CC Sabathia - Cy Young Winner & World Series Champion - Episode 5

can already tell today is going to be a bit unhinged hello I am Kenny JD content creator nosy [ __ ] as well as Indie musician what's up man it's Sean pekas the ultimate dot connector and welcome to connect the dots connect the dots is an incredibly special set of conversations where we discuss not only what happens on the court in the booth or behind the scenes but also take an unfiltered look at stardom and culture you can't learn funny in school you can learn comedy I we get to know who people are what drives them inspires them motivates them makes them into fully fleshed out people a real humanistic look at those you know and love was a comedian I'll be a professional [Music] sugar that's we got edited shout outs to our partner C4 Smart Energy and prize picks love you you all hi everybody and welcome to another segment of Kenny's corner where today we're going to uh reflect back on our interview with CC Sabathia pretty cool interview right yeah it was one of the first ones we filmed here at rally yeah um and it was really interesting to talk to someone who started off his professional sports career so young mhm because that was the thing that stuck out for me the most because the idea that you're like fresh out of high school you're like 18 19 years old and they're like throwing buckets of money and influence and and people and it's like how do you digest that as a rising star and it was really interesting to see his Reflections on it now that he has kids now that you know he's retired um so yeah it was it was really inspiring I think one of the cool things that we did too were when we were able to talk to CC remember at that time show Otani hadn't been hadn't redone his like contract and he got picked up by the Dodgers and I think that was cool that c he uh forecasted that one of the teams that would probably be in the league with a Dodger so that was pretty cool too right to actually have that footage and stuff like that so we love that so I always love to hear people from a professional standpoint from a life standpoint um and it was a really cool conversation I think you guys will really enjoy it hello to a great start I am your co-host Kenny JD content creator I guess Indie musician and all around nosy [ __ ] who just likes to know why people are the way they are and how they got where they are I Love Ken I'm Sean pekos I'm co-host connecting to dots sorry for the inappropriate behavior before but you know I love K and through out hope out it's gonna get crazy me and Kenny gonna get crazy should we introduce our first guest yeah absolutely my guy man CCE Sabathia 3,000 strikeouts what else did you do see man lived a life yeah yeah W the World Series yeah yeah it's my brother it's kind of weird man kind of like doing this with you like an interview right feel stupid I forgot about everything you accomplished 10 seconds I know you did this too for a while for a living uh as a sort of a retirement job so uh what you got some points for us man what should we do man man just be yourselves you know what I mean I think that's what you know people love um you know hearing from people in just the regular conversations that they have I feel like podcasts um let you into the world of people that you normally wouldn't get to know or understand their stories yeah so I guess it's just going to have to be like us when uh we just sitting back from there talking [ __ ] absolutely absolutely what's up Kenny so one of the things that I was very curious about um being that this is our first episode and kind of connecting the dots making sense of the of the title is like we're excited to bring people from completely different walks of life I'm in the Internet space pekas is it well in all kinds of spaces but particularly was in the music space and then you are in sports or we're in sports and how all of those things have the central focus of focus like how we're able to do interesting and great things in uncommon ways um so I'm excited for all of us to like come together and and share the differences and and similarities and that but uh first I guess we could learn more about your story like how it how you started uh in the league what brought you there um what your motivations were stuff like that uh yeah so I got drafted um out of high school I was 17 um got drafted in the first round by then the Cleveland Indians now Cleveland Guardians um spent a year and a half in the minor leagues and uh you know I was in the big leagues I was uh Pro I was not probably I was the youngest player in the big leagues at the time when I first came up and how old exactly were you I was 19 um the The Following season when I actually pitched I I just had just turned 20 um and you know it was it was fun you know what I mean I you know I had some some good experience some bad experience I went through a lot of different things but I think the biggest thing for me um coming up so young is just having the vets that I had you know around me whether it was Ellis Burks or Matt lton or Ricky Gutierrez um you know even guys like you know Gary Sheffield um darl strawberry these guys were still in the league when I first came up and were able to help me transition from a kid really you know high school kid to a professional um it's something that you have to learn how to do and it took me a while you know it took me a minute um you know I was very immature didn't um really understand the magnitude of what I was getting myself into um but but luckily like I said I had those guys around and I think that's something that's kind of missing in the league now is vets I feel like um a lot of the league is just kids raising kids right now where you know the oldest guy most of the time on the team you know have six or seven years in and when I first came up it was guys with 15 20 years in the big leagues you know we just talked about that we were watching football the other day at St per right and we were talking about how like there's no real hierarchy anymore like you feel like where are those guys who could be in the in the clubhouse to be like the role model right and it's just like we feel like that a lot of that just going on around culturally right where the kids