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[Music] go [Music] Bo go Cowboys [Music] go Cowboys [Music] go Cowboys [Music] Gobo go Cowboys [Music] he [Music] go count [Music] boys go Cowboys [Music] the following is a production of dallascowboys.com and the Dallas Cowboys football club how abouto cowbo [Music] this is Cowboys camping out presented by solo stove and broadcasting live from training camp in Oxnard California hey there Cowboys Nation welcome in to camping out presented by solo stove the official fire pit of the Dallas Cowboys and go ahead and check them out at solostove.com we've got an awesome episode coming for you guys today we got the wonderful ambar Garcia Nick Harris myself Nicole hon and Patrick no Walker don't forget the no see we got Josh Rodriguez what y'all doing man how y'all doing training camp is here we need some energy y we oh the energy before we went live yeah that's what you want yeah I need that same energy absolutely I need it trying to get us F yeah Nick's behind camera like like no yeah guys uh lots to talk about um only the first three days of training camp so far um but when you talk about the reports that have been out about Dak PR Scot and CD lamb receiving offers recently for new contract extensions um what's yall's thoughts on that also with you Nick cares yeah so that's dominated the dialogue of training camp so far right like it has had nothing to do with what is going on on the field and everything to do about what's going on at the negotiation table I don't know I I for me this is this is an unintended pun but where there's smoke there's fire even though solo stove smokeless stove I got you man I got you but um I I think where there is there is fire when you're talking about these kinds of situations now we could go back to a year ago with Zach Martin's hold out and kind of how that developed we weren't really hearing about that this time last year you know it kind of felt like it was going to drag out and it was going to be something that lasted the entirety of camp but also it was with the understanding that there was only about a week of heads up before we got out to Camp that we knew that Zach was going to hold out I think there was an understanding that CD was going to hold out throughout the offseason if a deal wasn't done by Camp so for me I think a deal with CD gets done rather quick I think does I I've been telling um just some people around that I think it gets done by the end of next week but um we'll see I I think at the end of the day it's going to come down to length of the contract and guaranteed money I think those are going to be the two things that maybe have as as much hold up as possible and then you know Jerry Jones and Steph Jones said today to not rule out the fact that they could get Dak Prescott done before the season starts now Dak has kind of passed that off into the hands of his representation and has kind of allowed them to to make the make the offers and make the um make make the of the negotiating but it wouldn't surprise me if that gets done too but I I feel more confident CD if I were to bet on it though I think Dak plays this year out all right well for me I I think that you know and I've said this on on talking and just in in other areas I think it's a package deal I think you have to look at it as a package deal between CD lamb and Dak Prescott um obviously CD lamb can be a wide receiver one anywhere in the league but you saw what he uh was unable to do when Dak was not on the field production dipped a little bit versus when Dak Prescott is on the field he's a first teamr pro he's a record Setter he's one of the best uh to ever wear the number 88 for the Cowboys so I think while you're working to get CD done that's why they're actively simultaneously working to get Dak Prescott done I think one comes with the other which is why I'm not surprised that you know they let it let it be known today that Dak Prescott received a recent offer as well now of course it's no coincidence that times up with Jordan loves deal getting done Tua his deal getting done as well I think enough leaves have fallen for Jerry and Steven Jones to now they're saying okay well these are the this is the market here's where the bar is and here's how we can negotiate these numbers so I'm with Nick Harris I I think the CD lamb deal gets done fairly quickly and prior to Camp I said I believe that it would get done and CD lamb will be in before the end of the second week we're tracking for that um and it's possible now that Dak Prescott gets his deal done maybe next week as well so we might have two Blockbuster deals landed for the Cowboys in the second week of training camp might be fun next week I'm thinking if it does linger it's CD is going to be ready either way he can plug and play it's it's not necessarily as dire as a situation as Zack Martin was coming into that uh training camp last year where it was very I feel like there was some desperation going on with the offensive line making sure that it was set for week one CD's plug-and play in the meantime we've even brought this up on talking Cowboys shouts to talking Cowboys that this gives an opportunity to a lot of the wide receivers that are behind CD lamb coming up to take that spot take those reps and uh we said it on talking Cowboys tpy tpy speed speed don't start that man this name no this is this is a solid no we're not doing verify is not solid this is verified Source I'll you I'll give it to you Josh I'll give it to you you agree with that I'm just going to give it to him no I didn't say anything I just saying I'm giving it to him tpin please change your handle at turpy turpy speed speed he will not that's just a I mean I'm I'm starting it now absolutely not we're going with tpy t speed speed what about you am no no ask him tomorrow ask him if I told him that I said yeah go go straight to I'll go up to him okay he no we're cool like I saw him at Target I saw him at Target and I was like uh Mr Speed speed yeah Mr Speed I actually didn't say word I no I went up to him and I was like hey kavante I have this nickname I think it's a really good idea and he's like get away from me and I was like okay yeah um that's kind of how it went not really but well um no I I have to that I mean I'm tired of contract talks but that never ends you know it is it it sucks that every year feels like every year we get out here there's some type of contract talk in the recent years that we're doing so hopefully they can figure it out get something done rather quickly and especially because I do think it's highly like it's very very important the time that he's missing like he needs to be out here it's great for the younger receivers behind him to be getting all those reps and they've been doing really really good and taking advantage of that but at the same time you do need to keep that chemistry going I've said it on previous shows where it I don't want it to take multiple games for them to get going together it's one thing you're practicing in your backyard at home with your buddy versus being in a game where you have now Defenders and other teams trying to attack you and all of that and you're trying to run those routes but you weren't able to spend money during the off season on other things you're having to save all this money for the things the contracts are up very very soon so hopefully we can get this uh talk done and freaking start talking about football I hate to break it to you but I think once these two contracts get done then we're talking about Michael Parson we're talking about Don Bland Lawrence Z I mean it's never gonna end it's not it's never oosa oiga it's not the list goes on it makes you wonder what those guys mindsets are you know like the the osas who's going into a contract year Demarcus Lawrence Zack Mar's a little bit different just because he's he's kind of teetered with the idea of reement after this season but even he's still included in that argument there are 30 players on this roster right now going into the final year of their contract so I I think the interesting thing would be you know unlike players like cidd lamb and the Dak Prescott and the Michael Parsons with the world as we have this conversation obviously it could change over the ne you know over the course of the next 17 plus games assuming the playoffs a guy like Osa oiga who will be one of the sought after uh guys if he were to hit free agency but at the same time as we have this conversation he's not a market set Setter just yet and that could work into