Taylor Swift Endorses Kamala Harris and Sweeps The VMAs | Episode 82

Intro / Harris endorsement Taylor watch welcome welcome back to another episode of Taylor watch happy Thursday happy Thursday to you happy Thursday to you I love doing that that I thought we were going to go for like a different Melody I thought so too cuz we already did that one but it just I it felt eff it comes natural happy Thursday to you happy Thursday to you happy Thursday to you happy Thursday dear Swift happy Thursday to you and many more that was beautiful that was beautiful look at us I have chills from our own singing I love to that in my ear I'd be like [ __ ] yeah it is a happy Thursday it is a happy Thursday and if it's anybody's birthday just slide your name in there and you're swify anyway so so it all makes sense but happy Thursday um you might see if you're watching on YouTube you might get a little confused because we are recording this on a Wednesday prev VMAs but we will have VMAs coverage later in this episode we'll just be wearing different outfits so don't be confused and uh stick around for that first though obviously after our last episode um just just in time for uh for the debate to be happening KLA Harris vers Donald Trump Taylor Swift uh lays the endorsement out I 23 27 minutes after the after the conclusion I honestly didn't even realize that the debate was coming out the day was happening the day that that episode drops so oh yeah I honestly didn't either well the timing is knew but not really yeah the timing is hilarious like I knew it was coming because we knew the VMAs are moving but I uh you pointed out something to me earlier that we didn't do our our research on which was at what point actually did Taylor Endor bid last year it turns out it was the exact same time it was right after the debate right after but the debate I guess was later in the season it wasn't like as early as I think it was like a week later or something two weeks later so um so yeah if all if we had just you know she gave so many signs if we had just followed the signs everybody could have maybe uh saved themselves a lot of [ __ ] grief online and chilled the [ __ ] out but yeah I think people were confused with maybe what I was trying to say in the fact of like celebrities and like political beliefs like I never confused confused why no I just see some comments like being like you guys were wrong like whatever like she just endorsed comma you guys were we never said retrospect yeah like we never said that she shouldn't or like no no I think we said the opposite of fact we said there's plenty of time left and she still might but don't don't like bring your torches and pitforks asking for it right right and if she doesn't but I think you specifically said like there's still time for her to do it and we both said like yeah she goes close to the election she you know she's a thoughtful person maybe we didn't lay it out so specifically but yeah yes I think that that there was always going to be a time where where you know she said something whether she was going to be as vocal or whatever about it is is one thing but and you know never in my head did I think she was going to start like campaigning and you know performing and going you thought she was going to show up at the DNC I thought that was crazy and obviously she didn't but this makes complete sense and I think uh shall we read her shall we read her statement in full and I think honestly what her yeah what her statement said I think reflected honestly a lot about what we said just being like you need to research you need to do do your own like education and figure out where your thoughts align and I still stand by the fact that like I don't think I don't think celebrity should be like your number one political advice giver or whatever or like political correspondent but she really says that in the caption yeah so here here's the caption in total uh alongside a photo of her and Benji from her Time person of the year shoot which an unreleased photo by the way looking beautiful someone said that she never released his photo because Benji ate her up that's funny his face is to his face he he does look really really really serving yeah and his eyes look look more blue um okay she says like many of you I watched the debate tonight if you haven't already now is a great time to do your research on the issues at hand and take the stances these candidates take on the topics that matter to you the most as a voter I make sure to watch and read everything I can about their propos osed policies and plan plans for this country recently I was made aware that AI of me quote falsely endorsing Donald Trump's presidential run was posted to his site it really conjured up my fears around AI which we of course know that she she has a lot of those and the dangers of spreading misinformation it brought me to the conclusion that I need to be very transparent about my actual plans for this election as a voter the simplest way to combat misinformation is with the truth facts girl I will be casting my vote for KLA Harris and Tim Waltz in the 2024 presidential election I'm voting for because she fights for the rights and the causes I believe need a warrior to Champion them I think she is a steady-handed gifted leader and I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos love that I was so heartened uh and impressed by her selection of running mate Tim Walls who has been standing up for lgbtq plus rights IVF and women's right to her own body for decades yes I've done my research and I've made my choice your research is all yours to do and the choice is yours to make I also want to say especially to first time voters remember that in order to vote you have to be registered I also find it's much easier to vote early I'll link where to register and find early voting dates and info and my story with love and hope Taylor Swift childless cat lady I love that she sign knew was child cat lady so cute I don't know how anybody thought like she was never gonna like when when when JD Vance was calling people childless cat ladies at one point I like in my head I was like Taylor Swift will use that somewhere like that's she has to use that that that is her that's her whole thing and and um I just think that that was a a great way to say like do your research get out there and vote find out what's important to you like that's basically what we were saying like it was very eloquently written I feel like and it was very much the fact of like here's why I'm yeah not preachy at all like here's why I'm voting for comma here's why I like Tim Waltz and like what you said I've done my research and I've made my choice your research is all yours to do and the choice is yours to make yep yep yep you she's not like you need to vote for comma and you need to do it now she's still very much like registered to vote like voting is you're right and that's kind of what we said like research educate yourself and if you're reading Taylor Swift's caption and you're thinking huh like I align with those ways then that brings you to reading about K reading about Tim Waltz and seeing if you align that way and I I like the way that she go went about it no pressure you know very calm and calm not chaos especially I love that calm not chaos because that is you know that is the Trump Administration like runs on chaos and that's just kind of how that goes but um I think that the the inclusion of the like you know multiple times do your own research whatever blah blah blah I think that is really the main take away is that if you are going to be voting in an election if you're going to be voting for you know in your States I think that's also people are forgetting like yeah the president is President yeah but you also have to know's the first time I ever voted I was like who the [ __ ] are these people there's a lot of other people you vote for a lot of a lot of [ __ ] you got to think about and you don't have to vote you know it's not like you know if you vote for for KLA that's how you vote for every single issue like it's not it's it's very very nuanced and I think that that I think is something that's important for people to know and um if you don't already know which I I would hope you would if you were interested in something like this but I think that again promoting the idea of doing your own research and just being an adult about these kind of things like really thinking about how you know how World issues affect your dayto day and if some things don't affect you dayto day then those aren't the things that are top of mine but if some things do then then they are and so whatever's important to you is what's important to you and I and she laid it out perfectly yeah and in addition to that let uh kamla's exit music after she gave her her speech to um you know her team and her supporters outside of the debate her uh walkout song to leave was the man by Taylor Swift love it and then also um right on sale quickly within two seconds uh uh Harris walls um friendship bracelets as well so I think that clearly you know uh this is in the works it's planned like I'm sure she said like hey yeah like this is coming at some point or like you know where I stand she's previously endorsed you know obviously endorsed Joe Biden she endorsed kamla when she was running alongside Joe so I think it was kind of assumed that it was going to happen and I think that like all these other plans are in the works sure there was a conversation about using Taylor's song and being able to do the friendship bracelet thing with an argue ready for it tag on it to release at the same time as Taylor's words but again uh if if I have gathered anything from the debate besides the like absurdity of most of it it's that the is that K's marketing team is the best marketing team in world right now they're they're just they're crushing it and again that is what it is like you have to remember like both of these teams they're in a marketing War right now who can get who can get more people and you know who can sound better and look better and do the right things and sorry K's crushing it like they're they're having her do all the right things whoever is running like her Tik Tok HQ is so [ __ ] funny they post the funniest stuff right but yeah no I I um just good good planning yeah like and we said last on Tuesday like just put two and two together like yeah she's shown all the signs you know she spoke about it before I I feel like there was this impatient need for her to speak on something because you know she was she was hanging out with Britney so everyone was like what the [ __ ] going on whatever so I felt like that added kind of like a pressure of everyone being like w well is she going to say something or she not people coming after her and it's like people are vultures they're [ __ ] you know and everyone just wants to jump at the chance and I even more Gia like since we spoke about it the other day after seeing like the rest of it unfold until this announcement I I think more than ever that they that like a lot of the discourse around Taylor and the hate around Taylor is started by people that want like that aren't actually fans like I I really really think that like people are masquerading as a fan to like and be like I'm a fan and this is so [ __ ] up like I I've just never seen Behavior like this and and obviously Stan Twitter is out of control and it's not the reality of the world like I I feel like I say that every time we talk about Stan Twitter like obviously we bring it up sometimes because we want to dispel [ __ ] that people are saying but I I really worry that people think that they see these things they think it's true it is not how the world operates and it's not real life and all those people like a lot of those people are children and they don't know what they're talking about and they're just ring people up online and I think that this one just got so far out of hand because major [ __ ] news outlets keep picking up like when are they going to learn that St Twitter is fake like when are they oh I'm always scared to death when someone opens the door it's just like why look at the [ __ ] schedule I know it's crazy crazy um God it scares me to death but for real like when when are these Outlets going to stop like it's all for clicks like that's the thing is these these you know articles or whatever are all for clicks and so they see they they see the trends because it's crazy people on stand Twitter and then they start writing articles about it because it's like you know H you know it's a a paycheck for them and the same thing about sorry sorry the same thing before I forget about the tweets like people will tweet these outrage thoughts feelings whatever because you can you get paid on tweets now like people forget that like if you have a viral tweet you're making money off it yeah and um so people are just trying to tweet outrage and tweet things that they know that people that'll get people going and all this [ __ ] because they're making money off it so it doesn't matter what they're saying or what they're doing they just you know a lot of people run on there and they don't have they don't have a moral compass and tweet some [ __ ] and that's just like it's exhausting it's and they they'll find something to attack her for later but you know I glad already happening everyone's like the timing oh oh really bullying works you know it's like no and it's so clear that like she didn't write that in like an hour you know like 27 minutes like no it's not it's not a thing I I do feel like at this point you know fans are just never fans are just never happy people on Twitter people yeah people that are aware of Taylor Swift are just never happy with whatever she's doing and that's it's just so annoying but like you know what I am very happy I'm happy she endorsed KLA I feel like it's a weight off the shoulders of everyone like talking about will she won't she will she won't she for sure I'm I'm excited just because now we don't have to talk about it anymore you know I mean like we don't have to I was a little concerned like and I I brought this up yesterday or I brought this up last episode just being like you know she was so vocal about being in politics and you know she was she's been a little quiet she's Bry Mahomes I personally I just was like I never thought she'd changed views I never was like she needs to speak on this whatever but I was just like huh interesting like like what's going on behind what's going on behind the scenes just because like obviously you can be friends but I was just like I just was curious to what the what the tea was what the vibe was so it's nice to know that even though you know she was with Britney it doesn't change anything and again we reiterated you can be friends with people on all all all parts of the spectrum it doesn't matter where you align politically you can still be friends with someone um but yeah I guess I just was like H especially after the Britney like really doubling down I was just like huh and but I never was like she needs to talk you know I think the uh I think the the thoughts of like hm is is an okay thought to have I think I was more like not thinking hm because of like everything that's been going on like again just how how big of a person she is right now like it's just you know and even today like everyone's everyone says it's the number one news thing today it's all anybody's talking about they everybody um Rachel mattow like broke the news to Tim Walls live like every single reporter it's like breaking news this just in like you know during the when kamla had her like after party whatever some she was like talking and someone yelled Taylor Swift Just endorsed you yes