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and her focus on pushing to impeach him a second time an altercation at Arlington National Cemetery New details about a clash between members of Donald Trump's campaign team and a cemetery official during a visit this week was the Trump team taking pictures where it should not be vice president KLA Harrison Governor Tim Walls kick off a bus tour through a key Battleground state after agreeing to do their first sit down interview right here on CNN k old one is out today I'm John Burman with Sarah Sider our Flagship morning show cnna news Central Starts [Music] Now breaking overnight brand new footage from January 6th of Nancy Pelosi her reactions as the Insurrection was unfolding and her Mission this morning the morning after to make sure Donald Trump would quote pay the price but first I want to play for you a never beeseen moment with her daughter who filmed it all Pelosi describing how she felt when that day was finally over you're done with Donald Trump how does it feel just feel sick that what he did to the capital and to the country today so he's got to pay a price from that you'll remember so many members of Congress including an had to be whisked out of there to safety Pelosi the next morning in a candid call with staffers then worked on a speech to address the nation her Focus then solely on Donald Trump wait a minute let me just say this I think our Focus has to be on the president let's not different our I've never like son I think he should have been gone a long time ago ma'am the Press is very focused on this Schumer just Schumer just now a political breaking news alert that Schumer is going to fire the Senate sergeant in-arms I don't yeah it's immaterial the heads are rolling is what we're saying well I I I don't want to have it on a par with the Insurrection and the impeachment and the rest of that if they ask I will respond but I'm not doing it on a part because it's a diversionary tactive understood understood CNN senent Safari is joining us now uh what more are we seeing in this video you really get the sense of fear and urgency and frustration and pain after what happened on January 6th that day yeah that's absolutely right Sarah this video really does a good job of capturing the emotion uh the chaos and the real-time reaction of many lawmakers including speaker of the house then Speaker of the House Nancy py as the capital was under attack and one of the most striking moments I thought was this video where she's rushed through the halls of Congress you see her walking cck quickly escorted by her security staff she's also accompanied by senior staff there and she's uh lamenting oh where's the National Guard why weren't we more PR prepared for this level of violence as it is unfolding around her in the capital and you can just sense her anger and her frustration here she is speaking to her Chief of Staff we have responsibility Terry we did not have any accountability for what was going on there and we should have this is rid ridiculous why weren't the National Guard there to begin with they thought that they had sufficient resour there's not a question of how they had they don't know they clearly didn't know and I take responsibility for not having them just prepare for more because it's stupid that we should be in a situation like this cuz they thought they had what they thought these people would act civilized they thought these people gave a damn and that video clip ends with her saying shame on us now other parts of the video shows the days after the attack on January 7th there's a picture of her excuse me video of her in her office convening a meeting with her team and you can clearly see on this clip here Sarah she's in her office there and over her is over her fireplace there is a shattered mirror other debris in her office of course when the writers came into her office during those attacks so again showing how the then speaker is operating after this violence that took place at the capital yeah I mean I remember seeing um some videos of her from her that her daughter was T happened to be taking that day why are we just seeing this video now that's a good question so this video was released by HBO and it was belongs to Alexandra Pelosi who was a filmmaker following her that day her daughter who was with her the days leading up to and after the attack we have seen some video of that um documentary uh but this is additional video that was unaired that was turned over by HBO to the house committee on in administration they requested that this video uh they are now a republican-led committee and they are looking into more of what the January 6 committee uh found they are trying to attempt to undermine what the committee found uh that's why we're seeing this now nearly 50 new uh minutes of video today s the video is is in very very interesting but it's very telling about how people felt uh who had to be whisked out of the capital there the sence ofar thank you so much appreciate it John all right this morning new details about the new superseding indictment in the federal election interference case against Donald Trump special Council Jack Smith needed a tweak it after the Supreme Court ruling that granted president's broad criminal immunity CNN's senior crime and Justice reporter Caitlyn pance is with us now some pretty notable differences in here yeah John it's a much shorter indictment now against Donald Trump Trump the same four charges but the justice department had to rewrite a lot of things take things out especially because the Supreme Court said you can't take a former president to trial criminally for things he was doing while he was wearing that hat of the presidency and so what they did in this superseding indictment so a Rewritten indictment they went back to the grand jury in federal court in Washington so the case against Donald Trump can continue on moving toward trial they took a bunch of things out specifically things where Donald Trump was directing or speaking with the justice department his top AIDS uh his Chief of Staff Mark Meadows when he was getting briefings about the fact there was no election fraud that was