Notre Dame football vs. NIU Huskies postgame reaction show | Irish lose a STUNNER 16-14

hey go Irish I don't really know what to say oh my God hey hey this is easy to talk about man this is this is the easiest show we've ever done so I mean what do you mean what the hell are you talking about Tim Mike there's tons to talk about so just kick it off there's plenty I mean Notre Dame's the fifth ranked team in the country didn't show up I mean this was Marshall 2.0 every single play felt like you're watching Marshall so it's the same thing I mean we're in year three we're in year three Freeman will get you extremely hyped for the big games zero Focus for the little ones I mean we've been seeing this for three years so ain't no way that just happened oh it it happened when you don't show up and you don't play with energy some guys did some guys play their butts off today but you just don't make plays and I mean what can you do so hey first off kudos to NIU how about how about how about all the Twitter the you know the the Twitter foes who mocked that guy and trolled that guy when he said hey you know we we put on our pants just like Notre Dame the same way yeah you sure do buddy kudos to you because he did it man he I mean I mean this is literally the same type of thing pass games atrocious Mike there's so many freaking times I'm like poor guy's trying to throw how many times you hear Jason Garrett's like protection's good no one's open same thing against Marshall it's um hey you can still go to the playoffs right are we gonna be keep hearing this 11 and one come on this team's not going 11 and one it's like it's unless they just find a way to Rally this is embarrassing it's h pretty pathetic but it also shows how hard it is to go undefeated everyone figured undefeated I mentioned that the other night right there's only five programs have gone undefeated three times which Notre Dame has done since 2012 so it just shows how hard it is to do and um it's um I know I I cut in as you were starting but I'm just like I'm I'm numb it's kind of interesting yeah exactly death taxes Notre Dame struggling versus unranked teams this is this is unreal so Brian Kelly won what 54 57 games in a row against unranked team team that went out game two under Freeman and obviously is's continuing now so his uh actually his last two losses are against unranked teams Clemson and and and NIU were both unranked and oh I I don't I don't even know what to say I don't know how I'm gonna get through this show Tim oh I get through it I'm I get through it it's not it's not on us Mike it's not on us we did throw the worst Tim that interception yeah that was horrid Horrid he underthrew him by maybe 15 yards it's a walk Walking TouchDown for Chris Mitchell and he throws a line drive like he's hitting a Whipple ball I I think he just when the ball left his hands you know what my first thought was okay he can throw a deep ball like the ball looked great touchdown the ball looked great but when he released it yeah Mitchell was blowing bu him um the guy the DB stopped to come back how do you not how can you not throw a pass 30 yards in the air so I who would have thought Drew Pine could throw farther than Riley Leonard I guess on a go route um I I guess now we know why we see five yard hitches every other play so there's one play Notre Dame sent four guys out I think it was God I I'll have to check but it's like third and eight four guys go out in the pass route three out of the four run routes less than eight yards I'm like is is this the pass offense that Den Brock's bringing um just hey it's um whatever the comments are man keep them coming we'll chat like crazy my favorite quote I texted Mike gouby and it's like nothing like and I texted you as well nothing like Al golden preaching we don't need to stop the run what it's like yeah you do how about that how about Marshall ran what for 200 yards against that D and now what whatever they got today that guy I mean what they have 190 total felt like 350 felt like every time they needed four yards they got seven and um yeah what yeah they're it's it's we could say whatever we want it's year three if you're losing these games what what in the world going on this seriously last week or as big as last week was dude you have an entire season Freeman we heard it this week and I'm sure haa and Soo will talk about it and all the me Notre day media guys it's like Freeman preaches we only get 12 op you know we only get 12 guarantees how many times do we hear that from that guy so this is one of those guarantees the home opener and this is what you show the home opener hey the fans booing in that Den Brock and what the offense did the end this first half they deserve it so and then um whatever yeah my wife just asked me why my wife is people know he been following us you know she's a Notre Dame aot starting three thank you for the Super Chat my friend and um she say how's the game going I was like I'm literally down in the basement I was like Hey opening drive touchdown what a thing of beauty Riley Leonard basically running Wildcat throwing what he have all the yards were basically him on that opening drive opening drive third quarter go right down the field touchdown punt Fest in between with the two interceptions from Leonard most expensive ocdc you got it buddy that's literally on my one of my sticky notes was the NIU coaches just ran circles around Notre Dame today my my wife texts me saying yikes sending Good Vibes for your show she she loves watching the games with me and uh that one was so Justin Michael uh appreciate the Super Chat back Action Baby greetings from Germany you stayed up late for uh a horrible horrible game Michael um okay hey Kudo hey Kudos dep Penn State for beating a Mac team today so how about that second and one six minutes left I I mean I don't hate the idea of taking a shot here I mean tremendous prote protction yeah second and one you're that like I don't know the mechanics here U sorry for for podcast audience we're looking at a play of Leonard's pick um kik's here he kind of throws while stepping into his front foot like I I don't I don't but he just gets that all all wrong I don't understand it's like what did you were you running a 20 yard stop route what do you it's like it's a deep go route to Mitchell a post throw the post you throw it as high and just over everybody it's it's either a touchdown or the ball goes out of bounds it's third and one come back you run QB power kill clock and March down the field score a touchdown and that that that's literally one of the worst interceptions I've ever seen at Notre Dame stadium that is atrocious that was bad that was just bad bad football but that's just one play of many in this game uh by the way all the Notre you know the trolls are going to be out baby get ready and they and they can do whatever the hell they want after that performance so that's the way I look at it all right so it's gonna be bad so get ready Notre Dame fans get ready all right let me read a couple super chats uh oh here's a tweet from Hayes faucet NIU collects 1.4 million from Notre Dame and lands their first top 10 win in program history congrats the entire wall is gonna be just pictures from this Notre Dame game now in their football offices just as Marshall is Irish fans I am really at a loss for words this is going to be a difficult show to do but I would appreciate if you still hit the thumbs up um not not not for that that performance but um just just for us a blue and gold and uh please uh subscribe to the channel if you are new here for uh to get some more some more noted in content if you can stomach it we might get a surprise guest um to join us as well and I'm sure you guys can guess who it will be Ethan uh with the $ Five Doll Super Chat um appreciate you Ethan greatest ever MD $20 um stop making excuses for Freeman and uh rule 34 artist says how I'd expect a basketball player to throw the ball Ethan um great MD appreciate appreciate the Super Chat guys um you're get excuses for me that from that super chat this is no this this is embarrassing it's pathetic like I don't I don't even know like but it's the story of the last 30 years outside you know what Tim message boore Geniuses tweeted during the game oh boy and they used they did took a screenshot of one of my board posts it was during the second quarter you know what I said stop top scheduling Mac teams Notre Dame is terrible against the Mac this game Toledo Ball State am I forgetting any I mean what the Tim Tim Tim they just beat A&M on the road by 10 points and they came back and then they lose to and and you know what Tim I was writing that you I I do a a game day Central thing uh that that at 6:00 in the morning Eastern time it's like you know some game day information some NIU players to watch and of course for me I'm the recruiting guy blue and gold but I still do this article I Don't Know Jack you know jack about the other team most of the times so Jack soble and Tyler HCA they always will send me hey here's Five Guys to write about so I'm doing research on these guys and as I was writing about these five players to watch for NIU I was like like damn these are all old play like class of 2021 class of 2020 these guys been around forever and I was like d I'm kind of n a they 16 dudes watch list M I was like d ni's actually got some guys here doesn't mean they're in my wildest dreams could not have imagined I was like nervous that maybe Notre Dame doesn't cover and we're g GNA get an angry thing on you know angry chat but never in my wildest dreams could I have imagine that Notre Dame would have lost this football game I I'm man I'm gonna yeah we gota we gotta pop a new bottle of whiskey tonight man down my people that all the people that kind of mocked me for like oh Tim's stressing o line starts ni's had 119 coming into today 11 19 how about every I I love that stat where every single one of those offensive lineman from Wisconsin just a bunch of short stubby guys running power o right up your ass snap after snap whenever whenever they needed yard they got it how about how about Duce Knight's options here Notre Dame or Auburn I mean Auburn lost at Cal did at home at Cal Auburn lost Cal oh I haven't watch I just saw Penn State almost you know I know they were struggling they came back to win um I watched GRE snaps of Texas I mean you I mean Michigan doesn't have a quarterback so it's not even a football game so um they're playing some walkon who hasn't played High School football in five years but um yeah I mean this is obviously tailor made for Notre Dame everything we've talked about setting up this schedule is cupcake Ville it's cupcake Ville if you show up and do your job but Notre Dame did not do their job they let NIU Hammer them for 200 almost 200 yards rushing by the way how about their quarterback is that the most accurate dude I've ever seen I mean that dude threw dimes into just the smallest windows on Earth you know but um I know how golden loves his past D but you know you give up a 90 that 90 yard or 80 yard or whatever it was was just a thread but I you know some of my notes real quick from the you know first quarter was just like I thought Notre Dame was just like being too cute they they ran a 62 six D lineman on the line of scrimmage they ran a 62 a 44 I saw a 34 with three down guys and two standup out outside with KVA one of those two inside then they're a nickel I don't think I don't think they ever went to a dime today there was never hell they never had long distance outside of a couple times but they really didn't go to it um I I thought they got too cute early trying to mix and match and do all this stuff defensively it's like man just play your base five just play your base and and go win and they couldn't even play their base and win which is uh you know it's just kind of pathetic you know yeah I like I want to take a step back and think about the big picture of this game Tim because this is like an all-time worst loss for the Irish right like this this this has got to be it's got to be up there Tim considering your schedule right like this is Notre Dame's chance to like you beat A&M your schedule is easy and you know what Tim I talked all off seon about about this schedule might be easy but we've seen Notre Dame crap the bed in some of these games but before you move on it is year freaking three what has Marcus Freeman learned what has he learned exactly we saw Notre Dame mess the bed as you say so it's year three all this study and all the analytics he had the little you know 17-year-old behind him you saw what the paper always reading out the analytics notes if you saw that during the game a little like a little binder with five sheets of paper he kept telling them the the data you know okay great you know what else have you learned it's about and there's going to be ups and downs we always talk about the Val you know the peaks in The Valleys of a football season and stuff like that you know when you upsets happen yes we all know that upsets happen but when you're the fifth rank team it's only game freaking two it's the home opener not like they beat A&M at home last week in a crazy crowd and then they're taking a a a break off today hold on a second hold on uh super chats