Published: Sep 04, 2024
Duration: 00:36:36
Category: Entertainment
Trending searches: nick martinez
[Music] W West Jim West desper r rer no you don't want surprise [Music] mother w w West hey welcome to the podcast thank you guys so much Nick sa Martinez sure oh come on man don't you that's the right name I I respond to it dude I'm terrible with names and it's a ban of my existence um dude I know you guys for real I don't want to you know I don't want to beir you can say it you guys [ __ ] rule you guys got me through the sweatiest period of my life easily I would just me and my friends would just wax up a 4x4 like post just skateboard like board slide it and [ __ ] seventh grade is all head boners it was [ __ ] weird [Laughter] but no you guys [ __ ] Ru dude thanks for doing this I was like genuinely stoked I don't get stoked on a lot of stuff and I saw that come through my email and I was like oh yes please that's so nice to hear so seventh grade like for context was that late 90s or yes yeah late 90s yeah cuz my older brothers they graduated like 96 98 and I was like four years younger than them but yeah it was like it was for real like I I mean you guys obviously are older than me but you know you don't really look it but I'm aging rapidly um but yeah it was like that [ __ ] was crazy dude just be like bopping around seventh grade doing your thing and all of a sudden someone hits you with I I had the blue album the self-titled album first and then I was just like dude this is crazy we were just that one song down it was allegedly about making out right well he mentions making out so but the funny thing the lore associated with you guys was so funny was like everyone be like yeah dude they studied music actually at the jewel yard and I'd be like yeah obviously I can tell dude they're definitely Jew like in seventh grade like yeah obviously but yeah we'd all think about making out we'd be like I can't wait to [ __ ] make out dude it's gonna be so sick well it's so funny because we just played this spot called interlockin which is like the juliard for high school kids and um the the chick I made out with in a dark hallway I went to Interlock in when we met in summer camp and she was telling me about this other camp and it sounded really prestigious and it was like so we were just there and it was one of those full circle moments yeah it was yeah I did not know that this is news to me that's news to you well was summer that was that was my dark hallway make out but then you went to the other summer camp no no she went no yeah we we played there 311 played they have an Ampitheater and it brought back this story I know I'm trying to figure out if you made out to make a full circle you got there where was the makeup that was was in Nebraska it was in Lincoln Nebraska D that's awesome music camp and and she was a violinist what those were the days yeah dude that was sick making out before you knew about anything else was like does it get better than this and you're like yeah it turns out it absolutely stabilizes your life the rest of it that's a good reference point well dude that's [ __ ] awesome man so you got you guys have been touring for what like 20 30 how long you guys been touring for since 93 what yeah what's the secret to the staining power dude a lot a lot of uh a lot of like bands just completely disintegrate how do you do we just don't say no to anything heroin we we don't say no yeah we do say no to that we don't say no to gigs and we don't break up yeah like what's the secret to keeping a band together don't break up yeah true that's a good point how do you balance though what what do you think what's the force what's like the the centrifugal force that just pulls bands apart would you say U ego yeah you know people um digging in too hard on their position I mean you know we we we respect democracy and we have five band members so if if it ever needs to come down to a vote it's going to be you know two against three if it was four people and it was two against two then what do you do yeah so unfortunately we have an uh an odd number of band members and but most of the time we just talk things out and it doesn't really even come to a vote we just somebody gives in and we just keep talking till there's a consensus but if if there ever needs to be a vote and we respect that and just uh and also keep an attitude of gratitude knowing that we're super lucky to get to do this that we've stumbled on a really special lineup that uh we we're we're better together than we could do on our own and for sure just take good care of it damn that's awesome yeah because I feel like that's pretty rare when I mean you guys must have seen bands come and go and kind of implode and all that stuff yeah yeah and so many bands that we started out with have like one or two original members and then just side guys yeah that's that's what I saw on in your guys' tiny desk concert that's like I mean I don't recommend you guys going through comments they're all very nice but it was the big thing was like I can't believe they're all still together usually it's one guy and a couple Studio musicians and it's you know so it's sick man yeah it's awesome so how do you like when when you because