are just running wild in the street now and all different type of sports he's no real like person to help these kids no and I feel like that's why you get a lot of these kids whoever it is in every sport trying to build Brands before you know they can really build what they've built on the field I feel like um I feel like for me the way I built my brand is by being good on the field like make the main thing the main thing you know what I'm saying like if you're good at what you're good at then you'll be famous enough to do whatever you want to do off off the field so your breakfast like yeah that's what I'm saying so it was always for me I mean you know me I was always just completely focused on trying to win wasn't even focused on my career or what I was trying to accomplish or you know any 3,000 strikeouts or any of that stuff it wasn't like individual it was literally trying to win the World Series that was it and that was all I was focus on and yeah you owe me a ring too for that cuz you said give me the ring you know what I'm saying skip but I feel like I feel like that helped build my brand you know what I mean I feel like after retirement now I'm able to do a lot of different things that I want to do but because I I handle everything need to hand on field I think the one thing I know about like spending time with C is is he's he's really on that like he's a professional when it comes like focusing on one thing knocking that out but then sort of like doing everything on the side like that comes with it I think I think that that that's a real thing yeah would you say that you think that not to put words in your mouth or to start any chaos would would you think that you're seeing like a lack of passion from people who are in the game now no I don't think it's a lack of passion I think these kids um are very passionate and way more skilled than we ever were because because they they focus only on one sport you know you got basketball players that start playing basketball when they're four or five years old and that's the only thing they do so um no I just feel like it's it's more access to everything now you know I feel like in my era we grew up I didn't know what the [ __ ] Michael Jordan was doing you know what I'm saying we didn't know what he was doing people know what the [ __ ] John Mor and LeBron are doing every [ __ ] minute you know and people you know kids see that and want to be that and you mean like outside of the like out of the Court you can see what guys are doing yeah I had no idea what Michael Jordan was doing when he was off the court you know I could only see him on the court playing basketball maybe with Amar Rashad on [ __ ] you know what I mean like whatever they had Inside the NBA so now you have so much access to these guys that it makes kids want to be that instead of what the player actually is being a winner or achieving the team goal which is to be a champion like like for me it was all just seeing Michael Jordan dunk and shoot and win right you know so if I would have known he was playing golf and doing all this other [ __ ] I probably would have been into that too you know so it it changes your perspective when you have a lot of access to these guys you always felt like that from the beginning or when you went like to the Yankees and and then like spend some time with like some of the like you know other superstars like Jeter or or people like that or Andy pet want I know you really love no I always felt like that from the beginning because I had no idea I was coming to New York you know like I I never wanted to play for the Yankees so no I didn't I I like did everything I could not to [ __ ] come here everything I was trying everything I could but so for me it was like I I knew I had to make my mark on the field you know what I mean like cuz I'm in a small Market I'm in Cleveland I went to Milwaukee like I said I was planning on going to the West Coast so I knew that I had to be really great at my craft like to be able to to be famous off the field if that makes sense right cuz it's like no matter where you go you have to leave your mark regardless yeah and and the best way to Leave Your Mark is being great at what you do cuz I find I think what I find very interesting like you were talking about how young you were being thrown into a world like that and I'm sitting here thinking like when I was like 18 19 I wasn't a [ __ ] adult like I'm like theoretically adult and I was in many ways still very coddled by like you know like the college infrastructure so being thrown into you know this fast-paced life of professional sports money attention Fame like I I just couldn't imagine no it's it's it's a tough thing especially you know like I said I was 17 years old being from the hood being from the inner city it was like I hit the lottery you know like I'm 17 um you know I get drafted I get $1.3 million just just dropped in my lap you know what I mean like so I don't have any Financial you know like I no not problems I don't have any Financial like literacy I don't know we don't know anything you know what I'm saying so me and my mom were literally learning together how to manage all of this whether it was from family outside influences all this different stuff who do you trust in that exactly like it yeah it it was it was extremely hard to figure all of that stuff out my mom uh is the goat she was the rock like she we didn't sign with an agent she did my deal out of high school on her own cuz she didn't trust nobody she was like [ __ ] all these guys like I can look in baseball America and [ __ ] figure out what the like what your number should be yeah so she was she really kind of like took the bull by the horns and was like I'm crazy I never knew that yeah she was like I'm going to be in control of this as much as I can at the beginning you know until they got to a yeah but like when I first left home I mean you know I'm used to playing at high school so I go home in my uniform like my mom watches my clothes after the game like now I'm a professional I got to figure out you know shower shoes taking a shower after the game like I didn't even know how to like wash clothes on my own when I left home so it was like all those yeah it was like I was going to