T sper won't happen Freeman should not be the head coach next year unacceptable performances he past three years his seat should be heating up oh man unfreaking believable game Seth Griffin says if these quarterbacks are who we are getting from the portal it is time to develop one you can't tell we don't have a better quarterback than Leonard on the roster um he is not the quarterback we need Seth Griffin appreciate the 10 we're certainly going to have the quarterback discussion here because that was one of the worst quarterback you all good Tim oh I'm good it was my daughter coming in my my daughter ran faster than some of the plays today so that was pretty good so 1993 BC was alltime worst loss the championship was ours yeah um Al hey I'll jump in right now I'll talk about some of the losses yeah BC but BC was ranked and BC had Mojo because Notre Dame Tim I'm gonna I'm going to cut you off there we're going to bring in ghoul's beat oh one of his losses is on the list too into where Mike what what's what are your thoughts right now man why can't I be a Utah fan that's what I'm thinking hey nine and three gets to some good bowl games every now and then compete for a you know conference title you're right I yeah I just I'm I'm absolutely stunned I'm absolutely stunned I didn't I didn't think Notre Dame would come anywhere close to covering but it's just yet another weird day game loss to a team you have no business losing to under Freeman but those Day games are tough man they're tough what do you attribute this loss to Mike like what is like what are the biggest things well Tim and I love to go back and forth on Golden's defense right and it's like you give up so much and Tim there's times like in that A&M game and it doesn't look like a bust where we will leave guys uncovered in the passing game because it's like we know the rush is gonna get home right you can see it when you watch l22 film but like defensively we can't stop the run same last that's not really an eort thing there's a little bit of technique Tim you could talk about but just generally speaking it's like we are so vulnerable to the run and if a no NIU coaching staff with a with a senior Laden team like they had can just jump into that film and just like it doesn't take a rocket science him to see I mean you could you could we will give you four yards every snap in the Run game just take it I think I texted you on Monday and I said why didn't A&M just run the ball 40 times yep you did I me seriously they could have just ran the ball like Mad Dogs and they wanted to chuck it all over the place so not to say you know A&M wins the game but they would have but there was gashes their heck their one their one touchdown Drive they never threw the ball so when you go back to that game I think that's exactly with the NIU guys when you hear they have 18 starters coming back 30s something seniors on the team on that one graphic you got all these guys returning you know the old line almost 12 when starts it you know these it it all makes sense that that guy knows that that old coaching staffs knows we're on four wides against these guys y they had 12 Personnel 13 they had wild cat wild whenever you go wild cat it's automatic unbalance because you have an extra guy you have to fit against and Notre Dame is not good at fitting it they're just not even a couple that plays last week against A&M where there was some I mean Owen took some bad angles even today not the single out guys or whatever but it's just like it's run fits man there's there there's so many gaps and and there's a great NIU play on like a third and two where they got it they goty plls whenever you pull a guy there's an extra Gap automatically Notre Dame was like two guys short in the Run game just by gaps fits with DBS on the field and it's it's so noticeable but you know you know what it is too to answer kind of to answer your question singer like what happened what did you see and again I'm I'm gen like genuinely stunned like I'm stunned and really disappointed but it's like NIU didn't overthink it no to your point Tim you're like we got a a great we got an NFL Talent at running back potentially you got a A bunch of senior guys we've been watching Golden's film and it's just like okay we're not going to overthink it we're just going to run the ball we're going to play a little bit of bully ball and that did not get cute and it's just like we we absolutely get queued on defense and maybe it's just the old school old school in US Tim but it's like as a as a defense I'm always taught I was brought up it's like you gotta stop the run and then we build off of that like that's the foundation of your defense and then offensively speaking oh it's it's it's the Mike it give me 12 seconds it's the same thing as always no one gets open and it's just scatterbrain type of a pass attack they can't throw Riley Leonard is shown in two games he can't throw a past 20 freaking yards Drew pin's got a stronger arm than Riley Leonard he has shown in two games he cannot throw a deep ball well I shouldn't say can't because he hit freaking Jaden greous who didn't make the play that was for 30 yards but there is zero vertical threat zero it is a sad jump in no it is true and he had he had time in this game unlike the A&M game he had time and it's like yeah where is the separation who's getting open and then beyond that back to the getting cute thing Jeremiah love is like one of our top two or three players in the team I don't care what anybody says like in terms of god-given talent and all this he makes that amazing Sports Center top 10 run he gets one touch the rest of the game so it's like what are we doing don't overthink it you know it's like oh it's more important to get anas Williams in as your third down back as a true freshman that it is to just give like give the ball to your best player on offense it's like all of the rotation and such it's like some of the stuff is mind Bing but no Riley did not look good and said this all off season he's an athlete playing quarterback he still a lot of work to do in terms of the Polish at the position yeah he looked like gou hot garbage yes sir all right between Leonard looking like hot garbage like you just said receivers not getting open Den Brock like I'm curious for your take on the offensive play calling like where do you if you have a pie chart here like where do you put the most blame for that offensive performance well Tim helped me with this and I've yet to see the all 22 I'll get the all 22 tomorrow morning break that down with Jared Clark oh my God is it Groundhogs Day it's like it's like we're back to the conversation Tim is anybody open yes they are no they aren't it's like okay well your boy's got the coaches film now I will give you a verdict 24 hours from now but it's just like what do you do Tim let me walk this out singer every offseason the wide receiver room gets hyped up every single offseason then fans go into the season optimistic and then it's like so when that pass game looks like ass the blame falls in the quarterback Andor the offensive round and round and round offensive coordinator that's how we go so it's like Tim and I are saying I gave that room a c dur you know for the preseason grade it's like so if nobody's open how do you call plays well you run the ball you run the ball but then I got a I got a ragtag group of young offensive linemen that are getting beat up and getting o like out intensified like you know they're getting they're getting Northern Illinois played harder so it's like what do you do and then by the way you don't have a Heisman Trophy winning quarterback and you don't have two first round picks at wide receiver so I do think that the den Brock hype was overhyped because again he doesn't have the same tools at his disposal that he did in LSU yeah so I don't know really know where to place the blame other than I guess then Brock because you got to go back to running the ball that you you have to because you don't have the talent outside save for Bo Collins Bo Collins is good and he's a dog he has juice and it's like you know Jaden great house was was was anointed this off season anointed it was like that was the one thing we felt great about was Jaden great house and just drops a beautiful ball so it's right there man it's right there yeah Bo Collins 45 yards receiving and he's your best guy I mean but but once again Bo I I don't know if he could beat anyone deep because I never really he's an underneath guy he competes for the ball he plays his ass off so just keep throwing 10 yard outs to him damn it because he's really freaking good at catching 10 yard stop routes he's he's really good but uh there there is absolutely Tim there's absolutely an element to our offense over the years where everything's a lot of stop routes everything stops everything hooks up you know look here look here it's because we don't have guys that can run themselves open we don't no no no we don't that's what we keep talking about fans keep saying we're idiots yet we're like they don't we keep saying this each and every year that's why we've been once again who is the dude that threatens a defensive coordinator nobody does again and we tried saying that all year long but we were told we're wrong and um it's the same stuff I I have no idea what people see during training camp when they get those videos or get the watch because it's but you know I I have no idea it'll happen it'll happen next off oh it's gonna happen next year because because there's because they're gonna lose five receivers the three transfers Thomas and KY are going to be gone they're seniors they won't come back for a fifth so that's five receivers are going to be gone they have who are they gonna replace them with Jerome Bettis Jr no so they're gonna go get some transfers next year so we're going to hear the same thing the transfer wide receivers Who the hell's the quarterback next year Riley Riley Leonard is a competitive son of a gun there's no doubt about that I was more you're right I just looked at the the play byplay Love only touched the ball one more time the the second the rest second half now they only had a few more drives but only one touch just feed the son of a gun I I was more Blown Away by them just not running QB QB runs more they ran this I mean that was so successful in the first half they didn't do it the second half just take it and go run Des run just real quick because it was a dog fight of a game they weren't going to ex explode by anyone so just put it in the hands of Riley Leonard and kind of like what NIU did and just run freaking wild cat down your throat and they didn't do that at all in the second half I was very surprised by that yeah well that break it begs the question first drive six design runs for Riley yes and it's like we talked about that on patreon with Jared like I you and I differ we have different opinion on quarterback design quarterback power you love it I I don't love it just because of the wear and tear you know on a on a a kid that's a quarterback's not built to take hits like a five 11 220 pound back right so Jared Jared says Jared says Tim in that game he's like I don't really like it either but in a big game when you need it when you got to pull rabbit out of the house and this wasn't a big game but it was a big moment to your point it's like yeah go back to what what we knew at least worked at a point in time in this game so either that and or give Jeremiah love the ball well that's why NIU did wildcat with that stud running back it's the same thing it's just quarterback taking the ball it's one extra blocker like on on the one touchdown run they had four Dudes out in front of Riley Leonard you had for you had Emil Wagner you had Cooper Flanigan pulling around because Eli rared in uh pin block great block by Billy Ralph and Ashton Craigs pulling four Dudes out there full on 1944 Frank Le single wing and you never saw that again the rest of the game according to this rushing play log for Riley his last rushing attempt was with 1155 in the second quarter so he ran the ball 11 times within the first what is that like 17 minutes 18 minutes of the game that's wild and then not again maybe maybe at that's you know when he fell he looked like he got hurt when he threw the ball backwards thank God that thing didn't get scooped up and scored what was that but um maybe he was a little beat up a little banged up and they're like oh you know that does that just go back to a cocky mindset well we're gonna beat these guys anyway but no you needed his ass to run and I mean this is just like Marshall Notre Dame's only in that Marshall game because Tyler Buckner ran the ball like crazy and as a single wi quarterback that's what kept them in that damn game and they had the lead in the fourth quarter same thing in this game what kept them in the game in the first half was Riley Leonard running the damn football so they really got away from that um as as as as Mike just showed us so yeah and you're right it's a young old line they're not physically empowering Billy shr's a man I can't wait to read what he really stood out a ton today just mauling people the other guys looked you know I'm gonna have to see but shr really stood out today and then Mike you