you guys have come out with almost like an album a year with I you know give and take like here inning in the beginning it was like that I mean you know it's a mad Terror when you think about it um I and I thought we were on on a bender when we did that and then I looked at rm's discography and they did like six albums or something like that in their in their launch like per year and but it also made sense because they reached a status in a in a level that is very hard to come by but unless you put in Mad work man yeah you know so we did a lot of leg work obviously and um and then you know we continue to do it but um it's important to get back to the not imploding part to like have some space that you carve out you know yeah so and now we all have families at this point in time gotta when of the families starting how did how was that like balancing that whole thing well we thankfully we kind of waited did you really so you know I think maybe it's it's possible had we started families early that things might have gone a you know ay perhaps because there's tensions you know that can build and if you don't address them you know in a familial setting that can spill over into your professional you know life so oh yeah I know so I think we're a little wiser by the time we start families and you know how how old are your kids you don't let me ask you uh we're ours are about the same I have two he has three mine is almost uh well 14 12 okay sweet I got you so you guys really waited till the time was right yes I definitely can not have to wonder if I sewed enough Wild Oats you know what I mean like yeah yeah I was the first one to have a kid and I was 39 and now there's been 10 311 kids um so it's damn that's pretty cool yeah so you kind of broke the ice and everyone else was like yeah I'll do it the floodgates Offspring okay yeah they're tough man I have a two and a four-year-old and they're it's like and I I tour standup and it's it can be tough like kind of like deciding how much do you go away how much do you not you just feel like consumed with guilt and stuff yeah that's that's a thing but fortunately I I kind of did the math once and we're maybe gone like between a quarter and a third of the year it's it's not like we're gone all year so then when we're home like I'm super Hands-On dad kids ready for school and driving them to school and stuff in the morning so yeah yeah that makes sense and if you really take if you put it up against a 9 five it's like you're going eight hours a day almost every single day yeah versus you know going away here and there and I also tell myself too if I had to work in an office I probably would have burn my house down so there's that I would probably like beat my kid yeah you know what I mean so it's like being able to get like a creative Outlet helps me not be like a nightm to my kids and stuff yeah one of my kids said Dad I'm glad you're not a mister and I was like what are you talking about she was like you know like comes home in with a briefcase and a suit and glad you're not a mister cuz like take do those exist anymore I saw that on TV once that must have been nice to be like [ __ ] yeah I'm not a Mis you you get it I I was very good to and then now when I do something crazy I'm like would a mister do that they're like no that's you're proven a point dad you're not a mister that's awesome man yeah my my kids have got to come uh when I do stand up like we've if I have like an earlier show like sometimes do like a 4:30 matina show and they've got got to come do like just hop on stage and like mess with the mics while the staff's setting up and like they I feel like little kids love that like if you're telling them like I'm playing music or like they say I'm a funny man they're like you're a funny man you have to go be silly and I'm like yeah that's pretty much what I do yeah that's cool but that is tight man so how so you guys you started in 88 right um there was a previous incarnation of 311 called Unity that was 88 89 and then 311 started on June 10th 1990 okay so and then we were in Omaha for years putting out locally produced albums that started to do really well so we use those as demo tapes to get us the record deal then we moved out to LA in '92 put out the record in early 93 and I it we we definitely didn't like rocket cuz like what you were sharing about you know the the skateboards only like the really cool kids knew about us we were not in obiously obvious obviously obviously we were not in the main yeah so that's why we named our second album Grassroots cuz we're like we're not going to be embraced by the mainstream culture MTV was not touching us at that time yeah so we're just going to do it through touring and stick to our guns and kind of what essay was mentioned like RM also like you too like they stuck to their own weird sound and waited for culture to come to them so that's what we did too like we're just gonna keep doing our our rap rock with reggae even though that's not at all what's on the radio and then finally with the with down that culture came around to us but we just stuck stuck to our lane and it's cool too because you already had like Dude music might be an all-time album dude like I it's still I'll listen