the cowboy favor so if they can get CD lamb and Dak Prescott done which I think we agree they they will then Michael Parson's becomes at that time the only potential Market Setter and everybody else becomes a bit of a more of a you know welcome conversation where it's just like yeah because the Cowboys don't like setting the market that's the hold up on a lot of their contracts but that's why they were able to get a guy like Trevon Diggs done early last year because last summer because he didn't set the market so that's kind of the conversation but why is that why is it that the Cowboys do not like setting the market realistically um do we who's got Jerry's number anybody got Jerry on speed down hold on give me a second but there's so much added benefits to to doing that too I mean like get it done get it done I mean I got five on it you know what I mean like all5 can we throw in a Solo what's your five five million 500 five bucks I think he meant $5 see okay I think he Josh is stretching you know my financials Josh is stretching the dollar I'm being honest Josh is stretching the dollar I mean you you say that about once they get these two you have Michael Parsons there's probably no other Market resetter but you would have to think of Jake Ferguson has a year like he did last year ascending even further he's probably in that conversation donon bland is probably going to be a guy early as early as 25 though on Jake Ferguson I think Jake Ferguson is is a market Setter conversation for 26 maybe he would be going he's got two years left on his deal he does have two next summer that's Jake Ferguson Don Bland Tyler smth and for the record I do believe Ferguson's going into an all pro season I think he comes up think yeah I think he becomes a top three tight end right there with George KD and Travis Kelce so that's actually a great Point um but it also goes to not just you know the fact that the Cowboys don't like setting the market which I agree and I'm on record of saying this I would be less concerned with setting a market that's going to be reset shortly thereafter anyway because at most positions especially the quarterback position if you if you set the market that's going to be couch change in like five six months from now if that and the same goes for cornerbacks because who who's coming du I think Caine's coming due sauce is going to come doe here so worry for me I would worry less about setting the market and more so making sure that if I have a franchise talent and especially if it's a generational Talent like aaka cidi a Micah you get those deals done and then you figure the rest of the roster out however you need to I can agree with that because well and I makes sense because Stephen Jones actually mentioned in his press conference that that was something along the lines of what Zack Martin did his deal was already sealed and done then he kind of felt like he was underpaid right the market doesn't stop it keeps going exactly so I think that that just kind of makes it difficult though but you for guys like CD and Dak I mean those are certain guys that you just have to get done immediately that's just my thoughts but I'll also add this and and this is a part of the conversation this is a talking point that not a lot of people understand when you're negotiating with the Cowboys front office you have to understand that they View salary cap management as a big talking point in that they would they would love to go longer on their contracts than shorter so one of the talking points that kind of held up dak's initial contract talks um prior to his last extension was that they wanted to go 45 Dak and top France they want to come 43 so I say that to say the Cowboys if they can get a four-year deal or a fiveyear deal that allows for more cap flexibility not so much if it's a three-year deal but from a player standpoint especially if you're at the top of your game and you're at the top of one of the position one of the top positions in the game you want to get back to the free agency market as quickly as possible so you know when this Dak deal it does land and I say win because I believe it will I wouldn't be surprised if it was a threeyear because that's always on the table when you're talking about Dak Prescott's representation Todd France that's kind of what he would like to do four years obviously is is a possibility but three wouldn't shock me I'm under the impression that's the hold up with the CD lamb deal as well it's the length it's CD probably wanting three and the team wanting four or five because that's a lot of money you can push out and that's more spending money that they can have here in 2024 and 2025 Beyond and the Caps pandemic's not withstanding the Cap's not moving backward well what's interesting to me more so of okay we were talking about all these contracts for these guys what's crazy to me is how much um how these veterans are still young like in my mind we're like the the young players have now become veterans but then you got the younger younger players and you have well the Cowboys have beted so much they're betting on all these young talent for all these younger players to hopefully show up this season to not have such a great learning curve for this year because again we the problem has been when you pay Dak and if you pay that let's say that happens even with the CD deal and Micah behind him what kind of money are you going to have left over to build the team around Dak is he going to give a A Team friendly Team friendly contract and all that so it's just it's going to be really interesting to see all the training camp battles happening here and how quickly this younger player and it's so much pressure I feel like there's so much pressure around everybody again Mike Zimmer he he's coming in to figure out the defense he's under one year he has one year everybody on one year that's the last everybody everybody I'm going to renegotiate next year I'm hold out of Camp I'll tell D now yeah renegotiate eatman's right there so we'll need to renegotiate this for next year honestly it's wild it's wild but it's interesting it's fasinating you mention that because that's certainly part of the negotiation is like hey if we give you this number you're going to have to work with a lot less which means your value is going to have to be a lot higher than what you've given and Dak Prescott he said a couple of times like hey I don't play for money but he said uh what was this on Friday on Thursday that he has a responsibility to uphold a for the other quarterbacks in the league to be able to you know keep that value rising and keep that number rising and then also his family you know so at the end of the day like those two that that tells me that he is going to set the market and he's probably not going to take a whole lot of a whole lot of breathing room like it could be like a LeBron Team friendly deal where he gives up a million and a half and then his son just happens to get a million and a half more in his contract you know so it could be a situation like that I I do think that he he'd either set the market or he'd come damn close to doing so there's something that Dak Prescott said on Friday that really stuck out to me um because like you said Harris obviously now he's kind of realizing the the weight of the comment I don't play for money okay he sat back he slept on that his agent called him and said don't ever say that again um but what he said on Friday when it came to is he trying to set the market it was I I've already gotten money and I'm not going to look someone another player in the face and ask them to take you know less so that I could get more that tells me that Dak Prescott is willing to be flexible on maybe if he doesn't set the market or maybe he sets the market by like you know $1 million or something like that a small amount as opposed to trying to blow the roof off of the market so I think that kind of mindset and keeping mind that the Cowboys they they and Dak Prescott agreed to reworking his deal earlier this offseason to free up you know a few million dollars to try to help with a salary cap that they wow wow speaking of LeBron yeah look at how rugged the solo stove is by the way my bad he threw it in there took that like he's playing Olympics handball Olympic season I was like but yeah Dak Prescott he's willing to be flexible and and I think that's another reason that both sides have always believed this deal will get done now obviously they both are kind of plain chess in the media where you have they both said Dak