Final 2020 Presidential Debate Between Donald Trump, Joe Biden | NBC News

>> HEIDI SO FASCINATING TO HEAR HER THOUGHTS ON THE TOUGH DECISION JUST TO MAKE WHAT SHE'S WATCHING FOR TONIGHT HEIDI THANK YOU. ♪ >> TONIGHT THE FINAL FACEOFF BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND JOE BIDEN IS WHERE SENATORS ARE NOT GOING ANSWER THE JUST AS WE'RE ACTUALLY LEFT BOTH CANDIDATES MAKE THEIR CLOSING ARGUMENTS WITH JUST 12 DAYS TO GO THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ♪ >> ELECTION IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY CHOICE IS CLEAR AS IT EVER IMAGINED. THE LAST BIG EVENT OF THE 2020 CAMPAIGN IS ABOUT TO THE GAME. ♪ >> WELCOME TO NBC NEWS A SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE ♪ >> FINAL 2020 PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES. AN NBC NEWS CHECK TIME WE'RE COUNTING DOWN. ♪ THE MINUTES TO THE START OF TONIGHT'S DEBATE MODERATED OUR OWN ABC NEWS COLLEAGUE, CHRISTIAN WALKER LIVE FROM BELMONT UNIVERSITY IN NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE. THIS IS ACTUALLY THE SECOND PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE GOING ON AS HOST OF TONIGHT, WE'RE JUST A WEEK AND A HALF'S FROM ELECTION DAY LET'S BE CLEAR THE PRESIDENT'S UNPREDICTABLE BEHAVIOR MEANS WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THAT STAGE TONIGHT. HE IS TRAILING IN THE POLLS. HE KNOWS THAT HE'S ACTING THAT WAY STATE HE HANDILY WON IN 2016 OR SUDDENLY ♪ COMPETITIVE. INCLUDING KANSAS AND TEXAS MORE THAN 40 MILLION BALLOTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN CAST MILLIONS MORE PEOPLE ARE VOTING EVERY DAY BOTTOM LINE. TONIGHT REPRESENTS THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN'S LAST BEST CHANCE TO TRY TO CHANGE THE TRAJECTORY OF THIS RACE AND WE KNOW ♪ THE LAST DEBATE DIDN'T CHANGE THE TRAJECTORY OF THE POLLS. DUE TO HIS DEBACLE OF A PERFORMANCE. ♪ AND SURE YOU IN FACT LET PEOPLE KNOW IS WHERE SENATOR RUSH. I'M NOT GOING TO ANSWER THE QUESTION DID THAT BECAUSE US JUST AS RADICAL LEFT FOR YOU WHO IS ON YOUR LIST JOE THIS JUST AS I THINK THIS TO GIVE A LITANY OF ENDED THIS SEGMENT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE SECOND ♪ SEGMENT THAT WAS REALLY DOCTOR >> BOTH CANDIDATES IN THEIR OWN WAYS HAVE MADE IT CLEAR THEY KNOW FULL WELL HOW IMPORTANT TONIGHT WILL BE VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS BEEN OFF THE TRAIL THIS ENTIRE WEEK. CARING FOR THE DEBATE AND KEEPING A LOW PROFILE. THE PRESIDENT ON THE OTHER TRY TO FLOOD THE ZONE WITH RALLIES INTERVIEWS AND OTHER MEDIA IN AN ATTEMPT TO CONVINCE VOTERS THAT BIDEN IS ♪ UNQUOTE CRIMINAL SHOULD WE QUOTE IN JAIL. >> HE'S LEAN ON HIS ATTORNEY GENERAL TO ANNOUNCE AN INVESTIGATION AND AGAIN NOBODY STRUCTURE TO INVESTIGATE WHAT STOKING AN ANTI MEDIA NARRATIVE TODAY RELEASING FOOTAGE FROM A CONTENTIOUS 60 MINUTES INTERVIEW. AS AN EFFORT TO I GUESS SPITE. CBS MONTHS AND THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS EXPECTED TO BRING TO THE DEBATE TONIGHT, A FORMER BUSINESS PARTNER OF HUNTER BIDEN'S IN A CONTINUED EFFORT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO AND UNVERIFIED STORY INVOLVING HUNTER BIDEN'S EMAILS AND RUDY GIULIANI'S ROLE IN IT TO MANY POLITICAL OBSERVERS ON THIS BEHAVIOR HEADING INTO NIGHT SIGNALS AN INCREASING SENSE OF DESPERATION FOR ♪ THIS PRESIDENT. THAT AGAIN, HE'S BEHAVING ALMOST IDENTICAL TO HOW HE BEHAVED IN OCTOBER OF 2016. SO LET'S START WITH 2 OF MY ABC NEWS COLLEAGUE ON THE GRAND NATIONAL AT THE DEBATE SITE THE ISLANDS AND HER HAS THE LATEST FROM THE PRESIDENT AND HIS CAMPAIGN ALITALIA HAS BEEN FOLLOWING THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN AND PETER I'LL START WITH YOU. THE PRESIDENT LOOK LET'S LET'S BE REALISTIC I I KNOW YOU HAVE AIDS THAT WILL TELL YOU THAT THE PRESENT WE HOPE THE PRESIDENT DOES WE ALL HAVE HEARD FROM FOLKS FROM THE REPUBLICAN THEY HOPE THE PRESIDENT DOES THAT. >> NONE OF THEM CAN GUARANTEE THAT THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO DO WHAT THEY CLAIM THAT THEY WANT HIM TO DO TONIGHT. I GUESS THE THE EXPLANATION IS WHY IS WHY IS THIS CAMPAIGN JUST SORT OF LETTING TRUMP SCORCHED EARTH IS A WAY AROUND THIS CAMPAIGN THESE LAST 48 HOURS. WE'LL TALK YOU'RE RIGHT. I MEAN DONALD TRUMP IS THE WILD CARD. HE'S BEEN THE WILDCARD AND HE WILL REMAIN THAT WAY IT'S OBVIOUS THAT NOBODY CAN SORT OF HARNESS AND YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM AIDES RIGHT NOW THEY TELL YOU THE THINGS THEY EXPECT YOU. THE EXPECT THEM TO SAY SAYING THAT THEY WANTED TO BE A LITTLE BIT LIGHTER LESS COMBATIVE MORE CHARISMATIC SMILE ON OCCASION SORT EMBRACED AUDIENCE THAT'S WATCHING TONIGHT. YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT WE SAID THE SAME THING THAT TOLD US THAT BEFORE THE TOWN HALL THE PRESIDENT HELD WITH OUR COLLEAGUE SAVANNAH GUTHRIE ABOUT A WEEK AGO, YOU KNOW HOW THAT WHEN THE PRESIDENT ABOUT IT AND THAT ONE AS WELL TO TALK ABOUT THE DESPERATION SOME OF THESE LAST MINUTE EFFORTS BY THIS CAMPAIGN REVEALING THE REAL CONCERNS THEY HAVE ABOUT NOT JUST THE PUBLIC POLLING, BUT INTERNAL POLLING THAT SHOWS THAT THEY'RE TRAILING NOT JUST NATIONALLY BUT IN SOME OF THOSE KEY SWING STATES. YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN'S FORMER BUSINESS PARTNER WE'RE NOW HEARING FROM THE POOL. THE TEAM REPORTERS TRAVELING WITH THE PRESIDENT THAT WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MINUTES THEY'RE GOING TO BRING A QUOTE SECRET GAS TO SEE REPORTERS AT THE HOTEL WITH HER WEIGHT AHEAD OF THIS DEBATE, IT SOUNDS FAMILIAR REMEMBER THAT 2016 WHEN THEY BROUGHT BILL CLINTON'S ACCUSERS TO SEE REPORTERS IN THAT LAST MINUTE SOME THAT AROUND THE BOTTOM LINE IS NONE OF THAT STUFF MATTERS WHAT MATTERS IS WHAT HAPPENS ON STAGE THE CAMPAIGN DOES BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME VOTERS THAT ARE STILL UNCONVINCED BY JOE BIDEN THEY HOPE THE DONALD TRUMP DOES ALLOW BIND TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE TALKING TONIGHT IS GOING TO GET THOSE ADOPTED MINUTES OF THE PRESIDENT PLAYS BY THE RULES AND THEY HOPE THAT THOSE MINUTES MAY. I GUESS IN SOME WAY OFF FOR SOME SHORTCOMINGS IN BIDEN IS NOT THAT SHARPER CAN'T REALLY PUT TOGETHER A CLEAR AND COGENT THOUGHT ABOUT WHY HE IS BEST ON THE ECONOMY ON COVID AMONG OTHER TOPICS NOW THE MOST IMPORTANT LINE YOU JUST SAID THEIR THEATER IS IF THE PRESIDENT ABIDES BY THE RULES. >> THAT IS THE CABBIE OUT AND THE ASTERISK AND THE FOOTNOTE WHATEVER YOU WANT HE IS THAT WE HAVE TO PUT TO ALL OF THIS DEBATE ANALYSIS. PETER ALEXANDER. THANK YOU SIR, ALAN TALLY. THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN NUMBER ONE. HOW DO THEY DO THEY HAVE A PLAN AND HOW TO DEAL WITH HUNTER BIDEN BUSINESS. AND NUMBER 2 WHAT IS THEIR GOAL FOR TONIGHT DO THEY THINK THEY CAN GO ON OFFENSE ARE THEY JUST GOING TO DO NO HARM. >> I GUESS I'LL TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS IN ORDER WHICH IS ON THE HUNTER BIDEN FRONT TRUMP HAS DONE SO MUCH TELEGRAPHING OF WHAT HE'S PLANNING TO TALK ABOUT THE BIDEN TEAM OVER THE COURSE OF THEIR PREP HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIGURE OUT THE EXACT WAY THAT THEY WANT TO DEAL WITH THIS AND IT'S GOING TO MIRROR SOMETHING THAT WE SAW THE FIRST DEBATE STAGE AFTER PRESIDENT TRUMP WENT AFTER JOE BIDEN'S SON HUNTER WHICH IS TRYING TO MAKE THE CASE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP SEEMS MORE FOCUSED ON JOE BIDEN'S FAMILY AND THE FATE OF AMERICAN FAMILIES EFFECTIVELY TRYING TO DEFEND HIS SON AND THEN ALSO TRY TO PIVOT AWAY FROM THIS AND GET BACK TO THE CENTRAL MESSAGE THAT JOE BIDEN IS THERE TO DELIVER ON THE STAGE IN TERMS OF THE APPROACH TO TONIGHT OBVIOUSLY FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP YOU SAID THIS IS A CHANCE FOR HIM TO SHAKE UP THE RACE FOR JOE BIDEN HE WANTS THINGS TO REMAIN A STEADY AS THEY HAVE BEEN WE'VE SEEN THE POLLING IT SHOWS HIM STEADILY AHEAD AT THE SAME TIME THOUGH HIS CAMPAIGN IS DOING A LOT OF WORK TO TRY TO ESCAPE THE 2016 REDOX THAT HAS BEEN IN THE MINDS OF BOTH DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST AND DEMOCRATIC VOTERS FOR THE LAST 4 YEARS AND SO THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO COMBAT COMPLACENCY BOTH IN MEMOS TO SUPPORTERS BUT ALSO I IMAGINE THAT SOMETHING THAT JOE BIDEN IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT ON THIS STAGE BECAUSE WHILE THEY PUT A LOT OF MONEY AND RESOURCES INTO BUILDING A COALITION THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT COALITION GETS OUT TO VOTE SO IN TERMS OF THE APPROACH ON THE DEBATE STAGE JOE BIDEN IS GOING TO REALLY TRY TO USE THOSE 2 MINUTES THAT HE HAS FREE OF PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP AT LEAST THEORETICALLY TO MAKE HIS PITCH TO AMERICAN VOTERS AND THEN WE'LL SEE IF IT DEVOLVES ANYWHERE FROM THERE I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE KEY POINT AND THEN IN TERMS OF MOVING VOTERS, I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY VOTED THEY STILL FEEL LIKE THEY WANT TO SEE THESE DEBATES THOUGH PARTLY BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE VOTERS ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE THEY THINK THAT THIS ONLY FURTHER ELUCIDATES THE CONTRAST AND THEY'RE REALLY HOPING THAT IT ALSO LENDS TO THE BATTLE AGAINST COMPLACENCY AND THAT THEY THINK THAT THE MORE PEOPLE WHO SEE THIS THE MORE PEOPLE WILL TURN OUT TO VOTE THEY HOPE IT'S FOR JOE BIDEN. >> ALITALIA BEFORE THAT LEAGUE'S AND ARE GETTING US ON THE GROUND IN NASHVILLE. THANK YOU BOTH AND AS I SAID THE LAST DEBATE DESPITE A LOT OF PREDICTIONS BY A LOT SAYING WELL NOTHING REALLY IS GOING PACK THIS RACE. WELL GUESS WHAT THAT FIRST DEBATE HAD A NOTICEABLE IMPACT ON THE POLLS. >> IN ♪ >> FACT LET'S GO TO STEVE CARJACKING AT THE BIG BOARD AND STATE. LOOK I THINK YOU AND I SAID RIGHT BEFORE THAT FIRST OF A LOOK AT. >> YOU KNOW THE POLLS INDICATED PEOPLE WORK WE'RE ALREADY MADE UP THEIR MIND THERE WERE SO FEW UNDECIDED AND SO WE HAVE A LOT OF SKEPTICISM THAT ONE DEBATE COULD MOVE THINGS IN BUT GUESS WHAT ONE A MOVE THINKS IT ABSOLUTELY DID CHECK THIS OUT THIS IS A BEFORE AND AFTER LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED THIS IS THE DAY OF THAT DEBATE SEPTEMBER 29TH HERE THIS WAS THE NATIONAL POLL AVERAGE JOE BIDEN LED BY 6.1 POINTS ON AVERAGE OVER DONALD TRUMP ONE WEEK LATER AFTER THAT DEBATE. LOOK AT THAT CHANGE. SO A LITTLE SMALL PRINT THERE. BUT BASICALLY WAS 10 POINTS, 51.6 41.9 FROM 6.1 FOR BIDEN TO 9.7 ON AVERAGE THAT WAS MOVEMENT OF 3.6 POINTS AND THAT IS IN THIS RACE IN THIS PRESIDENCY THAT SEISMIC. THIS IS THE PRESIDENT'S APPROVAL RATING IS LIVE WITHIN LIKE A 10 POINT RANGE AND YOU GOT ALMOST 4 POINTS OF MOVEMENT IN THE HORSE RACE IN ONE WEEK. AFTER THAT DEBATE THAT SEISMIC MOVEMENT TRUMP HAS EATEN INTO SOME OF THAT LEAD THAT BIDEN BUILT AFTER THAT SINCE THEN BUT NOT ALL OF IT. THE MARGIN IS STILL IN THE NATIONAL POLLING AVERAGE ♪ NOW HIGHER THAN 6.1 SUBSTANTIALLY SO. AND WE SAW THIS THIS WASN'T JUST IN THE NATIONAL POLLS. IT SEEMS AS IF WE SAW. >> THIS SCENE IN PACKED UP AND DOWN THE BALLOT. I MEAN YOU TELL ME STEPHEN YOU SEEN A GOOD NEWS REPUBLICAN PAUL EVEN ON THE DISTRICT LEVEL IN QUITE SOME TIME THOUGH, AND ESPECIALLY NOT ON THE DISTRICT LEVEL IN FACT SOMETIMES YOU SEE SOME OF THE DISTRICT'S TOUGH THAT'S COMING AFTER THESE HOUSE DISTRICTS, YOU SAY. >> HOW COULD ONLY BE BETWEEN 6, 9, THAT BIDEN LEAD NATIONALLY, BUT NO YOU LOOK AT THE BATTLEGROUND STATES YOU LOOK AT THE NATIONAL A PICTURE YOU SEE BIDEN LEADS ON BOTH I WOULD SAY THE BATTLE GRAHAM STATE PICTURE LOOKS CLOSER THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE PART OF THAT'S TO BE EXPECTED. TRUMP HAS THAT ELECTORAL COLLEGE ADVANTAGE THAT WE KNOW ABOUT. BUT IT ALL POINTS TO THE SAME THING TRUMP IS BEHIND COMING INTO THIS LAST DEBATE YOU HAVEN'T HAD AN INCUMBENT BEHIND LIKE THIS. THIS CLOSE TO THE ELECTION SINCE THE LAST THING COME IN THE LAST BUSH 92. >> LET ME ASK YOU THIS COURT ACTED VERY QUICK WHICH IN THE YEARS THAT WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE DEBATES. HAVE SECOND DEBATES OR 3RD DEBATES, WHATEVER IT IS IN THIS CASE, THIS IS THE SECOND AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE 3RD. HAD AS MOVED A RACE. WE'VE HAD ONE DEBATE MOVED THE RACE IN 1980, BUT THEY LAND A SINGULAR DEBATE THERE BETWEEN REAGAN AND CARTER. ANY EVIDENCE THAT THE SECOND OR 3RD DEBATES, MOVE NUMBERS AS MUCH AS THE FIRST DEBATE, SO YOU CAN BE THE JUDGE THAT THE LAST 2 ELECTIONS WE DID HAVE LEE DEBATES, ROUGHLY THIS TIME 2016. THIS WAS THE NATIONAL POLLING AVERAGE IN THE DAY OF THE FINAL CLINTON-TRUMP DEBATE. AND OF COURSE THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED TRUMP ENDED UP PICKING UP GROUND FROM THAT DEBATE CLINTON LOSING A LITTLE BIT KIND OF TREADING WATER NOW WAS IT THE DEBATE WAS IT CALL ME CALL ME REMEMBER TRUMP WAS ALREADY A BIT ON THE UPSWING BECAUSE HE BOTTOMED OUT FROM THE ACCESS HOLLYWOOD TAPE. TRUMP DID GAIN 4 POINTS AFTER THAT DEBATE AND THEN BY THE WAY IN 2012 COMING INTO THAT FINAL DEBATE THAT WAS THIS DAY IN 2012. ROMNEY HAD A 0.4 POINT LEAD IN THE NATIONAL POLLING AVERAGE OF COURSE OBAMA ENDED UP WINNING BY 4 NOW AGAIN WAS THAT THE DEBATE MEMBER THAT WAS THAT CANDY CROWLEY IT WAS IN THAT DEBATE HURRICANE SANDY CAME AT THE END OF THAT CAN MEAN THERE WERE SOME OTHER EVENTS TOO. BUT WE DID SEE BOTTOM LINE THE LAST 2 ELECTIONS ABOUT 4 POINTS A MOVEMENT TOWARD THE WINNER IN THE FINAL 2 WEEKS BY THE WAY HURRICANE SANDY AND COMEY THEY'RE BOTH REMINDERS. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST 10 DAYS. BUT WE HAVE NOT HIT THE LAST 10 DAYS OF THIS RACE, THOSE WERE UNFORESEEN EVENTS HIS ARE FRIEND TOM BROKAW LIKE TO SAY YOU OPPOSE THE UNFORESEEN WILL OCCUR THAT IS A REMINDER THAT WORSE THERE IS SOME UNFORESEEN THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST HAPPENED IN THE LAST 10 DAYS. WE OUGHT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT NOW STATE CRACKING. THANK YOU SIR, THANKS. JOIN ME NOW. CASEY ON NBC'S CAPITAL CORRESPONDENT HOST OF WAY TOO EARLY ON MSNBC JOSHUA JOHNSON, THE HOST OF THE WEEK. >> AN MSNBC AND A PRESIDENTIAL HISTORIAN IS WITH US AS USUAL. NBC NEWS IS PRESIDENTIAL HISTORIAN MICHAEL BESCHLOSS WELCOME TO YOU ALL. >> KATE CASEY HUNT AS WE WERE TALKING EARLIER TODAY. THERE IS A THERE IS A LOT ABOUT TONIGHT'S DEBATE PRE-DEBATE ANTICS BY TEAM TRUMP THAT FEELS VERY FAMILIAR. FROM 4 YEARS AGO. >> THERE IS A LOT ABOUT OF THAT CHUCK IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE TRYING TO OPEN THAT BOX THAT THEY PUT IT PUT UP ON THAT SHELF FOR THIS PERIOD OF TIME FROM 2016 WHEN IT WHEN IT ENDED UP WORKING AND THEY'RE GOING TO TRY AND RUN ALL THOSE GREATEST HITS AGAIN I THINK THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GOING TO WORK IT'S IT'S HARD TO EVEN WALK THROUGH ALL OF THE DETAILS OF THE ALLEGATIONS THAT ARE SWIRLING AROUND A HUNTER BIDEN ON VERIFIED MANY NATIONAL SECURITY EXPERTS SAYING THEY HAVE ALL THE HALLMARKS OF A RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN OUR COLLEAGUES WHO COVER DIS INFORMATION JUST WROTE A LARGE STORY ABOUT THERE ARE CONSPIRACY THEORIES ON THE INTERNET THAT ARE REMINISCENT OF THAT PIZZA GATE THEORY THAT PLAGUED CLINTON AT THE END AGAIN, THESE BASELESS CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS ONE OF THE GUESTS THEY'RE BRINGING TO TRY AND DO THIS TO HUNTER BIDEN AT THE DEBATE AND YOU KNOW IT'S CLEAR BIDEN'S CAMPAIGN REALIZES THAT THIS IS IT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH THAT JOE BIDEN ON AND YOU SAW HOW EMOTIONAL HE BECAME A ABOUT HIS SON ON THE DEBATE STAGE, BUT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO SAW THOSE MOMENTS WHEN HE WAS STEPPING UP AND DEFENDING HIS SON AS RELATE ABUL MOMENTS, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE IN THE COUNTRY OF EVERY POLITICAL STRIPE WHO HAVE GRAPPLED WITH THE PERSONAL CHALLENGES THAT HUNTER BIDEN HAS FACED IN HIS LIFE AND I THINK THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THEY'RE IT WHETHER THIS TOPIC IS GOING TO BE ELEVATED THE STAGE TONIGHT. I SUPPOSE WE'LL SEE BUT IT DOES HAVE ALL THE HALLMARKS OF A CANDIDATE WHO KNOWS HE'S LOSING IT IF YOU'RE NOT USING YOU DON'T NECESSARILY DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS TRUCK. LOOK AT I WANT TO JUST FOR FOLKS UNDERSTAND BUT IT. >> RUDY GIULIANI AND THE PRESIDENT'S NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER ARE ACTUALLY THE 2 PEOPLE THAT HAVE CREATED THE MOST CREDIBILITY PROBLEMS WITH THIS STORY I WANT TO REMIND YOU REMIND COUPLE OF PEOPLE THIS IS RUDY GIULIANI IN AN INTERVIEW WITH THE DAILY BEAST. HE SAID YOU KNOW ACKNOWLEDGING THE IDEA THAT YES THE U.S. TREASURY DEPARTMENT MAY HAVE DECLARED ONE OF HIS FORMER ASSOCIATES UKRAINIAN PARLIAMENTARIAN AND READ YOUR CASH WHO WORK WITH GIULIANI ON HIS HUNT FOR DIRT ON THE BIDENS TO BE AN ACTIVE RUSSIAN AGENT. BUT GIULIANI SAID MAYBE THAT SOME DEEP STATE TALK AND THEN HE HAD THE CHANCE THAT ARE CAUTIOUS A RUSSIAN SPY IS NO BETTER THAN FIFTY-FIFTY I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT THE UNITED STATES TREASURY DEPARTMENT HAS SECTION THIS MAN, BUT LET ME ADD THIS. AT THE NATIONAL SECURITY I KNOW IT'S POSTED NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER ROBERT O'BRIEN. EMERGED FROM A MEETING WITH THE PRESIDENT UNCERTAIN WHETHER HE HAD GOTTEN THROUGH TO THE PRESIDENT. TRUMP A TRUCK, THE SHOULDERS THAT ABRINES WARNING THE FORMER OFFICIAL SAID DISMISS CONCERNED THAT HIS LAWYERS ACTIVITIES BY SAYING THAT'S RUDY BUT O'BRIEN WAS TRYING TO WARN HIM THAT RUDY. IT BASICALLY GOTTEN INFILTRATED IF YOU WILL BY RUSSIAN AGENTS WORKING HIM IN UKRAINE SO I DO THINK THOSE FACTS ARE IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHY SO MANY NORMAL NEWS ORGANIZATIONS HAVE SO MUCH SKEPTICISM ABOUT THIS BUT JOSHUA JOHNSON. YOU'RE JOE BIDEN I DO THINK YOU NEED TO TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TONIGHT AND GUARANTEE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TONIGHT THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO TRADE OFF YOUR NAME. MISTER VICE PRESIDENT MAKE MONEY OFF OF YOUR NAME I DO THINK THE PUBLIC WANTS TO HEAR THAT. >> THE PUBLIC WANTS HEAR THAT THAT'S THAT CERTAINLY FAIR I THINK IT IS WORTH BEARING IN MIND THAT THE 220,000 AMERICANS HAVE DIED FROM COVID-19 MILLIONS OF US HAVE NOT INFECTED NEW JOBLESS NUMBERS CAME OUT TODAY, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS MORE OF US HAVE FILED FOR FIRST TIME UNEMPLOYMENT. AND THERE IS STILL YOU KNOW BILL READY TO BE SIGNED BECAUSE OF THE POLITICAL NASH NATIONS AROUND AMY CONEY BARRETT AND THIS ELECTION. SO IF I WAS JOE BIDEN I THINK IT'S PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES ABOUT TRADING OFF OF MY NAME. BUT I WOULD ALSO REMIND AMERICANS THAT ONCE THIS ELECTION IS OVER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A COVID DEAL WHICH ONE OF US DO YOU TRUST TO GET THIS ECONOMY BACK ON TRACK WHICH ONE OF US TRUST TO MOVE US FORWARD FROM HERE I. WIRY MAN I'M SO TIRED LIKE IN THE DEBATES ARE JUST SOME NOTIFYING AND I AND THE PEOPLE WHO CHINA AND US ON THE WEEKEND TO THE E-MAIL US THEY'RE OVER THERE OVER THE LAST CYCLE EVEN PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SEE THE DEBATES PEOPLE WHO WANT THIS TO BE ROBUST EXCHANGE IDEAS AND I'M NOT A FAN OF THE CHANGING THE FORMAT WAS AMUSED BUT NOT HAVE ISSUES ABOUT THAT THAT I'VE ALREADY STATED BUT EACH I THINK WE'RE JUST OVER THIS AT THIS POINT WAS YOU WON'T BE FREEZING US ABOUT YOUR OPPONENT. YEAH YOU'RE CLEARLY LOSING BUT JUST STILL AHEAD LOSE ALREADY OR GO AHEAD AND WIN ALREADY WE WRAP THIS UP SO WE I THINK THE THE FASTER THAT OUR COLLEAGUE CHRISTIAN WALKER TO MAKE THIS 90 MINUTES AGO THE BETTER WILL BE NOW JOSH, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, I MEAN THERE'S NO PART OF THIS DEBATE. >> THAT I THINK PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO I THINK WE'RE ALL WHITE KNUCKLES A LITTLE BIT OF LIFE. PLEASE DON'T EMBARRASS THE COUNTRY. AGAIN WITH THIS WE'RE WITH WITH THIS PERFORMANCE. MICHAEL BESCHLOSS THE PRESIDENT. SOME BEHAVIOR LAST 48 HOURS. I KNOW WE SIT THERE AND SAY OH HE'S ALWAYS LIKE THIS. YOU KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE HE DID TURN IT UP TO 11 I MEAN THIS BUSINESS WITH 60 MINUTES JUST WEIRD IN FACT. HE CHOSE TO RELEASE THIS WHOLE THING AND SO BEFORE THE DEBATE TONIGHT. HERE NOW IS A SOUND BITE OF THE PRESENT UNITED STATES CHEERING ON. THE SUPREME COURT GETTING RID OF OBAMACARE LET ME PLAY IT. >> WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS. IT'S GOT A WAYS TO GO I MEAN WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS I THINK I THINK IT WILL I THINK I I HOPE THAT THE END. IT WILL BE SO GOOD IF THEY IF THEY SO WE'LL COME UP WITH A PLAN WILL BE A YOU KNOW WE WELL, BUT YOU SAID IT WOULD ALREADY HAVE LARGE SECTIONS OF IT ALREADY DONE. AND WE'VE ALREADY COME UP WITH PLANS. >> IT JUST SEEMS SO SELF-DESTRUCTIVE MICHAEL WHAT WE'RE WATCHING OF THIS PRESIDENT THE LAST 48 HOURS. >> IT DOES AND YOU KNOW COMPARE THIS TO WHAT A DISCIPLINED CANDIDATE WOULD DO. YOU KNOW YOU IN CASE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT WHERE YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT FIRST DEBATE AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE TOLD POLLSTERS DONALD TRUMP DIDN'T LOOK LIKE A PRESIDENT HE SOUNDED WEIRD. HE WAS RULED SO YOU WOULD THINK THAT MAYBE TONIGHT, HE'S GOING TO TRY TO OVERCOME THAT SO HOW DOES HE OVERCOME IT. HE DOES THINGS LIKE WHAT YOU SHOWED US. YOU KNOW PUT SOUTH OUR WHOLE 60 MINUTES. INTERVIEW WITH NOT TOO MUCH PRESIDENTIAL BEHAVIOR. HE BRINGS IN SOME BIZARRE GUY FROM HUNTER BIDEN'S LIFE AND STICKS SOME IN THE AUDIENCE THAT'S REALLY PRESIDENTIAL BEHAVIOR. IT REALLY SUGGESTS THAT THIS IS A GUY WHO'S IN LOVE WITH THE IDEA THAT HE WON LAST TIME BY SUCH THINGS AS BRINGING BILL CLINTON'S ACCUSERS TO A DEBATE AND IF HE DOES THAT SORT OF THING ONCE AGAIN THAT PERHAPS HE'LL PULL IT OUT THIS TIME THIS IS A CAMPAIGN THAT IS NOT ABOUT STRATEGY. IT'S NOT ABOUT THIS IT'S NOT ABOUT MESSAGE IN THE LAST 12 DAYS. IT'S ABOUT A CANDIDATE WHO IS BASICALLY SATISFYING HIS OWN PSYCHE AT RECORD AS FOR THE NEXT 10 MINUTES AND MAKING HIMSELF FEEL BETTER WHETHER OR NOT IT DAMAGES THIS CAMPAIGN. >> YEAH, IT'S IT'S HARD TO LOOK AT THIS YOU KNOW WE'RE ALL WE'RE ALL SORT OF WEATHER HISTORY WHETHER POLITICS WITH HER. WE'RE ALL SORT OF TRAINED TO ANALYZE THINGS WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF NORMALCY AND THIS IS JUST YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THIS IS THIS IS NOT AND I THINK FOR TOO LONG, WE TRIED TO MAKE IT FEEL NORMAL AND IT JUST ISN'T AND WE'RE GETTING TASTE OF IT IS ALL RIGHT WE'LL PAUSE IT HERE CASEY JOSHUA MICHAEL STICK WITH US UP AHEAD, WHICH IS STATES GO BEFORE ELECTION DAY THERE ARE STILL SOME VOTERS. >> TELL US THEY HAVE NOT MADE UP THEIR MINDS THAT ARE IN THIS REPORTERS ON THE GROUND TALKING TO MEMBERS OF 2 KEY GROUPS BOTH CANDIDATES ARE TRYING TO WIN OVER THE FIRST ALL THIS OUT. WE'LL BRING YOU SOME MEMORABLE MOMENTS FROM THE FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES IN PAST YEARS. WELCOME BACK TO 1980 FOR ANOTHER YEAR WHEN THERE WAS ONLY 2 DEBATES. INCOMING PRESIDENT PRETTY FOR FIRST DEBATE. ♪ SO THE INCOMING PRESIDENT NEEDED HAVE A GOOD SECOND DEBATE WILL DELIVERED A LINE ♪ WE STILL ALL REMEMBER DECADES LATER. NOT AT ALL. MISTER TO IGNITE AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT ALSO. >> I WILL NOT MAKE AGE AN ISSUE OF THIS CAMPAIGN I AM NOT GOING TO EXPLOIT. 4 POLITICAL PURPOSES, MY OPPONENT'S YOUTH AND INEXPERIENCE. ♪ >> FAVORABLE CONDITIONS ALLOWING THEM TO PUSH THE FLAMES AWAY FROM HOMES, BUT THE WIN CAN CHANGE ALL OF THIS ON A DIME. WE CAN CONTINUE TO EXPECT PROTESTS AS PEOPLE CONTINUE TO CALL FOR MORE ANSWERS TO WHAT HAPPENED AND CONTINUE TO FALL FOR THAT ACCOUNTABILITY. >> STARTING TO FEEL LIKE A TYPICAL GENERAL ELECTION BOTH CANDIDATES ACTUALLY OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL MAKING THEIR PITCH TO VOTERS. ♪ >> THE MOMENT THAT ♪ >> REALLY UNDERSTAND WHO WE ARE WHO WE SAY WE ARE IS RIGHT HERE AT OUR FEET. >> YOU GOT TO GET A FOUR-YEAR FOR YOU TO BE A SUPER EXPENSIVE WE HAVE CREATED A SYSTEM WHERE THE TICKET TO THE MIDDLE CLASS IS A THING THAT MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES HAVE TO STRESS ABOUT AND BORROW FOR AND PATCHED TOGETHER. >> WHY IS THIS HAPPENING WITH CHRIS HAYES SUBSCRIBE NOW. SO BREAKING. >> NEWS IN OUR CHANGING WORLD. ♪ ♪ >> THIS MORNING ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH THE NEW NORMAL FOR SCHOOLS WILL LOOK LIKE MANY TEACHERS LEFT MAKING TOUGH CHOICES BETWEEN THE JOB THE WHEN DECIDE. >> MY CHILDREN HAVE A JOB THAT'S AN IMPOSSIBLE DECISION YOU'RE CREATING A LITTLE COMMUNITY SCHOOL THIS WE FELT CELLS DEVELOP AND CHANGE LET'S TURN IT OVER TO STUDENTS HOW THEY REALLY FEEL ABOUT RETURNING TO SCHOOL BUT THEN ♪ ♪ >> TED LINES COULD BE HARD TO UNDERSTAND. ♪ 7 QUESTIONS SO WE STARTED THE NEWSCAST FOR THEM WE HOPE YOUR ♪ FAMILY WATCH NIGHTLY NEWS KIDS EDITION. >> THE PERSON LEVELING THE ACCUSATIONS ISN'T ME IS JOHN. BOLTON. ♪ I HAVE HEARD FROM SOURCES AND YOU GUYS HAVE REPORTED THE DOCTOR FAUCI THREW SECRETARY AZAR HAD BEEN ♪ HANGING THE POTS AND PANS VERY EARLY IN THE YEAR. I WORKED ON CAMPAIGNS THAT WAS A CAMPAIGN EVENT IT WAS A ♪ >> WIFE SAYS NO 2 HOURS WEEKDAYS FROM ♪ >> 46 ON MSNBC. >> PROTESTS BROKE OUT CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC THE STORY. >> EMERGENCY APPROVAL TO TREAT COVID-19 PLASMA, MANY QUESTIONS REMAIN ABOUT HOW WELL IT WORKS FROM EVERY ANGLE HOW MUCH OF THE INCREASED TENSION WAS DUE TO THE MILITIAS THAT CAME HERE ON THE GROUND DEADLY WESTERN WILDFIRES, CALIFORNIA ENTIRE COMMUNITIES WERE ALSO WIPED OFF THE MAP AND IN DEATH ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS IS INDOOR AIR QUALITY WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ADDRESS NBC NIGHTLY NEWS WITH LESTER HOLT. ♪ ♪ >> WITH MORE THAN 47 MILLION AMERICANS HAVE ALREADY CAST THEIR BALLOTS AS OF THIS AFTERNOON. >> AND THE SELECTION DONALD TRUMP AND JOE BIDEN HAVE A LOT FEWER WOULD BE VOTERS TO EVEN TRY TO WIN OVER TONIGHT WITH THE PRESIDENT TRAILING IN MOST POLLS, HE HAS TO APPEAL THE NIGHT TO VOTERS BUT NOT YET SENT THEIR BALLOTS IN OR DECIDE TO VOTE YET IT'S A SMALL SEGMENT OF FOLKS. THE CLAIM THEY'RE UNDECIDED. SO HOW ARE THEY GONNA VOTE A REPORTER SPOKE WITH 2 GROUPS OF UNDECIDED VOTERS BLACK WOMEN SUBURBAN WOMEN TO SEE. BUT THEY'LL BE WATCHING FOR TONIGHT, I'LL START WITH MSNBC SENIOR NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT CHRIS JANSING IN ATLANTA CHRIS AGAIN THESE ARE VOTERS THAT CLAIM THERE ARE UNDECIDEDS AND A LOT OF US I YOU KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS LIKE REALLY OR THIS MANY UNDECIDEDS BUT WE'LL FIND OUT. >> YEAH THEY BRISTLE AT THE IDEA THAT THEY'RE NOT UNDECIDED THAT THEY'RE SOMEHOW MAKING IT OUT, BUT YOU'RE NOT DECIDED BETWEEN TRUMP AND BIDEN 3.30 SOMETHING BLACK WOMEN ARE NOT VOTING FOR DONALD TRUMP, NO WAY NO HOW THE QUESTION IS WILL THEY VOTE FOR BIDEN WILL THEY WRITE IN SOMEONE ELSE OR WILL THEY SIMPLY NOT VOTE FOR PRESIDENT LOOK THEY ARE TIRED OF WHAT THEY SEE AS A TEMPER CREDIT PARTY THAT TAKES BLACK WOMEN VOTERS FOR GRANTED SO HERE'S WHAT THEY TOLD ME ABOUT HOW THEY'RE FEELING RIGHT NOW ABOUT THE PARTY AS A WHOLE AND JOE BIDEN IN PARTICULAR TAKE A LISTEN. >> IT'S LIKE A BAD RELATIONSHIP YES YOU KEEP TELLING YOUR BOYFRIEND, HEY YOU KNOW LIKE OURS ON FRIDAYS AND HE SET OUT BY CLOUDS ON EVERY FRIDAY THERE'S NO FLOUT WHAT FLOWERS DO YOU NEED DELIVERED TO YOU AT THE DEBATE. >> I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IF THIS THERE IF THAT OR AFTER THE ELECTION YOU NEED TO DISCUSS THE WEALTH GAP. WE NEED TO DISCUSS WHY WE ARE DISCRIMINATED WHEN WE GO TO BUY HOME WOW WE'RE GETTING THESE HIGHER MORTGAGE RATES MEAN NOT VOTING FOR BIDEN IS NOT A VOTE FOR TRUMP. IT'S ME SAYING, HEY BIDEN I WANT YOU TO DO MORE WE'RE ALL GOING TO WATCH THE DEBATE TOGETHER. >> WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR WHEN TRUMP IS HAMMERING YOU KNOW TRY TO PLAY IT COOL BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT COLD I WE'RE SEEING A MORE AGGRESSIVE TOMORROW HAS TO BE IT'S A DEBATE HE HAD BACKS THAT HE COULD HAVE THROWN OUT THERE WHEN TRUMP SAID THAT IT WAS NOTHING HAPPENING AT BECAUSE WE SAID NOBODY HAS BEEN AFFECTED FROM ANY OF RALLIES I MIGHT ADD NO HARM IS LOOKING OVER LIKE OH REALLY YOU NEED TO SPEAK. >> BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO THINK IT'S TRUMP IS GOING TO TALK ALL NEXT HOUR ON THE RIGHT YOU THINK HE'S GOING TO TALK OVER YEAH. >> THEY WANT AGGRESSIVE BIDEN A LOT FOCUS SPYING THE STAGE IS SET BACK THEIR THEY'RE ABOUT TO ARRIVE, BUT THEY SAID IT COULD BE A LARGE DETERMINING FACTOR FOR THEM TONIGHT IN A PLACE LIKE GEORGIA. >> THE TRUMP WON 2016 BY 5 POINTS AND IS NOW DEAD EVEN. HE SAID THE KIND OF VOTERS THAT ARE GOING MAKE A DIFFERENCE TRUCK WHETHER OR NOT FULLY BUT PEOPLE I BELIEVE THEY'RE UNDECIDED. I TELL YOU AFTER TALKING TO THEM FOR 90 MINUTES. THIS IS A GROUP OF VOTERS WHO FRANKLY DON'T FEEL THAT THEY HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN WHAT THEY CONSIDER TO BE THE LESSER OF 2 EVILS AND THEY SAY THEY FEEL THEY NEED TO SEE SOMETHING TONIGHT THAT MAKES THEM COME OVER. >> I'LL TELL YOU CHRIS I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I TOOK AWAY FROM THIS AND IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. THEY WANT TO GET TO FROM JOE BIDEN AND I THINK THAT'S A FAIR CRITIQUE WE'VE NOT SEEN A TOP JOE BIDEN. THROW A PUNCH. HE'S TAKEN PLENTY OF PUNCHES. HE IS SHOWN HIS RESILIENCY RIGHT. BUT THAT WAS INTERESTING AND AND AND I THINK THERE ARE A FEW OTHER TRUMP'S LEANING VOTERS THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY COME OVER TO HIM IF YOU SHOW SOME TOUGH THIS TONIGHT, CHRIS JANSING IN ATLANTA FOR US CHRIS. THANK YOU. NOW I WANT TO TURN NBC'S HOW THE FIRST BELL WHO WAS IN HERSHEY PENNSYLVANIA, WHICH MEANS IT SMELLS TERRIFIC WHERE SHE IS RIGHT BUT YOU'VE BEEN SPEAKING TO SUBURBAN WOMEN VOTERS. AND IF YOU WERE ABLE TO NOT GET DISTRACTED BY THE SMELL OF CHOCOLATE ID TELL US WHAT YOU ARE. >> ACTUALLY IN A PARKING LOT TALK BUT WE'LL JUST GO AT THE BEEN SPEAKING WITH THESE SUBURBAN WOMEN NOW FOR A COUPLE WEEKS LISTENING IN ON THE FOCUS GROUPS THAT THEY'RE HAVING THESE ARE WOMEN WHO VOTED FOR TRUMP IN 2016. AND NOW ARE UNDECIDED. >> AND KNOW, I'M HERE WALKING UP AND DOWN THE STREET AND CHOCOLATE AVENUE AND YOU GET A SENSE THAT TRUMP YOU KNOW HIS COMMENTS ABOUT NEEDING THESE WOMEN TO LOVE HIM AGAIN THERE'S A REASON WHY HE THING THAT IS ♪ BECAUSE THEY ONCE DID LOVE HIM IF YOU LOOK AT THESE POLLS CHALK. HE WON WHITE WOMEN AND SOME OF THESE LEAFY SUBURB SUBURBS IN THESE BATTLEGROUND STATES BY A PRETTY NARROW MARGIN. BUT NOW PENNSYLVANIA. HE'S LOSING THEM BY ABOUT 10 POINTS TO JOE BIDEN AND FROM WHAT I COULD SURMISE FROM SPEAKING WITH THESE WOMEN TO KIND OF FALL INTO 2 GROUPS, THE FIRST GROUP IS THE REPUBLICAN WOMEN WHO ARE MORE MODERATE AND THEY'RE LIKE LOOK I'M GONNA PULL THE LEVER FOR BIDEN BUT I DON'T REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT ON CAMERA. I'M PUTTING COUNTRY OVER PARTY. LET'S DO THIS AND THEN THE SECOND GROUP OF WOMEN WHO ARE LIKELY SUBTRACT BILL WHO I SPOKE WITH YESTERDAY WERE MORE CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN WOMEN ♪ WHO ARE REALLY AGONIZING OVER THIS CHOICE TAKE A LISTEN. >> I WAS TOLD BY LONGTIME FRIEND, BUT IF I DON'T VOTE FOR TRUMP, I'M VOTING TO HURT HER CHILDREN THAT KIND ABSOLUTELY 100%. I GET THE KEY WAITING FOR SOMETHING. SOMETHING FOR HIM. EITHER CANDIDATE TO BE ENOUGH TO SWEENEY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I HONESTLY WOULD PROBABLY FEEL BEST WITH MY CONTENT IN VOTING 3RD PARTY. WHICH I KNOW ALSO KIND OF RISK HE A LOT OF PEOPLE CONSIDERED TOO RISKY. TRY TO KEEP WAITING AND HOPING FOR MAYBE SOMETHING IN THE DEBATE NOW THAT THEY CAN BE MUTED MAYBE SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN THAT I CAN SAY OK I CAN FEEL GOOD IN MY CONTENTS WERE VOTING FOR YOU AFTER THE DEBATE I TALKED TO A GROUP OF WOMEN IN ALL 2016 TRAVELERS AND THERE WAS SINGLE ONE OF THEM WHO WAS CERTAIN THAT THEY COULD VOTE FOR TRUMP AGAIN IN 2020 IN FACT, THE ONE PERSON WHO HAD REALLY GOOD LEANING TOWARD VOTING FOR TRUMP AGAIN WAS BACK ON THE IT WASN'T THAT THEY NECESSARILY DECIDED THAT THEY WERE ALL IN FOR BIDEN. >> BUT MOST OF THEM TOLD ME DAD TO BE TOLD HAD ABSOLUTELY CLOSE THE DOOR ON TRUMP. >> THE TOP YOU GET YOU GET A SENSE FROM THESE WOMEN THAT THEY'RE NOT REALLY VOTING FOR BIDEN BUT THEY'RE VOTING AGAINST TRUMP SO FOR THIS NEXT DEBATE. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN I MEAN I'M BETTER JUST NOT SCREW UP. LONG ALSO TOLD ME THEN THAT INTERVIEW THAT YOU KNOW THERE'S THAT YOU CALL THESE WOMEN, SHY BIDEN VOTERS AND 2016. WE HAD THE HIDDEN TRUMP VOTERS THAT WE ALL TALKED ABOUT WHO SHOWED UP AT THE POLLS AND REALLY SWUNG THIS AND SURPRISE VICTORY NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE WOMEN AND YOU CAN LABEL I'M LIKE SHE'S THAT IS SHY BIDEN VOTERS. >> IT'S A FASCINATING THING AND I COMPLETELY AGREE I THINK THERE'S MORE LIKELY TO BE SHOT BY THIS I DON'T SEE MANY SHOTS ON PRICE FALL. IN PENNSYLVANIA FOR US FROM HER SHE IN PARTICULAR, THANK YOU. >> WHAT WE NOW CALL HAS COME OUT FORMER REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN FROM SOUTH FLORIDA AND NBC NEWS POLITICAL ANALYST AND DON EDWARDS, THE FORMER DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSWOMAN FROM MERRILL AND AN NBC NEWS POLITICAL ANALYST. >> LET ME START WITH WHAT CHRIS JANSING HEARD FROM THAT GROUP OF VOTERS, BLACK WOMEN THERE AND I'LL BE HONEST. WHAT THEY WERE SAYING ABOUT JOE BIDEN IT I I I DID IT TAKE I WANT TO SEE YOU TOUGHER. I WANT TO SEE HIM BRING IT TO HIM A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE ALONE IN THAT YOU WANT TO SEE BIDEN BOTH THE PRESIDENTIAL. BUT A LITTLE TOUGHER. >> WELL WE DID NOT SO MUCH HERE IS WHAT I THINK I THINK BLACK WOMEN ARE ACCUSTOMED TO THE FIGHT FOR OUR JOBS. WE FIGHT FOR OUR CHILDREN WE FIGHT FOR OUR COMMUNITIES AND I THINK WHAT THESE WOMEN WERE EXPRESSING IS THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ALIGNED WITH A CANDIDATE. IT'S GOING TO FIGHT FOR THEM AND THE WAY THAT THEY WANT THAT DEMONSTRATED IS REALLY PUSHING BACK HARD AGAINST DONALD TRUMP. ESPECIALLY WHEN HE COMES OUT WITH THE NONSENSE AND SO YOU KNOW I THINK THAT THERE IS A REASON THAT IN 96% OF BLACK WOMEN SHOWING UP AT THE POLLS ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR JOE BIDEN BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE A GROUP OF WOMEN WHO WANT TO DEMOCRATS. TO FIGHT FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN THE BACKBONE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, I BELIEVE JOE BIDEN IS GOING TO DO THAT BUT HE HAS TO DEMONSTRATE THAT TONIGHT. >> CARLOS YOU HEARD FROM THOSE SORT UNDECIDED REPUBLICAN WOMEN THERE. >> I. >> IT LOOK AT IT SOUNDS TO ME, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A WAY BACK TO TRUMP. HE JUST HAS TO GIVE THEM A WAY BACK AND HE'S YET TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT. >> HE JOKED I ACTUALLY KNOW A FEW PEOPLE WHO ARE HOLDING THEIR ABOUT US HERE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT YET DECIDED THAT YOU DO CONSIDER THIS OF THE LESSER OF 2 EVILS WHICH IS TYPICAL UNDECIDED VOTERS BOTH CANDIDATES HAVE A REALLY LOW BAR SCENE FOR THE UNDECIDED VOTERS OF PEOPLE I KNOW ARE LOOKING FOR TRUMP TO BE A SEMI DECENT HUMAN BEING ON THE STAGE TO BE SOMEONE WHO IS SOMEWHAT RESPECTFUL ANSWERS. THE QUESTIONS DOESN'T SALT HIS OPPONENT AND THEN SOME PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUT JOE VOTING FOR JOE BIDEN WANT HEAR 2 THINGS NUMBER ONE IS HE CALL HEAR ABOUT EXPLAINING HIS POLICY PROPOSALS NUMBER 2 IS HE WILLING TO CONTINUE JUST SOME BOWING THE FAR LEFT BECAUSE THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS PRETTY GOOD JOB ABOUT STOOPING ESPECIALLY SOME YOUNGER HISPANIC PEOPLE ABOUT JOE BIDEN HAVING THESE DEEP RELATIONSHIPS AND TIES TO THEM OR NOT JUST THEM A BETTER PARTY SO PRETTY LOW BARS WE'LL SEE THESE CANDIDATES TO >> YOU DOLLARS I'D CARRY US IF YOU WOULD MIND RESPONDING TO CARLOS THERE ABOUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS WHAT DOES WEEK WE TALKED ABOUT BIDEN SHOWING SOME TOUGHNESS THERE A LITTLE BIT FOR SOME OF THOSE VOTERS. WHAT ARE SOME THINGS HE DOES NEED TO ACCOMPLISH DOES HE NEED TO YOU KNOW. WE MOURN PARTICULARLY WHEN THINKING ABOUT THAT SOUTH FLORIDA, LATINO VOTER THAT RIGHT NOW HATES THE S WORD DOES HE NEED TO BE MORE. DIRECT ON SOME OF THESE OTHER ISSUE THINGS FOR INSTANCE, WHETHER IT'S GREEN NEW DEAL OR SORT OF SOME SHOWS SOME DISTANCE FROM THE PROGRESSIVE LEFT. >> SO HERE'S THING, I'M LEFT OF CENTER AND LEFT JOE BIDEN BUT I FEEL REALLY STRONGLY THAT IS GOING TO BE A SOLID PRESIDENT EVEN IF THAT MEANS THAT HE'S TRAVELING IN THE MIDDLE AND SO I THINK THAT WHAT PEOPLE WHAT SOME PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR FROM JOE BIDEN IS 80 HE REALLY IS AND THEY NEED TO HEAR MORE ABOUT HIM BECAUSE TO JOE BIDEN THAT I'VE KNOWN FOR 30 YEARS IS NOT ON THE LEFT OF WHERE I AM BUT THE JOE BIDEN THAT I KNOW IS YOU KNOW THOSE RELATIONSHIPS. YOURSELF THE RIGHT COMPROMISE IS WILLING TO GO FOR GOOD THAT DOESN'T BLOW UP THE WHOLE SHEBANG AND SO I THINK YES TO CONVEY THAT TONIGHT AND HE'S GOT TO GET A WORD IN EDGEWISE AND I'M NOT REALLY CONVINCED THAT NEED OR NOT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS GOING TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. >> WELL AND IN SOME WAYS THAT THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE WORST RESULT IF YOU'RE JOE BIDEN IF THEY DONALD TRUMP'S GOING TO DISRUPT THE DEBATE WE SAW THAT WORK FROM THE LAST TIME. AT THIS TIME IN OCTOBER OF 2016 YOU ARE ON THE BALLOT. YOU WERE CAMPAIGNING. GIVE ME THE FEEL ON THE GROUND TODAY. AND FLORIDA 26 WHERE YOU LIVE AND THE FEELING ON THE GROUND YOU HAD. IN OCTOBER 2016 IN FLORIDA, 26. >> WELL IT'S INTERESTING SHOT BECAUSE JUST A COUPLE MONTHS AGO THE PRESIDENT WAS DOING REALLY WELL IN HISPANIC SOUTH FLORIDA. EACH OTHER A COUPLE DISTRICTS OUT HERE SOUTHERN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY WHERE YOU GREW UP IN AGE AND OTHER PRESIDENTS HAVEN'T REALLY COMPARED HIS 2016 NUMBERS WHICH WERE ATROCIOUS HE WAS COMPETITIVE. HAD A CHANCE OF ACTUALLY BEATING JOE BIDEN ISIS TRICKS AFTER THAT FIRST DEBATE THE PRESIDENT STARTED LOSING SUPPORT A LOT OF THOSE FIRST GENERATION SECOND GENERATION, HISPANIC VOTERS PEOPLE UNDER 50 REALLY LOST FAITH AND TRUST IN HIM BECAUSE HE WAS SUCH A MASS DURING THAT DEBATE AND SO DISRESPECTFUL SO TONIGHT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR AND HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WIN BACK SOME OF THOSE VOTERS BUT IT'S GOING BE DIFFICULT BECAUSE IT'S GETTING LATE AND BECAUSE WE KNOW THE PRESIDENT'S NATURE. >> CARLOS CURBELO DONNA YOU GUYS ARE TERRIFIC I APPRECIATE BOTH OF FOR SHARING YOUR PERSPECTIVES TONIGHT. UP AHEAD THE DRAMATIC. >> A POLITICAL SHIFT IN ARIZONA. THAT STATE IS NOW IN PLAY FOR DEMOCRATS BUT STILL ONE THAT TRUMP IS COUNTING ON TO GET HIM TO THAT ALL IMPORTANT TO ON A TRIP BACK TO 2012 WHEN PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA A BRIEF LESSON ON MILITARY TECHNOLOGY. ♪ >> ROMNEY MAYBE HASN'T SPENT MUCH TIME LOOKING AT HOW OUR MILITARY WORKS YOU MENTIONED THE NAVY FOR EXAMPLE, AND WE HAVE FEWER SHIPS THAN WE DID IN 1960. WELL GOVERNOR WE ALSO HAVE FEWER HORSES AND BAYONETS BECAUSE THE NATURE OF OUR MILITARY'S CHANGED WE HAVE THESE THINGS CALLED AIRCRAFT CARRIERS WHERE PLANES LAND ON THESE ♪ SHIPS THAT GO UNDERWATER NUCLEAR SUBMARINES. >> MORE FAVORABLE CONDITIONS ALLOWING THEM TO PUSH THE FLAMES AWAY FROM HOMES, BUT THE WIN CAN CHANGE ALL OF THIS ON A DIME. WE CAN CONTINUE TO EXPECT PROTESTS AS PEOPLE CONTINUE TO CALL FOR MORE ANSWERS TO WHAT HAPPENED AND CONTINUE TO FALL FOR THAT ACCOUNTABILITY. >> STARTING TO FEEL LIKE A TYPICAL GENERAL ELECTION BOTH CANDIDATES ACTUALLY OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL MAKING THEIR PITCH TO VOTERS. ♪ >> THE MOMENT THAT ♪ >> REALLY UNDERSTAND WHO WE ARE WHO WE SAY WE ARE IS RIGHT HERE AT OUR FEET. >> YOU GOT TO GET A FOUR-YEAR FOR YOU TO BE A SUPER EXPENSIVE WE HAVE CREATED A SYSTEM WHERE THE TICKET TO THE MIDDLE CLASS IS A THING THAT MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES HAVE TO STRESS ABOUT AND BORROW FOR AND PATCHED TOGETHER. >> WHY IS THIS HAPPENING WITH CHRIS HAYES SUBSCRIBE NOW. SO BREAKING. >> NEWS IN OUR CHANGING WORLD. ♪ ♪ >> THIS MORNING ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH THE NEW NORMAL FOR SCHOOLS WILL LOOK LIKE MANY TEACHERS LEFT MAKING TOUGH CHOICES BETWEEN THE JOB THE WHEN DECIDE. >> MY CHILDREN HAVE A JOB, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE DECISION YOU'RE CREATING A LITTLE COMMUNITY SCHOOL THIS IS SOME OF THE WEEK JUST TELL YOURSELF IN LET'S TURN IT OVER TO STUDENTS HOW THEY REALLY FEEL ABOUT RETURNING TO SCHOOL AND THIS RIGHT TO CHOOSE OR REALLY HIM. ♪ >> TED LINES COULD BE HARD ♪ >> TO UNDERSTAND. 7 QUESTIONS SO WE STARTED THE NEWSCAST FOR THEM WE HOPE YOUR FAMILY WATCH NIGHTLY NEWS KIDS EDITION. ♪ >> THE PERSON LEVELING THE ACCUSATIONS ISN'T ME IS JOHN. ♪ BOLTON. I HAVE HEARD FROM SOURCES AND YOU GUYS HAVE REPORTED THE DOCTOR FAUCI THREW SECRETARY AZAR HAS BEEN HANGING THE POTS AND PANS VERY EARLY IN THE YEAR. ♪ I WORKED ON ♪ CAMPAIGNS THAT WAS A CAMPAIGN EVENT IT WAS A >> SAYS NO 2 HOURS WEEKDAYS FROM 46 ON MSNBC. ♪ >> PROTESTS BROKE OUT CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC THE STORY. >> EMERGENCY APPROVAL TO TREAT COVID-19 PLASMA, MANY QUESTIONS REMAIN ABOUT HOW WELL IT WORKS FROM EVERY ANGLE HOW MUCH OF THE INCREASED TENSION WAS DUE TO THE MILITIAS THAT CAME HERE ON THE GROUND DEAD LEAVING WESTERN WILDFIRES, CALIFORNIA ENTIRE COMMUNITIES WERE ALSO WIPED OFF THE MAP AND IN DEATH ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS IS INDOOR AIR QUALITY WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ADDRESS THAT ♪ NBC NIGHTLY NEWS WITH LESTER HOLT. >> WELCOME BACK IN THE KEY BATTLEGROUND STATE OF ARIZONA BALLOT. COUNTING IS ALREADY UNDER WAY IT'S ONE OF SEVERAL STATES. THAT ACTUALLY STARTS TABULATING VOTES BEFORE ELECTION DAY IT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT IF YOU WANT TO FIND OUT WHICH WAY THIS RACE IS GOING ON ELECTION NIGHT. MORE THAN A MILLION PEOPLE BY THE WAY ALREADY VOTED IN THE STATE ARE ZONE. IT'S A NUMBER THAT IS ALREADY 97% HIGHER THAN THIS TIME IN WE HAVE A LOT OF THOSE INCREDIBLE 97% A 105% THINGS LIKE THAT WITH SHERIFF OF THE BALLOTS ALREADY TURNED IN NEARLY HALF FROM MISTER DEMOCRAT TO THIS TREND HOLDS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE 1996. >> AND VAN HILL, YOUR JOINS ME NOW FROM THE CAMPUS OF ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY. WHERE THE FIRST ON CAMPUS EARLY VOTING CENTER OPENED TODAY. ON THE NUMBERS KEEP COMING IN, BUT LET ME ASK YOU THIS WHAT WHAT DO REPUBLICANS TELL YOU IS THE MOMENT WE SHOULD START LOOKING FOR THE REPUBLICAN SURGE BECAUSE IT HAPPENS. >> EXACTLY WHERE 12 DAYS AWAY CHECK IN AS SECOND WITH A TOP GOP CONSULTANT EARLIER HERE AND WE'RE STARTING TO LOOK THROUGH SOME OF THESE DATA NUMBERS HERE IN RIGHT NOW IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA SPECIFICALLY HERE IN MARICOPA COUNTY WHICH IS THE GREATER PHOENIX AREA SORT OF HIS UCONN AMERICA'S SUBURBS WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT WAS A LONGTIME REPUBLICAN ADVANTAGE, BUT SUDDENLY IT'S THE DEMOCRATS THAT ARE NOT ONLY INCREASING THEIR TURNOUT. BUT PARTICULARLY OF INTEREST IS THE FACT THAT ABOUT 43% OF MARICOPA COUNTY DEMOCRATS THAT HAVE VOTED IN CASES EARLY BALLOTS. SO FAR 43% OF THEM HEAVY THAT EITHER NEVER VOTED BEFORE OR ITALY VOTED ONCE IN THE LAST 3 GENERAL ELECTIONS AND THAT GOP CONSULTANT SAID THAT THAT IS A NUMBER THAT IS STANDING OUT TO HIM HERE YOU KNOW WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REST OF THE STATE HERE YOU'RE SAYING THAT 75% OF THESE. BALLOTS OF OUR THERE'S OF THE 75% INCREASE IN RETURN OVER JUST 4 YEARS AGO AND THAT IS NOTABLE HERE IN ARIZONA BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY OF MAIL IN VOTING YOUR PEOPLE HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE BACK IN 2016, 75% OF VOTERS VOTED BY MAIL AND SO THE FACT THAT YOU ARE SEEING ABOUT A 10% INCREASE IN DEMOCRATIC BALLOTS THAT ARE BEING RETURNED AT THIS POINT HERE IN MARICOPA COUNTY OVER 4 YEARS AGO WHILE REPUBLICAN TURNOUT HAS ACTUALLY DECREASED COMPARED TO 4 YEARS AGO, THOSE ARE THE 2 NOTABLE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW. >> AND I'M CURIOUS VAN IS TO GO BACK, I MEAN. WHAT IS THE REPUBLICAN TURNOUT STRATEGY HERE WE KNOW WHAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN DOING AND THIS WHOLE STRATEGY OF GETTING THESE NON FREQUENT VOTERS, WE KNOW THAT THAT IS THAT IS THE GAME FOR THEM IN FLORIDA AND PENNSYLVANIA AND NORTH CAROLINA ARIZONA I HEAR THAT ALL THE TIME. WHAT IS THE REPUBLICAN PLAN TO MATCH. >> WE'VE ALWAYS SAID WHERE MARICOPA COUNTY GOES THE STATE GOES AND YET THERE'S TO SORT SEND A RECOGNITION THAT THEY MAY LOSE THE DONALD TRUMP CAMPAIGN MAY LOSE. MARICOPA COUNTY AND IF IN FACT THEY HAVE DEFICIT HERE. YOU HAVE TO TURN OUT YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR SUPPORT OUT IN THE RURAL PARTS OF THE STATE AND THAT IS WHY THE PRESIDENT I WAS IMPRESSED GETTING YAVAPAI COUNTY A COUNTY THAT HE WON BY A 2 TO ONE MARGIN BACK 4 YEARS AGO AND YOU KNOW WHEN WE SAY THAT AND WHERE MARICOPA COUNTY GOES THE STATE OF ARIZONA GOES WE SAY THAT BECAUSE IN THE LAST DECADE THERE'S BEEN ONLY ONE INDIVIDUAL AND THAT WAS A WOMAN WHO RAN FOR THE STATE SUPERINTENDENT OF PUBLIC INSTRUCTION LOST BY 1600 VOTES IN MARICOPA COUNTY. BUT SHE WON STATEWIDE AND YET WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS DATA THE DATA OF SENIORS IN MARICOPA COUNTY. THE DATA OF INDEPENDENCE, THE DATE OF SUBURBS. EVERYTHING DONALD TRUMP IS LOSING ANYWHERE FROM 2 POINTS TO 10 POINTS IN THOSE DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS. IT IS HARD TO SEE HIM WINNING MARICOPA COUNTY AT THIS POINT THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT HE TOO SAYS IT IS THAT REAL TURN OUT THE QUESTION IS ARE THERE ENOUGH OF THOSE VOTERS OUT IN THOSE PLACES ACTUALLY DO THAT YOU JUST GAVE THE MOST IMPORTANT STAT. >> ONE STATEWIDE CANDIDATE IS AT ONCE DAYLIGHT CANDIDATE THIS CENTURY. AS PULL THAT OFF WHAT YOU JUST WAS MARICOPA YEAH IN THE LAST DECADE HERE. YES, OKAY SO 10 YEARS. THERE YOU GO. VAUGHN HILLYARD THANK YOU SIR, ARIZONA IS STILL THOUGH VERY KEY TO THE PRESIDENT TRUMP. THE PATH TO HOLDING THE WHITE HOUSE IN FACT LET'S TAKE A LOOK. THINGS HAVE NARROWED A BIT HERE AND LOOK I'M GONNA JUST EXPLAIN AS I GOT THIS DOWN TO 4 STATES HERE FOR A SECOND BECAUSE BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN NEARLY AN 8 TO 10 POINT LEAD HERE FOR JOE BIDEN IN MICHIGAN, WISCONSIN IS A BIT CLOSER BUT IT ALSO SEEMS TO BE STEADY AND THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN THEMSELVES SEEMS TO THINK MICHIGAN WISCONSIN NOT LOOKING SO GOOD SO IF YOU TAKE THAT AWAY. WELL THEN DONALD TRUMP SUDDENLY HAS A VERY VERY NARROW PATH TO THE WHITE HOUSE. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE LAST 4 STATES BEING FLORIDA NORTH CAROLINA PENNSYLVANIA, ARIZONA, AND FRANKLY WHEN YOU TALK TO BOTH CAMPAIGNS. THESE SEEM TO BE THE 4 MOST CRITICAL. LOOK FOR BIDEN US. HE SAID 66 WE'VE FOR STATES. HE'S GOT 4 PASS. ARIZONA IS ENOUGH. TAKE ARIZONA WAY FI. THEN YOU HAVE PENNSYLVANIA WOULD BE ENOUGH TO WANT TO TAKE PENNSYLVANIA AWAY NORTH CAROLINA WOULD BE ENOUGH WANT TO TAKE NORTH CAROLINA WAY, FLORIDA WOULD BE ENOUGH. BUT HERE'S THE THING DONALD TRUMP NEEDS ALL OF THIS AND ARIZONA IN ORDER TO PULL THIS OFF AND THAT JUST GETS HIM TO 2.72. IT IS VERY NARROW THE POINT IS THIS THE PRESIDENT'S PATH NOW. WHEN YOU LIMIT THOSE TO ITS FLORIDA AND NORTH CAROLINA AND PENNSYLVANIA. AN ARIZONA. AND YOU JUST ON HOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MARICOPA COUNTY. THIS PATH IS MORE TREACHEROUS BY THE DAY FOR DONALD TRUMP. WHEN WE COME BACK. SOME FINAL THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS MAP AND THE DAY. >> THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE THE STATE CONTINUES TO STRUGGLE TO EXPAND ITS TESTING CAPABILITIES. ♪ >> THEY NEED TO COME OUT IN FULL FORCE AND SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE NOT GETTING THAT THE COURTS FROM POLICE. ♪ ELECTION DAY COMING UP AGAINST THE BACK DROP OUT OF VOTERS SAFE AMID A PANDEMIC. ♪ >> THE MOMENT THAT REALLY UNDERSTAND WHO WE ARE WHO WE SAY ♪ >> WE ARE IS RIGHT HERE AT OUR FEET. >> YOU GOT TO GET A FOUR-YEAR FOR YOU TO BE A SUPER EXPENSIVE WE HAVE CREATED A SYSTEM WHERE THE TICKET TO THE MIDDLE CLASS IS A THING THAT MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES HAVE TO STRESS ABOUT AND BORROW FOR AND PATCHED TOGETHER. >> WHY IS THIS HAPPENING WITH CHRIS HAYES SUBSCRIBE NOW. ♪ >> YOU'RE WATCHING NBC NEWS NOW GOT SOME BREAKING NEWS. WE ACTUALLY SAW LARGE CONVOY NATIONAL GUARD ♪ >> TO WAS MADE FOR YOUR STREAMING WORLD. STARTING AT 06:00AM EASTERN. ♪ >> THIS MORNING ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH THE NEW NORMAL FOR SCHOOLS WILL LOOK LIKE MANY TEACHERS LEFT MAKING TOUGH CHOICES BETWEEN THE JOB THE MY CHILDREN HAVE A JOB THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE DECISION YOU'RE CREATING A LITTLE COMMUNITY SCHOOL THIS IS SOME OF WHAT WE CELLS DEVELOP AND LET'S TURN IT OVER TO STUDENTS HOW THEY REALLY FEEL ABOUT RETURNING TO ♪ >> SCHOOL AND THIS RIGHT TO CHOOSE OR REALLY HIM. >> THE SURGE IN CORONAVIRUS INFECTION DEVELOP AND SO ON SEVERAL FRONTS STORY TONIGHT THE U.S. SHATTERING THE RECORD FOR MOST COVID CASES IN A SINGLE DAY FROM THE ANGLE, YOU LOOK CONCERNED THAT THE KIDS WE'VE BEEN TOLD ARE THE HOME CAN DEFINITELY WON'T BE ABLE TO CATCH ON THE GROUND YOU HAVE FAITH THAT THIS IS GOING TO BRING ABOUT CHANGE SOON AND DEATHS. ♪ >> PROTESTS EXPECTED TONIGHT YOU THINK THAT POLICE IN THIS COUNTRY ARE UNDER ATTACK. AND DC NIGHTLY NEWS WITH ♪ LESTER HOLT. >> THE NEWS BUSINESS IS DYNAMIC AND PROBABLY HAS NEVER BEEN MORE IMPORTANT WITH ALL THAT WE'RE FACING I AM SO PROUD TO BRING THE PERSPECTIVE OF A BLACK WOMAN, A DAUGHTER OF IMMIGRANTS, THE WIFE AND MOTHER OF A HUSBAND AND KIDS WHO SADLY ARE MORE VULNERABLE TO POLICE VIOLENCE BECAUSE OF THEIR COLOR. A PROUD NERD AND A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE EMERGING AMERICA TO CABLE TV NEWS. I HOPE THE GREAT GWEN EIFFEL AND MY MOM PHILOMENA CAROL AMINA WILL LOOK DOWN FROM HEAVEN AND BE PROUD. ♪ >> WELCOME BACK TO NBC NEWS A SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE RIGHT HERE ON ABC NEWS >> MORE ON WHAT TO WATCH FOR TONIGHT AND ON ELECTION NIGHT LET'S BRING BACK CASEY ♪ >> HUNT, JOSH JOHNSON AND MICHAEL BESCHLOSS OKC HIGH. THOSE FINAL 4 STATES IT DOES FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE FINAL 4 THAT WERE AT LEAST THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN HAS IT WHEN YOU START TO JUST TEAR IT DOWN LIKE THAT. THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN NEEDS TO FIND MORE STATES THAT CANNOT BE THEIR ONLY THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SWEEP THOSE 4. LOSING YOU KNOW SORT OF WRITING OFF MICHIGAN AND WISCONSIN TO BIG A BIT OF A PROBLEM. IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM. >> CHUCK FOR SURE AND YOU KNOW THAT'S WHY A NICE START TO DIG INTO EACH INDIVIDUAL STATE IN THE SCENARIOS WAS GOING ON, BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY THE QUESTION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ANSWER HERE AND THAT WE ALL ARE ARE WONDERING ABOUT IS HOW HOW MUCH OF THIS IS GOING TO BE A WAVE OR RATHER HOW BIG IS THE WAVE GOING TO BE BECAUSE WE COULD EASILY SEE SOMETHING ON ELECTION NIGHT. AND I THINK WE'RE ALL BEING VERY CAREFUL NOT TO REPEAT THE MISTAKES THAT WERE MADE IN 2016. WHERE EVER WE ARE TALKING TO ASSUMES THAT HILLARY CLINTON WAS GOING TO WIN THE ELECTION AND I THINK I CERTAINLY HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF BEING RIDICULED BY HILARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN OPERATIVES WHEN I SUGGESTED ANYTHING OTHER THEN THAT SURE ON CONCLUSION AND SO I THINK WE'RE ALL A LITTLE OLD. YOU KNOW TRY TO BE A LITTLE CAREFUL HERE AND THAT'S WARRANTED. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND WE'RE SEEING AN AWFUL LOT OF INFORMATION THAT SUGGESTS THAT YES WE CAN HAVE AN IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION ABOUT MARICOPA COUNTY BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE IS HAPPENING EVERYWHERE AND WHILE YES, THE SUN BELT STATES ARE PLACES WHERE PRESIDENT TRUMP CAN STILL FIGHT, YOU KNOW I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A REAL QUESTION AND FLORIDA, YOU KNOW IT'S GOING HELP US ANSWER THAT ON ELECTION NIGHT ITSELF. I THINK WE'LL START TO LEARN FROM FROM THOSE BALLOTS IN FLORIDA WHETHER WE'RE IN FOR A LONG NIGHT WEEKS MONTHS OR WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE WAVE. >> AND JOSHUA THAT PATH THAT I JUST THAT LAST PATH THERE FOR DONALD TRUMP. THIS ASSUMES THAT HE RECOVERS IN IOWA, HE RECOVERS IN OHIO HE RECOVERS IN IT AND YOU KNOW HE'S BEHIND ACTUALLY. >> IN IOWA. HE'S CAUGHT IS ABOUT EVEN IN OHIO, SO IF THIS ASSUMES THAT HE SOMEHOW RECOVERS AND THAT'S THAT FINAL PATH THERE. TIME WITH CASEY THERE'S A LOT MORE EVIDENCE THAT POINTS TO THIS LOOKING MORE LIKE 1988, THEN EVEN 2008. >> I DO THINK THAT FLORIDA IS GOING TO BE VERY TELLING AS IT IS ALWAYS TELLING I KNOW ARE LEAVING EARLY VOTER TURNOUT THIS WEEK IS EARLY VOTING BEGAN THIS WEEK FLORIDA. SOME OF THE PICTURES IN LIKE PINE CREST AND MIRAMAR AND PARTS OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. PROGRESS MIRAMAR IN SOUTH FLORIDA HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IN CENTRAL FLORIDA WE'RE JUST DOWN THE BLOCK AND AROUND THE CORNER I VOTED EARLY AND WHAT I'VE NEVER SEEN PEOPLE WHAT THAT FORCE O OUT ME FASCINATED TO SEE WHAT FLORIDA LOOKS LIKE IF I COULD JUST REFERENCE ONE THING THAT CAME UP IN CHRIS JANSING CONVERSATION WITH 3 SISTERS IN ATLANTA. I THINK WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY WAS SO VALUABLE AS THEY WERE SAYING IT WAS LIKE THE KEY AND I HOPE HE'S PAYING ATTENTION BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT JUST SAME FUNDS DECIDED VOTERS I THINK A BETTER TERM FOR THEM IS UNCOMMITTED VOTERS, WHY YOU NEED TO TELL ME WE AS BLACK FOLKS GOING TO BE RIDE OR DIE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY FOR GENERATIONS BECAUSE LET'S BE HONEST MANY AFRICAN AMERICANS DON'T CONSIDER THERE WILL BE 2 VIABLE ALTERNATIVES AS IT RELATES TO THINGS LIKE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND RACIAL JUSTICE AND WE'LL BE RIGHT FOR YOU FOR ALL THESE YEARS AND DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO DISRESPECT SHOE ON THE WORLD STAGE ON SOMETHING THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE HELD NO DECENT AND IN ORDER AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA SAY ANYTHING YOU JUST LET HIM DO SO YOU LET HIM THAT TO YOU WHAT DOES THAT MEAN A LOT WHAT HE'S DOING TO BLACK FOLKS IN THEIR COMMUNITY. I THINK WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS VERY. PRESSURE I THINK A LOT OF BIDEN SUPPORTERS FEEL THE SAME WAY BUT JUST ARTICULATED QUITE THAT WAY. >> I LOOK AT IT RESONATED IT RESONATED I THOUGHT IT RESONATED TO I'M GLAD YOU YOU YOU GET A CALL BACK TO THAT. MICHAEL FOR SITTING HERE OCTOBER 22ND. AND I AND I KNOW WHAT I KNOW YOU CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION COULD YOUR YOUR BRAIN WORKS THIS WAY. OR IS THERE ANY HISTORICAL COROLLARY WHERE WE'RE AT WITH AN INCUMBENT PRESIDENT WHERE HE'S AT. THIS CLOSE TO AN AND AND AND THEY SOMEHOW PULL OFF A MIRACLE. >> YOU KNOW GEORGE BUSH 2004 WAS RUNNING TIED OR BEHIND AND ON THE FRIDAY BEFORE THE ELECTION AS YOU WELL KNOW THERE WAS AN OSAMA BIN LADEN TAPE THAT THE POLLS FOUND REMIND THE PEOPLE OF BUSH'S COMMITMENT TO FIGHTING TERRORISM AND AS YOU KNOW THE 2004 ELECTION CHALK WAS ONE BASICALLY BY 30,000 VOTES IN THE STATE OF OHIO. SO IF YOU THINK THAT THAT TAPE MAY HAVE CHANGED MORE THAN 30,000 MINES, THEN YOU HAVE AN OCTOBER SURPRISE FOR DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION THAT CHANGED THE RESULT, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING I FOR TONIGHT BUT ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN THAT MAY MIX THIS UP. >> WHAT IS WHEN YOU ARE WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE WATCHING THIS MICHAEL. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO WATCH THIS DEBATE TONIGHT AND IF. WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT TO SEE HAPPEN. >> WELL WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NEW SIDES OF THESE 2 CANDIDATES THAT'S PRETTY HARD WHEN YOU'VE GOT SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN PRESIDENT FOR 4 YEARS AND SOMEONE WHO WAS VICE PRESIDENT FOR 8 YEARS FROM DONALD TRUMP'S POINT OF VIEW. HE'S GOT A BIG OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT. RONALD REAGAN IN 1980 WAS DEBATING AGAINST JIMMY CARTER THERE WAS ONLY ONE DEBATE AND IT WAS 9 DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION HERE. WE ARE TONIGHT 12 DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION. AND REAGAN AND CARTER WERE JUST ABOUT TIED THERE WAS ABOUT 10% UNDECIDED AND REAGAN'S GOAL THAT NIGHT WAS TO TAKE THAT AND DECIDE WHICH WAS PRESIDENT ABOUT JIMMY CARTER AND SAY I RONALD REAGAN, I'M NOT GOING TO GET TOO INVOLVED A WAR AND I AM OF THE STATURE THAT CAN BE AN EFFECTIVE PRESIDENT IN THE AD THIS POLISHED PERFORMANCE THAT WAS SO SUCCESSFUL THAT ALMOST THAT WHOLE 10% MOVED INTO THE REAGAN KEPT A REAGAN LANDSLIDE, THAT'S HOW YOU USE THE LAST DEBATE IS DONALD TRUMP DISCIPLINED ENOUGH TO DO THAT TONIGHT EVEN IF HE HAS A POLISH PRESIDENTIAL PERFORMANCE IS THAT GOING TO MAKE PEOPLE FORGET THAT FIRST DEBATE A LOT OF THE UNPRESIDENTIAL STOPPED FROM THE LAST 4 YEARS ON NOT SO SURE. >> CASEY I I TELL YOU YOU KNOW. KRISTEN WELKER'S PICKED OUT SOME GOOD TOPICS, I'D LOVE FOR INSTANCE TO SEE TONIGHT A BACK AND FORTH NATIONAL MASK MANDATE, I'D LOVE TO SEE IT BACK AND FORTH OVER. WHAT WOULD A NEW HEALTH CARE PLAN LOOK LIKE MISTER PRESIDENT I'D LOVE TO SEE IT BACK AND FORTH OVER HOW BIG SHOULD THE STIMULUS P THE CHANCES THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO A VOTER. LIKE ME THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE SORT OF THAT BACK AND FORTH FOR THE CHANCES, WE GET THAT TONIGHT. >> WELL CHECK YOUR RIGHT THAT THERE ARE INCREDIBLE POLICY IT QUESTIONS AT HAND THAT THE NATION NEEDS TO HAVE ANSWERED. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ABOUT THAT AND PERHAPS MORE AND MORE THAN EVER IN OUR HISTORY AS WE FACE DOWN THIS THIS ONCE IN A LIFETIME. A PANDEMIC BUT I THINK WE'VE FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP. YOU KNOW AN INABILITY TO SEPARATE HIS PERSONALITY AND HIS SORT OF IT NO MATTER WHAT EVEN HIS CAMPAIGN IS TELLING HIM ABOUT HOW HE'S GOING TO PERFORM AND I WOULD BE SURPRISED AND I MEAN MICHAEL BESCHLOSS WHAT'S YOUR ASSESSMENT IT WHAT IS YOUR ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION BECAUSE I GOT TO SAY I'M VERY SKEPTICAL THAT THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP IS CAPABLE OF HAVING A EVEN THOUGH THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE THE CONVERSATION. >> THE BRING SOME OF HIS REPUBLICAN VOTERS HOME IN THESE LAST COUPLE IF THAT'S EVEN STILL POSSIBLE. >> IF I WERE HIS CAMPAIGN CONSULTANT AND GOD HELP US ALL IF I WERE YOU KNOW I WOULD SAY THANK YOU CAN DO TONIGHT TO HELP YOURSELF IS TO TRY TO TURN IN A LOT THE REAGAN TYPE PRESIDENTIAL PERFORMANCE AS REAGAN SHOWED A 1980 TO DISPEL THE WORRIES OF PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE ON OF CONTROL I DO NOT THINK FROM THE EVIDENCE THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS IS CAPABLE OF DOING THAT TONIGHT THIS IS MUCH MORE ABOUT IS YOU KNOW EXPRESSING HIMSELF IN EXPRESSING HIS GRIEVANCES AND IT MAY GIVE HIM MOMENTARY RELIEF BUT IF HE DOES THAT TONIGHT HE WILL KICK THE WAY THE LAST AT LEAST CONVENTIONAL OPPORTUNITY HAS TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HELP HIMSELF IN THIS RACE. >> WELL JOSH JOHNSON AND YOU KNOW ONE OTHER THING THAT THAT I HAVE IN THE BACK OF MY MIND HERE IS HOW REPUBLICANS ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN CONGRESS AND ELSEWHERE ARE WATCHING WHAT'S GOING TO UNFOLD. TONIGHT, THEY'RE HOPING THAT FRANKLY THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T TAKE THEM FURTHER DOWN THAT HE ALREADY HAS. >> AND WAS A LOT OF REPORTING THE LAST FEW WEEKS. IT'S USUALLY ABOUT SOME REPUBLICANS HOLDING THEIR NOSES IN TERMS OF WHAT THEIR FUTURES BY LOOK LIKE OR WHETHER CASTING THEIR LOT IN WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP BY BITE THEM IN THE END I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW MUCH THE CANDIDATES MAKE THE CASE THAT YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR ME AS OPPOSED TO AGAINST THE OTHER PERSON I'VE SAID THIS ABRAHAM LINCOLN QUOTE A 100 TIMES THIS IS A 101ST WITH PUBLIC SENTIMENT NOTHING CAN FAIL WITHOUT IT NOTHING CAN SUCCEED. AND I'M INTERESTED IN SEEING WHETHER THE CANDIDATES BUILDING PUBLIC SENTIMENT TO SAY YEAH I'M GOING TO BE THE KIND OF PRESIDENT WHO BUILD AN AMERICA THAT YOU CAN BE PROUD OF AS OPPOSED TO LET ME SHOW YOU ALL THE REASONS THAT YOU SHOULD NOT BE PAYING ATTENTION TO ANOTHER PERSON BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I THINK A LOT OF REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS WANTS TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS WITH AND SAY SEE THIS IS THE KIND OF PRESIDENT THAT CAN BUILD US THE KIND OF FUTURE THAT AMERICA NEEDS BUT I'M GOING TO BE I'M SURE LOOKING FOR THAT THROUGH A FOG OF LOTS OF OTHER THINGS THAT I'M SURE KRISTEN WELKER IS NOW PERFECTLY CAPABLE OF HANDLING SHE'LL DRESS THAT WAS SITTING AT HOME. SHE IS GOING TO DO. >> I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE GOING TO HAVE DO AN ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL JOB TONIGHT, I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE HERE AT THIS DEBATE AT FOR THE SAKE OF ALL US THANKS FOR BEING WITH US THIS HOUR NBC NEWS COVERAGE OF THE FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE BETWEEN PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP JOE BIDEN THE STAGE FRIGHT ONE LAST DEBATE. >> EARLY VOTING WELL UNDER WAY AND MILLIONS OF BALLOTS ALREADY CAST. THERE'S NO ADMINISTRATION THAT'S ACCOMPLISHED. WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED PREACHES UNITY OVER DIVISION SIDES OTHER FACTIONS, THE CANDIDATES MAKE THEIR CLOSING ARGUMENTS TO A NATION STRUGGLING WITH THE PANDEMIC ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY AND DEEP DIVISION JUST 12 DAYS BEFORE ELECTION DAY STAND UP AND TAKE BACK OUR DEMOCRACY. WE ARE GOING TO KEEP ON WINNING WINNING. ♪ ♪ >> FROM NBC DECISION 2020. PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES, YEAR-OLD LESTER HOLT AND SAVANNAH GUTHRIE. ♪ >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE AND WELCOME TO OUR COVERAGE OF THE SECOND AND FINAL 2020 PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE REPUBLICAN INCUMBENT PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP AND DEMOCRATIC CHALLENGER, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN ARE ABOUT TO FACE OFF FOR THE LAST TIME WITH THE ELECTION. NOW JUST 12 DAYS AWAY, THE STAKES ARE HIGHER THAN EVER AND TONIGHT IS THE BEST LAST CHANCE FOR THE CANDIDATES TO MAKE THEIR CASE TO A NATIONAL AUDIENCE BEFORE ELECTION DAY ON NOVEMBER, 3RD, SO THE CANDIDATES ARE GOING TO TAKE THE STAGE IN JUST OVER AN HOUR THERE IT IS BELMONT UNIVERSITY IN NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE. >> YOU MAY REMEMBER THE FIRST DEBATE IT WAS CHAOTIC TO SAY THE LEAST LOTS OF INTERACTIONS WITH THIS TIME THE COMMISSION ON PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES HAS CHANGED THE RULES OF THIS EXCITED USE THE MICROPHONE AND THE CANDIDATE WHO IS NOT SPEAKING FOR THE FIRST 2 MINUTES OF EACH SEPARATE DEBATE, THE TOPIC AND OF COURSE THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC IS SURE TO BE FRONT AND CENTER TONIGHT LAST WEEK SCHEDULE DEBATE. CANCELED AFTER PRESIDENT TRUMP CONTRACTED THE VIRUS AND REFUSED TO DEBATE VIRTUALLY. NBC'S WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT AND WEEKEND TODAY ANCHOR CHRISTIAN WALKER IS MODERATING TONIGHT'S DEBATE. THE DEBATE DEBATE COMMISSION HAS SAID SHE WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FACT CHECKING THE CANDIDATES IN REAL TIME. BUT OUR TEAM OF CORRESPONDENTS AND ANALYSTS ARE STANDING BY TO DO JUST THAT AND IF YOU WANT FACT CHECKING AS WE GO TONIGHT, YOU CAN ALWAYS GO TO NBC NEWS DOT COM ALL RIGHT. WHY DON'T WE START WITH NBC'S CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT HALLIE JACKSON SHE'S INSIDE THE OF THE EVENT CENTER ON ♪ THE CAMPUS OF BELMONT UNIVERSITY IN NASHVILLE HALEIGH. >> LET'S TALK STRATEGY FOR THESE 2 CANDIDATES HEADING INTO WHAT IS THE FINAL FACEOFF AND PERHAPS THE FINAL BEST CHANCE TO MOVE VOTERS THEIR DIRECTION FOR EACH OF THESE CANDIDATES THAT'S PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP BECAUSE HE IS TRAILING IN MANY POLLS SO TONIGHT AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN