What happened to Florida State?! Danny Kanell joins the show! | Always College Football YT Exclusive

okay emergency podcast here we had to bring in null faithful alumnus Danny canel to help solve the problems of the seol Danny people are freaking out in Tallahassee people are freaking out all over the country and people are dancing on the seol's grave I'll give you the floor first immediate reaction about the start through the first two weeks oh it's bad like you can't sugarcoat to Greg I think I was talking to a couple of my Florida State buddies there's a text thread going around and asking like when was the last time you felt this sort of I don't know despair despondency just Agony because and there was there was some rough losses like like Florida State lost to Jacksonville State not that long ago um I think the thing that hurts the most is the expectation coming into this season was this was a team that could contend for the playoffs I don't I think even the most realistic Florida State fan was like I don't know if we can win a National Championship but we can win the ACC again and we can we can get that opportunity to play in the playoffs and man does that feel a million miles away from where they sit right now at 0 and2 well understandably like and it I don't want to get to the quarterback just yet we'll get there um but the thing that I find most troubling are the things that they told us were good have not really materialized like the offensive line has gotten pushed around a couple times against both Georgia Tech and last night against Boston College you look at their defensive line supposed to be one of the best in the sport they're getting mow off off the ball the effort was good like the effort was better this week than it was last week but they were getting moved so were we being sold a a bill of goods or maybe did this group kind of read their press clippings in the off season maybe a little bit of both right I think there's because I mean Patrick pyton I watched him a lot last year and he was phenomenal but he had a better Supporting Cast around him maybe he's just a little bit too young in his career to be that Alpha that can really dominate a defensive line front that you know is showcasing some weaknesses right now Marvin Jones Jr another one who came in from Georgia I think a lot of people said oh that's uh Jeremy Johnson um that was his name right came in from Georgia the last time and was the transfer was like oh yeah he can just step in and fill right in where he left off and everybody's different every class is different every transfer portal player is different and I think there's 100% this class was this this defensive front was over at I don't think there's any way other to do it you know they've had flashes but you're right every in for two games now you've looked at both teams and this goes across the board but I do think it kind of the glaring weakness that you thought was going to be a strength was the offensive and defensive lines where you said that other team had better Talent yeah and that's probably the thing that I think is the hardest thing to come to grips with with Florida State fans and anybody like myself who was high on the seminal coming into the season you look there's a reason to be high like that like Mike norell kind of earned the benefit of the doubt for a while there like he's going to fortify the the areas that might have been a concern based on the roster and based on his track record in the portal uh the quarterback situation everyone's ripping DJ d shrs one I don't think they watched the same game I did against George Tech I I think they cut him loose they did try to cut him loose last night but the protection wasn't great and I still don't think the receivers are very good so how much of the blame should be on DJ as opposed to the offensive identity and perhaps maybe The Supporting Cast it's a split um you know this better than anybody like the quarterback's always goingon to catch the most heat he's goingon to catch the most Strays and that's what's happening with DJ which is the absolute worst thing that can happen with the quarterback who mentally struggles with confidence I mean I think that's very clear going back to Clemson I think that's why dbo was so positive with his every time he talked to the Press he was like DJ's our guy never wavered in his faith he's doing the right things in practice always bringing up the good things I think that was probably the similar situation in Oregon State but we didn't hear about it because they're not really a nationally covered team but I think two things happened one I think DJ thought he was going to go to a place where he would have outstanding support and I also think Florida State thought they would give him the best situation he's been in his career so you could get the best version of DJ what I think has happened it might be the worst version it might be the worst surrounding cast around around him that he's had and that's a really bad combustible mix because now you're seeing a quarterback who clearly is struggling you I always like to look yes I like to break down film I like to look at technique but a lot of times I like to look at the eyes you know like where is this quarterback's head space and he looks like somebody who's lost who's shaken who desperately needs somebody to step up and make play for him and the worst part about it is I mean there