Prescott says I want to be here but I was looking at other quarterbacks in the league when I was younger and they went to play for other teams okay I get it Jerry Jones is saying oh I'm the biggest fan of Dak Prescott the best leader ever we want him in I don't see a situation where he's not here but there are times in my life when I've you know not gotten what I wanted and it turned out to work out for me because cuz had I gotten what I wanted da da da so it's like okay at the end of the day I think the deal gets done because both want it done and they're just playing the game can we go down that path just for just for Giggles like if if they do not have the money or the financials to bring back Dak Prescott this time next offseason then what do you look at yeah you're looking at the draft so you're you're relying on a rookie quarterback at that sense with the weapons that you have on this team granted the offensive line is still kind of building that on that same sense but it's not like there's going to be some big free agent you know at the quarterback position that you'll be able to go out there and grab and even if you do you're spending a lot of money to get that so it's I don't know it it you would have to bank on maybe what you have here maybe if Tre Lance has a good preseason if Cooper Rush maybe takes another step in some sense but I I I really think at the end of the day Dak Prescott has all of the leverage in the world he'll be able to get the deal he wants at the end of the day Cooper Rush is and I I have a lot of love for Cooper rush but Cooper Rush is what Cooper Rush is which is he can come in and get you you know four wins out of five games back one of the best backups in the league bottom line but Koopa Rush is not going to be you know that that risk taker that Dak Prescott is and that means that he's not going to lead you to the number one offense in the league because he's not going to take the shots that Dak Prescott is willing to take and that's not a KN to Cooper Rush that's just his that's the archetype that he's in versus what Dak Prescott is Dak Prescott is he's more of a cerebral Gunslinger he's not full Brett far but when the time comes if he needs to pull that trigger he'll pull that trigger and it's either going to be a big play or it might be an interception but you know it's been less interception and more big play last year which is why he was runner up to MVP let me ask a question and I know you guys I know what your answer is going to be but are is anybody surprised we are currently sitting where we're at without signing Dak without signing CD without signing Mike are are we surprised that we are here now right before or right during training camp are we surprised that we haven't signed either of them I'm going to say no um they've been writing about this for exactly a year on cowboys.com if you're not keeping up with their articles but yeah it's it's no surprising it's not surprising because of the size of each deal let alone all of these deals converging at one point it's just it's a lot of money that has to be negotiated and not just that it's the structure of each deal that has to be negotiated so these types of deals take time take time it's not a one-year reup at a veteran minimum that's arguably that's an easy deal to negotiate it's here's the money your value says this take her to leave it we can find another guy to come in for one year the veteran minimum but when you're talking about generational talent and you're talking about a deal that could be upwards of $200 million on one hand and uh Michael Parson eventually being the highest paid player in the history of the league those deals take months sometimes years to get done well hopefully over the next couple of days we're talking about deals that have already gotten done signed delivered by CD lamb and Dak Prescott but Amar kind of mentioned this uh a little bit earlier when she said that it's up to now the younger guys right um when you talk about some of the younger guys like a maybe a Jaylen Brooks in terms of wide receiver room and Jaylen Tolbert do y'all see a world where Jaylen Brooks wins that wide receiver three roll over Jaylen Tolbert yeah this is shaving up to be incredibly fascinating right with with these J and also Tyron Billy Johnson has had a really good strong start to Camp uh he's a guy that I wouldn't say necessarily came out of nowhere because if you were watching last preseason he was making some plays in those preseason games especially against the uh the Raiders game is the one that jumps out to me but yeah this this receiver crew that they have here in Oxnard it's it's been able to do the job and then some and they just added two receiver bodies uh to that room today and Kelvin Haron formerly of the DC Defenders of the UFL and then Deontay Bernett formerly of the Arlington Renegades of the UFL so two more guys just kind of add within that mix I mean there's a uh there's a lot of talent in that receiving room it's just not a whole lot of proven talent but I I think they should be comfortable with what they have but let me say this and I'm not trying to be pessimistic because I'm a very optimistic person for those who know me for those who know me I'm a very optimistic person no I look at the bright side I look at yeah you know no comment a little a little attitude yeah we all know Amber is a is a bright bit of sunshine in our day every day yeah I'm not Nicole but you know I bring some optimistic I mean I try to bring the little brightness to Everybody's Day d my point my point is and and I don't want this to be taken the wrong way because I actually love everything that I'm seeing from those younger players at wide receiver but I've been here like 10 times now like a 10 years and every time like it always happens when players tend to stand out at camp and it doesn't always necessarily translates into the season so again I'm just trying to take it slow slow down before getting way too excited I love absolutely love everything they're showing at this very moment but we got to remember that we got to wait for those preseason games see how they actually look and wait to see at the start of the Season how it actually plays out because I've seen it personally way too often where you do see players like that specifically wide receivers stand out at training camp and then it just kind of slowly starts fading away yeah 100% I say why they giggle over here cuz I a couple of names immediately came to mind and I was just kind of giggling a little bit but uh I mean H the pads even haven't even come on yet so yeah I'm with you with you and I I believe that definitely applies to a guy like Jaylen Cropper David dton as he comes back from injury and and some of the young guys tyan Billy Johnson but when you talk about like Jaylen Brooks for example Jaylen Brooks was one of the standouts from last year's camp but when given the opportunity I should say and when given the opportunities during the regular season orbe it limited capacity he took advantage of those every snap he took yeah every single snap you didn't see a drop you saw an instant and very few of those come along yes you saw instant chemistry between him and Dak Prescott you saw trust from Dak to make the throws that he was making to Jaylen Brooks that maybe he probably you know most quarterbacks would think and say hey this is a rookie seventh round pick I don't know you like that so he was making those throws and then Jaylen Brooks was rewarding him so what you're saying is 100% accurate when it comes to the others um but when it comes to like Jaylen Brooks kavante Turpin who got more involved J to J jayen Tober 100% when we're talking about what I call the law firm of jayen jayen and jayen you be like Dion D D D um but when it comes to those three guys two of those guys aren't necessarily proven but they've proven in season games that they can definitely take the step and be the wide receiver three the rest like Amar said we need to see how it shakes out in preseason games and then hopefully if they can make the active roster then that's really when they're going to be tested but even those guys they're going to have to do a lot of work on special teams to to help earn their way onto the actor roster well well yeah because the wide receiver 3 is already taken up by Guess Who tury speed tury tury speed speed guy so who are your five receivers on the roster here we go yeah let's go for me yeah okay let's see uh I oh my God can can I carry six wait can we pause real quick can we get a