CNBC’s Joe Kernen Throws Down With an Ex-GOP Senator Who Backed Trump Twice and is Now Bailing:

BACK. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE -- >> I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THAT. >> OR SENATE. >> YEAH. >> GUYS LIKE YOU, GUYS LIKE PAUL RYAN THAT TELL ME -- YOU GIVE ME A LIST OF REASONS WHY KAMALA HARRIS WOULD BE THE WORST THING TO EVER HAPPEN BUT STILL WON'T VOTE FOR TRUMP AND SAY SOMETHING LIKE IT'S NOT REALLY A VOTE FOR HARRIS, AND I -- BECAUSE IT'S A BINARY CHOICE, SO A VOTE NOT FOR TRUMP IS A TRUMP FOR HARRIS? >> FIRST OF ALL, I VOTED FOR TRUMP TWICE IN 2016 AND 2020, BUT WHEN YOU LOSE IN AN ELECTION BUT TRY -- >> WE ARE ALLFAMILIAR. >> YOU LOSE ME AT THAT POINT. >> SO YOU PREFER KAMALA HARRIS -- >> HOLD ON. HOLD ON. I ACKNOWLEDGE THE OUTCOME IS A BINARY SITUATION, BUT MY CHOICE IS NOT. YOU AND I WILL DISAGREE ON THIS. >> WHAT IF IT CAME DOWN TO ONE VOTE AND IT'S YOURS -- >> IT'S AN EXCEPTIONAL POSITION FOR ME TO SAY NEITHER OF THESE CANDIDATES -- >> OKAY, UNREALIZED CAPITAL GAINS -- >> WELL, WE NEED REPUBLICAN CONTROL OF THE SENATE AND THAT'S ESSENTIAL. IF THE OTHER SIDE RUNS THE TABLE, THEN THEY WILL REPEAL THE FILIBUSTER AND THEY WILL BE DRAGGED BY THEIR LEFT WING, WHICH IS CLEARLY IN CHARGE NOW, AND I THINK KAMALA HARRIS PROVED THAT WITH HER VICE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, AND THERE WILL BE A MEDICARE FOR ALL AND THERE WILL BE NO BRAKES. BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS, I THINK REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO TAKE THE SENATE. >> PERHAPS, BUT THERE'S PLENTY -- OKAY, THERE'S PLENTY OF REGULATORY MOVES FROM BIDEN, PLENTY OF EXECUTIVE ORDERS AND PLENTY OF THINGS EVEN IF THE SENATE DOES WELL -- >> YES, THERE'S DAMAGE THAT WILL BE DONE THERE AND A REPUBLICAN SENATE CAN MITIGATE THAT BY ITS POWER OF CONFIRMATION, SO THEY HAVE TO HANG TOUGH ON SOME OF THE NOMINEES. >> IT COULD BE A DEFENSIVE GRIDLOCK TYPE OF SITUATION, WHERE THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO DOESN'T HAPPEN, AND WE DON'T MAKE IT A CIVIL OFFENS

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