to it still today and I'm like God damn dud it's so good all the production on that insane like Eddie offord was the one who touched the knobs there and you know he was this eccentric British guy from prog Rock World do he worked with like yes and emers Lake and Palmer and he'd worked with John Lennon and stuff so he had a ton of stories yeah that's pretty cool and it was just this very sweet English gentleman prototypical right and and and US yeah what were you guys like early on were you guys like good boys bad boys what was going on um smoking weed constantly around the clock that's what's up that's what's up dude respectable kits yeah so that was that was your so you guys were just like smoking weed I'm guessing that kind of like usually gateway to mushrooms LSD like what was that was that kind of was it just the weed um ecstasy there you go ecstasy don't forget that Jack Daniels um nice you guys kept it within like a very I always say that is the best like keeping it within the sphere of like weed some alcohol you know obviously some ecstasy and maybe some mushrooms and a but that's good so you guys were able to keep that do you guys have like I obviously maybe private issues but like any public like meltdowns with cocaine any stuff like that or did you guys keep it just kind of tight the whole time well me personally I've decided that I'm better off sober so there you go it works for me a little caffine is fine but but that's it um but everybody's in general has kind of matured and and cleaned up their ax so there's no problems in that Arena anymore yeah you get to a certain age I used to smoke a lot of weed and it just you get to a certain age and you're like what the [ __ ] am I exactly I'm a my kid and I'm bugging out I'm like I can't do this right now it does smell like weed in here so was that wasn't me wasn't me no I'm scared of it now dude like you know I sound like an old guy but you see like the [ __ ] weed is like 47 literally I saw one other was 42% like I don't need that man well the weed back in the day was like very seedy very weedy I mean it was it was like a joke I know Snap Crackle Pop I honestly think I could smoke a whole pound of it wouldn't do anything to me now but yeah it's like that's cool so I mean I just think it's cool because a lot of especially in entertainment there's this whole other thing there's like you know there's your core business which is like touring selling tickets albums all that stuff and then there's like let's say forces of like Fame Fortune all of that other stuff and I I really feel like that can have like such a [ __ ] brutal effect on people but it seems like you guys kind of just were like all right let's just throw fun shows let people have fun keep doing our stuff and obviously I notice you're very like you know gratitude all and I think it I think it's working that's [ __ ] awesome man because you don't see it you only see you only see the stories that that become like the ones that get like glorified are like and then they were doing this and it all fell apart and everything turned to [ __ ] and it's like I always wonder like why does that happen I'm always I'm always curious when people are making millions of bucks like where's where's all the destru the seeds of Destruction come from well I think and again like you know we didn't have it I think he was alluding to that at the beginning you know we the success didn't wasn't there initially you know so it was uh it took time and then yeah you you you figure out [ __ ] this took a lot of effort to get here bro you know like yeah that makes sense it's not going to you know ruin it so how old were you guys when things started really popping off you weren't you guys weren't we were young yeah I say you guys weren't old at all no 25 26 that's that's that's that's better than like 19 21 but still that's pretty young man or super young yeah yeah so how what was that what was like the big moment when you're like holy [ __ ] this is kind of getting out of control was it the blue album or well it was when you were hearing your music coming from other cars like on the street you know yeah and like yeah I remember maybe we should move I remember once we were doing a gig at at the whiskey on sunset's trip and I heard a car pull up with a ver with Grassroots and it wasn't even out yet like there like somehow they had gotten an advance copy of it and they were trading it all cuz there was just so much demand that they were like damn you know stolen our music somehow yeah [ __ ] that's kind of nuts so how did you so when you when you guys first came out you're saying you're sending stuff to radios and they were like nah like what was there big cuz you you guys said you had like local well it was like we weren't the sound of the time like you know when we came out grunge was like you know yeah on the radio that was like alternative rock yeah and we weren't really grungy at all you know maybe a track here there but not like a whole album yeah I know what you mean of a Vibe you guys were ahead of your time though because then like you know quote unquote rat metal became just like blew up like right after kind of grunge fell pretty much it was rat metal became huge so you guys