s'more or something that's why I'm here going complet hon I was told there would be s'mores I was you right they're right here ladies and gentlemen this perfect use for the solo presented by solo St dallascowboys.com the official fire pit of the Dallas C so while I'm prep while whilst I'm preparing my s'more my question of the Harris is can I can I carry a plus one uh yes because Turpin is your plus TP plus one okay so if turpin's my plus one I'm going uh see sorry who turbo turp that's better turbo tur definitely not at all ladies and gentlemen you be the judge turbo turp or tur or turpy tury speed speed does he get to have a say on this or t money t money we got three options now T money I'm going uh CD lamb Brandon Cooks Jaylen Tolbert Jaylen Brooks kavante Turpin and wait say that one more time okay from the side from the top you see the small' got your hypnotized that's what happened to me last year and it didn't end well did not so CID lamb lamb Brandon Cooks jayen tobert um Jaylen Brooks kavante Turpin and my sixth I I got to I got to keep the rookie on I got to give Ryan fenoy a chance I got to give him a chance he's a draft you you you know don't want to immediately risk him the waivers or anything like that and he's a freak athlete so that that's my six who who you got who do you got yeah I I would probably have the same crew it's with the caveat that floi which we have found out here at training camp that it is pronounced floi yeah shout out to kyman he got that ball rolling um but um I I I think if you're not taking fenoy if if injury kind of catches up to him and he probably needs a year on the practice squad and you think you can retain him um then I I think Tyron Billy Johnson might be that sixth guy I mean you look at the length that he has the speed that he has he's a guy that can play on the outside he has the experience you look at all the receivers on the roster he is third in career total yardage so like he has he has the Reps he has the experience um I think that would probably be the guy that is competing as much as possible with flenoy and bar who you got we everybody's got to put their five or six on the table I don't do that this early no you think it's impos I mean I just want to see more J I want to see more Jaylen Brooks well no you're just throwing out names yeah I guess we're sick we're not just throwing out names we gave justification pretty much this is that ball of sunshine she was yeah yeah I'm so optimistic hey it's called age and wisdom I've I know what I've learned through the years she said 10 years in oxnar she said get that right look at the receipts I think it's just I think it's it's all experience I think it's just it's called I've been hit in the face too many times oh boy she's learned her lesson she said some I think it's just on age oh I I didn't say anything I didn't you have to bite that yeah oh she went Spanish I'm done whenever she accidentally switches over the SOS you just have to leave that be you're stup you know SOS Amber is actually a lot nicer you know what I mean I believe that yeah she's like she's like she she actually is a ray of sunshine on some she's around Carlos she got theak K is sunshine in Espanol R de there de she even said that softly out of here her Dark Side comes out when the English comes out okay I don't be seeing this uh this Rough Side of ambar I don't get that stop stop being the the the neutral host get off the fence Kyle we you and I both know oh that's crazy Kyle you know Kyle's watching I know he what's up Kyle how you doing she is she is as rugged as a solo present dallas.com look at this more it's perfect see Patrick what can you pass the uh little why you call me out why'd you call me out sticky stick turbo I think you need out another yeah it might be break time here pretty soon right here no go ahead go ahead that's on you that's on you I don't need marshmallow so that's on y'all y'all what's impressed y' about John Stevens so far through the first three days honestly number one and this goes back to um just seeing him for the first time in mini camp and OTAs and Nick Harris and I had a conversation with him today it's the the added weight that he put on but it's the type of weight that he put on so he he specified today that he put on 12 pounds but uh I love the fact that he had a plan coming into this offseason said he spoke with the nutritionist and the training staff and Brit Brown and his goal was to add weight but it wanted he wanted it to be lean muscle which would allow him to uh improve on his blocking skills because he's he's a former receiver turn tight end so catching the ball and and making plays downfield is not going to be an issue for him but he needed to improve his Mass so he can be a better blocker to help the Cowboys Run game when he's placed in line as a blocker but he didn't want to just bulk up because then he might lose speed and quickness as far as being able to you know go downfield so I love that part of it and the mentality um the mental part of the game as far as coming back from the tour ACL he looks to be in good spirits he's moving well doesn't look like he's favoring thaty as far as overthinking and not trusting it so I think he's going to get back to impressing everybody in his second training C I just want everyone to acknowledge that Nicole is being a consumate professional I want everybody to acknowledge that I did very well completing my professional Point whilst all of this was going on to my left look at it was because I was really strugg look at the tears sorry y'all my bad she couldn't get a marshmallow on a stick guys I was struggling I was really struggling but no go ahead Nick yeah I think it's going to be really interesting to see how he has developed over the year mentally because I think that's going to be the biggest biggest thing for him and being able to make that transition to tight end as an inline blocker and that that was kind of a lot of our conversation with him Patrick I think him trying to take uh oh my goodness oh you're about to okay hurry up all right hurry up okay Fire Marshal Bill yeah no kidding worried let tell something we're about to go on a permanent Break um watch but I I think um I think if he can kind of marry this new added weight this new added frame that he has with his skill set and he can find some knacks at the point of attack in the Run game he's going to find a spot on this roster I I I think with this tight end room it's crazy because this time of year ago we were we were worried about who was going to be the starter and much much less who was going to fill out the roster now you have all of these other young guys who are really they've shown that they can they've shown that they can be either a receiving threat or a guy that can get after to the point of attack they need a little bit more from from the guys who are trying to block in the Run game but I I think if they can kind of figure that out here in the preseason they're going to find a pretty good group of tight ends you got to TI your cap to uh coach lunda Wells and that room and that room 100% because they've all they've all treated it really well and it also kind of makes you wonder about what do you do with Payton Hendershot you know because this is a guy who you obviously expected to come in this year and so far I haven't seen much in training camp so far it's still a little early but it's been up it's been up in the air and when you talk about you know um in pass Pro and things like that I there were a couple of plays in practice yesterday where you just see him really struggling and obviously that's very important to this tight end room and the way that they run their offense um but I'm I'm gonna be really excited to see like that battle with John Stevens pton henders shot brev span for all those guys I mean that tight end room is deep guys really deep Luke scon maker I mean he he's a guy that even though last year he struggled with a couple of injuries he's a guy that he puts in the work and actually somebody asked me today out in the crowd uh one of the fans he's like oh is there anybody out here that gives you that sha Lee Vibe the the type of dedication and immediately the guy that I think about is Luke sco maker because he does put in that extra work you see him putting in even last year so I think he hopefully has that jump this year where he gets the ability and the opportunity to just have more chances on being on the field and just um what do you say this contributing more contributing more uh on offense so I