widespread that would have overturned the El election when he was being told that by federal officials Intel uh figures in his administration none of that can go to trial before the jury and so all of that is removed it's now focused on Donald Trump as a candidate and that the things he was doing after the election in that role so what now kayln well John there are going to be a number of arguments ahead of us and a lot of what is ahead of us looks to be something that still is in this language of the allegations against Donald Trump everything about vice president Mike Pence in this uh version the justice department is saying that Mike Pence in a lot of these conversations with Trump his running mate uh he he was the president of the Senate so not part of the administration and so that is something that is very likely going to have to be considered at length by multiple courts not just the trial judge coming up John Tanya chuckin but also the appeals courts does this part stay in the indictment do we hear more from Pence even as a witness in the proceedings in coming weeks we're going to get a little bit more information about how that all is going to play out uh very likely by the end of this week and then next week when there is a hearing scheduled in this case and I'm sure we will cover that extensively thank you as always for sharing your reporting and your Insight Caitlyn poads all right this morning KLA Harris and Tim Walts kicking off a bus tour through a key Battleground state where they will also sit down for their first joint interview of the campaign with CNN's Dana Bash new details this morning of a potential physical altercation that took place during Donald Trump's visit to Arlington National Cemetery this is Hallowed Ground were they taking photos where they should not be 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it's here with Dana Bash yeah Sarah 900 PM Thursday is the big event and it occurs as the candidates embark on a bus tour through the Battleground state of Georgia the conversation will present the vice president's first chance to explain her positions on various domestic and foreign policy issues during the campaign so a chance to really lean into concrete policy she'll also have the opportunity Sarah if she chooses to explain how some of her positions now may differ from President Biden what else do we know about the campaign strategy um in Georgia obviously Georgia is the state that had 11,700 some odd votes uh that Biden won uh to win the state so what do we know about their their strategy there the bus tour is going to include a mix of rural and urban stops uh they're expected to focus on kitchen table issues following a whole slew of economy related ads this week and then it will conclude with a big rally in Savannah on Thursday the goal is to to drive down the margins by which Republicans win in some of these rural counties even if they don't win those counties outright and the bus tour also offers them an opportunity to introduce Governor walls to rural voters see how he plays in these communities they lean into his upbringing in Rural America his military background and his days as a football coach as a way to relate to some of those voters in south Georgia and just a bit later we're going to be talking to someone from Savannah uh who governs that state as a representative we will ask him a bunch of questions Eva mcken got to say love the style the glasses the earrings the hair the dress very cute this morning thank you for joining us appreciate it and you can watch vice president KLA Harris and Governor Tim Wall's interview with danab bash tomorrow night as you heard from Eva at 9 Eastern right here on CNN all right ahead an incident at Arlington what Donald Trump's team is saying this morning after allegations of a physical altercation there and tragedy on the field a 13-year-old has died after being injured during football practice a ruling that Supreme Court Justice katangi Brown Jackson says has her concern I was concerned about uh A system that appeared to provide immunity for one individual under one set of circumstances when we have a criminal justice system that had ordinarily treated everyone the same that interview is CBS News and to be fair as Ellie hoding who you're looking at right now notes she said a lot more in the actual descent that she did on T pretty mild compared to what she actually wrote at CNN senior legal analyst Ellie hoding is here let's just very quickly because this happened yesterday and you've talked about it fairly extensively go over the big differences between the superseding indictment and the original indictment there's stuff that's just not there now yeah so to give people a sense of scope here the original indictment was 45 pages the new indictment is 36 pages and I would say about that a third or so of the allegations have been taken out most importantly Donald Trump's interactions with doj he tried to get the justice department to sort of support his bogus claims of election fraud that's been removed from the indictment as have several of Donald Trump's talks with his White House advisors basically what Jack Smith is trying to do is conform the indictment to the immunity ruling that Justice Jackson was just talking about and cast everything Trump did as not his official act as president which would be immune but as private act as a candidate who gets to decide in when if they did enough here to comport with the Supreme Court ruling ultimately the Supreme Court so here's fny how that works yeah right it'll always come back to them here's what'll happen so Jack Smith has now voluntarily pulled part of his case out now starting later this week we're going to go through the process where the parties argue about it Donald Trump's team is not going to say wonderful we're happy with the superseding indictment as is they're going to say all of its immune and then judge chuckin is going to have to sort it out but whatever she decides Trump has the right to appeal to the mid-level court of appeals and then to ask the Supreme Court to take it importantly before trial which is why if trial happens in this case ever it's not going to be for