If the Cleveland Browns had to win ONE GAME, would you rather have DTR or Tyler Huntley at QB?

Published: Aug 20, 2024 Duration: 00:12:06 Category: News & Politics

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Jason, we talked about this on yesterday's show that the Browns are at least willing to listen to trade offers for DTR. That was from Zach Jackson of the athletic. It was our number one most viewed clip yesterday. It blew up. Uh, nearly 20,000 views on that clip alone on Twitter, the DTR trade talk even on Twitter exploded like wildfire. And I think it's worth mentioning before we dive into the actual question of this topic. It's every GM and this includes Andrew Berry. It's their job to listen. If some team wants to call and offer them a trade, like it's GM malpractice not to at least see what's out there for any kind of player. Right? Earl. And if a team wants to call the Browns about DTR, it would be silly for Andrew Barry not to answer the phone. None of us yesterday were saying, hey, we should trade DTR. We're all just saying if the right deal comes across, you'd be silly not to listen. So I just wanna make sure that is on the record and clear because all three of us talked about it yesterday. The question today though is Jason and I'll start with you. We'll go Earl next. If you had to win one game in 2024 this season and your two choices to play quarterback or DTR or Tyler H, the two quarterbacks, the Browns are believably ch choosing between for their quarterback three spot. Who do you think gives the Browns the best chance to win one game this year? Huntley or DTR? This makes me be a hypocrite and I don't like doing that, but if I had to pick one game to win right now, I would probably take Tyler Huntley, but I still like DTR on the, in a long term view and the just the overall quarterback ability, I still like DTR Huntley obviously has more experience though. He's been around a little bit more, somehow made a pro bowl. I still don't understand how that happened. II, I, seriously, that just totally baffles me but he's, he's a veteran who's, who knows different systems who has had success in different systems. So I guess you would lean him, but I really like DTR and I don't want to turn this into an Austin Watkins type thing of how can you do this to Austin Watkins? You have to find a place on this team for Austin Watkins, which was somehow became a thing toward the end of last year. I don't wanna make it that he's a young quarterback, put his hand up. Guilty. Guilty. I wa I really wasn't calling you out. It wasn't just you, there was a lot of people who felt that way and I don't want to turn it into that, but I do really like him long term and I just think that we just saw, we've seen enough glimpses to know, listen, he was 1/5 round quarterback, he's a project, you know, that going in, but I, he hasn't done anything to me to make you say it's time to give up and move on from him other than some of the injury concerns. So, and if you're playing of the year to year game and this is your third quarterback, you know, I can see why, I guess they would side with Tyler Hunting, but I'm with Bernie. We had Bernie in yesterday and Bernie was really high on Dorian and I kinda am as well. So, you know, if this comes to pass and they wind up moving him for kind of a, a mid round to late round pick, that's not a ton of value and I don't think you're gonna get more than that for him. I'm gonna be disappointed. So it's kind of a conflicted answer. Yeah, I mean, and the word is a G Bush DT, a listen, I, I hear what Jason is saying and when, you know, when, when we, I was talking about this, I thought about it like Huntley for whatever reason. God knows how one, you know, made it to the pro bowl. And when you seen him play in those spot stores starts in Baltimore, when Lamar, uh, was hurt, you see him be able to make the ball score some touchdowns and make and move the ball score some touchdowns and make some plays. But at the end of the day when you just take away the, the, the experience, I mean, DTR is just a better football player and we've seen DTR kind of grow up in front of our face, uh, uh in, in front of our face, in my opinion, before he got hurt, he just plays with a certain confidence and swag when he knows exactly what he's doing. He has a strong arm. He seems to be able to make some, uh, right decisions more often than not like this dude like, yeah, fifth round pick, but he has a lot of potential and he's played a lot of football and a, and a pro style offense and I got a roll with that. I got a roll with the youth. Uh, that's a better player out over the experience. II, I just think he's better than him. So, so we got one answer for DTR. We got one answer for Huntley, which grudging Lee for Hunt, I'm gonna be the tiebreaker and we gotta follow up in this and we'll read the results at the end. I, I bet you would say 85% of the chat is gonna say DTR and if it was, the question was for half a season, who would you rather fill in for half a season? I would take TT R I would and I like DTR, I think he has a chance to be a decade long, solid, legitimate backup quarterback based on his arm strength, his athleticism, he seems to kind of get a good grasp of an offense in a pretty quick time span. But for one game in 2024 this year, I think I have to roll with Huntley and I went back and looked, I, I'm throwing the Baltimore game out the window last year. Like I don't put any stock into that whatsoever against Pittsburgh. They won that game 1310. Do you remember his numbers from that game? I, I didn't, I'll be honest. No, I remember thinking he played relatively decently. It was a low scoring game. I felt like he had a late drive. He was 24. No, he's right on because I was gonna say, I don't remember the numbers. I remember he managed the game like he, he didn't blow it. That's what I remember. He was 24 or 43 for 100 and 65 yards, one interception, no touchdowns and a 55 quarterback rating. Not great against Denver. Do you remember his stats against Denver? No, but I remember the touchdown drive that, that and then he got knocked out. So those were both his last two drives. They did almost nothing in the first half. His overall game stats 14 to 29. So 47% completion percentage, 100 34 yards, one touchdown, no picks. There was a bunch of drops in that game. So numbers look a little worse than they actually were. DTRs put up huge numbers in the preseason when he's had a