Walmart every three days and buying socks and draws and [ __ ] like it was crazy so like Old School Cleveland drug dealer it was [ __ ] up that's what drug dealers I was literally trying to figure all of that stuff out as a teenager so yeah I mean I mean you know my story I made a lot of mistakes and you know did a lot of different things that you know you probably shouldn't do but um you know I'm here and I'm better for it you know what's crazy like it's funny because this is weird for me because we do spend a lot of time like yeah one of my closest friends and our family's are tight and it's probably one of the reasons why I even made the transition from music into sports and the crazy thing cuz the one time I bought this car and he got in the car and he started making fun of it right I'm like y don't do that because you drive Rolls-Royce like but now I think about he's been driving the [ __ ] Rolls-Royce like 19 years old that's crazy that's what I always tell him yeah it's crazy think about that he's 41 now 43 43 and he's been driving [ __ ] rolls-royces since he's 19 yeah but he's not I'm like the exact opposite I'm exact opposite I made more money and just didn't want a new car really you from Detroit my car is from 2004 and if it's still moving I'm still driving it that's that's my kids that's my oldest my older two are like really F Frugal they're like they don't spend any money my oldest son dresses like Adam Sandler every day like he's just like [ __ ] like but my younger two so my younger two were born when I got this Yankee contract and they're [ __ ] I mean SI and Carter are expensive as hell like everything they have is [ __ ] high in like very high in so it's it's the contrast in between the two the two the two contracts they they great kids I don't know Detroit the Detroit and me just like I can't do it I just I just can't do it like my friend got in my car and she was like this is my biggest gripe with you I need you to do something about this this is this what kind of car is it it's a Dodge Durango oh I mean r on r on the side like 400 million miles I thought you had like a 04 Rolls-Royce Oh I thought you was say like Dad something like n you got to get out the Honda I just Durango I just like gently stole it from my dad just slow over time like can I borrow it and they just never brought it back for the last like three years so that's where I'm at so hanging with PEC CC tifo 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up to $100 speaking of kids how's Lil C doing man we I can't call him Lil C no more so he's he's at uh he's at Jordan Tech right you must be proud as a parent man to go and and see your son who you love and spend a lot of time with and then him you know having the passion where did you see like he started to really take it serious at what age oh he I mean he you know he was he was so serious about the game from day one okay like I never I never forced either one of them Carter or Carson to play um but Carson forced me to force him to play you know what I mean like he was like full uniform at three years old wow Indians uniform when we came to the Yankees every single day he came to the game he'd be in full uniform in the locker room every day in the parade after we celebrate after we won he was in the celebration so he's always his whole life been a baseball player I've tried to steer him away I had to play football I had to play basketball but he is that's his passion he's a baseball player and it's a lot of fun to be able to like kind of just hang out with him now you know I missed a lot of his life you know growing up cuz I was at the field and doing my thing so a lot of the time that we spent together was at the field was at the park and he kind of grew up in a in a big leag Clubhouse so to now for me be able to you know watch his career and and you know follow him and you know this summer he played in the ncbf but marus Vineyard he won the the MVP of the league so you know it's fun to be I don't like coach him like he's he's so mature he's so much like his mom and um so put together that there's really not much for me to say to him other than just to be his homie and and guide him if he needs it and really just enjoy what he's doing like being able to go to mares Vineyard and hang out obviously it's a beautiful place but to like watch my son hit homers and [ __ ] like it was like I'm getting chills right now like incredible to be able to see him on his journey and like him like his his body is starting to pay off in what his mind wants to do like he thinks he's Aaron judge you know what I mean but now his body is paying off where he can start hitting balls like Aaron judge so it's a lot of fun well you know we we all when he comes off from home um from like the offseason of school he works out with us when go to the gym so once he started getting bigger than me you know what I mean call him Lil C no more he was out liting us already that's going to be Carter in a couple a couple years too but but God bless man because I I seen him grow from a from a boy to a man I love that you know it just made me feel like a proud me how old are your kids my kids I have a 20-year-old 18 18yearold daughter that just turned 18 yesterday oh 15-year-old daughter and a 13-y old son so two and two kids are surreal yeah like I like people are like ask me like oh are you like ready to have kids and stuff I'm like absolutely not but I love seeing everybody else's kids do beautiful things so that must be very surreal seeing them without even much pushing or coaxing in that direction to see them kind of want to follow after your Footsteps in some ways or or maybe even do things that you did a certain way and do it quote unquote better better yeah no I mean it's it's it's it's great like you like that's perfect because I see them do things that I did but way better you know like um maybe Miss some hiccups along the way yeah just I mean and that's what it's supposed to be right like me and my wife are supposed to have you know try to raise the kids to be better than we were um and it but it it's it's fun to be able to it was I mean it's hard obviously we had we started having kids 20 years ago [ __ ] when we were I was 23 years old my wife was 22 so it was extremely