quite a while so not before the election to be 100% clear I think the tenor of the entire discussion the last few months about all the cases about Donald Trump has been oh if he wins the election slash when he wins the election all these cases go away well the election looks a lot different now potentially than it might have a couple months ago when Joe Biden was still running Trump could lose yeah what happens if he loses to these cases it's such a good reminder of the stakes for Donald Trump the individual because if he wins he's president and these cases all go away or get put on indefinite long-term hold but if he loses he's going to have to contend with all four of these cases now the case we've been talking about the January 6 case that'll take a while to go through the process we just discussed but I think it will ultimately make it to trial but you and I going to be standing here in 2026 possibly talking about that trial the other federal case the classified documents case currently dismissed Trump filed or excuse me Jack Smith filed a brief a couple days ago asking to revive it and I think he'll win on that I think he'll get that case reinstated but again we're looking at trial late 2025 2026 I think both state cases are in serious trouble uh obviously the Manhattan case is over we have potentially sentencing in a few weeks but I think there's going to be a major appeal issue I think there's a good chance that case gets reversed and the Georgia case I think we've seen the last of I think that case is going to get but these Federal cases if Donald Trump loses he's facing serious trials and he'll have a lot of time on his hands if he's not president yeah if he loses I think it's very likely he's going to have two Federal trials late 2025 early 2026 one other point I want to make here because it's so extraordinary in the discussion over the last 24 hours about Jack Smith filing the superceding indictment in the federal election case in the classified documents case the judge you know Eileen canid has ruled the special counsil is a sham to begin with you know can't exist constitutionally so you've got one judge saying this whole thing doesn't count while the other case and a parallel term is going on Full Steam so there are some interesting tactics strategy at Play Here by Donald Trump's team remember he's got two different federal indictments both of them brought by special counsel the actually the first one that dropped was the DC One the judge chuckin case Donald Trump never made this argument about special counsel to judge chuckin instead he waited and made it only to judge Canon on the docs case and he won with her now again I think that's going to be reversed but I think what we have here is a pretty clear case of Judge shopping I mean as between the two judges it seems quite clear Trump's team said let's hold off on the DC case we don't think we have a favorable judge there let's bring it to judge Canon down in Florida they were right but again I do think she's going to be reversed it just shows what a real outlier it is judicially that that that ruling compared to everything else we've ever seen I guess one upside of having multiple indictments is you do get to pick which judge you like better for certain issues if there was an upside to great to see you thank you very much Sarah all right this morning we're learning new details about an incident that turned physical at Arlington National Cemetery during Donald Trump's visit there on Monday it happened while Trump was in section 60 the burial site for recent us casualties Trump suggesting on true social that the problem stem from his campaign's use of Photography CNN's Elena TR has more on that uh from Washington what what happened here right well Sarah so a lot of back and forth from both sides the Arlington National Cemetery but also the Trump campaign on what exactly did happen but what we know is that uh some people who worked at the cemetery had blocked members of Donald Trump's team members of his campaign on Monday from attending and participating in some of the wreath ceremony uh when Donald Trump was laying some of the wreaths on Monday to honor the 13 Fallen US service members who were at uh kabal's Abbey gate during the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan now I'm going break down some of this for you so the big question here is about whether or not Donald Trump was able uh to you know participate in partisan events as the cemetery calls it uh while while at that visit particularly in this area called section 30 now we did hear from Donald Trump he posted as you mentioned Sarah on Truth social and as you said he did seem uh to argue that perhaps this was because of photography this is what um he wrote on on true social and they also incl included a um a post or a letter from the families who said that they had supported this effort he had said quote we had given our approval for president Trump's official videographer and photographer to attend the event ensuring the sacred moments of remembrance were respectfully captured and so we can cherish these memories forever and that is from the families of some of the service members who uh were killed during that Afghanistan withdrawal a couple years ago now I will also add that the cemetery for their part had said uh in a statement to CNN that federal law prohibits political campaign or election related activities at Arlington National uh at Army National military cemeteries excuse me so that's where some of the dispute is here now I will say NPR was the first to report some of this they had said that they had heard from someone at Arlington National Cemetery who uh said that there was a physical altercation between members of the cemetery staff and Donald Trump's campaign Trump's campaign has pushed back on that they said that there was no physical altercation however uh a member did block them from participating this now we also did hear from Chris levita this is uh Donald Trump's co- campaign manager he's also someone who is a veteran he said quote president Trump was there on the invitation of the abig gate gold star families to honor their loved ones who gave the ultimate