know gouby when you when you you know here we are talking about run you know run defense but I thought Notre Dame had this freakish D line there's did they have how many tfls did they get today singer outside of what Osberry may had one and sne had a great tackle or three from the dline uh let's see I got Kingston and Howard cross combined for one Burnham had one trii had one Burnham yeah burnhams was a chase down from behind great play by Josh but none from the starters right butell played I thought another really good football game but Mills dude Mills and OB and cross and Obin cross you know I know he didn't practice a lot those were tons of reports in training camp Sor hammy oh he's a six-year guy will'll rest him he looks Rusty as molasses man and Riley Mills I mean you know gouby and I talked about this a week ago he literally looks like the same kid from 2021 he does he's the same player he's lost eight pounds okay but he's the same he is the same player as we've seen him for five years he's um I tweeted a live clip there's a snap Tim Riley Mills is unblocked I got you I want to pull it up okay but you can you can keep talking about it unblocked him and it's just like some of this stuff is like God this is going to sound terrible but like being good at football not lifting weights but like being good at football it's like okay I played enough snaps how long's he been here Tim he 10,000 career snaps it's like I'm close enough to the quarterback I'm gonna start to kind of change my trajectory to get ready to like grab somebody or make a play and Riley Mills just run he just like runs around standing straight up like he just runs past people like buddy you are unblocked oh it's like drop your weight get ready to like wrap up his legs like it's so bad it's so bad you know how do you not make this Play You're a a freak list two two years consecutively and like you just can't you're a captain fifth year you know probably be watch him Tim go be a third round draft pick or whatever you know it's just like you gotta like make plays and then there's the play like with Jaylen Sneed you know like he's just like he's got outside contain doesn't he I gotta watch the film but like it's okay like go make the tackle he had a bad game yeah and we talk about Fitz Tim Jay dobry can play football and he still looks a little confused God love the kid totally understandable but get him some more runs because he will insert on a run play too many times our linebackers just catch they just catch and then they fall off it's a 5 yard gain it's it it it it it makes me sick to watch it singer asked me that on I think Tuesday night maybe um you know who would I start and I said sne and Osberry they two fastest kids Bowen I I I want to be really nice but I don't know understand how he's the starting middle linebacker I mean I really don't he does not fit maybe it's just me I don't know he had one great hit well he should he's a freaking starting middle linebacker at Notre Dame you should be able to hit somebody once right and Phil I I I'm Blown Away by him starting two games in a row Kaiser I Kaiser if he fits once he's gonna not fit three others I mean that that's just what I see when I watch those guys the other guys are fast as hell let those guys they're just fast they are they're fast as hell Sneed is all over the place you know he whiffed though I got I charted two really bad missed tackles where he's right there for a a stuff or a tfl and he whipped but um o Osberry he had to have played the second most snaps behind Kaiser he was out there a ton he is little though how there's no way that dude weighs 220 pounds whatever He's listed at he looks doesn't he look like he weighs 195 pounds yeah he looks he honestly physically he looks like almost like a running back playing backer but I'll just say this if we talk about like a little bit of technique sorry Tim I cut you off go ahead no no go for it no I was just gonna say exactly with you what you said he's the dude knows it's going back to his high school film he would Wiggle from SE to Sea Gap and just find little holes and just go make plays especially when he blitzes and when they shoot him on run fits Kaiser you know they did the xcross or favorite xcross today gets picked up of course but Kaiser man Kaiser's the new Merit he just get he runs into guys this year if you're noticing so go for it yeah I just I I you Dre Drake Bowen's a very physical kid but I've always had questions about his stiffness and then like in particular in his range like his range and you'll see Tim you'll see in the film like you can run away from Drake Bowen but like back to Osberry in KVA super loose player like as small as as small as an Osberry is if it's a 64 65 inside 66 tackle or whatever like you can reduce like watch go watch Fred Warner play tomorrow it's like you know they you it's a technique to like slip around those blocks versus trying to catch him all the time but uh yeah that was a I mean that was a frustrating game and Tim it just feels like a broken record doesn't it Bud it feels like a broken record especially when we're talking about the offense is it the play caller is it the quarterback is it the o line is it the receiver it's it's like we're having the same conversations two three years running now and I until you can get a player that can like run himself open on the offensive side of the ball I I you know Den Brock's hands are tied to a degree but I think not playing love not going back to the quarterback run and like nut cutting time in this game that's you know that's absolutely coaching that's you're so right with the you know saying nut cutting you you can't lose this game so this was literally like trying to beat Alabama it's the same thing you you're it's a one-point game go win the game you had to win this game 1413 or 17713 or go score the interception was atrocious great house drops there's a field goal you know the the block before halftime holy moly well two blocks now obviously in this game it's hard on the last play 62 freaking yards for how embarrassing how embarrassing how the end of the way that that game Ed and then you got Freeman taking notes or whatever like at the very end he's like writing stuff down like the house is on fire and he's like taking notes uh boys let me let me jump in here real quick tons of Super Chat tonight really appreciate you guys um with the with all the super chats tonight obviously not gonna be able to address them like we usually do but popping up popping them up on the screen uh please hit the thumbs up of course on this video uh subscribe if you are new here there's a couple things that I want to give to like moving forward I know like we we we could talk about this game for hours upon hours but I do want to think like what do you change is it like Personnel wise schematically like what does Notre Dame now need to do moving forward to salvage I I don't want to say the p word uh but Salvage this season right after of your worst losses in school history what do they do I'll throw it to Tim first oh you I mean what I mean what do you do play good football today was a crowd I mean seriously Mike I mean what do you I mean what do you mean what do you do it's like you're there's no Waiver Wires you're not gonna just go cut somebody in free agent this is the football team you have so as someone who's watching these guys what the hell you been doing since January who who who is the go-to guy so they're going into this game Mike Den Brock and Marcus Freeman and these guys know they do not have a guy that could go deep they they how do you they know that we've seen it now in two games so there's nothing new that's gonna come it's Riley Leonard's gotta obviously complete some passes uh he oh shucks it's third and five sorry I threw it behind you like there's one once again great house is wide open over the middle of field he throws it his ass so like hit him in front he's running like gby talking that's one play he could have been catch and run there are no catch and run type of guy so you're gonna have to gr you know ground and pound Riley Leonard needs to probably run the ball more just to give you an extra hat in the box and then just find a way to get the ball I guess I mean if if we've seen anything after two games Bo Collins will compete so build a package around him competing whether it's 10 yard stops a quick post I mean he had hit a bounce pass to Chris Mitchell on a third and five freaking slant ball bounced to him so Collins needs to be the guy Mitch Evans obviously came back and looked solid um and then love you know love and price no running I don't think we saw a running back screen today so that's two games in a row we've only seen one I'm expecting more screens but um and then defense man you just got to stop the run I for as great as the A&M game was A&M got too cute and wanted to throw to beat Notre Dame is pretty easy you just keep doing the same damn thing you just play the Marshall game stack the Box No One's Gonna beat us outside we're gonna shoot safeties on on on run and then on defense make don't allow Al golden to play five and six DBS Al gold you know Notre Dame will not beat us playing three linebackers Notre Dame was in three linebackers 80 plus percent of the snaps today I think and then to add to that great job Tim being put on the spot but like specifically singer you know Riley talked about this during the offseason it's like he loves to just drift out to his right there's a couple formations cannot wait to watch the film but you've got was it tight trips or something to the field Tim so like you know to Riley's right is the short side of the field right we're into that boundary and it's like he just drifts away it's like all of his tools and all his weapons are out to his left and then he just inevitably rolls out drifts out to the right where he has a single receiver side right he he has no vision back to the field so I'd really like to work with Riley on like get into the pocket like step up into the pocket I earlier singer you were talking a little bit about his mechanics early in the show on the well I'm just saying like there's times where you I don't I'm no guru but like new age quarterbacks you know watch the Nebraska game tonight like you watch this Dylan rayola who's like a Patrick Mahomes clone like the the the the pockets are so condensed now that quarterbacks are like no longer do they you know step into that thing like a Drew bledo or a Troy Aman like they snap through their hips and Riley's doing like a lot of arm throws and stuff like it looks I mean there's still a lot of work you could put into him and yeah as far as the P game quick game screens again don't overthink it where are the screens um but yeah specifically with Riley stop drifting and like get in get up into the pocket and then the only other thing we show so many stop routes on film it's like eventually he had time today to throw where is a double move you know it'd be nice not to not to mention fa On's hurt too so I I mean he's one of your two or three best talents in the room at wide receiver and one of the with the highest level of compete but yeah and again I will Echo what Tim said on defensive side of the ball it's on film Tim you can shove it up our you know whereare defensively you just can't it's on film so it's like you've got to really spend time on inside run period and teaching the techniques of like getting off blocks or avoiding blocks like Jaden Ury puts on a clinic on how to do that just to jump off of that is as we heard all offseason oh we're going to see the spread Notre Dame's in doubles a ton they're in trips a ton they're in 11 personnel 99% of the time oh it's going to open up the Run game no it's not until you have a wide freaking receiver who can beat you so it's not that's all we heard and it's not no one respects it's it it is I me we're just talking in circles so you can do all the spreading out you want to do cover one cover zero all night long exactly it's it's this it's the same thing you know that's beat that's beaten Notre Dame and it's um it's it's it's frustrating this is why I'm gonna say it this is why Tommy ree went to 12 personnel and just said screw you we suck outside I have Michael Mayer Michael Mayer played wide receiver we he was he lined up outside as a wide receiver 90% of his snaps compared to inline tight end and that's what they did and they had to create running lanes and you create running Lanes with extra guys we just saw it by NIU NIU with extra guys in the Box create extra gaps you don't you you're limited in gaps when you go two by two so because no one's playing too high against Notre Dame no no one who the hell is gonna play too high safeties against Notre not until passing Downs right yeah exactly and then they're like even then why do it that NIU DC heated the crap out of Riley Leonard because you know you can't throw deep yeah they're in a bad I mean they're just in a they're in a bad place you've got a quarterback you very very you can easily question his accuracy and you've got an old line you're still trying to break in and then you don't have talent outside and then your best pass catcher Mitch Evans he's still trying to get his mojo back so I mean it's it's a bad place but