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it's time to break up with the life you made up it's time to trade up live the life you want now a life you don't doubt I could give a [ __ ] out just be your RIT out wake up wake up man this life is a blur everyone's got an opinion so which one you prefer cuz I'll give you one that's coming from an entrepreneur don't give up on your dream if is what you deserve [Music] [Music] [Music] failure ain't an option so i' be cautious I hope that you're watching don't try to stop this work until I'm nauseous cuz I will not quit no because I want this don't try to stop me ain't an option so I be cautious I hope that you're watching don't try to stop this I'm I will not quit because I this don't try to me now [Music] try [Music] to you're a an option so i' be cautious I hope that you're watching don't try to stop this work until I'm naous cuz I not quit no because I want this don't try to stop me [Music] now ah hello hello hello hello hello and welcome to the 390th episode of the ucw show check the title Twitter space spur debate show so we got some Spurling hopefully going to come in here I'm feeding them like minnows like some bluegill on a Friday afternoon after 15-year-old chronic got off the bus to go home and he had some bread in his pocket so he wanted to make sure the bluegills that his local Lake were nice and fat so when he caught them later it'd be a good day got to feed the haters you have to feed the haters if you don't feed the haters they get weak sickly they get diseased eased they never show up they get scared of agrega anyhow if you want to support the show if you want to support the war ban consider donating to cash app. sign please don't ban that's cash app. sign please don't ban let's put up a a decent image you guys can look at while we talk to some haters uh this one we'll do Bazinga have you been prepared anyhow Chaz if you want to join the uh the conversation get on the Twitter space I guess I'll put the do I have the Twitter space available here's a Twitter space guys if you have a Twitter if you have a Twitter there it is anyhow shout out to link link 1945 for setting the space up for me because I'm not going to do this [ __ ] on my phone once they do Twitter spaces on the PC then i' start making them on my own but for now we're joining someone else's but I asked him to set it up so uh under chronic vers haters debate space red pill and more let's join this okay let's see here there we go are we good we'll see we'll see how long it takes to get now actually just be muted if you you guys don't mind hey what's up link what's up Undead how's it going bro yeah if we get if we end up getting like 18 people talking at the same time I'll let you know to kick some people or to unspeak some people I guess I'm I'm making you co-host so you so you have full you know control of the room oh I never had that before on ever well we pop my co-host Cherry bro I don't even know I even know how to do that I'm on my PC I'm never on I'm never doing this on uh my phone I just I actually don't even have Twitter on my phone let's see here can I no yeah so I yeah so I sent you the co-host the the link so whenever you get it you'll be able to mute people you'll be able to remove people so you know you have full control just like I do over the room cool can you give it to can you give it to Chaz too yeah I'll give it a Chaz too what's up chess hey can you hear me yeah I can hear you oh okay cool chz have you ever joined Twitter spaces before no I joined a couple I think the only ones I've joined have actually been links and um this dude will do like a Twitter space that has 30 people in it and they'll be like Rollo [ __ ] tomasi or pearly things or people with millions of Subs just casually jumping in it and uh how long have you been subed to me link dude I've been subed to you for for like five years since your Undead chronic was it 12th or third like 12th Channel yeah it's hard to remember what was do you remember the first video you saw of mine bro it's been so long I know I don't remember I'm G to grab some me some me kind of night go ahead Chaz yeah and once Chaz gets back with his drinks we can we can start but uh how's your week been like it's been good bro it's been good what here on my YouTube because I'm streaming this to YouTube at the same time yo chronic what's the best way to start weightlifting where do you start and how do you get better honestly um when I started I had a teacher it was at it was a sports team in middle school I think having a a teacher is good if you've never lifted before because there's always the concern that you're going to hurt yourself it's call as a confidence booster but if you can't find a teacher and it's it's the easy to find someone to show you what to do in the gym you go to the gym and you ask some random random dude who's doing a workout you want to do hey can you show me how to do that 90% of them will take their time out of their day to show you that guaranteed you don't have to pay a personal trainer a gym personal trainer you don't have to pay for like really anything online like there's nothing online to pay for Fitness wise that's you know the secret sauce unless you're paying to have um you know juice sent to your house or something I mean if if you can't find a trainer let's say you're alone in the woods most of every single exercise form has been documented in pictures and video online I know the bodybuilding forms I've heard good things about there's a bunch of stuff on YouTube but if you're trying to act like start for a beginner plan like a beginner plan I would just lift four days a week okay do legs one day do back one day do uh chest and shoulders one day and then do arms and abs one day that's what I would do do it for like 30 minutes to 45 minutes if you're starting if like I I don't know what position you're in bro but that's what I would uh that's what I would tell someone who's asking how to get into it let's see dror fourth wall says chronic I remember you in the Twitter space the other day and this guy bombing hard RN words dude I was doing the same thing it