yeah like that's yeah literally Paul R so funny like that and and that's like I'm laughing at those things because these are you know I love I love the show vep and everybody wants to like be like vep isn't real life but you know watch vep and then tell me that it's just like it's so funny how like politics work and how things work and how it's just one big machine and like this this endorsement meant a lot for for you know the Democratic party it meant a lot for them you know uh creditwise I guess I should say like it it gives them a backing that they were hoping for and um and so you know everybody's fine again it's not a surprise at all and uh hopefully now everybody can shut the [ __ ] up about it it's just like enough is enough leave her alone now she's peace um and that's that's how it's going to be but what was I going to say also um I love the use of the man and I was hoping that at some point that song could work its way in because it's so perfect for you know woman running for president like it's just it's a great song for that it really is yeah I don't know good [ __ ] it's just it is it's nice to just be reassured like okay she's like it can feel EMP empowering yeah it does feel empowering and like I I appreciate her speaking you know telling people to vote and telling people to do their research like for sure it's one thing for a celebrity to just be like here I'm endorsing blah blah blah but like she really like laid in the fact that like you need to educate yourself you need to here's the reasons why and and I and I appreciate that and yeah I don't know it just it's just funny to me to think that like after watching that debate she was just like holy like yeah like now's the time I got to let it what the hell did I just watch it's got to come out dude dude dude I I mean I I'm not a like I said I tune in to politics when the stakes are high and it's an election year and we're obviously talking about all the time i' never be having these conversations otherwise I don't give a [ __ ] usually because it's just too you know it's too heated the block is always too hot to talk about politics I think but when it comes to this debate the stuff like I took an edible ready like ready to settle in Acker lie whatever they always do and um it's like I don't even know like I If kamla was like skating over stuff and and kind of like you know bullshitting her way through some answers like sure both of them did that but Trump being like they're ripping baby's limb from limb after they're born and he said executing executing them multiple times executing ripping their arms off he said literally and then he and that to me it's like I can't I can't I don't care I like I I that is me putting the economy on the back burner like I'd rather put the economy on the back burner than than run around thinking that people in this world think that that's true it's like oh no no no we can't have that we'll fix the economy in four more years like we got to F we got to fix this right now now people legitimately think that people in Springfield are eating dogs and cats I you know what I want so bad are like the people of Springfield to come to speak out and like hey um everything's fine here by the way we're out to dinner like we're eating steak like like we're eating cows and chickens like everyone else like nobody's eating dogs and cats they're eaing the pets they're eaing your dogs they're eaing your cat they're eaing your dogs they're eaing the cats like it's a it's a freak Show millions millions of dogs they're doing transgender surgeries on on illegal the jails in the jails Nancy P's doing it which I don't like Nancy Pelosi I hate thatch that's a funny like that's funny like it's crazy it was he he really seemed like even more off his rocker a little bit like he's usually a little off his rocker his she made fun of his which I really do think people are making those jokes being like oh she insulted whatever tell he was rattled as [ __ ] she was like you're rallies are boring and then no one goes and he was like no literally he was like anger From the Inside Out are the best millions of people go me they're the best rallies everyone loves these rallies they're the best they're not boring at all it's like dude dude dude I don't know like I just I it was it became like high comedy I was like this is this is insane but but I can't lie and say that my fears aren't greater when it comes to people impressionable idiots hearing we ripping arms off off freshly newborn babies people like legitimately believe that like I can't have that that women are just carrying a baby to 9 months and be like actually [ __ ] it I don't want this baby I don't want it letting it let being born and sitting around and I'm okay you ex this baby yeah execute this baby rip its arms off like it's what like I just I thought I was hallucinating like that again I took the edible I was like this can't be happening right now and it just sounds so foolish like it's just such a it's just and it's also just like so disrespectful to women that have gone an abortion it's awful right that's what I'm saying it's it is you're just painting them to be like yeah yeah yeah I loved though I loved the the one the female moderator I don't know her name I was too focused on David M hotti hot hot but like who's so hot but like um the female moderator also was just serving [ __ ] I loved it there's no States there's actually no state where killing a child is is legal I was like yes girls speak on it you know what I mean but but yeah so I mean I understand I understand people's frustrations when it comes to like you know money stuff War stuff I I don't know much about those things but the important issue to me is the the glaringly obvious lies about like surrounding abortion and IVF and all those things as a woman so I sorry I'm a woman I care about the woman the woman the best at fertilization yeah he's like I'm the best at fertilization it's like are you I mean yeah I guess you have like 100 kids so it's like sure like it's just don't ever say you're the best of fing it's just so crazy like I don't know I I worry about in I was saying this I was up until like literally 6:00 in the morning like watching you know how sometimes you get caught I could not sleep I could not stop scrolling Twitter it just soop scrolling Twitter and I was like worrying about the state of the world and like watching videos 911 it's 911 right now never forget and um um I'm just like watching this stuff and I'm like so concerned and I just my concern really is the like I hope hope hope that people are not that stupid like that's just what I pray I pray that nobody is that dumb to do what to like believe that kind of [ __ ] like to to believe like openo it just sounds it sounds like a joke like you we know that right like I just I feel like I wanted like Shake people and be like you know that right like I understand you want to make your money and you care about your taxes me too [ __ ] but like this this come on come on come on it's just crazy it's crazy town USA thank God that's over um rumors are you know everybody's talking about the moderators uh three against one taking sides whatever then I guess everyone was like KLA offered to do another debate on Fox Trump said no I saw that somewhere today so you know it's like hopefully we won't hear anything more from these two on a public stage until uh the election yeah yeah and uh yeah that's that that's that on on the debate yeah I just feel like it talking politics on Taylor watch and that's that's politics watch people and that's yeah from your two election watch from your two favorite political correspondence down at B from the most well-informed women in the building thank you yes thank you thank you I've done I've done a lot you were actually going to be the next Moder imagine we're the next moderators my God I would love to be a moderator I'd be like um K what's your favorite song off brat yeah name three songs name three songs off brat yeah yeah if you're KLA everyone said that you were having a brat summer really name you know Donald your wig was blowing in the wind the other day are you going to use glue in the future to keep it down Donald are you get a spray T are you getting Venetian or youd what is your color Choice are you aware that the that the spray Tanner you Ed for your face is different than the ones you use on your hands cuz we're aware many girls between the ages of 16 to 25 have experienced the difference between their faces and hands being different to two bronzer have you have you exper this yeah yeah what are your thoughts on on on stopping this phenomenon are we going to make spray tan formulas better again I could sign up for that and you know question those are the hard-hitting questions kamla how soon do you get a blowout before these public events cuz your hair is looking great her hair was looking looking fabulous her makeup too she's crushing it um but yeah so that's all that uh big night exciting stuff um and yeah this is this is the world The Way of the World the world we're living in um some more EX some more exciting things all those things aside uh let's let's focus on what's important Draft Queens today here here the coronation of the draft queens has taken place in New York City New York on the day of September 10th 11 oh my God I forgot God Gia can you stop forgetting G has been so disrespectful and has forgotten the date twice today and they say never forget and what I we're we're making never forget September 11th the two queens have declared that they will be reinstating new laws for the benefit of the Kingdom the laws are as such to do with the game of football yes America no we are in for European uh regime Spanish Spanish uh p m I was going to say patriarchy what's what's matriarchy what's it called with um um monarchy monarchy we're Spanish Mony monarchy football Americano yes draft Queens is Queens are bad um we talked a little bit about it the other day but obviously we are over the moon thrilled with how our parlay went last week we are just like I'll be honest with you we're kind of the Talk of the Town We're The Talk of the Town and we're about to tell you our our next uh our upcoming parlay it's going to be an all Sunday parlay three different things going on on Sunday so we we decided like having people watch football three days in a row last week like was a little you know that's asking a lot it ising a lot and it was fun and we did win and we were fabulous and so we feel that we can um bring that same energy all to a Sunday and so um we have uh three new choices and we also were kind of talking about them in the office I was going to say a second ago I have a lot of fun like thinking of thinking of reasons why going to pick these things again they're not really based on like facts or anything just like is he good who's his girlfriend is he a cool guy is he hot like they're based those things which I think you know worked for us last week maybe it'll work for us again this week so um very excited about that don't don't fix what's not broken exactly so um we have chosen three different things one for uh a one o00 game a four o'clock game and an 8 o'clock game so Sunday all day Sunday all day cuz you know like your your boyfriends your husbands are going to be one sitting on your ass they're going to be wanting to sit on their ass so you get to sit on your ass too and now you will have a little bit of stake in the game absolutely and when you are placing your bets on the DraftKings sports book the official sports betting partner of the NFL um you can tell your boyfriend's dad's uh husbands friends other Brad's Chads dads and other uh Swifty besti girlies that we won last week and so we're you we're one for one right now we're really trying to get the girly pops on DraftKings um that's like like that's why we're here that's why we're here we're here and they were out last week we had a lot of people Tagg thank you so much to everybody who tagged us in your bet slips and who uh who were participating with us because to be honest it was more than I thought and people are people were excited to engage with this and have fun with this and we're just thrilled about that so we're probably going to give this same kind of Spiel every week just to just as an encouraging thing you know like and if you lose you lose you win you win we're all just having fun you don't have to bet big amounts you could just have a good time and and get involved I think I put like five bucks yesterday or last week and I was like [ __ ] I should have put more money it's so funny now cuz like my mom is like oh man like I don't know yeah it's so funny like oh my par didn't a hit I'm like oh my God she's texting me like what bet she should take it's very very fun that's amazing both my parents are are on the same train as well my dad is very into it we said before my mom too but my dad more so he's a he's a a sports betting guy so we got your families involved your friends your girls your guys everybody shall we get into it let's get into it okay so the 1:00 game is San Francisco at Min minota say Minneapolis minis Minneapolis Minneapolis Minnesota Vikings versus the San Francisco 49ers and we are going with Brock pie yes plus 250 passing yards Brock pie um or over 250 pass over 250 passing yards which means that uh however many yards he throws the football throughout the game weing total it will will up 250 yard which we think is going to be pretty good because he uh he's a good guy he's a good player he's been slaying the game people are saying that he's underrated that absolutely what did they call him so right so I'm about to tell the story he was drafted in uh 2022 he was like a last round draft pick and they were calling him Mr Irrelevant and then he stepped up to the plate when uh Jimmy garpo decided he was too hot to play football and um took over for him and also another guy I don't remember his name sorry to that man um but he came through and he shined he's no longer Mr relevant and then he did so well that he did in fact play against the Chiefs in the Super Bowl this past year and we all obviously watched the Chiefs won we were excited Taylor was there on the field all that [ __ ] but the 49ers lost in the sauce is uh they did really well that that was a good game like I remember having a lot of fun watching it and like worrying and being like Oh my God these guys are going to lose so we think that Brock P deserves his flowers his shine BR P Redemption tour his Redemption tour we're happy is plus 130 to have over 250 yard so basically that means he's like a little unlikely to have that yes it's not it's not a not a total lock but if you're if you're willing to place a little bit life is you know life is too short RIS life is too short and we're taking a risk on Brock party we think he can pull it out we think he's going to Mis irrelevant no more and then we have our four 25 25 game where is that oh that's right there it's Cincinnati at Kansas City so we have sexy Joe burrow versus sexy Travis Kelsey oh Joe burrow but he you know he has been not doing well yeah everybody said he's not that great right now he's having a hard time maybe after his uh he you know he went through a breakup maybe he's having a hard time maybe the bleach is getting to his head the bleach could be getting to his head doesn't make him any less sexy don't be S you're so sexy don't lose the game you're so sexy that's how we feel about don't throw an interception you're so sexy but do lose the game please Joe burrow do lose the game and Travis Kelce please score touchdown because we are taking Travis Kelce anytime touchdown Travis y you know we got a lot of you know people in our DMS being like can't believe you