were right in time you guys were right in time yeah and it's it's really awesome to see um next Generations of bands that grew up on us like the guys from 21 Pilots tell me that once um this drunk chick came up to them after a show and was like you guys sound like a mixture of 311 and 311 and and they were like great we'll take it we'll take it but and I'm friends with the guys from Turn Style and you know they grew up on us too so it's it's really cool to see you know passing it on as we you know were influenced by so many bands too so it's just our all part of a big kind of family tree yeah what what were your guys' influences actually now I'm kind of curious about that well when we met like he kind of got me into Bad Brains like I knew a Bad Brains but I didn't really listen so he was like we're listening to bad bra we cranked it and then um but as like as a band you know Jan's addiction was a big band for 311 you know I think we all saw them together helmet was another fish bone Peppers gotcha have and you guys I'm sure you guys have met all those guys peppers and all that stuff yeah we played with them a few times yeah for for the big um turn of the Millennium the night 1999 yeah Remember December 31st everyone was going to lose all their money did you guys lose all your money back then it took my whole family out we played with the chil peppers that night at the at the Forum so that was like kind of the coolest gig that we we could have had that's pretty cool yeah [ __ ] yeah man so what's your guys's plan now what's the plan going forward OB just staying shredded staying ripped obviously got the order ring monitoring all making sure everything's okay what do you think about all this monitoring going on do you have feelings about it or what do you think he Tak care of himself true a lot of people are negative a lot of people get Negative they see the order they go come on man I don't want to see that stuff do you want do you want the data or are you against the data uh no I mean at home when I run I have you know obviously my phones in my pocket and all I don't I'm not obsessed about tracking you know but yeah I mean it's great there's so much information these days right true so if you can tap into it tap into it if you want you know true damn you guys are too chill I'm trying to see if you guys will turn on each other but it be it becomes like a thing man when you get older it's like you do have to take the helm on some regard like you said you're running you're doing a bunch of other stuff I'm sure it's like it's tough man you get older it's like it go it gets away from you fast dude oh absolutely man like it's well what we do you have to it's it's it is a it's Sport and it's it's all season long that's true too yeah like you can't go home and just chill hang on the couch oh we're going to go out in a a week you know yeah you can't you can't just show up at the Super Bowl without training like you have to be ready I'm I'm guessing you guys have a pretty Lively live show so yeah you I didn't think about that you can't if you like if you just like took time and chilled out you'd be on stage like oh dude absolutely crazy no you're yeah well and that might be another reason why a lot of you know bands kind of just crumble because of of the stress of touring you know yeah how do you guys deal with that though well working out preparing lifestyle you know whoa yeah eat good I I like take a nap after soundcheck you know so like I sleep in like I just woke up about 15 minutes before we came here damn it's got to be weird that's got to be crazy it's it's where we work nights yeah and it's hard to get after the adrenaline of a show it takes hours to like flush that out and get ready that crushes me in uh doing comedy clubs you know you're doing a club it's packed then you just leave and go back to your room and it's silent you're just in your hotel room just kind of like oh I love that I like it but your body's flooded with adrenaline so do I I dude I get right out I go right back to my room but your body's just flooded with adrenaline you're just sitting there just like I just take melatonin and wait till I feel heavy and I'm like nice pass out what's crazy is that in the in the wild times of the early 2000s and late 90s we would party so late go to sleep when the sun is coming up uhuh and then wake up at like one smoke weed and do sound and like we battle yeah what games are you playing back then soulcaliber Mortal Kombat just the street fighting games broe Fu you my man so [ __ ] fun breaking controllers when you when you lose dude waking up smoking weed and playing video games and then doing a concert party all night it's you guys CRA you guys have cracked the code life you guys have cracked the code dude yeah it's so [ __ ] tight I really think you guys have figured it out man you guys seem like you know you have like you have normal fruit say it fruitful lives delete this episode we don't want anyone else to know this done have have you seen um in terms of like being around entertainment have you do you have any thoughts on kind of like how people kind of manage like levels of Fame and notoriety and like how to like kind of live with it without it kind of I guess