FRONT OF POTENTIALLY 10'S OF MILLIONS OF VOTERS THIS STRATEGY THERE ARE REPORTING INDICATES THAT AIDES AND ALLIES HAVE BEEN COUNSELING THE PRESIDENT TO INTERRUPT LESS THIS TIME THAT HE DID PREVIOUSLY YOU INTO REFERENCE THE CHAOTIC DEBATE. THE FIRST GO AROUND THERE IS A SENSE AMONG THOSE CLOSE TO THE PRESIDENT THAT BY LETTING JOE BIDEN SPEAK UNINTERRUPTED. HE MAY POTENTIALLY STUMBLE OR PERHAPS CREATE SOME KIND OF AGHAST THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP COULD THEN CAPITALIZE ON YOU ALSO HAVE THE PRESIDENT IT SEEMS ON HUNTER BIDEN JOE BIDEN'S SON AND HIS DEALINGS OVERSEES THESE UNVERIFIED E-MAILS MANY INTELLIGENCE EXPERTS HAVE SAID THOSE E-MAILS CARRY ALL THE HARM ARE HALLMARKS RATHER OF A DIS INFORMATION FOR IN DIS INFORMATION CAMPAIGN ESSENTIALLY BUT THE PRESIDENT'S GUEST LIST INDICATES THAT IS DIRECTION HE'S PROBABLY GOT AHEAD TONIGHT TO TRY TO ATTACK BIDEN ONE OF HIS GUEST IS GOING TO BE A FORMER BUSINESS PARTNER OF JOE BIDEN'S SON BIDEN FOR HIS PART. ACCORDING TO SOURCES CLOSE TO HIS CAMPAIGN APPEARS READY FOR THOSE ATTACKS. JOE BIDEN AND HIS TEAM WANT TO ESSENTIALLY FLIPPED THE SCRIPT IF YOU WILL AND MAKE THE CASE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP'S FOCUS MORE ON BIDEN'S FAMILY THEN AMERICAN FAMILIES BIDEN WILL LIKELY JOE BIDEN OF COURSE THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT FOCUS INTENTLY ON THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC CONTINUING TO LITIGATE THE CASE THAT THE PRESIDENT AND HIS ADMINISTRATION'S RESPONSE HAS NOT BEEN SUFFICIENT ON THE COVID SITUATION I SHOULD TELL YOU BOTH CANDIDATES, ACCORDING TO THEIR AIDS HAVE TESTED NEGATIVE FOR CORONAVIRUS TODAY AND LET ME POINT OUT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE DEBATE HALL EARLIER TODAY THERE WAS PLEXIGLAS BETWEEN THESE PODIUMS AS IT ESSENTIALLY PRECAUTION. THE COMMISSION ON PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES SAYS THAT PLEXIGLASS HAS NOW BEEN REMOVED BECAUSE OF BOTH CANDIDATES, NEGATIVE TESTS SO THAT IS SOMETHING NEW THAT HAS DEVELOPED JUST IN THE LAST LITTLE BIT HERE AS WE TALK ABOUT THE WAY THAT THE DEBATE WILL GO TONIGHT. THERE WILL BE OF COURSE 6 SEGMENTS 6 DIFFERENT TOPICS 15 MINUTES EACH AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH OF THOSE SEGMENTS EACH CANDIDATE WILL GET 2 MINUTES OF UNINTERRUPTED TALK TIME THAT'S THE NEW RULE CHANGE THAT YOU DISCUSSED AT THE TOP OF THE BROADCAST HERE AFTER THAT THERE WILL BE OPEN DEBATE AND WE SHOULD POINT OUT IT'S NOT THE MODERATOR WHO IS CONTROLLING THE MICROPHONES THAT IS UP TO THE COMMISSION ON PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES. 6 TOPICS WILL BE DISCUSSED TONIGHT STARTING WITH CORONAVIRUS AND THE RESPONSE TO THAT AMERICAN FAMILIES RACE IN AMERICA CLIMATE CHANGE NATIONAL SECURITY AND LEADERSHIP IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY BUSY 90 MINUTES ALL SET TO KICK OFF HERE IN NASHVILLE IN JUST A BIT ALRIGHT, HOW YOU GOT GOOD SEATS TO LET'S GET RIGHT TO NBC NEWS POLITICAL DIRECTOR AND MODERATOR OF MEET THE PRESS CHUCK TODD >> TO PUT IT MILDLY A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THE FIRST DEBATE AT THE SECOND DEBATE WAS CANCELED FOR STARTERS, THE PRESIDENT GOT COVID AND RECOVERED FROM COVID THERE ARE FEW MOMENTS IN A CAMPAIGN BIG BIG MOMENTS. A DEBATE IS ONE OF THEM. THIS IS THE FINAL DEBATE WE'VE GOT 12 DAYS TO GO WHAT ARE THE STAKES. >> WELL THIS TAKES YOU KNOW WE CAN USE EVERY METAPHOR YOU I COULDN'T BE HIGHER ALL OF THOSE THINGS BECAUSE OF THE PRECARIOUS POSITION, THE INCUMBENT PRESIDENT IS SITTING IN. HE IS TRAILING HE IS BEHIND HE NEEDS TO CHANGE THE TRAJECTORY OF THIS RACE AND SO I THINK IT DOES EXPLAIN THE PRESIDENT'S BEHAVIOR OF THE LAST 48 HOURS. BUT BY THE WAY IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING HOW NASTY THIS DEBATE COULD GET BACK AND FORTH TONIGHT. THE RALLY REFERRED TO THE PRESIDENT'S OBSESSION AND HUNTER BIDEN THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN RESPONDED TONIGHT AND I JUST WANT TO READ YOU THIS LAST LINE BECAUSE I THINK IT SETS THE TONE OF WHAT WE COULD BE HEARING FROM THE NIGHT. ON THE HOTTER BY THE TAX IS WHAT THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN SAYS THIS IS A DESPERATE PATHETIC FARCE EXECUTED BY FLAILING CAMPAIGN WITH NO RATIONALE FOR PUTTING OUR COUNTRY THROUGH ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF HELP. I AM QUOTING THEM WORD FOR WORD, I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO PUT THEY HA DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS UP THERE MYSELF THE SAVANNAH, I HOUSE YOU KNOW, I'M PRETTY SENSITIVE TO THAT, BUT MY POINT IS THAT CAME FROM THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN IN RESPONSE TO THIS HUNTER BIDEN THAT TO ME IS THE UNKNOWN THAT'S THE WILD CARD FACTOR TONIGHT. I DON'T THINK PEOPLE WATCHING WANT TO SEE A BACK AND FORTH ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN TONIGHT. BUT WE THAT MAY END UP BEING WHAT WE SEE TONIGHT AND THAT TO ME IS AN EXTRAORDINARILY RISKY STRATEGY BY THE PRESIDENT I DO THINK THE PRESIDENT NEEDS TO REMEMBER HE'S INCUMBENT AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO. FOR THE NEXT 4 YEARS AND BY THE WAY WHAT DO DO NOW ABOUT COVID WHAT DO YOU DO NOW ABOUT HEALTH CARE. SO I DO THINK THIS IS A VERY RISKY STRATEGY BY THE PRESIDENT TO BASICALLY IGNORE THE ISSUES AND TRY TO GO THE 100 BY ALL RIGHT CHUCK, THANK YOU ALL RIGHT, ALSO HAVE SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT ANDREA MITCHELL WITH US TONIGHT, ANDREA WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE WATCHING FOR THIS EVENING. >> WELL I'M GOING TO WATCHING WHETHER THE PRESIDENT HAS COME PREPARED TO DISCUSS POLICY WHETHER HE'S GOING TO TRY TO BLOW THIS DEBATE UP AS HE DID THE FIRST DEBATE WHETHER HE'S GOING TO ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THE SUBSTANTIVE ISSUES THAT CHUCK JUST REFERRED TO IMPORTANT ISSUES COVID OBVIOUSLY THE MOST IMPORTANT OBVIOUSLY THE AMERICAN FAMILY WHICH INCLUDES ECONOMY NATIONAL SECURITY. THE ENVIRONMENT RACE RELATIONS IS HE GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT ANSWER ON WHITE SUPREMACISM HE'S EVEN GO ON THE ATTACK CLEARLY SIGNALING BY BREE TONY MOVEMENT'S KEY THIS. PARTNER SUPPOSEDLY WITH HUNTER PARTNER HUNTER BIDEN TO THE DEBATE WHO HAD A NEWS CONFERENCE WITH THE WITH THE TRAVELING WHITE HOUSE PRESS CORPS RIGHT BEFOREHAND BY FREEING HIM RIGHT THERE AS A SPECIAL GUEST, IT REMINDS YOU OF WHAT HE DID DURING THE LAST DEBATE AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON BRING THE WOMEN WHO ACCUSED BILL CLINTON OF PAST AFFAIRS AND MORNING HAD TO BE SEATED IN THE FRONT ROW RIGHT THERE IN LAS VEGAS FROM THE WALL THERE SO THIS IS A STUNT AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY SET OFF THAT ANGRY REACTION FROM THE BIDEN CAMP THAT TRUCK JUST READ SO THAT'S THE SETTING A VERY BAD TONE GOING IN, BUT IF HE COMES READY TO DISCUSS POLICY AND HOW WILL BUT JOE BIDEN RESPOND WHEN THE PERSON ISSUE COMES OUT WE KEEP HIS COOL IS HE PREPARED GET PAST IT AND TALK ABOUT THE SUBSTANCE THAT HE IS BRINGING TO THIS AND JUST WATCHING THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS SO DOES NOT BODE WELL BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT SPENT THE LAST COUPLE DAYS GOING ON THE ATTACK AGAINST EVERYONE AGAINST TONY FAUCI AGAINST A TO LESLEY STAHL ON 60 MINUTES AGAINST ALL SORTS OF ENEMIES PERCEIVED OR REAL AND ADVERSARIES SIDE ACCUSING BIDEN OF CRIMINALITY AND SAYING THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. PERHAPS SHOULDN'T KEEP HIS JOB BECAUSE HE'S REFUSING TO INDICT. JOE BIDEN STANDING OPPOSITE HIM ON THE DEBATE STAGE TONIGHT INDICT HIM FOR SOME SORT TOTALLY FOR FALSE ALLEGATIONS SO THAT'S THAT'S THE PROBLEM GOING INTO THIS HE HAS REALLY SENT A VERY BAD STAGE BUT PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR WHAT HE WOULD DO IN A SECOND TERM AND JOE BIDEN HAS SPENT THE WHOLE WEEK IN DEBATE PREPARATIONS. HAVING A VERY TOUGH TARGET AND A VERY EFFECTIVE ONE FOR ROCK OBAMA IN PHILADELPHIA YESTERDAY WITH HIS STRONGEST ON STATION OF THE PRESIDENT TO DATE. SO WE'VE SEEN THEM BOTH VERY ANGRY BUT TO PASS PREPARING FOR THIS DEBATE IN VERY DIFFERENT WAY. NOW LET'S SEE WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE A REAL DEBATE ALL RIGHT ANDREA MITCHELL. THANK YOU ALL RIGHT, LET'S TURN NOW GET SOME PERSPECTIVE FROM RADIO TALK SHOW HOST HUGH HEWITT HE'S AN NBC NEWS POLITICAL ANALYST PRESIDENT OF THE RICHARD NIXON FOUNDATION IS ALSO A TRUMP SUPPORTER AND YOU OKAY, THIS IS YOUR BIG CHANCE JUST IN CASE THE PRESIDENT IS WATCHING IF YOU WERE ADVISING HIM TONIGHT. >> WHAT WOULD YOUR MESSAGE BE WHAT SHOULD HE FOCUS ON HUNTER BIDEN THE ISSUES JOE BIDEN. >> WHAT WOULD YOU SAY. >> I NOT TALK ABOUT SOMETHING IN WISCONSIN. I BELIEVE THE PRESIDENT IS DOING WELL IN ALL THE OTHER SWING STATES NORTH CAROLINA MAYBE TALK SPECIFICALLY THE KEYSTONE STATE IN WISCONSIN ABOUT THE UPCOMING GDP REPORT ABOUT THE DROP IN JOBLESS CAN CLAIMS THIS WEEK AND FOCUS ON THE ECONOMY, THE ECONOMY, THE ECONOMY NOW THE SUPER V IS BACK. I DON'T THINK WANTING TO GET OUT OF THIS WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT THE LEWINSKY TALK I I'M RUNNING A RADIO SHOW SAME TIME TALKING TO YOU THE COUNTRY TALKING ABOUT TOWN IN THE COUNTRY TALKING JOANIE EVEN AS THEY LEAN IN TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IS ALL BUT THE PRESIDENT WOULD BE BEST SERVED IF HE STAYED FOCUSED ON WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA AND SOUTHERN WISCONSIN AND TALKED ABOUT THE THOSE 2 KEY STATES TO HIS REELECTION BID HEWLETT ME TO TALK ABOUT STYLE THE PRESIDENT HAD LOST SOME STYLE POINTS LAST TIME BY INTERRUPTING AT THE SAME TIME THAT'S PART OF REALLY WHO HE IS A DISRUPTER A BRAWLER SOME TIME SO HOW. >> IF HE IS CONSTRAINED AND NOT ABLE TO DO THAT WILL HE BE OUT OF HIS GAME TO SOME EXTENT. >> THE 2 MINUTE WARNING SAYING THAT THEY'RE GIVING THEM 2 MINUTES TO TALK. IT'S GOING TO FORCE HIM ACTUALLY TO MAKE SURE HE HAS MESSAGE POINTS LINED UP FOR THOSE 2 MINUTES, YOU CLEARLY IN THE FIRST DEBATE INTENDED THROWN FOR VICE PRESIDENT THOSE GAME BY DISRUPTING WHATEVER PLAN THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT THAT'S TONIGHT. GOT A LOT MORE DIRECTLY IN THE CAMERA I WAS WAS ON MY RADIO SHOW YESTERDAY COLLEAGUE KRISTEN WELKER ABOUT HER BEING VERY VERY FAIR AND CHIEF OF STAFF TO TAKE THAT BACK TO THE PRESENT THE ONE THING YOU CAN DO THAT WOULD BE TERRIBLE. IT'S TOUGH QUESTION THAT WOULD BE A HUGE MISTAKE FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO SEE AND SO I HOPE THE TALKS AND THE CAMERAS I DON'T THINK HE'S AS FAR BEHIND AS BRAD PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LED TO BELIEVE BY THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA THAT DOING THE POLLING CENTER I THINK HE'S GOT A VERY GOOD SHOT OF WINNING THIS, BUT HE DOES HAVE TO FOCUS AND DELIVER ON THE KEY BREAD AND BUTTER ISSUES THAT GOT HIM ELECTED THE FIRST TIME WHILE SHOWING SOME GOOD STUFF THAT BRINGS OUT THOSE MASSIVE CROWDS THAT WE'VE SEEN SERIES IN WESTERN NORTH CAROLINA ALL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES IN NEVADA, AND FACT THOSE CROWDS ARE ENERGY AND GET THAT ENERGY TONIGHT FROM THE AUDIENCE BECAUSE IT'S SO SMALL SO YOU GOT CHALLENGE FROM INSIDE HIMSELF RIGHT YOU, THANKS. >> DAVID PLOUFFE WAS A BARACK OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN MANAGER IN 20 O 8 AND ALSO SERVED IN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AS A SENIOR ADVISER TO THE PRESIDENT HE'S A BIDEN SUPPORTER IN AN NBC NEWS ANALYST DAVID IF YOU WERE ADVISING JOE BIDEN WHAT WOULD YOU TELL HIM NEEDS TO TONIGHT. >> WELL DON'T PLAY IT SAFE. HE HAS A LEAD AND IT'S A MEANINGFUL LEAD, BUT JUST LIKE IN SPORTS. YOU WANT TO BE OVERLY CAUTIOUS AND I THINK 2 ISSUES IN PARTICULAR ONE. WE HAVE CASES ON THE RISE IN HOSPITALIZATIONS ON THE RISE, THE PRESIDENT SEEMS COMPLETELY ON IN US INTEREST IN IT JUST WANTED TO GO AWAY. AND THAT'S THE FIRST TOPIC AND THEN THE PRESIDENT THAT 60 MINUTES INTERVIEW WHICH WAS A FOR MANY REASONS OF WHAT WE SAW IN ROUTING FOR THE SUPREME COURT TO GET RID OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT TAKE 10'S MILLIONS OF PEOPLE OFF HEALTH CARE TO MIDDLE OF THE DAMAGE SO THOSE ARE HOME BASES FOR BIDEN AND I WOULD STAY THERE TO MAKE SURE I FILL IN THE BLANKS ON WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO AS PRESIDENT RELATE TO TAXES AND JOBS AND HEALTH CARE THERE'S STILL SOME WORK TO BE DONE THERE. >> LET ME PICK UP DAVID ON SOMETHING HUGH HEWITT JUST SAID HE SUGGESTED I THINK THAT PERHAPS THE COMMISSION ON PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES HAD ESSENTIALLY DONE A FAVOR TO PRESIDENT TRUMP BY HAVING THE MICROPHONES MUTED BY THE OTHER CANDIDATE SPEAKS GIVING TRUMP AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK UNFETTERED, BUT ALSO GIVING BIDEN A CHANCE TO SPEAK UNFETTERED AS A DEMOCRAT BE HONEST THAT GIVE YOU ANY NERVES. >> DOESN'T GIVE ME NERVOUS THAT THAT MEANS I GUESS WILL BE 12 MINUTES OF THE DEBATE WHERE TRUMP CAN INTERRUPT THE LAST TODAY WAS A DISASTER BECAUSE IT DID ENTER UP TO SO I WOULD NOT HAVING THE MIKE SEE JUST LIKE THEY WERE LAST TIME THAT DIDN'T SERVE HIM BUT I ASSUME THEY'LL GET INTO THIS AND ON THE HUNTER BIDEN THINK LISTEN THAT IS NOT WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THEY CARE ABOUT THEIR FAMILY. THE AMERICAN FAMILIES HURTING AND IT WILL BE INTERESTING BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE TRUMP BRAIN TRUST IS GOING TO BE THE POLITICAL ALL OF SAYING OK BUT THEY'RE TELLING HIM NOT TO SEND ALL DEBATE ON HUNTER BIDEN DON'T ATTACK KRISTEN WELKER MAKE YOUR CASE WHICH IS YET TO DO ABOUT WHY PEOPLE SHOULD REHIRE HIM BUT THE QUESTION YOU KNOW HE'S RUNNING THE CAMPAIGN AND WILL HE LISTEN, I'M SO THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO ME IS DO WE GET JUST A SLIGHTLY MORE MUTED VERSION OF DONALD TRUMP AND FROM THE FIRST DEBATE OR IS HE REALLY GOING TO TRY AND MAKE A CASE I DON'T THINK HE CAN DO IT SUCCESSFULLY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THIS IS IF YOU DON'T WAKE UP TOMORROW, HE DOESN'T WAKE UP TOMORROW AND IF HE CAN'T SAY DEFINITIVELY THE RACES CHANGE FOR THE BETTER, THIS IS NOT HIS BEST IT SAYS THE CHANGE IS DIRECTOR OF THE RACE BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY TIME IS GOING TO THIS KIND OF AUDIENCE ALL RIGHT DAVID PLOUFFE WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED HERE 45 MINUTES UNTIL THIS LAST DEBATE TAKES PLACE WE'LL TAKE A QUICK BREAK CARE BACK WITH A LOOK AT THE MOOD INSIDE THE TRUMP AND BIDEN CAMPAIGN'S TONIGHT'S. ♪ >> TODAY'S HEADLINES CAN BE HARD TO UNDERSTAND. 7 QUESTIONS SO WE STARTED THE NEWSCAST FOR THEM WE HOPE YOUR FAMILY WATCH NIGHTLY NEWS KIDS EDITION. ♪ >> YOU GOT TO GET A FOUR-YEAR FOR YOU TO BE A SUPER EXPENSIVE WE HAVE CREATED A SYSTEM WHERE THE TICKET TO THE MIDDLE CLASS IS A THING THAT MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES HAVE TO STRESS ABOUT AND BORROW FOR AND PATCHED TOGETHER. >> WHY IS THIS HAPPENING WITH CHRIS HAYES ♪ >> SUBSCRIBE NOW. >> NEWS IN OUR CHANGING WORLD. ♪ PROTESTS BROKE OUT CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC THE STORY. EMERGENCY APPROVAL TO TREAT COVID-19 PLASMA, MANY QUESTIONS REMAIN ABOUT HOW WELL IT WORKS FROM EVERY ANGLE HOW MUCH OF THE INCREASED TENSION WAS DUE TO THE MILITIAS THAT CAME HERE ON THE GROUND DEADLY WESTERN WILDFIRES, CALIFORNIA ENTIRE COMMUNITIES WERE ALSO WIPED OFF THE MAP AND IN DEATH ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS IS INDOOR AIR QUALITY WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ADDRESS >> NBC NIGHTLY NEWS WITH LESTER HOLT. ♪ >> FAVORABLE CONDITIONS ALLOWING THEM TO PUSH THE FLAMES AWAY FROM HOMES, BUT THE WIN CAN CHANGE ALL OF THIS ON A DIME. WE CAN CONTINUE TO EXPECT PROTESTS AS PEOPLE CONTINUE TO CALL FOR MORE ANSWERS TO WHAT HAPPENED AND CONTINUE TO FALL FOR THAT ACCOUNTABILITY. >> STARTING TO FEEL LIKE A TYPICAL GENERAL ELECTION BOTH CANDIDATES ACTUALLY OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL MAKING THEIR PITCH TO VOTERS. ♪ >> THE MOMENT THAT REALLY UNDERSTAND WHO WE ARE WHO WE SAY ♪ >> WE ARE IS RIGHT HERE AT OUR FEET. >> EARLY IN PERSON OR ON ELECTION DAY EACH STATE HAS ITS OWN SET OF RULES FOR THE WAY WE CAST OUR YES, IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO FIGURE IT >> TAKE 15 MINUTES PLAYING >> AND SOME PLACES THE POLLS ARE ALREADY OPEN MAKE SURE YOUR VOICE IS HER PLAN YOUR VOTE AND YOUR VOTE PLAN YOUR VOTES. ♪ >> SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE IS NOW LESS THAN AN HOUR AWAY. WE WANT TO CHECK IN WITH NBC WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT JEFF BENNETT, JEFF. WE KNOW THE PRESIDENT HAS AN UPHILL BATTLE IF THE POLLS ARE TO BE BELIEVED. BUT WHAT IS NOW CAMPAIGN SAYING ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW. >> WELL PRIVATELY, SAVANNAH CAMPAIGN AIDES ARE PROJECTING CONFIDENCE AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT, BUT THERE DOES EXIST THIS DISCONNECT AS IT RELATES TO THE CAMPAIGN BETWEEN WHAT CAMPAIGN AIDES WOULD HAVE THEIR CANDIDATE DOING WITH THE CANDIDATE HIMSELF PRESIDENT TRUMP IS INCLINED TO DO SO EVEN AS CAMPAIGN ADVISERS SUGGEST THAT IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP TO BE MORE AFFIRMATIVE TONIGHT TO OFFER SOME POLICY PRESCRIPTIONS TO BE LESS COMBATIVE TO BE CALMER TO INTERRUPT LESS IT'S NOT CLEAR THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP IS INCLINED TO FOLLOW THAT ADVICE AS WE KNOW BY NOW HE VIEWS HIMSELF AS HIS BEST CAMPAIGN ADVISOR AND HE HAS NOT AT ALL REALLY APPEAR TO BE CONSTRAINED BY ANY SORT OF OUTSIDE ADVICE OR GUIDANCE AND JUDGING BY HIS PUBLIC STATEMENTS IN HIS TWEETS THIS PAST WEEK. HE IS REALLY FUELING HIS CAMPAIGN SO FAR TO THE MOST PART BASED ON GRIEVANCE. WE SHOULD ALSO NOTE THE PRESIDENT WE'RE TOLD HAS DONE LESS TRADITIONAL DEBATE PREP FOR THIS DEBATE TONIGHT THAN HE DID FOR THAT FIRST ONE IN PART BECAUSE TO HELP 10 NAMELY KELLYANNE CONWAY AND CHRIS CHRISTIE HAS BEEN RECOVERING FROM COVID AND THE PRESIDENT ON THE TARMAC JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO. HE WAS ASKED BY REPORTERS HOW HE IS PREPARING AND HE SAID BY DOING THIS AND WHAT HE MEANT WAS BY TAKING QUESTIONS FROM REPORTERS AND BY SPARRING WITH THE MATTE TO TELL YOU A PERSON CLOSE TO THE PRESIDENT TOLD ME THAT THE BAR HAS BEEN SET SO LOW FOR HIM BASED ON HIS OWN PERFORMANCE IN THAT FIRST DEBATE THAT EVEN IF HE SHOWS A MODICUM OF RESTRAINT. IT SHOULD REFLECT WELL ON HIM SAVANNAH LESTER ALL RIGHT JEFF, THANK NBC'S, PETER ALEXANDER IS OUTSIDE THE DEBATE HALL IN NASHVILLE. PETER, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN THE VICE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN OFF THE STUMP FOR MANY DAYS NOW SAID TO BE PREPARING FOR THIS NIGHT IN. >> THAT CERTAINLY RAISED SOME CONVERSATION HOW THEY FEELING >> I THINK THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN IS FEELING CONFIDENT, THEY KNOW THE THE CHALLENGES FOR THE PRESIDENT TRY TO CHANGE THE TRAJECTORY OF THIS RACE THEY WANT BIDEN TO PRESENT HIMSELF AS STABLE STEADY AND COMPETENT TONIGHT IN ONE VIOLENT VISOR THIS EVENING CIRCLED A KEY FIGURE FOR ME THE NUMBER 12 THAT IS THE NUMBER OF UNINTERRUPTED MINUTES THE JOE BIDEN AND DONALD TRUMP TRUMP WILL GET TO USE TO SPEAK TONIGHT, THEY DESCRIBED THIS AS A GIFT FOR YOU HAVE A DIRECT LINE TO 10'S OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS TO SPEAK THEM. TRUMP FOLKS HAVE SAID THAT THEY WANT BIDEN TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY THEY THINK THAT WILL STRUGGLE WITH A DIVIDED THAT'S HIS REAL CHANCE TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP TO THAT AUDIENCE. THEY BELIEVE THERE ARE STILL SOME ON CONVINCE VOTERS OUT THERE THAT WANT TO HEAR FROM JOE BIDEN ON ISSUES LIKE HIS PLAN FOR CORONAVIRUS HIS PLAN TO HELP REBUILD THE ECONOMY GOING FORWARD AS FOR SOME OF BIDEN'S VULNERABILITIES AS RELATES TO HUNT SURVIVE THIS ADVISOR TELLS ME THAT SOMETIMES YOUR PERCEIVED VULNERABILITY IS ACTUALLY A POTENTIAL STRENGTH THAT HE SHOULD USE THAT AS AN EMPATHETIC MOMENT AS HE DID IN THE FIRST DEBATE SAYING THAT HE'S PROUD OF HIS SON BUT ON THE ISSUE OF COURT PACKING THAT'S BECOME SO CONTENTIOUS WITH BIDEN STRUGGLING IN RECENT WEEKS TO SORT OF COME UP WITH THE REAL ANSWER ABOUT HOW HE WOULD RESOLVE THAT IF HE WERE TO BECOME PRESIDENT BIDEN EARLIER TODAY IN A CLIP RELEASED BY 60 MINUTES TRYING TO NEUTRALIZE THAT CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE SAYING THAT AS PRESIDENT. HE WOULD PUT TOGETHER A BIPARTISAN COMMISSION TO STUDY ISSUES RELATED TO THE COURT INCLUDING THE TOPIC OF QUARTERBACKING PERHAPS TERM LIMITS OF LIMITS AS 180 DAYS THEY WOULD FOCUS ON THAT BRING HIM THE RECOMMENDATIONS A WAY TO SORT OF BUY SOME TIME ON THIS ISSUE AND IN FACT TRY TO NEUTRALIZE IF BECOMES AN ISSUE DURING TONIGHT'S EVENT ALL RIGHT PETER, THANK YOU AND THE FUTURE MAKEUP OF THE SUPREME COURT COULD BE A MAJOR TOPIC AT TONIGHT'S DEBATE EARLIER TODAY, THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE APPROVED AMY CONEY BARRETT NOMINATION. >> WITH A FULL SENATE VOTE SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY WANT TO BRING IN NBC'S JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT PETE WILLIAMS WHO COVERS THE COURT AND PETE THE PRESIDENT WILL CERTAINLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT HE IS DAYS AWAY FROM CONFIRMING A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE THAT WILL MOVE THE COURT DECISIVELY TO THE RIGHT AND AS PETER MENTIONED JOE BIDEN HAS TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT HE WOULD SUPPORT ADDING JUSTICES TO THE COURT IN THAT EVENT. >> AND IF AMY CONEY BARRETT IS CONFIRMED, WHICH SEEMS A CERTAINTY NOW SHE WOULD JUMP RIGHT INTO THE BATTLES OVER THE ELECTION BECAUSE AT THIS MOMENT, THE COURT IS CONSIDERING WHETHER TO ALLOW EXTRA TIME FOR RECEIVING MAIL BALLOTS IN 2 BATTLEGROUND STATES NORTH CAROLINA AND WISCONSIN SHE COULD HELP DECIDE THOSE AND THEN IF A CASE CHALLENGING THE OUTCOME OF THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION REACHES THE SUPREME COURT WILL PROBABLY FACE CALLS FOR HER TO RECUSE BECAUSE SHE WAS PUT ON THE COURT. SO CLOSE TO THE ELECTION AND BECAUSE OF THOSE STATEMENTS BY PRESIDENT TRUMP ABOUT THE COURT'S ROLE IN DECIDING ELECTION FIGHTS AND SHE'LL ALSO BE OF COURSE ON THE COURT BY THE TIME IT HERE'S THAT BIG SHOWDOWN OVER OBAMACARE WHICH IS THE WEEK AFTER ELECTION DAY. BUT THE REPUBLICAN RUSH TO GET HER CONFIRMED AND THE SENATE'S REFUSAL TO EVEN CONSIDER PRESIDENT OBAMA'S ELECTION YEAR NOMINATION TO FILL JUSTICE SCALIA'S VACANCY HAS LED TO CALLS FROM MANY DEMOCRATS TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE SUPREME COURT IF BIDEN IS ELECTED WHICH OF COURSE THE IDEAS TO DILUTE THE STRENGTH OF THE CONSERVATIVE JUSTICES. SO BIDEN SAYING HE WOULD HAVE A COMMISSION TO STUDY IT. THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT SPECIFY HOW MANY JUSTICES THE COURT SHOULD HAVE THAT IS SET BY CONGRESS THAT NUMBER HAS CHANGED HALF A DOZEN TIMES IT'S BEEN 9 FOR ABOUT A 150 YEARS BUT MAKING THE COURT BIGGER REMAINS A HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL IDEA EVEN AMONG DEMOCRATS AND JUSTICE RUTH BADER GINSBURG OPPOSED THAT SHE SAID LAST YEAR THAT 9 SEEMED TO BE A GOOD NUMBERS ABOUT PAY THINK YOU CAN OF COURSE IS NOT JUST THE PRESIDENCY, IT'S TAKEN TO THE MAKEUP OF CONGRESS AS WELL. >> WITH DEMOCRATS OBVIOUSLY HOPING A STRONG PERFORMANCE FROM JOE BIDEN WOULD HELP THEM RETAKE CONTROL THE SENATE WE'RE BRINGING ABC NEWS, CAPITOL HILL CORRESPONDENT CASEY HUNT CASEY. THEIR MONEY GOING TO BE A LOT OF ANXIOUS MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WATCHING TONIGHT'S DEBATE RIGHT NOW TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH WAY THE WINDS ARE BLOWING. >> THAT'S AN UNDERSTATEMENT FOR SURE LESTER, AND THE ANXIETY FRANKLY IS INCREDIBLY HIGH AMONG REPUBLICANS WHEN WE LOOK AT THE POLLING NUMBERS FOR A PRESIDENT TRUMP. THE REALITY IS THEY ARE VERY VERY TOUGH FOR REPUBLICANS WHO ARE ALSO GOING TO BE ON THE BALLOT WITH HIM PARTICULARLY IN THE SENATE WHERE CONTROL IS REALLY ON THE LINE AND ONE THING I'M GOING TO BE WATCHING FOR IF WE SEE A PERFORMANCE FROM THE PRESIDENT TONIGHT LIKE WE SAW IN THE LAST DEBATE. IT WAS WIDELY PANNED REPUBLICANS WERE VERY FRUSTRATED WITH HOW HE INTERRUPTED AND DERAILED THE EVENT I THINK YOU MAY SEE MORE REPUBLICANS BREAK FROM THE PRESIDENT IF HE TURNS IN A SIMILAR PERFORMANCE TONIGHT AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND THERE'VE ONLY BEEN SOME CRACKS THAT HAVE STARTED TO EMERGE REALLY IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS SENATOR BEN SASSE FROM NEBRASKA. A CONSERVATIVE. YES, BUT HE AFTER WINNING HIS PRIMARY I HE TOLD CONSTITUENTS IN NEBRASKA THAT HE REALLY DIDN'T APPROVE OF THE PRESIDENT YOU SOME REALLY HARSH LANGUAGE THAT SHOWS HE'S TRYING TO PUT SOME DISTANCE THERE. THE SENATOR FROM TEXAS JOHN CORNYN JUST THE SENATE RACE IN TEXAS IS UNEXPECTEDLY CLOSE BECAUSE PRESIDENT TRUMP IS SO UNPOPULAR. THAT'S NORMALLY NOT A RACE THAT WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT IF WE WERE CONSIDERING WHAT WAS GOING TO FLIP FROM DEMOCRATIC TO REPUBLICAN IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS SO THE SENATE IS REALLY ON THE LINE CONTROL OF THE SENATE IN A WAY THAT WE DID NOT NECESSARILY EXPECT AND OF COURSE THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AT THIS POINT STRONGLY IN DEMOCRATIC HANDS, BUT FRANKLY DEMOCRATS ARE EXPECTING THEIR LIKELY TO PICK UP A HANDFUL OF HOUSE SEATS SO THEY COULD SOLIDIFY THAT MAJORITY AS WELL SO I THINK A LOT TO A LOT ON THE LINE AS YOU SAY OF FOR THESE REPUBLICANS IN PARTICULAR WHO REALLY HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING TO DEAL WITH THE WAY THAT THIS PRESIDENT CONDUCTS POLITICS EVEN AS HE HAS PUT MANY OF THE POLICIES THAT THEY SUPPORT AND MANY OF THE JUDGES THAT THEY SUPPORT ON TO THE BENCH AND SIGNED INTO LAW LAST ARE ALL RIGHT CASEY, THANKS AND ONE THING WE CAN'T LOSE SIGHT OF THROUGHOUT THE EVENING AS MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY VOTED IN THIS ELECTION DAY SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. THE FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE JUST ABOUT 40 MINUTES AWAY NOW WE'LL TAKE A BREAK WE'LL BE BACK WITH MORE OF OUR SPECIAL COVERAGE. >> THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE THE STATE CONTINUES TO STRUGGLE TO EXPAND ITS TESTING CAPABILITIES. ♪ >> THEY NEED TO COME OUT IN FULL FORCE AND SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE COURTS. ♪ ELECTION DAY COMING UP AGAINST THE BACK DROP OUT OF VOTERS SAFE AMID A PANDEMIC. ♪ >> THE MOMENT THAT ♪ >> REALLY UNDERSTAND WHO WE ARE WHO WE SAY WE ARE IS RIGHT HERE AT FT. >> YOU GOT TO GET A FOUR-YEAR FOR YOU TO BE A SUPER EXPENSIVE WE HAVE CREATED A SYSTEM WHERE THE TICKET TO THE MIDDLE CLASS IS A THING THAT MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES HAVE TO STRESS ABOUT AND BORROW FOR AND PATCHED TOGETHER. >> WHY IS THIS HAPPENING WITH CHRIS HAYES SUBSCRIBE NOW. ♪ >> YOU'RE WATCHING NBC NEWS NOW GOT SOME BREAKING NEWS. WE ACTUALLY SAW LARGE CONVOY NATIONAL GUARD ♪ >> TO WAS MADE FOR YOUR STREAMING WORLD. STARTING AT 06:00AM EASTERN. >> THIS MORNING ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH THE NEW NORMAL FOR SCHOOLS WILL LOOK LIKE MANY TEACHERS LEFT MAKING TOUGH CHOICES BETWEEN THE JOB, THE ONE LINE OF SIGHT. >> MY CHILDREN HAVE A JOB THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE DECISION YOU'RE CREATING A LITTLE COMMUNITY SCHOOL THIS WE CELLS DEVELOP AND CHANGE LET'S TURN IT OVER TO STUDENTS HOW THEY REALLY FEEL ABOUT RETURNING TO SCHOOL AND THIS RIGHT TO CHOOSE OR REALLY HIM. ♪ >> THE SURGE IN CORONAVIRUS INFECTION DEVELOP AND SO ON SEVERAL FRONTS STORY TONIGHT THE U.S. SHATTERING THE RECORD FOR MOST COVID CASES IN A SINGLE DAY FROM THE ANGLE YOU LOOK CONCERNED THAT THE KIDS WE'VE BEEN TOLD ARE THE HOME CAN DEFINITELY WON'T BE ABLE TO CATCH ON THE GROUND YOU HAVE FAITH THAT THIS IS ♪ GOING TO BRING ABOUT CHANGE SOON AND DEATHS. >> PROTESTS EXPECTED TONIGHT YOU THINK THAT POLICE IN THIS COUNTRY ARE UNDER ATTACK. AND DC NIGHTLY NEWS WITH ♪ LESTER HOLT. >> THE NEWS BUSINESS IS DYNAMIC AND PROBABLY HAS NEVER BEEN MORE IMPORTANT WITH ALL THAT WE'RE FACING I AM SO PROUD TO BRING THE PERSPECTIVE OF A BLACK WOMAN, A DAUGHTER OF IMMIGRANTS, THE WIFE AND MOTHER OF A HUSBAND AND KIDS WHO SADLY ARE MORE VULNERABLE TO POLICE VIOLENCE BECAUSE OF THEIR COLOR. A PROUD NERD AND A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE EMERGING AMERICA TO CABLE TV NEWS. I HOPE THE GREAT GWEN EIFFEL AND MY MOM PHILOMENA CAROL AMINA WILL LOOK DOWN FROM HEAVEN AND ♪ BE PROUD. >> A LITTLE OVER HALF OUR WAY GETTING A GOOD DEBATE AND KEEP IN MIND. MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO, SAVANNAH THAT MILLIONS OF VOTERS ARE READY AND THEN ULTIMATELY THEY'RE TALKING TO THE UNDERSIDE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS HOW MANY PEOPLE TRULY UNDERSTAND WHO IS THAT UNDECIDED VOTER YOU DON'T SEEM TO ME THAT THE PRESIDENT THE COFFEE SHOP SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY'S MADE UP THEIR MIND AS YOU MENTIONED 46 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY CAST THEIR VOTES IN THIS ELECTION AN EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF MAIL IN VOTING FOR US BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC BUT THE UNDECIDED VOTER THAT'S THE PRIZE SOMEBODY WHO COULD BE PERSUADED AND WILL THIS DEBATE DO THE TRICK WHEN TAKE A QUICK BREAK BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE OF OUR SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE OF 2020 MINUTES AWAY AS THE MOTORCADE PULLS INTO THE DEBATE HALL. ♪ >> TODAY'S HEADLINES COULD BE HARD ♪ >> TO UNDERSTAND. 