then going back to what we talked about earlier run with what you got you know you got you can run your quarterback and you've got a really talented running back room yeah the whole the whole wide reer thing and we'll get into the film and see okay who's open who's not did we miss a throw here do we have time I mean it's it's football right it's a it's never just one thing and that's part of the appeal sorry sorry singer no no you're good I was just gonna before Tim goes Super Chat from a greatest ever MD appreciate you all night man he's asking the question do you start Leonard next week ghouls Tim yeah you do yeah yeah who I mean who who's starting yeah he's starting the he's the starting quarterback I mean when I scroll my notifications on Twitter right now um it it's all just Angeli hey Mike angelli angelli angelli as Steve angelli's biggest fan you don't you don't start him I mean I don't I don't I mean I think he might might be better at throwing the football right now than Riley Leonard but I don't know how much he fixes Notre Dame's offense right now because I think they need to run Leonard more which I gouby I was with you I think you tweeted early in the game about like do we love running Riley this much it's like he's not the most durable quarterback but I think Notre nam's offense might just have to just run love and Leonard I don't know if if Angeli solves your problems right now um so yeah I I don't I do not start Angeli next game can I bring up can I bring up one other just thought that passed through my brain please leadership captains famously we've only got one captain on the offensive side of the ball and your quarterback Riley Leonard and it's like Tim if he's playing like boo boo it's hard to lead there's nobody else there's nobody else to kind of lean on or look to and and that side of the ball when your sole leader as voted on is playing like ass it's that was so bad man that was so bad well that's I mean it's it's still noted in football those are still a lot of really good football players on that side you know I bet you 90% of this team were captains in high school you know what I mean so it's like so rally help your quarterback so to speak you know do something for him when he needs it um it's you know I mean the I mean this first interception by the way he forced it he horrible trying to force it to great house on the little over the-middle dump route and it gets tipped great job by that safety who would attack the out of that ball and and TI that thing and then obviously the second interception was atrocious I was blown away he didn't throw you know some of his out routes were really off today going back to the nice pass to great house on that last Drive last week the couple the Collins OB you know the Collins heit Collins on a couple passes in that game so it's definitely in there is it you know the you know this is a thing that sucks as a player and as a coach and we hear this and we know the emotions and and there's automatic letdowns we get that and you just assume Notre Dame's more talented but they're just they not more talented today physically to just take that game over I mean especially on the opening drive the third quarter right they go right down love jumps over 16 guys does three back flips touchdown I'm like one of the best he just jumped over a dude so damn high and just you know prances into the end zone you're like all right man let's turn this thing up and by the way as much as we're poo pooing on the D they played they held him to 13 freaking points until that interception put him at Midfield that's the other thing that interception got ran back 30 plus yards so they held him at 13 yards they were just starting to get a Mojo forcing the ball obviously a pooch punt they stopped him on one fourth down so D was starting to do the thing it's just offense man one freaking score just one score out of those five drives uh or the four drives post the opening drive and they just they just couldn't which is just absolutely frustrating and um you we'll dive more into the plays and situations and that just they miss them easy passes to get mojo going and I I'm definitely gonna I mean price I love price but you're right they only have love in the game for one play the rest of that game is just is interesting I like price too he's phys Z I'm just telling you he's not as gifted as Jeremiah Love is he's just not he's just not he's much more of like an audri estimate and you you know but this is two games in a row now I think Jer Jeremiah Love averaged over eight yards a carry last week and now what's he over seven yards a carry this week and it's just like get back to and then even on the defensive side the ball it's like he makes a play to get us back in the game injected into my veins singers as you love to say okay yeah Tim we're back we're rolling okay let's put it on his back nope you go sit down we're going to get cute with anas Williams and all this other stuff and then I go back to the defensive side of the ball like ury's out there making some plays man you know it's like okay and then you they start to talk about him on air and then he's out the next series you know which got me back into like yeah the whole coaching and the rotation and maybe it's the nil it's too much too much and these big games these big environment it's like okay Osberry is on one right now it's just okay I'm gonna give him some more run because he might make a big hit or make he's feeling it like Sneed bad game bad bad bad game so it's like he doesn't need to play if Osberry is a heat seeking missile right now two games no touchdown passes for uh for Ry after the I'm looking at my notes in the second half is obviously touchdown drive and then it's punt I wrote wide receivers can't get open there he's literally there's times in this game there he's Riley Leonard has times as gouls be said and just no one's getting open but I also think so many of the routes are so damn short there's so many stop routes I I I really do think guys that this passing attack going back to the pie chart I feel like it's it's probably not 33 33 33% but it's it's got to be fairly close I I I don't know as gouby goes back hat kind of guy and now I want to kick him off I'm just kidding I don't know but that's that's just me that's just me it's just like equal blame OC quarterbacks receiver oh gotta because it wasn't the the o line was fine NIU out gaining Notre Dame by 102 yards yeah time of possession almost 10 minutes gouls I I I cut you off oh I don't remember what I was going to say but maybe just talking about the wide receiver thing on our preseason The Big Show what you know position group grades Tim and I I read in one of the comments I turned it off after they gave him a c you see that comment yes it's like people people people are you not watching the game so even in like Twitter people be like you know we're we're more talented it's like no we're not no you're not listen listen and watch we're not I don't care what Legacy Notre Dame media told you it ain't true no it's um not real life as I've learned Twitter is definitely not real life so um it's I mean even the first half touchdown Drive I wrote All Riley Leonard three and- out punt that's when nap gives up a sack when they Blitz like eight guys it was insane but his guy just beaten now interception forces a great house punt allout Blitz on Third and 10 punt uh great yeah yeah yeah would have been a first down he had a great house he could have hit and he didn't hit him and then the block punt offense just atrocious man see that's you know you not the I mean Den Brock's a coach he's making a lot of freaking money but he also had freakazoids that's why those stats were what they were last year you know so um he doesn't have those guys now there's no doubt about that it's just it's just frustrating because even I was sitting there and I'm like man I'll take a 1413 win seriously last week I always said hey win by one get out of A&M today who would have thought we would have been saying win by one to survive South Bend that's exactly what we needed and it didn't happen the the interception now the more I think of man that was a 30 yard return to Midfield soon as they got the Midfield it's like oh my God and the way they're running the ball that coach was like we're going to milk this bad boy we are going to milk this thing and Notre D what they have four first downs four first down runs to get it all the way down and set up a Chip Shot stop I'm gonna run I'm Gonna Leave You guys to it my final tweet of the night was something about you know this is on Freeman all of it somebody talked about cam Ward earlier in a Super Chat maybe we could have got cam Ward maybe and then this is the guy that Freeman and staff wanted so all of this is on Freeman all of this is on Freeman and then watch Riley get hurt and then we're in a a storm man I'm I'm uh I'm bummed out I'm gonna go drink a beer no it's it's um ghouls be appreciate you dude thanks it's no it's it's it's yeah bummed out because obviously it's it's the high expectations again man well especially year three we talk about all the freaking time year three is the biggie year three is the biggie Lou Holtz Lou Holtz said the the thing about year three is either you know or you don't and um that's always that was always one of his you know comments when he's talking about programs and things of that nature um I know I saw someone in the chat earlier and it's it's true you can still make the playoffs at 11 and one yes yes you can yeah that's that's can we go there in a minute do you mind if we go there in a minute I I I really really want to do this right we got to talk about this one because Notre Dame marches down the field easy Ren Leonard a little too much for my liking but then I was like kind of wish we had ran a more um but then NIU I was like all right they get a fluky touchdown then Notre Dame's going to roll th I I I do not know how this happened so this is you you called it a 62 it's it's you know it's who who is this is this patelo at the bottom of the screen no that's Burnham well they were in a 62 this was like a 44 they I mean this is more like a yeah like a 53 53 exactly however you want to see I I would call it a four4 because I'm call I'm calling sne a linebacker so you got but yeah whatever 53 so they motion out uh Antonio Brown or antario O Brown who was tremendous by the way 20 rushes 99 yards and then two receptions for 126 yards and we're about to see an 83 yard touchdown and this so they motion him out it was a dime and then you split you have them isolated with Kingston which is like okay that's really good OC work and then this throw I mean not bad coverage by Kingston it's not terrible oh right I mean it's it's Kingston in the slot I mean he's 240 pounds but when you go back real quick Mike he reroutes the crap out of him he knocks him off his step that rter back's a good enough athlete who comes back into the route Kingston just jams the crap out of him yeah Kingston did fine King did F throws a dime Ben Morrison whs Ben Ben gets caught there Tim do I pick this or do I make the stop I agree he does neither and there is no one back look at Watts watts is playing like a you know middle of the middle third no's boundary yeah you're right's in the don't have any the only DB over there is is Ben Morrison I'm with you Ben was trying to go for the pick and is this like a cover two it's Ben and watts playing deep halves no they're playing man out there because you're in a 44 I mean sneed's not playing man look at sne running out to the FL dropping covering nobody it's yeah look like man to me look at 49's wide open I don't think that's man it's just a dump no it's a well no it's a blitz it's like a cover two you're rerunning it so much that's so fuzzy I can't even see the so okay yeah sorry sorry sorry yeah yeah yeah can I zoom in again no I can't okay that's fine that's fine um yeah Ah that's tough who knows who this Hampton kid he was a he was a gamer but that's the opening drive Notre Dame goes down then they go 90 yards so it's still 7 s it's just Notre Dame had no explosives on offense to be able to take this game away they had no explosives they didn't have any juice man it was a ren I I did not want to hear I mean we heard Ren Del's name too much is let read this one real quick is this just me of the best front running coaches yeah I you know what William I'm gonna the dude knows how to get the team jacked there's no doubt about that he got him jacked against Ohio State jacked when they played the Buckeyes in the Horseshoe um obviously last year for SC he had him hyped up Beyond hell uh Clemson when Clemson came to town as the fourth ranked team in the in the in the you know the playoff pools and they upset them A&M the you know the heighten NS in in the locker room oh that you know that's what kills me as well when you hear I wish gouby was back on here with us because when you hear players say yeah that's my coach that my coach okay well then go bust your ass a little bit extra then for the son of a gun right so he will get this football team hyped they will be hyped but they have the most hardcore letdowns that you will see and we have seen that Louisville last year Clemson with 10 guys out laid an