think that's another guy to keep an eye on this year he needs confidence yeah the thing is with Schoonmaker is he just needs to remain healthy right because he had the planter fastis issue that held him out of of training camp last year and then as a rookie without a training camp of course that's going to set you up for a slow start and kind of a tough season um but then this off season he has the uh the hamstring issue right um and but thankfully he's on the field he was placed on the pup list I've already seen him making some plays but with scho maker once he you know as long as he continues to remain healthy for him then it's about establishing himself as a pass catcher versus simply an elite blocker which is at Michigan he was an elite blocker oh oh you did you melt did you melt the chocolate M okay you shook Shook Ones how is he going to melt it what do you mean just hold it over and burn my hand no we'll talk about it so um Schoonmaker my thing is Direction on solo there you go remain healthy for Luke scon maker and show that you can be a pass catcher as as you know as far as two Personnel two tight end sets opposite Jake Ferguson if you can do that it's going to go a long way especially for the Cowboys offense because that means if Jake Ferguson and Luke Schoonmaker are potential pass catchers it's not so much of a tail when Schoonmaker is on the field even if it's just a single tight instead if School makers on the field right now it's probably a run play and defensive coordinators will key in on that but if you can 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our listeners let me remind you down just you're now talk stay ground I know is the solo stove might be free of smoke but Amar Garcia is bringing all the smoke got to keep people on the ground and humble stay humble okay she didn't kri you did she did she did oh man not like us I'm appalled at this Behavior this is not like y let's cook actually it's okay never mind this is like y was cool all right guys um Mazy Smith we talked about the opposite side of the ball now we got who was he fighting with huh did anybody see this nobody saw this who he was beefing with it was very under the radar I not today it was yesterday so yesterday you know they do the whole thing and then they take off the helmet the helmets and then they go back in and do a few more things right at the end helmets off and everything I didn't know who it was with offive player all I saw was defense so but it had to be somebody on offense because that's the one thing that makes sense so he was like extremely upset and like he and he was about to throw some hands but then I saw everybody like from defense come in and like huddle and calm him down and then Sam Williams came in and he's like hey hey hey let's hug it out let's hug it out William with a big smile on his face like let's all hug it out come on come on Sam yes but nobody I keep asking people nobody seems to have seen this happen but you know what I I like I like to hear that I like to hear that Mazy has that fire coming into year two because there is a lot of pressure on this young man to deliver in year two he doesn't have the luxury of learning behind and rotating with Jonathan henkins anymore uh he has a lot of expectations from Mike Zimmer coming in in year one so it's it's second year and it's his second defensive coordinator he he lost weight a lot of weight last year he had to put the weight back on and now he's going to have to get back to playing Michigan style football eating up double teams being that definitive nose tackle his weight looks phenomenal I think that he is in fact like Mike McCarthy said I think he's very close to whatever that goal weight was if I had to speculate I'd say it's 320 I think he's he's right there he definitely looks over 300 but more than that there were questions about you know not inside the building but from a lot of the fans when he lost the weight did he lose some of his power that power that we saw uh day one day two it's there in Spades but today what I saw and you were standing right next to me when I was taking that footage make sure you at voice of the star Shameless plug I got the video there in slow motion his get off Ono I got to I got to right hit a like and follow and retweet I got that oh you that's see that's very 's do he's doing the that's very IG of you and you should go follow in Hutcherson TV on Twitter too by the way since we doing promos you want you want to Nick Harris I just want to hear your point that's all Josh W Rodriguez um but his his the his get off on the snap was the quickest I've seen thus far and I'm I'm talking about the totality of his film from last year I've not seen Mazy get off the ball this quick clearly he's been working uh with Z Zina and he's been working with Greg Ellis he's been working with Mike Zimmer so not only is the weight there and the power is still there his record setting power from Michigan but his get off is right there there was a a four down man fourman down set it was Sam Williams um on the on the right Edge right also dii zua uh Mazi was the one Tech and then to his left was rookie second round pick marshan nean and Mazy was quicker than everybody except Sam Williams but I think that he was even a hair quicker than Sam Williams and Sam Williams to me has the quickest first step outside of Michael Parsons on this defense as far as the edge so if Mazy can put it all together and consistently build on what I saw today what I saw yesterday then he'll be more than all right the Cowboys will be more than fine as far as dt1 or I should say nt1 the question then becomes what is that rotation look like behind him yeah and I think for me it's it's I did this last year too I don't even look at those guys in the trenches until the pads come on but I think that's an interesting thing that you could at least look at is the get off because that is something that I think could translate whenever the pads get on and and that was the biggest one of the bigger criticisms that he had last year was that he was slow getting off the ball um he couldn't get after the the pocket and I I I think if he can kind of show that he's going to do those two things then maybe this defensive tackle question can be you know absolved a little bit easier because for me that's easily the biggest concern going into training camp is this defensive tackle situation like not only an unproven One tech that you're going to have to start whether it be Mazy Smith uh seventh round pick Justin Rogers or undrafted free agent Denzel daxon but you look at the three- Tech position with Osa digua we almost saw it cuz he was battling a hamstring injury during during mini camp but if he goes down who's behind him we talking about are we talking about maybe Mar neami foko like who slides into that role and I think you would be asking somebody to play out of position to take over for OSAA so I mean that interior defensive line it is a major concern for me right now overall um but I I would like to see what Mazy Smith has to do whenever the pads come on in this preseason I think it's going to be really really big for him like I'm sorry go ahead go ahead my I'm genuinely surprised there hasn't been any added veterans at uh the one technique and getting getting somebody in there veteran that could take place of Mazy if need be but at this point I think it goes to show the progress that mazy's made since the end of the season they know something that we don't obviously with without getting a vested veteran in here in the door right now well but there's still time I think they have an ace up their sleeve I I do believe they have an ace up their sleeve so potent as long as the ace that I'm thinking of remains a free agent until they need to pull it out of their sleeve um and and I've said the name on the podcast but I'm not going to say it here because now I can J I didn't want other teams to yeah they're listening I'm trying to help the crew will mlay stepen I was trying to help you guys out by not saying other podcast but not this because I I can wise up right I thought about it and I was like you don't think other Scouts and teams know what free agents are available I don't know what they're doing in their houses I'm trying to keep our house in order right um okay L Eagles right that down I'm yeah okay well how how he's going to do it how he does but we agree I think that's the I think that's the as of the the cowboy sleeve as long as a guy like lval Joseph who obviously has the pre-existing relationship with