throwing you for a loop well you know you mentioned don't read the comments and that's kind of that's kind of a good thing like don't Google yourself because there's people that are going to be mean yeah you know um and I think the fact that we weren't immediately embraced um made it tough yeah right you guys got thick skin already and we looked inside the circle feelings what he said that makes sense you kind of you got to keep like a tight because it is true especially with the internet now it's like you especially having like families like I you know I'm I have my life with like my kids then there's like me on a [ __ ] computer screen just getting all kinds of whatever like yeah great [ __ ] this guy sucks he's the worst right and then like I'll catch myself being almost more concerned about like you know my digital rendering with the comments on the line and I'll be like with my kids I'm like what am I doing dude this is sick this is disgust you know it really does need to be like it's such a hard thing to sever because it's you but it's also not you in a sense if that makes sense yeah they know he's not a mister true true true that there's a m thing to worry about I'm a [ __ ] mister I think so I guess I'm trying to think what other questions I have so you guys you did the you guys are in it for the long haul what's the plan do you guys have like a you have the cruise too by the way were you guys the first ones who started doing kind of like the one of them but not the first one of them yeah like at first they were called like Blues cruises so there was like kind of a thing with blues bands to go and and then they they contacted us and we like we think your band would be perfect for this and then it turned out to be awesome we're doing our seventh one coming this eth eth eth there you go DN so we rotate one one earlier this year we did 311 day which is our big kind of convention in Vegas and then the next spring a cruise so they're like destination it wouldn't have worked in the early days of 311 because you know they're high school kids that don't have the money to go and the fan base isn't really built yet no it's true yeah you gota be like ask your parents come on get out there yeah my uh so my cousin's husband I think he's been on it multiple times oh yeah shout out flick dude yeah he's he's a mega fan of you guys but he he swears by the cruise he said the cruise sick you would like initially when we approached I'm like that sounds awful you know as soon as I heard I didn't know it existed until years ago and I heard about I'm like obviously dude that sounds like such a good idea and and it's turned into a a [ __ ] ton of fun yeah it is so much fun so where do you guys go where's what's like the crew destination usually we're going to Nassau this time and one other destination something it they we keep switching it up it's always in the Caribbean how many shows do you usually play on the cruise is it like like three two to three yeah oh that's nice and then they can stop and get off and then come on there's like a concert that's a [ __ ] that's a cool idea and bunch of other cool bands yeah that's awesome comedians nice yep well it's pretty cool bring me out to see yeah man and tonight you guys got the you guys are at the Moody Center the is that what it's called it's outside wait outside outside yeah you guys are playing outside tonight yeah you guys going be [ __ ] sweating your balls off dude it's 105° today yeah it's hot so joke out there nice man yeah oh that makes you're at the movie Moody Amphitheater I think or whatever it's called yeah hell yeah man well nice what else uh what what what were like give me some of the major lessons you guys have gleamed from your years and years and years well I was just going to mention that you know we we have a new album right on that uh is coming out this I was going to ask you that I saw the single I was curious if you had the album so that I think one thing we want to do is put up music a little bit more frequently um but you know the pandemic kind of slowed everything down and we were just kind of scrambling to even stay connected with our fans we were doing like live streams from our studio playing music and Grassroots and everything in its entirety um but we're super excited about this new album and I would just you know encourage younger artists to play out as much as possible because it's like live music is the most important thing it can't be replicated by you know a studio artist you it's it's like a tradition that's gone back 100 thousand years you know rythmic music goes back that far melodic music maybe 50,000 years so we're part of that tradition of one set of guys plays an instrument the other the other people dance and you know what I mean it's it's it's just very important to play live a lot so that's kind of one piece of advice I always just take every gig yeah you know that's awesome play are you familiar with uh Harry neelen yeah apparently he never played live that was the bane of his existence he had like a zillion albums but he he could never play live too nervous nervous yeah there's a doc on him right yeah yeah he was too nervous he was so good he just couldn't play Live it's kind of tragic