New poll shows Harris leading Trump by 5 points post-debate

OF THE SECRETARY. >>> JUST 53 DAYS AWAY FROM THE ELECTION AND FOLLOWING THE FIRST DEBATE, NEW POLLING SHOWS THAT HARRIS HAS WIDENED HER LEAD. THE NEW REUTERS POLL FOUND THAT THE VP IS UP BY FIVE POINTS WITH HARRIS AT 47% AGAINST TRUMP'S 42%. THE SAME POLLING LAST MONTH SHOWED HARRIS WITH THE 45 TO 41% LEAD. BOTH WERE BACK ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL YESTERDAY AFTER A DAY OFF FOR 9/11 CEREMONIES. WE ARE BRINGING IN LESLIE SANCHEZ AND JOEL PAYNE. WELCOME, I GET YOU GUYS TWICE IN ONE WEEK. WHAT A TREAT. LESLIE, WE WILL START WITH YOU. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID AFTER DEBATING HIDING IN JUNE AND HARRIS THIS WEEK THAT HE IS DONE WITH DEBATING. RALLY GOERS SAID THAT TRUMP SHOULD FOCUS MORE ON I GUESS, WHATEVER THE TASK AT HAND IS. >> IF I COULD STAND IN FRONT OF TRUMP RIGHT NOW I WOULD SAY CONCENTRATE ON YOUR WINS, FORGET ABOUT EVERYTHING SHE IS DOING. JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU DO BEST AND HOW YOU WILL GET IN FRONT OF PEOPLE AND WHAT YOUR PLATFORM IS. HE WILL WIN ON THAT. >> EVEN SOME OF HIS SUPPORTERS AT HIS RALLIES THOUGHT HE DIDN'T DO SO WELL IN THE DEBATE. WHAT DO YOU THINK? IS IT A GOOD IDEA OR BAD IDEA FOR HIM TO NOT GET BACK ON THE DEBATE STAGE? >> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. IT REMINDS ME OF BILL CLINTON'S ADAGE, STRONG AND WRONG BEATS WE CAN WRITE. IN MANY CASES THE VICE PRESIDENT LOOKED VERY STRONG. YOU COULD ARGUE THAT THE POLICIES WERE WRONG AND IT WAS A VERY WEAK PERFORMANCE FOR THE FORMER PRESIDENT. IT DID NOT HELP HIM IN THE STANDINGS AND MORE IMPORTANTLY IT DID NOT HELP HIM WITH VOTERS THAT ARE ON THE FENCE BECAUSE IT DID NOT DISCUSS THE ECONOMY OR THE DEBT. EVERYONE WAS FRUSTRATED, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN WHO CLOCKED IT AS A WIN. THE REALITIES ARE, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY TIGHT RACE. BATTLEGROUNDS ARE WHERE THEY NEED TO SPEND THEIR MONEY AND THEIR TIME. THE RISK ASSESSMENT OF IS TRUMP ACTUALLY GOING TO PREPARE FOR A DEBATE THE WAY HE NEEDED TO AND PUT THAT TIME INTO IT WHEN THE CLOCK IS REALLY TAKING, I DON'T THINK IT IS A WIN FOR THE CAMPAIGN. THEY WILL SAY THAT THE PARTISAN BASES AND ALL THESE ISSUES ABOUT THE MODERATORS, THAT WILL FRUSTRATE THE CAMPAIGN AS WELL. >> JOEL, TALKING ABOUT SPENDING TIME IN THE BATTLEGROUND STATES, VP HARRIS CERTAINLY RIDING THE WAVE OF MOMENTUM, SHE WENT TO THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA AND APPARENTLY THERE WAS QUITE A TURNOUT THERE. TALKING MORE THAN 17,000 PEOPLE IN GREENSBORO. LET'S PLAY SOME SOUND FROM THAT RALLY. [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] >> I MEAN, I'M THINKING BACK TO THE DEBATE COMMENTS FROM THE TRUMP RALLY'S. THAT IS A LOT OF PEOPLE AND I DON'T THINK THAT THEY WERE BUSTING. WHAT YOU MAKE OF THAT MOMENTUM AND WHAT IS THE BEST WAY FOR THE VICE PRESIDENT TO USE THAT MOMENTUM? >> MY PARENTS WERE TRYING TO GO AND