Mike Zimmer much like Eric Kendricks had I think that's that's great uh if it were to come to fruition my question for you Josh would be simply this yes I believe the Cowboys they always know more than we know about the players in the development and it's showing with Mazi for example like right now those questions are slowly starting to be answered and hopefully they will answer by the time you know Camp breaks August 22nd okay that being said even assuming Mazy pans out you still have a depth issue as far as who is it Carl Davis is it Denzel daxson is it you know rookie 7th round pick Justin Rogers you where does Chanty goon fall into that going into his contract gear who he needs to have a big gear as well so that's my question so even if Mazy Smith and I and I believe that he definitely looking at what I'm looking at I believe that he can be that answer T1 but behind him what you who the question is who I think the way they're playing Joseph as Lyal J Joseph aside I think they're planning on him to be that guy and if you're a team with a cap issue at the moment you may not be able to to get a lindol Joseph at this point air quotes on that cap issue don't don't get me started possibly in the realm of a cap issue maybe possibly uh that's what I think I think after Camp they'll know exactly where mazy's at once he's in pads once he's on the field again going up against a new look offensive line I think then you'll kind of tell where they want Mazi if he's going to be where they want him to be and then what type of depth they're going to bring is it going to be someone that starts ahead of Mazy or just depth well get this deal done with lamb and and Dak and you'll have plenty more cap space that part that's that would be Year too like you cannot I'm you cannot what use your first round pick and not use him on your two like you know that again that is very highly valuable especially when you don't have money to be spending on free agency when you're not making big splashes during free agency now you're heading into year two and he has like it it's not a choice he has he M said it too exactly so now hopefully by them bringing in Mike Zimmer to put some magic on the defense hopefully that will Coach him the right way Zimmer glitter idea and not only that you cannot be coming up with we're not going with Z the Zim effect we go with that that's nice why that one's nice so aggressive I disagree so aggressive not only Mike I didn't know you were so passionate about Glitter I apologize hope you and glitter have a happy4 man can't judge Look Who's Talking cupcakes at the start with glitter Patrick will be eating them and have glitter all over his face no shame like wash your face before you go home and your wife sees you the glitter the glitter is not from the cupcakes that's Aura so let's just get that right oh my goodness he's not only he's a Twilight vampire that's what it is no don't sick Mike Zimmer yeah yeah it's not only Mike Zimmer I think coming in to potentially help Mazy Smith but the addition of defensive line coach Jeff skino was very intentional if you will a 17year NFL veteran at the defensive tackle position played from 1993 to 2009 so he saw a lot of eras of football a lot of different eras of physicality he has he has a knowledge in his brain as a defensive line coach that will be able to help Mazy Smith and you've seen those two guys really connect here in Oxnard so far you talk about whatever disagreement Mazy Smith may have had with somebody yesterday scano was the first one in there to kind of help bridge everything and get Mazy cooled down and bringing him off the field so that's big time and especially if it's if it's a relationship that he can be hard on them but there's still love at the end of the day I think that's really what Mazy Smith needs that uh uh needs this season um but we're going to see that relationship really Foster as the year goes on but it's very intentional why Jeff scina is in this building right now and it's also evident with scina and Mike Zimmer and what they've brought to not only Mazy but how they're kind of revamping Micah Parson's you know um approach to this 2024 season and he kind of mentioned in the his press conference yesterday that you know he had like a little reality check had some tough conversations with some of his teammates some of the coaches and how he's you know doing more as a leader how much are you guys just looking forward to seeing that more so on the field visibly uh I I goes without saying I'm absolutely looking forward to see it um one thing I love that michah said I love what I loved a lot of what michah said um when he got to the podium uh late this week but one thing stuck out to me most and it relates to Mazy Smith okay so you he's asked the question about Mazy how's Mazy coming along and and what does Michael Parson say Michael Parson says it's not about what I you know expect or hope Mazy to do Mazy has to go out and he has to be dominant and he has to play well because that's what this team needs but also that's what Mazy Smith needs and then he immediately segue to and I've been working with him and I've been helping to you know make sure that his confidence stays high and reassuring him that is what a team player looks like that is what a leader of the defense looks like and as long as that continues Michael Parson's in this defense will continue on the right trajectory especially under somebody like Mike Zimmer uh and then keep in mind you we talk about Zina we talk about Greg Ellis but there are other leaders in this coaching staff that are equally as proven and equally as valuable and a guy like Al Harris for example right so these are they they're surrounded by leaders from a coaching perspective and if Micah can now in his mat because keep in mind he's still a young man okay for all of the the greatness that he has already achieved as an individual with these records there's still a maturity that had to happen but it comes with age and wisdom and it feels like Micah is getting more getting wiser as he gets a little bit older and starts to understand his impact on those around him and for those listening if you guys haven't watched the interview go go to dallas.com and watch the interview because it gives you a different look a different feel of like him coming in and presenting himself in front of the media and speaking very differently than what we're used to reading on Twitter or on another podcast so I'm just saying that that's a good yeah yeah but that one is not sponsored by solo so does it even matter but the point is it's great it's great to see him starting training time Patrick Focus she said Focus I'm with you I'm with you a how you say f focus in Spanish in that's a little too close you call me I see that's a little too close to okay okay no that sound like nothing I'm listening to you a I'm with you stop it stop it my point here is that it's great to see him speaking that way because we're we know everything that's been talked about and we know some of the things between teammates and all of that so for him to stand up there I think everyone deserves a little bit of Grace and the opportunity to change and and improve so I love the way that he started off training camp and so far so good and that leads me to think okay maybe Mike Zimmer you know he's he's known as as the guy that that that's going to get people in line you know so the point is I like it yeah he said uh he said earlier today that Mike Zimmer and him have had breakfast every morning since they've been in aux art so you know it's it's a much different conversation than the one we had with him at the end of mini camp where he said that they've maybe exchanged 20 words together so yeah that relationship is going to be really big to Foster here and here in Oxnard so uh I'm very curious to see where that relationship stands whenever we get back to Frisco something about that Zimmer glimmer you know I thought you said glitter which one is he's changing up change it up I can rock with that one I can rock with that one way to hold him accountable way to hold him accountable hey man I'm changing it up don't worry about it I'm with you I'm with you I'm with you uh I mean guys so far when you talk about Micah um in the way that Mike Zimmer will probably be using him more of like a either an edge obviously Edge rusher but off ball maybe on the defensive line um does that kind of create open opportunities for maybe like a Marshon nean to fight and battle more for that opportunity with the defensive end