hard um but now to be able to like go on vacation with them and hang out like it's a Vibe it's fun like my 15-year-old daughter is a lot of fun to hang out with sa like I just love hanging out we're we're never all together anymore like all six of us cuz my son's in college and you know different shits going on people are all over the place my girls dance um so their schedules are crazy so but when we're all together and just us six like it's so much fun and it's just a Vibe so it's it's cool to be able to to have that little unit and it's just us in our own little world we can go wherever we can be wherever as long as it's us six we going to have fun all right one thing that we always had a debate on you being from Vallejo California and me being from NE Bron New York was our hipop store we'd always used to laugh about when you used to play those West Coast Alum ah you don't know nothing about and I had worked for Jive at that time and ironically I knew M Dre spice one and all them and all those uh what was the other JT the bigger fan I mean uh because I was from New York and you were from Vallejo is uh from Bron you know like fromo from the Bronx what's crazy is is that music was really important to right it was something that uh I think brought us together and become friends because obviously I worked at Death Jam while you were still while you were still playing and it drew us to to each other but who are some of your favorite uh artists from your area oh man M Dre is obviously the goat to me because the stuff he wrapped about like I was living the streets he wrapped about you know I'm riding my bike down those streets like I can go to the corner store and see him and you know the Romper Room and all them guys so um he is the goat to me he's number one actually number two for me is Biggie really you know I mean you know how you know me being a fat kid growing up like I love fat rappers like people I can like relate to so biggie was my guy Heavy D was my guy but like as when I when when Biggie first came out was a teenager right so like I'm you know a a freshman in high school and like you know biggie comes out rapping about being big and fly that's my guy you know what I mean so one one of the things you used to do uh uh is I he when you used to come on the road to New York you used to have come and get all the popular mixtapes right yeah my guy ski so uh my guy Michael Palmer was he was the first person I met when I got to the big Le I got called up to the big Le at my first games at Yankee Stadium he's the first person I meet and that was back in the day it was no [ __ ] iTunes none of that [ __ ] so it was all DJ Clue mixtapes and you trying to find well the reason why I'm saying this is because Skippy's from the Bronx man so all the Bronx guys know real hip-hop I can't argue that I can't argue that but like every time I I had to go to Dr Jay's and I had to go [ __ ] get me some mixtapes every single time I came in for was it right it's so cool because when I had gotten a job like I always liked West Coast music cuz you know it's so weird like it's like not being happy with what you have right like all athletes want to be rappers want to be athletes more basketball no every that's everywhere but the funny thing is just like we were so intrigued by watching the West Coast life from a New York perspective like watching those old movies you know what I mean and and the Bay Area is completely different from right anything else in the west coast like our sound is different we dress different we talk different like a lot of us from the Bay Area are from the south like our roots are from the south our grandparents came from you know Louisiana Mississippi all these different places to help build the bridges out in the Bay Area so all of our stuff is like really rooted deep like South so like booy is big in the bay you know what I'm saying like jezy big in the B like we we are we Embrace a lot of down south more so than like west coast rappers so we'll I'll listen to somebody from the south like you know Jeezy's my my guy more so than I hate to say this more so than Snoop right right right right but you know the LA and and the bay is two different states basically true so it's I noticed that whenever you run into somebody who's from the bay like you are then y'all start dancing and like your own language and [ __ ] it's a whole thing there a lot to me cities like that are like Baltimore right like the little cities around Detroit Detroit Detroit is like that yeah they a lot a lot of the bay and a lot of valo in Detroit is connected like E40 does a lot of bus business in in Detroit and you know and goes out there a lot of people that I know from Val go to because also Detroit a lot of maybe in a similar way a lot of people black people in particular that got to Detroit are also in some way or another from the south sou Mississippi Louisiana my dad's from Louisiana a lot of people coming from Alabama and stuff like that when they were working in the Auto industry so a lot of that music and all of that influence from mtown and Hip Hop and everything it really it just commingles yeah beautiful so but like as far as East Coast though like I never listen to wuang really never listened to Wu tank I wasn't like a big Nas guy really nah Big E Jayz Big E JayZ you like me that's why we we fell in love with each other quick We Like Cocaine rap and then that's our problem that's what we call C [ __ ] killing people and [ __ ] shooting robing selling bricks all ballhead that you know what I'm saying but yeah no it's uh so I mean my my range of music is kind of weird but I do listen I did listen to a lot of east coast rap growing up which is ironic but it's because I was from the Bay Area from the bay I always find it interesting like where music and sports kind of like intersect and like maybe to some degree how that's happened for you if it's like inspired your style if it's inspired like how you view the game and drive like what or maybe you just listen to it before you go out no I think I mean I guess I think anybody like us that grew up in the culture hip hop has inspired our whole life right like it's everything we do is inspired by the music I'm just like I said I mean the stuff M Dre was rapping