THEY COULD NOT GET IN BECAUSE IT WAS AT CAPACITY. SO I KNOW FIRSTHAND THAT THEY HAD A LOT OF FOLKS THERE. THERE IS A LOT OF MOMENTUM THERE AND IT EVEN TIES TO THE DEBATE TOPIC WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. SOMETHING THAT HARRIS HAS DONE SO WELL IS COMPETING WITH TRUMP IN THE ATTENTION OF THE ECONOMY. DONALD TRUMP IS USUALLY ABLE TO OWN AND MANAGE THE MEDIUM NARRATIVE BECAUSE HE IS ALL- ENCOMPASSING AND DOMINANT IN ALL PLATFORMS AND I THINK HARRIS HAS REALLY COMPETED WITH HIM AND GONE TOE TO TOE WITH HIM BY CREATING THESE GIANT RALLIES WHERE PEOPLE SEE THE MOMENTUM. SHE'S ALSO DONE SUCH A GOOD JOB OF NOT JUST SAYING IT, BUT SHOWING IT. THERE IS ONE THING TO TALK ABOUT JOY, CALL THE OTHER SIDE WEIRD AND IT'S ANOTHER THING TO DEMONSTRATE IT. THOSE ARE TWO INNATE POLITICAL SKILLS THAT HAVE FRANKLY PROBABLY SURPRISED A LOT OF DEMOCRATS THAT DID NOT KNOW THAT VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS HAD THIS WITHIN HER. AND SHE WILL NEED THAT IN SPADES IF SHE PLANS TO WIN THE ELECTION. >> JOY AND VIBES ARE OBVIOUSLY WORKING FOR THE VP THAT WE ARE STILL KIND OF SHORT ON A LOT OF DETAILS IN TERMS OF HER POLICY. I THINK EVERYONE CAN AGREE THAT WE NEED MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. EVERY TIME I HEAR HER SAY THAT, MY FOLLOW-UP QUESTION IS HOW WILL THAT HAPPEN? YOU TELL ME JOEL, YOU WOULD BE ADVISING A CANDIDATE. IS IT TIME TO GIVE US MORE DETAILS, OR, THE FUNDRAISING IS WORKING, MAYBE THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO GIVE A FEW MORE DETAILS ON HOW SHE PLANS TO PULL OFF SOME OF HER PROMISES. >> I THINK WHAT A CANDIDATE NEEDS TO DO IN HER POSITION IS EVERYTHING. AND YOU NEED TO DO THE DETAILS AND YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE MOMENTUM. THE GOOD THING FROM A DEMOCRATIC PERSPECTIVE IS THAT I THINK SHE IS DOING THAT. SHE DID THAT BIG INTERVIEW COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND HAS DONE SOME INTERVIEWS WITH NICHE AFRICAN-AMERICAN OUTLETS. SINCE THEN SHE HAS OBVIOUSLY HAD THE DEBATE, DOING THESE BIG RALLIES. SHE HAS ONLY BEEN THE PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE FOR LESS THAN TWO MONTHS AND THE OFFICIAL NOMINEE FOR LESS THAN A MONTH. I THINK SHE IS AT A VERY ACCELERATED PACE HERE FOR ANY NOMINEE IN MODERN HISTORY. I THINK SHE IS MOVING AT THE PACE YOU WOULD EXPECT HER TO MOVE IT. BUT IT IS WORKING. REGARDLESS OF WHAT PUNDITS LIKE MYSELF OR LESLIE MY THING, IT IS WORKING FOR HER. SO WHATEVER SHE IS DOING, IT IS WORKING. THAT IS MY ADVICE TO HER, KEEP DOING WHAT'S WORKING. >> EVEN THOUGH YOU RISE LIKE A BALLOON DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU CAN'T BE POPPED. WE CAN'T IT DO A COPY AND PASTE OF THE BIDEN POSITION SAYING IT IS THE SAME OF FOUR MORE YEARS OF THE BIDEN ECONOMY. THAT IS WHERE, ANN-MARIE, TO YOUR POINT, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH DISTINCTION FOR VOTERS TO SAY THAT THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM BIDENOMICS AND THAT IS WH