yeah the guy from XTC too at one point said done with live cuz he had a panic attack and he was like I am done and that was a big influence that's that's a really good group but damn um and I think I at one point did kind of struggle with a bit of anxiety and then you know I just needed to learn learn tools to deal with it yeah you know walk towards the fear like yep you know can't walk away from it I I have panic attacks on stage doing stand up like five times a year it's nothing I just eat them I just sit there I'm like I'm gonna die I'm gonna have a heart attack and I'm like all right whatever BR yeah here we go I'm gonna forget that's one things it's like I'm gonna forget everything that that like thought is just an absolute warm like a brain warm like I'm gonna forget everything everyone staring at you and you're like oh it's happening I knew this you know but you just got to and I think having the Mantra of like stop I'll know what to do when I get there just trusting that you're going to know what to do when you get there and then it kind of is a way to end that I think you're right it's it's in you and it's just the questioning of is it in me creates that that feeling of panic just stop I'll know what to do when I get there it's a good move it's a good call what do you think about that well for me personally it's just I just try to stay in the moment at all times like you know I I kind of grew up performing I was I was in musical performances in school Etc so it was something that and in my family too it's like we all kind of performed and uh um but I remember our first like Big Show we did it was in Omaha before we were to embark on our Trek out to LA and we played uh our biggest show in to date it was in front of like 2,000 fans in elaha and I'm like holy [ __ ] I'm I going to do this this you know this is serious yeah this is like this is next level um but yeah you just you you do it and and we we learned it together essentially you know that's true it wasn't like it wasn't like a yeah SOLO axe or whatever and trying to figure it out or getting over these humps obstacles Etc um but to to back to your point I think you place a lot of those in front of you you know like for me I try not to look at the set list while we're performing because I have on occasion looked at a song and then I'm like start think how's that how's that go again you know so it's just kind of there for like a reference point but I rarely look at it I do sometimes like how many [ __ ] songs we have left yeah you know other than that but yeah no that's a that is a uh that is a fun thing to think about because it's like especially with anxiety which again if you're doing any kind of performance even if you're like going into a meeting at work there's always anxiety you know and it's like the way I think about it is I think a lot of people take a pretty I think unhelpful approach to it today where it's like you know just like just silence that part of your brain with a pill which you know some people need whatever but there's a lot of people where it's like if I were to listen every time I got like supremely nervous about a thing if I were to not do it dude like I don't I can't imagine what my life would be like you know what I'm saying like like for stand up my heart was leaping out of my chest when I first started if I had been listening like no you're right let me just not I'm scared do that right right right dude and it makes sense cuz it's literally built in our body to keep us from like genuine physical threats but when it comes to like oh here I want to perform and they're not going to like eat you it's just kind of like you know it's kind of amazing to think of like the lives that lay on the other side of like pretty intense personal fear yeah and I think we're told kind of to be like yeah yeah listen to that dull yourself you know get away from that the worst advice to have like exposure therapy like let's go in wards that thing that's making us really uncomfortable last week's version of this American life has some really cool stories about like a guy that gets a concussion a woman that gets a concussion and then everything loud bright like for years and she just kept avoiding those until she met a doctor that was like go towards those most uncomfortable things and then that broke the the hold that it had on her so to me I always just you know walk towards the fear or discomfort whatever it is you got to keep pushing into it or else it's going to rule you yeah exactly I I went to um I I studied to be a social worker like you know in between doing standup and like I went to go I was like maybe I want to be a therapist I was kind of bouncing back and forth but I would bring up exposure therapy in my social work school and they're like that's abuse I'm like no it's not it's like demonstrated to be like 83% effective like better than a lot of other forms of therapy for anxiety and they'd be like that's kind of rugged it's like well so is life like you know you got to do stuff that is scary and you know you can't always just be like oh I feel very comfortable and say like it doesn't work that way man totally it does not work that way today oh man dude don't get me started I was in school