7 QUESTIONS SO WE STARTED THE NEWSCAST FOR THEM WE HOPE YOUR FAMILY WILL WATCH NIGHTLY NEWS KIDS EDITION. ♪ >> YOU GOT TO GET A FOUR-YEAR FOR YOU TO BE A SUPER EXPENSIVE WE HAVE CREATED A SYSTEM WHERE THE TICKET TO THE MIDDLE CLASS IS A THING THAT MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES HAVE TO STRESS ABOUT AND BORROW FOR AND PATCHED TOGETHER. >> WHY IS THIS HAPPENING ♪ >> WITH CHRIS HAYES SUBSCRIBE NOW. >> NEWS IN OUR CHANGING WORLD. ♪ PROTESTS BROKE OUT CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC THE STORY. EMERGENCY APPROVAL TO TREAT COVID-19 PLASMA, MANY QUESTIONS REMAIN ABOUT HOW WELL IT WORKS FROM EVERY ANGLE HOW MUCH OF THE INCREASED TENSION WAS DUE TO THE MILITIAS CAME HERE ON THE GROUND DEADLY WESTERN WILDFIRES, CALIFORNIA ENTIRE COMMUNITIES WERE ALSO WIPED OFF THE MAP AND THEN DEATH ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS IS INDOOR AIR QUALITY WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ADDRESS >> NBC NIGHTLY NEWS WITH LESTER HOLT. ♪ >> FAVORABLE CONDITIONS ALLOWING THEM TO PUSH THE FLAMES AWAY FROM HOMES, BUT THE WIN CAN CHANGE ALL OF THIS ON A DIME. WE CAN CONTINUE TO EXPECT PROTESTS AS PEOPLE CONTINUE TO CALL FOR MORE ANSWERS TO WHAT HAPPENED AND CONTINUE TO FALL FOR THAT ACCOUNTABILITY. >> STARTING TO FEEL LIKE A TYPICAL GENERAL ELECTION BOTH CANDIDATES ACTUALLY OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL MAKING THEIR PITCH TO VOTERS. ♪ >> THE MOMENT THAT REALLY UNDERSTAND WHO WE ARE WHO WE SAY WE ARE IS RIGHT HERE AT ♪ >> OUR FEET. >> EARLY IN PERSON OR ON ELECTION DAY EACH STATE HAS ITS OWN SET OF RULES THE WAY WE CAST OUR BOUNDS. YES, IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO FIGURE IT >> TAKE 15 MINUTES PLAYING WE WERE OUT THERE. >> AND SOME PLACES THE POLLS ARE ALREADY OPEN MAKE SURE YOUR VOICE IS HER PLAN YOUR VOTE AND YOUR VOTE PLAN YOUR VOTES. ♪ >> ABC NEWS DECISION 2020 THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE CONTINUES HERE AGAIN OR LESTER HOLT AND SAVANNAH GUTHRIE. >> HI EVERYBODY GOOD TO HAVE WITH US AND WELCOME BACK TO NBC NEWS SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE BETWEEN REPUBLICAN INCUMBENT PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP AND THE DEMOCRATIC CHALLENGER FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN. >> THIS WILL BE THE FINAL DEBATE BETWEEN THE 2 IS TAKING PLACE TONIGHT RIGHT THERE BELMONT UNIVERSITY IN NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE OF COURSE THIS IS ONLY THE SECOND DEBATE FOR THE CANDIDATES, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE 3 BUT PRESIDENT TRUMP REFUSED TO PARTICIPATE IN WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SECOND FOLLOWING HERE WHEN THE COMMISSION ON PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES ASK FOR IT TO BE DONE VIRTUALLY. AFTER THE FRONT PRESIDENT CONTRACTED CORONAVIRUS SO THAT'S A LONG WAY OF SAYING THIS IS THEIR SECOND DEBATE. THE SECOND DEBATE AND IT'S THE LAST YOU'RE GONNA NOTICE. ONE BIG CHANGE FROM THE LAST ONE BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT AND JOE BIDEN THERE WERE A LOT OF INTERACTIONS YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER THAT SO TONIGHT FOR THE FIRST. >> 2 MINUTES OF EACH SEGMENT, THE CANDIDATE WHO WAS SPEAKING, WE'LL GET TO DO SO UNINTERRUPTED BECAUSE THE MICROPHONE OF THE OTHER CANDIDATE WILL BE MUTED BY THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE COMMISSION AND IN TONIGHT'S DEBATE BE MODERATED BY NBC'S WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT AND WEEKEND TODAY ANCHOR KRISTIN WELKER. >> THE DEBATE COMMISSION SAYS SHE WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FACT CHECKING THE CANDIDATES BUT OUR TEAM OF CORRESPONDENTS AN ANALYST IS STANDING BY TO DO JUST THAT AND FOR REAL-TIME FACT-CHECKING YOU CAN GO TO NBC NEWS DOT COMS THE START OF THE DEBATE JUST ABOUT 30 MINUTES AWAY THE HALL IS FILLING UP ALREADY THAT IS WHERE WE FIND ABC'S CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT ♪ HALLIE JACKSON HAS SHE IS IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT, HEY HOWIE WHAT'S GOING ON. >> HEY SO SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN HAS NOW ARRIVED HERE AT THE DEBATE HALL HE WILL BE FOLLOWED SHORTLY WITHIN MINUTES OF COURSE BY PRESIDENT TRUMP THEIR MOTORCADES TRAVELING THROUGH NASHVILLE TO GET HERE TO BELMONT UNIVERSITY AND YOU CAN SEE BEHIND ME THINGS ARE STARTING TO FILL UP WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE I HAVE TO TELL YOU I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY ABLE TO SEE IT FROM YOUR VANTAGE POINT ON CAMERA AS WELL EVERYBODY THAT WE'VE SEEN IS WEARING MASKS, THIS IS A MANDATE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS A REQUIREMENT FROM THE COMMISSION ON PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES YOU CAN SEE EVERYBODY THERE FOLLOWING IT FOR NOW THE SURGICAL MASK SPECIFICALLY ON A LOT OF FOLKS PEOPLE WHO ARE ENTERING THE HALL HAD TO SHOW PROOF OF A NEGATIVE COVID TEST WE KNOW THAT BOTH CANDIDATES, ACCORDING TO THEIR AIDES HAVE BEEN TESTED NEGATIVE TODAY FOR THE CORONAVIRUS THAT IS SOMETHING THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP DID ON AIR FORCE ONE ON THE WAY HERE ACCORDING TO HIS CHIEF OF STAFF. YOU OFTEN GET US AS WE LOOK AT SORT OF THE GUESTS IN THE HALL, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN ATTENDANCE HERE OF THE DEBATE STRATEGIES FOR EACH CANDIDATE WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT WHO PRESIDENT TRUMP IS BRINGING AS HIS SURPRISE GUEST. BUT LOOK AT WHO JOE BIDEN IS BRINGING HIS WELL HIS CAMPAIGN SAYS HE WILL HAVE IN THE AUDIENCE TO SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS WHO ARE STRUGGLING IN THE PANDEMIC ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE WAY THAT THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT IS LOOKING TO KEEP THE FOCUS ON THE ADMINISTRATION'S CORONAVIRUS RESPONSE, I'LL TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE THE MASKS COULD BE A LITTLE TRICKY TO DO SOME SPOTTING FROM OUR VANTAGE POINT APPEAR HIGH. BUT WE HAVE SEEN AMBASSADOR NIKKI HALEY HEARS THERE'S A SEAT MARKED OUT FOR HER AS WELL ON THE FLOOR AND MUSICIAN KID ROCK IS ALSO IN ATTENDANCE AS WELL I'M TOLD THAT HE HAS A RESTAURANT HERE IN NASHVILLE. HE HAS BEEN SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN VOCAL ABOUT HIS SUPPORT FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP I EXPECT WE'LL SEE MORE PEOPLE COME IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MINUTES HERE, INCLUDING OF COURSE MEMBERS OF THE TRUMP FAMILY ONCE THEY DO ARRIVE. THE FIRST LADY IS TRAVELING WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP. IT'S NOTABLE THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE SEEING HER PUBLICLY SINCE HER CORONAVIRUS DIAGNOSIS REMEMBER SHE CAME DOWN WITH COVID HAS RECOVERED, BUT SHE DID NOT ATTEND A RALLY JUST RECENTLY BECAUSE OF WHAT HER SPOKESPERSON HER CHIEF OF STAFF SAID WAS A LINGERING COUGH. THIS WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE FIRST LADY MELANIA TRUMP AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE TRUMP FAMILY, INCLUDING ERIC TRUMP AND IVANKA TRUMP AS AND HOW WE THANK YOU NBC IS POLITICAL DIRECTOR AND MODERATOR OF MEET THE PRESS CHUCK TODD IS HERE WITH HIS NOW CHUCK, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE STATE OF THE RACE JOE BIDEN IS LEADING IN THE POLLS. >> DEMOCRATS OBVIOUSLY NOT GOING TO SPIKE THE FOOTBALL QUITE YES WE CAN GET BECAUSE OF A 4 YEARS AGO, BUT WHAT IS THE TRUMP PATH TO VICTORY WITH LINE COULD BE FOLLOWED TO VICTORY. WELL LOOK IT'S GOT A REALLY NARROW SINCE THE LAST DEBATE, I MEAN ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT HERE. >> IS IT SINCE THAT THAT LAST DEBATE THAT THEY HAD. JOE BIDEN STARTED TO SOLIDIFY SOME LEADS IN MICHIGAN. HIS LEAD IN WISCONSIN IS IS JUST BARELY OUTSIDE THE MARGIN ERROR IN MOST THE POLLS I'VE SEEN BUT STILL IT'S COMPETITIVE IN THE PRESIDENT. HE WOULD BROUGHT THIS UP THE PRESIDENT DOES NEED TO BRING THESE 2 STATES BACK INTO PLAY BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT RIGHT NOW THERE ARE 4 STATES TOTAL THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT AND SAY THE PRESIDENT IS WITHIN THE MARGIN OF ERROR ON AND CAN STILL PLAUSIBLY GET UP AT THE 2.70, BUT THE PROBLEM HE HAS. GUYS IS THAT HE ONLY NOW HAS ONE PATH. IF RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING ELSE HOLES, I MEAN, JOE BIDEN NEEDS ONE OF THESE FOR ASSUMING EVERYTHING HOLD RIGHT NOW WHERE HE LEADS HE JUST NEEDS ONE OF THESE REMAINING 4 OF ARIZONA FLORIDA, NORTH CAROLINA AND BIDEN AND PENNSYLVANIA HERE SO LITERALLY ARIZONA WOULD PUT HIM OVER THE TOP, BUT IF HE LOSES ARIZONA, PENNSYLVANIA WOULD PUT HIM OVER THE TOP, BUT HE COULD LOSE PENNSYLVANIA NORTH CAROLINA COULD PUT HIM OVER THE TOP HELP THEY CAN LOSE NORTH CAROLINA AND THEN FLORIDA COULD PUT HIM OVER THE TOP. NOW WHAT DOES PRESIDENT TRUMP HAVE TO DO. HE HAS TO SWEEP ALL OF THOSE 4. NOW NORTH CAROLINA. I THINK THERE IS A COIN FLIP. IT IS IT IS A COIN FLIP TYPE OF RACE. HE'S BEHIND IN PENNSYLVANIA. AND THE REAL ISSUE HERE IS RIGHT NOW HE'S VERY BEHIND IN ARIZONA MARICOPA COUNTY SAVANNAH, YOU KNOW THE STATE VERY WELL. MARICOPA COUNTY OUR FRIEND VAUGHN HILLYARD SAID THERE'S ONLY BEEN ONE INSTANCE IN THE LAST DECADE WHERE A STATEWIDE CANDIDATE LOST MARICOPA COUNTY THAT THE JUDGE AGAIN OR MISS ARIZONA AND SOMEHOW STILL WON STATEWIDE AND RIGHT NOW MOST POLLS SHOW DONALD TRUMP LOSING MARICOPA COUNTY. IF YOU LOSE IT BY MORE THAN A POINT OR 2 YOU'RE NOT MAKING IT UP AND THE REST OF THE STATE NOT WORK SO IT CAN HURT OUT HERE ABOUT ARIZONA. BUT THAT'S WHERE IS THAT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SUBURBAN WOMEN SUBURBAN NOMS THE SUBURBS OF PHOENIX. >> REALLY IMPORTANT MIGHT BE DECISIVE IN DECIDING WHETHER ARIZONA GOES BLUE WHICH IT IS OFTEN TALKED ABOUT BUT RARELY DOES I THINK THEY 6 BUT THAT WAS IT. >> HONESTLY TO ME ARIZONA'S THE CHECKMATE STATE FOR JOE BIDEN I MEAN WHEN YOU START TO MESS AROUND THESE PATTERNS HERE, ESPECIALLY IF IF DONALD TRUMP IS UNDERPERFORMING IN MICHIGAN WISCONSIN HERE. IT IS INTERESTING HE HAS A PLAUSIBLE WAY TO WIN FLORIDA, THERE'S A PLAUSIBLE PATH NORTH CAROLINA. THE ARIZONA WITH WHAT YOU JUST BROUGHT UP WITH MARICOPA. I MEAN THIS IS AMERICA'S LARGEST SUBURB. THAT'S WHAT I CALL MARICOPA COUNTY, HERE'S IT IS THE BIGGEST SUBURBAN AMERICA IN SOME WAYS AND WHAT HAVE WE SEEN FOR THE LAST 4 YEARS, DONALD TRUMP'S POLITICAL SUPPORT IN THE SUBURBS HAS BEEN. >> JUST COLLAPSE AND I WILL KEEP KEEP AN EYE ON THAT OF COURSE THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC IS CERTAIN TO BE A BIG TOPIC AT TONIGHT'S DEBATE IN FACT WE KNOW IT WILL BE DOCTOR JOHN TORRES NBC SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT AND IT SAYS IT'S TIME TO LOOK AT IT BEFORE WE HEAR THAT BACK AND FORTH JOHN FOR YOU TO JUST KIND OF GIVE US A STATE OF THE UNION A STATE OF THE PANDEMIC WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT. >> AND SO THEN I THINK THE NUMBERS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING OVER 8 MILLION CASES SINCE THE PANDEMIC STARTED OVER 220,000 DEATHS AND IF YOU LOOK AT DEATHS PER 100,000 WE'RE STILL ONE OF THE TOP 5 DEATHS IN THE COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AS FAR AS COUNTRIES ARE CONCERNED, BUT EVEN LOOKING SINCE THE LAST DEBATE WHAT WE'RE SEEING ARE SURGES ACROSS THE COUNTRY WE'RE SEEING STATES THAT HAVE MORE CASES THAN THEY'VE EVER HAD STATES ARE SETTING UP SURGE. TENSE BECAUSE THEIR CAPACITIES GETTING OVERWHELMED IN HER HOSPITAL AND EVEN LOOKING AT THE DEBATE ITSELF WHAT WE'RE NOTICING IS THEY MADE A FEW LAST MINUTE CHANGES HERE BOTH PRESIDENT TRUMP AND VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN TESTED NEGATIVE AND SO THEY TALK TO DOCTOR FAUCI DO ANY BARRIERS AND DOCTOR FAUCI SAID YOU KNOW THOSE BARRIERS GIVE YOU A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY AS LONG AS THEY SOCIAL DISTANCE AS LONG AS OR NEGATIVE. WE DON'T NEED THOSE IT'S EVEN AFFECTING THE DEBATE RIGHT NOW, BUT THIS IS PROBABLY THE TOP MOST THING ON AMERICANS MINDS WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH A DEBATE WITH THE CORONAVIRUS ARE WE GOING TO BE SAFE AND WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO TO KEEP US SAFE SAVANNAH THAT'S THE IMPORTANT QUESTION AND THEN THE OBVIOUS QUESTION WHAT ABOUT THE ECONOMY AND THE EFFECT THE PANDEMIC HAS HAD ON THE ECONOMY INTO ARE CERTAINLY RELATED WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK AND BE BACK WITH A LOOK AT WHAT BOTH CANDIDATES NEED TO ACCOMPLISH DURING THIS EVENING'S DEBATE, THE BANKS. ♪ >> THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE THE STATE CONTINUES TO STRUGGLE TO EXPAND ITS TESTING CAPABILITIES. ♪ >> THEY NEED TO COME OUT IN FULL FORCE AND SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE NOT GETTING THAT THE COURTS FROM POLICE. ♪ ELECTION DAY COMING UP AGAINST THE BACK DROP OUT OF VOTERS SAFE AMID A PANDEMIC. ♪ >> THE MOMENT THAT ♪ >> REALLY UNDERSTAND WHO WE ARE WHO WE SAY WE ARE IS RIGHT HERE AT OUR FEET. >> YOU GOT TO GET A FOUR-YEAR FOR YOU TO BE A SUPER EXPENSIVE WE HAVE CREATED A SYSTEM WHERE THE TICKET TO THE MIDDLE CLASS IS A THING THAT MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES HAVE TO STRESS ABOUT AND BORROW FOR AND PATCHED TOGETHER. >> WHY IS THIS HAPPENING WITH CHRIS HAYES SUBSCRIBE NOW. ♪ >> YOU'RE WATCHING NBC NEWS NOW GOT SOME BREAKING NEWS. WE ACTUALLY SAW LARGE CONVOY NATIONAL GUARD ♪ >> TO WAS MADE FOR YOUR STREAMING WORLD. STARTING AT 06:00AM EASTERN. >> THIS MORNING ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH THE NEW NORMAL FOR SCHOOLS WILL LOOK LIKE MANY TEACHERS LEFT MAKING TOUGH CHOICES BETWEEN THE JOB, THE ONE LINE OF SIGHT. >> MY CHILDREN HAVE A JOB THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE DECISION YOU'RE CREATING A LITTLE COMMUNITY SCHOOL THIS IS SOME OF WHAT WE CELLS DEVELOP AND LET'S TURN IT OVER TO STUDENTS HOW THEY REALLY FEEL ABOUT RETURNING TO SCHOOL BUT THEN THIS RIGHT TO CHOOSE OR REALLY HIM. ♪ >> THE SURGE IN CORONAVIRUS INFECTION DEVELOP AND SO ON SEVERAL FRONTS STORY TONIGHT THE U.S. SHATTERING THE RECORD FOR MOST COVID CASES IN A SINGLE DAY FROM THE ANGLE WHICH ARE LEVEL OF CONCERN THAT THE KIDS WE'VE BEEN TOLD ARE THE HOME CAN DEFINITELY WON'T BE ABLE TO CATCH ON THE GROUND YOU HAVE FAITH THAT THIS IS ♪ GOING TO BRING ABOUT CHANGE SOON AND DEATHS. >> PROTESTS EXPECTED TONIGHT YOU THINK THAT POLICE IN THIS COUNTRY ARE UNDER ATTACK. ABC NIGHTLY NEWS WITH LESTER HOLT. ♪ >> THE NEWS BUSINESS IS DYNAMIC AND PROBABLY HAS NEVER BEEN MORE IMPORTANT WITH ALL THAT WE'RE FACING I AM SO PROUD TO BRING THE PERSPECTIVE OF A BLACK WOMAN, A DAUGHTER OF IMMIGRANTS, THE WIFE AND MOTHER OF A HUSBAND AND KIDS WHO SADLY ARE MORE VULNERABLE TO POLICE VIOLENCE BECAUSE OF THEIR COLOR. A PROUD NERD AND A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE EMERGING AMERICA TO CABLE TV NEWS. I HOPE THE GREAT GWEN EIFFEL AND MY MOM PHILOMENA CAROL AMINA WILL LOOK DOWN FROM HEAVEN AND ♪ BE PROUD. >> HEADLINES CAN BE HARD TO UNDERSTAND A LOT OF KIDS HAVE QUESTIONS SO WE STARTED THE NEWSCAST FOR THEM WITH YOUR FAMILY WATCH NIGHTLY NEWS KIDS EDITION. >> ALL RIGHT WE'RE BACK WITH OUR COVERAGE OF TONIGHT'S FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE, THE CANDIDATES WILL TAKE THE STAGE IN ABOUT 20 MINUTES. WE WANT TO BRING IN NBC NEWS POLITICAL ANALYST FORMER DEMOCRATIC SENATOR CLAIRE MCCASKILL ALONG WITH RICH LOWRY EDITOR OF THE NATIONAL REVIEW ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE BOTH OF YOU. >> CLEARLY WE START WITH UBER RICH YOU CAN WEIGH IN ON THIS QUESTION OF EXPECTATIONS. SO MUCH TALK ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL BE INTERRUPT AGAIN WHERE THE BAR IS FOR HIM CLEAR WHERE IS THE BAR FOR JOE BIDEN TONIGHT. >> WELL I JOE BIDEN HAS TO HIS AUTHENTIC SELF. HE IS HIS CAMPAIGN THEMES HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT, HE WANTS TO UNITE THE COUNTRY. HE HAS SPECIFIC PLANS AND I HOPE HE GETS A CHANCE TO LAY OUT TONIGHT COURTESY OF THE MUTE BUTTON AND IF HE DOES THAT HE'S IN A COMMANDING POSITION IN THIS RACE HE REALLY JUST NEEDS TO STICK TO HIS PLAN STICK TO POLICY AND SHOW OFF HIS KIND PERSONALITY. >> RICH ABOUT YOU WEIGH, AND I THINK LEICESTER'S QUESTION WAS WHAT WHAT'S THE BAR FOR THE PRESIDENT WHAT DOES HE NEED TO DO TONIGHT. >> YEAH, WELL CLEARLY HE NEEDS TO BE AN OFFENSE WITHOUT BEING OFFENSIVE AND HE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AS GENTLE AS A KITTEN BUT HE JUST CAN'T BE IS IT NOT JUST AS LAST TIME WHICH REALLY ENDED UP ARE HURTING HIM, I THINK ONE REALLY STRANGE DYNAMIC IN THIS RACE OF AND AS A NUMBER ONE ISSUE IN THIS CAMPAIGN IS THE ECONOMY PRETTY MUCH THE ONE ISSUE WHERE TRUMP BELIEVES LEAST IN MOST POLLS IS THE ECONOMY YET. HE HASN'T HAMMER THAT ISSUE HOME THE WAY YOU WOULD EXPECT. >> CAN YOU MAKE SOME PROGRESS ON THAT TONIGHT WILL REACH LET ME ASK YOU BECAUSE ALL SIGNS POINT TO THE PRESIDENT REALLY WANTING TO MAKE A MEAL OUT OF HUNTER BIDEN TONIGHT EVEN INVITED US A SPECIAL GUEST RELATED TO ALL OF THOSE ALLEGATIONS IS THAT A WISE STRATEGY TO RAISE THAT ISSUE. >> HE'S HE'S CLEARLY GOING BRING IT UP I THINK IS A TOTALLY LEGITIMATE ISSUE I THINK IN RECENT DAYS HAS BECOME CLEAR AND CLEAR THAT THESE E-MAILS THAT CAME TO LIGHT IN STRANGE WAY THIS DELAWARE REPAIR SHOP SEEM TO BE AUTHENTIC AND SPEAK TO AT THE VERY LEAST SLEAZY BUSINESS PRACTICES. BUT I'M JUST NOT SURE HOW MUCH WILL GET THE PRESIDENT EVEN IN THE BEST CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE THE WAY JOE BIDEN THE FLEX IS JUST SAY THIS IS UNPROVEN AND WE MY FAMILY OUT OF IT. >> UNCLEAR WHAT IT IF IT COMES UP WHAT'S HIS BEST STRATEGY BIDEN'S BEST STRATEGY. >> WELL EVERYBODY IN AMERICA HAS WATCHED THE TRUMP FAMILY. THEY HAVE WATCHED THE FOREIGN DEALS, WE NOW KNOW HE HAS A SECRET CHINESE BANK ACCOUNT. I THINK THAT IF HE THINKS HE'S GOING TO GET WOMEN IN THE SUBURBS BACK IT'S PROBABLY NOT A GOOD STRATEGY FOR TRUMP TO GO AFTER A SON AND I THINK BIDEN WILL PROBABLY EASILY DEFLECTED THERE IS ACTUALLY NOT ONE SCINTILLA OF PROOF THAT THE VICE PRESIDENT HAS DONE ANYTHING WRONG AND EVERYONE HAS LOOKED AT IT. >> ALRIGHT DEMOCRAT CLAIRE MCCASKILL REPUBLICAN REACHED OUR VERY OWN ODD COUPLE OF SEA ON THE OTHER SIDE LET'S TURN TO THE SECURITY OF THIS ELECTION. IT'S A TOP PRIORITY. 10'S OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ALREADY HAVE BEEN CAST THEIR BALLOTS AS MENTIONED. BUT WHAT AN EXTRAORDINARY MOMENT LAST NIGHT THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE AND THE HEAD OF THE FBI COME BEFORE CAMERAS TO SAY THEY HAVE EVIDENCE THAT IRAN AND RUSSIA ARE RIGHT NOW TRYING TO INTERFERE IN OUR ELECTION, INCLUDING WITH A FAKE E-MAIL SENT TO VOTERS IN FLORIDA AND OTHER PLACES SUNDAY MCFADDEN IS NBC'S SENIOR INVESTIGATIVE AND LEGAL CORRESPONDENT CYNTHIA WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS. >> WE KNOW THIS IS JUST PARTS OF AN OF AN ONGOING CAMPAIGN THAT RUSSIA, IRAN AND OTHER FOREIGN ACTORS ARE ENGAGED IN TO TRY TO UNDERMINE THE CONFIDENCE THAT AMERICANS HAVE IN THEIR OWN DEMOCRATIC PROCESS AND AND PUT US IN A BAD LIGHT IN THE REST OF THE WORLD, THEY'RE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB AT THAT ALSO I ATE ONE KEY ONE CANDIDATE OR ANOTHER YOU KNOW IN ADDITION TO THOSE KINDS MISINFORMATION CAMPAIGNS THAT WE HEARD ABOUT LAST NIGHT. INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS TELL US THAT THEY ARE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR RANSOMWARE ATTACKS ON CITIES AND STATES LEADING UP TO THE ELECTION TO TRY TO THROW CITIZEN STAYS OFF BALANCE AS WELL AS ACTUAL ATTACKS ON THE ELECTION SYSTEM THEY ARE WELL AWARE OF THE HAVOC THAT COULD ENSUE IF THIS LOOKS A VOTER REGISTRATION SYSTEM GOES DOWN IN SOME CITY ON ELECTION DAY. BUT YOU KNOW MEANWHILE TALKING ABOUT SECURITY MEANWHILE, 60% OF AMERICANS ARE GOING TO VOTE USING MAIL IN BALLOTS THIS YEAR THAT'S COMPARED TO 20% IN 2016 SO IT CREATES A MASSIVE CHALLENGE BOTH FOR ELECTION OFFICIALS AS WELL AS VOTERS AND ALL THE STUDIES SHOW THAT THE MORE YOU VOTE BY MAIL THE BETTER YOU GET AT IT. >> AND IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD EXPERIENCE WHICH MOST AMERICANS HAVE NOT. THERE ARE MISTAKES THAT CAN BE MADE THAT WILL GET YOUR BALLOTS THROWN OUT. NOW IN GENERAL ONE PERCENT OF ABSENTEE YOUR MAIL IN BALLOTS HAD BEEN THROWN OUT. EXPERTS TELL US THAT THAT NUMBER COULD SPIKE BY 300% THIS YEAR THAT WOULD BE CONCERNING BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE KIND OF MARGINS IN SOME OF THE SWING STATES IN WHICH ELECTIONS CAN BE DECIDED. YOU KNOW BOTTOM LINE COVID HAS EXPOSED MANY CRACKS IN AMERICAN SOCIETY NONE MORE SO THAN OUR ELECTION SYSTEM. YOU KNOW 30% OF AMERICANS STILL VOTING MACHINES THAT ARE THESE 10 YEARS OR OLDER, WHICH MEANS THAT SECURITY PATCHES FOR CYBERSECURITY PROBLEMS CAN BE MADE THAT REPAIRS CAN BE MADE PARKS AND EVEN MADE FOR THESE MACHINES ANYMORE. YOU KNOW EXPERTS TELL US THAT WHILE THE VOTING SYSTEM IS FUNDAMENTALLY SAFE ONE EXPERT GROUP SAYS AMERICANS MORE LIKELY TO BE STRUCK BY LIGHTNING THAN TO ENGAGE IN ELECTION FRAUD. THERE ARE PROBLEMS IN OUR SYSTEM AND THOSE ARE GOING TO BE ON FULL DISPLAY BOTH IN THESE WITH THE WEEK LEADING UP TO THE ELECTION AND ON NOVEMBER, 3RD. STATES ASKED FOR ABOUT 4 BILLION DOLLARS TO TRY TO FIX THINGS UP FROM CONGRESS AND DECLINED TO. >> ASSIST THEM AND IT BEARS REPEATING THE LAST ELECTION PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION DECIDED BY ABOUT 60,000 VOTES IN 3 STATES. SO THE STAKES OF COURSE A VERY HIGH UP TO BE RIGHT BACK. >> 11 MINUTES 10 MINUTES UNTIL THE DEBATE STARTS TO GET MORE OF OUR COVERAGE RIGHT AFTER THIS. >> CONDITIONS ALLOWING THEM TO PUSH THE FLAMES AWAY FROM HOMES, BUT THE WIN CAN CHANGE ALL OF THIS ON A DIME. >> WE CAN CONTINUE TO EXPECT PROTESTS AS PEOPLE CONTINUE TO CALL FOR MORE ANSWERS TO WHAT HAPPENED AND CONTINUE TO FALL FOR THAT ACCOUNTABILITY STARTING TO FEEL LIKE A TYPICAL GENERAL ELECTION BOTH CANDIDATES ACTUALLY OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL MAKING THEIR PITCH TO VOTERS. ♪ >> THE MOMENT THAT REALLY UNDERSTAND WHO ♪ >> WE ARE WHO WE SAY WE ARE IS RIGHT HERE AT OUR FEET. >> PROTESTS BROKE OUT CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC THE STORY. EMERGENCY APPROVAL TO TREAT COVID-19 PLASMA, MANY QUESTIONS REMAIN ABOUT HOW WELL IT WORKS FROM EVERY ANGLE HOW MUCH OF THE INCREASED TENSION WAS DUE TO THE MILITIAS THAT CAME HERE ON THE GROUND DEADLY WESTERN WILDFIRES, CALIFORNIA ENTIRE COMMUNITIES WERE ALSO WIPED OFF THE MAP AND IN DEATH ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS IS INDOOR AIR QUALITY WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ADDRESS THAT. >> ABC NIGHTLY NEWS WITH LESTER HOLT. >> EARLY IN PERSON OR ON ELECTION DAY EACH STATE HAS ITS OWN SET OF RULES THE WAY WE CAST OUR BOUNDS. YES, IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO FIGURE IT >> TAKE 15 MINUTES PLAYING YOUR VOTE. >> AND SOME PLACES THE POLLS ARE ALREADY OPEN MAKE SURE YOUR VOICE IS HER PLAN YOUR VOTE AND YOUR VOTE PLAN YOUR VOTES. >> WELCOME BACK THE STAGE IS LITERALLY SAT IN NASHVILLE WERE LESS THAN 10 MINUTES AWAY NOW FROM THE START OF THE FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE OF 2020 IT'S GOOD TO NBC'S PETER ALEXANDER WHO IS IN NASHVILLE. THIS MORNING. PETER YOU'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN WHAT'S THE MOOD RIGHT NOW. >> WELL THEY FEEL GOOD, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE PREPARE THEY WANT JOE BIDEN TO SHOW HIMSELF TO BE STEADY STABLE AND COMPETENT HERE THEY ALSO HIS AIDES HAVE BEEN SUGGESTING HE MAY GO ON OFFENSE ON TONIGHT. I THINK BARACK OBAMA IS BLISTERING CRITIQUE OF DONALD TRUMP THAT WE SAW YESTERDAY ON THE TRAIL MAY HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A PREVIEW TO TRY TO KEEP THE PRESSURE ON PRESIDENT TRUMP'S HANDLING OF THE PANDEMIC SAYING THAT HE HAS FAILED ON THAT ISSUE ON THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT THEY POINT TO DONALD TRUMP'S OWN COMMENTS FROM THIS NEW INTERVIEW WITH 60 MINUTES WHERE HE SAID THAT HE HOPED THAT THE SUPREME COURT WOULD GET RID OF IT, BUT HAS STRUGGLED TO ARTICULATE WHAT IF ANY PLAN HE IS PROPOSING TO REPLACE AND NOW 4 YEARS INTO HIS PRESIDENCY AND WHILE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF TALK LIKELY ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN DONALD TRUMP EXPECTED TO GO ON OFFENSE ON THAT THE CAMPAIGN IS BLOWING THAT OFF DISMISSING IT AS RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION IN FACT THEY SAY THAT BIDEN SHOULD GO ON OFFENSE AT DONALD TRUMP SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO NEW REPORTING THAT HIS COMPANY HAS A BANK ACCOUNT IN CHINA THAT HE'S PURSUED. BUSINESS DEALINGS IN THAT COUNTRY FOR YEARS AS BARACK OBAMA PUT IT IF I HAD IN THE BANK ACCOUNT LIKE THAT THEY CALLED ME BEIJING VERY LOOK FOR THAT IS ANOTHER POSSIBLE POINT FOR BIDEN TO TRY TO GO ON OFFENSE TONIGHT ALL RIGHT PETER, THANK YOU JEFF BENNETT IS AT THE WHITE HOUSE CHEF WHAT'S THE THINKING INSIDE THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN RIGHT NOW. >> LEICESTER I'LL TELL YOU THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN SAYS THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES AND THE TIME TO TURN THIS RACE AROUND EVEN THOUGH JOE BIDEN IS EDGING OUT DONALD TRUMP. BOTH NATIONALLY AND IN THOSE BATTLEGROUND STATES ACCORDING TO POLLS AND EVEN THOUGH AS TEAM BIDEN IS REALLY CRUSHING TEAM TRUMP IN THE FUND-RAISING RACE, THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN AND AFFILIATED COMMITTEES OUTRAISED THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN BY SOME 130 MILLION DOLLARS. LAST MONTH A WORD ABOUT THE POLLS THOUGH PRESIDENT TRUMP IN AN INTERVIEW HE GAVE THIS WEEK SAID HE DOESN'T BELIEVE THE POLLS. HE SAYS ALL THE POLLS ARE FAKE AND BASED ON WHAT HAPPENED IN 2016 YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY HE WOULD THINK THAT BUT THE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEN AND NOW BECAUSE AT THIS 0.4 YEARS AGO HILLARY CLINTON WAS LEADING DONALD TRUMP AND NOW IT'S JOE BIDEN LEADING PRESIDENT TRUMP. BIDEN'S LEAD IS BIGGER THAN HILLARY CLINTON'S WAS 4 YEARS AGO, AND OF COURSE RIGHT NOW PRESIDENT TRUMP IS THE INCUMBENT HE'S NOT SOME SORT OF OUTSIDE INSURGENT AND RIGHT NOW PRESIDENT TRUMP FACES THE WORST POLLING POSITION FOR ANY SITTING PRESIDENT SEEKING REELECTION SINCE GEORGE H W BUSH BACK IN 1992, SO HOW DOES HE TURN THAT AROUND CAMPAIGN BELIEVES BY BEING LASER FOCUSED ON THE ECONOMY TONIGHT AND BY MAKING A DIRECT PITCH, A DIRECT APPEAL TO WOMEN VOTERS, OLDER VOTERS AND THOSE WHITE WORKING CLASS VOTERS WITHOUT COLLEGE EDUCATIONS THOSE KEY VOTING BLOCS THAT HELPED PROPEL DONALD TRUMP BECOMING PRESIDENT TRUMP BACK IN 2016 WHO POLLS SHOW RIGHT NOW MANY WAYS PEELING OFF BIT BY BIT TO JOE BIDEN LEFT SO THERE'S AND THERE'S THE FIRST LADY THERE WE SO DOCTOR BIDEN AS WELL MISTER YOU SEE MEMBERS OF THE TRUMP FAMILY ARE THERE NOW THEY ARE WEARING. >> THEIR MASKS THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS MANY PEOPLE ARE WONDERING GOING INTO TONIGHT THE DEBATE COMMISSION MADE CLEAR IF YOU DON'T WEAR YOUR MASK, YOU DON'T STAY IN THE FOR MORE PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE. >> IN JUST 5 MINUTES HOW PAST DEBATES HAVE AFFECTED THE RACE FOR THE WHITE HOUSE I THINK WE NEED A HISTORIAN LET'S BRING IN NBC NEWS PRESIDENTIAL HISTORIAN MICHAEL BESCHLOSS AND MICHAEL THERE REALLY ARE THOSE KIND OF FEW SET PIECES MAKE OR BREAK MOMENT, AND THERE HAVE BEEN DEBATES IN THE PAST WHERE FOLKS LIKE YOU LOOK AT IT NOW AND SAY YEAH THAT WAS THE MOMENT THAT WAS THE WATERSHED THAT'S EITHER TURNED FOR A CANDIDATE OR WAS LOCKED AND NEVER TO BE REPAIRED IS THAT HOW YOU SEE TONIGHT POTENTIALLY. >> ABSOLUTELY RIGHT SO THEN UP 5 MINUTES FROM NOW A DEBATE IS GOING TO START THE STAKES COULD NOT BE HIGHER. THIS IS THE LAST TIME THE DONALD TRUMP AND JOE BIDEN TOGETHER WILL REACH AN AUDIENCE OF THE KIND THAT WE SEE TONIGHT COULD EVEN BE AS HIGH AS A 100 MILLION PEOPLE NOTHING THEY CAN DO IN THE NEXT 12 DAYS. WE'LL HAVE THIS KIND OF EFFECT SO WHAT WE HEAR TONIGHT COULD HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH WHO IS GOING TO BECOME PRESIDENT NEXT 1981 DEBATE RONALD REAGAN JIMMY CARTER THERE WERE 10% UNDECIDED THE 2 CANDIDATES WERE JUST ABOUT TIED AND RONALD REAGAN MANAGED IN THAT DEBATE TO CONVINCE THAT 10% THAT HE WAS PRESIDENTIAL HE WOULD NOT GET INVOLVED IN A WAR WITH AS MANY WERE WORRIED ABOUT BECAME NOT ONLY PRESIDENT THAT NIGHT. >> BUT HE WON BY A LANDSLIDE IS IT A FEELING HERE IS THAT A MOMENT THE GENERALLY DRIVES THESE THINGS OTHER WORDS IS AFTER 90 MINUTES, YOU BEGIN TO FEEL A CLOSENESS TO THE CANDIDATE OR IS THAT THAT LINE THAT MEMORABLE LINE THAT SOMETIMES PUT SOME OVER THE TOP. AND OFTEN TIMES OF LEICESTER CAN BE A MOMENT WHERE CANADA DISQUALIFIES HIMSELF. >> SECOND DEBATE BETWEEN GEORGE H W BUSH AND MICHAEL DUKAKIS 1988 FIRST QUESTION FROM BERNIE SHAW, CNN OF DUKAKIS WAS IF HIS WIFE WERE RAPED AND MURDERED WOULD HE SUPPORT AN IRREVOCABLE DEATH PENALTY FOR THE KILLER. THE OBJECT OF THE QUESTION WAS A SHOW DUKAKIS WHO IS HUMANITY. HE THREW IT AWAY IN A BUREAUCRATIC ROBOTIC ANSWER AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WE NOW KNOW FROM POLL SAID THAT IS NOT SOMEONE I WAS WANT TO SEE IS MY PRESIDENT FROM THAT MOMENT ON GEORGE HW BUSH WAS. >> VIRTUALLY IRREVOCABLY AHEAD YOU'RE GETTING A LOOK AT OUR DEAR FRIEND. KRISTEN WELKER ADDRESSING THE CROWD IN THE HOLE RIGHT NOW I'M LESTER THAT'S A JOB YOU HAD 4 YEARS AGO YEARS AGO OUTSIDE TELL YOU SOMETHING I SHARED WITH HER THAT >> IT'S A VERY LONELY MOMENT WHEN YOU TURN YOUR BACK AND YOU SIT THERE AND YOU LOOK AT THESE VERY TO POWERFUL PEOPLE IN THE REALIZE IT'S YOU KNOW YOU'VE DONE YOU'VE DONE YOUR HOMEWORK. >> BUT YOU'VE ALSO WATCH WEEKS OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT YOU AND CABLE TV WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO WHAT YOUR POLITICAL LEANINGS ARE SO LONELY PLACE, YEAH, AND THIS THAT HAS MENTIONED THE STAKES ARE HIGH BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT WORLD IN OUR POLITICS OF UNFORTUNATELY HAVE TURNED WHERE THE MODERATOR IS OFTEN FAIR GAME KRISTEN WELKER'S HAD TO WITHSTAND SOME OF THAT IN THE LAST FEW DAYS WE CAN SAY AND BE A LITTLE EDITORIAL CARE THIS IS OUR COLLEAGUE AND OUR FRIEND AND WE KNOW THAT SHE WILL DO A WONDERFUL JOB AND BE FAIR TO BOTH SIDES AND HERE SHE SITS DOWN WE'LL BE BACK IN A FEW MOMENTS AND THE DEBATE WILL BE UNDERWAY IN EARNEST. YOU'RE WATCHING NBC NEWS OUR COVERAGE OF THE FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE OF THE 2020 ELECTION TIME. ♪ >> WE'RE ALL CONDITIONS ALLOWING THEM TO PUSH THE FLAMES AWAY FROM ♪ >> HOMES, BUT THE WIN CAN CHANGE ALL OF THIS ON A DIME. WE CAN CONTINUE TO EXPECT PROTESTS AS PEOPLE CONTINUE TO CALL FOR MORE ANSWERS TO WHAT HAPPENED AND CONTINUE TO FALL FOR THAT ACCOUNTABILITY. >> STARTING TO FEEL LIKE A TYPICAL GENERAL ELECTION BOTH CANDIDATES ACTUALLY OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL MAKING THEIR PITCH ♪ TO VOTERS. >> THE MOMENT THAT REALLY UNDERSTAND WHO WE ARE WHO WE SAY WE ARE IS RIGHT HERE AT OUR FEET. ♪ >> PROTESTS BROKE OUT CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC THE STORY. EMERGENCY APPROVAL TO TREAT COVID-19 PLASMA, MANY QUESTIONS REMAIN ABOUT HOW WELL IT WORKS FROM EVERY ANGLE HOW MUCH OF THE INCREASED TENSION WAS DUE TO THE MILITIAS THAT CAME HERE ON THE GROUND DEAD LEAVING WESTERN WILDFIRES, CALIFORNIA ENTIRE COMMUNITIES WERE ALSO WIPED OFF THE MAP AND IN DEATH ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS IS INDOOR AIR QUALITY WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ♪ ADDRESS THAT. >> NBC NIGHTLY NEWS WITH LESTER HOLT. >> EARLY IN PERSON OR ON ELECTION DAY EACH STATE HAS ITS OWN SET OF RULES THE WAY WE CAST OUR YES, IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO FIGURE IT >> TAKE 15 MINUTES PLAYING WE WERE OUT THERE. >> AND SOME PLACES THE POLLS ARE ALREADY OPEN MAKE SURE YOUR VOICE IS HER PLAN YOUR VOTE AND YOUR VOTE PLAN YOUR VOTES. ♪ >> THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE FEWER LESTER HOLT AND SAVANNAH GUTHRIE. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE WELCOME TO OUR COVERAGE OF THE SECOND AND FINAL 2020 PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE REPUBLICAN INCUMBENT PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP AND HIS DEMOCRATIC CHALLENGER FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN. >> ABOUT TO TAKE THE STAGE WITH THE ELECTION NOW JUST 12 DAYS AWAY BUT KEEP IN MIND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VOTING NOW FOR WEEKS IN SOME PLACES. >> THE STAKES ARE HIGHER THAN EVER TONIGHT IS THE BEST LAST CHANCE IF YOU WILL FOR THE CANDIDATES TO MAKE THEIR CASE TO A NATIONAL LOT AGAINST BEFORE ELECTION DAY ON NOVEMBER 3RD THE CANDIDATES ARE GOING TO FACE OFF IN JUST A FEW MOMENTS ABOUT 3 MINUTES AWAY THERE'S A STAGE BELMONT UNIVERSITY IN NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE. NOW YOU MAY REMEMBER THE FIRST DEBATE IT WAS FILLED WITH INTERRUPTIONS QUITE AN ORTHODOX. >> THE COMMISSION ON PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES DECIDED THEN TO CHANGE THE RULES A BIT. >> YEAH, THE MICROPHONE OF THE CANDIDATE WHO ISN'T SPEAKING WILL BE MUTED FOR THE FIRST 2 MINUTES OF EACH A SEPARATE DEBATE TOPIC, LET'S GET IT WOULD SEEM TO SAY AND THIS IS WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT WEEKEND TODAY. KRISTEN WELKER IS MODERATING TONIGHT'S DEBATE THE DEBATE COMMISSION SAYS SHE WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FACT CHECKING THE CANDIDATES BUT OUR TEAM OF CORRESPONDENTS AND ANALYSTS IS STANDING BY TO DO JUST THAT AND FOR REAL-TIME FACT-CHECKING YOU CAN GO TO NBC NEWS DOT COM JUST A FEW MOMENTS AGO THE GUESTS HAVE NOW BEEN SEATED THE CANDIDATES ARE WAITING TO TAKE THE STAGE, LET'S GET TO NBC'S CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT HALLIE ♪ JACKSON SHE'S INSIDE THE DEBATE HALL HALEIGH SET THE SCENE. >> SAVANNAH SO MUCH ANTICIPATION HERE AT BELMONT UNIVERSITY TONIGHT YOU CAN HEAR A PIN DROP IN THE ROOM BEFORE THESE 2 CANDIDATES WALK OUT ON STAGE TO BEGIN THEIR FINAL FACEOFF WATCH FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP TO GO AFTER FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN'S SON HUNTER BIDEN AND AND VERIFY E-MAILS ABOUT HIS BUSINESS DEALINGS, A STORY THAT MANY INTELLIGENCE EXPERTS SAY HAS ALL THE HALLMARKS OF A FOREIGN INTERFERENCE CAMPAIGN FOR HIS PART JOE BIDEN IS EXPECTED TO KEEP HIS FOCUS SQUARELY ON THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC AND THE PRESIDENT'S RESPONSE TO THAT GETTING HIS MESSAGE DIRECTLY TO AMERICAN VOTERS. THERE IS THE POTENTIAL OF COURSE FOR INTERRUPTIONS ALTHOUGH THE MY COMMUTING THAT YOU DISCUSSED AT THE TOP OF THE BROADCAST COULD HELP THAT WE SHOULD NOTE THAT MODERATOR KRISTEN WELKER IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT MUTE BUTTON THAT FALLS ON THE COMMISSION ON PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES SO THAT ALL RIGHT HALLEY NBC'S POLITICAL DIRECTOR AND MODERATOR OF MEET THE PRESS CHUCK TODD WILL BE WATCHING ALONG WITH HIS TRUCK WOULD HAVE LAID OUT WHAT'S WHAT'S AT STAKE HERE TONIGHT. >> WELL THIS IS DONALD TRUMP'S LAST CHANCE TO CHANGE THE TRAJECTORY OF THIS RACE BUT LET'S LET'S BE REALISTIC HERE. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT TONIGHT IS EVERYBODY AROUND DONALD TRUMP IS TOTAL BODY NEEDS TO DO THE QUESTION IS WILL HE CHANGE HIS BEHAVIOR FROM THE FIRST DEBATE. THE FIRST DID REAL DAMAGE TO HIS CAMPAIGN. HE HAS TO HAVE A GOOD DEBATE PERFORMANCE TONIGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF HE CAN IF HE'S OBSESSED WITH HONOR BIDEN I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HAVE A GOOD DEBATE PERFORMANCE IF HE DOES THAT. >> I CHECKED AND WE KNOW THEY TOOK DOWN THE PLEXIGLASS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT UP THERE EARLIER DECIDING THAT IT WASN'T NECESSARY. WE SAW BOTH OF THE CANDIDATES ARRIVE HERE JUST A SHORT TIME AGO AND HAVE BEEN IN THEIR HOLDING ROOMS NOW ABOUT TO COME FOR WHAT WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO BE 3RD DEBATE BUT ENDS UP BEING THE SECOND AND FINAL DEBATE BETWEEN THESE 2 MEN WERE ABOUT 10 SECONDS AWAY KRISTEN WELKER AT THE READY THERE ARE 6 SEGMENTS 15 MINUTES, EACH. >> AND 2 MINUTES STATEMENT BY EACH CANDIDATE AT THE TOP FOLLOWED BY DISCUSSION. AND SO WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO OUR COLLEAGUE NBC NEWS, KRISTEN WELKER. >> GOOD EVENING FROM BELMONT UNIVERSITY IN NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE. I'M KRISTEN WELKER OF NBC NEWS AND I WELCOME YOU TO THE FINAL 2020 PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE BETWEEN PRESIDENT DONALD J TRUMP AND FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN TONIGHT'S DEBATE IS SPONSORED BY THE COMMISSION ON PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES. IT IS CONDUCTED UNDER HEALTH AND SAFETY PROTOCOLS DESIGNED BY THE COMMISSION'S HEALTH SECURITY ADVISER, THE AUDIENCE HERE IN THE HALL HAS PROMISED TO REMAIN SILENT. NO CHEERS FOODS OR OTHER INTERRUPTIONS EXCEPT RIGHT NOW AS WE WELCOME TO THE STAGE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN AND PRESIDENT DONALD J TRUMP. AND I DO WANT TO SAY A VERY GOOD EVENING TO BOTH OF YOU THIS DEBATE WILL COVER 6 MAJOR TOPICS AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH SECTION EACH CANDIDATE WILL HAVE 2 MINUTES UNINTERRUPTED TO ANSWER MY FIRST QUESTION THE DEBATE COMMISSION WILL THEN TURN ON THEIR MICROPHONE ONLY WHEN IT IS THEIR TURN TO ANSWER AND THE COMMISSION WILL TURN IT OFF EXACTLY WHEN THE 2 MINUTES OF EXPIRE AFTER THAT THOSE MICROPHONES WILL REMAIN ON. BUT ON BEHALF OF THE VOTERS I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE SPEAK ONE AT A TIME. THE GOAL IS FOR YOU TO HEAR EACH OTHER AND FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO HEAR EVERY WORD OF WHAT YOU BOTH HAVE TO SAY AND SO WITH THAT IF YOU'RE READY. LET'S START. WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE FIGHT AGAINST THE CORONAVIRUS PRESIDENT TRUMP, THE FIRST QUESTION IS FOR YOU. THE COUNTRY IS HEADING INTO A DANGEROUS NEW PHASE MORE THAN 40,000 AMERICANS ARE IN THE HOSPITAL TONIGHT WITH COVID INCLUDING RECORD NUMBERS HERE IN TENNESSEE AND SINCE THE 2 OF YOU LAST SHARED A STAGE 16,000 AMERICANS HAVE DIED FROM COVID SO PLEASE BE SPECIFIC HOW WOULD YOU LEAVE THE COUNTRY DURING THIS NEXT STAGE OF THE CORONAVIRUS CRISIS 2 MINUTES UNINTERRUPTED SO AS YOU KNOW 2.2 MILLION PEOPLE. >> MODELED OUT WERE EXPECTED TODAY. >> WE CLOSED UP THE GREATEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD IN ORDER TO FIGHT THIS HORRIBLE DISEASE THAT CAME FROM CHINA. IT'S A WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC SO ALL OVER THE WORLD YOU SEE THE SPIKES IN EUROPE PUT IN MANY OTHER PLACES RIGHT IF YOU NOTICE THE MORTALITY RATE IS DOWN 85%. THE EXCESS MORTALITY RATE IS WAY DOWN AND MUCH LOWER THAN ALMOST ANY OTHER COUNTRY AND WE'RE FIGHTING IT WE'RE FINDING IT HARD TO RESIST SPIKE IT WAS A SPIKE IN FLORIDA AND IT'S NO GUN. THERE WAS A VERY BIG SPIKE IN TEXAS. IT'S NOW GONE. THERE WAS A VERY BIG SPIKE IN ARIZONA. IT'S NOW GUN. AND THERE IS SOME SPIKES IN SEARCHES AND OTHER PLACES THEY WILL SOON BE GUN. WE HAVE A VACCINE. THAT'S COMING IT'S READY. IT'S GOING TO BE ANNOUNCED WITHIN WEEKS AND IT'S GOING TO BE DELIVERED WE HAVE OPERATION WARP SPEED WHICH IS THE MILITARY IS GOING TO DISTRIBUTE THE VACCINE. I CAN TELL YOU FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE I WAS IN THE HOSPITAL I HAD IT AND I GOT BETTER AND I WILL TELL YOU HAD SOMETHING THAT THEY GAVE ME A THERAPEUTIC I GUESS THEY WOULD CALL IT SOME PEOPLE WHO SAY WAS A CURE. I WAS IN FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND I GOT BETTER VERY FAST OR WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT. AND NOW THEY SAY I'M IMMUNE WHETHER IT'S 4 MONTHS OR A LIFETIME, NOBODY'S BEEN ABLE TO SAY THAT BUT I'M I'M IN MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE GETTING BETTER WE A PROBLEM THAT'S A WORLDWIDE PROBLEM, THIS IS A WORLDWIDE PROBLEM, BUT I'VE BEEN CONGRATULATED BY THE HEADS OF MANY COUNTRIES ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO WITH THE IF YOU IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE DONE IN TERMS OF GOGGLES AND MASKS AND GALLONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND IN PARTICULAR VENTILATORS WE'RE NOW MAKING VENTILATORS ALL OVER THE WORLD THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS A MONTH, DISTRIBUTING THEM ALL OVER THE WORLD IT WILL GO AWAY AND AS I SAY WE'RE ROUNDING THE TURN WE'RE ROUNDING THE CORNER IT'S GOING AWAY, OKAY, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN TO YOU HOW WOULD YOU LEAVE THE COUNTRY OUT OF THIS CRISIS. >> YOU HAVE 2 MINUTES UNINTERRUPTED. >> 220,000 AMERICANS DEAD. HERE NOTHING ELSE. I SAY TONIGHT. TO THIS. ANYONE WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR NOT TAKING CONTROL. IN FACT NOT SAYING I'M I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY INITIALLY. ANYONE WHO'S RESPONSE TO THAT MANY SHOULD NOT REMAIN AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE THERE ARE 1000 DEATHS A DAY NOW 1000 S TODAY AND THERE ARE OVER 70,000 NEW CASES PER DAY. COMPARED TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN EUROPE AS THE NEW ENGLAND MEDICAL JOURNAL SAID THEY'RE STARTING FROM A VERY LOW RATE. WE'RE STARTING FROM VERY HIGH RATE. THE EXPECTATION IS WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER 200,000 AMERICANS DEAD. THE TIME BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE YEAR. FOR JUST WORE THESE MASS, THE PRESIDENT'S OWN ADVISERS TOLD HIM YOU CAN SAVE A 100,000 LIVES. AND WE'RE IN A CIRCUMSTANCE FOR THE PRESIDENT THUS FAR IS STILL HAS NO PLAN. NO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHAT I WOULD DO IS MAKE SURE WE HAVE EVERYONE ENCOURAGED TO WEAR A MASK ALL THE TIME I WOULD MAKE SURE WE MOVE IN DIRECTION OF RAPID TESTING INVESTED IN RAPID TESTING THAT WOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE SET UP NATIONAL STANDARDS AS TO HOW TO OPEN UP SCHOOLS AND OPEN UP BUSINESSES SO THEY CAN BE SAFE AND GIVEN THE WHERE WITH ALL THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WE'RE IN A SITUATION NOW WHERE THE NEW ENGLAND MEDICAL JOURNAL ONE OF THE SERIOUS MOST SERIOUS JOURNALS AND THE AND THE WHOLE WORLD SAID FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER THAT THIS THE WAY THIS PRESIDENT HAS RESPOND TO THIS CRISIS HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY TRAGIC AND SO FOLKS. I WILL TAKE CARE OF THIS I WILL END THIS I WILL MAKE SURE WE HAVE A PLAN. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU AND YOUR COMMENTS YOU TALKED ABOUT TAKING A THERAPEUTIC I ASSUME YOU'RE REFERENCING REGENERON YOU ALSO SAID A VACCINE WILL BE COMING WITHIN WEEKS THIS IS THAT A GUARANTEE IT'S NOT A GUARANTEE, BUT IT WILL BE BY THE END OF THE YEAR, BUT I THINK IT HAS A GOOD CHANCE OR 2 COMPANIES I THINK WITHIN A MATTER OF WEEKS AND IT WILL BE DISTRIBUTED VERY QUICKLY TELL US WHICH JOHNSON AND JOHNSON IS DOING VERY ODORS DOING VERY WELL PFIZER IS DOING VERY WELL AND WE HAVE NUMEROUS OTHERS. >> THEN WE ALSO HAVE OTHERS THAT WERE WORKING ON VERY CLOSELY WITH OTHER COUNTRIES IN PARTICULAR EUROPE. >> LET ME FOLLOW UP WITH YOU BECAUSE THIS IS NEW INFORMATION YOU HAVE SAID A VACCINE IS COMING SOON WITHIN WEEKS NOW YOUR OWN OFFICIALS SAY IT COULD TAKE WELL INTO 2021 AT THE EARLIEST FOR ENOUGH AMERICANS TO GET VACCINATED AND EVEN THEN THEY SAY THE COUNTRY WILL BE WEARING MASKS AND DISTANCING IN 2 2022 IS YOUR TIMELINE REALISTIC DO I THINK MY TIMELINE IS GOING TO BE MORE ACCURATE. I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE COUNTING ON THE MILITARY THE WAY I DO, BUT WE HAVE OUR GENERALS LINED UP ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT'S THE. >> HEAD OF LOGISTICS AND THIS IS A VERY EASY DISTRIBUTION FOR HIM HE'S READY TO GO SOON AS WE HAVE THE VACCINE. AND WE EXPECT TO HAVE A 100 MILLION VILES AS SOON AS WE HAVE THE VACCINE, HE'S READY TO GO VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN YOUR REACTION IN JUST 40% OF AMERICANS SAY THEY WOULD DEFINITELY AGREE TO TAKE A CORONAVIRUS VACCINE IF IT WAS APPROVED BY THE GOVERNMENT WHAT STEPS WOULD YOU TAKE TO GIVE AMERICANS CONFIDENCE IN A VACCINE IF IT WERE PROVED MAKE SURE IT'S TOTALLY TRANSPARENT. >> HAVE THE SCIENCE WORLD SEE IT KNOW IT LOOK AT IT GO THROUGH ALL THE PROCESSES AND BY THE WAY. HE THIS IS THE SAME FELLOW TOLD YOU THIS GOING AND MY EASTERN LAST TIME THIS THE SAME FELLOW WHO TOLD YOU THAT DON'T WORRY WE'RE GOING TO END THIS BY THE SUMMER WE'RE ABOUT TO GO INTO A DARK WINTER. >> A DARK WINTER. AND HE HAS NO CLEAR PLAN AND THERE'S NO PROSPECT THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A VACCINE AVAILABLE FOR THE MAJORITY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BEFORE THE MIDDLE OF NEXT YEAR. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP, YOUR REACTION DECISION THAT NO PLAN TO HAVE A DARK WINTER AND AT ALL WE'RE OPENING UP OUR COUNTRY WE'VE LEARNED AND STUDIED UNDERSTAND THE DISEASE WHICH WE DIDN'T AT THE BEGINNING WHEN I CLOSED AND BANDS CHINA FROM COMING IN HEAVILY INFECTED AND THEN ULTIMATELY EUROPE BUT CHINA WAS IN JANUARY MONTHS LATER HE WAS SAYING I WAS IN A PHOBIC I DID IT TOO SOON NOW WE SAY NO I SHOULD HAVE I SHOULD HAVE YOU KNOW MOVE QUICKER. BUT HE DIDN'T MOVE QUICKER. HE WAS MONTHS BEHIND ME MANY MONTHS BEHIND ME AND FRANKLY HERE AND THE H ONE N ONE SWINE FLU AND WAS A TOTAL DISASTER FAR LESS LETHAL. BUT IT WAS A TOTAL DISASTER HAD THAT HAD THIS KIND OF NUMBERS. THE 700,000 PEOPLE WOULD BE DEAD RIGHT NOW. BUT IT IS A FAR LESS LETHAL DISEASE. LOOK HIS OWN PERSON WHO RAN THAT FOR HIM WHO AS YOU KNOW WAS IS A CHIEF OF STAFF SAID IT WAS CATASTROPHIC. IT WAS HORRIBLE. WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE DOING. NOW HE COMES UP AND TELLS US HOW TO DO THIS. ALSO EVERYTHING THAT HE SAID ABOUT THE WAY EVERY SINGLE MOVE THAT HE SAID WE SHOULD MAKE. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE WE'VE DONE ALL OF IT. BUT HE WAS WAY BEHIND US VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN YOUR RESPONSE RESPONSES. HE IS ENOUGH OVER NOT BECAUSE HE SHUT DOWN. >> ACCESS FROM CHINA AND HE DID IT LATE AFTER 40 COUNTRIES THAT ALREADY DONE THAT. IN ADDITION TO THAT WHAT HE DID HE MADE SURE THAT WE HAD 44 PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THERE IN CHINA TRYING TO GET TO MOVE ON TO DETERMINE WHAT EXACTLY THE SOURCE WHO WAS WHAT DID THE PRESIDENT SAY IN JANUARY. HE SAID NO WE SHOULD THIS IS HE'S BEEN TRANSPARENT. THE PRESIDENT OF CHINA'S BE TRANSPARENT. WE OWE HIM A DEBT GRATITUDE WE WE HAVE TO THANK HIM AND AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED WAS WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT USING THAT THE DEFENSE ACT TO MAKE SURE GO OUT AND GET WHATEVER IS NEEDED OUT THERE TO PROTECT PEOPLE AND AGAIN I GO BACK TO THIS HE HAD NOTHING HE DID VIRTUALLY NOTHING AND THEN HE GETS OUT OF THE HOSPITAL AND HE TALKS ABOUT WHERE THIS DON'T WORRY IT'S ALL OVER ME OVER SHOW COME >> THERE'S NOT ANOTHER SERIOUS SCIENTISTS IN WORLD THINKS IT'S GOING TO BE OVER SOON PRESIDENT TRUMP FURY ACTUALLY OVER SOON I SAY WE'RE LEARNING TO LIVE WITH IT WE HAVE NO CHOICE WE CAN'T LOCK OURSELVES UP IN A BASEMENT LIKE YOU KNOW DOES HE IS WE HAS THE ABILITY TO LOCK HIMSELF UP I DON'T KNOW HE'S OBVIOUSLY MADE A LOT OF MONEY SOMEPLACE. BUT HE HAS THIS THING ABOUT LIVING IN A BASEMENT PEOPLE CAN DO THAT BY THE WAY I AS THE PRESIDENT COULDN'T DO THAT I'D LOVE TO PUT MYSELF IN THE BASEMENT DOOR IN A BEAUTIFUL ROOM IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND GO AWAY FOR A YEAR AND A HALF UNTIL IT DISAPPEARS I CAN'T DO THAT AND BECAUSE EVERY TO EVERY MEETING I HAD EVERY MEETING AHEAD AND ADMIT A LOT OF FAMILIES INCLUDING GOLD STAR FAMILIES AND MILITARY FAMILIES. EVERY MEETING I HAD AND HAD TO MEET HIM I HAD TO IT WOULD BE HORRIBLE TO HAVE CANCELED EVERYTHING. I SAID YOU KNOW THIS IS DANGEROUS AND YOU CATCH IT AND YOU KNOW I COULD I LEARNED A LOT. I LEARNED A LOT OF GREAT DOCTORS GREAT HOSPITALS. AND NOW I RECOVERED. >> 99.9 OF YOUNG PEOPLE RECOVER 99% OF PEOPLE RECOVERED. WE HAVE TO RECOVER WE CAN'T CLOSE UP OUR NATION. WE HAVE TO OPEN OUR SCHOOL AND WE CAN'T CLOSE UP OUR NATION OR YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A NATION. >> AND OF COURSE THE CDC HAS SAID YOUNG PEOPLE CAN GET SICK WITH COVID-19 AND CAN PASS IT. VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN WANT TO TALK BROADLY ABOUT STRATEGY. THOUGH YOU RESPOND TO THAT 30 SECONDS QUESTION NUMBER ONE HE SAYS THAT THEY YOU KNOW WE'RE LEARNING TO LIVE WITH IT. >> PEOPLE ARE LEARNING TO DIE WITH IT. YOU FOLKS HAVE AN EMPTY CHAIR AT THE KITCHEN TABLE THIS MORNING THAT MANNER WIFE GOING TO BED REACHING OVER TO TRY TO TOUCH HER OUT OF HABIT WHERE THEIR WIFE OR HUSBAND WAS IS GONE, LEARNING TO LIVE WITH IT COME WE'RE DYING WITH YOU BECAUSE HE'S NEVER SAID THE CITY SHOULD HE STAY INJURES WHEN'S THE LAST TIME IS A REALLY DANGEROUS STILL WE DANGER SHOULD TELL THE PEOPLE AS DANGEROUS NOW WHAT SHOULD THEY DO ABOUT THE DANGER. AND YOU SAY I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY. >> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR TUESDAY AT J BERRY I TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY. IT'S NOT MY FAULT THAT HE CAME HERE, IT'S CHINA'S FAULT AND YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S NOT JOE'S FAULT THAT IT CAME HERE EITHER IT'S CHINA'S FAULT, THEY KEPT IT FROM GOING INTO THE REST OF CHINA FOR THE MOST PART, BUT THEY DIDN'T KEEP IT FROM COMING OUT TO THE WORLD, INCLUDING EUROPE AND OURSELVES. >> VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN FACT IS THAT WHEN WE KNEW WAS COMING WHEN IT HIT. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PRESIDENT SAY HE SAID DON'T WORRY IT'S GOING TO GO AWAY. A STIR DON'T WORRY YOU CAN WARM WEATHER STILL WORRY MAYBE INJECT BLEACH. HE SAID HE WAS KIDDING WHEN HE SAID THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS SERIOUS A WHOLE RANGE OF THINGS THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID EVEN TODAY HE THINKS WE ARE IN CONTROL. WE'RE ABOUT TO LOSE 200,000 MORE PEOPLE. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP LOOK PERHAPS JUST TO FINISH THIS. I WAS KIDDING AND THAT BUT JUST TO FINISH THIS. ONE EYE CLOSED. HE SAID I SHOULDN'T HAVE CLOSED. AND THAT WENT ON FOR MONTHS WHAT NANCY PELOSI SAID THE SAME THING SHE WAS DANCING IN THE STREETS IN CHINATOWN IN SAN FRANCISCO. BUT ONE EYE CLOSED. HE SAID THIS IS A TERRIBLE THING IS BUT I THINK HE CALLED ME RACIST EVEN AND BECAUSE I WAS CLOSING IT TO CHINA NOW HE SAYS THEY SHOULD HAVE CLOSED IT EARLIER. IT JUST JOE IT DOESN'T WRITE AND SAY EITHER OF THOSE THINGS YOU I TALKED ABOUT IS BE IN A DIFFERENT CONTEXT, IT WASN'T ABOUT. >> CLOSING THE BORDER TO CHINESE. >> I'M COMING TO THE UNITED STATES ALL RIGHT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT BOTH OF YOUR DIFFERENT STRATEGIES TO HAND THE THOUGHTS I SHOULDN'T HAVE CLOSED THE BORDER BULLETS THAT'S OBVIOUS. IS THAT YOU WOULD RESPOND TO THAT QUICKLY. VICE PRESIDENT MIKE OKAY, LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR DIFFERENT STRATEGIES FOR DEALING WITH THIS MISTER VICE PRESIDENT YOU SUGGESTED HE WOULD SUPPORT NEW SHUTDOWNS OF SCIENTISTS RECOMMENDED WHAT DO YOU SAY TO AMERICANS WHO ARE FEARFUL THAT THE COST OF SHUTDOWNS THE IMPACT ON THE ECONOMY. THE HIGH RATES OF HUNGER DEPRESSION, DOMESTIC AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE OUTWEIGHS THE RISK OF EXPOSURE THE VIRUS WHEN I WOULD SAY IS I'M GOING TO SHUT DOWN THE VIRUS THAT THE COUNTRY. >> IT'S HIS INEPTITUDE THE CAUSE THE VIRUS ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO HAVE TO SHUT DOWN IN LARGE PART. WHY BUSINESSES OCON UNDER WHY SCHOOLS ARE CLOSED WHY SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE LOST OR ARE LIVING AND WHY THEY'RE CONCERNED THOSE OTHER CONCERNS ARE REAL THAT'S WHY HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN INSTEAD OF IN A SAND TRAP OF THIS GOLF COURSE HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH NANCY PELOSI AND THE REST OF THE DEMOCRATS REPUBLICANS ABOUT WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE ACTS THAT ARE PASSING FOR BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE HAD THE CAPACITY FOR YOU HAVEN'T RULED OUT MORE SHUTDOWNS WALLNOW HAD NOT SHUTTING BUT THERE ARE LOOK. THEY NEED STANDARDS THE STANDARD IS IF YOU HAVE A REPRODUCTION RATE IN THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S ABOVE A CERTAIN LEVEL, EVERYBODY SAYS SLOW UP. MORE SOCIAL DISSES SEE DO NOT OPEN BARS AND DO NOT OPEN GYMNASIUMS DO NOT OPEN UNTIL YOU GET THIS UNDER CONTROL OR CONTROL BUT WHEN YOU DO OPEN GIVE THE PEOPLE THE CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO OPEN AND HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO IT SAFELY FOR EXAMPLE SCHOOLS, SCHOOLS, THEY NEED A LOT OF MONEY TO GROW AND THEY NEEDED TO DO AND VENTILATION SYSTEM THE NEED TO DO WITH SMALLER CLASSES, MORE TEACHERS, MORE PODS AND HE'S REFUSED TO SUPPORT THAT MONEY OR LEAST UP TO NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT SCHOOLS. PRESIDENT HAVE TO RESPOND POLICE AND THEN I HAVE A FALL LIKE YOU AND I APPRECIATE THAT. >> LOOK ALL HE DOES IS TALK ABOUT SHUTDOWNS BUT FORGET ABOUT HIM HIS DEMOCRAT GOVERNORS CUOMO NEW YORK. YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON IN CALIFORNIA YOU LOOK AT PENNSYLVANIA NORTH CAROLINA DEMOCRATS THIS SHUTDOWN SO TIGHT. >> AND THEN DYING THE DYING. >> AND HE SUPPORTS THESE PEOPLE. ALL HE TALKS ABOUT HIS SHUTDOWNS NO WE'RE NOT GOING TO SHUT DOWN AND WE HAVE TO OPEN OUR SCHOOLS AND IT'S LIKE AS AN EXAMPLE HAVE A YOUNG SON HE ALSO TESTED POSITIVE. BY THE TIME I SPOKE TO THE DOCTOR THE SECOND TIME HE WAS FINE IT JUST WENT AWAY YOUNG PEOPLE. >> I GUESS IT'S THEIR IMMUNE SYSTEM LET ME FOLLOW UP WITH THE PRESIDENT TRUMP YOU DEMANDED SCHOOLS OPEN IN PERSON AND INSIST THEY CAN DO IT SAFELY BUT JUST YESTERDAY, BOSTON BECAME THE LATEST CITY TO MOVE ITS PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM ENTIRELY ONLINE AFTER A CORONAVIRUS PIKE WHAT IS YOUR MESSAGE TO PARENTS WHO WORRY THAT SENDING THEIR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL IN DANGER NOT ONLY THEIR KIDS BUT ALSO THEIR TEACHERS AND FAMILIES I WANT TO OPEN THE THE TRANSMITTAL RATE TO THE BEACHES. A VERY SMALL. >> BUT I WANT TO OPEN THE SCHOOLS WE HAVE TO OPEN A COUNTRY WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A COUNTRY. YOU CAN'T DO THIS WE CAN'T KEEP THIS COUNTRY CLOSE BECAUSE A MASSIVE COUNTRY WITH A MASSIVE ECONOMY PEOPLE ARE LOSING THEIR JOBS TO COMMITTING SUICIDE THIS DEPRESSION ALCOHOL DRUGS AT A LEVEL THAT NOBODY'S EVER SEEN BEFORE THIS ABUSE TREMENDOUS ABUSE. WE HAVE TO OPEN OUR COUNTRY. YOU KNOW, I'VE SAID IT OFTEN THE CURE CANNOT BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF. BUT THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING AND HE WANTS TO CLOSE DOWN HILL CLOSED DOWN THE COUNTRY IF ONE PERSON IN OUR IN OUR MASSIVE BUREAUCRACY SAYS WE SHOULD CLOSE IT DOWN FACE PRESIDENT BIDEN YOU'RE DEFINITELY NOT TRUE, WE'LL ABLE TO WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE SAME TIME. WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO SAFELY OPEN BUT WOULD THEY NEED RESOURCES TO OPEN. YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU OPEN A BUSINESS. >> HAVE SOCIAL DISTANCING WITHIN THE BUSINESS YOU NEED TO HAVE IF YOU HAVE A RESTAURANT YOU NEED TO HAVE PLEXIGLASS DIVIDERS SO PEOPLE CAN NOT IN FACT ONE ANOTHER YOU NEED TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE YOU CAN TAKE TESTING RAPIDLY AND KNOW WHETHER A PERSON IS IN FACT INFECTED, YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO TRACE YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT ALL THE RESOURCES NEEDED TO DO THIS AND THAT IS NOT INCONSISTENT WITH SAYING THAT. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE OPEN SAFELY AND BY THE WAY ALL YOU TEACHERS OUT THERE NOT THAT MANY OF YOU ARE GOING TO DIE, SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT COME ON. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP LET ME FOLLOW UP WITH YOU QUICKLY THOUGH I WILL SAY THIS IF YOU DON'T LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENED TO NEW YORK. IT'S A GHOST AND IT'S A GHOST TOWN AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PLEXIGLASS THESE ARE RESTAURANTS TO DINING BUSINESSES WITH NO MONEY. >> PUTTING A PLEXIGLAS IS UNBELIEVABLY EXPENSIVE AND IT'S NOT THE ANSWER THEN YOU'RE GOING TO SIT THERE IN A CUBICLE WRAPPED AROUND WITH PLASTIC. IT'S BUSINESSES THAT ARE DYING JOE YOU CAN'T DO THAT TO PEOPLE YOU JUST CAN'T TAKE A LOOK AT NEW YORK AND WHAT'S HAPPENED TO MY WONDERFUL CITY FOR FREE SO MANY YEARS I LOVED IT WAS VIBRANT, IT'S DYING, EVERYONE'S LEAVING NEW YORK TAKE A LOOK WHAT SOME NEW YORKERS DONE IN TERMS OF TURNING THE CURVE DOWN IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF PEOPLE DIED. >> AND I DON'T LOOK AT THIS IN TERMS OF HE DOES BLUE STATES AND RED STATES FOR ALL THE UNITED STATES AND LOOK AT THE STATES THAT ARE HAVING SUCH A SPIKE IN THE CORONAVIRUS THERE THE RED STATES THE STATES IN THE MIDWEST TO THE STATES IN THE UPPER MIDWEST THAT'S FOR THE SPIKE IS A COURAGE SIGNIFICANTLY. BUT THEY'RE ALL AMERICANS ALL AMERICANS AND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS SAY WHERE THESE MASK NUMBER ONE MAKE SURE WE GET THE HELP THAT THE BUSINESSES NEED THAT HAS MONEY HAS ALREADY BEEN PASSED TO DO THAT IT'S BEEN OUT THERE SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE SUMMER AND NOTHING'S HAPPENED. >> CREWS IN NEW YORK HAS LOST MORE THAN 40,000 PEOPLE TO 11,000 PEOPLE IN NURSING HOME RESIDENT SPIKE. TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING. IN PENNSYLVANIA, WHERE THEY HAD A CLOSE TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH YOUR FRIEND IN MICHIGAN WHERE HER HUSBAND IS THE ONLY ONE ALLOWED TO DO ANYTHING IT'S BEEN LIKE A PRISON. NOW IT WAS JUST RULED UNCONSTITUTIONAL. TAKE A LOOK AT NORTH CAROLINA. THEY'RE HAVING SPIKES AND THEY'VE BEEN CLOSED AND THEY'RE GETTING KILLED FINANCIALLY WE CAN'T LET THAT HAPPEN JOE YOU CAN'T LET THAT HAPPEN WE HAVE TO OPEN UP. AND WE UNDERSTAND THE DISEASE WE HAVE TO PROTECT OUR SENIORS. WE HAVE TO PROTECT OUR ELDERLY WE HAVE TO PROTECT ESPECIALLY OUR SENIORS WITH HEART PROBLEMS AND DIABETES PROBLEMS AND WE WILL PROTECT WE HAVE THE BEST TESTING IN THE WORLD BY FAR THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SO MANY CASE LET ME FOLLOW UP WITH YOU BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT SECTION PRESIDENT TRUMP THIS WEEK YOU CALLED DOCTOR ANTHONY FAUCI THE NATION'S BEST KNOWN INFECTIOUS DISEASE EXPERT QUOTE A DISASTER. >> YOU DESCRIBED HIM IN OTHER MEDICAL EXPERT SAYS QUOTE IDIOTS IF YOU'RE NOT LISTENING TO THEM WHO ARE YOU LISTENING LISTENING TO ALL OF INCLUDING GET ALONG VERY WELL WITH INTO THE BUT. HE DID SAY DON'T WEAR MASKS. HE DID SAY AS YOU KNOW THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. I THINK HE'S A DEMOCRAT, BUT IT'S OK HE SAID THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM AT ALL WHEN JOE SAYS THAT I SAID ANTHONY FAUCI SAID AND OTHERS AND MANY OTHERS AND I'M NOT KNOCKING HIM LET NOBODY KNOW LOOK NOBODY KNEW WHAT THIS THING WAS NOBODY KNEW WHERE IT WAS COMING FROM WHAT IT WAS. >> WE'VE LEARNED A LOT BUT AN CITY SHOULD DON'T WEAR MASKS NOW HE WANTS TO WEAR MASKS IN CITY ALSO SAID IF YOU LOOK BACK EXACT WORDS USES IT TO COURT. THIS IS NO PROM THIS IS GOING TO GO AWAY SOON SO HE'S ALLOWED TO MAKE MISTAKES HE HAPPENS TO BE A GOOD PERSON VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN YOUR RESPONSE QUICKLY AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SECTION RESPONSES THAT THINK ABOUT WHAT THE PRESIDENT KNEW IN JANUARY DIDN'T TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. >> HE WAS TOLD THIS WAS A SERIOUS FIRES TO SPREAD IN THE AIR AND IT WAS MUCH WORSE AND MUCH WORSE THAN THE FLU. HE WENT ON RECORD AND SAID TO ONE OF YOUR COLLEGE RECORDED THAT IN FACT HE KNEW HOW DANGEROUS IT WAS WE DIDN'T WANT TO TELL US. HE DIDN'T WANT TO TELL A SPEECH IN WANT US TO PANIC. HE DIDN'T WANT AMERICANS DON'T PANIC. HE PENDING, BUT GUESS WHAT IN THE MEANTIME WE FIND OUT THE NEW YORK TIMES OTHER DAY THAT IN FACT HIS FOLKS WENT TO WALL STREET AND SAID THIS IS A REALLY DANGEROUS THING A LOT OF THAT MEETING NOT FROM HIS ADMINISTRATION FOR FROM SOME OF THE BROKERS SAID SELL SHORT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO GET MOVING. >> IT'S A DANGEROUS PROBLEM. THIS RESPOND AND I DON'T KNOW SOMEBODY WENT TO ALSO YOU KNOW THE ONE THAT TAKES ALL THE MONEY FROM WALL STREET. I DON'T TAKE IT. AND YOU HAVE RAISED A LOT OF MONEY, TREMENDOUS AMOUNTS OF MONEY AND EVERY TIME YOU RAISE MONEY DEALS A MAJOR I COULD RAISE SO MUCH MORE MONEY AS PRESIDENT AND AS SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE I THINK ALL THE HEADS OF WALL STREET, THE HEADS OF EVERY COMPANY IN AMERICA. I WOULD BLOW AWAY EVERY RECORD BUT I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT PUTS ME IN A BAD POSITION AND THEN YOU BRING UP WALL STREET, YOU SHOULDN'T BE BRINGING A FORESTRY BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONE THAT TAKES THE MONEY FROM WALL STREET NOT MADE MY I COULD BLOW AWAY HERE RECORDS THAT LIKE YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE WE DON'T NEED MONEY. WE HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY IN FACT. WE BEAT HILLARY CLINTON WITH A TINY FRACTION OF THE MONEY THAT SHE WAS IN MY GENTLEMAN WE'RE GOING VISION $43 ALL RIGHT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT SECTION WHICH IS NATIONAL SECURITY AND I DO WANT TO START WITH THE SECURITY OF OUR ELECTIONS AND SOME BREAKING NEWS FROM OVERNIGHT JUST LAST NIGHT. >> TOP INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS CONFIRMED AGAIN THAT BOTH RUSSIA AND IRAN ARE WORKING TO INFLUENCE THE SELECTION. BOTH COUNTRIES HAVE OBTAINED US VOTER REGISTRATION INFORMATION THESE OFFICIALS SAY AND IRAN SENT INTIMIDATING MESSAGES TO FLORIDA. VOTERS THIS QUESTION GOES TO YOU MISTER VICE PRESIDENT WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO PUT AN END TO THIS THREAT YOU HAVE 2 MINUTES UNINTERRUPTED. I MADE IT CLEAR. >> AND I ASK EVERYONE ELSE TO TAKE THE PLEDGE I MADE IT CLEAR THAT ANY COUNTRY NO MATTER WHO DOES IT INTERFERES IN AMERICAN ELECTIONS WILL PAY A PRICE. THEY WILL PAY A PRICE. IT'S BEEN OVERWHELMINGLY CLEAR THIS ELECTION WILL GAME GET INTO THE LAST ONE THIS ELECTION THAT RUSSIA HAS BEEN INVOLVED CHINA HAS BEEN INVOLVED TO SOME DEGREE AND NOW WE LEARN THAT IRAN IS INVOLVED. THEY WILL PAY A PRICE IF I'M ELECTED THEY'RE INTERFERING WITH AMERICAN SOVEREIGNTY. THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW THERE FREE WITH AMERICAN SOVEREIGNTY. AND THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE I DON'T THINK THE PRESIDENT SAID ANYTHING TO PUTIN ABOUT IT I DON'T THINK HE'S TALKING TO A LOT I DON'T THINK HE SAID A WORD I DON'T KNOW WHY HE HADN'T SAID A WORD TO PUTIN ABOUT IT AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE HAS RECENTLY SAID IF ANYTHING TO THE RIGHT IS MY GUESS IS HE PROBABLY BE MORE OUTSPOKEN WITH REGARD TO THE IRANIANS. BUT THE POINT IS THIS FOLKS WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE FORMED. COMPANY COUNTRIES TRYING TO INTERFERE IN THE OUTCOME OF OUR ELECTION. HIS NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER TOLD HIM THAT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH HIS BODY. WELL GOSH UNFOLD, I WILL HIS BODY RUDY GIULIANI HE'S BEING USED AS A RUSSIAN PAUL AND HE'S BEING FED INFORMATION THAT IS RUSSIAN THAT IS NOT TRUE AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS NOTHING HAPPENS AND THEN YOU FIND OUT THAT EVERYTHING IS GOING ON HERE ABOUT RUSSIA IS WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT I DO NOT GET ELECTED THE NEXT PRESIDENT STATES BECAUSE THEY KNOW I KNOW THEM AND THEY KNOW ME I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS PRESIDENT IS UNWILLING TO TAKE ON PUTIN WHEN HE'S ACTUALLY PAYING BOUNTIES TO KILL AMERICAN SOLDIERS IN AFGHANISTAN, WHEN HE'S ENGAGED IN ACTIVITIES THAT ARE TRYING TO DESTABILIZE ALL OF NATO. I DON'T KNOW WHY HE DOESN'T DO IT, BUT IT'S WORTH ASKING THE QUESTION. WHY ISN'T THAT BEING DONE ANY COUNTRY INTERFERES OF US WILL IN FACT PAY A PRICE BECAUSE THEY'RE AFFECTING OUR SOVEREIGNTY. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP SAME QUESTION TO YOU LET ME LET ME ASK WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO 2 MINUTES TO RESPOND FOR 2 ELECTIONS IN A ROW NOW THERE HAS BEEN SUBSTANTIAL INTERFERENCE FROM FOREIGN ADVERSARIES, WHAT WOULD YOU DO IN YOUR NEXT TERM TO PUT AN END TO THIS 2 MINUTES AND LET ME RESPOND TO THE FIRST PART AS JOANNE GOT 3 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FROM RUSSIA. >> AND IT CAME THROUGH POTENT BECAUSE HE WAS VERY FRIENDLY WITH THE FORMER MAYOR OF MOSCOW, IT WAS THE MAYOR OF MOSCOW HIS WIFE JANE, YOU GOT 3 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS YOUR FAMILY GET 3 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN. YOU KNOW SOME DAY YOU CAN HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHY DID YOU GET 3 HAVE NEVER GOT ANY MONEY FROM RUSSIA, I DON'T GET MONEY FROM RUSSIA. NOW ABOUT YOUR THING LAST NIGHT I KNEW ALL ABOUT THAT AND THROUGH WHO IS JOHN RADCLIFFE WAS FANTASTIC DEANNA HE SAID. THE ONE THING THAT'S COMMON TO BOTH OF THEM. THEY BOTH WANT YOU TO LOSE BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN NOBODY TOUGHER TO RUSSIA BETWEEN THE SANCTIONS NOBODY TOUGHER THAN ME ON RUSSIA. >> BETWEEN THE SANCTIONS BETWEEN ALL OF WHAT I'VE DONE WITH NATE ARE YOU NOT GET THE NATO COUNTRIES TO PUT UP AN EXTRA 130 BILLION GOING TO 420 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. THAT'S TO GUARD AGAINST RUSSIA. I SOLD WELL HE WAS SELLING PILLOWS AND SHEETS. I SOLD TANK BUSTERS TO UKRAINE THERE IS BEEN NOBODY TOUGHER. THE ONE RUSSIA, THEN DONALD TRUMP. I'LL TELL YOU THEY WERE SO BAD THEY TOOK OVER THE THE SUBMARINE PORT YOU REMEMBER THAT VERY WELL DURING YOUR TERM DURING YOU AND BARACK OBAMA THEY TOOK OVER A BIG PART OF WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN UKRAINE YOU HANDED IT TO HIM. BUT GETTING A LOT OF MONEY FROM RUSSIA, THEY WERE PAYING YOU A LOT OF MONEY AND THEY PROBABLY STILL ARE BUT NOW WITH WHAT CAME OUT TODAY IT'S EVEN WORSE ALL OF THE E-MAILS THE E-MAILS A HORRIBLE EMAILS OF THE KIND OF MONEY THAT YOU ARE RAKING IN YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND SHOW YOU A VICE PRESIDENT WHEN SOME OF THIS WAS HAPPENING. AND IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED AND I THINK YOU OWE AN EXPLANATION TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WHY IS IT SOMEBODY JUST HAD A NEWS CONFERENCE A LITTLE WHILE AGO WHO WAS ESSENTIALLY SUPPOSED TO WORK WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. BUT WHAT HE SAID WAS DAMNING AND REGARDLESS OF ME I THINK YOU HAVE TO CLEAN IT UP AND TALK TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE MAYBE CAN DO IT RIGHT NOW. >> VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN YOU MAY RESPOND TO STATION AND THEN I KIND OF FOLLOW UP ON THE ELECTION SECURITY I HAVE NOT TAKEN A PENNY FROM ANY FOREIGN SOURCE EVER IN MY LIFE. WE LEARNED THAT THIS PRESIDENT PAID 50 TIMES THE TAX IN CHINA HAS A SECRET BANK ACCOUNT WITH CHINA DOES BUSINESS IN CHINA AND IN FACT IS TALKING ABOUT ME TAKING MONEY I'VE NOT TAKEN A SINGLE PENNY FROM ANY COUNTRY WHAT SO EVER EVER NUMBER ONE NUMBER 2. THIS IS A PRESIDENT I HAVE RELEASED ALL OF MY TAX RETURNS 22 YEARS GO LOOK AT THEM. 22 YEARS MIGHT ACTUALLY TURN YOU HAVE NOT RELEASED A SINGLE SOLITARY YEAR OF YOUR TAX RETURN. WHAT ARE YOU HIDING. WHY ARE YOU ON WILL EACH TO FOREIGN COUNTRIES ARE PAYING YOU A LOT. RUSSIA'S PAIN YOU A LOT CHINA'S PAIN LIFE AND YOUR HOTELS AND ALL YOUR BUSINESSES ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY. ALL AROUND THE WORLD AND CHINA IS BUILDING A NEW ROAD TO A NEW GALLUP, GOLF COURSE YOU HAVE OVERSEAS SO WHAT'S GOING ON HERE WHAT IT REALLY SHOULD TAX RETURN OR STOP TALKING ABOUT CORRUPTION. PRESIDENT TRUMP, YOUR RESPONSE SO I CALLED MY CANS. >> UNDER AUDIT, I'M GOING TO RELEASE THEM AS SOON AS WE CAN I WANT TO DO IT AND IT SHOW HOW SUCCESSFUL HOW GREAT THIS. COMPANY IS BUT MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT PEOPLE WERE SAYING $750. I ASKED HIM A WEEK AGO, I SAID WHAT DO THEY PAY. THEY SAID SIR YOU PREPAID 10'S OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PREPAID MY TEXT TENSE OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS, 10'S OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PREPAID BECAUSE AT SOME POINT THEY THINK IT'S AN ESTIMATE THEY THINK I MAY HAVE TO PAY TAX SO I ALREADY PREPAID NOBODY TOLD ME THAT FUTURE COW. BUT BELIEVE ME IT WAS AN UNWRITTEN WHENEVER THEY WRITE THIS IF THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT $750 WHICH I THINK IS A FILING FEE. BUT LET ME JUST TELL I PREPAID MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TAXES. NUMBER ONE NUMBER 2, I DON'T MAKE MONEY FROM CHINA YOU DO I DON'T MAKE MONEY FROM UKRAINE YOU DO I DON'T MAKE MONEY FROM RUSSIA. >> HE MADE 3 AND HALF MILLION DOLLARS JOE AND YOU SON GAVE YOU THEY EVEN HAVE A STATEMENT THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE 10% TO THE BIG MAN YOU THE BIG MAN I THINK I DON'T KNOW MAYBE NOT BUT YOU'RE THE BIG MAN I THINK HIS SENSE OF WE HAVE TO GIVE 10% TO THE BIG MAN. >> JOE WHAT'S IT ALL ABOUT IT'S TERRIBLE HARD GENTLEMEN, I WANT TO ASK YOU BOTH SOME WE'LL LET YOU BOTH RESPOND VERY QUICKLY, YOU JUST SAID YOU SPOKE TO YOUR ACCOUNT IS A POTENTIALLY RELEASE YOUR TAXES DID HE TELL YOU WHEN YOU CAN RELEASE HIM DO HIS SHOPPING IS DEADLINE WHEN YOU'RE GOING RELEASE, I GET MARRIED IT WILL WORSEN THE TEA PARTY, GOOD CHANGES. A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THEIR DEEP DOWN IN THE IRS THEY TREAT ME HORRIBLY WE MADE A DEAL WAS ALL SETTLED UNTIL I DECIDE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT. I GET TREATED VERY BADLY BY THE IRS VERY UNFAIRLY. BUT WE HAD A DEAL DONE AS SOON AS WE ARE COMPLETED WITH THE DEAL I WANT TO RELEASE IT, BUT I HAVE PAID MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND I IT'S WORSE THAN PAY. I PAID IN ADVANCE IS QUOTE PRE PAYING YOUR TAXES I PAY TO THAT I WANT TO ASK YOU MOST ABOUT QUESTIONS REGARDING YOUR POTENTIAL FOREIGN ENTANGLEMENTS IN QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED TO GIVE YOU BOTH A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THIS MORE BROADLY RESPOND VERY QUICKLY AND THEN WE'LL GET TO MY QUESTION WHY DID THE HE'S BEEN SAYING THIS FOR 4 YEARS. >> SHOW US JUST SHOW US STOP PLAYING AROUND. >> YOU'VE BEEN SAYING FOR 4 YEARS LATER T-SHIRT ACTUALLY NOBODY KNOWS MISTER PRESIDENT THEY DO KNOW AS YOU'RE NOT PAYING YOUR TAXES OR YOU'RE PAYING TAXES THAT ARE SO LOW WHEN LAST TIME HE SAID WHAT HE PAID HE SAID I ONLY PAY THAT LITTLE BECAUSE I'M SMART I KNOW HOW TO GAME THE SYSTEM. >> COME ON FOLKS SO PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THEN I WANT TO GET TO 2 QUESTIONS TO BOTH OF YOU VIEWERS BY WAS PUT THROUGH A PHONY WITCH HUNT. FOR 3 YEARS. IT STARTED BEFORE EVEN GOT ELECTED. THEY SPIED MY CAMPAIGN NO PRESIDENT SHOULD EVER HAVE TO GO THROUGH WHAT I WENT THROUGH LET ME JUST SAY THIS MUELLER AND 18 ANGRY DEMOCRATS AND FBI AGENTS ALL OVER THE PLACE SPEND 48 MILLION DOLLARS. THEY WENT THROUGH EVERYTHING I HAD INCLUDING MY TAX RETURNS AND THEY FOUND ABSOLUTELY NO COLLUSION AND NOTHING WRONG. 