were at least five or six drops last night in crucial situations that could have got him some Mojo could got him some confidence to okay the next pass is a little bit easier instead every pass is hard to complete and when somebody struggling as much mentally as he is it's just a recipe for disaster I feel like they were always behind the sticks too like it was really unfortunate like I I hate it when quarterback's shoulder all the blame because I don't think it's all on him uh but there were Miss throws and that's what people will point to Danny does an amazing job alongside dusy dorek on college sports uh Network on Sirus X7 Channel 84 you can check that out every day has an amazing job on the uh cover three podcast as well even though you're never there on Saturdays you're especially never there on Saturdays when Florida State loses I don't know why that is I know you're working in other places but it's got to be it's got to be because you're avoiding the heat is that what it is yes I go into hiding I mean I didn't know if you know I didn't even watch the game last night like I was like hey this episode of American Ninja Warrior awesome I was trying to act like I didn't see what was happening because I was getting absolutely roasted proba I mean most of it's deserved I can I can be you know I can admit that but it was uh it was ugly the the other thing too and we've seen this happen in a number of fan bases it does not do any good to be calling for Brock Glenn the backup at halftime to be you know roasting your own quarterback and that is the hardest place to play sometimes and I'm actually looking forward it's not going to happen soon because they have the bye then they have Memphis coming to Tallahassee Sometimes the best thing is to get out of the home crowd where you hear those murmurs those Rumblings that adds to the pressure that he's already feeling and um we'll see I mean we were joking before we came on like you said what can fix it I said maybe free agency like can they go out during the season is there a trade deadline where you could add somebody because clearly they think he's the best option did you think they should have benched him because I thought in the third quarter there was a minute where you give you give him a break like let him see somebody else do it and if Brock Glenn goes out there and moves the chains move and you get some spark of life then you say okay but instead they stuck with him and I I guess the point was that if you if you bailed on him now you're bailing on for the season I think that's why Mike Norville stuck with him because he didn't want to feel like we're throwing in the towel on DJ just yet yeah I think it's too early at this point um also I've seen Brock Glenn I mean I think there's this natural assumption that amongst fans that oh well if this guy can't get a gun the next guy can well there's a million reps that Mike norell and his staff have evaluated since DJ got on campus and they clear clearly believe that he is the guy that gives him the best chance to be successful and the second you pull the plug on the guy that gives you the best chance then you run the risk of not just making messing up DJ's confidence but losing the team yeah so you don't want to lose the team in week two so I I think that they they got a dance with Hub brung at this point and if if Brock Glenn had shown us something in his time under Center last year or in the shotgun last year then I'd feel maybe a little differently but he looked like a deer in headlights at times as well uh before we get you out of here and I know I really appreciate you having I'm just curious like as a fan like the fans are little beside themselves uh understandably I think they are being treated more negatively than most because of how they handled the playoff situation last year uh other fan bases are really enjoying the team that quote complained all offseason starting out 0 and2 but how much of the vitri all is because of what happened last year and how much did was there more pressure on this season because of what happened last year I guess that's kind of where I'm at it just feels like kind of a convoluted mess frankly around it right now oh it feels like Florida state is the most hated fan base in the country uh it definitely feels that way and I know fans can you know can give it to any fan base but I think it's a culmination of a lot of things I think it's how aggressive they were with you know being upset about being left out of the playoff um you know FSU Twitter is very much a thing and you know a lot of it was you know publicized when Herby and Dan orlovski and yourself and others were saying they needed extra security and I do think that's the lunatic fringe right like clearly no one would endorse that but they were loud they were obnoxious and I think that added to it you know what else I think adds to it is the lawsuit with the ACC I don't think that helps the situation at all and I think what you're talking about I think it adds even more pressure like you guys are supposed to be this team that is Above the Rest in the ACC that sees thems as better than everybody else well look you can't even beat two of the middle of the road opponents like H like that's where it all kind of comes together in this perfect storm that the team finds themselves in the center of and which makes the the fans even that much more despondent that much more willing