guys didn't take a Travis Kelce pick last time Hey listen there there's not a lot of Travis Kelsey to go around this season there really is we can't we can't be picking him every single time pick him every week and then also our our first one out the gate we said we didn't want to get too cute with it we we just wanted a chief win easy peasy put too much pressure can I tell you g I'm really glad we didn't because Travis Kelce did not get a touchdown last game he Patrick threw it to him several times and he was thwarted in his attempts which makes me think personally that he's going to be out for blood this game he's like I'm hungry for a touchdown I played a whole game I didn't get one I'm going to get one today and they're at home again home game double double home games maybe B's going to be there could be there you never know Sunday well she's not busy yeah so she could she could be there at home hopefully fresh off Wi winning here's also another thing oh yeah hopefully Taylor Wins some VMAs so Travis is going to want to win the game by scoring a touchdown they got to they they both need the the trophies to bring home you know what I'm saying so we have faith in our in our man Travis this week and then to cap it off with the 8:00 8:20 Prime Time game we have Chicago at Houston so we have the lovely Mr Simone biles Mr Simone biles the Bears who I've totally come around on remember at the beginning Simone B's husband was like who is she well he what was he thinking I think that he probably just didn't follow the Olympics and to be fair choking around the like Co year Olympics were not as like publicized like I don't know maybe he just was he was busy playing football and he didn't know but now he [ __ ] knows and he followed her all around Paris and he was the most supportive husband and I saw I watched her did you watch her little documentary as well yep so cute so good he's wonderful and so we hope the best for him and he is um he plays defense for the bear and uh this this one is maybe the most complicated in our little line and um can I try to explain it to see if I get it in like a casual way because I know you know what you're talking about and then you can explain it for real if I do it wrong so okay so um wait say his name again I got Jonathan Owens Jonathan Owens okay Jonathan Owens he plays defense for the Bears now the Houston Texans um as far as we have heard and as I can tell they are supposed to be really really good this year Dave poroy put like a massive bet on them to win the Super Bowl like apparently oh boy apparently you know they're they're just they're on fire allegedly and um so we wanted to support soone biles's husband and um the way to do that is to make sure that the score of the game stays low Y and um because the defense is really good on the Bears team because of our because of our man Jonathan Owens and all of his you know his his friends as well however um they are not that good in terms of scoring yep but like I said though their defense is good so hopefully the Texans will have a hard time scoring but they'll probably still win um but as long as we keep that keep that number low so so we're betting the under on the total points scored similar to how we did last week with the Green Bay Eagles game we bet the over so now we're going the opposite yep and uh you you explained that perfectly that was that a good explanation perfect excellent you can't take so like for Travis we're taking that anytime touchdown you can't take a player prop like that on a defensive player right so we wanted to do like oh Jonathan Owens gets an interception but they don't have that because it's very hard to figure out the money too specific whatever you have to bet basically the whole defense to do to get over a certain amount of yards or or a certain amount of I don't really know honestly basically you just have to bet the whole Bears defense you can't just bet one individual def which listen it sounds like it sounds like they're good everybody's saying nice things even all the guys out there were like oh yeah the Bears def they're pretty good jonan Owens had a interception last game so he's you know he's feeling himself um let me see what line is for the under very quickly the under the line is min-2 so that means it's actually kind of likely for it to happen pretty likely for it to happen we're we're excited about that and um the points in total it's 45 point 45 and a half so we want to have less total points than that so that's what we're looking for and again we're not you know if you want to root for uh for Jonathan Owens Mr Simone biles on the side like that's how you can that's how you can do it without um you know worrying about going up against what's allegedly predicted to be one of the best teams this year in the Texans I also just want to say the line for Travis kelc to uh anytime touchdown is plus 120 so that's a little unlikely but still there's a change that that feels unfair that feels unfair I like that he usually is always getting touchdowns I I really think because like I could we were watching at the bar and you could see the frustration on his face when he kept getting like it happened like twice I think right where he kept kind of either getting pushed over or intercepted or or whatever was going on and um the Ravens were playing really well in that moment but he you know he's going to get mad he's he's a passion player we've seen him we saw him Y at Andy read that one time he's a passion player and if he comes out hot and he's like I I need to make a touchdown in front of my girl or I need to make a touchdown so my girl can see that I'm still doing my job I so we feel I really really like these picks I do so it's Brock pie over 250 passing yards Travis Kelce anytime touchdown and bears Texans under 45 and a half love it we're Slay Slay slaying the draft Queen game absolutely we are and two um it's fun we're we're trying to like when we make these picks one we obviously we go off of um you know just basically how we feel about these people but we also are trying to like do stuff a little bit different so we kind of explore all the different kinds of bets we can make like last 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practicing I just figured he'd be like in the gym at the hotel yeah but like you really got to like prac [ __ ] like you got to grind for that [ __ ] I wonder if he had like a train like he didn't really explain that but I wonder if he had like a trainer with him or like friends come in maybe Ross maybe Ross was helping yeah could be super fun so uh so that was revealed um they mentioned Bad Blood Bad Blood because um he said that the Chiefs and the who the [ __ ] are they playing I already forgot Ravens no uh Chiefs and thekings Vikings they have bad blood yes and they do have bad blood TR like bad blood is it because of the [ __ ] uh Taylor Swift quesadilla Bad Blood quesadilla no I thought babyon quesadilla was in the bills oh that was the bills I always get confused with those [ __ ] something too and I think they were a little sassy I we'll have to look into more their beef cuz I do love a game with beef yeah me too we love bad bud and then uh Travis was like oh bad blood and Jason was like she has a good way of like using everyday terms in her songs absolutely but then uh the last thing they said was they were looking forward to the VMAs and um that Taylor's nominated for a bunch they're excited and they said You Know Travis was like oh but I hope everybody has a good time whatever and then Jason was like except for everybody going against Taylor I hope you lose yes so that's funny their family being ride or die wanting Taylor to win as many moonmen as she can let's um yeah let's see her not her nominations what she's nominated for Travis said 10 I wonder if that's exactly right I think it is 10 course he's so he's so smart does Taylor have what VMA nominations okay she will oh now it says leads the nominations with 12 oh wow 12 does is it a quick a quick list of them or is it hard to find them hard is nominated for a song of the summer fortnite vma's most iconic performance you belong with me oh is that like a like a just in general of vma's iconic performance like of all time yeah her little Subway remember that performance of her in the subway and that was when Kanye oh yeah honestly no a pretty slept on performance say I don't know what off the top of my head because I always think of the rain the rain one that's a really good one too um video of the Year fortnite artist of the year of the Year fortnite best collaboration fortnite best pop best Direction fortnite best cinematography fortnite best visual effects fortnite best art Direction fortnite best editing fortnite you know what uh love all that you know what I think it's kind of crazy is fortnite is you know fortnite's the single and it has the video with that beautiful shot video with post Malone like I think that those nominations are good I think like song of the summer you know I don't think so no definitely well everybody everybody knows like the finalist right now at at this point you know we're going to know by the time you see the rest of this episode in like 10 minutes but um they're saying it's between Taylor and birds of a feather Billy eyelish or something right now it's espresso like I don't care and espresso wasn't even like put up nominated so I like espresso like was literally everywhere everywhere and fortnite was every song of the summer yeah either that or or Chapel a chapel one and um but I mean it was espresso so I I don't know like I can see best art Direction best editing same best cinematography best visual effects best Direction yep yep yep I don't know about best pop I don't think I don't know about best I don't think so and that's not that's not us being like me to Taylor there's just there's so many Fantastic people nominated this year who had bigger hits than fortnite like fortnite's a fantastic song but it's certainly not song of sum she could win she could win best collab best collab I had some help with Morgan Wallen and post Malone is nominated for that too damn post Malone's coming home with a bunch of [ __ ] totally no matter what yeah that's be tough against Morgan again with the voters and stuff probably I could see artist of the year yeah um I don't know about song of the year who else is artist of the year let me look it up um song artist of the year artist that's another one that I'm kind of like I mean it's I think she deserves it Taylor Swift Eminem your boy my boy Eminem Sabrina Carpenter and Ariana Grande oh damn I mean oh and Bad Bunny and siza got it yeah it seems pretty than I would say Sabrina or or Ari or or Taylor who should win like best new artists cuz I think Sabrina and chapel and all of them are in that right that is so hard to choose I would have a hard time choosing for sure also rumors of that Chapel andh Sabrina are sitting next to each other oh really well did you see that Sabrina like hit up chapel and they hung out to like talk about like their big rise to fame like together no I didn't see oh in the Rolling Stone yeah was like Saina reached out to me like we hung out like it was really nice to talk to another person it's really cool [ __ ] yeah that that Chapel R Rolling Stone interview is really good it's very interesting chap gra Abrams and Tyler oh they're for the three finalists for best I was I guess make it so I guess it was getting enough love um I don't even think she was nominated because it says the road ends here for the other three previously announced candidates for the award Benson Boon shabui and Teddy swims so maybe she's guess six artists were nominated but then three were only brought to fin maybe she's maybe uh not she's not new but maybe she's not new enough so then so then honestly best artist whatever artist of the year I would love that to go to Sabrina obviously we all we want everything to go to Taylor but love for Sabrina to get that get her get her uh she's wored her ass off this year she worked really hard and I would like Gracie Abrams to win Best New Artist thank you yeah true that would be good she big I mean Chapel will yeah Chap and chap will be like no one take a picture of me yeah yeah leave me alone I don't want to go on the stage you know who who is like a good sleeper for that I mean not even a sleeper uh Tyler is she's massive you know what I mean like also in a different Circle than Chapel so I think it's like you know and she's not quite as her fans aren't like as loud so I think it's it is all the the VMAs are based on uh you know online votes and stuff for the fans so it's hard to tell it really just has the biggest loudest most online fan base she had the best me Taylor Wins a lot Tyler Tyler oh God s of time yes that was the best the best like iconic so good didn't La Roach do that or was it a Balman or something I think it was Balman okay okay no yeah La Roach is he he stick with uh Zinda no he helped a couple people I don't remember else who else anyway so um all very exciting now um let's let's do some VMAs magic and we're here oh my God magic it's crazy hello hello uh you're serving reputation realness I I kind of felt like I wanted to well I've had this I bought this as like a a backup for a concert outfit or whatever and I ended up not wearing it but um reputation Vibes we did get major uh I mean not Ma F rep Vibes we certainly are getting like I didn't really get rep Vibes not rep vies but we're getting like we've got darkness which I like you know what like it's still tortured poets for sure but it's still also like Darkness like Chill Vibes bad [ __ ] Vibes which I always am like giving a giving a little bit of reputation of course so the VMAs happened um and uh sest snooze I'm kind of snoozing I am it was the thing like I can't decide what I want out of my VMA because I loved all the performances I thought that they had a good like because it was all my favorite people it was Sabrina Chapel you know I could have done without Camilla and Sean I don't really give a [ __ ] I know like but that's what I mean like Teddy swims was really good but he was only like the middle guy like he didn't get to do a not Teddy swims him too but I love him and he didn't get to do full performance Boon I loved Benson Boon's performance I thought he was fun the flip was a okay very Taylor lner very Taylor lner it's like like why like that song is not a song you flip no it was so bizarre guys love to like throw a flip in when they're performing like I'm not even kidding like I'm sick I can [ __ ] flip no right it's like we get it you're compacted muscular like we we probably knew you could do a flip like before you did a flip like we're not that you know we're not like Blown Away by thep especially when he's like 10 feet up on a piano I mean like you you did a front flip off of a off a platform holy [ __ ] like I could do that probably still with myON either needs the mustache or the curly hair he can't do both like you know he's so cute get so cute I kind of like both I think he looks a little different I think he looks very like old timeing yet modern like he looks like 70s but also like I feel like the kids right now have their hair and mustache like that like people are which is kind of crazy no totally you know I was like there guys's in this office running around one of the interns here I don't know he literally looks like like Ben he does kind of but he doesn't have like the curly hair that goes like over his face as Cur it's not like a Jerry curl it's not like a perm you know I mean like it's a it's he just has like wavy hair but but yeah the the the kids are loving that look right now and um and he's cute but okay so the award show in general