egg obviously Marshall the Stanford uh which kills me by the way every time people if you ever see Twitter mic when you see the Freeman pick and it's nighttime and all green people always post that on Twitter that they get hype for Notre Dame that's Stanford by the way people quit posting that stupid pick when he's coming out of the damn tunnel but Tam there you have nice wins under Freeman USC it's it's still Bob D&M but then you have Marshall oh God Stanford and NIU which I think goes to your point he has been able to get his team fired up oh they get but then in this atmosphere where it gouby has talked about this for years the Sleepy afternoon games against these kind of opponents and just but but I will say this to go off I thought that crowd was hyped they were excited there was parts that was loud that h home crowd or excuse me the the the student section was rocking Parts in the second half and you hear just that TV coffee as loud as could be I mean they didn't sit on their their thumbs all day just that's fair they brought some energy the players had no energy because it was sucked away from last week but and that's as a coach at kills me it's like it's only game two guys yeah it's game two we have our whole entire season ahead of us plus it's the home freaking opener and to not come to the home opener ready to bust your ass to put your stamp on this football season it's just it's a freaking crying shame man because it is gonna be atrocious you know we you know and we talked about 11 and one I'm yeah come on it's not 11 I mean if you lose today how can we even talk about 11 and one it's ridiculous okay about 10 and two no 10 and two Mike if they lose one more no way in hell yeah no no no way in hell are they getting in losing to NIU at 10- two no way in hell so it is it is when 10 games in a row or you're going to the sunbow and to that guy who's in El Paso that watches our show I love the sunbow but I don't want to go there but if that you know I'm talking about the guy who sent me a message about hey the sunbow is nice I get it El Paso is beautiful but um yeah if Freeman doesn't win 10 in a row this is a this is pathetic it's pathetic in year three and history shows that they had that nice graphic on H NBC Today all those three-year records of all the coaches they didn't talk about Bob Davey going five- seven they didn't talk about Willingham getting fired after year three going six and five after a five- seven year two Charlie Weiss only winning three games in year three you know I'm not not saying nd's only going to win you know it's going to win three games they're going to win more than that yeah yeah the proofs and the pudding in year three it it really is dude I I I I want to talk about what's next and and I I'm kind of like debating in my mind how much I want to do that right now because you want to let this digest a little bit we could we'll de more Tuesday but like where where you go from here like what what this team could still do because I I queued this up from from left Twix he said this about you know half hour ago and he said 111 gets us in the playoffs yes but sure I I can Notre Dame do that like this I I I keep seeing the comments don't even talk about the playoffs I get it but no exactly I'm I'm with that guy as well it's ridiculous talk about the playoffs this team needs to go win it produ so so the the future of Marcus Freeman I think unless they totally crap the bed this season Tim and what crapping the bed means is subjective to some it might be eight and four some might be you know 9 and3 I don't know 10 I mean but I if I think how Notre Dame's gonna finish this season and who who the hell cares about what I think I thought Notre Dame was going to beat a uh and 45- 133 that was my pick but year four for Freeman If he if they do not have a big year next year he is in he's in trouble and here's the thing about next year Tim new quarterback new receivers new tight ends o line Tim you potentially could return five you probably will sh could go pro I I don't know dline brand new dline linebackers you know that linebacker of course going to be pretty good if they keep everybody DBS a lot of new Watts lots of new guys you're gonna have gray Clark yeah yeah yeah gr maybe Mickey I I don't know yeah it's a next year's team is like brand new and even this year's team felt brand new new receivers right you know you lose SM new quarterback next year is like even more nervy next year's team on paper might be not even as talented so it's like Tim Tim I'm nervous I like for Freeman what did I talk about you if you don't beat A&M these same things I'm talking about was what I was talking about if you don't beat A&M well now we're right back there you beat A&M but you lost to NIU yes so we're we're pretty much at the point of you lost A&M um you know you you have one of the worst losses in Notre Dame history losing to Northern Illinois and Freeman fre sorry one more thing Tim Freeman has a couple of the worst losses in in school history losing to Marshall and NIU at hes I mean Notre Dame no more scheduling g5s just you know play play you know Vandy or Missouri go go go play more SEC teams yeah it's funny you say all time because Air Force and night I still remember air air force in 96 when Bo Morgan ran like a machine and they beat Notre Damon overtime that that was a that's when Holtz knew he wasn't he was done that was a that was a kick in the ass in 9 six um but uh yeah Marshall was horrible Bob Davy just lost a better football teams when he was there same with Willingham the loss I I'm glad gby is not on because the BC loss in 2002 is just Notre Dame's number three in the country was just like bam just punched me in the face uh that that was so bad and then and then but that was the beginning of the end for Willingham because the rest of his tenure he was done a after that lost to BC and then Weiss just had the one horrible year and just lost to obviously Hughes and then Connecticut turned down you know and then Kelly Kelly had horrible losses early but I'm always with Brian Kelly with people always talk about oh he lost to tulson yeah was year one and and and Notre Dame just step back Notre Dame was a was was just bad football from 97 99 and it took and they were he wasn't going to clean it up in year one that's why they lost a toll set Navy ran the ball down their ass um and and went from there but Marshall and niu's worse than Marshall that Marshall team ended up a top 10 defense one like nine or t games I believe singer so we'll see what this NIU team does but um that was a good Marshall football team that year but you shouldn't lose a freaking Marshall for crying out loud this niu's 28 point Underdog 28 point underdog this is this is like Appalachian State beaten Michigan I mean it's it's like yeah this is worse than Marshall so now when we get you know all the people on Twitter and come in in the in the messages and all that oh Marshall and NIU now but you're right these are just atrocious losses in the history of Notre Dame um just badad what do you say schedule you got a smile here and there is um just yeah it's bumed it's sad that guy yelling at someone in the stands Mike it's the home opener when when was the last time for all the Notre Dame old guys like me who've been around Notre Dame's had a home opener and the fans booed the team at the halftime that says so much yeah let me U so um I mean is there anything from haa from fre yeah that's that's exactly where I was going I I Haven even jumped neither I haven't looked at all this is my first time seeing this stuff Notre imp coach Mark streaman says you go from the highest of highs to the lowest of lows in the span of two weeks we've gotta Own It Marcus sheman we've been here before unfortunately very true in his I think this is hca's um con like haa said that that last part unfortunately very true in his short Notre name 10 you're not where you want to be Freeman it's everybody in this program who under chiev today maybe not Jay noar this wasn't the Notre Dame defense the last two years says Freeman oh Notre Dame says he believed this Notre Dame program under his guidance was beyond days like today losing at home to a four touha Underdog quote this is as low as it gets Riley Leonard quote on his second it of the game bad eyes bad feet bad ball yeah the I don't know what you mean by the eyes I'm maybe just stared down Mitchell but the feet I did not like you're I mean you really should be getting the power from your your base I think he he tried it was just a yeah it was a line drive I think he was getting base or his power from his front leg that's not how you're in bad terrible it looks pretty it looked pretty but it was a terrible I think that goes back to his eyes where he mentions his eyes he thought he thought he had a line drive you know what I mean like he was just gonna throw a dart but mik he underthrew the dart like atrociously bad as we saw so uh it's uh it's it's it's it's crazy because like we said there's a couple guys played I was goingon to say earlier Jordan Clark I thought played his ass off today that dude was all over the place number one Ury played his butt off like crazy I said Billy schra I from what I watched live and rewound a few plays was 74 was knocking the hell out of people at Right Guard I thought he played really well price had some violent runs and obviously love um just doing more of those Maybe Mike I got mocked in the off season because I said everyone is in love with 11 personnel and what did Timmy H but maybe you got to do some 12 every now and then to run the ball they did it last week at A&M but uh may you know you know maybe you just got to insert an extra guy in there sometimes today they just they didn't they did the Double Wing I call with the two tight ends on the wings think they did that maybe once didn't see raren a lot today saw nine in there ear Evans obviously started to play a little bit more it is it is interesting Tim I I really need to think about this more and kind of reflect on this but just the you're on this end of the spectrum and then one thing happens and it's on the other end like all oh I get clowned all the time for loving angelli I'm never claiming I I've when have I said angelli should start over Leonard I've never said that now it's completely vom on the other side starting a jelly starting a jelly we're we're we're we're just Parker sucks Parker sucks Den Brock is God it's all offseason all Brock sucks fire 10 it's like that's all we heard all offseason is Den Brock and I brought up one time he's been in OC eight years he's had one top 20 offense one one there with two first round round wide receivers a Joe Moore award finalist on the o line a future tight end who's going to the NFL and Taylor and Heisman Trophy winning quarterback who happened to be the number one player in the country in 2019 at quarterback so it's not like there was stiffs down there and a if they had any defense I mean they they probably no one wants to hear this but they're probably in the in the playoffs last year with all that offensive Firepower but uh and then Dem brck comes he's got wisdom he's got age he's got all those things you know you can only you can only do so much and that's why I know gouby will probably agree with this when he and I talked so much during the off season was hoping he would you know gouby calls him miss you know mismatch Den Brock well there's no mismatches in the last two games I I don't know I mean I gouby gave him that little you know moniker but there's no mismatch the mismatch is thr to Malik neighbors that's the mismatch yeah you know it's like the mismatch is teams run too high without a spy Daniels runs 80 yards like against against Florida that's the mismatch uh there's just none of that and I saw in the comments someone just says I'm out of here I'm done I feel you buddy I really do because I feel like we've been talking about this for 30 freaking years and right when you think you're on the tip you come down a little bit um it's like 2015 I feel 2015 that was a national championship football team and they laid an egg against Clemson you know in the rain but then they got all the way back into the playoff hunt and the worst offense or worst defensive performance against a ranked team in Stanford and lost that at the end that was a gut wrencher but um I'm just talking about teams with expectations um this team had their expectations this year was literally we've been talking forever is about not not just the playoffs because none of has been to the playoffs it's final four Notre Dame's been to the final four three times you know championship game and Final Four counted three times um they haven't won a a big bowl well you don't get a big bowl unless you win round one and then next game is the neutral sits so we gonna is Notre Dame even gonna have a shot I mean seriously you watched Georgia last week how about Texas today even beat Michigan who has zero quarterback um yeah you know because they would just Hammer the ball uh but uh just frustrating I mean Georgia played a nobody today and played all backups the second half yeah oh man Nebraska I just I've got uh the USF I'm just gonna be complely honest I got the USF Bama game pulled up on my second monitor