about I was doing in the streets as a kid um the Big Timers in the 2000s like I said when I got I got paid the big rims and all that [ __ ] like I'm living that [ __ ] that theying you know what I'm saying so I think that our lives mimic the music or the M the music mimics Our Lives you know what I'm saying especially that's why you know we fall in love with the drug dealing you know what I'm saying the jezy or whoever else because that's what we know that's what we know if you're not an athlete in the growing up in the hood you probably going to be try to make money you're goingon to be doing something illegal that's sound that's because those the only things that available or that's who we love and glamorize as kids right those who the guys had the money in and that's why the that's why the music mimics our life or vice versa we are excited to 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are c4 Smart Energy stay focused so back uh uh I think in [Music] 200 uh 11 maybe no maybe 14 15 we shot a documentary on sneakerheads on shoes oh yeah it was uh it was pretty much fun so we we had to uh I I did I'm hiding my feet on purpose we going to get Jud don't worry about it we got a lot of shoes we got shoes out there for you we're going to hook you up Kenny uh but it's so crazy because when we did the documentary I always knew C had a lot of shoes right and you know going to his house the house is so big you don't really go up to people's bedrooms in in the africanamerican and Latin you know you go to the backyard you don't be playing up people home in their bedrooms so when we had shot the documentary was the first time that I had really been in C's bedroom to be like in his closet that his wife Amber God bless her spends most of her time taking care of and getting right but Kenny when I tell you I never seen so many fly Jordans ever in my entire life I didn't know they existed some of these you had to give an approximate number on pairs of shoes yeah probably over 3,000 oh my God but they're all Jordan so that's why I don't call myself a sneaker head because I don't I don't have anything other than Jordan but you like but you like I like other shoes but I don't wear anything other than Jordans every you have 3,000 shoes you could probably call yourself something guy has one of the first ever like shoe deals with Jordan so I've been with Jordan since 2007 so any sneaker that's came out since 2007 is like been through my closet okay another question though if you had to list like your okay I'll make it easy top three what comes to mind first man you know what like whenever I go to shoes right now it's Travis Scotts just low like low ones is what I pretty much wear every single day just different colors but if it's like a go-to something like anytime my wife is like damn you going to wear those again I'm like yeah the brown ones the blue ones the green ones like he's got he's he's got it he's got it dialed in right now now Kenny your boy got some joints I was like I never even knew they made you come on bro and then I can't even sideswipe him for him cuz he's a 15 I'm I'm a 13 14 depending on on if it's raining or not that day but it's uh yeah so I don't call I don't I don't consider myself a real sneaker head just because I feel like it's cheating you know what I'm saying he's definitely cheating it doesn't matter whether or not there's so many of other different like sneaker companies has really run that line for a very long time like 85% oh man this and it's a blessing just to be able to be a part of that you know what I mean like I mean every couple of months you know you get brand new Jordans like I remember my very first pair of Jordans like being 17 16 years old I was a junior in high school and I begged my mom to get me the the 12 right it was the white and red ones like with the little uh the thing over the toe we went to conquer mall I never forget I skipped school went to conquer ball paid $145 for him and I wore him in the basketball game that night like you did yeah I mean so a lot of people don't know wait is basketball or football was your first Passion well football I was better at football I was I was way better at football than any other sport okay um I just I didn't I I baseball was just easier for me to play you know what I'm saying like it was just like whenever like I get on the baseball field it was just like this is so natural like football had to work my ass off I loved working at it because I knew I could be good at it right but I I was it was just baseball was just like damn this is like so easy for me to do right and it made me make that decision but I was a better football player and I play basketball all the way through I played basketball because we had a really good team I was uh I was like the [ __ ] talker rebounder you know out there bruising people like um but our basketball team was really good and we played together for a long time who was some of the guys you played in that went pro like in basketball Brandon Armstrong was a first round pick for uh the Nets right I think in 200 two three maybe um our Center was 7 foot he played at Georgetown um our three was 66 he played at Gonzaga d r two was he was 65 and he played at he was a cornerback at at Arizona State yeah and then our point guard was a six foot uh guy that went to Cal and then I was the uh power forward at what at what height did that eat I was same height damn I was this height yeah I was this height at at 17 that's crazy wow having to go up against them big boys you yeah we had seven footer in high school crazy I didn't even know they were seven Footers in the man speaking of shoes did you know these were the first shoes Michael Jordan of war no I seen him coming in that that's why his feet always hurting I feel like like MJ and LeBron are the only two players that can play in their shoe you know like LeBron shoe so [ __ ] heavy you know what I mean he's the only guy that can play in his shoe and like MJ the same thing like well the good thing is I only did was Rock their shoes I I mean even though you know I have 27 softball Champions yeah next week it turn 36 right see if you have to make your own shoe like design your own shoe right now what do you think you would do it would