48 MILLION. I GUARANTEE DEVICE THAN 1 MILLION A NEW JAIL I COULD FIND PLENTY WRONG BECAUSE I KIND OF THINGS THAT YOU'VE DONE AND THE KIND OF MONIES THAT YOUR FAMILY IS TAKEN. I MEAN YOU BROTHER MADE MONEY IN A RATTY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS HERE OTHER BREAD FOR THE MADE A FORTUNE AND IT'S COOL 3 JOE AND THEY SAY YOU GET SOME OF IT AND YOU DO LIVE VERY WELL, YOU HAVE HOUSES ALL OVER THE PLACE YOU VERY WELL ALL RIGHT GENTLEMEN, LET ME JUST ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT ALL OF THIS PROBABLY VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WORK YOUR SON HAS DONE IN CHINA AND. >> FOR UKRAINIAN ENERGY COMPANY WHEN YOU'RE VICE PRESIDENT IN RETROSPECT WAS ANYTHING ABOUT THOSE RELATIONSHIPS INAPPROPRIATE OR UNETHICAL. >> NOTHING WAS UNETHICAL. HERE'S WHAT THE DEAL. WITH REGARD TO UKRAINE. WE HAD THIS WHOLE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT BECAUSE HE WAS ON THE BOARD I LATER LEARNED OF A BREEZE MONTH. A COMPANY THAT SOMEHOW I DON'T SOMETHING WRONG. YET EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY PERSON WHEN HE WAS GOING THROUGH HIS IMPEACHMENT TESTIFYING UNDER OATH TO WORK FOR HIM SAID I DID MY JOB IS COMPLETE. I CARRIED OUT US POLICY NOT ONE SINGLE SOLITARY THING WAS ONLINE NOT A SINGLE THING. NUMBER ONE NUMBER 2. THE GUY WHO GOT IN TROUBLE IN UKRAINE WAS A SKYPE TRYING TO BRIBE THE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT TO SAY SOMETHING NEGATIVE ABOUT ME WHICH THEY WOULD NOT DO IN DID NOT DO BECAUSE IT NEVER EVER EVER HAPPENED. MY SON HAS NOT MADE MONEY IN TERMS OF THIS THING ABOUT ALREADY TALKING ABOUT CHINA. I HAVE NOT HAD THE ONLY GUY MADE MONEY FROM CHINA IS THIS GUY HE'S THE ONLY ONE NOBODY ELSE HAS MADE MONEY FROM CHINA. >> PRESIDENT DIDN'T DO MY QUESTION TO YOU JUST WANT ONE THING VERY CONCERNED. >> DIDN'T HAVE A JOB FOR A LONG TIME WAS SADLY NO LONGER IN THE MILITARY SERVICE I WON'T GET INTO THAT AND HE DIDN'T HAVE A AS SOON AS HE BECAME VICE PRESIDENT. THE AND THAT DID THIS LOOK BUT NOT THE BEST REPUTATION IN THE WORLD. I HEAR THEY PAID 183,000. A MONTH LISTEN TO THIS 183 AND THEY GAVE HIM A 3 MILLION DOLLARS UPFRONT PAY MY RIGHT AND HE HAD NO LINE OR JUST LET THE VICE PRESIDENT QUESTION TO YOU BASIS THAT EVERYBODY INVESTIGATED THAT NO ONE SAID IN A T DID WAS WRONG AND UKRAINE OK PRESIDENT TRUMP THIS IS FOR YOU SINCE YOU TOOK OFFICE. >> HE'S NEVER DIVESTED FROM YOUR BUSINESS YOU PERSONALLY PROMOTED YOUR PROPERTIES ABROAD. A REPORT THIS WEEK WHICH WAS REFERENCE DOES INDICATE THAT YOUR COMPANY HAS A BANK ACCOUNT IN CHINA. SO HOW CAN VOTERS KNOW THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY FOREIGN CONFLICTS OF INTEREST I HAVE MANY BANK ACCOUNTS AND THEY'RE ALL LISTED AND THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE I MEAN I WAS A BUSINESSMAN DOING BUSINESS. >> THE BANK AGAIN YOU'RE REFERRING TO WHICH IS EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT IT. IT'S LISTED. THE BANK ACCOUNT WAS IN. 2013. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS HE WAS OPEN TO DO IT WAS CLOSED IN 2015, I BELIEVE AND THEN I DECIDED BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO DO I WAS THINKING ABOUT DOING A DEAL IN CHINA LIKE MILLIONS OF OTHER PEOPLE. I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT AND I DECIDED I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT DIDN'T LIKE IT, I JUST SAID NOT TO DO IT HAD AN ACCOUNT OPEN AND I CLOSE IT OKAY EXCUSE ME AND THEN I LIKE HIM WHERE HIS VICE PRESIDENT AND HE DOES BUSINESS. I THEN DECIDED TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT AFTER THAT THAT WAS BEFORE SO I CLOSED IT BEFORE I EVEN RAN FOR PRESIDENT. LET ALONE BECAME PRESIDENT. BIG DIFFERENCE. HE IS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND HIS SON HIS BROTHER AND HIS OTHER BROTHER ARE GETTING RICH, THEY LIKE A VACUUM CLEANER THIS MICHIGAN WE DO NOT TOUCH OR NOT I DO WANT TO ASK YOU. >> VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN ABOUT CHINA, LET'S TALK ABOUT CHINA MORE BROADLY THERE HAVE OF COURSE PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS SAID THAT THEY SHOULD PAY FOR NOT BEING FULLY TRANSPARENT IN REGARDS TO THE CORONAVIRUS IF YOU WERE PRESIDENT WOULD YOU MAKE CHINA PAY AND PLEASE BE SPECIFIC WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE WHEN I MAKE CHINA DO IS PLAY BY THE INTERNATIONAL RULES. >> NOT LIKE HE'S DONE. HE HAS CAUSED THE DEFICIT CHINA TO GO UP NOT DOWN. WITH CHINA UP NOT DOWN. >> WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT IN ORDER TO DO BUSINESS IN CHINA, YOU HAVE TO GIVE ALL YOUR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY YOU HAVE TO GET OF HAVE A PARTNER IN CHINA IS 51%. WE WOULD NOT DO THAT AT ALL NUMBER ONE NUMBER 2 WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE CHINA WOULD HAVE TO PLAY BY THE RULES INTERNATIONALLY AS WELL WHEN I MET WE SHE THAT WHEN I WAS STILL VICE PRESIDENT HE SAID WERE SETTING UP THEIR DEDICATION ZONES IN THAT IN THE SOUTH CHINA SEA YOU CAN FLY THROUGH THEM. I SAID WE'RE GOING TO FLY THROUGH THAT WE JUST FLEW B 52 B ONE BOMBERS THROUGH IT WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY ATTENTION THEY HAVE TO PLAY BY THE RULES AND WHAT SHE DO HE EMBRACES GUYS LIKE THE THUGS LIKE IN NORTH KOREA AND AND THE CHINESE PRESIDENT AND PRUDENT AND OTHERS AND HE POKED HIS FINGER THEN I'M ALL OF OUR FRIENDS ALL OF OUR ALLIES WE MAKE UP ONLY WERE TO 25%. 25% OF THE WORLD'S ECONOMY. WE NEED TO BE HAVING THE REST OF OUR FRIENDS WITH US SAYING TO CHINA THESE ARE THE RULES YOU PLAY BY THE MORE YOU'RE GOING TO PAY THE PRICE FOR NOT PAID BY THEM ECONOMICALLY THAT'S THE WAY I WILL RUN IT AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID AND UPHOLD THE STEEL TARIFFS ON A RANGE OF OTHER THINGS WE WERE PRESIDENT VICE PRESIDENT ALL RIGHT LET'S TALK ABOUT NORTH KOREA ME KNOW I HAVE TO RESPOND TO THIS OK. >> VERY HAVE DOLLARS FROM CHINA TODD, IT'S GOOD 10 MINUTES IN OFFICE AND BEING IN THE AIR FORCE 2. >> NUMBER ONE NUMBER 2 THERE'S A VERY E-MAIL TALKING ABOUT HIS FAMILY WANTED TO MAKE 10 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. >> FOR INTRODUCTIONS PRESIDENT TRUMP ON CHINA POLICY KNOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHAT SPECIFICALLY ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO MAKE CHINA PEGGY CENTER, THERE'S A LITTLE TENSION IS BANGED PAYING BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS I JUST GAVE 20 HAITIAN SESSIONS I JUST GAVE 28 BILLION DOLLARS TO FARMERS TAXPAYERS MONEY DIDN'T KNOW YOU KNOW THE TAXPAYERS SCHOOL CHINA, CHINA BY NATURE 28 BILLION AND YOU KNOW THEY DID TO PAGE 2. THEY DEVALUE THEIR CURRENCY AND THEY ALSO PAID UP AND YOU KNOW GOT THE MONEY OR FARMERS ARE GREAT FARMERS BECAUSE THEY WERE TARGETED. YOU NEVER JUDGE THAT MANY THINK ALSO I CHARGE THEM 25% ON DUMPED STEEL BECAUSE THEY WERE KILLING OUR STEEL INDUSTRY WE'RE NOT GOING STEAL INDICATE AND NOW WE HAVE A STEEL CAGE VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN YOUR RESPONSE RESPONSES, LOT. >> THIS ISN'T ABOUT REALLY IS A REASON WHY HE'S PROBABLY UP ALL THIS MORE KEY. THERE'S A REASON FOR HE DIDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE THE SO THE SUBSTANTIVE ISSUES IT'S NOT ABOUT HIS FAMILY AND MY FAMILY. IT'S ABOUT YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR FAMILY IS HURTING BADLY. IF YOU'RE MAKING LESS THAN IF YOU'RE MIDDLE CLASS FAMILY YOU'RE GETTING HURT BADLY RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE SITTING AT THE KITCHEN TABLE THIS MORNING TO SIGN YOU BUT WE CAN'T GET NEW TIRES, THE BALL BECAUSE WE HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER MONTH OR SO ARE WE GOING TO ABLE TO PAY THE MORTGAGE OR WHO'S GOING TO TELL SHE CAN'T GO BACK TO TO COMMUNITY COLLEGE THERE THE DECISIONS YOU'RE MAKING IN THE MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES LIKE I GREW UP IN SCRANTON CLAIMANT THEY'RE IN TROUBLE. WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT YOUR FAMILIES BUT THAT'S THE LAST THING HE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT. >> I WANT TO SAY I WANT 10 SECONDS MISTER TECHNICAL POLITICAL STATEMENT, LET'S GET OFF THIS CHINA THING AND THAT HE LOOKS TO FAMILY AROUND THE TABLE EVERYTHING JUST TYPICAL POLITICIAN WHEN I SEE THAT'S TALK OKAY THAT'S WHAT GOT ELECTED THAT LET'S TALK LET'S GET OFF THE SUBJECT OF CHINA, LET'S LOOK AROUND SITTING AROUND THE TABLE COME ON JOE YOU DO, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT NORTH KOREA NOW PRESIDENT TRUMP YOU'VE MET WITH NORTH KOREAN LEADER KIM JONG-UN 3 TIMES. >> YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT YOUR BEAUTIFUL LETTERS WITH HIM HE'S TOUTED THE FACT THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN A WAR OR LONG-RANGE MISSILE TEST AND YET NORTH KOREA RECENTLY ROLLED OUT ITS BIGGEST EVER INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC MISSILE AND CONTINUES TO DEVELOP ITS NUCLEAR ARSENAL, DO YOU SEE THAT AS A BETRAYAL OF THE RELATIONSHIP NO HORSE JUST 30 SECONDS HERE BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET ON TO THE WHEN I MET WITH BARACK OBAMA WHO SAID IN THE WAY IS STRAIGHT AT THE BEGINNING HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION IS SUPPOSED TO BE 15 MINUTES AND IT WAS WELL OVER AN HOUR. HE SAID THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WE HAVE WITH NORTH IS NORTH KOREA. >> HE INDICATED WE WILL BE IN A WAR WITH NORTH KOREA. GUESS WHAT IT WOULD BE A NUCLEAR WAR ANY DOES HAVE PLENTY OF NUCLEAR CAPABILITY. IN THE MEANTIME I HAVE A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM DIFFERENT KIND OF A GUY BUT HE PROBABLY THINKS THE SAME THING ABOUT ME. WE HAVE A DIFFERENT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP. WE HAVE A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP. AND THERE'S NO WAR AND YOU KNOW ABOUT 2 MONTHS AGO, HE BROKE INTO A CERTAIN AREA THEY SAID OH THERE'S GOING TO BE TROUBLE IS THAT NO THEY'RE NOT BECAUSE HE'S NOT GOING TO DO THAT AND I WAS RIGHT LOOK AND SAID OF BEING IN A WAR WHERE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE SO YOU KNOW IS 25 MILES AWAY. MILLIONS AND MILLIONS 32 MILLION PEOPLE IN SEOUL. >> MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WOULD BE OK RIGHT NATIONS IF ICE PRESIDENT BIDEN TO YOU NORTH KOREA CONDUCTED 4 NUCLEAR TESTS UNDER THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WHY DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO REIN IN THIS PERSISTENT THREAT BECAUSE I MAKE IT CLEAR WHICH WERE MAKING CLEAR TO CHINA THEY HAD TO BE PART OF THE DEAL BECAUSE HERE'S THE ROUTE. >> I MADE IT CLEAR AS A SPOKESPERSON MINISTRATION I WENT TO CHINA. SAID WHY ARE YOU MOVING YOUR MISSILE SO CLOSE WERE YOU MOVING MORE FORCES HERE WHY YOU CONTINUE TO DO. MILITARY MANEUVERS WITH SOUTH KOREA. I SAID BECAUSE NORTH KOREA IS A PROBLEM AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO IT SO WE CAN CONTROL AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE CAN CONTROL THEM AND MAKE SURE THEY CAN NOT HEARD US AND SO IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT STEP UP AND HELP IS NOT IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE WHAT HAS HE DONE HE'S LEGITIMIZE NORTH KOREA. HE'S TALKED ABOUT HIS GOOD BUDDY WHO'S A T*** A T*** AND HE TALKS ABOUT HOW ARE BETTER OFF AND THEY ARE HAVE MUCH MORE CAPABLE MISSILES ABLE TO REACH US TERRITORY MUCH MORE EASILY THAN EVER DID BEFORE LET ME FOLLOW UP WITH YOU VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN HAVE SAID YOU WOULDN'T MEET WITH KIM JONG-UN WITHOUT PRECONDITIONS ARE THERE ANY CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH YOU WOULD MEET WITH HIM ON THE CONDITION THAT HE WOULD AGREE THAT HE WOULD BE BEEN DRAWING DOWN IT IS. >> NUCLEAR CAPACITY TO GET THAT THE KOREAN PENINSULA BE NUCLEAR FREE ZONE. >> ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO AMERICAN CITIZENS SECONDS FOR THEY TRIED TO MEET WITH HIM HE WOULDN'T DO IT. HE DIDN'T LIKE. OBAMA HE DIDN'T LIKE HIM HE WOULDN'T DO DRIES VAN TO THAT HE WOULD DO AND YOU KNOW IT'S OK YOU KNOW WHAT NORTH KOREA WOULD NOT KNOW OR WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP, YOU KNOW PEOPLE IT DOESN'T HAVE GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LEADERS HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS TO AND WE HAD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH HITLER BEFORE HE IN FACT INVADE EUROPE, REST OF EUROPE THIS IS THE REASON WHY HE WOULD NOT MEET WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA IS BECAUSE PRESIDENT OBAMA SAID WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DENUCLEARIZATION WE'RE NOT GOING TO LEGITIMIZE YOU WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PUSH STRONGER AND STRONGER SANCTIONS ON YOU. >> THAT'S WHY HE WOULD MEET WITH US. >> ALL LECTURES ON AND TALK ASK PRESIDENT TRUMP OK WITH LAUGH AND BE A MESS. NORTH KOREA WAS A MESS WHEN IN FACT IF I MY QUESTION IS TONIGHT THERE WAS A VERY DANGEROUS PERIOD OF MY FIRST 3 MONTHS BEFORE WE SORT OF WORK THINGS OUT A LITTLE BIT OF CAKE. THERE WAS A VERY GOOD THEY LEFT US A MESS AND OBAMA WOULD BE I THINK THE FIRST SAYS SAFETY WAS THE SINGLE BIGGEST PROBLEM HE THOUGHT THAT OUR COUNTRY OK LET'S MOVE ON TO AMERICAN FAMILIES AND THE ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO THEM IS HEALTH CARE AS YOU BOTH KNOW. >> TODAY THERE WAS A KEY VOTE ON A NEW SUPREME COURT JUSTICE AMY CONEY BARRETT AND HEALTH CARE IS AT THE CENTER OF HER CONFIRMATION FIGHT OVER 20 MILLION AMERICANS GET THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE THROUGH THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT IT'S HEADED TO THE SUPREME COURT AND YOUR ADMINISTRATION MISTER PRESIDENT IS ADVOCATING FOR THE COURT TO OVERTURN IT. IF THE SUPREME COURT DOES OVERTURN THAT LAW THERE'S 20 MILLION AMERICANS COULD LOSE THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE ALMOST OVERNIGHT SO WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF THOSE PEOPLE HAVE THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE TAKEN AWAY YOU HAVE 2 MINUTES ON INSURGENT FORCE ABOVE ALREADY DONE SOMETHING THAT NOBODY IT'S POSSIBLE. >> THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE I TERMINATED THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE THAT IS THE WORST PART OF OBAMACARE AS WE CALL IT. THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE WE HAVE TO PAY A FORTUNE FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF NOT HAVING TO PAY FOR BAD HEALTH INSURANCE. I TERMINATED ITS GUN. NOW IT'S IN COURT BECAUSE OBAMACARE IS NO GOOD BUT THEN I MADE A DECISION RUN IT AS WELL AS YOU CAN TO MAKE PEOPLE GREAT PEOPLE RUN IT AS WELL AS YOU CAN I COULD GO THE OTHER ROUTE AND MADE EVERYBODY VERY UNHAPPY. THEY RAN PREMIUMS ARE DOWN EVERYTHING'S DONE. HERE'S THE PROBLEM. NO MATTER HOW WELL YOU RUN IT IT'S NO GOOD. WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS TERMINATED WE HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE DONE. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO WORK IF WE DON'T WIN IT. WE WILL HAVE TO RUN IT AND WE'LL HAVE OBAMACARE BUT IT WILL BE BETTER RUN, BUT IT NO LONGER IS OBAMACARE BECAUSE WITHOUT THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE. IT'S MUCH DIFFERENT PREEXISTING CONDITIONS WILL ALWAYS STAY WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS A MUCH BETTER HEALTH CARE MUCH BETTER. WHAT ALWAYS PROTECT PEOPLE WITH PREEXISTING SO I'D LIKE TO TERMINATE OBAMACARE COME UP WITH A BRAND NEW BEAUTIFUL HEALTHCARE, THE DEMOCRATS WILL DO IT BECAUSE OF THE TREMENDOUS PRESSURE ON THEM AND WE MIGHT EVEN HAVE THE HOUSE BY THAT TIME AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO WIN THE HOUSE OK YOU'LL SEE BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING WITH THE HOUSE BUT COME UP WITH A BETTER HEALTH CARE ALWAYS PROTECTING PEOPLE WITH PREEXISTING CONDITIONS AND ONE THING VERY IMPORTANT. WE HAVE A 180 MILLION PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT HAVE GREAT PRIVATE HEALTH CARE FAR MORE THAN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH OBAMACARE JOE BIDEN IS GOING TO TERMINATE ALL OF THOSE POLICIES. THESE PEOPLE THAT LOVE THEIR HEALTH CARE. PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL MIDDLE INCOME PEOPLE BEEN SUCCESSFUL. >> THEY HAVE A 180 MILLION PLANTS, A 180 MILLION PEOPLE FAMILIES. UNDER WHAT HE WANTS TO DO WHICH WILL BASICALLY BE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE HE WON'T EVEN HAVE A CHOICE. THEY WANT TO TERMINATE A 180 MILLION PLANS WE HAVE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB HEALTH CARE. >> AND WE'RE GOING TO DO EVEN BETTER IT BIDEN YES, THIS IS FOR YOU YOUR HEALTH CARE PLAN CALLS FOR BUILDING ON OBAMACARE SO MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS YOUR PLAN. IF THE LAWS RULED UNCONSTITUTIONAL BY THE SUPREME COURT YOU HAVE 2 MINUTES UNINTERRUPTED. >> WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS PASS OBAMACARE WITH A PUBLIC OPTION. BECOME BIDEN CARE PUBLIC OPTION IS AN OPTION THAT SAYS THAT IF YOU IN FACT DO NOT HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO BE IF YOU QUALIFY FOR MEDICAID, AND YOU DO NOT HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL. THE NEW YEAR STATE TO GET MEDICAID YOU AUTOMATICALLY ROLLED PROVIDING COMPETITION FOR INSURANCE COMPANIES. THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN SECONDLY WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE REDUCE THE PREMIUMS AND REDUCE DRUG PRICES BY MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S COMPETITION THAT DOESN'T EXIST NOW BY ALLOWING THE MEDICARE TO NEGOTIATE. DRUG PRICES WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANIES THIRDLY THE IDEA THAT I WANT TO ELIMINATE PRIVATE INSURERS TO REASON WHY I HAD SUCH A FIGHT 4 WITH 20 CANDIDATES FOR THE NOMINATION WAS I SUPPORT PRIVATE INSURANCE THAT'S WHY I DID NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON PRIVATE INSURERS WOULD LOSE THEIR INSURANCE UNDER MY PLAN NOR DID DAY UNDER OBAMACARE THEY DID NOT LOSE THEIR INSURANCE UNLESS THEY CHOSE THEY WANTED TO GO TO SOMETHING ELSE LASTLY WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN A SITUATION THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY PROTECT RE-ISSUE THERE'S NO WAY HE CAN PROTECT PREEXISTING CONDITIONS NOT A NEW 0 YOU CAN'T DO IT IN THE ETHER HE'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME. THERE IS NO HE'S NEVER COME UP WITH A PLAN I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO GET THE PREEXISTING CONDITION PLAN THE SAME TIME WE GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN THAT WE WAIT IF SHE IS 1718 1920. THE FACT I STRUGGLE FOR FEW MORE MINUTES AND ARE GETTING ANXIOUS. THE. THE FACT IS THAT THE HE'S ALREADY COST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THIS TERRIBLE HANLEY THE COVID VIRUS AN ECONOMIC SPILLOVER. 10 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR PRIVATE INSURANCE AND HE WANTS TO TAKE AWAY 22 MILLION MORE PEOPLE HAVEN'T OBAMA CARE AND OVER A 110 MILLION PEOPLE WITH PREEXISTING CONDITIONS AND ALL THE PEOPLE FROM COVID ARE GOING TO HAVE PREEXISTING CONDITIONS WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO I HAVE A FOLLOW-UP FOR YOU VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN IT RELATES TO SOMETHING THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID HE'S ACCUSING YOU OF WANTING SOCIALIZED MEDICINE WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE. >> WHO HAVE CONCERNS THAT YOUR HEALTH CARE PLAN WHICH INCLUDES A GOVERNMENT INSURANCE OPTION TAKES THE COUNTRY ONE STEP CLOSER TO HEALTH CARE SYSTEM RUN ENTIRELY BY THE GOVERNMENT SAYING IT'S RIDICULOUS LIKE SAYING THAT YOU KNOW. >> THE IDEA THAT FACT THAT THERE'S A PUBLIC OPTION OF PEOPLE CAN CHOOSE THAT MAKES THE SOCIALS PLAN LOOK THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT I THINK HEALTH CARE IS NOT PRIVILEGE, IT'S A RIGHT. EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE AND I'M VERY PROUD OF MY PLAN IS COTTON INDOOR SPY. ALL THE MAJOR LABOR UNIONS AS WELL AS AS WELL AS A WHOLE RANGE OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO IN FACT ARE CONCERNED IN THE MEDICAL FIELD. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO SAVE PEOPLE'S LIVES. AND THIS IS GOING TO GIVE SOME PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE HEALTH CARE FOR THEIR CHILDREN FROM A VIEW HOME ARE WORRIED AND ROLLING AROUND IN BED TONIGHT, WONDERING WHAT IN GOD'S NAME YOU DO IF YOU GET SICK BECAUSE YOU LOST YOUR HOME I'M SURE YOUR YOUR YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE OR COMPANIES COMING ON. WE HAVE TO PROVIDE HEALTH INSURANCE FOR PEOPLE AND AFFORDABLE RATE THAT'S WHAT I DO. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP TODAY. HE WAS NEARLY MONTH FOR 47 YEARS HE DIDN'T DO HE WAS NOW THERE IS VICE PRESIDENT FOR 8 YEARS AND IT'S NOT LIKE IT WAS 25 YEARS AGO IT WAS 3 IN 3 QUARTERS. IT WAS JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO RIGHT LESS THAN 4 YEARS AGO. HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING HE DIDN'T DO IT HE WON SOCIALIZE MEDICINE IS NOT THAT HE WANTED HIS VICE PRESIDENT, I MEAN SHE IS IS MORE LIBERAL THAN BERNIE SANDERS AND ONCE IT EVEN MORE 30 SANDERS WANTS IT. THE DEMOCRATS ONE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE JUST LIKE YOU WANT TO WITH FRACKING WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE FRACKING WHETHER SUBTRACTED WE'RE GOING TO FRACKING THEN HE GOES TO PENNSYLVANIA AFTER HE GETS THE NOMINATION, WE GOT VERY LUCKY TO GET IT AND HE GOES TO PENNSYLVANIA. AND IT WE'RE GOING TO FRACKING. AND YOU NEVER IS THE QUESTION AND BY THE WAY SO FAR I RESPECT VERY MUCH THE WAY YOU HANDLE THIS. I HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT SOMEBODY SHOULD ASK THE QUESTION YOU CAN AND HE DOES FOR A YEAR IT WILL NUMBER OF WE HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTION WE'RE GOING TO GET SAME THING WITH SOCIALIZE I HAVE RESIGN PRESIDENT YOUR RESPONSE TO LEVI RESPONSES PEOPLE DESERVE TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE PERIOD. >> PERIOD PERIOD PERIOD. AND THE BIDEN CARE PROPOSAL WOLF ACT TO PROVIDE FOR THAT AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE LOWER PREMIUMS, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS GOING TO COST SOME MONEY. IT'S GOING TO COST OVER 750 BILLION DOLLARS OVER 10 YEARS TO DO IT AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE LOWER PREMIUMS, YOU COMBINE THE BETTER PLANS THE CHIEF OR PLANS TO LOWER YOUR PREMIUMS DEAL WITH AND GONE ON AND ON EXPECTED THE BUILDING AND HAVE YOUR DRUG PRICES DROP SIGNIFICANTLY. HE KEEPS TALKING ABOUT IT. HE HASN'T DONE A THING FOR ANYBODY ON HEALTH CARE NOT OFFICIALLY ONE I WANT TO TALK TALKING ABOUT SOCIALIZED MEDICINE AND WHEN HE AND AND HEALTH CARE WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT THE PUBLIC OPTION. HE'S TALKING ABOUT DESTROYING YOUR MEDICARE. TOTAL DISTRICT AND DESTROYING OF SOCIAL SECURITY AND THIS WHOLE COUNTRY WILL COME DOWN, YOU KNOW BERNIE SANDERS TRY TO RESTATE HE TRADED IN HIS STATE HIS GOVERNOR WAS A VERY LIBERAL GOVERNOR THEY WANT TO MAKE IT WORK OKAY, HE'S GOT HE THINKS HE'S RUNNING IN SOMEBODY ELSE IS RUNNING AGAINST JOE BIDEN. >> I BEAT ALL THOSE OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE I DISAGREED WITH AND JOE BIDEN IS READY TO GET AND THE IDEA THAT WE'RE IN A SITUATION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DESTROY MEDICARE THIS IS THE GUY THAT THE ACTUARY MEDICARE SAID. >> IF IN FACT I WAS AT SOCIAL SECURITY. IF IN FACT HE CONTINUES TO WITHHOLD HIS PLAN TO WITHHOLD THE TAX ON SOCIAL SECURITY. SO SECURITY WILL BE BANKRUPT IN BY 2023 WITH NO WAY TO MAKE UP FOR IT. THIS IS A GUY WHO'S TRIED TO CUT MEDICARE. SO AND I DON'T I MEAN THE IDEA THAT DONALD TRUMP. HIS LECTURE ME ON SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE >> HE TRIED TO YEARS AGO THE YEARS AGO TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE RECORDS HE TRIED TO HURT SOCIAL SECURITY YEARS ON TO THE NEXT ABOUT IF I'M ELECTED. IF HE'S ELECTED THE STOCK MARKET WILL CRASH OK VERY QUICKLY TO WORK. >> THE IDEA THAT THE STOCK MARKET IS BOOMING, THIS IS ONLY MEASURE WHAT'S HAPPENING WHERE I COME FROM A SCRANTON CLIMB ON THE PEOPLE DON'T LIVE OFF OF THE STOCK MARKET JUST TO JUST IN THE LAST 3, 3, YEARS DURING THIS CRISIS. SAID THAT THE BILLIONAIRES IN THIS COUNTRY MADE ACCORDING TO IT. THE WALL STREET'S 700 BILLION MORE DOLLARS 700 BILLION MORE DOLLARS BECAUSE THAT'S HIS ONLY MEASURED WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ORDINARY PEOPLE OUT THERE. >> WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM HAZE OF THROUGH THE ROOF THROUGH THE ROOF OR HE DOESN'T COME FROM SCRANTON THAT'S LIKE ONE OF KEY LIVED THERE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE I'M GOING MOVE ON HEADS MY NEXT QUESTION TO HONEST AS OF TONIGHT MORE THAN 12 MILLION PEOPLE ARE OUT OF WORK. >> AND AS OF TONIGHT 8 MILLION MORE AMERICANS HAVE FALLEN INTO POVERTY AND MORE FAMILIES ARE GOING HUNGRY EVERY DAY THOSE HIT HARDEST ARE WOMEN AND PEOPLE OF COLOR. THEY SEE WASHINGTON FIGHTING OVER A RELIEF BILL. MISTER PRESIDENT WHY HAVEN'T YOU BEEN ABLE TO GET THEM THE HELP THEY NEED 30 SECONDS HERE BECAUSE NANCY PELOSI DOESN'T WANT TO APPROVE IT I DO YOU'RE THE PRESIDENT I DO, BUT I STILL HAVE TO GET UNFORTUNATE THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OVER THE HOUSE BECAUSE OF HER. >> NANCY PELOSI DOESN'T WANT TO APPROVE ANYTHING BECAUSE SHE LOVED TO HAVE SOME VICTORIES. ON A DATE CALLED NOVEMBER, 3RD NANCY PELOSI DOES NOT GOING TO APPROVE IT WE ARE READY WILLING AND ABLE TO DO SOMETHING DON'T FORGET WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED 3 PLANS AND IT'S GONE THROUGH INCLUDING THE DEMOCRATS IN ALL FAIRNESS. THIS ONE SHE DOESN'T WANT US NEAR THE ELECTION BECAUSE SHE THINKS IT HELPS OR POLITICALLY I THINK IT HURTS ARE REPUBLICAN LEADER IN IN THE IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE SAID HE CAN'T PASS IT. >> HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PASS IT. HE DOES NOT HAVE REPUBLICAN VOTES. WINDY TALKING TO HIS REPUBLICAN FRIENDS. LET ME FOLLOW UP WITH YOU VICE PRESIDENT LET ME ADVISE PRESIDENT BY THE QUESTION YOU ARE THE LEADER OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. >> WHY HAVE YOU NOT PUSH THE DEMOCRATS TO GET A DEAL FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE I HAVE AND THEY HAVE 4 SHOULD LOOK THEY PASSED THIS ACT ALL THE WAY BACK AND BEGAN THE SUMMER. >> THIS IS LIKE IT'S NOT NEW IT'S BEEN OUT THERE. THIS HERO'S ACT HAS BEEN SITTING THERE AND LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING. WHAT I HAD WAS IN CHARGE OF THE RECOVERY ACT WAS A 100 BILLION DOLLARS. I WAS ABLE TO GET TO A 145 BILLION DOLLARS TO LOCAL COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE TO BALANCE THEIR BUDGETS AS STATES HAVE TO BALANCE A BUDGET SAID THEN HAVE TO FIRE FIRE TO HAVE TO FIRE FIREFIGHTERS, TEACHERS FIRST RESPONDERS LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS SO THEY CAN KEEP THEIR CITIES AND COUNTIES RUNNING HE WILL NOT SUPPORT THAT THEY HAVE NOT DONE NOTHING FOR THEM AND MITCH MCCONNELL SAID LET THEM GO BANKRUPT. >> LET THEM GO BANKRUPT. COME HOME. WHAT'S THE THAT WAS PASSED IN THE HOUSE WAS A BAILOUT OF BADLY RUN HIGH CRIME. DEMOCRAT ALL RUN BY DEMOCRATS CITIES AND STATES IT WAS A WAY OF GETTING A LOT OF MONEY BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO THIS CASE IT WAS ALSO WAY OF GETTING A LOT OF NEY. >> FROM OUR PEOPLE'S POCKETS TO PEOPLE THAT COME INTO OUR COUNTRY ILLEGALLY. WE WERE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING FOR THEM AND WHAT THAT DOES AND I'D LOVE TO DO THAT I'D LOVE TO HELP THEM, BUT WHAT THAT DOES EVERYBODY ALL OVER THE WORLD WILL START POURING INTO OUR COUNTRY WE CAN'T DO IT. THIS WAS A WAY OF TAKING CARE OF THEM. THIS WAS A WAY OF SPENDING ON THINGS THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH COVID HAS TO YOUR QUESTION. BUT IT WAS REALLY A BIG BAILOUT FOR BADLY RUN DEMOCRATS CITIES AND STATES ARE GONNA I GET ELECTED, I'M NOT GOING. I'M RUNNING AS A PROUD DEMOCRAT TRYING TO BE AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT I DON'T SEE RED STATES AND BLUE STATES. >> WHAT I SEE AS AMERICAN UNITED STATES AND FOLKS EVERY SINGLE STATE OUT THERE FINDS HIMSELF IN TROUBLE THEY'RE GOING TO START LAYING OFF FOR THE RED OR BLUE COPS FIREFIGHTERS FIRST RESPONDERS BECAUSE TEACHERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BALANCE THEIR BUDGET AND THE FOUNDERS WERE SMART THEY ALLOWED THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO DEFICIT SPEND TO COMPENSATE FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE MINIMUM WAGE GENTLEMAN MISTER VICE PRESIDENT WE ARE TALKING A LOT ABOUT STRUGGLING SMALL BUSINESSES ASH AND BUSINESS OWNERS THESE DAYS. >> DO YOU THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO ASK THEM TO RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE OF COURSE SUPPORT A $15 FEDERAL MINIMUM I DO BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BAIL THEM OUT TOO. >> WE SHOULD BE BAILING THEM OUT NOW THOSE SMALL BUSINESSES THE I WANT TO 6 