like we said K of a snooze but um I I I liked the performances because I liked my faves and I did actually like that they only had like a handful of people accepting Awards and they were just kind of like showing who won in the background like I didn't hate that because I CU sometimes I'm like who the [ __ ] are these people and I also am nervous always cuz you know Taylor Swift won seven Awards imagine if she went up there seven times people would have like been like rolling their eyes and stuff I I definitely get having like some of the awards be not shown because there is a lot especially the ones that tayor won like best like cinematography like that doesn't have to be like shown but like I don't know I felt like there was maybe like four Awards shown on year should have been shown that is it is kind of crazy that that's crazy to me it felt like it was just all performances no Awards I'm like this is an award show what I mean I it is boring the speeches but like yeah artists of the year not being shown is crazy I I am surprised though like I said like what what would have made me happy like a a little more accepting Awards like I don't know I I didn't maybe if the performances weren't so boring I don't know I obviously I love they were just so Chap and Sabrina brought the house down no doubt Sabrina I was like oh my God it made me even more sad that I don't have tickets to her tour because I was like she's about to pop the [ __ ] off was phenomenal and did you see the video of her like um hang waiting and hanging the can you imagine the anxiety Gia I would I don't know if I could do it like I see these performances on stage and obviously these people are so um you know they're they're performers they're well trained like they they' do shows for you know sold out crowds and Chapa Ron is doing stuff for like a million people at once and same with Sabrina open up for Taylor Swift on the ARs tour and whatever yet somehow I still feel like the VMA stage would make me nervous because there's so many of my many and it's iconic but I think that Sabrina so Sabrina came down um on a little a little uh fairy swing singing please please please and then we heard the intro to Oops I did it again um the there's a lot of Britney homages so what I thought I thought the old lady left it in the ocean in the end well baby I went down and got it for you like that was all in there which was cool and there were a lot why was is Britney like there was a lot of Britney I don't know maybe because it was like the 40th so like everyone's like trying to you know pay homage to like some iconic performances but in that's the case Lady Gaga got [ __ ] swept under the rock well right where the [ __ ] right nobody said [ __ ] about Lady Gaga nobody say [ __ ] about Lady Gaga so many people said stuff about Britney that I thought maybe there was like a Britney something going on that I didn't know about Katie Perry won um most iconic like MTV performance that was nuts over yeah over Lady Gaga that that's insane like I I don't agree with that at all but so um so anyway let me talk about the uh Sabrina and travel sa before I forget Sabrina did she did please please please and then transitioned into taste and then ended with espresso but the what's so funny about that and why I'm bringing it up is singing taste in the mouth of camil Cabo and Shawn Mendes is the funniest [ __ ] of all time like I mean V did cook there because having Shawn mendz camil Cabo and Sabrina Carpenter there is abely songs about each other like it's amazing yeah camil Cabo did June Gloom which is like about Sabrina Carpenter and Sean it's so funny what did what was Sean's song some some new song He's going for a new sound he well he just wants to be John Mayer and he always has wanted to be John Mayer and he I won't lie like I think that Shawn Mendes is a talented artist I think that he's a great performer I think he's a cutie like all these things but now knowing this like background stuff with Serina and C Camila and like all this mess that he's bringing to these ladies I kind of have the ick like I and I didn't like there there's nothing other than that that gives me it but I'm just kind of like rolling my eyes like oh please this [ __ ] boy like yeah and I feel like his stick is like a little tired like I don't know I just I feel like his performance like with the candles the acoustic guitar like he's trying to go for like that like indie sound yeah I don't know he wants to be like sexy John Mayor like even his the way he plays guitar like his notes or like when they when it started up I legit thought it was John Mayer and I was like oh my God show Taylor like just see what's going on and it was Shawn Mendes and but I liked that um that he went first like early in the show yeah and then Sabrina like brought the [ __ ] house down and I honestly you know I feel bad for Camila they should have had her go second in that lineup of three because she's just not and it was the end yeah I don't really understand the artistic eye behind that performance neither do I or to be honest her whole album I I I really have a hard time like I don't dislike Camila at all I I think she I've liked a bunch of her songs I think that she's obviously the most talented out of Fifth Harmony like that was everybody knew that but um yeah something about this the New Direction I I it's just not for me I guess but it's now tainted Again by these stories and all the stuff like how she is copying Sabrina in a way that seems uh like mocking like how she dyed her hair and then she's like taking this photos of her as the espresso cover like did you see that thre which I know it's crazy to like be referencing this like random thread of people drawing connections but it is kind of like the connections were were there and like the stuff she was saying the stuff she was doing like this whole research the timing of it you know makes me think that there was stuff going on between there was definitely something going on doubt she's got a complex I think at the moment deal she's she's grieving this like [ __ ] boy Shawn Mendes and she's in some sort of toxic back and forth with him I think yeah I think she was trying to do some thing with like you know she like started off with like the blonde hair era and then she like closed the laptop screen and now she's like back to her brown hair era like back to her original Self I don't know if that was like supposed to be like the thing like I'm going back to the old me I don't know like maybe like he made me like into this like crazy girl who wants to dye her hair blonde I don't know you know what I mean no I kind of think that's what it is I think it's like he made me into this crazy girl once Di and get bangs and look exactly like the girl he's [ __ ] right now like she didn't have Bangs She didn't have blonde hair hair she like got Sabrina's haircut and then made a song and like about Sabrina like it's just I just I will say her you know I mean I love a crazy girl so I'm not but it's it made for a good mess on the stage yeah no totally I just didn't understand like with the camera there like it just looked really messy I do like her new album I will say it's like not that bad there's a few songs that I like I like the well you know the ones on the I love it I love it I love it love whatever the like main part last two albums are so [ __ ] good yeah no fantastic that's why the the latest that just came out is not my fa but that song has um has the sample in it from the which I love that song yeah yeah yeah so I love that so I like that song because I already liked that other song that is basically the whole song so it doesn't really in my opinion count for liking the album but yeah maybe I could maybe I could give it another chance yeah I did see that so we yeah we'll get into we'll get into Taylor and her Fashions because she had several wardrobe changes um well just two during the show and then the Afterparty look as well but um performances let's see so uh Camila Sean Sabrina Messi um think what do you think about um Katy Perry Oh wait Vanguard I honestly have a lot to say first first I want to say uh shout out to Chapel and her performance of good luck babe which was so good she brought down the house like fantastic so that's great um also Chapel yelling at the paparazzi I am um thrilled thrilled I'm on her side for sure don't talk those those people are so disgusting no tell that tell that story that you just told me outside about Noah Khan Noah Khan tweeted like he's like I totally feel chaperone like I went last year with my mom and the way that they were talking to her and I were like so oh yeah I'll never forget leaving Clive Davis and the horrific [ __ ] photographers and Paparazzi or whatever were saying to me in front of my sweet mom who couldn't believe it was actually happening love this at CH way to stay up stand up for yourself hell yeah cuz it's true those pop rsy are [ __ ] disgusting I swear what are they do telling her to shut up you know what is something I I forget if I've said this on the Pod before I don't know if I have so my first job in New York I worked at I I you know I won't say names because I'm about to talk [ __ ] but I worked at a company where I was I was uh it was my job to make sure that we had we had a couple like photographers that we would use to cover events so we could use their photos as like a host on our website similar to how like Getty does and a lot of these photographers would be freelance and they would also work for Getty or Patrick McMullen which is another um another thing that hosts photos and um you know whatever so we would sometimes hire these people whenever I had to work with these photographers like there were there were maybe two or three that were really cool and nice and normal the other ones that were like older and a little more old school like there a lot of them were like in even at the time this is 2013 were like in their late 40s early 50s like just old school like gross Paparazzi whatever they were the way that they like carried themselves and acted and talked about celebrities and talked about these events and how they were going to them always rubb me the wrong way and so I always like think of those people and I thought like maybe that's just the people I was working with there was a couple guys who I just was like you're gross I don't like you at all and um but now whenever I see these things happening and I I think of those people and I'm not surprised at all because the these photographers like they don't view the celebrities or it's a job for them like my job is to get here get a photo upload it to Getty as fast as possible and get [ __ ] paid and so they'll if they have to scream at a celebrity to do it they have to embar someone's mom on the carpet like they'll do it and it's just gross to me it's gross I don't like it where's the etiquette yeah no there's where's the respect did you see that video of Lana Del re like freaking out at the paparazzi in Europe like the other day love that though yeah no she was like I'm here with my family like I only have a couple hours like you've been following me nonstop like please just stop [ __ ] following me yeah yeah it's like I always feel like celebrities are painted as like rude or crazy or whatever like when they like yell at Paparazzi even like Kanye was like [ __ ] you like when he's like have a good day Kanye and he's like [ __ ] you yeah no honestly I don't blame I don't blame Kanye like when when those guys were going up to him asking him [ __ ] about his family and stuff we hate Kanye here but nobody that's not right me you can't you can't do it's just like the harassment from these photographers and even like coming from someone who like very briefly worked in the production field like I just feel like those older production guys like camera guys like they just like have like a stick up their ass like they think that they're like I don't know if they don't like like the a new wave of like young young producers they don't like that they're they're almost out of a job because everybody can use their [ __ ] cell phone yeah nobody nobody needs them and it's like I remember like the those guys would work at they'd come in and they'd be like well people are because you know cell phones were there and they were using real cameras and whatever and they'd be like you can't get this kind of stuff with cell phones because we would then send like interns and you know influencers it was again 2013 so it was kind of before that or right in the middle of that and so socials yeah like social right we were sociales and so we'd send like our own in-house people sometimes me which is how I got to go to all cool events at the time when I first moved to New York like to take photos and stuff to post on our personal or to post on our company page and I remember these older photographers being like why would you like that's just you know when you get have a good quality photo like why would you do that and my head I'm like you don't care about the quality of the photo you care about getting [ __ ] paid and they they just were always so like obsessed with with like you know they I don't know just the bad attitudes all around so I'm I'm happy that people are standing up and I think that we talked about this recently I forget if it was on the Pod or just in conversation about how or maybe I was talking I don't know about how it's crazy that um that more celebrities haven't like freaked the [ __ ] out like shave their head Britney Spear style and like beat the [ __ ] out of I think like last week but yeah no it is crazy to me like because I don't I think maybe we were talking about the chapelon stuff when she was like saying don't take pictures of me whatever but yeah no I I I would lose my absolute mind if I was that big of a celebrity so I I really it's shocking to to me that that majority of these I mean but I also feel it's like these child starts that's why I'm so interested about Tam lad's um like new show coming out but so true Sam I I'll watch anything that because she's so honest about everything I love watching her stuff yeah a little too honest but but I I like like it like I it's so interesting how transparent she is and yeah it's just it's it's good [ __ ] but I'm interested in that too but it's just it's it's crazy to me that more people haven't like told Pap rzi shut the [ __ ] up and Stu cuz sometimes you just snap and you know honestly respect to celebrities because I would never be able to bite my tongue like that no me neither never a millionaires um so yeah we're we're Team Chapel on this one yeah definitely team Chapel um but okay yes so Katy Perry the reason I wanted to to talk about that first is because I I feel like I have a lot of thoughts and feelings about Katy Perry that I can't really process through and I want your opinion on a couple of things even though and they might sound really like [ __ ] coming from me but you know part of the course I know if I'm being like cynical or if I'm being like if you know if I'm if I'm making sense I'm I'm perceiving this correctly I feel like we probably have the same Ops on Katie yeah so okay number one I have always liked Katy Perry I had no issue with her I sometimes think that her like her characters or whatever a little cheese and like a little juvenile humor not so much for me like I but I like I think her as a person and her sense of humor is funny and I think that she like tries really hard yeah I think for a while she kind of you know she's doing American Idol she's she's kind of in a new chapter in her life whatever no problem with it blah blah blah I think she's struggling really hard with the time between her her last album and the newest