broke the piece about being investigated by the justice department for lot you know but it really was a Matt drudge thing well Matt drudge pushed it into the open in a way that Newsweek was hesitant to do there were lots of details swirling around at this time um and yeah in the finer points isakov had quite a few Scoops and he's a fantastic reporter now at Yahoo news um but the the point with with drudge was that drudge made this story impossible to ignore there was no more hey should we hold this story should we check it everyone had to run after the story television shows had to be launched you know it thrust the ships to War as it were um in a way that U might not have happened in such an Abrupt way it could have been a little drip drip leakier we don't we don't exactly know but what it certainly did um was put Legacy news organizations on their toes and they realize in the internet age if we don't break this somebody else will and I and I think it pushed us into a digital era that we were in a different Universe before drudge broke this and for that you could title the biography of that drudge GameChanger I mean you really could it could just be called Game Changer because he really has been here's isakov from the podcast um this is a clip from episode two find Matt drudge where isakov talks about it all take a listen you had the scoop and why was it not run why was it delayed basically they were nervous I mean the editors you know this was like they wanted to know everything but like well wait a second like you know can we really report that Clinton you know has been having an affair with an intern the story was going to come out it's question of how and when right but the fundamentals were already there it was just too explosive they couldn't handle it was too big to report well done so I mean kudos to him because he did do great reporting on it it was just Newsweek that didn't that didn't have the appetite and so that's the thing about drudge cuz he puts up the red siren above the drudgery report and everyone in news is like holy drudge has got the siren up we all have to pay attention and one day uh he did that involving yours truly and this would lead to my encounter with him so it was 2013 and uh my son Thatcher had just been born in July and I had struck a deal with Roger ALS to when I returned from maternity leave join the Fox News Prime Time and take over the 9:00 p.m. spot and it was to be kept secret I certainly wasn't going to blab it to anyone I didn't want to screw up my own career across my boss in that way and um I was online one day in our little townhouse we had and boom there was the news on The Drudge Report and I remember like holy oh my God like how does he know because I knew and Roger knew and almost nobody else knew and uh it saids something like Megan to Prime Time and I never found out but shortly thereafter at some it must have been you know between 13 and 17 because that's when I left Fox I saw Matt Matt drudge in The Green Room outside of Sean Hannity Studio on a night he he I think he was going on Hannity and uh I said Matt drudge like how you doing I said someday you're G to have to tell me who told you that news and he said I promise you someday I will tell you and that then I haven't seen him again so I'm really kind of hoping that Som it was like maybe after the person dies he didn't tell me what the condition would be but he felt like he was in a position to actually at some point share it with me which I'd love to know if he gets back to me you know I'll I'll let you know but anyway uh it's just another Testament of how he gets stuff no one has yeah he he is remarkable at that and I I think Chris in one of the episodes I believe it talks about how Trump secretly would have things to him after telling people you know don't don't leak this anywhere keep this secret but when the doors are shut he would have someone give it give it over to Drudge and part two Curry favor uh with with someone he viewed as so influential who which is Matt drudge and which is why uh from the very beginning of his campaign as Chris mentioned they try to court drudge as a supporter and it certainly worked in the beginning and he would send drudge personal Notes too oh I'm sorry Trump would write personal notes to Drudge uh he would have the Drudge Report yeah I got one myself it's on my office desk here uh but he would print The Drudge Report and then write little notes like great story drudge you know I mean the the personal um attempt was was very real in going after him what Donald Trump was sending me when I was in the prime time of fox almost invariably were stories about himself in the newspaper that he would then sign and just mail him to me like okay thank you and but he would call me also to compliment various news segments he had seen on The Kelly File I have one from Trump that says Chris you're a bad reporter signed Donald Trump with love um okay can we just spend one second because we're talking about Monica Lewinsky and the in the whole Bill Clinton affair she's actually back in the news do you guys see this I don't know yeah I don't if you've seen this but she just got the L treatment she's got this huge spread in L magazine as like the next supermodel and these young people over on Tik Tok Etc are reacting to her as though she is a hero she's mod she's modeling Reformation clothing and they the Young Folks today are so incredibly excited about Monica Lewinsky who for the young people watching this show is famous or I do believe the word is Infamous for having an affair with a married man who happened to be the president of of the United States whom she admitted to aggressively courting by showing him her thong and bragged about her quote presidential knee pads before she had even met him um so she was excited to go into the White House and get it on with the all too willing sitting president of the United States she was outed one thing led to another he lied about it under oath and he was impeached but not convicted similar to Trump and um her name became synonymous with that's what happened I mean that's all she gave him they didn't have actual conventional sex and to get a Linsky became synonymous with getting a which was embarrassing I'm sure for her but now she's resurfacing as like the new heroine to the young folks today I'll give you a a sample of uh one of these ticktockers I don't know 19 or 20 whatever you guys think is better I am not going to lie I had zero idea who this woman was so I had to do a little bit of research and this is Monica Lewinsky and she's pretty iconic so she is the woman that Bill Clinton had an affair with the woman where Hillary Clinton got cheated on but Reformation basically partnered with Monica Lewinsky and voter.org to bring awareness with voting for the election for 20124 so this collab is truly iconic the fact that she is promoting voting well she had a literal affair with Bill Clinton icon Legend like get that bag but can we take a moment for the red dress the red tights like I know Hillary Clinton is shaking in her boots right now like I know Bill Clinton is peeping like he's lurking he's like oh that's Monica Lewinsky she looking absolutely fire Pooky oh my God I'm sorry I'm going to be honest I prefer my female Heroes to have actually done something heroic for womenkind I okay I'm glad Monica Lewinsky is doing okay but she's not it Jamie thoughts well first of all the language just makes me feel old collab and get that bag I mean this this is a this is a different era I guess I am I am getting older I don't know to say to that uh it's so bizarre that that Monica Linsky is being uh brought out again so long you know so so many years later my only thought is that hopefully that bodes well for the show if people are figuring out about Monica litsky maybe uh drudge uh podcast 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