with a bunch of like 22 year olds being like actually and I was like you guys have no [ __ ] idea what you're talking literally but that is cool man it really pumps me up to see you guys are able to kind of like again just be in a space that is you know can be very you know uh threatening to people's well-being and and just to stick to the mission of like you know we have our I think mentioned like our quarter Circle let's just focus on each other our fames obviously the 311 babies and just you know keep the blinders on eye on the prize and don't get caught up in all the [ __ ] and the hype and just blast through let's go coach awesome man that's I'm saying come on yeah cuz that was the thing is basically we had our our little gang so we could just walk into a venue and just we had each other so it just supplemented our confidence a lot like I don't know how solo artists do it but for us it was it was just great to have that crew and our road crew there and it was just like a big family so we'd just go in there with swagger and blow the place up it's awesome dude I think uh I think I don't know is there anything else you guys want to talk about you got you got the new album coming out I mean I think people should also dig into your entire disg discography because it's I didn't know how many albums you guys had I knew you had like a decent amount but I like looked at it like three days ago I was like what the [ __ ] these guys are releasing album after album it's insane were you were you like conceptualizing the live albums or albums for live shows more so or you just kind of like putting them out for like a listening how like the blue album was meant to be like what are songs that just kick ass live but then the one after that transistor was just more experimental and Studio trickery so um you know different phases you do sometimes in our history like yeah well what are they going to like love to listen to that type of thing you know what's going to get hype and and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't yeah you think do you ever do you ever have a song where like the crowd's about to go [ __ ] nuts and you play it and they're like all right last that's part of the thing though man like the same thing with standup you're like this joke's about the it's going to kill it's going to kill bro never just looks at you like why did he just disclose that detail about himself that's not funny that's disturbing you're like moving on yeah that is a process though you got you throw it out and eventually you're like okay wow this one what was the what was the song that like absolutely murdered that is there anything that surprised you guys that you were like damn I didn't think this thing would be the one well down was a hit before it was a hit like when we played it but it was also just the Zeitgeist of our fan Dum building you know moment where it was just like the pot's about to blow you and that but that that was a song that we when we played it was a hit already you know and it wasn't even on radio yet you right yeah there's anything that like on the other way where you're like this is you're like whatever about the song and it turned out to be popular you have you always had a sense like well with Amber we were we were so used to putting out hard singles and worrying about like the male part of our F fan base but then that song really was just like a sleeper that oh yeah it's classic as well so you're saying that that was not for that was for the ladies you're saying I mean it's it's more of a romantic song but then we' have like these huge Meatheads would be like Amber is my favorite song it does roll dude it's awesome it does that song for real does something to you when you're like just sitting there you're like God this is so [ __ ] nice dude my my energy is definitely ude it was our first chill single ever we'd always had rockers before that like Crush too that must it yeah it was like number one for a really long time that's awesome you did it for the babes what did the bab say afterwards the bab's like thank you or Amber is the color but it's having a moment now with like Teenage ticktockers a lot of people making videos of them and a lot of times they use the slightly sped up version that makes it a little bit like sound like Chipmunks but whatever brat baby they'll probably doing it so they can like fit it into like you know I noticed people do that now online where it's like they'll just speed themselves up talking at like three times a speed you're like this is already bad for me enough I don't I don't need this this fast just more information faster right get it in well dude thank you so much and where's uh where can people get tickets you guys are on tour right now work can people get tickets for the rest of your guys everything's at 311.com and we're heading over towards California and up the coast to Seattle and and then we've got various fly dates in the fall and we're going to Australia for the first time in a long time oh nice around Thanksgiving hell yeah man that's their summer too isn't it it'll just be starting yeah nice well dude thank you guys so much man this F appreciate it thank you guys thanks for the invite of course oh [Music]