album and is trying really hard to show that she's still like young and cool and hit yeah and I think that she's doing a lot of things and saying a lot of things that are kind of almost proving the opposite you know what I mean like she like I don't know but so but I will say I thought the Orlando Bloom introducing her was really sweet very sweet I thought that her speech was pretty good like when she was being normal and whatever her perform her performance was great too um don't think she should have won that that like iconic performance award we talked about that Lady Gaga should have won that um I have to say her starting out being like and I did all this on day one on my period like I laughed cuz relatable but at the same time I felt like Katie you're just you want us to know you still have your period like that's that's like how I and that's the [ __ ] thing like that's being a [ __ ] for being like Katie we we don't think you're that old like you don't have to be like by the way I still have my period like that's kind of how it felt so what do you think about those talks no I I agree with majority no and yeah I laughed at that period joke too relatable first a period like that's hard but like yeah it's it's hard it just doesn't feel authentic almost in away from her she's like trying really hard to just like show she's young I feel like she was like this you know kind of out there a little runchy but not really you know pop star and yeah she had that break yeah and I don't know it feels like just from albums she was the Rebrand oh yeah yeah the it just feels like the Rebrand wasn't the right choice like I don't know what I would have went with if I was in Katy Perry's shoes but like going with like the futuristic like sex wet hair like big wings I don't know it just felt it just felt for Katy Perry who's known for doing things over the top yeah it just felt like she's 39 I don't know inauthentic I don't really know how to describe it it just feels like I I agree completely I think that she is not something I have said before about barol and about um like being here and having been here for a while and other people who have been here for a while is that I think very much that a lot of us have grown with our audience you know and it's like so I wouldn't be talking and doing the same [ __ ] that I was doing when I was 25 like I'm not talking about getting [ __ ] up at the club and like hung over on wine and stuff which like you know those I still have those moments those days but it's not every day and it's not the only thing I talk about anymore so it's that kind of you know and so I feel like Katy Perry kind of like had the opportunity to Rebrand into like and kind of grow with her audience and we're old now like I mean we all loved when when Katy Perry was popping off on the scene I was in high school and I was like this is my [ __ ] she's amazing I kissed a girl so good and I just feel like right now me watching all that like I'm kind of I'm exhausted watching it and I'm also kind of like girl you know relax like give it up a little bit like what are we doing here like you can still be sexy and like and like you know do it that way yeah at whatever age literally but like it just felt with the with the I think it was the the whole like futuristic whatever it felt very genz so it felt like an older woman trying to into AZ mold and like she should have just stuck with her with her thing with her thing or again re like Rebrand or like you know have this rebirth into something that's a little more appropriate and I and I hate the idea of being like be age appropriate but sometimes you have to be age appropriate you know what I mean she can still be hot and sexy and still be hot and sexy and be age appropriate and you can also still appeal to genen Z without having to like copy their [ __ ] and like be like be like that like if I like showed up in like Al you know what I mean like I try to kind of cross the bridge when it comes to you know humor and and um you know topics and stuff that like Jen's interested in but I'm so far from it and I know and I don't try to be that but you but when you try to be that is when it becomes like embarrassing and so when she went on uh call her daddy that I didn't watch that whole thing did you watch did you watch any I want to watch I just saw the one clip of we're talking about Dr Luke and I was like this [ __ ] [ __ ] which was [ __ ] I think [ __ ] honestly that's what leaves a bad tast in everyone's mouth about this Rebrand whatever you're going to make a song called Woman's World and then have [ __ ] Dr Luke on the album and then give the most [ __ ] mhm like uh PR answer not even PR just a total skirt of the question EXA Cooper didn't double down so we got nothing she just said oh I worked with a lot of collaborators like this this album is really important to me okay how about you address the question of you working with someone who was very publicly accused of sexual assault from someone who like really went through it and a well another well respected pop artist in your world and Lady Gaga like who's also in your world she was like she was behind her it's just so disrespectful for her to to uh you know use him for a hit because you know he did Teenage Dream he did this that whatever is it worth it no clearly not because that song [ __ ] flopped cuz and and I think really what it is in that you know [ __ ] response she gave to Alex Cooper it was something along the lines of like I wanted to recreate the magic of of Teenage Dream of California Girls of all the all of my other like moments in time and so I brought back everyone that's ever worked with me before so that was her big like blanket statement being like if you worked with me before I worked with you this time but it's like you can work with literally [ __ ] everybody you want except for this dude because at this point like you are like that alone tells me you're so desperate to like stay relevant or like recreate the magic or whatever that you're you're a sexual convicted sexual assaulter not convicted sorry take it back take it back what what what what happened they uh had to do a settlement oh God they came to like a yeah ha I hate when that should happens all right so a he was whatever alleged alleged and and still regardless he's a scumbag we all know he's a scumbag Kesha told us that Lady Gaga told us that M other I feel like I feel like it's pretty obvious like in the in the music world that he's just gone back yeah and I just don't think that anyone is worth sabotaging your own reputation in order to hopefully maybe recreate some of the magic from 15 years ago like girl it's just dumb and you're right like that I we I don't even think I would be feeling any type of way about this performance at all or even these feelings of like she's trying too hard and she's not age appropriate if that first Domino didn't fall it feels so inauthentic like so inauthentic and there's a reason why feel bad cuz I you know she's she was great and she like could still be great I don't I just don't get why she's doing this um what is the name of her first ever album is it I kissed a girl is her first ever album um called or hold on let me look it up it's literally the best album like one of the best pop albums ever why is it so hard to find Katy Perry I'm on I'm [ __ ] oh one of the boys one of the boys is one of literally the best Waking Up in Vegas thinking of you you're so gay hot and cold if you can afford me like these things are so these songs Teenage Dream is one of the best pop albums of all time no doubt fantastic fantastic Last Friday Night TJ Teenage Dream California Girls firework peacock Circle the Drain The One That Got Away ET Pearl Hummingbird Heartbeat not like the movies like just hit and no skips hits after hits after two Alum two albums in a row no skips she's the only artist or female I don't know if it's artist in general or female artist to have five number one hits from one album like clearly she had something amazing but it's just so interesting because as the albums go on they just get worse and worse do and so right so we go right from we uh the jump from teenage one one of the boys is ' 08 Teenage Dream is 09 and then we jump to prism 2012 and prism still has dark hor Dark Horse birthday's a banger like those but okay just a couple unconditionally is actually pretty good s there it goes all the way to witness 2017 smile just [ __ ] flopped so bad witness has Swit Swit and I think that's the only oh and Bone Appetit I guess yeah those songs were yeah those songs were kind of weird smile I couldn't tell what like I don't know I guess never really over is the only song I know from this oh yeah I like that song she has a song called champagne problems oh really on her 2020 album oh interesting I didn't know that damn that sucks and then right and then after that it's life times and that's or that's a song that's a single yeah 143 is the name of the album coming up seven days got it I see I see right okay Woman's World gimme gimme and there's only like 10 songs on the album yeah and and it's like you know I'm not writing Katy Perry off and and stomping her into the dirt or anything like that and you know if she has a couple good songs on this new album whatever but so far the ones we've heard are not it and and it's very clear that like right this this desperation is is getting in the way of her authenticity and her work and I think that she's better than that she's more talented than that and um and if she can't be that talented without Dr Luke then maybe she's not that talented maybe it's maybe it was him maybe it's you know what I mean that's a fact and um you know if you're telling me that Dr Luke was Katy Perry's Jack anof then it's like well you got to find a new one [ __ ] like you got to call up literally anyone literally anyone call up Max Martin call up you know why Max Martin wonder if Max Martin like wouldn't work with her I don't know yeah I know where the how how far the Bad Blood extends like obviously Katie and Taylor are fine Taylor was dancing uh to her performances she standing ovation she's excited clapping for her as she's accepting her award and giving her speech like happy to see that beef squashed but um but yeah and you know what thank God I'm I'm uh happy to not see people being like look at this [ __ ] like clapping for Katy Perry that monster like I expected as soon as I saw clapping for her I was like oh great here we go now we're going to get the people up on off of Taylor Swift's ass again but not I haven't seen that so I feel yeah everyone clap for her like she won the Vanguard like you can't not get clap course of course and she deserves it she deserves it totally deserves that award 100% 100% this one thing like [ __ ] sucks it's the Rebrand yeah it's the reand Rebrand and the working with Dr Luke that's like the double the double whammy where you're just like like it's just like it leaves a bad taste in your mouth exactly another thing I wanted to bring up that I think you can shed light on um during ktie Perry's performance um and we're only seeing the Cs of it during that I'm sure it happened throughout the rest of the show because I you'll explain um Jack antinoff was people thought that he was putting in headphones during her performance to like the one-sided beef they have with each other and then he doesn't want to listen and then when she was done whatever and I know because of you that it's a it's like a music thing and it's probably earplugs will can you please explain yeah no I saw that clip too and I was assuming that he's putting in earplugs too as someone who suffers from very bad ear d uh uh my I perforated my eardrum in my right ear so I have ttis like so bad so I when I go out I wear earplugs and when I go to concerts and stuff I wear earplugs so yeah he probably was feeling he he definitely has tontis if I have to guess if anyone in the world has ttis it's Jack an off for sure and which is just the constant ringing in your ears and you get it from like when your ears are exposed to loud noises for like too long um like I'm sure you've experienced it after a concert like you come home and your ears are [ __ ] ringing absolutely that happened to me except for like a month straight right yeah yeah yeah like I've had those moments but not enough for I need to yeah yeah yeah but it is too and it's especially their front row protection loud as [ __ ] something that everybody should be careful about because the speakers these days are so [ __ ] loud so loud it's really dangerous for your ears and like I have hearing loss like I feel like and I use my earplugs a lot I it's just with the way that like concerts go these days and if you're standing close to speakers like you got to be careful forget it yeah so yeah I don't know I thought people were like uh is he putting in like um in ears to like perform oh I didn't see that I only saw the haters I only saw the they were like him and his wife for doing it Margaret quali who was there looking adorable by way they were probably just like they probably just both he probably got her on the ear plot B like you got to protect your ear prot your ears especially too like someone like Jack anof you know his ears are part of his job like like they say uh uh piano players be careful with your hands surgeons be careful with your hands like that's your those are your instruments those are your your tools and his ears are important to him so yeah if he's putting in headphones for Katy peris's performance it's not cuz he's throwing [ __ ] shade idiots hilarious I didn't even I didn't realize that there was discourse around I just saw over my side I think I'm I'm truly in the like the the pits of Hell on Twitter like I see the worst people so funny and that was one of I wanted bring that so funny if he just put in like [ __ ] noise blocking headphones he puts like the big over ear ones on he's like [ __ ] this [ __ ] and he holds up a phone and it's like playing fortnite yeah that would be so [ __ ] up absolutely crack me the [ __ ] up um um okay so should we get into Fashions Taylor we haven't really talked about like anything about bmas totally the whole time she won seven Awards seven Awards read them yeah um major award artists of the Year video of the Year best pop best collaboration which we didn't think she was going to win no weong of the summer best Direction and best editing love it and you know they could have shown a couple more of these Awards on stage I would have liked to see her a little bit more on the stage but hey I do understand like best editing best Direction like I don't know do those really need uh you know to be shown on the stage of EMAs I don't think so but like artist of the year best pop like that would have been fun to see song of the summer like that would have been fun to see was espresso espresso was a nom song of the year okay song of the year she won and she won and that was her her first VMA like her first you know whatever SL she um showed up in a yellow green plaid very much fortnite Dior Resort collection um here here are my thoughts on the outfit I thought her hair and makeup looked outrageously fantastic fantastic like just so so good I'm very curious to know if she does a like a a layer of hair for the carpets because later on she changed her outfit we'll talk about that in a minute and her hair doesn't look quite as full like it still looks full and long and big but when she comes in on that carpet whatever she's doing her hair if whether it's teased or if she has like a a layer of of uh whatever extensions like blow or something like a quick clip in that maybe she takes out later for when she's dancing like a maniac but I I need to like