against Sam Williams and realistically do y'all think that maybe Marsha nean could beat out Sam William for more snaps yeah you take you take Michael Parsons out of this equation and you look at the fact that they lost dorrence Armstrong who was a guy that matches Marsha nean skill set in a lot of ways and Dante fower Jr who was a very situational pass rusher that was really important for them over the course of the last three seasons Marshon nean is goingon to have his opportunities as will Sam Williams and as will Michael Parsons you know there's still opportunities for Michael Parsons on the table too like believe it or not so I I think if um I think if you factor all those things in all those three guys they're going to have shots for me I'm I'm still not necessarily trapped but I I feel like the the question of if Marshon nean could overtake Sam Williams I think it's an apple and it's an orange okay I I think that when you look at marshan nean he's he's quite literally a junior tank okay he is Elite at run defense um now tank is obviously better at pass rush but tank is also a pro bowler who's been in the league a while so he's perfected those moves and that's something that marshan nean would need to do with his hand movements and techniques and learn better how to rush the passer um but when you look at Sam William Sam Williams I said earlier he has the quickest get off uh on the edge outside of Michael Parson he is a pure pass rusher who needs to develop more as run defense so I think it's Apple apples and oranges when it comes to those two I think marshan nean is who's going to be in rotation um with Demarcus Lawrence I think Sam Williams um his number of opportunities is going to depend on where Michael Parsons is lined up on any given play if Michael Parsons is off the ball on that particular play Sam Williams is coming off of the edge if Michael Parson is coming off of the edge then the question for Sam Williams or Mike Zimmer would be is that a set where you're sliding Sam in because you want a little bit smaller but quicker pass rush on that set or do you pull Sam Williams and you get Osa in there and it's Osa and and Mazy because you want more signs in the middle so it'll be interesting to see how that plays out but I do think Sam williams' reps are much more tied to where Michael Parson is than it would be where my Shan nean is y we've talked about on talking Cowboys that there is Def a definite chance great show check it out dallas.com hold on you've been there like a week you've been there like a week I've been back back a week but there I think there is a chance that Mar takes s snaps on special team the break is not good enough for I'm getting ray of sunshine barage over I am sunsh she's that sunshine on Mario right when when he turns his back and it starts to Chase and you turn back around he's like yeah that's what you are but you you actually make a great Josh makes a great Point Special Teams going to play largely on this as well Sam Williams um who's been uh uh you know getting a chunk of special teams plays since he's come into the league but at the same time he's been drawing flags and he's got to do away with those penalties marshan nean he's a rookie obviously he's going to be tasked with playing on special teams as well so marshan nean more on special teams that's a that's a great point if marshan nean is starting to take the bulk of those then in that respect I could see Sam Williams being scaled back from Special Teams which then saves him more so for defense see I see see I see Sam as a very competitive guy not that all of them are not they all are but when you talk about Sam is different the Tweet free me after they won after a win yeah yeah my point is NE coming in I think that maybe creates a new type of fire and drive and and and in him to want to do more like my thing with him and I've been a a a Sam Williams supporter I really like him I I really really like him but he does need to find that focus and just play a cleaner game I think he he gets too much you know you talk about the flags and and that's the problem that he's had since he's got gotten here so I think if I had to say this early I my thought or whatever what I feel is that he will have a much better year than last year like I feel like he's shows that growth this year and he's going to take a step forward I agree and and number one he's in fantastic spirits and he's motivated and he's easily one of the most competitive guys out there um but like we're all saying it's a matter of of honing in that discipline the first thing comes to my mind is versus Buffalo and Buffalo the kick right the punt that can't happen right so those types of mistakes if he can delete those and just kind of hone in and take advantage of the the fact that he's going to get more opportunities with dorren Armstrong being gone Dante Fowler being gone I think this most certainly is an opportunity for Sam to have a breakout season I want to throw a little razzled dazle in there or like spice things up glimmer glitter R hot some hot takes okay who will be the best I don't like that one she had it ready to go it's not live you're I don't it's not live it's not live don't worry about it I like that not at all all it's not live presented by solo on The Who on the defensive side will have the most successful season I guess that's kind of Bor define success I'll say breakthrough can we say breakthrough breakthrough season yeah let's go there great question I like that one those was a really good one you nailed it turned out to be Nick's question you look at it you look at last year and donon bland is your guy right um I don't think you find a guy who has a similar impact that Don had last year obviously but a historic impact yeah exactly I I'm going to I'm going to go with Marshon neand I I think there's an opportunity for him to really replace what dorren's Armstrong vacated um and I think he's going to be the guy to be able to do that rotate in with Demarcus Lawrence and I think he's going to make the negotiation table with Demarcus Lawrence a year from now really interesting I'm gonna go with Dem marvan overon ah I completely forgot about overshown but yeah you're right I know I know I know no way the a I had to jump in there because I feel like everybody's on the dear Dem marvian overshown train he's showing out in practice he's showing out on the field it is going to it's everyone's just so excited to see him play finally in a Cowboys uniform uh since last preseason where he unfortunately got injured uh I just want to see him again on the field yeah it's going to be fun he's going to fly and it's going to be great it's going to be so much fun I do want to go with de Maran over shown but because you did I just did did you were you listening well actually I can do what I want cuz I'm a grown man but um presented by Sol I'm a grown man that presented by solo St um I'm going to go with Sam Williams I'm going to stick with what we just talked about I believe that because Sam Williams will have many more opportunities in the absence of durrance Armstrong and Dante Fowler and you talk about the the uh not only the mental aptitude for the game and the motor and the physical gifts um and the competitiveness it feels different this training camp for Sam Williams it feels like he really believes that he's going to be Unleashed and that's because he is going to be Unleashed and I think he's just going to take advantage of that could am I saying this could be a 10 sack season for for Sam Williams I think the presence of Micah makes that difficult um but I do feel like this could be a seven or eight sack season and even that would be a breakout year for Sam Williams I mean sure Still Still from me I mean that's what I said earlier but go right ha you're welome are you calling me a thief pretty I mean isn't that the definition of Ste oh my w actually that's not see I was defending you earlier yeah steel is is I'm lowkey like damn that's not Cas steel is a verb but you know that's okay no I'm kidding go ahead and Thief is a noun oh I'm sorry English is my Cy language so we did it at the same she's audible ton no we did it at the same a tonight we did it at the same time ray of sunshine Amber Garcia just she said that about herself about 10 minutes ago ray of sunshine no I'm I'm really trying to think of somebody else um was it you or or you Patrick Nick or Patrick that mentioned Osa just being a guy that that would step kind of I was like the guy you were just attack that that came into my head I'm