sacrifice for their country for a Despicable individual to physically prevent president Trump's team from accompanying him to this solemn event is a disgrace and does not deserve to represent the followed grounds of Arlington National Cemetery so again Sarah a lot of back and forth here I do think the big takeaway is that this was a moment that of course Donald Trump's team they recognized was a solemn moment this was something to honor the family members of the Fallen Soldiers and has been a bit tainted Now by this dispute over whether or not Donald Trump had violated federal law uh by making this a political event Sarah we we also Beyond this and that's Chris Lev's video there um of him laying down those flowers um we also saw this um very friendly interview with Dr Phil and president Trump what did you learn from that right well uh we've seen Donald Trump has sat with Dr Phil before and you're right it is a friendly interview it's always interesting to see him uh when he's being sitting down with people that he feels like he can be more candid with he's more comfortable with that is kind of the vibe that we got from this interview last night but at one point Donald Trump did uh talk about his attempted the attempted assassination on him back in Butler in in July and he seemed to hint that he believes that Joe Biden and kamla Harris be some responsibility for that take a listen to what he said okay Sarah so first of all I just want to be clear that there is no evidence whatsoever that uh President Joe Biden or vice president kamla Harris have tried to purposely um you know make it more difficult with as it relates to Secret Service Staffing for Donald Trump but but the point about the rhetoric is something we actually have heard Donald Trump and many Republicans argue that it was the rhetoric and the language that Democrats use against him that contributed to this person attempting to shoot Donald Trump and so uh a lot to unpack there I think you're going to probably continue to hear some of this and as we know as we move closer to November a lot of these attacks are getting more more personal more nasty um and that's kind of where Donald Trump laid this yesterday all right elen train thank you so much on bman all right so Sarah as you know vice president Harris and Governor Tim Waltz are beginning a bus tour of Georgia today focusing on southeastern Georgia and one thing you will notice about this area a lot of red a lot of Republican counties where they're going and that is by Design why well you will remember the margin in Georgia in 2020 when Joe Biden did win was only 11,000 votes that's not a lot in 2016 Donald Trump won by 21,000 votes so Democrats really if you think about it made up 220,000 votes where did they get all those votes well everyone knows that in fton County around Atlanta Democrats tend to do really well you can see Joe Biden won here by 250,000 votes Hillary Clinton did win there but only by about 180,000 votes so a 70 vote 70,000 vote margin there you might think oh Democrats can make up all the ground they need just around Atlanta that's not really the case they've got to keep the margins pretty slender even in some of these Republican areas so if you think about the southeast what they need to do is focus on for instance Effingham County here you can see Donald Trump beat Joe Biden there by about 16,000 votes Hillary Clinton actually had it closer she only lost by 13,000 votes so Democrats want to try to keep these margins down in a way so they have less work to do in the very blue Atlanta area we know that the Harris wall team is going to end up in chattam County that's where Savannah is this is a county they won in 2020 you can see by about 25,000 votes that is a stretched out lead from 2016 where Hillary Clinton won just by about 177,000 votes so as they go County to County Sarah it really is all about the margins can I just say that was so impressive John you know what John King Eat Your Heart Out John burman's the man Magic I'm very impressed with how smooth that was there's no way I could have done that smooth with a smooth thank you John joining us now is CNN political commentator and Democratic strategist Maria Cardona and Republican strategist and former RNC communications director Doug high thank you both for being here Doug's in person Maria what what's going on like what you don't like me anymore you're just not going to show up in the studio I'm I'm sorry I missed the train I missed the train I'm sorry text messages she sends about you just I know they're awful it's true but they're correct um let let us talk about something that we just heard um from Donald Trump blaming KLA Harris and Joe Biden who you know president at the time of his attempted assassination Doug why is he doing this I I think the ultimate question is why that is the question it doesn't serve a real purpose I was I was in North Carolina um uh Sunday and Monday and I saw Donald Trump campaign ads and they were on message they talked about the economy they talked about prices the things that voters are talking about what he said on on Dr Phil is just sort sort of that grievance tour that doesn't win over new voters and turns away potential voters who maybe don't love Trump but they don't love Harris or the Biden Harris agenda or or Administration either those are the voters he needs to talk to and by going in these weird directions which he's done for years he limits his ability to do so uh Maria what did you make of this blame game that that happened um during that very friendly interview uh who we talked to before Dr Phil desperation Sarah that is exactly what's going on with the Trump campaign that's exactly what's going on with Trump they have not been able to land on any effective strategy or attack that has stuck to uh KLA Harris and Tim wall since they became the nominee for president and vice president and that is driving them crazy not only that but to go to Doug's point this is Donald Trump's go-to move his message or his his ads might be H help for for spee foree speech chicken m foreign fore get tell the yummy the m spee am for for speee speech spee foreign spee foree spee fore speeech speech