know what the [ __ ] she does because the volume is outrageous it's just so fantastic and her makeup looked insane I wonder if she used um Blake Brown by Blake what was it called oh yeah what's it called Bobby Blake yeah Brown It's called like Blake Brown Blake Brown yeah something like that like brown by Blake I don't really isn't that her like last name right yeah Blake Lively Hair Care Blake brown brown Blake it's called Blake Brown yeah Blake Brown yeah yeah yeah yeah I wonder if right did she have Blake her hair before she babe hold on wait hold on wait like shaking baby syndrome like straight so funny I do you know you know the game dress to impress yeah of yeah because youve been talking about it this outfit is kind of giving dress to impress like I could recreate this outfit perfectly on dress to impressing I really like the whole outline of it I I'm just not a huge plaid lady so I I I'm not loving the Plaid but the the the structure of the outfit I am obsessed with I I agree I don't dislike plaid I don't love yellow pla yeah yellow and green is combo yeah like again it didn't look it didn't look bad people were saying it was like you know clueless Vibes a little bit which I like that yellow plaid on share horowits that's like a good a good yellow plaid but yeah I don't know but I think the look I think what she was going for this like steampunk like cool Vibes torture poets like whatever I think it was very tort poet yeah her shoes for uh Stuart whitesman I believe um let me double check I was looking up this morning and um and yeah she just did a uh she looked she looked stunning yes boots were Stuart whitesman the whole outfit was um Dior Resort 2025 love and then uh and yeah she slayed the carpet oh and I loved the um she had like a a choker that was a part of the outfit corset top so you know her her boobs are popping out boobs Bo boobs were boobing got get me I got to get me a top like that for a real for r I I I got to get me whatever she got whatever she's got going on I know I think it's I think it's like very creative like push-ups and padding and stuff because she I mean I don't know but it's it's we don't have like the same body type we're both tall and we're all like tall we're tall girls with like kind of small boobs and it's like how is she doing this like how is she making this work so well so anyway um then she halfway through the show had a wardrobe change and changed into a um a custom mons m o NS e dress and um it was inspired by uh from the mons Runway and it's a picture of two people staring up at a spaceship yeah UFO and she had it yeah the UFO and she had it uh custom made with like bedazzles and Beads and stuff and tell you what like maybe this is us or maybe this is me being ridiculous the people look like Taylor and Travis like I saw your Tweet it's so funny it really does yeah and so she had that and then right after went to the vma's Afterparty and then wore I believe another Mon's dress that was um had sleeves and the same image on it same image yeah without the beating beating yes I was obsessed with this outfit obsessed with the beaded dress I love a beaded dress like I just love a Beed an intricately beaded dress me too so I was obsessed with this outfit I loved the UFO portrayal down bad that people think it's down bad it's going to be like a the next single and it's going to be announced and this is her her doing that that I also kind of love that this this Afterparty outfit first of all very similar to the dress she wore at the show that she changed into the it's like a it looks like a corset top and a skirt and the skirt has um and like buckles buckles just like the straps did and so of the top and the straps on the other dress the Bea dress also had that but what's cool about it is she has it's like a zip up over it do you see that yeah I didn't it was a zip up Jack it like matches yeah I didn't realize it was a zip up literally until just now I just saw a photo of it from like a different angle and it's like a hoodie a zip up Hoodie with like the same that's awesome with cool boots and everything so she's uh she's looking great but yet people think that maybe that down battle be announced as like the next single and that's her you know being like hey like about down bad because that's obviously the song she sings when she's got the spaceship yeah for Cosmic Love I think that was one of my favorite of her award show looks the Ed dress it was just so so cool so pretty I thought it was Cleo at first yeah it GES Cleo Midnight's dress and her and her new year's dress yeah yeah um Cleo pep the big moment of the night the big moment when she accepted the award for video of the year she brings up post Malone and two other of the people that worked on the video with her she's thanking everyone do you know those guys names I don't know um um Ethan Hawk was Ethan on stage with her no but the guy stage but yeah she Oh I thought you were talking about the uh poet Department oh oh no no no right I don't remember the name of the I remember her de that she worked with besides postone but so she brought them all up on stage then she goes uh every time we'd be filming this music video and we would stop or I'd yell cut or whatever she sorry not to cut you off before she was just like um everyone thinks that this music video was so sad and it was so sad to like make yeah and then she was like yes she was like it was sad it's a sad thing if you watch it and you thought it was sad to make but it act but actually like we I'd yell cut or whatever and from far away or from wherever I'd hear someone yelling woo and clapping and she goes and that was my boyfriend Travis my the way she said it she's like my boyfriend Travis she literally said it like that and I wasy dying dying was really cute is this the first time we've heard her say his name yes right % I was saying this to Fran Jessica because I feel like Swifty's always joke like you know Travis has called her his girlfriend that's my baby uh that's my significant other whatever tay tay tay tay tay he talk about her all day long yeah and she's only called him the guy in the Chiefs yes but now my boyfriend now he's my boyfriend Travis which is so [ __ ] cute but um and you know what I I want to get the exact line because I don't want to I don't want to it's the exact line of it is so perfect let's see CHS has the has a quote card I think of it yes it says she said my boyfriend Travis everything this man touches turns to happiness fun and Magic so I want to thank him for adding that to our shoot a what I loved is that in the background those two guys and post Malone all when she said my boyfriend Travis they all like laughed and clapped and whatever so that's how you know that that was real like she's not just making Shone was laughing really hard right exact yeah it was such a cute little shout out moment and and I feel like um someone had a funny tweet it was like uh she got up to the podium and she did not forget to say his name no yeah it was right and um I just I feel like the way that she described it everything he touches like turns to happiness and Magic it's just like such a nice thing to say about someone and it really does feel like based off I mean obviously we don't know but based off the pictures based off the videos of them like when they're together it just seems like they have such a good time together like they just genuinely enjoying each other's company can't take their hands off each other they're just so like obsessed and it's just so cute and like yeah it just gives you butterflies it gives makes you giddy like cuz you know how she must be feeling like saying like on that stage like my boyfriend tra is like of course what's a big thing it's it's such a big thing and like it's so cute and like it just makes everyone like ah blush it's so sweet it was it was perfect and I think to it being the VMAs and and the video itself of course is like it it is it's a sad song it's a sad video it's about this like two week trist that turned your world upside down and and you know post Bone's the star and it's got It's like heavy feeling yeah it's like takes place in an insan totally like it's heavy feeling and she has these like intimate moments with post Malone in the in it and it's it's like to be able to have a boyfriend who can be there like cheering you on watching you direct this music video do these things and these pieces and like explore these moments of your own reality and just be cheering you on has to feel so good you know like just it just has to feel amazing and like I'm sure like yeah the way she described it like you know like on the other side of Studio like I can just in my head like he's just there to like support his girl like you know he doesn't like get too involved he doesn't he's not like giving his two cents yeah yeah exactly like he's just there to woo like he's he's like the professional hype man and exact and I really love that and yeah it was just so cute really and I think it's funny because like there was a split second where she had like a little bit of a smirk and I was like like what's about to happen just for a second little smirk myself I recorded myself for the whole thing I didn't post it cuz I look so stoned like I was I took two Edibles and I'm so hot like so high look I'll show it to you that's hilarious I I like got up and turned my light on but like look how high I am you can't even you like your eyes are literally like half open your eyes that's hilarious ious I like can't post it cuz it's like I just look so stun I know I was on FaceTime with my man and he screenshotted my reaction yeah that's hilarious that's hilarious I was I was so we were literally the same literally just like absolutely it was just we'll take we'll post our screenshots that we'll post our screenshot of our crazy eye I will um but that was really really cute and I feel like since she didn't have like a or no but like it was nice of her to give us like a little thing to freak out over because you know like there's I we both knew that there was going to be no it was 911 and you know first thing she said when she came up to she she accepted the first like on stage Award of the night and she went up there and was like I just want to say like we're in New York City you know it's 911 like let's think about this and whatever and then like which which was nice which I thought smart and good and nice and thoughtful and everything and then she went on to like literally again she directed that music video and she went on to like thank every other person give everyone else credit give everyone else like she's just so like she's the best she she's so like um thankful I guess yeah and and and I love uh I love seeing how much she respects everyone that she works with and her bringing up post Malone and saying like it took me forever to get him to stop calling me ma'am yeah and he like and then he's like ma'am okay ma'am thank you ma'am like immediately I think that's that's a a cute Dynamic and like a fun a fun friendship so I love that and congrats to post who is who was always going to win a couple Awards either way last night and um he's crushing it right now she did say something nice she was like I understand why every single artist wants to collaborate with with Austin and um post real name by the way and um it's true like I forgot that he also was on Beyonce's album oh my God yeah you're right I completely forgot about that Levi jeans great song yep great song one of my favorites on the album yeah um so yeah so he's just he's at the top of top of the top right now and we're we're happy him G mhm and yeah Taylor brings all her friends to the summit I do kind of wish there was a little Taylor Sabrina moment I didn't see them interact maybe there pictures online I didn't see anything but well so I wanted to ask you what do you think about the fact that they they really didn't show her a lot which I'm sure Sabrina no uh Taylor oh yeah which I'm sure was a relief for her and then also they kind of showed her going in and out like she wasn't really at her seat they like kept showing this one clip of her like walking by the camera and I was like where is she going but yeah she was like missing like people were tweeting like she was was missing for like an hour yeah for a while and then she came back at she was gone for like I would say half the show and then she came she like accepted the war in the beginning was there for a while there through like Carol G's performance and like kind of hung out but then she was gone until she accepted the word at the end and Katy Perry she was she for Kat yeah I don't know maybe she was just chilling backstage maybe she was in and out do we think maybe she was hanging out back there so they didn't show her every five minutes maybe can I ask you even malfunction possibly can I ask you a bigger question question do we think that Taylor worked with MTV ahead of time as to when she was going to be going up like on how many awards she was going to go up for because and I think this maybe because of artists of the year not being there like do you think ahead a time they're like Taylor you won these seven Awards and she's like that's too many I'll go up for these two you know I mean I don't think that maybe but I think I think they tell her like I think they decide what awards are going to be shown I don't know if if she kind feel runs the show at this point honestly probably she's the most uh most awarded artist at this point for the D and she's the draw like we're saying we were bored cuz they barely showed Taylor like and you know like that's kind of I wonder if she was like listen I'll go I'll bring ratings I'll do all the [ __ ] um I know I'm winning a bunch of these awards are the you know it's fan votes so the fans are crazy obviously she's going to win a bunch but you think she's like I'll go up for a couple but I don't want to go up for the controversial ones like I only want to go up for fortnite like I don't want to go up for myself because artist of the year would be like for Taylor not for I don't know though like why would you not want to accept artists of the year like I feel like she's kind of like you know not trying to draw more attention to herself like I feel like she draws enough attention that she doesn't need to then like Showboat you know what I mean I don't know I I just have a feeling I just yeah I I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case but to me what I was thinking at least was that and is kind of maybe trying to cater more to like younger the younger audience so they just jam-packed in performances rather than Awards because they're like oh they don't want to pay attention to people speaking they'd rather watch but also yeah I don't know I feel like she definitely I feel like MTV definitely says like hey you're winning tonight so like you should be there because it's obvious because like um for like uh best new artists like choon was there graci Abrams wasn't there and I and Tyler was there but it was very obvious won an award later on yeah it's very obvious that Gracie was not going to win because she wasn't there right so like I do think that there's definitely some communication but I I I don't see a world where Taylor's like I I I just I don't know because that is that really like I don't really know the words that I'm trying to look for honestly like authentic like it just it just I don't see a world she like doesn't want to accept an award on stage I guess yeah I I think it's like of course she wants to accept Awards on stage but I feel like with Taylor she accepts so many awards every award show that knowing her you know anxiety that she said out loud of being like the Anno like the one that people