probably be similar to this Jordan low top one it would probably be a low um something uh like air max style maybe I don't know I mean it' be a cross between a Air Max 95 and this Jordan one I don't know how that would look but those are my two favorite shoes professionals if now CCE is the one that got me now if if you see us most of the time we got Crocs on yeah Crocs are Uggs Crocs are Uggs s heat Crocs right you got me I bought like every color I got every color I still get [ __ ] from Ronnie and everybody like you we cocs bro this the most comfortable shoe ever I'm this close to being converted I've been fighting the urge to get Crocs because I feel like I won't wear other shoes at you oh no you won't unless you got to go somewhere and get Fly you won't trust me when say I feel like they should have fly Crocs Crocs with a heel they probably do they probably do they probably do so um we wanted to talk about some wild New York stories though okay as a as as the resident uh detroiter who's only been to New York you know short times um I wanted to know what is like just a day-to-day in New York what is a wild story you have man overwhelmed with memories of n it's it's not like it's crazy cuz it's not like it's just like our life you know what I mean not like crazy stories it's just [ __ ] that happens like you show up to a Nicks game and it's like Tracy Morgan is there and Dave Chappelle and like the was it the playoff game we went to we went to the playoff game we in the back and Dave Chappelle's telling stories and [ __ ] fat Joe it's like it's just like only that type of [ __ ] can happen in New York you know what I'm saying like and those happen those nights happen all the time especially with P he's America's guest like this [ __ ] like he knows everybody like literally let just be the name of this podcast America gu uh so he knows everyone and it connects everybody so whenever you with him and you're out you're gonna have a New York night so the crazy thing about New York he's right like right we can go during the day go workout right and then go to the office after that yo we meet up go to the game so I like go to his office Major League Baseball come to my office but even like even us going to work out it could be like Dylan batan is there or Chapman or Action Bronson like but it's just a normal day for us you know what I'm saying like it's not like a and people would look at us like what are you talking about that's a normal day sh Expos like that and he's right we'll go then we'll go to the Nick game like he said I I I didn't realize when we were leaving that game all I did was say hey everybody turned around and I I got the picture and I took a picture and he's right it was Fat Joe and and Dave Chappelle talking [ __ ] to each other about situation then it was you and I uh the guy from The Wire yeah and then Jessica Alba Jessica Alba was there and it was just like all these inter it's New York New York and then you go to dinner and you'll go to a back room or private room and you run into just a bunch of more like New York Stars right or Superstars and then we'll just start having these convers just trying to think like I remember one one uh night we were at Carbones and like well I'm looking looking around and like the the place is empty all of a sudden it's just our table and then Here Comes Kanye and Kim yeah just walk you know what I'm saying like just random [ __ ] like that like that happens like but I can't tell you just one story you know what I'm saying like that type of [ __ ] can happen tonight if we go to dinner or something so and then somebody come in with a iPod start playing music and before you know it you got like Kanye DJ this one is here and that one the night and say less right say l he played this whole album uh and then Chang all it's just wild it's like New York is like that whatever world you're in you'll see like the biggest Superstars just mingling with people to watch is like regular [ __ ] right I like how humanizing that is weirdly I know and that's what I love about this place is that like I can walk down the street right now and people will see me and they know it's me but they don't give a [ __ ] they got somewhere to go they got [ __ ] to do too they got their own [ __ ] they do yeah like they're busy like it's [ __ ] New York you know what I'm saying like I don't have time to [ __ ] stop and take a picture I say CC what's up and that's what I love about it like everybody's doing their own thing you can find your own little lane in in every you know in that world so it's great because I always wonder like when someone becomes like a traditional celebrity like where do they feel most comfortable and what I mean by that is like in New York for instance people are used to seeing celebrities all the time so I would imagine in some way that's very comforting knowing that no one's going to necessar be like a at you so like do you find that New York is different than say West Coast when you're out there or yeah like I said like people in New York won't freak out but being a Yankee people everywhere else like yeah you know like will stop you or so I guess you feel more most comfortable in the city that you're from you know and I'm not from here but I'm taken to this city and the city is taken to me so one thing I could say though like traveling and going a lot of places with see he does get love on like a national level like people genuinely love him like oh right they're like yo see I miss you yo baseball like yo you're real even amongst like outside of Yankee fans uh funny story me and C went to a a playoff football game and I'm a big Giants fan he's a big Oakland Raiders fan uh and the game was in Philadelphia okay yeah I look like I got the whole Giants uniform on and I don't know if you know about Phil Philadelphia fans they're no joke serious F no joke and me and C so you know and even with like the Phillies and and uh right big rivalry man when I tell you we we love to tailgate we love to eat I love to drink beers she loves to just love tailgate we love right it's like a a Pastime for us we do it all the time and the crazy thing about it is that we tailgated for almost two and a half three hours before the game in Philadelphia so if you don't