like that's my guy like I lovea and I feel like he can have kind of very impactful season and and fight his way through and actually be very productive on the field I mean I'm I'm a fan of his and we got to remember also TR digs coming back obviously breakthrough is kind of that's hard for for that guy yeah but he's also a guy that I'm curious to see how he comes back when he starts playing what that's what this year is going to look like for him because we will he be at the same level he was exactly exactly we know we've seen that when injured players come back it tends you know they take a while it takes a while so we'll see who's your I do like I do like the OA one real quick point on Osa for those that haven't necessarily paid attention to osa's uh trajectory Osa has exponentially improved year over-year and if that continues and there's no reason why that shouldn't continue that means this year should be exponentially better than last year which was a breakout season in and of itself so while I don't necessarily know if Sam Williams can get 10 sacks because of the presence of Micah there's not much stopping Osa from being a 10 getting a 10 sack season and to consider doing that from a three Tech is insane but he has the talent to do that I'm going with Mazy and I'm only going with Mazy because I got a chance to you know sit down one-on-one with him this off season and he has a chip on his shoulder uh just because of the criticism that he faced last season coming in um you know first round pick and only having 13 tackles in 2023 uh losing that weight like you had mentioned Patrick and I mean now I feel like he's confident more confident in this Mike Zimmer defense and I think that he's truly going going to live up to everybody's expectations that they have for him in 2023 and I'm excited to see it offensive side of the ball who is going to have a breakthrough season go ahead and say the nickname oh my goodness we not stopping with him Amar you go first we not doing it nope Amar what was it turpy tur what turpy tury speed speed sir coin it I've trademarked it and I'll give it to him I don't think he going to take it substantial amount of money I will uh I will let him have the uh copyright find um o hold on let me think Jaylen Tolbert Jaylen Tolbert I I think this is his year to really he's got the number one he's got the visor he's stepping up into a wide receiver three role he's confident you see The Confidence from Dak Prescott to the very first day of uh of Camp they had that back shoulder throw that Dak Prescott is not he's not making that throw a year ago today he's not even making that throw in December so I I think the the the confidence is really really building with Jaylen Tolbert I think he's going to have a year he has roughly 280 career receiving yards I I think he doubles that this year I think he pushes 600 I think he's going to have a really good year the answer is Big Biscuit it's Jake Ferguson um Jake it yeah this is Jake Ferguson I think this is a year where first of all let me let me qualify this way uh Dakin is the tight uh Dak in Dak is a tight end Whisperer okay whether it was he learned how to you know neck with his tight end in the Jason Whitten era he helped make dton Schultz much don't you do it he helped make dton Schultz uh relevant right and now here comes Jake Ferguson who has infinitely more of a skill set than Dalton Schulz did and he showed it and when you look at last season as they switched over to the Texas Coast offense and they had heavy installs and things like that Jake Ferguson along with Brandon Cooks and some of these other guys CD lamb it was a slow start for the offense first four or five games or so okay now there were other things like the offensive line struggles and injuries that factored into that as well but once Jake Ferguson got going there was no stopping Jake Ferguson okay so so that being said now that the heavy inst stalls are behind them and they can play more freely they know what the expectations of um are of Mike McCarthy in this Playbook and where they need to be and the timing of everything Jake Ferguson I Believe by the end of this year he is most certainly in the top three he's a first team allpro and he will be knocking on the door of a thousand yards because I believe that although he's the tight end and Brandon Cooks I believe is going to have a really good year as well I think Jake Ferguson technically might be the second most targeted receiver on the team by the time the year is over Cooks is going to get his make no mistake about it but I think Jake Ferguson might end up being right there with Cooks as far as targets are concerned I was going to say cooks and it's weird to say this because you talk about a veteran guy that's kind of towards the later years of his career but to me I don't see how you do an a year end or a season and year re year end review is that how you say year end review and you don't say to yourself man we there's so many opportunity missed opportunities with Brandon Cooks there's no way for you to see that and and not realize that so I think this is a year that they they look at all of that and they create better opportunities for Dak to Target him more because we saw that so many different times throughout the season different games where he was open he he knows how to run routes and get open and I think that the Cowboys underutilized them really on offense last year well I think it was also because in the first couple of weeks they were still trying to find their identity right for more than a couple weeks for more first wasn't that Char that Chargers game was the first one that really it was after that that they really got on board man I don't feel like it happened until after the byee CU Chargers game was really rough and then they go to San Francisco say after after the after the Chargers you're right you're right absolutely yeah and also credit to Mike McCarthy and but also Brandon Cooks in this aspect as far as that relationship is concerned you know by the midpoint of the Season we heard Brandon Cooks you know doing things like going off of the field and telling Mike McCarthy this is what I'm seeing this is what I'm seeing you know can we check out this play and try this and then the very next play Brandon Cooks for a big Gainer so the fact that Mike McCarthy is open to that type of real time input from all of his Playmakers and just players in general that's the kind of cohesiveness that you need to continue to take steps forward from not simply being the number one offense but being a number one offense that's so far above and beyond who number two is because the Cowboys still had some struggles like with the run and things like that so it's not as if they can't improve they most certainly can but like I I agree with Amber I believe Brandon Cooks could is definitely going to have an explosive year he's not only is he saying all the right things but we already know he can do all the right things and he's mentoring guys like Jaylen Tober for example you want to talk about what one of the reasons Jaylen Tober is progressing and taking these steps it's Brandon Cooks it's CD lamb so it all works together all right Josh real fast your offensive real quick um obviously solo kavant Turpin would be would be the one but um you have a new look offensive line and I think the one of the players most everybody is is excited about is Cooper BB uh I'll go ahead and drop a Nick a new nickname if that's okay with you guys can I unveil it by all means all right um I don't think we have a choice BB driver okay BB dri I I can allow that one actually dver Driver Line let's go BB D I don't know I don't like that one I think Brock Hoffman wins that Center Spot I really do I I think he I think he wins that Center Spot hot like the solo I think a year I think a year from now we're potentially talking about a Right Guard battle between Cooper BB and TJ bass all right well that'll do it for this episode hopefully we get a chance to do this again what a way to leave it next couple week hell of a c next couple of weeks but make sure to follow us on all of our follow all of our content on dallascowboys.com we have our podcast we've got our shows we got all things Dallas Cowboy training camp so make sure to follow us but that's a wrap for this camping out episode presented by solo sto the official fire pit of the Dallas Cowboys check them out at solostove.com that's a WAP this has been a production of dallascowboys.com and the dallascowboys football club how [Music] about for