are sick of and the one that people are like oh God again or whatever and when the block is so hot and like all this stuff maybe she's like listen I'll do this and I'll come up for a couple but I don't want to be on stage the whole time because ultimately her being on stage the whole time is good for MTV and not so much it just opens her up for more conversation every time she says something talks gives a speech thanks people like whatever so she had like the one and again both the awards were for fortnite and all the awards that were like Taylor only she didn't go up there herself like they were not announced which only that's the only reason why I kind of thought that I was like I wonder if she was like Hey listen I just want to focus on like you know the video with post and just do that because the first one she got she obviously thanked all the people that worked on the video and then also um or best collaboration was so complimentary of post and then the video of the year one she thanks all the people you know Ethan Hawk etc etc and then throws in the Travis thank you at the end so I kind of feel like it was a perfect amount of speeches from her of time from her where like people aren't dissecting oh my God she didn't hug Selen Dion you know what I mean like I feel it gets to a point where people just want to hyper analyze everything she's doing and if I'm her I'm like you know I'll do you a favor MTV by showing up and going up there a couple times but I'm not going to go up there five times just for your ratings yeah yeah yeah yeah that makes sense totally if it were me that's what I would do yeah yeah maybe that's why I'm thinking that right yeah yeah but know of course she wants to like she you know she still took her picture with all of her moonmen at the end and everything so you know she loves an award that's that goes That's goes yeah yeah yeah it was interesting to to think about where she went for that long like maybe she was just chilling I don't know yeah maybe she's chilling I totally see that like it would be crazy if they made her go up like five [ __ ] times or four times it's just a lot so yeah that that that does make sense and she was the I think the highest winner of the night as well yeah right seven yeah yeah so she beat be and she beat Beyonce for most in total yeah in total and she also is the only artist to win video of the year five times yep yep yep yep 40 Moon men that's so many so many I loved that there was a thing going around saying that Taylor S won more uh moonmen last night then Kanye has in his entire career sorry yeah it's always little things like that where I'm like me too I just got I'm just like whatever like [ __ ] yeah yeah oh speaking of H megga stallion did a good job as a host yeah she did do a good job she was funny and I liked her outfits me too they were Silly and she's a good time I really like her a lot her performance was good too yeah so good she slays she is a stallion Beyond stalling her body is [ __ ] insane you see those videos of her working out holy [ __ ] she could beat the [ __ ] out of me I would not I if I had to choose like choose a fighter on your behalf she'd be a candidate like yeah let's go beat somebody she is her legs are so strong oh my God yeah she she is uh so beautiful and so so baddy yeah I was obsessed with all of her homage outfits me too and she has some funny moments and um she talked about Taylor in an article so I'm sure she was excited to be with her for a second cuz she was like she was like Taylor's a stallion like she's really tall too she's hottie yeah yeah yeah I loved her I when she was like you know shout out to all my hotties and also to my haters I know you watching too yeah she's funny tell them she and she's been so disrespected I feel like by like the industry abut absolutely by the by the other like other men in her in her yeah in her genre men are so disrespectful to her it's in her genre it's crazy like I don't understand it at all but you know whatever yeah um but yeah all in all I give the VMAs a 6.2 out of 10 I I think I'm exactly there with you maybe like a maybe like a 6.7 because I did really like the per I I loved chapel and Sabrina completely carried it for me in terms of performances and I do wish maybe we got like a sappy performance I feel did we we didn't right like a sad one I love like a sad Soulful like I need you to lose you love me to love love to love love you know that was that was like a like a dramatic yeah yeah yeah an all too well 10-minute version yeah we could maybe that was supposed to be Shawn Mendes but like he didn't really do that he didn't pull it out for us at all no no no he did he looked like he was having fun on stage though um and that's all that matters yeah that's all that matters all right I think that wraps up the VMAs yeah yes Voicemails/DMs fabulous all right so hope you enjoyed our our VMAs recap now let's get into our voicemails and DMS from the people hi this is Kelly I am a huge fan of you guys um I've been following along for a while now and I know in the last episode you guys touched Bas about how you know terrorist doesn't have to speak out against Trump or for comma what have you and while I agree she's not like the spokesperson for the people I do think statistically like she does have the PLL to like rally voters to even just register um and that turnout for the Tennessee election was like majorly because of her so I wonder now since she went and posted about voting for kamla and Tim Walls if you guys have any thoughts on her next steps do we feel like she'll be involved do you feel like this is just her statement and then she's moving on from it um just curious if you think that there's going to be any more uh political activism by our Queen all right thanks love you guys great question great great question and um I'm honestly I'm torn my my gut tells me no like no performances or anything but I think the US usage of her songs we're going to hear her songs a bunch yeah I think we're definitely going to yeah we're definitely going to hear her songs and C in campaign or um at like rallies and stuff like that I I do wonder if did was it Beyonce that performed for like the Biden campaign at some like event or something something I think or when he won I don't remember she might have performed at the White House yeah I I somebody perform the White House I wouldn't be shocked if she did do a performance I I feel like she cares a lot for sure and I don't know a performance is a lot I wouldn't expect it soon I would I would almost say performance like if she wins yeah yeah yeah I think that I think it's it'd be more like that only because like but I could see a lot of like social media I could see her maybe doing like another like a story you know some reminders about registering to vote whatever I don't know like you know go on a new she won't like go on an interview thing and and talk about her or anything like that but I I am curious to see if she will do some sort of in-person I don't know like I'm Taylor I'm voting for kamla like I don't know at a rally or like something I don't know you know you know how vote.org does commercials every year and they're like I'm blah blah blah and I'm registered to vote and they don't literally say like I'm voting blue but they're like put on by the by the Democrats and um I think the the likelihood of her doing something like that is yeah pretty high yeah but I I almost uh my my fears are like you know don't overdo it like don't don't poke the bear kind of thing because I worry about people just like you know getting so getting frustrated and whatever like I'm just scared of those freaks I think that's what it is I think I'm just scared I'm scared you know like I I hate well yeah and she's coming back to the US so like the US she's doing concerts you know starting in October so that's another thing like once she's back on tour it becomes a she's going to be a lot busier but also becomes a thing where it's like people will know where she is and and all of her fans are do you think she's going to say like register to vote at one of her shows like I don't know I could like lowkey see her do that during like the champagne problem speech just being like there's a lot of things going on in this world like yeah just make sure you're registering to vote like I don't know maybe maybe like a surprise song like um only the young Only the Young yeah could be like right not a bad idea didn't she do like an Only the Young that song was for Miss Americana yeah right so that would be cool that' be a a subtle way to incorporate it that's not too over the head and real swifties know but the song me it's like you don't have to freak out about it um I would it would be subtle and effective I think if whatever it is that she if and when you know she does something else uh other than this I think it will be subtle and impactful greated mhm okay only that's a good one k hi Gia it's Jen um love the new episode I just finished watching it and uh first of all congratulations on hitting your first parlay That's so exciting can't wait to see what you ladies take for Thursday thanks Queen and uh Gia the guy in the new commercial with Jason that is Bo Allen from I guess he was on Eagles too I think he was on the Super Bowl team they won yeah they talk about it when he was on New Height but other than that I wanted to say I totally agree with you guys like all of Taylor's outfits the past you know God it feels like forever but it was only a few days holy [ __ ] um just amazing her stylist is actually a guy named Joseph Castell faler um I think he's been working with her for like 12 years or something like that it's a long time he's in um when she's like trying to put on the earrings and she can't like raise her arms up enough he's the guy who's like helping her out so cute um but anyway he's on Instagram you can find him Joseph Cassel one is his username and he has a bunch of like he just posted the other day Taylor's uh wagler outfit for opening night and he's got like other compilations of stuff that I guess he like worked on with her mhm uh and some a store stuff so really fun but yeah all the outfits are amazing um what do we think about uh predictions for like how far wagler is going to go this year so last year we ended up we got the puffer jacket with Kelsey all over it what do we think are we G to get more like that I would love to see it love you ladies bye thanks Jen love you um I I think that we'll definitely get some like awesome looks coming forward like I think that it's they're they're probably all planned out I mean based off the first based off the first one that she pulled out like she's she's it's only got to be bigger and better from here I feel like obviously there's some game days where you're like H and it's going to get cold so like you know you got bundle she bundle up towards the end something interesting about Jo so Joseph casselle yeah Joseph Cassell Falconer which I I can't believe um I got so many DMS people being like this is the guy and everybody sent me his thing something interesting that I never really thought about is uh he gives uh makeup and hair credits as well so I followed him and I followed the lady that does her makeup and she she uh who Lor Turk Lori Turk yes I followed her too and um and she does the makeup for aerosur it looks like like she's you know she does really does all she does like re I've always wondered and I think that that's another one we like we knew we know that she like uses Pat McGrath makeup and stuff and like we we know bits and pieces but I think that's just someone I didn't pay enough attention to and I'm happy now that that we know Joseph casselle and uh what's her name Lori Lori Turk Lori Turk and so and someone named Gemma Meridan did her hair did her hair for the game so uh and we don't know if I don't know how frequently she CU she doesn't have an Instagram or she's not tagged or something so I don't know how frequently she does hair but um she did her hair for the AOS tore it seems like oh amazing yeah go girl Gemma Meridan she has a she has a t she she wasn't tagged in that one um oh so I'll follow her too then yeah no I want to um Taylor in a trais sky Jersey absolutely like styled cool for sure yeah styled cool maybe with some jeans B big chunky belt something like that or maybe a jersey maybe like literally one of his jerseys like belted as a dress hot cute you know boot action yeah with like a chunky boo big big like black thigh high heel something love love love so yeah that's going to be that's going to be a lot a lot of fun I think and um you know just more excuses for fashion we love we love a fashion moment and any way shape or form so we're excited um I know that we already recapped the VMAs but uh old me is excited for her outfit yeah I forgot to say before so hopefully I'm just as excited when I was just talking about it right before old May is very excited to see what she pulls out me too hey G hey Kelly long time listener second time caller in um we just had the weekend of our live we literally started with Taylor at the game then pictures of them after then Jed off to New York I'm I'm so full on the photos that I could Hunger for More you know what I could hunger for one of them actually posting each other oh my God I know please I just want one photo from their vault I love all of these photos don't get me wrong I'm loving every angle every single one beautiful delicious thank you so much y one of them I don't even care if it's from this weekend doubt 've already seen I would just love to see their perspective of taking a picture together of what they would post second I love that every almost every photo you can see of them Travis has lipstick all over his face yep yep that's the tell me your love language is physical Touch without telling me your love language is physical [Music] touch other they seem like peas in a pod couldn't be happier just wanted to express my happiness with with other people that love it as well absolutely have a great one bye bye thanks for the call I think uh them at the US Open was just like wow they really like are in very much the honeymoon phase like they so obsessed with each other it's so cute here is my question I actually saw a comment that was saying that that maybe we don't talk enough about how they're cute maybe I I you and I how we used to like gush about it and then someone was like oh and they're like maybe you're over it I was like oh no no we're not over it at all it's just we're so it's so normal now oh duh much more to say except for how cute it is I will say that I'm glad that this question came up and that we're talking about the US Open you just said The Honeyman phase thing because um some people you know haters were like they're all over each other it's US Open blah blah blah I did not even think that once like normally I'm not somebody who sees PDA and thinks it's like cute just by anybody but I they are so like effortlessly in love and cute and fun and sweet and Casual at all [ __ ] humping dry humping people kiss all the time with the so but I saw this I saw this like picture compilation on Twitter someone post a picture of like Kendall Jenner Bad Bunny kissing Kylie and Timmy kissing like some other couples kissing like why is it always Taylor and Travis that get the [ __ ] it's like every couple kisses at the US Open God forbid they share a few kisses a few hugs I know also you have to remember like the the broadcast of the US Open is not showing like the the stands like it's all like paparazzi photos of people in the arena allot we saw them weren it's just people watching at all like you know what are you just going to stand there and not not talk to each other or something