know like if you're a Giants and Phillies fan like this is forgotten like I mean forbidden fruit like don't do it we did it but you know she's big and I'm a big guy but by the way people were cursing at us and treating us but nobody ever said one thing like like f you you effing Yankee or that more about your man the [ __ ] with the whole Giant and I knew like I wasn't going to wear like Eagle [ __ ] but I wear green [ __ ] gu like I'm not [ __ ] with these people I know know cuz I played in Philly I know what the like how how these people are I'm not [ __ ] around I wear my green jacket and he had on all this giant [ __ ] and people like they killed us yo but they went all the way from the fans uh Kenny that we were tailgating up until the people who took the ticket the ticket like the lady was like it's not working it's not working she goes it's not working he was like man you going to make me miss kickoff like I've never seen him like he was distraught he was like ma'am can you please just leave me alone and every checking by the way too and then they're like they're like well your ticket works now but you got the wrong colors on damn man that was crazy yes want to see you sweat yeah want to see so where you think show is going see what's gonna happen man man I honestly don't know um I think he's still gonna get paid somebody's gonna pay him I don't know if it's going to be the Dodgers Giants Mets whoever maybe yanies um but he had surgery uh we sitting here on Thursday he had surgery on Wednesday um September 21st so and he didn't have the full Tommy John he just had the the elbow brace kind of so it's not the same injury he had um you know a couple years ago so I think he'll be able to come back and and pitch and still make an impact if it's me I would you know if I'm advising him I would have him hit just all next year and you know come back and pitch in 25 but it really depends on like what what he values you know what I mean like if he thinks he can still pitch um I feel like San Francisco could be a good place for him because it's the big part right if he feels like his pitching career may be at the you know at the back end then he wouldn't want to go to San Francisco because it's it's not hitter friendly hit friendly you know so he has decisions to make based on what he thinks his legacy is going to be best that you know what I'm saying um so you know those are all things that he's got he has to weigh in on but if it's me if I if like if I if I had to pick I would I would say the Giants because their roster is perfect they win8 95 to 100 games with basically no Superstars right so if you add him to that roster um you know he can DH for you he can pitch for you do whatever he needs to do and it doesn't really disrupt your roster or your makeup or what you have going on and your I guess lifetime or professional lifetime have you ever seen a player like that he's the best player to ever play baseball it's not even and it's not even like close I hate that they compare him to Babe Ruth or whoever else cuz at that time it wasn't the the you know we weren't playing the game of baseball at that time it was a whole separate League of of really good talented players that were playing at the same time as be Ruth was playing so this guy is playing at the best at the time when the players are the best that they've ever been they've thrown the hardest they running they hitting the ball as far as they they've ever hit it and he's the [ __ ] best player he's the best player ever play baseball wow that's great big I love him I think the kids is amazing I love to watch him play I think he brings a whole different like culture to baseball you know what I mean I love it Showtime Showtime okay so we have cool Clips particularly we have somehow gone into the archives and found your high school well a't that so it probably ain't an HD but like it's like 360p my eyes can't quite focus on it um so we have VHS in between some old school porn tap we have what's left that isn't taped over um and uh we have a clip of you doing a home run in high school and we want to get your reaction to it any thoughts maybe something that was going on around it so actually can I you need help let's go wow this is my sophomore year high school sophomore bro look how big I am now I know I was like wow oh so that was against uh this the school that's my cousin right there he playing the big leagues Joe thirst and I I I remember he I'm like why you running so fast bro I hit that ball where you going yo see look at you man yeah wow 15 years old that's how Carson tries to be that was that was against a big school when uh Sacramento called uh El Grove oh wow so that was a big that was a huge game there was a lot of people at that game that was my sophomore year over them little kids bro yeah you know what's crazy about like that team or like the my high school team is that when I was 12 it was the same nine guys like we were we played together from the time we were 12 all the way through high school oh wow so it was the same group of guys while we were so good oh that's so cool but yeah that's my that's my sophomore year and yeah my cousin Joe th is running the bases did some of you guys did they play basketball with you too like y' guys all played I was it was only me and another guy that play all three sports but it was it was guys that play football and baseball basketball and football you know what I mean but it was me and this guy Jerry bowling I were the only two that played all three you look like Danny alonte when he that's a real thing by the way my M my mom used to travel with my my birth certificate oh yeah yeah we were playing in the tournament I think I was 9 years old and some lady was at the concession stand talking about the the big kid on the valo team oh yeah and my mom overheard her oh and broke the lady's nose I know yo cuz mom broke the L's she broke the chill before you I know I don't play that she broke the lady's nose at the con in the line the concession stand listen to me my head because I know Cece mom even before I mean I could already tell about how she took initiative over when you started playing professional so I'm like yeah you gotta be scary a little W all right y'all see so we're going to