keep an eye on that Nebraska's up 14 z uh Dion's kid just threw a pick six and and backed up against his own uh up 73 in the second quarter DVR I can't wait to jump and watch that one so Nebraska Colorado oh I'm rooting for Nebraska hard tonight oh yeah big big Corn Husker fan tonight and I I'm obviously pulling pulling from my alma moer against uh against bam here and they're they're hanging in there any other anything people are on their mind anything just I mean all right here here's what's on here's what's on my mind I want to go back to the quarterback position sure I and I really hope I've said this on this show cuz I've talked about this a lot Angeli for him to be starter in 2025 when he we all think that's like he's gonna play at some points this year right knock on W you don't want Riley to get hurt but you know maybe you know he comes out for a couple series you know uh you know his knee pad falls off you know or you know little little ankle sting or something like or if Notre Dame stinks so bad they have to they just make a change if Angeli plays well this year that that that's the variable for him to be the guy in 2025 if he balls out to the point like if he does get in the games and he is he has to play so well that Notre Dame does not have any other choice than to not start him in 2025 or Angeli if he plays this year year and doesn't do well then he kind of forces Notre Dame's hand and be like yeah sorry you're clearly not the guy we're going to go with Carr or minchi I I don't know if it would be minie I think it would be Carr next year and from what I had been told Tim Notre Dame has not and I've said this a bunch Notre Dame does not plan to go to the portal now as I'm going through this Spiel it it could be four out of five years that they go to the portal T it it it they might do it again they might have to I don't know like to to go get a starter I've also said this I believe if Notre Dame goes to Carr next year you could see angelli and Mig go right why would you sit behind a guy who's younger than you and then I think you would have to bring in like an FCS level transfer guy right go go get Harvard's quarterback or something to have some depth you can't go in with car and a true freshman as your your quarterbacks but anyways the Angeli thing is interesting I think if Notre Dame loses again God forbid they lose again and a bad loss to a Purdue or Miami Ohio sounds ridiculous but not name loss to NIU who knows maybe they do go in a different direction and go with Angela I don't know all right that's a lot Tim what do you think I need a drink that's what I that's what I think um uh yeah you I mean I mean you don't go how do you do the port how do you do the portal unless you I mean you unless there's just some Elite dude in there but that's what they thought for two years and every damn fan watching this show is gonna say the same thing that's what we've been saying for two years totally agree they got con because of depth reasons they weren't gonna play Pine jov Buckner was a freshman Buckner was a true freshman that's why they played Tyler Buckner to get him prepped and they gave him reps as a true freshman so con's a different different animal because of the QB you know we keep talking about how Elite this quarterback room is all right well then we'll see can no one throw better than Riley Leonard I'm constantly being told how Elite this quarterback room is so okay um we'll see so no no one's beat Riley Leonard and we talked see this is when we need to get probably guys on Tuesday night or something in chitchat because going back to hca's amazing stories that you know Tyler wrote about Riley Leonard and we and we came away with like he's a heck of an athlete he's pretty good intermediate which he showed today deep balls always scary his all in all his starts he's only completed 41% of passes past 20 years uh 20 yards excuse me uh during his Duke time and we've shown can't complete him here either so uh that's what's really frustrating um yeah the quarter right Ry Leonard's your quarterback because they didn't think the other three could could start correct but to your point if they go out there and Louisville kicks their ass in a couple of weeks because they don't block Gillette in that dline and two losses you're going to the freaking Gator Bowl the Outback Bowl the sunbowl the blue bonnet Bowl that's guaranteed do you start prepping for for 25 which is scary because going back to your point 15 minutes ago year four is going to be younger than year three yeah how the hell are you gonna have a a training wheels quarterback in year four because you cannot go nine and three next year you can't yeah so the writing man the right is the writing on the wall I really don't want to say that after a one inone start but said this never said that Mark but but Mark's my biggest critic good to see Mark it's frustrating because we just we just keep going into year three the the expectations are Skyhigh and this team's already just laid a freaking egg yeah which is really sad I want to say this real quick for I should have said this early in the show for folks listening on podcast and watching the replay on YouTube if you're somehow one of those two folks 80 minutes into this we we hit record go live five seconds five I mean we were literally right after the the game ended so we were like so that that uh that open to the show was uh pretty quick um no the seat the seat's hot fans are pissed off I totally get it I'm I'm pissed I'm just like sitting here just stunned with some stupid grins tonight like what the hell are we watching seriously what are we watching yeah how how does the Notre Dame football team not just come out there the home opener and let's go kick some ass let's go compete for a National Championship where is where's the killer mentality I want to rip your throat out and go kick someone's ass I okay so Ross saying Mike you were right on angelli like Riley Leonard not playing well today doesn't mean have anything to do with me being right on angelli I I still will stick with you you have to play Leonard you can't bench him now because you do although it'll be much more difficult when a committee sits around and be like all right well if they go 11 and all right you're 11- one you lost to NIU you beat a terrible Florida State team and you know USC I don't know USC might be really good if they could go and beat USC on the but so but you still have those things ahead of you so I don't think you can although I don't think they're going to make the playoff now I but you you still do have it ahead of you so I don't think you can you can bench Leonard right now see I am um Marcus Freeman's in his third year so Stephen jelly Stephen Jelly's been his backup for two of those Seasons he still went and got a transfer so obviously he knew it could have been a jelly Carr Minch or Minch Carr whatever those could have been the three quarterbacks this year he chose not to so for people thinking throw in jelly in there off of what that's what I don't understand I I I I don't know at least with Riley Leonard the dude's athletic as hell he can scramble and you can run him you can run him that's the biggest thing for me today you can run Mike Den Brock as you pointed out Mike his last carry was the 11 minute Mark in the second quarter so he literally goes almost three quarters without a carry after looking like Tim TBO the opening drive he can it it must have been something where he got banged up and they're just like We're not gonna run him anymore yeah to win a freaking game that that's what that that's what I'm starting to get pissed off about is you had to win this game they had to win this game by any means necessary and I feel like they just didn't do it yeah so left twick says who cares about he can run he can't thow I mean he he he I was I talking to my wife about Leonard before the game started I was like he is he misses a lot of throws he he does yes he I mean the great house throw right like he he gives you some but he can offset that with his with his running ability and with no if Notre Dame had a big time o line which it it was better today but I wouldn't call like a big time o line and a really good receiver core maybe Angeli be more of the answer but with Notre names just lack to be able to push the ball down field because of the receivers not not having their strength I think you need a guy like Riley Leonard at quarterback which I feel like I'm just that was might have been like a Mike gouby take from you know a couple years ago last year but that's uh I don't know and the comments and I I agree with what so many people are saying I I I really do I totally get it about it's not ex excuse making believe I I mean I thought Riley Leonard sucked he was average at times last week as well until it really I mean I mean let's don't forget last week it was only 13 to 13 four minutes to go in that or five minutes whatever the heck the the minutes where where they go down and score so and um and the same thing today you have you have an opening drive to start the game and an opening drive to start the second half that's it listen I I'm just reading the comments I mean I'm getting called stupid Riley lers to be benched like this is from the same people who said how dare you pick Notre Dame I didn't but how dare you pick Notre Dame lose against Texas A&M like haa got trashed and so got trashed and it's like we're the best we're gonna beat everybody and now it's the same people are like fire everyone it's like we're the best I I went from I I talked earlier Tim about how a lot of the people I seen the comments are on one side and they switched they completely switched sides in in a second it's we are the best ever we're going to beat everybody to we are the worst never let Riley put on a Notre Dame Helm again it's it's it's it's truly wild to me uh super chats Armand Doza says singer I want to be you when I grow up you can look at all this objectively but the rest of us D inside I don't agree with that at all I I we are all trying to be objective but I am I'm dying inside I dying inside do you aroza rewind my friend and watch me for the first 10 minutes of this show but it's it's and it's frustrating I'm seeing the fans that everyone say it's like it's it's frustrating because it's just year after year after year and then you lose to a Mac team it's like what the hell are you doing I just don't understand the mentality of this football team today about you're at home man Marcus Freeman I said this earlier in the show he always talks about you know you only get 12 games he always talks about whenn they interval that's his big coaching philosophy is win the interval meaning in between each play get your mind right for the next opportunity and they just didn't do it today and it's just freaking frustrating you know what I mean and uh they come out of that tunnel in the home opener and just because they did come out with emotion and that's what sucks right when you come out and you go right down the field and score and you got the energy going and then the 80 yard pass goes right down and hits it but uh no it's it's a killer man because you spend nine months this is all of us this is everyone I mean I'm a big Notre Dame fan there's a ton of books behind me I got a lot of memoril I love Notre Dame football and all that and we just keep waiting I saw someone in the chat earlier says here we go again talking about next year exactly it sucks it sucked it sucks because this football team when you watch them they're beating these top teams you know what I mean you just watch some of these dudes athletically Texas offensive line all five I mean they're they're they're going to be a Joe Mo Ward favorite them LSU o line Georgia is they're monstrous they will Hammer the out of Notre Dame hammering the ball they will so something needs to just rally change that goes back to your point next year Mike man this whole D line is leaving so of all these starters are getting gashed by NIU who the hell are the backups at next year so well I was thinking about that I mean bubacar well bubacar is a stud I mean yeah he had a great tackle today I tweeted he's an NFL guy like he he just is but yeah RJ Obin from Eric Super Chat says thoughts on the defensive line thought it was soft like RJ Obin has been a non-factor two games I was a huge RJ Obin fan going into this game like he's I he no one's calling his name at all like he is doing nothing he played like a possessed man last year against Notre Dame what what the hell happened to that guy play burnam because at least he gave effort play tryi then because you're right it's I mean I'll watch the game a little closer and see where n number nine is but you don't hear his name even in a freaking assist on a tackle so uh it's just you know it's frustrating if RJ obin's injured um then he shouldn't play yeah he should inj young go with some young guys that would just play with your ass on fire and give you some energy and then uh and real quick on wide receivers I know fa on gby talked about this Faison's out but then Mike they only played Five Guys KK Smith played like two snaps in the first drive never saw him again never saw him again and he's supposedly your fastest guy I know and me and gouls