yeah no I saw I saw that discourse too of people being like they're like all over each other it's like well yeah because they are they're obsessed with each other and they're in love and they're so cute like I don't think Travis took his hands like off her from behind her like the entire time and it just so so cute and I do agree with what um our friend here was saying about I would like to OB obviously if who wouldn't want to see like just a little Glimpse behind the scenes you know she did post yeah she she did post that one Tik Tok that one time true um with like when she was like when you're partying with your parents and like Travis is in the video yeah that was really really which was really cute I forgot about that for a minute um but yeah no we only got uh well we shocking we got the um when he came on stage she posted some pictures of yeah she had that in the grid but that's like a professional that's all she's posted so far see those vog she's Tak me too so bad like what is she making them for um so what I want to say about uh the PDA and people's response I was just looking for it and I can't find it but I know it was Vogue that posted a girl at Vogue like wrote an article and she was like maybe you just don't understand or maybe you think it's weird because like you've never felt that way sorry yeah honestly though and she's right like anyone who is cynical and myself included like I have been cynical in my life when I'm feeling low and lonely and whatever and I see people like loving and gushing in love and I roll my eyes and I'm like get a [ __ ] grip whatever but then me I've also been like so in love that I'm making out in the street so it's like you know you just have to when you're in it you're in it you can't help it like you know we we need to we need to encourage I know like why would you not want to see two people just love loving each other it's just sweet it's sweet it's very sweet so we love to see it um okay let's jump into DMs um what the hell did I read here okay here we go hi Kelly and G I don't know if you have looked into those who are making the viral hate posts about Taylor like her being a trumpy due to her association with the momes the majority of these accounts are gayers even the person who wrote The Variety article is one they are now using this to fuel how much they hate that she's not someone they can manipulate her moves and actions and most importantly she's not gay post how trashy Taylor and alcoholic Taylor is now that she's with Travis also that Viral post about Joe aln is supposed a political activist oh God and that he is the reason that Taylor and her friend group were vocal about their support to the Democratic party in the past insane to imagine Joe aln influencing Jack antinoff yeah I yeah like not not a [ __ ] chance British Joe aln by the way not involved in American but okay yeah I wish there was something to run them off the internet because these news outlets love to clip their post and make headlines out of it this is how useless Twitter drama discourse escalates to different platforms and you know what it's th% facts it's a th% facts Gia and I am so thankful to this person for writing in because I totally forgot that the author of that Variety article that we were [ __ ] on the other day right we were should yeah yeah yeah or did that happen after we Rec that happened after we recorded that's right so okay the Variety article he's talking about yes is what we were talking about earlier when we were saying like major news outlets like stock stand Twitter and are now posting about it and one of those Outlets one that sent me over the edge personally was variety yeah and a previously trusted Source uh an outlet I've respected for years and years something I I really enjoy reading for the most part put out an article being like um uh the headline was something like Taylor better like basically the fate of the world depends on Taylor and KLA and it's real loud that she's not like it was something so [ __ ] so dumb here wait let me go let me look at my tweets oh yeah um it says oh you got it okay if com if the title is if Taylor Swift doesn't endorse KLA Harris she'd be entering a new era and then one of the quotes it's given how much mileage Taylor Swift got in the past out of her decision to speak out on politics the idea that she will remain silent would seem to make her past speaking out at a more convenient moment appear cynical it'd be regrettable in her engagement with the world of politics were just another one of her eras and one from which she were willing to move on from boo tomato tomato like what a [ __ ] so that that pissed me off so much seeing it come from variety that um that I I forgot yeah I wrote that big ass blog being like you shouldn't be voting based on what celebrities say like this isn't like you you have to make your own choices everything we've talked about already like I basically what we were saying on Tuesday I put in a blog and and it was because of this post pissed me off so bad and turns out the author of that post is a gayer G are ruining this country for those who don't know like a gayer it's a it's a person who who thinks Taylor Swift is gay and thinks that like everything she's been hiding it she's been hiding it and it's all elaborate ruls and like you know she's faking and and like they like attack her being like she's unhappy and it's [ __ ] up and she's let you know it's just it's psychotic who jump through in order to justify it like in their own way like say she like goes out to dinner with Travis like oh my God like Travis is Travis didn't hold her hand for 05 seconds that's because he's a beard and that's because Carly CL was there 10 minutes before but you couldn't see because she was in the background of a in behind a brick and they met in the bathroom and they talked for 10 seconds and they kissed on the lips but you can't tell because it's a blurry photo from 10 ft away y that someone has their finger over the camera I swear to God I saw it it's it's no Gia that's exactly what the what the tweets are like it's exactly it's like w bad guy living in shame it must be so hard for TSA to live in shame it like it makes no [ __ ] sense so then what's happened is now that she is so like you know public PDA with Travis the way that she traditionally has always been with most of her boyfriends except for Joe um they're they're like Furious that that there's all this irrefutable proof you know quote unquote that she's not gay and they like cook up these lies and excuses and things to kind of throw back at her and this guy is a his what's his name like Daniel some actually I want to find his name because I because I don't I don't like him and we don't trust him author the author of that thing let me look at my see if I can I'll find it in my thing here here I'll click the article oh yeah unfortunately give him a [ __ ] click keep closing my laptop on my I've done that before the worst feeling Daniel darar Dario D Apostrophe a d d a r i o Daniel I don't think so I doubt it um to uh Alexandra hot hot um big booby dumb big booby uh dumb as [ __ ] I can't believe that variety wrote it and then there was another another person again I we we can't believe how these like who are these lunatics posting this [ __ ] but there's another person at variety who wrote like a different article that was like um wait we have so many like politics memes going back and forth right now he was kind of just like backtracking on that article being like right like they this one is of course taylorp is going to endorse KLA Harris and she can hug whoever she damn wants which at first it's like okay maybe I understand what you're saying Chris Wilman is the author of this but then Chris Wilman like kind of starts off seeming like on our page and kind of what's going on right now but then launches into the but she should speak out because blah blah blah blah and it's just kind of it rubs me the wrong way like I just think that that you know people are entitled to their opinions and everybody can say what they want to do but I think those two articles back to back just put a lot of unnecessary pressure on the situation and also spread this like misinformation around again that's the problem I have with it is spreading of misinformation I get the you know it's my opinion I want to share it but like why do these news outlets let these people write opinion pieces like you're the news like who cares about Chris's opinion like I don't give a [ __ ] it's not obvious it's an OP at the bom it says an opinion pie it looks looks like a don't get why there's no one being like hey like maybe we shouldn't let all these [ __ ] randos be posting opinion pieces like the New York go on your own block that's what I'm saying like the New York Times like the variety like I feel like I don't know does Washington I feel like these all a lot of these news outlets do these opinion pieces and it just it just [ __ ] them over it perpetuates the the [ __ ] because it's clearly they're always clearly opinionated and it's like that's not the point of the news the news is suppos tell you what the tea is news the the news is supposed to give you facts and and facts is something that's been lost you know a long time ago a long time far away and that's unfortunate and now so sorry veriety you're dead to me now um that Daniel jario you're dead to me as well and you and you're you know getting the ground um but yeah so I think that the the discourse around that the gayers like just don't get sucked up in that [ __ ] don't see like don't don't believe those things like it's just use your judgment as a person you know we're we're talking about politics whatever do your own research blah blah blah but also just like think critically like I I guess I'm just so worried that people aren't thinking critically anymore when you read something online Twitter specifically especially and it sounds [ __ ] insane to you you can think it's [ __ ] insane you don't have to then change your thing and be like oh people are saying on Twitter so it must be true not the case at all you literally anyone y' can make 18 Twitter accounts right now and to each other and make a fake thread and make everybody think that that something is fact you know what I mean it's just it's so nuts so just think we said this like last week like the media literacy is at an alltime low all time L all time low so open the schools for God's s open the schools open your eyes yeah Open Your Eyes Open Your Brains open your hearts and understand your arms and hug arms hug whoever you want hug a republican make them feel better yeah everyone go out to go hug a republican hug Republic for them I don't get you yeah but good luck we might be across the aisle but it's a small aisle but hey give me a hug I'm sure we find some common ground okay we all hate we all hate taxes man we all hate taxes um the uh I quickly want to say the Republican thing literally one day after Taylor was getting all that [ __ ] the choa rone Rolling Stone article came out and she's obviously from the Midwest and she says that like a lot of her family and friends at home are Republicans and that she still loves them just the same and it's like she can't get away with anything CH I I really love Cho I love her I love really seems like she honest she doesn't a f she really honest she doesn't give a [ __ ] which I appreciate she's like a little I'm like oh but yeah like she she can have family members and friends that are Republicans but Taylor can't it's always it's always a double Stander for Taylor no matter what it is whether it's politics social issues whether it's her tour whether it's her music it's always Taylor's fault everyone just tries to bring a [ __ ] down it's and somebody I read another tweet that said like because she's never done any anything actually problematic all people do all day long is trying to make up excuses do it they don't want to believe that she is a genuine kind normal thoughtful smart person like no one people don't want to accept that someone like that exists in this world because everyone wants to project their own faults onto celebrities and to everyone around them and so just take that in your brain put it in your pocket in your hat behind your ear feather in your cat that's that was the what I was looking for and um and just move forward and know that uh not everything is it seems all the time Everything Is Not What It Seems and you can get what you dreams run into trouble when go to extremes because Everything Is Not What It Seems oh I'm glad that we sang that because a quick quick shout out to Selena Gomez who I know that I I personally I've talked major [ __ ] about Selena multiple times I think that she is in a spot right now where where she's hanging out with well-respected actors and actresses she's coming into her own she's at like the Tiff film festival and she's a movie coming out Amelia Perez Amelia Perez um it already has like you know Oscar buzz Emmy Buzz whatever whatever uh I don't know if it's a series or a movie I forget but she um has been giving interviews on the carpet and stuff and she has like a new demeanor about her that's a little more serious and thoughtful and clearly she's like taking cues from these like established respect hardworking people like she's on social media less which is so good for her I think think that's great I mean that the most serious way ever because I feel like that was really bad for her it was the only like it was the only thing that she would act kind of crazy and it was like Selena you're Selena [ __ ] Gomez like don't you don't have to worry about this [ __ ] but huge shouts to her for uh you know I I watched one of her interviews about how she um went to go do the movie or the show I think it's a movie and um and it's in Spanish a lot of it's in Spanish and she has uh you know growing up in America even though coming from a a Latin family she didn't know Spanish as well as everyone else and so it was kind of a struggle for her to like you know get to know it and and it was something that she wanted to overcome and and everything and um I'm just proud of her proud of her for for you know going out of the limb and being really honest and about her about herself and her challenges and work hard she's doing good and I'm happy confident she did an interview and she said that uh she's not able to have kids on her own yeah that was part of there was a bunch of things yeah that got lost in the Sauer not allowed to carry carry children of her own and um which is you know it's very sad and she said it's something that she's had to grieve and also um she said that they were asking her about Taylor you know always everybody asks everybody about Taylor but she said specifically you know as always Taylor's like a big sister call her whenever I want you know friends whatever but when they talk they mostly catch up like besties and they ask about like you know Vander pump rules and and you know all kinds of [ __ ] so happy toar yeah happy for her happy toar she she's doing her thing and she feels confident and she's doing well and and we love to see that shouts to her shout out shout out shout out um all right I think that's what a what an episode what a day hopefully you guys feel fed by us in the same way that Taylor's been feeding you Taylor swept the boards with all the VMAs let's hope and hopefully I our our crowns will be placed on our heads and we don't get abdicated from the throne we do not want an abdication whatsoever we want to keep raining over the and that is Barcelo Sports so far we're the best betters in the building as by by far so uh perfect we will see you guys next week 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