do we're going to go through I want to get your reaction about uh a jeta's last hit at Yankee Stadium uh to for the winning to win the game the crazy thing is I think the game before this I went with Sean Ry to to the Yankee game where he hit the home run so I figur like that was I saw Jeter was that was it nothing was going to be bigger than that so obviously Juan and Jay and Kai's called and they like yo you want to come to the game so I was with uh Karen having dinner and Sean Riley so I was like nah man I saw him hit his home run already it's not going to get better better than that you know I mean so I turned him down I said at first I look at C I'm like do you mind if I go she's like really you went yesterday so like around her birthday or something like that so I said all right all right I'mma chill so this is what happened when I missed this is what you missed and let me see how you your feeling on that yeah no it was crazy I was hurt all year all this year so I got hurt in like uh beginning of May I got hurt actually on Mother's Day we were in Milwaukee and that was the last game I pitched um so I was gone all summer I hadn't been around you know he was doing his whole tour and he was mad at me because I was the one that told him that he had to do the tour like he didn't want to announce that he was going to retire right I'm like you have to [ __ ] announce you retire so they can do like the whole tour he was pissed he was mad because it like took a lot out of him you know what I'm saying and this was a crazy moment what's crazy about this is if he don't score it's just me and G out on the field cuz I had already soon as he hit the ball I had already jumped the fence oh you did like I was I was the first person out there so that's why I was the one that was the first one to give my hus like if if Mark kin throws out Antoine Richardson it's just me and G stand on the field like what the [ __ ] happened but that was crazy I was fresh off of knee surgery and I ran out there and I came back in the trainer was like well I guess you feeling pretty good huh I'm I'm feeling pretty [ __ ] good man that but yeah n i mean that I mean it wouldn't end if if they did a movie about Derek Jeter's life and it ended like that I'd be like [ __ ] this movie right I'm not watching this [ __ ] it ain't no way it ends like that and it's [ __ ] that's [ __ ] Derek Jeter that's who he is huh it's crazy Captain Man y That's pretty dope y so our uh our partner here is C4 energy um and one of the things that we wanted to do is question like what brings you energy what keeps you focused um both when you were on the field and now that you've retired and you're doing different Endeavors now so like what is focused to you and how do you keep it what kept me focused as a player was trying to win I was literally singly focused on [ __ ] winning to the point where it' be nights where like we would have scheduled to go out to dinner or whatever and if I didn't pitch well like I'm not going you know like or if you know the way that the season ended if the season didn't end the way I thought it should end I would be in the house for the whole off season you know what I mean like so my focus was just on winning not the on the field um now I feel like my focus and what gives me energy is my family um you know trying to you know blaze a better path for them um being around for them um you know wanting to be healthier so I can live a fuller life so I can you know watch my grandkids grow up um you know my father passed away at 47 years old so I want to be able to you know be here and be in my kids life um you know past that so I think that's what gives me focus and energy right now is just my family and trying to be a better man for them do you find that after you stopped playing that there was a tendency to want to do something more competitive just wasn't sports or something feel that kind no I'm I'm I'm done like being competitive like I was so um like I would fight you to win you know what I'm saying like I I like I would literally [ __ ] fight you to win and I don't ever want to get back to that point anymore like when I get mad at golf like I'll just [ __ ] I'll be done you know what I'm saying like I won't let golf get me that mad like I don't do anything that gets me to the level of where I was in competition when I pitched so I'm like I'm like comped out because you got to think about it like when I was I started playing baseball when I was four years old so any time there was a big game big allstar game big championship game or anything I'm the one that's pitching the game from the time I'm 9 years old to the time I'm 40 years old you know what I'm saying so that's a long time to be that's like identity that that's yeah and so I wouldn't let it be my identity though you know um but it it is who you are which is crazy so we're gonna finish out with a quick segment we're gonna call it what's your goat we're gonna ask what is your greatest of all time of various uh topics so speedrun let's start with basketball first okay bask Michael Jordan let's get that out the [ __ ] way that Bo let's get that out the [ __ ] way right now movie Harlem Knights okay sneaker Jordan one no Jordan 11 I'm sorry Concord you pitched the those a lot right love rapper M Dre baseball player Barry BNS okay TV show dang the wire the wire the wire is my probably the best TV show of all time now we got to find out because we had I had this experience the other day when we talked about it who was your all-time favorite player on the Oakland Raiders uh Barry uh Barry Bo Jackson my all-time favorite athlete um I was a multiport athlete because of Bo Jackson you know being able to see him play baseball and football um in the MLB and the NFL I mean I was a huge Prime Time fan Deion Sanders but Bo Jackson played for the Raiders um so he was more my guy so I I have tattoo of Bo Jackson on my leg too he was my favorite player yeah it's on your outer leg right now it's in the safe [Laughter] spot all right well you're my goat I appreciate you my brother I love you thank you for you know being our first guessing for being my brother for always being there for me appreciate you bro love for coming all right of course thank you awesome having you good