to you know go off and turn on their on themselves now now they're starting to turn on the team and that's my biggest fear that because I think that's this will probably be one of the biggest challenges of Mike norvell's career is keeping this team together in intact fighting because it didn't look great at the end looked like they threw in the towel at the end of the Boston College game that to me will be his biggest challenge in this era when you've got so many new players who don't have those deep bonds like I had when I went was a freshman class we stayed four years together sometimes five and you wanted to bleed next to your guy and you would do anything to protect your teammate now these guys have only been on campus for six months how willing are they to stick it out and to fight it out when things are tough I think that's going to be really big big challenge for Mike norell yeah it'll be can it be fixed like seriously I know we joke about like free agency you got to go get new players like that that's not happening like is there is there a silver lining here to feel good about perhaps if Florida State can somehow turn it around there's a byee they can't lose this weekend I think that's the biggest one I so a win cures a lot of things right they and boy I tell you Memphis all of a sudden one of the better teams in the group of five you talk about desperation times they have to run the football they have to get DJ's confidence up like they need all this thing and that's why I do think I'm not making an excuse like they could have used this year a firman a citadel a chatt some team they could have just gone and imposed their will and really would have been a layup to get some confidence instead they've been faced with adversity right off the bat they faced two kind of new schemes right there was a lot of new like you don't see an opponent they're going to throw some new schemes at you that they got burned against Georgia Tech with that Bill O'Brien had a phenomenal game plan that they didn't adjust to very quickly but that puts you behind the eight ball at least they'll be having some film on this one and the best part about it is if you if you're Mike noral you say hey we got two of our biggest challenges ahead Us in Miami on the road Clemson at home let's go let's go prove every it's us against the world like it's us against them and that's what they're going to have to do and like you said DJ's shown some flashes like he's made some throws that were dropped he clearly has been erratic but can you get his confidence up with one win then stack it with two it's even I don't to say it's start with a win it has start with one completed pass then it's two completed passes then it's a touchdown like get him some confidence and if you can get him to believe maybe we get that version that we saw at Notre Dame as a freshman or the one against wake who put up five or six touchdown passes like right that's your hope but it does feel like wishful thinking right now all right you referenced it already they're 0 and2 right now Notre Dame Miami uh Clemson I mean you still got three's on the road man on the road like kind of look at it it's like Memphis is not an easy Cakewalk like what do you think their final record is going to be at season's end I mean realistically look like and what does reality look like I guess would be my question um you know 10 and two definitely seems like a pipe dream and that's what people are selling right two hey man that's amazing I think eight and four is you salvaged a season that get off to a horrific start you know and if you could somehow beat a Miami or beat a Clemson and you know those two teams are playing for the ACC Championship game then you feel like you salvaged something that was really sideways you know and I think that's probably another thing that Florida State fans and maybe even like the collective are struggling with because I do think Florida state was aggressive in the portal and it'll be interesting to see different strategies of different teams because sometimes you feel like you have a chance Old Miss is a great example they feel like their schedule their quarterback Jackson Dart they went ahead and went all in on the portal and like this is a year we could do something special other ones I think are taking a little bit more of a a passive approach saying we want to be we want to make sure we're building towards something but we don't want to waste all of our resources in a year when we don't think we can do something special I think that's one thing that's probably bothering and there's some regret there from Florida State you know funders of man did we waste a year financially because we thought we were going to be better than we were I think that's got to be some you know some serious discussions behind closed doors and re-evaluating kind of the strategy moving forward in this new era of having to fun these teams yeah it's crazy man Danny awesome we appreciate it hate that your seminal are off to a tough start you can always check Danny out I would imagine he's received some phone calls on his show alongside Dusty in the morning on sirusxm Channel 84 and then you can listen to him on the cover three podcast as well Danny awesome and cbsh HQ you have I know you were a million many well good luck to your nlls hang in there and hopefully we see some light at the end of the tunnel appreciate you bud appreciate it