be have been talking about this since he and I met during during this show is like play Fast guys and your fastest guys are are watching so is there not an opportunity to hit KK Smith well part of the problem Miss Tim when you do take a shot it's short it gets underthrown by 20 yards I know that's why I can't say anything you're right it gets underthrown oh man but oh it's I I can't believe the dude could have throw the ball 30 yards I I vividly remember Tim I think it was the Navy game was it was the pine you remember I'm talking no no no no no no it was the Stanford game Stanford were's trying to hit Tobias and he did 40 yards it was 40 yards it was 45 yards damn it and you were like Pine cannot throw the ball and I was like you know what Tim we watched it he threw at 45 yards and you were like okay Mike you can throw at 45 yards throw him aart it's funny thinking back at that it's like that Drew PS farther than Riley Leonard that's one thing we've noticed in two games um t uh tddp 574 longtime fan show he says i' take a text saying I'm lost over this for real you lose against A&M it's like I I don't know I don't know which one you'd rather have it's it's kind of like a pointless exercise but it's an interesting one to think in your brain um of would you rather have lost against A&M and beat NIU where it's just same old it's same old Notre D and can't win the big game or the bed against a Mac team I don't know which one's worse probably that's all the same it's been the narrative for 30 freaking years either way narrative has not changed one bit one bit so which then goes back to your you know your piece of work Mike which is recruiting it's like oh yeah let's talk about this where who the hell are the wide receivers oh I just saw so who are these wide receivers that are being recruited because Mitchells coming from FIU as looked averages could be obviously Collins is unbelievable at stop routes he's physical aggressive as could be had a nice little middle screen today and then Harrison Harrison played Mike singer I bet you you played more snaps than him at wide receiver T did is Harr I don't I don't know he got he got a nice kickoff return and then NIU was like yeah we're kicking this out the rest of the way but uh the wide receiver room played Five Guys six KK for or two snaps and that's it so basically five really Four Guys rotated right Collins Collins Mitchell great house Thomas only Thomas had one Target and then he's in the Run block and then uh Harrison is nobody so they'll wide receiver room for a stacked as we've been told Mike because you and I are not at practice right as stacked as this wide receiver room is this goes to the Twitter guy who always who always Post in all caps to all those guys how stacked this team is yeah I didn't see that we haven't seen it in two weeks we haven't seen it in two weeks because we get a ton of routes on air nobody breaks down underwear better than you and me by the way nobody break down training camp film and underwear that's why I call t-shirts and shorts we are awesome at that oh man what uh what did Brett say Brett's been posting some good things what does he say but his his running doesn't matter for two scared I I agree buddy that's that's that's what Mike singer pulled up where he said his last carry was 11 minute Mark and that was like you you run Leonard if you have to you have you you run Leonard only if you have to in my opinion and they they had to they had to they had to run them in the in the second half and they did I don't know if maybe he did get dinged up a little bit cuz there was one where uh he got hit and he kind of came up holding his left shoulder and I was like oh no I don't know what point that was but he um but you know what they but this goes back to the whole Spread spread them out and we have inside running Lanes no you don't you just don't it's it's yeah it's still comes back you know and the running backs had some nice runs today that's the thing with the young old line I I talked about this man the youngest old lines in the history of Notre Dame football outside of 88 which was year three for them and only four starts with Tim grunhard in 88 the offensive lons that have had few starts like this those teams stunk so hopefully they pick this thing up and get some rally and um but you know I don't know how much longer you want to go but it's goingon to be it's going to be the same thing it's going to be wide receivers it's going to be a pass game it's going to have to be some explo iives out on the perimeter to move um you know things along you know things along Mike C says we will never see a national championship sure we will I truly believe we will formul there's a formula that is we'll see one it'll just it'll be for Georgia like we'll see Georgia win one no I mean I don't know can win a National Championship I truly believe that there is a formula for that they've been close you just got to get over the hump so it's um I know a ton of people in the chat have been talking about well Freeman's you know you know still a young coach blah blah blah okay great still it's still a year three all right you should be playing a ton of his guys know you know all that type of stuff which we are with some of the young guys so we are we are seeing a lot of that sophomore surge is happening no doubt about it so you some of those other guys need to uh go from there yeah starts with the o line as leou said exactly and the o line is young man you got three brand new starters it really five because the only way Ashton Craig and Billy schra started last year because of injuries had there not been injuries they get zero starts so Daniel you will see a uh he says born in 91 you will see a title you will see a title you will see a title I I I truly believe it I do and I I all right Tim I want you to just close your eyes with me okay close your eyes oh my God it's it's Thursday night we're recording our uh pregame show our pregame video and I tell you hey Tim you're you didn't close your eyes damn it close your eyes Tim Notre Dame's losing 16 to 14 can you do anything but laugh can you I me no because you know what because because if you say that will be like yeah I've seen that before you have but not this was supposed to be the year was it I mean we could easily say this was supposed to be the Year Tim people were telling me final four or bust that's me that's what I've said all final four or bust yes we just I mean we just lost an NIU it is look at this guy 28 nothing Ohio State beating a Mac team exactly because they probably got perimeter guys outside but uh guaranteed noted him the playoffs this week oh yeah I mean the hey Mike but once again let's let just spend a minute on that with the fans because everyone knows everyone watches ESPN or on Twitter watching Clips or going on YouTube the national media wanted to make a statue for Freeman oh my God he's the best we talking about Tuesday we talking about Tuesday but I always hear but this is what gets me is so he's so personable so many people want to play for him not everyone wants to play for him but anyway uh because they laid age like this you know which is beyond beyond just just beyond even think about because that goes back to the the Freeman hke even going back to year one Freeman is the coach because of the players the players went to Jack SW Brook Jack I mean Jack talked about this the overwhelming he's ready he's here all that good stuff you know you know swre talked about this he's here because of the players then the players go out and lose four games in year one so now the players see that this another thing that kills me is Freeman went he went hype train last week and he talked about I saw all those players that I wanted them to put it on me okay and those players responded and played played for you they did not and and it I I hate to say they didn't play they didn't play for him today because there was dudes out there played their living asses off they just didn't just didn't make any plays and that always comes down to what Mike quarterback in the OC as you you mention this was Tommy ree today I mean people would be going nuts we haven't heard Mike Den Brock's name which is just fascinating I just had a uh yeah and as Kevin Cook says they were young last week exactly and it was 1313 four minutes to go they went out and made those plays so it I mean it was 13313 with the preseason 9th best team in the SEC let's all remember that as well look at this comment from Emily and to think we will have to watch it back on the peacock show how they do the peacock show I don't I don't even I I I still haven't watched the first couple episodes but when do they well that's the other thing everyone's on Twitter talking about oh my God I'm so emotional people crying after the first two shows Notre Dame can't lose yet again I like when I don't know when peacock is putting out the new episodes like it's gonna it's after after I believe there's going to be like two around Christmas after the regular season and then a couple more in January so they're really doing everything at the end of the year oh really so so it's six episodes and they're spaced out okay so they did two two more after the season like I think right before the playoff start when Notre Dame host that game Mike is the six seed right 11 say that again I'm joking I said there's gonna be two episodes right before the playoff game when Notre Dames the six seed at 111 hosting but um there's gonna be two and there's gonna be two I think right after the championship game um Lauren said they should Lauren Hamilton I see you in here the time Lauren I appreciate appreciate you being here yeah the the one that did in 15 was Showtime was was every week was every week TD um says qu that third one I think you mean the second one um un there was a third one which was a nice flow you get you get a nice you get a nice run by Price you get the first down stop route to Collins boom niney boundary to Collins it's second to one Midfield they have all the momentum in the freaking world all the momentum in the world and he throws a 30 yard pass 20 yards Mike you know what's know what's crazy two weeks you're not lying buddy I said no matter what happens with the A&M game it's going to be our biggest show in blue and gold history and I think the it was it was top three or four I think the Kelly ones I think it was Kelly Freeman being hired OSU 2022 in that one I I don't it was at least top four it could have been one I don't know it's up there I did not expect the next week to be one of our biggest shows of all time too um I mean I I was I was talking to my wife before the the game started and I was like should be nice and easy we could talk about you know you know dinner I'll be in bed by midnight and nope nope I this is just shell shocking just how bad yeah I and now he and now he needs to Rally these troops and go on a road game and be beat Purdue Purdue beat a atrocious team and game one they're off this week Purdue is off this week so they have a buy so they'll be nice so who knows about Purdue right yeah exactly Jack stoble and I were talking this week he's like yeah they're going to tr Purdue we also all thought they were going to tr so so who knows but regardless of of how good Purdue is you're still going on the road there and that's going to be their Super Bowl you think I'm badly Purdue is gonna want to beat Notre Dame oh after this oh yeah they're gonna be hyped up they're gonna have confidence that goes to our good buddy J Carr it's o line dline driven program exactly so those guys better show up next week so we've heard o line dline program for three years win the interval for three years you only get 12 games so you should be emotionally for every game yeah I what I would love I mean what what did they do in the off season like mentally that like yeah you know how was the pass offense that bad do you do you go to well Leonard was out so much right yeah do do you talk about that um I you know what those could be massive excuses I am gonna say I truly believe and and and this why I love to hear you know Tyler Tyler say the same thing which I'm sure he'll agree with me I think what we've seen from Riley Leonard is what we saw that Duke very a very athletic I mean he could throw some throws he really threw some great throws at Duke and he he has thrown some sweet passes these last couple in the first two games but the inconsistency is just a killer it's just a killer and that's when you need your run game to step up or you need a lock down defense and you know I know we bitched about the D they held him to 13 points until they get put at Midfield that's what sucks you get put at Midfield you get a field goal or you get a first down and a half you're in field goal range you know and and they just kept marching that though that whole time all right you're at Midfield defense is going to Rally up and stuff them and they just got they got whipped on that last Drive man just boom boom boom NIU got that because it was what what was the interception was it two minutes to go it's it's not it's not like it was under pick yeah the the the bad underthrow yeah six minutes it was like six minutes left so NIU had the ball that long I just uhhuh yeah they got the drive