chance to play in the NFL in a regular season game. Now, granted, it's 2.5 games Baltimore game. I put no real stock into it. Ha it hasn't matched the preseason hype of DTR. So for one game this year, just one game, I'm gonna roll with Huntley because I think it's harder to confuse a guy who's played in more meaningful football games than DTR has at that level. And for stability, I take Huntley's stability and higher floor and lower ceiling for one game that I would take with DTR who certainly has a higher ceiling but also has a lower floor if this was an eight game sample. And you said, hey, Deshaun, for whatever reason, isn't gonna play the back half of the season, eight games. Who are you taking? I'm wrong with DTR 100 100 times, but for one game I throw with Tyler, you know what I just thought about when you mentioned that game and DTR have receivers dropping the ball, like what if and this will never happen like, but what if they can change how they count stats, right? Like if, however, the NFL defines a drop, like if a receiver drops a ball, it doesn't count as in completion against the quarterback. And so then when we have these arguments about Deshaun Watson and others, you know, it'd be straight. Ok, completion, a completion or will this receiver dropped this many balls? That's almost like run average in baseball. Do you remember? I don't remember if it was Pittsburgh or Denver, but he threw a couple because he has a cannon and it was, I remember the one to in joke, it was against Pittsburgh. I'm seeing it in my head. It was a five yard stop and he threw it like a 10,000 mile an hour fastball and it counts the drop because it hit him in the hand. But objectively that's an uncatchable. Do you remember the play? I know exactly because I remember at the time thinking it was Scott Bala and necessary roughness. I remember like, did you ever see that movie? We threw it to Featherstone and he couldn't catch. So he just rammed it right into his face mask. That's kind of what that throw looked like. I was gonna ram it right into it. Not all drops are equal, but I would like to see if you, the NFL could figure out catchable passes versus uncatchable passes and certain accuracy. I remember like when the Eagles played in the Super Bowl and mcnabb threw that 10 yard pass to, to and to turned it into a long touchdown and mcnab got credited for this long ass. In reality, you threw a 10 yard pass. Tod the rest, a little jet sweep where you just pitch it cool if you could find a way to play with the stats like that, it just, when you say that it made me think about that half a season, would you change your answer to DTR? But for one game or how close of a decision was it for you? It's, it's real close, I guess. Like, I'm like, I'm a little biased when it comes to DTR. You got and II, I really like him as a player. I, I just think he's a great athlete with and he's a highly intelligent quarter. But, but I mean, Huntley made a pro bowl even though me and Jason still can't figure out how you weren't impressed with his two touchdown passes that season. I appreciate two touchdowns, three intercessions that year. If DTR and MJ Emerson were both drowning, which one are you saving? MJ would never drown. That's an impossible question to ask. I mean, I got two hands so I gotta pull both my boys up. Let me ask you all this, if it does come to a situation, we hope it doesn't. But if it does come to a situation where the Browns have to start either DTR or Huntley, how confident would you feel going into that game, you both give the Browns a chance to win. Do you think a good enough shot to, you know why I would? And this is no like hometown bias, the Cleveland Browns led by Kevin Stefanski just showed me so much like tenacity last year. It just showed me this will to like overcome adversity and to never quit. And I find it hard to believe that the Cleveland Browns are gonna find themselves in that same situation to where you have to start three or four quarterbacks again. But if they did, you know, they already got a track record of showing like, you know what we built, we built for this, we can overcome adversity. We hope it doesn't come down to that. But this team has clearly bought into Kevin Stefanski leadership. They believe that overall as a unit, they're good enough to beat anybody with damn near anybody playing quarterback. And so, you know, I wouldn't, I would be more confident in that situation this season than I was last year. The reality is if they had to start a game with either one of those guys, they would not be favored in any game except maybe what, 56 games, maybe I'm trying to think at the bottom of the NFL. They, they're not gonna schedule is tough. They're not gonna, obviously, you're assuming that the quarterback on the other side is healthy. But if you, if, if, uh, do they have a chance to win. Of course, it's the NFL, everybody has a chance to win. Would I pick them to win? It be match up based on that? And it would be depending on who the opponent is, but in terms of Vegas and lines, there's only a handful of teams that they would be favored against if those guys were starting. I feel, I, I don't think they'd be favored. I'd feel good enough about both those guys giving the Browns a chance to win. There are a lot of backup and third string quarterbacks in football where they're starting. It just chocolate up as an L I mean, we saw PJ Walker beat the 49er. I was just about to say, I wish I knew I could remember off the top of my head. How big of an underdog we were going into that game, the San Francisco game. Oh, I know somehow Mike lost a lot of money on that game. It's your fault and he blames me, it's your fault. But like to your point, I mean, you gotta check the match ups, the weather like there's so many different elements that goes into it. And plus any given Sunday in the NFL is legit like anybody can get, got any given week before we came down here. I was watching this video of Ron Brown. Uh the day that the Miami debuted the five touchdowns, I saw that clip and it was crazy because that was one of the years New England was really, really good and they got, got that day so it can happen. Did we, did you ever tell a story of the area? You're allowed to tell a story? We're not gonna talk about that because it was not with uh, our sponsor sports book. So we're not gonna, we'll say it for our time. It's our time story.

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