THEM GOING UNDER THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ABLE TO MAKE IT BACK. THEY PASSED THE PRI PACKAGES ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE TO CALL PPP MONEY SUPPOSED TO GO TO HELP THEM DO EVERYTHING FROM ORGANIZE HOW THEY CAN DEAL WITH YOUR BUSINESS HAS BEEN OPEN SAFELY. SCHOOL'S HOW THEY CAN MAKE CLASSROOM SMALLER HOW THEY CAN HIRE MORE TEACHERS HOW THEY CAN PUT VENTILATION SYSTEMS IN THEY NEED THE HELP. THE BUSINESSES AS WELL AS THE SCHOOLS NEED THE HELP BUT THIS GUYS WILL NOT HELP THEM. >> IS NOT GIVING THEM ANY OF THE MONEY WE ARE GOING TO MOVE THAT SCHOOL BUSINESSES BY RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE, IT'S UNHEALTHY BY I THINK IT SHOULD BE A STATE OPTION. ALABAMA IS DIFFERENT IN NEW YORK, NEW YORK IS DIFFERENT FROM VERMONT, EVERY STATE IS DIFFERENT IT SHOULD BE A STATE HALF YOU SOME IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. WE HAVE TO HELP OUR SMALL BUSINESS YOU HOW ARE YOU HELPING YOU SMALL BUSINESSES WHEN YOU'RE FORCING WAGES, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND WHAT'S BEEN PROVEN TO HAPPEN IS WHEN YOU DO THAT THESE SMALL BUSINESSES FIRE MANY OF THEIR ARE RAISING THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE TO $15 AN HOUR. YOU SAID RECENTLY HE WOULD CONSIDER RAISING THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE TIES TO WHITE NOW A LOT IS STILL THE KING AND I WOULD CONSIDER IT TO AN EXTENT, BUT REALLY LIKE RATIONING WHAT I READ IN A SECOND ADMINISTRATION, BUT NOT TO A LEVEL THAT'S GOING TO PUT ALL THESE BUSINESSES OUT OF BUSINESS. IT SHOULD BE A STATE OPTION LOOK EVERY IN DIFFERENT PLACES I KNOW DIFFERENT PLACES THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT. SOME PLACES $15 IS NOT SO BAD. IN OTHER PLACES OTHER STATES VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN 2 JOBS, ONE JOB. THE BELOW POVERTY. >> PEOPLE ARE MAKING 6, 7, 8, BUCKS AN HOUR THESE FIRST RESPONDERS WE ALL CLAPPED FOR AS THEY COME DOWN THE STREET BECAUSE THEY'VE ALLOWED US TO MAKE IT WHAT'S HAPPENING. THEY DESERVE A MINIMUM WAGE OF $15 ANYTHING BELOW THAT PUT YOU BELOW THE POVERTY LEVEL AND THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT WHEN YOU RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE BUSINESSES GO OUT OF BUSINESS THAT IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IMMIGRATION WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IMMIGRATION. NOW GENTLEMAN. >> AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT FAMILIES WITHIN THIS CONTEXT. MISTER PRESIDENT YOUR ADMINISTRATION SEPARATED CHILDREN FROM THEIR PARENTS AT THE BORDER, AT LEAST 4,000 KIDS YOU'VE SINCE REVERSED OR 0 TOLERANCE POLICY BUT THE UNITED STATES CAN'T LOCATE THE PARENTS OF MORE THAN 500 CHILDREN SO HOW THESE FAMILIES EVER BE REUNITED. >> CHILDREN ARE BROUGHT HERE. BY COYOTE EASE AND A LOTS OF BAD PEOPLE CARTELS AND THEY BROUGHT HERE AND THEY USED TO USE THEM TO GET INTO A COUNTRY WE NOW HAVE AS STRONG A BORDERS WE'VE EVER HAD WE'RE OVER 400 MILES A BRAND NEW WALL YOU SEE THE NUMBERS AND WE LET PEOPLE IN BUT THEY HAVE TO COME IN LEGALLY AND THEY COME INTO MY ONLY REASON THAT WE USE TODAY WITH THEIR FAMILY TO SAY THIS TO PAY BILLS CAGES YOU KNOW THEY USED TO SAY I BUILD THE CAGES AND THEN THEY HAD A PICTURE IN A CERTAIN NEWSPAPER. IT WAS A PICTURE OF THESE HORRIBLE CAGES AND THEY SAID LOOK AT THESE CAGES PRESIDENT TRUMP BUILT THEM AND THEN IT WAS DETERMINED THEY WERE BUILT IN 2014 THAT WAS HIM DO UNITED KIDS, YES, WE'RE JERRY WHAT WE'RE TRYING VERY HARD BUT A LOT OF THESE KIDS COME OUT WITHOUT THE PARENTS THEY COME OVER THROUGH CARTELS AND THROUGH COYOTES AND THROUGH GANGS, VICE PRESIDENT BY LET ME BRING YOU INTO THIS CONVERSATION, QUICK RESPONSE AND ANOTHER QUESTION TO YOU 500 PLUS KIDS. >> CAME WITH PARENTS. THEY SEPARATED AT THE BORDER TO MAKE IT A DISINCENTIVE TO COME TO BEGIN WITH. >> BAY REAL TOUGH WERE REALLY STRONG AND GUESS WHAT THEY CANNOT IS NOT COYOTES DIDN'T BRING THEM OVER THEIR PARENTS WERE WITH THEM, THEY GOT SEPARATED FROM THEIR PARENTS. AND IT MAKES US A LAUGHING STOCK AND VIOLATES EVERY NOTION OF WHO WE ARE AS A NATION. >> LET ME ASK YOU FIRST AND I SAY DID WE CHANGE THE POLICY IT NOT A CENT TO RAGE IS DATED TO BUILD THE CAGE US LET'S TALK CAGES TALK ABOUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED. >> PARENTS WORST REP THEIR KIDS WERE RIPPED FROM THEIR ARMS AND SEPARATED. AND NOW THEY CANNOT FIND OVER 500 OF SETS OF THOSE PARENTS AND THOSE KIDS ARE ALONG NOWHERE TO GO NOWHERE TO GO. IT'S CRIMINAL. >> IT'S CRIMINAL LET ME BORDERS EVERYTHING. >> THEY ARE SO WELL TAKEN CARE OF THEIR IN FACILITIES THAT WAS SO CLEAN JUST ASK ONE QUESTION. >> WHO BUILT THE CAGES I'D LOVE YOU TO TASK OF THAT WHO BUILT THE CAGE LET ME ASK ABOUT YOUR IMMIGRATION POLICY MISTER VICE PRESIDENT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION DID FAIL TO DELIVER IMMIGRATION REFORM WHICH HAD BEEN A KEY PROMISE. >> DURING THE ADMINISTRATION AND ALSO PRESIDED OVER RECORD DEPORTATIONS AS WELL AS FAMILY DETENTIONS AT THE BORDER BEFORE CHANGING COURSE SO WHY SHOULD VOTERS TRUST YOU WITH AN IMMIGRATION OVERHAUL NOW. >> BECAUSE YOU MADE A MISTAKE MADE TO IT TOOK TOO LONG TO GET IT RIGHT TOOK TOO LONG TO GET IT RIGHT, I'LL BE PRESIDENT NOTED STATES NOT VICE PRESIDENT NOTED STATES. AND THE FACT IS I'VE MADE IT VERY CLEAR WITHIN A 100 DAYS, I'M GOING TO SEND TO UNITED STATES CONGRESS, A PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP FOR OVER 11 MILLION UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE AND ALL OF THOSE SO-CALLED DREAMERS THOSE DOCKET KIDS THEY'RE GOING TO BE IMMEDIATELY CERTIFIED AGAIN TO BE ABLE TO STAY IN THIS COUNTRY AND PUT ON A PATH TO CITIZENSHIP. THE IDEA THAT THEY ARE BEING SENT HOME BY THIS GUY AND THEY WANT TO DO THAT IS TO GO TO A COUNTRY THEY'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE. I CAN'T IMAGINE YOU'RE 5 YEARS OLD YOUR PARENTS ARE TAKING A CROSS. >> THE MURDERER, THE RIO GRANDE RIVER RIVER IN HIS ANSWERS. AND IT'S ILLEGAL. IT'S A LITTLE MOTLEY ME HERE I'M NOT GOING TO GO WITH IT. THEY'VE HERE MANY MODEL SAYS OVER 20,000 MORE FIRST RESPONDERS OUT THERE TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE DURING THIS CRISIS. WE OWE THEM. WE OWE THEM. >> PRESIDENTIAL 8 YEARS TO DO WHAT HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO. AND I'VE CHANGED WITHOUT HAVING A SPECIFIC. WE GOT RID OF CATCH AND RELEASE WE GOT RID OF A LOT OF HORRIBLE THINGS THAT THEY PUT IN AND THAT THEY LIVED WITH BUT HE HAD 8 YEARS HE WAS VICE PRESIDENT. HE DID NOTHING EXCEPT BUILD CAGES TO KEEP CHILDREN IN. >> VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN RESPONSE, THE CATCH AND RELEASE KNOW HE'S TALKING ABOUT THERE. IF IN FACT YOU HAD A FAMILY CAME ACROSS AND THEY WERE ARRESTED. THEY IN FACT WERE GIVEN TODAY TO SHOW UP FOR THEIR HEARINGS. THEY WERE RELEASED AND GUESS WHAT THEY SHOWED UP FOR HEARING. THIS THE FIRST PRESIDENT HAS TO UNITED STATES AMERICA THIS ANYBODY SEEKING ASYLUM HAS TO DO IT IS ANOTHER COUNTRY THAT'S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE IN AMERICA. THAT'S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE IN AMERICA YOU COME TO UNITED STATES, YOU MAKE YOUR CASE THAT GUY WHO SEEK ASYLUM BASED ON THE FOLLOWING ON THE FOLLOWING PREMISE. WHY I DESERVE AND AN AMERICAN LAW. THERE SHOULD BE THIS SQUALOR AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RIVER. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP SECONDS AND THEN WE JUST SHOWS THAT HE HAS NO UNDERSTANDING OF IMMIGRATION OF THE LAWS. CATCH AND RELEASE IS A DISASTER. A MURDER WOULD COMMAND A RAPIST WOULD COME IN A VERY BAD PERSON WOULD COME IN. WE WOULD TAKE THE NAME WE HAVE TO RELEASE THEM INTO OUR COUNTRY AND THEN YOU SAY THEY COME BACK LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE COME BACK WE HAVE TO SEND A TRY-OUT AND BORDER PATROL OUT TO FIND THEM WE WOULD SAY COME BACK IN 2 YEARS 3 YEARS WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A COURT CASE SHOULD BE PERRY MASON WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A COURT CASE. WHEN YOU SAY THEY COME BACK THEY DON'T COME BACK JOE DO THEY NEVER COME BACK ONLY THE REALLY I SHOULD HATE TO SAY THIS. BUT THOSE WITH THE LOWEST THANK YOU THEY MIGHT COME VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN A CHANCE TO RESPOND AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO JIM VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN YOUR RESPONSE KNOW ALWAYS TELL YOU SIMPLY NOT TRUE. >> FORTUNATELY THEY DON'T COME BACK CHECK IT OUT. ALL RIGHT TERMINATED THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO WORRY TO THE NEXT 525 KIDS NOT KNOW WE'RE IN GOD'S NAME THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOST OR PAIR, GOOD ALL RIGHT. LET'S TALK ABOUT OUR NEXT SECTION WHICH IS RACE IN AMERICA. >> AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE WAY BLACK AND BROWN AMERICANS EXPERIENCE RACE IN THIS COUNTRY. PART OF THAT EXPERIENCE IS SOMETHING CALLED THE TALK. IT HAPPENS REGARDLESS OF CLASS AND INCOME PARENTS WHO FEEL THEY HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO PREPARE THEIR CHILDREN FOR THE CHANCE THAT THEY COULD BE TARGETED INCLUDING BY THE POLICE FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN. MISTER VICE PRESIDENT IN THE NEXT 2 MINUTES. I WANT YOU TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THESE FAMILIES DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY THESE PARENTS FEAR FOR THEIR CHILDREN DO. >> I DO. YOU KNOW MY ♪ DAUGHTER IS A SOCIAL WORKER SHE'S WRITTEN A LOT ABOUT THIS SHE'S IN GOOD HANDS OR GRADUATE DEGREES FROM THE UNIVERSITY PENNSYLVANIA'S SO SURE. AND YOU ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I ENDED UP WORKING ON THE EAST SIDE OF WILMINGTON DELAWARE, WHICH IS 90% AFRICAN AMERICAN WAS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON WHAT I DIDN'T I NEVER HAD TO TELL MY DAUGHTER. IF SHE'S PULLED OVER MAKE SURE SHE PUTS FOR US TRAFFIC STOP PUT BOTH HANDS ON TOP OF THE WHEEL. AND DON'T REACH FOR THE CLUB BOX BECAUSE SOMEONE MAY SHOOT YOU. BUT A BLACK PARENT, NO MATTER HOW WEALTHY OR HOW POOR THEY ARE HAS TO TEACH THEIR CHILD WHEN YOU'RE WALKING DOWN THE STREET DON'T HAVE A HOODIE ON WHEN YOU GO ACROSS THE STREET MAKING SURE THAT YOU IN FACT IF YOU GET PULLED OVER JUST YES, SIR, NO SIR HE IS ON TOP OF THE WHEEL BECAUSE YOU ARE IN FACT A VICTIM WHETHER YEAR. A FIRST IN MAKING 300,000 CHILD OF $300,000 YEAR PERSON OR SOMEONE WHO'S ON FOOD STAMPS. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THERE IS INSTITUTIONAL RACISM AMERICA AND WE HAVE ALWAYS SAID WE'VE NEVER LIVED UP DO WE HOLD THESE TRUTHS TO BE SELF-EVIDENT ALL MEN AND WOMEN ARE CREATED EQUAL GUESS WHAT. I HAVE NEVER EVER LIVED UP TO PUT IT WE'VE ALWAYS CONSTANTLY MOVING THE NEEDLE FURTHER AND FURTHER TO INCLUSION NOT EXCLUSION. THIS IS THE FIRST PRESIDENT TO COME ALONG AND SAYS THAT'S THE END OF THAT WE'RE NOT CAN DO THAT ANYMORE. WE HAVE TO PROVIDE FOR ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY BETTER EDUCATION, BETTER HEALTH CARE BETTER ACCESS TO SCHOOL WE BETTER ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITY TO EVEN BORROW MONEY TO START BUSINESSES ALL THE THINGS WE CAN DO AND I'VE LAID OUT A CLEAR PLAN AS TO HOW TO DO THOSE THINGS JUST TO GIVE PEOPLE A SHOT IT'S ABOUT ACCUMULATING THE ABILITY TO HAVE WEALTH AS WELL AS IT IS TO BE FREE FROM VIOLENCE. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP SAME QUESTION TO YOU AND LET ME REMIND YOU OF THE QUESTION I WOULD LIKE YOU TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THESE FAMILIES DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY THESE PARENTS FEAR FOR THEIR CHILDREN. DO AND AGAIN. >> HE'S BEEN IN GOVERNMENT 47 YEARS HE NEVER DID A THING EXCEPT IN 1994. WHEN HE DID SUCH HARM TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND THEY WERE CALLED AND HE CALL THEM SUPER PREDATORS AND HE SAID THAT HE SAID IT'S SUPER PREDATORS. AND THEY CAN NEVER LIVE THAT DOWN 1994 CRIME BILL THE SUPER PREDATORS. NOBODY HAS DONE MORE FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND DONALD TRUMP. AND IF YOU LOOK WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN POSSIBLE EXCEPTION, BUT THE EXCEPTION OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN, NOBODY HAS DONE WHAT I'VE DONE CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM OBAMA AND JOE DIDN'T DO IT. I DON'T EVEN THINK THEY TRY BECAUSE THEY HAD NO CHANCE OF DOING IT. THEY MIGHT HAVE WANTED TO DO IT. BUT IF YOU HAD TO SEE THE ARMS I HAD IT TWICE TO GET THAT DONE IT WAS NOT A PRETTY PICTURE AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT INCLUDING SOME VERY LIBERAL PEOPLE THAT CRIED IN MY OFFICE THEY CRIED IN THE OVAL OFFICE. 2 WEEKS LATER THE ROUTE SAYING GEE WE HAVE TO DEFEAT HIM CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM PRISON REFORM OPPORTUNITY ZONES WITH TIM SCOTT A GREAT SENATOR FROM SOUTH CAROLINA. HE CAME IN WITH THIS INCREDIBLE IDEA FOR OPPORTUNITY ZONES, IT'S ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS PEOPLE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT, TREMENDOUS INVESTMENT IS BEING MADE BIGGEST BENEFICIARY, THE BLACK AND HISPANIC COMMUNITIES AND THEN HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES. AFTER 3 YEARS OF COMING TO THE OFFICE, I LOVE SOME OF THOSE GUYS THEY WERE GREAT THEY CAME INTO THE OFFICE AND THEY SAID I SAID WHAT DO YOU DO IF 3 SAID WHY DO YOU KEEP COMING BACK BECAUSE WE HAVE NO SAID YOU HAVE TO COME BACK EVERY YEAR. WE HAVE TO COME BACK BECAUSE PRESIDENT OBAMA WOULD NEVER GIVE THEM LONG-TERM FUNDING AND I DID 10 YEAR LONG-TERM FUNDING AND I GAVE THEM MORE MONEY THAN THEY ASKED FOR BECAUSE THEY SAID I THINK YOU NEED MORE. AND I SAID THE ONLY BAD PART ABOUT THIS IS I MAY NEVER SEE YOU AGAIN BECAUSE I GET VERY FRIENDLY WITH THEM AND THEY LIKE ME AND I LIKE THEM, BUT I SAVED IT FOR >> COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES HEY WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT BOTH OF YOUR RECORDS BUT YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT FACE OUR SPONSOR THAT IS I NEVER EVER SAID. >> WOULD YOU ACCUSE ME OF ST. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IN 2000 NOW. AFTER THE CRIME BILL AND THEN IN IN IN IN THE LAW FOR A WHILE THIS IS A GUY WHO SAID WITH THE PROBLEM OF THE CRIME BILL IS NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE IN JAIL. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE IN JAIL AND GO ON MY WEBSITE GET THE QUOTE TODAY WHEN HE SAID IT NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE. HE TALKED ABOUT MARAUDING GANGS YOUNG GANGS AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO MARAUDER CITIES. >> THIS IS A GUY WHO IN THE CENTRAL PARK 5, 5, INNOCENT BLACK KIDS HE CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR MAKING SURE THAT THEY GOT THE DEATH PENALTY NONE THEM WERE NONE OF THEM WERE GUILTY OF WHAT THE CRIME OF THE CRIMES ARE SUGGESTED LOOK AND TALK ABOUT EACH IT GRANTED HE DID IN FACT LEAD 20 PEOPLE HE COMMUTED 20 PEOPLE SENTENCES. WE COMMUTE OVER 1000 PEOPLE CENSUS. OVER 1000 THE VERY LAW HE'S TALKING ABOUT IS A LAW THAT IN FACT WHEN THE SHADED BY BARACK OBAMA AND SECONDLY WE'RE IN A SITUATION HERE WHERE WE MOVE IN THE FEDERAL PRISON SYSTEM WAS REDUCED BY 38,000 PEOPLE MINISTRATION AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE SHOULD BE DOING THERE SHOULD BE NO. NO MINIMUM MANDATORY IN THE LAW THAT'S WHAT I'M OFFERING 20 BILLION DOLLARS TO STATES TO CHANGE THEIR STATE LAWS TO ELIMINATE MINIMUM MANDATORY AND SET OF DRUG COURTS. NO ONE SHOULD BE GOING TO JAIL BECAUSE THEY HAVE A DRUG PROBLEM THEY SHOULD BE GOING TO REHABILITATION NOT TO JAIL. WE SHOULD FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE SYSTEM AND THAT'S WHO I'M GOING TO DO WHY DIDN'T HE DO IT FOR YEARS AGO. >> WHY DIDN'T YOU DO THAT FOR YEARS AGO EVEN LESS THAN THAT WHY DIDN'T MY AND YOU HAVE ICE PRESIDENT YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT ALL THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO DO AND YOU'RE GOING DO THIS. BUT YOU WERE THERE JUST A SHORT TIME AGO AND YOU GUYS DID NOTHING WE DID JOE I IRAN BECAUSE OF YOU IRAN BECAUSE OF BARACK OBAMA BECAUSE YOU DID A POOR JOB IF I SAID YOU DID A GOOD JOB I WOULD HAVE NEVER RUN I WOULD NEVER ON IRAN BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW YOU'RE A POLITICIAN. >> IRAN BECAUSE OF YOU ALL RIGHT GUYS PRESIDENT BIDEN YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT AND THEN I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR BOTH OF YOU WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT HOPE HE DOESN'T BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN YEARS. YOU KNOW WHO I AM YOU KNOW WHO HE IS YOU KNOW HIS CHARACTER YOU KNOW MY CHARACTER, YOU REPUTATIONS FOR HONOR IN TELLING THE TRUTH. I'M ANXIOUS TO HAVE THIS RACE, I'M ANXIOUS TO SEE THIS TAKE PLACE. I AM THE CHARACTER OF THE COUNTRY IS ON THE BALLOT. OUR CHARACTERS IN THE BALLOT LOOK AT THIS CLOSELY LET ME ASK SOME 1008 POLICE IS TRUE ABOUT RUSSIA UKRAINE CHINA OTHER COUNTRIES ARE WRECK. >> IF THIS IS TRUE THAT HE'S A CORRUPT POLITICIAN RIGHT SO DON'T GIVE ME THIS STUFF ABOUT HOW YOUR THIS INNOCENT BABY, JOE FIT CALLING YOU A CORRUPT POLITICIAN I WANT TO SAY ON THE ISSUE OF RACE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIVE SHOT FROM NOW PRESIDENT TRUMP NOBODY TALKING ABOUT RACE RIGHT NOW I DO WANT TO STAY ON THE ISSUE OF RACE RESPOND TO THAT PLACE IS LOOK VERY THERE ARE 50 FORMER NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE FOLKS. >> WHO SAID THAT WHAT THIS HE'S ACCUSING ME OF IS A RUSSIAN PLAN. >> THEY HAVE SAID THAT THIS IS HAS ALL THE CARE FOR 5 FORMER HEADS OF THE CIA BOTH PARTIES SAY WHAT HE'S SAYING IS A BUNCH OF GARBAGE. >> NOBODY BELIEVES IT HIS AND HIS GOOD FRIEND RUDY GIULIANI YOU MEAN THE LAPTOP IS NOW ANOTHER RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA, HOAX OH EXACTLY WHY THIS EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS OR WHERE HE'S GOING TO IS I WANT TO STAY ON THE ISSUE OF RADIO HEY BE KIDDING HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH THE RUSSIA. >> WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ON THE ISSUE OF RACE MISTER PRESIDENT WE'VE DESCRIBED THE BLACK LIVES MATTER MOVEMENT AS A SYMBOL OF HATE YOU'VE SHARED A VIDEO OF A MAN CHANTING WHITE POWER TO MILLIONS OF YOUR SUPPORTERS YOU'VE SAID THAT BLACK PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES EXERCISING THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS SHOULD BE FIRED. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO AMERICANS WHO SAY THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE FROM PRESIDENT IS CONTRIBUTING TO A CLIMATE OF HATE AND RACIAL STRIFE WAY OF THOSE IN THE FIRST TIME I EVER HEARD OF BLACK LIVES MATTER. >> THEY WERE CHANTING. >> PIGS IN A BLANKET TALKING ABOUT POLICE PIGS PIGS TALKING ABOUT OUR POLICE PIGS IN A BLANKET FRY EM LIKE BACON I SAID THAT'S A HORRIBLE THING AND THEY WERE MARCHING DOWN THE STREET AND THAT WAS MY GLIMPSE OF BLACK LIVES MATTER I THOUGHT IT WAS A TERRIBLE THING AS FAR MY RELATIONSHIPS WITH ALL PEOPLE I HAVE GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH ALL PEOPLE. I AM THE LEAST RACIST PERSON IN THIS ROOM, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO AMERICANS WHO ARE CONCERNED BY THAT RHETORIC I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY I GOT CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM DONE AND PRISON REFORM IN OPPORTUNITY ZONES I TOOK CARE OF BLACK. >> COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY THEY CAN SAY ANYTHING I MEAN THEY CAN SAY ANYTHING IT'S A VERY IT'S MAKES ME SAD BECAUSE I AM I AM THE LEAST RACIST PERSON I CAN EVEN SEE THE AUDIENCE BECAUSE IT'S SO DARK BUT I DON'T CARE WHO'S IN THE AUDIENCE. I'M THE LEAST RACES PERSON IN THIS ROOM. >> OKAY, VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN LET ME ASK YOU VERY QUICKLY AND THEN HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION FOR YOU ABRAHAM LINCOLN, HERE'S ONE OF THE MOST RACIST PRESIDENT WHO HAD IN MODERN HISTORY. HE POURS SURE ON EVERY SINGLE RACIST FIRE. EVERY SINGLE ONE STARTED OFF HIS CAMPAIGN COMING DOWN THE ESCALATOR SAYING IS GETTING RID OF THOSE MEXICAN RAPISTS HE'S BAN MUSLIMS BECAUSE THEY'RE MUSLIMS HE'S MOVING AROUND AND MADE EVERYTHING WORSE ACROSS THE BOARD. HE SAYS TO THEM ABOUT THE POOR BOYS. LAST TIME WE ARE ON STATION, SAID I TOLD STAND DOWN AND STAND READY THIS GUY'S A DOG WHISTLE ABOUT A BIG IS A FAR CORNER. >> PRESIDENT TO GIVE YOU 10 SECONDS TO RESPOND THAT I YOU MADE A REFERENCE TO ABRAHAM LINCOLN WHERE DID THAT COME INTO MEAN YOU SAY WANT TO WAGE A DAD, NO NO YOU SAY SAID NOT SINCE ABRAHAM LINCOLN HAS ANYBODY DONE WHAT I'VE DONE FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND I'M SAD TO SAY I'M A BRAND LIKE AND I SAID NOT SINCE ABRAHAM LINCOLN HAS ANYBODY DONE WHAT I'VE DONE FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY NOW YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING OTHER THAN THE CRIME BILL WHICH GOD THAT 10'S OF THOUSANDS OF BLACK MEN MOSTLY IN JAM ALL I LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE VOTING RIGHT NOW LET TREATED THEM ABOUT VERY BADLY JUST TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING OUT THERE, NICE PRESIDENT BY LET ME GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO RESPOND WITHIN THIS CONTEXT, CRIME BILLS THAT YOU SUPPORTED IN THE 80'S AND 90'S CONTRIBUTED TO THE INCARCERATION OF 10'S OF THOUSANDS OF YOUNG BLACK MEN. >> WHO HAD SMALL AMOUNTS OF DRUGS IN THEIR POSSESSION. THEIR SONS THEIR BROTHERS, THEIR FATHERS THEIR UNCLES WHOSE FAMILIES ARE STILL TO THIS DAY SOME OF THEM SUFFERING THE CONSEQUENCES SO SPEAK TO THOSE FAMILIES WHY SHOULD THEY VOTE FOR YOU ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT IN THE 80'S WE PASSED 100% ALL 100 SENATORS VOTED FOR IT. >> A BILL ON DRUG USE AND HOW TO DEAL WITH DRUGS IT WAS A MISTAKE. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO CHANGE A SENSE IN PARTICULARLY THE PORTION OR COCAINE. THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN ARGUING THAT IN FACT WE SHOULD NOT SEND ANYONE TO JAIL FOR A PURE DRUG OFFENSE. THEY SHOULD BE GOING INTO TREATMENT ACROSS THE BOARD. THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE SPENDING MONEY. THAT'S WHY SET OF DRUG COURTS WHICH ARE NEVER FUNDED BY REPUBLICAN FRIENDS. THEY SHOULD NOT BE GOING TO JAIL FOR A DRUG OR AN ALCOHOL PROBLEM THEY SHOULD BE GOING INTO TREATMENT. TREATMENT. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO GET DONE BECAUSE THINK MAYBE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE NOW SEEN THAT FACT A IT'S A MISTAKE TO PASS THOSE LAWS RELATED THE DRUG BUT THEY WERE NOT IN THE CRIME, BUT WHY DIDN'T YOU GET IT DONE SHE IT'S ALL TALK NO ACTION WITH THESE POLITICIANS WHY DIDN'T HE GET IT DONE. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M GONNA DO WHEN I BECOME PRESIDENT. YOU ARE VICE PRESIDENT ALONG WITH OBAMA AS YOUR PRESIDENT YOU LATER FOR 8 YEARS WHY DIDN'T YOU GET IT DONE GET 8 YEARS TO GET IT DONE NOW YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT DONE BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL TALK AND NO ACTION JOY GOT LOT WE RELEASED 38,000 PRISONERS LEFT FROM YOU 38,000 PRISONERS WERE RELEASED FROM FEDERAL PRISON. WE HAVE FEAR THERE WERE OVER 1000 PEOPLE WHO WERE GIVEN CLEMENCY. WE A CONTRACT WHERE THE ONES TO PUT IN THE LEGISLATION SAYING WE CAN LOOK AT PATTERN AND PRACTICE OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS ARE WHAT DOING HOW THEY'RE CONDUCTING THEMSELVES. I COULD GO ON, BUT WE BEGAN THE PROCESS WE BEGAN THE PROCESS WE LOST AN ELECTION THAT'S WHY I'M RUNNING TO WIN BACK THAT ELECTION AND CHANGES TERRIBLE QUESTIONS WHY DIDN'T YOU DO IT IN THE 8 YEARS OF A SHORT TIME AGO WHY DIDN'T YOU DO YOU JUST SAID I'M GONNA DO THAT I'M GOING DO THIS. YOU PUT 10 AUGUST THOUSANDS OF MOSTLY BLACK YOUNG MEN IN PRISON NOW YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GOOD YOU'RE GOING DO THAT WHY DIDN'T YOU GET A 10 YEAR 8 YEARS WITH OBAMA. >> YOU KNOW I JOB BECAUSE YEAR-OLD TALK. >> AND NO ACTION RIGHT VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SECTION. >> REPUBLICAN CONGRESS. THIS ANSWER DON'T YOU GO TO TALK HIM INTO IT YOU THAT IT TOOK HIM INTO IT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ACTUALLY GUY DID WAS CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM I HAD TALKED DEMOCRATS INTO JOB AND YOU'RE DOING IT WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME SO WE'VE GOT TO GET ON TO CLIMATE CHANGE FEES. >> YOU BOTH HAVE VERY DIFFERENT VISIONS ON CLIMATE CHANGE. PRESIDENT TRUMP YOU SAY THAT ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS HAVE HURT JOBS IN THE ENERGY SECTOR. VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN YOU HAVE SAID YOU SEE ADDRESSING CLIMATE CHANGE AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE NEW JOBS FOR EACH OF YOU HOW WOULD YOU BOTH COMBAT CLIMATE CHANGE AND SUPPORT JOB GROWTH AT THE SAME TIME STARTING WITH YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP. >> YOU HAVE 2 MINUTES UNINTERRUPTED. WE HAVE TO TREAT INJURIES PROGRAM WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT PROGRAMS I DO LOVE THE ENVIRONMENT, BUT WHAT I WANT IS THAT CLEAN IS CRYSTAL CLEAR WATER. THE CLEANEST AIR WE HAVE THE BEST LOWEST NUMBER IN CARBON EMISSIONS WHICH IS A BIG STANDARD THAT I NOTICE OBAMA GOES WITH ALL THE TIME, NOT JOE AVENUE JOE USE THE TERM BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HE KNOWS WHAT MEANS, BUT I HAVE HEARD OBAMA IS IT. >> AND WE HAVE THE BEST CARBON EMISSION NUMBERS THAT WE'VE HAD IN 35 YEARS UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION WE ARE WORKING SO WELL WITH INDUSTRY, BUT WE HIS WHAT WE CAN TO LOOK AT CHINA AND HOW FILTHY IT IS LOOK AT RUSSIA. LOOK AT INDIA ITS FILL THINK THE AIR IS FILTHY THE PARIS ACCORD I TOOK US OUT BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND WE WERE TREATED VERY UNFAIRLY WHEN THEY PUT US IN THAT THEY DID US A GREAT DISSERVICE. THEY WANT TAKE AWAY OUR BUSINESSES I WILL NOT SACRIFICE. 10'S OF MILLIONS OF JOBS, THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF COMPANIES BECAUSE OF THE PARIS ACCORD IT WAS SO UNFAIR CHINA DOESN'T KICK IN UNTIL 2030 RUSSIA GOES BACK TO A LOW STANDARD AND WE KID DIDN'T RIGHT AWAY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IT WOULD HAVE DESTROYED OUR BUSINESSES SELL HE READY. WE HAVE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB ENVIRONMENTALLY IF THE CLEANEST AIR THE CLEANEST WATER AND THE BEST CARBON EMISSION STANDARDS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN MANY MANY YEARS. >> VICE PRESIDENT WILL HAVE BEEN DESTROYED OR INDUSTRIES. >> VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN 2 MINUTES TO YOU AND INTERRUPTED. >> CLIMATE CHANGE CLIMATE MORE READ THE GLOBAL WARMING IS A NEXUS IS A THREAT TO HUMANITY. WE HAVE A MORAL OBLIGATION TO DO WITH IT. AND WE'RE TOLD BY ALL THE LEADING SCIENTISTS THE WORLD. WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME. WE'RE GOING TO PASS THE POINT OF NO RETURN BUT THE NEXT 8 TO 10 YEARS. 4 MORE YEARS OF THIS MAN ELIMINATING ALL THE REGULATIONS THAT WERE PUT IN MY ASKED TO CLEAN UP THE CLIMATE TO CLEAN UP TO LIMIT LIMIT EMISSIONS. WE'LL PUT US IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE IN REAL TROUBLE. HERE'S WHERE WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. I WAS ABLE TO GET BOTH ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL AS LABOR, THE PEOPLE WORRIED ABOUT JOBS TO SUPPORT MY CLIMATE PLAN BECAUSE WHAT IT DOES IT WILL CREATE MILLIONS OF NEW GOOD PAYING JOBS WE'RE GOING TO INVEST IN FOR EXAMPLE, 500,000 50 SHOTS TO BE 50,000 CHARGING STATIONS ON OUR HIGHWAYS SO THAT WE CAN ONLY ELECTRIC CAR MARKET IN THE FUTURE. THE MEANTIME CHINA IS DOING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SEE TO IT THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE 4 MILLION EXISTING BILLION BUILDINGS AND 2 MILLION EXISTING HOMES AND RETROFIT THEM SO THEY DON'T MAKE AS MUCH ENERGY SAVING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF BARRELS OF OIL IN THE PROCESS IN CREATING SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF JOBS AND BY THE WAY WHOLE IDEA OF WHAT THIS IS ALL GOING TO DO ITS CONCRETE. MILLIONS OF JOBS AND IT'S GOING TO CLEAN THE ENVIRONMENT OUR HEALTH AND OUR JOBS ARE AT STAKE. THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED. AND WHAT RIGHT NOW BY THE WAY WALL STREET FIRMS INDICATED THAT MY PLAN MY MY PLAN WILL IN FACT CREATE 18.6 MILLION JOBS, 7 MILLION MORE THAN IS WALL STREET AND AL CREATE 1 TRILLION DOLLARS MORE IN ECONOMIC GROWTH AND HIS PROPOSAL DOES NOT ON CLIMATE JUST AN ECONOMY PRESIDENT TRUMP ERA CAME OUT AND SAID VERY STRONGLY. >> $6,500 WILL BE TAKEN AWAY FROM FAMILIES UNDER HIS PLAN THAT HIS PLAN IS AN ECONOMIC DISASTER. IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT HE WANTS TO DO YOU KNOW THE IF YOU LOOK AT HIS YOU KNOW DEVELOP C PLUS 3. THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT CLIMATE. I MEAN SHE'S GOT A GOOD LANA STUFF, BUT SHE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT THE CLIMATE AND THEY'RE ALL HOPPING THROUGH HOOPS FOR A A C PLUS 3. LOOK. IT WILL PLAN COSTS A 100 TRILLION DOLLARS. IF WE HAD THE BEST YEAR IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY FOR A 100 YEARS WE WOULD NOT EVEN COME CLOSE TO A NUMBER LIKE THAT WHEN HE SAYS BUILDINGS THEY WANT TO TAKE BUILDINGS AND BECAUSE THEY WANT TO MAKE BIGGER WINDOWS INTO SMALLER WINDOWS AS FAR AS THEY'RE CONCERNED IF YOU HAD NO WINDOW IT WOULD BE A LOVELY THING. THIS IS THE CRAZIEST PLAN THAT ANYBODY HAS EVER SEEN AND THIS WASN'T DONE BY SMART PEOPLE. THIS WASN'T DONE BY ANYBODY FRANKLY, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW IT COULD BE GOOD POLITICALLY THEY WANT TO SPEND A 100 TRILLION DOLLARS THAT'S THE REAL NUMBER IS TRYING TO SAY WAS 6. TRILLION DOLLARS THEY WANT TO KNOCK DOWN BUILDINGS AND BUILD NEW BUILDINGS WITH LITTLE TINY SMALL WINDOWS ME AND MANY OTHER THINGS MANY OF THE THREAT MAY HAVE THE VICE PRESIDENT AND WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME AND WE HAVE A LOT MORE QUESTIONS SO LET'S HEAR FROM THE VICE PRESIDENT AND I HAVE A NUMBER MORE QUESTION DON'T KNOW WHERE HE COMES FROM. >> I WORRY COMES UP WITH THESE NUMBERS, 100 TRILLION DOLLARS. GIVE ME A BREAK. THIS PLAN WAS AND THIS IS PLANS INDOORS FOR EVERY MAJOR EVERY MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS. EVERY LABOR GROUP LABOR, BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE FUTURE LIES THE FUTURE LIES NOT BEEN ABLE TO BREATHE AND THEY KNOW THEY'RE GOOD JOBS AND GETTING THIS THERE AND BY THE WAY THE FASTEST GROWING INDUSTRY IN AMERICA OR IS IS IS IT THE ELECTRIC TO THE SOLAR ENERGY AND WIND HE THINKS WHEN CAUSES KIDS ARE WHEN MILLS. IT'S THE FASTEST GROWING JOBS AND THEY PAID GOOD PREVAILING WAGES, 4550 BUCKS AN HOUR. WE CAN GROW AND WE CAN BE CLEANER IF WE CAN GO THROUGH TO PROPOSE. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP ME WE ARE ALL ENERGY INDEPENDENCE FOR THE FIRST TIME. WE DON'T NEED ALL OF THESE COUNTRIES THAT WE HAD TO FIGHT WAR OVER BECAUSE WE NEED THEIR ENERGY WE'RE ENERGY INDEPENDENT I KNOW MORE ABOUT WHEN THE NEW DUE TO EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE KILLS ALL THE BIRDS IS VERY INTERMITTENT IT'S GOT A LOT OF PROBLEMS AND THEY HAPPEN TO MAKE THE WINDMILLS IN BOTH GERMANY AND CHINA AND THE FUMES COMING UP IF YOU'RE A BELIEVER IN CARBON EMISSION THE FUMES COMING UP TO MAKE MAKE THESE MASSIVE WIND MILLS IS MORE THAN ANYTHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH NATURAL GAS WHICH IS VERY CLEAN ONE OF THE THINK FINALLY A SOLAR CITY THAT I LOVE SOLAR, BUT SO IT DOESN'T QUITE HAVE IT GET ITS NOT POWERFUL AND YET TO TO REALLY RUN OUR BIG BEAUTIFUL FACTORIES THAT WE NEED TO COMPETE WITH THE WORLD. SO ALL THIS OIL PIPE DREAM, BUT YOU KNOW I WILL DO WE'RE GOING HAVE THE GREATEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD, BUT IF YOU WANT TO KILL THE ECONOMY GET RID OF FEWER OIL INDUSTRY YOU WANT AND WHAT ABOUT FRACKING ALL RIGHT LET ME ALLOW VICE PRESIDENT I WAS NEVER SAID I OPPOSE FRACKING YOU SAID I TAPE I DID THE SHOW PUT IT ON YOUR WEB SITE PUT IT THE WEBSITE, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IS LOT LINE WOULD YOU ALLOW BANNING FRACKING I DO RULE OUT ANY TRACKING BECAUSE THE ANSWER WE NEED WE NEED OTHER. >> INDUSTRIES TO TRANSITION TO GET TO A COMPLETE 0 EMISSIONS BY 2025. WHAT I WILL DO IS TRACK IT OVER TIME IS MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CAPTURE THE ADMISSIONS FROM THE FRACKING CAPTURE THEIR EMISSIONS FROM GAS. WE CAN DO THAT AND WE CAN DO THAT BY INVESTING MONEY INTO AN EVIL IS A TRANSITION TO THAT I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION OF THIS MAYBE HE WAS AGAINST RACK AND HE SAID I WILL SHOW THAT TO YOU TOMORROW I AM AGAINST FRACKING ON JULIE GOT THE NOMINATION WENT TO PENNSYLVANIA THAT HE SAID. >> BUT YOU KNOW WHAT PENNSYLVANIA HE'LL BE AGAINST IT VERY SOON BECAUSE HIS PARTY IS TOTALLY AGAINST FRACKING ON FEDERAL LAND I SAID NO FRACKING YOURSELF OR ON HIS LET ME ASK QUESTION IN THIS SECTION AND THEN I WANT TO MOVE ON TO OUR FINAL SECTION. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO LIVE NEAR OIL REFINERIES AND CHEMICAL PLANTS IN TEXAS, THEIR FAMILIES WHO WORRY THE PLANTS NEAR THEM ARE MAKING THEM SICK. YOUR ADMINISTRATION HAS ROLLED BACK REGULATIONS ON THESE KINDS OF FACILITIES WHY SHOULD THESE FAMILIES GIVE YOU ANOTHER 4 YEARS IN OFFICE THE FAMILIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE. >> EMPLOYED HEAVILY AND THEY'RE MAKING A LOT OF MONEY MORE MONEY THAN THEY'VE EVER MADE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE KIND OF NUMBERS THAT WE PRODUCE FOR HISPANIC OR BLACK OR ASIAN. IT'S 9 TIMES GREATER THE PERCENTAGE GAIN THAN IT WAS UNDER IN 3 YEARS THAT IT WAS UNDER 8 YEARS. >> OF THE 2 OF THEM TO PUT IT NICELY. 9 TIMES MORE. NOW. SOMEBODY LIVES I HAVE NOT HEARD THE NUMBERS ARE THIS TO TEST SADISTIC SAID YOU'RE SAYING BUT THEY'RE MAKING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY ECONOMICALLY WE SAVED IT AND I SAVED IT AGAIN A NUMBER OF MONTHS AGO WHEN OIL WAS CRASHING BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC WE SAVED WE GOT SAY WHAT YOU WANT A BETTER RELATIONSHIP WE GOT SAUDI ARABIA MEXICO AND RUSSIA TO CUT BACK WAY BACK WE SAVED A REAL INDUSTRY AND NOW IT'S VERY VIBRANT A BODY IS VERY INEXPENSIVE GASOLINE REVISE THE PRESIDENT BIDEN YOUR RESPONSE AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FINAL QUESTION FOR BOTH OF YOU MY RESPONSE IS THAT THOSE PEOPLE LIVE WHAT THEY CALL FENCE LINE SHE DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS. >> THEY LIVE NEAR CHEMICAL PLANTS THAT IN FACT CLUED CHEMICAL PLANTS AND OIL PLANTS AND REFINERIES THAT POLLUTE I SALUTE KNEW THAT WHEN I WAS GROWING UP IN CLAREMONT DELAWARE. AND ALL THE MORE OIL REFINERIES IN MARCUS HOOK IN THE DELAWARE RIVER, THEN THERE IS ANY PLACE INCLUDING THE NEWS TO THE TIME. MY MOM GET IN THE CAR AND WENT TO WIN THEIR FIRST FROST TO DRIVE ME TO SCHOOL TURNING TO ENSURE BP OIL SLICK IN THE WIND. THAT'S WHY SO MANY PEOPLE IN MY STATE DYING AND GETTING CANCER. THE FACT IS THOSE FRONTLINE COMMUNITIES DON'T MATTER WHAT YOUR PAIN AND IT MATTERS HOW YOU KEEP THEM SAFE. WHAT DO YOU DO YOU IMPOSE RESTRICTIONS ON THE POLLUTION IS THAT IT TO PUTIN'S COMING OUT OF THOSE FENCE LINE. COMMUNITIES. >> OKAY, I HAVE ONE FINAL WAY CLOSE THE WOULD YOU TRANSITION FROM THEIR OWN HISTORY. WILL TRANSITION THAT IS A BIG STATEMENT THAT'S BECAUSE WOULD STOP WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE OIL INDUSTRY SIGNIFICANTLY. I SAID HERE'S THE DEAL WELL IF YOU LET ME FINISH A STATEMENT. WELL BECAUSE IT HAS TO REPLACED BY RENEWABLE ENERGY OVER TIME OVER TIME AND I STOPPED GIVING TO THE OIL INDUSTRY I'D STOP GIVING THEM FEDERAL SUBSIDIES FOR YOU WON'T GET FEDERAL SUBSIDIES TO THE TAKE THE GAS AND SHOOT ME TO TO SOLAR AND WIND. YEAH, WHY WE GIVE IT TO THE OIL INDUSTRY WE ACTUALLY DO ALL RIGHT A SOLAR WIND. STATEMENT IN TERMS OF BUSINESS THAT'S THE SAYS HE IS GOING DESTROY THE OIL INDUSTRY WHO YOU REMEMBER THAT TEXAS WILL REMEMBER THAT PENNSYLVANIA OKLAHOMA'S PRESIDENT BIDEN LET ME GIVE YOU 10 SECONDS TO BUT I HAVE TO GET TO THE FINAL QUESTION VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN. >> HE TAKES EVERYTHING OUT OF CONTEXT, BUT THE POINT IS STUCK. WE HAVE TO MOVE TOWARD A NET 0 EMISSIONS. THE FIRST PLACE TO DO THAT BY THE YEAR 2035 IS AN ENERGY PRODUCTION. >> BY 2050 TOTALLY ALL RIGHT NEVER FINAL ARE SICK OR TO MAKE CHINA BY BY WHAT THEY LEADERSHIP GENTLEMAN AND THIS FIRST QUESTION DOES GO TO YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP. IMAGINE THIS IS YOUR INAUGURATION DAY. >> WHAT WILL YOU SAY IN YOUR ADDRESS TO AMERICA TO AMERICANS WHO DID NOT VOTE FOR YOU YOU'LL EACH HAVE ONE MINUTE STARTING WITH THE MISS WE HAVE TO MAKE A COUNTRY. >> TOTALLY SUCCESSFUL AS IT WAS PRIOR TO THE PLANE COMING IN FROM CHINA. NOW WE'RE REBUILDING IT AND WE'RE DOING RECORD NUMBERS, 11.4 MILLION JOBS THE SHORT PERIOD OF TIME ET CETERA, BUT I WILL TELL YOU GO BACK. BEFORE THE PLANE CAME IN JUST BEFORE I WAS GETTING CALLS FROM PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT NORMALLY PEOPLE WOULD CALL ME THEY WANTED TO GET TOGETHER WE HAD THE BEST BLACK. UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS IN HISTORY OF A COUNTRY HISPANIC WOMEN, ASIAN PEOPLE WITH DIPLOMAS WITH NO DIPLOMAS MIT GRADUATES NUMBER ONE IN THE CLASS EVERYBODY HAD THE BEST NUMBERS AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE OTHER SIDE WANTED TO GET TOGETHER THEY WANTED TO UNIFY SUCCESS IS GOING TO BRING US TOGETHER. WE ARE ON THE ROAD TO SUCCESS BUT I'M CUTTING TAXES AND HE WANTS TO RAISE EVERYBODY'S TAXES. HE WANTS TO PUT NEW REGULATIONS AND EVERYTHING HE WILL KILL IT. >> IF HE GETS AN YOU'LL HAVE A DEPRESSION, THE LIKES OF WHICH YOU'VE NEVER SEEN YOUR 4 O ONE K'S WILL GO TO HELP AND IT WILL BE A VERY VERY SAD DAY FOR THIS COUNTRY ALL RIGHT. >> VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN SAME QUESTION TO YOU WHAT WILL YOU SAY DURING YOUR INAUGURAL ADDRESS TO AMERICANS WHO DID NOT VOTE FOR YOU HOW SAY. >> I'M AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT. I REPRESENT ALL OF YOU WHETHER YOU VOTED FOR ME OR AGAINST ME AND I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU REPRESENTED I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU HOPE WE'RE GOING TO MOVE OR TO CHEW SCIENCE OVER FICTION. RESEARCHERS HOPE OVER FEAR, WE'RE GOING CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE AN ENORMOUS OPPORTUNITIES, ENORMOUS OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE THINGS BETTER. WE CAN GROW THIS ECONOMY WE CAN DEAL WITH THE SYSTEMIC RACISM AND THE SAME TIME WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT OUR ECONOMY IS BEING RUN AND MOVED AND MOTIVATED BY CLEAN ENERGY CREATING MILLIONS OF NEW JOBS. AND THAT'S THE FACT THAT SO WE'RE GOING TO DO AND I'M GOING TO SAY AS I SAID IT BEGAN THE WHAT IS ON THE BALLOT HERE IS THE CHARACTER OF THIS COUNTRY. HE SAYS HE HONOR RESPECT TREAT PEOPLE WITH DIGNITY, MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS AN EVEN CHANCE. I'M GONNA MAKE SURE YOU GET THAT YOU HAVE INDICATED THAT THE LAST 4 YEARS. >> ALL RIGHT I WANT TO THANK YOU BOTH FOR A VERY ROBUST HOUR AND A HALF A FANTASTIC DEBATE REALLY APPRECIATED PRESIDENT TRUMP'S FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN THANK YOU TO BELMONT UNIVERSITY FOR HOSTING US TONIGHT AND MOST IMPORTANTLY. THANK YOU TO THOSE WATCHING TONIGHT ELECTION DAY IS NOVEMBER 3RD DON'T FORGET TO VOTE. THANK YOU EVERYONE AND HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. >> THERE YOU HAVE IT THE SECOND PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE DONALD TRUMP AND JOE BIDEN. THE FACT CHECKERS WILL HAVE TO HAVE BE UP LATE TONIGHT. I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY. WE'LL HAVE MORE TO TALK ABOUT THAT A MOMENT, WHAT WE SAW THERE MUCH DIFFERENT PRESENTATION THAN WE SAW IN THE LAST DEBATE WE SAW 2 DONALD TRUMPS THEIR THE. THE FLASHES NEAR THE END OF THE ONE WE HEARD IN THE LAST DEBATE A LITTLE MORE COMBATIVE TALKING OVER A, BUT CERTAINLY A LOT MORE RESTRAINED THAN WE SAW HIM IN THE YEAH AND WE HAD A REAL DEBATE, THERE WAS SUBSTANCE DISCUSSED THERE WERE POLICIES DISCUSS THERE WAS BACK AND FORTH. I THINK IT WILL BE A RELIEF TO A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT THERE WASN'T THAT INTERRUPTING THAT WE SAW IN THE FIRST DEBATE IT DIDN'T DEVOLVE INTO DEEPLY PERSONAL AREAS AND THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE GOT A REAL LOOK TONIGHT. >> AND WHAT THE CHOICE IS BEFORE THEM AND THE QUESTION IS THAT EACH OF THESE MEN DO WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, 12 DAYS OF THE ELECTION. THE POLLS BEING WHAT THEY ARE LET'S GO TO A CHALK TIED RIGHT NOW WHO'S BEEN WATCHING ALONG WITH SHOT RIGHT AT THE TOP 5. WHAT STOOD OUT. >> WELL FIRST OF ALL THE MUTED MIKE'S THING TURNED OUT TO BE A GOOD IDEA I BELIEVE ALL UP I'LL BE HONEST. I WAS A BIT SKEPTICAL, BUT I THINK THAT WAS ACTUALLY A VERY HELPFUL TOOL. I DO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR COLLEAGUE CHRIS MARKER. I THINK JUST HAD IT A TREMENDOUS COMMAND OF THIS DEBATE AND I THINK IT ACTUALLY HELPED FACILITATE. WHAT WAS A LOOK AT THE END OF THE DAY. I DO THINK VIEWERS GOT THE MEASURE OF BOTH OF THESE MEN I THINK THIS DEBATE STILL WHO THEY ARE I THINK IN MANY WAYS IF YOU'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THE CAMPAIGN CLOSELY PROBABLY DID NOT LEARN A LOT BUT COMPARED TO WHAT WE SAW IN THAT FIRST DEBATE. I THINK THERE'S ALMOST A SIGH OF RELIEF THAT WE AT LEAST GOT AN IDEA OF WHAT EACH MIGHT DO THE THING THAT STRUCK ME THE MOST STUFF ABOUT THIS DEBATE WAS HOW MUCH THE PRESIDENT. SORT OF TOOK HIS DEFENSIVENESS AND TRY TO ACT LIKE A CHALLENGER CANDIDATE. HE DIDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT WHAT HE WAS GOING TO WIN A SECOND TERM HE WOULD NOT TALK MUCH ABOUT SORT OF DEFENDING THE OF THE ATTACKS ON HIMSELF, BUT HE KEPT TRYING IN SOME WAYS HE WAS TRYING TO MAKE JOE BIDEN THE INCUMBENT HE'S BEEN TRYING TO SORT OF RECREATE HIS OCTOBER 2016 MOJO WHICH I GET BUT HE'S THE INCUMBENT PRESIDENT AND I THINK ULTIMATELY TONIGHT THE QUESTION I HAVE IS AS HE WAS TRYING TO DEFLECT ANSWERS ON HEALTH CARE DEFLECT ANSWERS ON COVID DEFLECT ANSWERS ON ON THE ECONOMY. ARE FOLKS THAT ARE WATCHING THAT GO WAIT A MINUTE WHO WHO'S BEEN THE PRESIDENT THE LAST 4 YEARS YOU OR THAT OTHER GUY AND THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAVE I DO THINK THOUGH THAT DONALD TRUMP PROBABLY STOP THE BLEEDING TONIGHT AND THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT MOMENT IF YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN WAS THE PRESIDENT ABLE TO PUMP AIR INTO THIS OCTOBER SURPRISE THAT HE'S BEEN HE'S BEEN WORKING E-MAILS THE HUNTER BIDEN STUFF HE KEPT BRINGING IT UP. >> I FEEL AS IF THE WHEN HE WOULD TALK ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS PARTICULAR THAT ISSUE AND A COUPLE OTHER TIMES. I DON'T SAY THAT VERY SHORT AND I FELT LIKE HE WAS ALMOST SPEAKING THE LANGUAGE OF FOX PRIME TIME. AND IF YOU WATCH A LOT OF FOX PRIME-TIME YOU UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE WAS SAYING. BUT IF YOU DON'T YOU HAVE NO BE HONEST WITH YOU I HAD SOME IDEA FOR WHAT IS THAT I DIDN'T HEAR THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS AND I SIMPLY SAID WELL YOU KNOW SPEAK THAT LANGUAGE AND I DO THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE PRESIDENT'S PROBLEM IS IT. HE DID SPEAK. TO FOLKS WHO ALREADY UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S SAYING. DIDDY ACTUALLY TALK TO ANYBODY WHO'S VACILLATING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND DID HE MAKE A PITCH TO BRING THEM BACK TO HIM I DID NOT HEAR THAT KIND OF PITCH AND I DO THINK WHEN HE WHEN HE WENT AFTER BIDEN PERSONALLY WENT AFTER THAT HUNTER BIDEN STUFF. I JUST YOU KNOW IF YOU DIDN'T FOLLOW IT CLOSELY YOU PROBABLY DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE HIT IS LET ME BRING IN ANDREA MITCHELL NBC SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT ANDREA IF IF SUBURBAN WOMEN. >> ARE THE VOTERS TO GET IF THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE GOING TO DECIDE THIS ELECTION. THERE WASN'T MUCH CHRIS FOR PRESENTATION FROM BOTH CANDIDATES ACTUALLY TONIGHT AGAIN OUT ECHO CHECK TIDE. HOW WERE CHEERING FOR THE HOME TEAM I THINK BECAUSE OF THE ABLE MODERATION OF WALKER A COLLEAGUE BUT THAT ASIDE DO YOU THINK THAT THOSE SWING VOTERS. WILL TAKE AWAY ANYTHING TONIGHT THAT COULD POSSIBLY HELP THEM CHANGE THEIR MINDS. I DO I THINK FIRST OF ALL THEY SAW DEBATE AND KUDOS TO CHRISTIAN AND THE WAY IT WAS STRUCTURED THE THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WENT INTO THAT AND THE COMMAND THAT SHE IS CERTAIN BUT SHE ACTUALLY GOT THEM TO DEBATE WITH EACH OTHER, SO YOU HEARD AN INCREDIBLE CONTRAST IN POLICIES. BUT FRANKLY, THE FACT CHECKERS ARE HAVING A FIELD DAY BECAUSE BY MY COUNT ON RACE AND THE ENVIRONMENT ON MINIMUM WAGE ON IMMIGRATION AND SEPARATING CHILDREN. JUST THE FACTS ARE VERY MUCH MORE SO WITH JOE BIDEN AND DONALD TRUMP AND I THINK THE THEME CALLOUS ASPECTS OF SEPARATION OF CHILDREN. YOU KNOW THESE ARE THE ISSUES ON COVID THAT I THINK REALLY DO RESONATE WITH THOSE SUBURBAN WOMEN THAT IS WHY THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN LOSING THE SUPPORT FROM THOSE WHEN I WAS IN PENNSYLVANIA YESTERDAY AND TALKING TO PEOPLE AND IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THAT IS THE KEY PROBLEM THAT HE IS HAVING STILL LOSING THE SUPPORT OF SUBURBAN WOMEN AND THE PRESIDENT OF COURSE. IS HOPING THAT HE CAN GAIN THEM BACK OR HAVE ENOUGH. VOTERS IN THE RURAL AREAS, OTHER OTHER WHITE MAN AND BRING THEM BACK IN THE FOLD, BUT RIGHT NOW I THINK IN THIS DEBATE. THE CARE AND EMPATHY THAT JOE BIDEN SHOWED AND IT WAS THE BEST DEBATE I'VE EVER SEEN JOE BIDEN DO I THINK THAT HE ROSE THE CHALLENGE HE DIDN'T GET RATTLED. AND I WOULD AGREE WITH THIS TRACK THAT FOR INTRICACIES OF THESE ALLEGATIONS WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN PROVED. I THINK THOSE SCAPE A LOT OF PEOPLE EXCEPT TO THE ECHO CHAMBER AND OF COURSE THE THE PRESIDENT IN THE WHITE HOUSE A VERY BIG MEGAPHONE AND THEY DO HAVE FOX AND THEIR WHOLE MEDIA OPERATION. KEEP AMPLIFYING IT BUT AGAIN I THINK THAT ON COVID AND THE THINGS THAT MOVE PEOPLE REALLY CARE ABOUT THE HEALTH OF THEIR CHILDREN. THE SUBURBAN WOMEN ARE GOING TO HEAR THIS DEBATE AND HERE JOE BIDEN TALK ABOUT BEING A PRESIDENT FOR ALL OF OUR PEOPLE AND NOT BEING THAT COMBAT IT. >> ALL RIGHT ANDREW THANK'S INSERTED DAVID PLUS NOW HE WAS BARACK OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN MANAGER IN A WAY THAT ALSO SERVED IN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AS A SENIOR ADVISER TO THE PRESIDENT HE'S A BIDEN SUPPORTER TO NBC NEWS ANALYST AS WELL DAVID, WHAT STOOD OUT TONIGHT AND DOES THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN HAVE SOMETHING NEW TO WORRY ABOUT TONIGHT. >> I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING TO WORRY ABOUT AND I AGREE WITH CHUCK, MAYBE THERE'S NO MORE BLEEDING ON THE TRUMP SIDE BUT TRUMP'S AT A PLACE WHERE IT'S NOT JUST ENOUGH TO STOP THE BLEEDING. HE'S GOT TO GET PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING YOU KNOW WHAT I WAS LEANING BIDEN FOR TRULY UNDECIDED AND NOW I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP. AND MY SUSPICION IS THEY DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THERE THAT YOU SIGN ME UP FOR ANOTHER 4 YEARS. I THOUGHT THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE DAY WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE DEBATE WHICH IS THE ISSUE OF MOST PEOPLE'S MIND COVID DONALD TRUMP'S EMO CASH MOST PASSIONATE DEBATE LESTER WHEN HE WAS ATTACKING JOE BIDEN'S FAMILY, YOU KNOW NOW HE WAS TALKING ABOUT COVID NOT WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HEALTH CARE NOW HE WAS TALKING ABOUT KIDS HAVE BEEN SEPARATED FROM THEIR FAMILY. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY IN A RACE THAT YOU'RE LEAVING AT THE BARE MINIMUM YOU WANT TO LEAVE IT FEELING LIKE YOU DID IN A ROAD ANY SUPPORT AND I DON'T THINK JOE BIDEN DID THAT AND I AGREE WITH CHUCK, I THINK PART OF DONALD TRUMP'S TRUMPERS ENTIRE PRESIDENCY IS HE'S LIVING IN THIS BOX ALTERNATIVE VERSION OF REALITY WHICH THERE'S A LOT OF INTENSITY THERE. BUT THAT'S LIKE AT MOST 30% OF THE COUNTRY AND LAST TIME I CHECKED NEED 50% OF THE VOTE TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY TIME DAVID THANKS WELL, LET'S BRING IN RADIO TALK SHOW HOST HUGH HEWITT AND NBC NEWS POLITICAL ANALYST PRESIDENT THE RICHARD NIXON FOUNDATION AND A TRUMP SUPPORTER I WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU THOUGHT ABOUT TONIGHT'S DEBATE. IT WAS A DIFFERENT CHOMP. >> TO SAY IT WAS BETTER THAN THE FIRST DEBATE MAYBE IS SETTING THE BAR A LITTLE BIT TOO LOW, BUT DID YOU FIND YOURSELF WISHING, YOU'VE SEEN MORE OF THIS VERSION OF PRESIDENT TRUMP ALONG THE WAY. >> ALSO WE SHOULD YESTERDAY ABSOLUTELY AND WE SHOULD SEE MORE OF THIS VERSION OF JOE BIDEN THE I WILL TRANSITION AWAY FROM THE OIL SLEEPER MOMENT IN THIS DEBATE CAME AT THE END WHEN JOE BIDEN NOT TO SHUTTING DOWN OF AMERICAN OIL INDUSTRY AND I BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE SOUND BITE THAT'S GOING TO TRAVEL AS I SAID BEFORE THE DEBATE YET TO TALK TO PENNSYLVANIA AND THE PRESIDENT DID HE TALK A NEW REPEATEDLY ABOUT FRACKING'S WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME FACT CHECKS ON THE VICE PRESIDENT'S RECORD ON VOTING, BUT THE OIL INDUSTRY THAT HAVE RETURNED TO THE PARIS ACCORDS I WAS AN UNFORCED ERROR BY JOE BIDEN AND I THINK WILL RESONATE WITH A LOT OF MIDDLE AMERICANS AS BEING EXTREME I ALSO THINK THE PRESIDENT WAS VERY EFFECTIVE WAY SPOKE DIRECTLY TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY BY THE WAY OUR COLLEAGUE KRISTEN WELKER DID VERY WELL TONIGHT IN MAINTAINING PACE AND QUESTIONS THEY SHOULD KIND OF JOB INDICATED MARK MEADOWS YESTERDAY SHE WOULD DO JUST THAT SHE HAD REMARKABLE IS SHIPPING ITS VERY DIFFICULT THING TO DO DO BELIEVE THOUGH HE MADE SOME GROUND WITH AMERICAN COMMUNITY AND THE JOE BIDEN TRIPPED BY CHRISTIANS ON THE CRIME BILL ON THE SUPER PREDATOR STOP. FINALLY ALTHOUGH I WAS LISTENING FOR A LAPTOP AND I HEARD THE VICE PRESIDENT OPENED THE DOOR DOING EXAMINATION DID NOT DOMINATE THE WAY I THOUGHT IT WOULD THIS WAS JUST A VERY SOLID SUBSTANTIVE DEBATE IN WHICH PEOPLE VERY CHANGE THEIR MIND ALL OF WHOM HAD THEIR BIAS CONFIRMATION SAID ONE WAY OR THE THAT'S VERY TWENTY-TWENTY AMERICA HERE. >> WE'LL TAKE QUICK BREAK AND BE BACK WITH MORE REACTION TO TONIGHT'S DEBATE AND WHAT IT MEANS DONALD TRUMP AND JOE BIDEN NOW RACE TO THE FINISH LINE. ♪ >> HAS TAKEN US HERE THROUGH A CAMPAIGN OF UNEXPECTED TWISTS AND TURNS FROM A GLOBAL PANDEMIC AND TO SEVERAL ARRESTS. ♪ TO AN INCUMBENT PRESIDENT DIAGNOSED WITH THE CORONAVIRUS WITH THE ELECTION OF OUR LIFETIMES UPON AND BRINGS MORE ♪ SURPRISE US. WE'LL BE WITH YOU EVERY STEP OF THE WAY WE'RE AT THIS TREE TAKES US. >> YOU GOT TO GET A FOUR-YEAR DEGREE BUT FOR YOU TO BE A SUPER EXPENSIVE WE HAVE CREATED A SYSTEM WHERE THE TICKET TO THE MIDDLE CLASS IS A THING THAT MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES HAVE TO STRESS ABOUT AND BORROW FOR AND PATCHED TOGETHER. >> WHY IS THIS HAPPENING WITH CHRIS HAYES SUBSCRIBE NOW. SO BREAKING NEWS IN OUR CHANGING WORLD. >> MORNING WELCOME TO TODAY, WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US. ♪ ♪ FACE OF AMERICA'S REOPENING WHAT ISSUES SHOULD BE IN PLACE. ♪ ♪ TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. ♪ A SIMPLE THING MAYBE AFTER ALL OF PLAYER PHYSICALLY TOGETHER WE ARE TOGETHER THAT'S WHAT. ♪ >> TED LINES CAN BE HARD TO UNDERSTAND A LOT OF KIDS HAVE QUESTIONS SO WE STARTED THE NEWSCAST FOR THEM WE HOPE YOUR ♪ >> FAMILY WATCH NIGHTLY NEWS KIDS EDITION. >> WATCH WHAT THEY DO NOT WHAT THEY SAY. ♪ >> PROTESTS BROKE OUT CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC THE STORY. >> EMERGENCY APPROVAL TO TREAT COVID-19 PLASMA, MANY QUESTIONS REMAIN ABOUT HOW WELL IT WORKS FROM EVERY ANGLE HOW MUCH OF THE INCREASED TENSION WAS DUE TO THE MILITIAS CAME HERE ON THE GROUND DEADLY WESTERN WILDFIRES, CALIFORNIA ENTIRE COMMUNITIES WERE ALSO WIPED OFF THE MAP AND IN DEATH ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS IS INDOOR AIR QUALITY WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ♪ >> ADDRESS THEM NBC NIGHTLY NEWS WITH LESTER HOLT. >> THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE THE STATE CONTINUES TO STRUGGLE TO EXPAND ITS TESTING CAPABILITIES. ♪ >> THEY NEED TO COME OUT IN FULL FORCE AND SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE NOT GETTING THAT THE COURTS FROM POLICE. ♪ ELECTION DAY COMING UP AGAINST THE BACK DROP OUT OF VOTERS SAFE AMID A PANDEMIC. ♪ >> THE MOMENT THAT ♪ >> REALLY UNDERSTAND WHO WE ARE WHO WE SAY WE ARE IS RIGHT HERE AT OUR FEET. >> THE SURGE IN CORONAVIRUS INFECTION DEVELOP AND SO ON SEVERAL FRONTS STORY TONIGHT THE U.S. SHATTERING THE RECORD FOR MOST COVID CASES IN A SINGLE DAY FROM THE ANGLE YOU LOOK CONCERNED THAT THE KIDS WE'VE BEEN TOLD ARE THE HOME CAN DEFINITELY WON'T BE ABLE TO CATCH ON THE GROUND YOU HAVE FAITH THAT THIS IS GOING TO BRING ABOUT CHANGE SAID WE'RE BACK WITH OUR COVERAGE OF THE FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE I WANT TO BRING IN NBC CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT HALLIE JACKSON WHO WAS INSIDE THE DEBATE HALL HALEIGH GIVE US A SENSE OF WHAT IT WAS LIKE THE MOOD. >> INSIDE THE ROOM. >> I FELT VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE IN PREVIOUS DEBATE IN CLEVELAND LESTER WHEN THE AIR ALMOST CRACKLED WITH THE TENSION AS PRESIDENT TRUMP REPEATEDLY OBVIOUSLY INTERRUPTED JOE BIDEN IT'S SO UNCOMFORTABLE IN THE ROOM THERE WAS NOT ANY OF THAT HERE TONIGHT, THEY SAID OUR VANTAGE POINT JUST ABOVE THE AUDIENCE YOU CAN SEE PEOPLE STARTING TO FILE OUT AS THE CANDIDATES HAVE LEFT THE STAGE HERE IN NASHVILLE. I WILL TELL YOU THAT BOTH CANDIDATES BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE RULE ENFORCEMENT FOR THE DEBATE COMMISSION LIKE OBVIOUSLY THAT MUTING OF THE MICROPHONE. SO LET'S BE CLEAR. THERE WAS NEVER A MUTE BUTTON IT'S NOT AS THOUGH SOMEBODY FROM THE COMMISSION OF DEBATES WAS WAS PRESSING A BUTTON TO MUTE WILL IT WAS THOSE FIRST 2 MINUTES OF EACH SEGMENT, BUT THE CANDIDATES HAVE THAT UNINTERRUPTED TIME IS CHRISTIAN SO ABLY POINTED OUT OF HER MODERATION OF THAT. SO YOU GOT A CHANCE TO HEAR THE CANDIDATE SPEAK THERE ARE SOME ISSUES ALREADY AND I THINK WE'LL BE DRIVING SOME OF THE DISCUSSION OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS SPECIFICALLY ON POLICY WHICH IS FRANKLY WHAT THESE DEBATES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT AND SUPPOSED TO BE FOCUSING ON ANYWAY SO FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THERE WILL BE QUESTIONS ABOUT FOR EXAMPLE, HIS IMMIGRATION STANCE WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE MIGRANT CHILDREN SEPARATED FROM THEIR PARENTS THE PRESIDENT SAID THEY ARE WORKING ON A PLAN, BUT HE REVEALED NO SPECIFICS OF IT FOR BIDEN FOR EXAMPLE THERE WILL BE SOME QUESTIONS PERHAPS ON HEALTH CARE AND WHAT HE DESCRIBED AS BIDEN CARE AND THE PUBLIC OPTION AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU MAY HEAR REPUBLICANS AND HIS CRITICS SEIZE ON AS WELL BIDEN ONE OF THE STRONGER MOMENTS THAT HIS CAMPAIGN HIS ALLIES AND ADVISERS ARE TALKING ABOUT CAME EARLY IN THE NIGHT ON THE CORONAVIRUS ISSUE PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID THAT WE'RE LEARNING TO LIVE WITH THE PANDEMIC LEARNING TO LIVE WITH THE VIRUS AND BIDEN FORCEFULLY RESPONDED THAT IN PEOPLE ARE LEARNING TO DIE FROM IT AND LEARNING TO LIVE WITH THE DEATHS OF LOVED ONES PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR HIS PART YOU'VE HEARD TO SHOOT TALK ABOUT IT I'VE HEARD THIS AND I'VE SEEN THIS FROM THE PRESIDENT'S ALLIES AND ADVISERS ALREADY THE MOMENT ON THE OIL INDUSTRY IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL BE HEARING A LOT ABOUT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. I CAN TELL YOU BASED ON A CONVERSATION I JUST HAD WITH A SENIOR ADVISER TO THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN. THEY ARE THRILLED WITH THE PRESIDENT'S PERFORMANCE PERHAPS UNSURPRISINGLY THEY FELT LIKE HE DREW CONTRASTS WITH JOE BIDEN AS A CAREER POLITICIAN LESSER ALL RIGHT KELLY, THANKS AND LET'S BRING IN NBC POLITICAL ANALYST AND FORMER DEMOCRATIC SENATOR CLAIRE MCCASKILL ALONG WITH RICH LOWRY EDITOR OF THE CONSERVATIVE NATIONAL REVIEW, LET ME START WITH YOU SENATOR MCCASKILL I MEAN I THINK THE CONSENSUS IS BOTH CANDIDATES. >> HAD A GOOD NIGHT DO YOU THINK THIS TIGHTENS UP THE RACE. >> I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT SURE IT CHANGES THE RACE MUCH I MEAN TRUE TRUMP WAS NOT ATTRACTING WRECK TONIGHT, BUT HE STILL LIED A LOT. MANY MADE UP A LOT OF STUFF AND THAT WILL CONTINUE TO COME OUT AND THE ONE THING JOE BIDEN DID. I MEAN TRUMP IS REALLY NEVER LEARN HOW TO REACH OUT TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T LOVE IT. BIDEN CONTINUALLY MADE ABOUT AMERICA'S FAMILIES AND MADE IT ABOUT AMERICA INSTEAD OF RED STATES AND BLUE STATES EVERY TIME, TRUMP TRIED TO SAY WHAT SIR. THE DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR A DEMOCRATIC STATE FINALLY BRING IT BACK TO SAY YOU KNOW THIS IS ONE COUNTRY WE NEED A PRESIDENT WHO WILL TRY TO REPRESENT EVERYBODY AND UNITE EVERYBODY AND I THINK IT SPEAKS TO THOSE WOMEN IN THE SUBURBS MUCH MORE STRONGLY THAN SOME OF TRUMP'S FEW NO ATTACK ON JOE BIDEN'S FAMILY WHAT ABOUT THAT ISSUE OF OIL INDUSTRY THOUGH SENATOR MCCASKILL I MEAN HERE'S A AT THIS CAMPAIGN SOME THINK WILL BE DECIDED IN PLACES LIKE. >> PENNSYLVANIA, THE INDIA'S INDUSTRIAL MIDWEST WAS THAT A MAJOR ERROR ON THE PART OF JOE BIDEN. >> POLICE IN TRANSITION AND I THINK ANYBODY WHO'S ACTUALLY STUDYING CLIMATE KNOWS THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THE PLANET IS GOING TO HAVE TO DO. AND I THINK HE WAS VERY CLEAR ABOUT FRACKING THAT HE BELIEVES THAT WE CAN CAPTURE THE EMISSIONS AND FRACKING CAN CONTINUE WHICH IS IMPORTANT IN PENNSYLVANIA. BUT YOU KNOW JOE BIDEN IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF JOE BIDEN BEING HONEST WHICH IS FRANKLY JUST NOT TRUMP'S REPERTOIRE. >> AND RICH WHAT DO YOU WILLIS TOLD THE NUMBERS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. >> PROBABLY NOT RADICALLY TRUMP OBVIOUSLY MUCH BETTER THAN THE FIRST DEBATE. MAYBE A REASON FOR SOME REPUBLICANS WHO HAVE DOUBTS ABOUT HIM TO COME HOME. I THINK THE SEAMY HAMMERED. THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT THAT JOE BIDEN'S BEEN IN WASHINGTON FOREVER. AND IT'S ALL TALK NO ACTION I THINK IS POTENTIALLY VERY POWERFUL THEME. BUT BIDEN MOST OF THE NIGHT WAS PRETTY SHARP AND PRETTY POINTED MAY BE A LITTLE OVERLY CANNED BUT I DO THINK TOWARDS THE END HE BEGAN TO FADE THEY JUST LOOKED A LITTLE TIRED AND THEN DID GIVE THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN A GIFT THEY CAN HEAR A LOT ABOUT COMING DAYS AND SAYING HE'S GOING TO PHASE OUT. THE OIL INDUSTRY WHICH MAY BE IN HIS WRITTEN PLAN THIS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT HEARING IT FROM HIS OWN MOUTH IN FRONT OF 10'S OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE SINCE I SENATOR MCCASKILL ABOUT THAT LET ME ASK YOU RICH WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SUBURBAN WOMEN IN PARTICULAR BEING KEY IN THIS RACE THAT MOMENT WHERE THE PRESIDENT WAS ASKED ABOUT THE SEPARATION POLICY IN THESE 500 CHILDREN. >> WHO HAVE WE'LL KNOW KIDS THAT THEIR PARENTS CANNOT BE FOUND BY THE GOVERNMENT AND THE PRESIDENT SAID WHILE THEY ARE VERY WELL TAKEN CARE OF IS THAT GOING TO COME BACK TO BITE HIM. >> IT'S IT'S WHAT IS ONE OF THE ISSUES TOGETHER WITH COVID TOGETHER WITH HEALTH CARE THAT HE IS JUST INHERENTLY ON DEFENSE ON THEY'RE JUST NOT A GOOD EXPLANATION OF IT. NOW I THINK AND THE REST OF THE IMMIGRATION DISCUSSION, HE SCORED SOME POINTS. HE'S RIGHT ABOUT CATCH RELEASE WHICH BASICALLY PEOPLE COME IN THE COUNTRY AND THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO SHOW UP FOR PROCEEDING SUBSEQUENTLY AND IT MIGHT SHOW UP FOR SOME PROCEEDINGS BUT ALMOST NONE THEM ACTUALLY SHOW UP FOR THEIR DEPORTATION PROCEEDINGS TO GET ON A BUS OR PLANE TO BE SENT HOME BECAUSE NO ONE'S THAT FOOLISH. SO THAT'S BEEN A TRUMP POLICY THAT OBAMA I THINK IS A CERTIFIED WRONG VALLEY I CAN SEE SENATOR MCCASKILL SHAKING YOUR HEAD, BUT YOU GUYS DON'T GET TO DEBATE TONIGHT WE'VE GOT TO GET A BREAK IN OKAY AND WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. >> HAS TAKEN US HERE THROUGH A CAMPAIGN OF UNEXPECTED TWISTS AND TURNS FROM A GLOBAL PANDEMIC ♪ AND TO SEVERAL ARRESTS. TO AN INCUMBENT PRESIDENT DIAGNOSED WITH THE CORONAVIRUS WITH THE ELECTION OF OUR ♪ LIFETIMES UPON AND BRINGS MORE SURPRISE US. WE'LL BE WITH YOU EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. ♪ HISTORY ♪ TAKES US. >> YOU GOT TO GET A FOUR-YEAR FOR YOU TO BE A SUPER EXPENSIVE WE HAVE CREATED A SYSTEM WHERE THE TICKET TO THE MIDDLE CLASS IS A THING THAT MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES HAVE TO STRESS ABOUT AND BORROW FOR AND PATCHED TOGETHER. >> WHY IS THIS HAPPENING WITH CHRIS HAYES SUBSCRIBE NOW. SO BREAKING NEWS IN OUR CHANGING WORLD. ♪ ♪ >> MORNING WELCOME TO TODAY, WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US. ♪ THE NEXT PHASE OF AMERICA'S REOPENING WHAT MISSIONS ♪ SHOULD BE IN PLACE. TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF AND TAKE CARE SIMPLE THING MAYBE AFTER ALL OF BUT OKAY, YEAH PLAYER PHYSICALLY TOGETHER WE ARE TOGETHER THAT'S WHAT. ♪ >> HEADLINES CAN BE HARD TO UNDERSTAND A LOT OF KIDS HAVE QUESTIONS SO WE STARTED THE NEWSCAST ♪ >> FOR THEM WE HOPE YOUR FAMILY WATCH NIGHTLY NEWS KIDS EDITION. >> WATCH WHAT THEY DO NOT WHAT THEY SAY. ♪ >> PROTESTS BROKE OUT CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC THE STORY. >> EMERGENCY APPROVAL TO TREAT COVID-19 PLASMA, MANY QUESTIONS REMAIN ABOUT HOW WELL IT WORKS FROM EVERY ANGLE HOW MUCH OF THE INCREASED TENSION WAS DUE TO THE MILITIAS CAME HERE ON THE GROUND DEADLY WESTERN WILDFIRES, CALIFORNIA ENTIRE COMMUNITIES WERE ALSO WIPED OFF THE MAP AND THEN DEATH ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS IS INDOOR AIR QUALITY WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ADDRESS ♪ NBC NIGHTLY NEWS WITH LESTER HOLT. >> EARLY IN PERSON OR ON ELECTION DAY EACH STATE HAS ITS OWN SET OF RULES THE WAY WE CAST OUR YES, IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO FIGURE IT >> TAKE 15 MINUTES PLAYING WE WERE OUT THERE. >> AND SOME PLACES THE POLLS ARE ALREADY OPEN MAKE SURE YOUR VOICE IS HER PLAN YOUR VOTE AND YOUR VOTE PLAN YOUR VOTES. ♪ >> IT'S GOING TO CONCLUDE OUR COVERAGE. YEAH THAT'S THE ROOM WHERE IT HAPPENED. FINAL DEBATE OF THE 2020 CAMPAIGN NOW THE RACE IS ON TO ELECTION DAY ELECTION NOW JUST 12 DAYS AWAY IT WILL BE A SPRINT TO THE FINISH FOR BOTH CANDIDATES GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE TOMORROW MORNING BRIGHT AND EARLY ON THE TODAY SHOW ALL DAY ON MSNBC AND NBC NEWS DOT COM AND TOMORROW NIGHT AND THIS IS MY FAVORITE SHOW NBC NIGHTLY NEWS WITH LESTER HOLT NOT JUST THE TIP OF THAT STRAIGHT FOR ALL OF US HERE AT NBC NEWS. ♪ THANK YOU FOR JOINING US EVERYONE HAVE A GOOD NIGHT IN USE. >> TODAY'S HEADLINES CAN BE HARD TO UNDERSTAND A LOT OF KIDS HAVE QUESTIONS SO WE STARTED THE NEWSCAST FOR THEM WE HOPE YOUR FAMILY WATCH NIGHTLY NEWS KIDS EDITION. ♪ >> YOU GOT TO GET A FOUR-YEAR FOR YOU TO BE A SUPER EXPENSIVE WE HAVE CREATED A SYSTEM WHERE THE TICKET TO THE MIDDLE CLASS IS A THING THAT MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES HAVE TO STRESS ABOUT AND BORROW FOR AND PATCHED TOGETHER. ♪ >> WHY IS THIS HAPPENING WITH CHRIS HAYES SUBSCRIBE NOW. >> NEWS IN OUR CHANGING WORLD. ♪ ♪ PROTESTS BROKE OUT CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC THE STORY. EMERGENCY APPROVAL TO TREAT COVID-19 PLASMA, MANY QUESTIONS REMAIN ABOUT HOW WELL IT WORKS FROM EVERY ANGLE HOW MUCH OF THE INCREASED TENSION WAS DUE TO THE MILITIAS THAT CAME HERE ON THE GROUND DEADLY WESTERN WILDFIRES, CALIFORNIA ENTIRE COMMUNITIES WERE ALSO WIPED OFF THE MAP AND IN DEATH ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS IS INDOOR AIR QUALITY WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ADDRESS NBC NIGHTLY NEWS WITH LESTER HOLT. ♪ >> HAS TAKEN US HERE THROUGH A CAMPAIGN OF UNEXPECTED TWISTS AND TURNS FROM A GLOBAL PANDEMIC AND TO SEVERAL ARRESTS. ♪ TO AN INCUMBENT PRESIDENT DIAGNOSED WITH THE CORONAVIRUS WITH THE ELECTION OF OUR LIFETIMES UPON TO BRING SOME ♪ MORE SURPRISES. WE'LL BE WITH YOU EVERY STEP OF THE WAY WE'RE AT THIS TREE TAKES US. ♪ >> ABC NEWS THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE FEWER LESTER HOLT AND SAVANNAH GUTHRIE. >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE WELCOME TO OUR COVERAGE OF THE SECOND AND FINAL 2020 PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE REPUBLICAN INCUMBENT PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP AND HIS DEMOCRATIC CHALLENGER FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN ABOUT