Tim Tim 555 left that's when they got it 555 left I thought it about four minutes yeah I didn't know wow six minutes how yeah how about that you know four minute you know you call it a four minute drive when you have the ball you're trying to ice it I mean they they went down and just kept converting kept converting like it's it's it this literally feels like the same Playbook we saw against Marshall you know what I mean this the same type of thing atmosphere uh the samee atmosphere I'm thinking the two teams NIU ran it down their throat Marshall ran for almost 200 in that game as well don't forget they're they're running back who was a grocery remember working at a grocery store x five star at FIU been out of football like 18 months goes to Marshall runs for 150 against Al Golden's defense that day it's like just they gave up a 50 yard chunck run but we'll make the playoffs with 11 and one buddy Cameron I I will give you a virtual hug if that help happens okay yeah I mean okay there's there's two there's two parts of that that comment can it happen yes if they go 11 and one they they definitely can they they in my opinion would need help because it's not like you're you you would be getting in at 11 and one because you know no one else is 11 wins you have 11 wins but unless like USC is really really good it's like all right we we and A&M has a decent year it's like all right we beat A&M we beat USC yeah there was a fluke loss that would be the argument for Notre Dame so can it happen yes but if this is Notre Dame the team we saw today and maybe A&M is not I know& M blew out mck e State today today but you know a lot of teams do it it's hard to see that happening so there's the that's the two sides of it it's can it happen yes but it's really hard to see it happen how about I'm I'm how about how about money because it was it was broken down in the off season every year Notre Dame makes the playoffs they make more money as a program than the SEC teams do only the Big 10 with that TV contract makes more so this loss could be C Notre Dame $20 million yeah and they paid out 1.4 you paid exactly you and you gave Den Brock the contract you signed up mick signed up Golden didn't let Chad bow and go to Michigan gave him whatever contract brought couple other underbellies in hire a guy away from PFF which his assistant they're asking for I think is $170,000 job his assistant they're trying to hire someone post on our message board which means he's making 200 plus where probably more than that to be the analytics expert all these people got pay raises even in their whole Recruiting office got all restructured everyone got new titles means money money money Mr Shields God love you Mr Shields who wrote A $75 million check to build a football you know hangout spot to go cook some uh steak and eggs some sausage and pepper sandwich is for the guys $75 million project love you Mr Shields because that is needed how's that going to help on the recruiting trailer when you got NIU and Marshall on your resume it's a kicker man for as much hype as there was last week just just stay off social media no posting or anything M all right cell says don't mention Notre Dame in the in the playoffs in the same sentence cell you just did you just did you just put them in the same sentence there you go buddy Scott $ Super Chat thank you Scott Tim uh J Carr wanted to ask would you have played Angeli or minchi in that game like would you have given them a series I I can't imagine there's no way in hell why would I play Minch minchi has in beating out Stephen jelly so why would I play Kenny minchie who's third string quarterback I mean there's no way there's no way and coaches make changes like you know sometimes yeah yeah that's a drastic change times 10 so um especially I've read where CJ Carr has been getting the bulk of majority of the other rep so we'll see how that plays out wait wait wait wait wait wait what just car just car bulk of what reps you could say scout team third team whatever you want to call or whatnot yeah there's no there ain't no repping third team yeah he's getting scout team yeah he he he runs scout team I believe probably him and M so he's getting reps and practice is what I'm saying okay for the other team guys I don't think we're playing CJ Carr I'm trying to be nice there's not four quarterbacks practicing is what I'm trying to say there's three oh okay yeah between the lines read between the lines I really think there's two I think it's it's really just Leonard andeli playing with the exactly yeah but but in jelly yeah I don't want to say all right so so the the the logic of well I don't want to play the guy I got beat out like well Joe Al was their third choice OT so sometimes playing but he played because three guys got hurt ahead of him Blake fiser get got hurt Michael kedy starts the next week has a bad sprained ankle Baker get hurt then Baker missed the game injuries are not still the third choice sometimes better yeah kedy came back against Cincinnati played the whole first half and stunk they inserted Joe Al in the second half against ciny and he never came out off the field yeah I still think my point remains while it it it might be an exception not the rule still sometimes making changes works you know I I I agree but you know it's easy for us and J Carr has a great point I I I totally get it like the offense was stink it it was because it was it was just yeah you're right the inaccurate pass just and jelly go in and and try and rally them um it's hard to do that in the second half when you just took the opening score down and you're up 143 1 you know what I mean all of a sudden you don't want to be put your backup in when it's 1413 and jelly throws a pick or and jelly fumbles uh then then the whole harping would be like what the hell are you doing you see what I mean you go around and round and round on that thing and we could see there and say well he's he probably would have done the same as Riley Leonard okay so so what'd you gain nothing so gives a different look I don't know what the look is because and jelli doesn't run like Riley Leonard so the look would have been more allout BL probably and and uh let step jelly throw you know deep I I have no idea I have no idea the way those the way those drives flowed in the second half they scored and it's punt punt interception so and the interception once again was at Midfield after back-to-back first downs so yeah I'm I'm a little bit with Nick here he's like go give Leonard another week for me it's like you can't you I don't think you can make a move yet I I don't think you make a move yet but it it's I would love to know it's on the horizon potentially I would love to know is there an you know was he banged up enough to where they just said we're just not gonna yeah yeah I don't know don't know you know right was that a factor or was it just car's point which okay if you can't run him and that's his strength and play just another quarterback that can throw that I totally I get with if J Carr is using that as that type of thing if you're not going to run Riley Leonard you're not going to make him a dual threat quarterback he's not a pocket quarterback that's gonna pick you apart yeah yeah he's not okay so Lauren says what will a third week show it's not about like what it will show you it's about you you don't say trash this let's start over because that's really what you're doing you are that it's not like benching the making a change at linebacker the quarterback that's a huge change of starting quarterback this isn't a video game where you just you click a a click a now you swapped it that's done this is a a real life locker room so it's not about like what will it show you it's like keep what you planned you keep it going and if if it needs to be trashed then you trash it but you still do technically have your goals ahead of you so I as the leader of the Angeli fan club I still would go with Leonard um probably until you get another loss or if he is just so bad and they're winning in spite of him but otherwise I still think you have to go you have to go with Le so oh I agree with that to your point about because it's year four next year Mike right so if you lose two games and the goal is to win is to get to the playoffs excuse me so when you only play eight power four conference now we don't have power five only eight conference games two Mac and twoy I saw almost 40% uh 40% of power four programs are playing 10 this year so there are going to be teams at nine and three getting in the playoffs as rightfully sh they should they play ask kicking schedules this year so and I think Notre Dame I think I saw the stat the other day after the A&M game Notre Dame is the only Power Team power Conference team did not play nine so everybody's playing nine so you're already climbing uphill that's why you can't lose to a game like this so I'm with you Mike singor in that if they come out and they wet the bed in the you know the next couple weeks because I mean throw up the schedule real quick and we could flow with that so you got if you lose a second game before let's say Georgia Tech okay let's say before Georgia Tech then damn it go with the second one because if you have two losses you're you're going to the Pop-Tart Bull and you're gonna eat Pop-Tarts okay your goal in that is to eat the guy who who dies and you get to eat the the hot Pop-Tart in that machine Mike right and what what a bow game that would be but that's the goal so if you lose two games damn it it's all about playing your ass off the rest of the season getting some guys ready for the NFL and you can't do this again in year four because if you do this in back-to-back Seasons after already having year one and two you're not in the New Year's six Notre Dame football you add up the bull Revenue if you miss the playoffs in 20 what are we 24 25 no New Year's 6 and 23 or 22 Notre Dame has lost $75 million probably more when you add up you know the playoffs and all that crap I'm probably that's probably way too much let's say it's under 70 that's a ton of money in Marcus Freeman's four years they've gotten nothing this is after Brian Kelly playoffs got him into the Fiesta Bowl playoffs in 18 uh Fiesta Bowling 15 you know what I mean so yeah that' be four straight years without big bowl game and in the history of Notre Dame you judge you judge programs you judge coaches by being in being in the national championship hunt or whatever we say about Brian Kelly and the hatred towards Brian Kelly he did have a flow when you look at lose emoji and Tim Priester's flow of a Notre Dame coach both those guys wrote about it many many times and Lou samoji talked about this all the time you want to be in a hunt every four years on average and he kind of was so if you go four years going to your point mik about for next year it's tough that's a lot of money this program is going to be losing in this day and age where money is the king bring Kelly back I'm talking about his tenure I didn't say bring Kelly back Joe PM thanks for the for Super Chat um real quick two more comments that we're out of here this was funny from AJ here Riley needs to take off that you suck bra s all right this is it we're get at here where think we end up in the AP poll folks please hit the thumbs up if you have not done so yet on this this video as we just hit two hours where do you think we end up in the AP poll H 20 yeah I was gonna say 15 to 20 you know High Teens something like that I would drop them I would drop them to your point that 18ish yeah something like that because you you did beat A&M on the road but it's it's sure but A&M is like I said the ninth preseason ninth in the SEC it's not like you be the you know juggernaut and how and A&M was ranked because of the hype of Elco so it's not like it was deserving coming off of past Seasons the last couple years so I I would throw him at 20 and good luck get back into the cim and start from there that that's what I would do if I was a pollster you lose as a 28 point dog 20 yeah 20 we give you credit last week this week nah you're just a one-on-one football team I got you yeah because now you start comparing those one inone teams you know what I mean over the last couple weeks all right uh if uh always irishes go live excuse me if always Irish is still alive John Kennedy go over to his channel tell him Mike singer from blue and gold sentu seriously I'm gonna pull it up and watch him let me let me make sure he's still Al hold on guys I'll even drop his um hold on let me all right he is still alive better to lose early than late it's all right if you are watching on YouTube go over go over to always Irish and uh watch him and say Mike singer sent me what's the score of the hold on Nebraska I'm gonna go watch Nebraska are they gonna kick Dion Sanders but tonight guys I want to see this chat saying Mike singer sent me I want you guys look at this beautiful man go to John Kennedy show always Irish tell Mike singer sent you this is what on Twitch you do is called a raid you send your community who was watching over to the next guy so go go over to always Irish all right we're gonna end it there we're gonna end it about Den Brock he talked about Den 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