was it was it was funny because I was on this Twitter space I don't know what it was about I think it was about um whether were stepfather's cuckolds I think that's I think that was the topic and yeah it ended up turning into this random black I think he was an incel I think his name was like black cell or true black cell or something I think he owned the title incel used to tell like you know all the white women all want black guys now because black guys are rising up and I'm like okay but who's the poorest group of men in the US okay who is the least likely to go to jail probably Asians I think I think Asians are least likely to go to jail but it's just it it was ended up being a per capita conversation and when I say that I mean you didn't understand per capita and once I get to the point where I realize I'm talking to somebody that doesn't understand per capita if it's a one-on-one on YouTube it makes for a funny clips but if it's on a Twitter space of people talking over each other it's just a waste of my time so I just left as soon as soon as I found out he was a per capita I just left all right I'm back what's up chess I'm just really tired today so uh you got the co-host privileges too by the way okay cool I don't know how to use it so I'm hoping you figure out how to use it oh okay okay I get you giving you the work I'm supposed to do dude uh imagine I just cleared the entire room just immediately D snap everyone like no no one gets to talk we all get banned from Twitter it's like what did you do jazz damn it oops my bad dude I thought was hilarious as soon as I showed up like as soon as I show up your gaming stream you got one shot [ __ ] off man it's not even funny like it's hilarious but it's the most uncanny [ __ ] you show up the immediately I eat [ __ ] I don't get it I mean it's happening the only game where that didn't happen bro was dustborne have you heard you've heard of dustborne right link yeah I've heard of Dorn yeah that yeah yeah yeah I force this [ __ ] to play the whole game he did oh oh I know I I I watched a couple of his [ __ ] streams I was laughing my ass off how many views does your video have by the way Chaz uh I think 128 so probably going to hit 130 in a day or two 128,000 right yeah okay cool good [ __ ] I actually feel better when you were Yeet or gray or someone else gets a viral video I don't think my last viral video was probably it's probably about Asian women to be honest probably about Asian women or or never whenever you do your absolute state of Western white women those usually pop off you know I I telled the other stream the absolute state of Western women I think I got to just make a 15 minute segment because I'm hoping to start a new channel soon because this one's gotten stale because I'll never get monetized it's not monetization I'm getting maybe 100 Subs a month right and you can see it on the YouTube growth uh graph the YouTube analytics where YouTube was just like [ __ ] this green guy and they just put the thumb down on it but with a new channel they don't know who it's related to I don't have any of the flags on it so maybe I'll make a 15-minute video on just titled the absolute state of white woman yet again and uh we'll we'll just make fun of some white uh slores exactly yeah I got to find some good store I mean there's an ample amount of stories but um stories memes dating profiles I saw a someone sent me a screenshot I'm trying to think of the dating app it wasn't hinge it wasn't no it was Bumble of course it was Bumble of course it was Bumble this it's a bumble sent out like a news alert a news whatever and it was um it was like attention men in your or attention profiles in your area have been subjected to screenshotting for the purposes of online misogyny and hate speech if you are found to be screenshotting profiles you'll get better some some [ __ ] like that because people are making these dating accounts and just screenshotting the female accounts just roasting them online I mean I'm guilty of doing that myself it's so funny you see 35-year-old tatted up they got multicolored hair just saying I deserve I deserve I deserve like don't come at me with games y y yada and if you have the audacity to point and laugh oh oh you're the problem can you imagine Chaz how much fun Freedom would be imagine if we allowed on YouTube to stream like you just make a make a dating profile whatever you can have buy like free unlimited swipes for that session and then just for an hour swipe roast roast roast roast roast no you just exactly but that that that kind of content I did a couple videos of it it was like within the same month back in 2017 2018 they basically shut that down they're like no cannot do that big issue with that kind of content is that although like it's not actually doxing right because it's a it's a public profile I wouldn't be surprised if you know people are would try to say oh you're doxing these profiles and y y y so oh it's funny because they be like you can't make fun of people's dating profiles because it's mean-spirited what do you think women do when they're together what do you think they do I last time I was at a bar it was grp like multiple groups of women just showing each other their dating profile matches and making fun of them oh chronic chronic so for my uh 6K sub stream I had another little session of watching my big fat fabulous life and literally one of the segments I went over is them talking about this big fat 40-year-old woman's dating preferences it's so funny that's pretty good we got super chat from scurvy ROM he says I wanted to take your co-host virginity I'm sorry scurvy you got cucked you got cucked today um let's see here jogger left oh dude there was a I'll say this for another ucw show but I got a story I think it was in Southeast Asia I don't know what she is uh Malaysian or taii or Philippino but this Asian girl was jogging and she got attacked by a war party of otter she was like left confused and bleeding on the ground and like the the New York Post picture was like this woman on the ground like like suffering and the other picture was like like the cutest otter you'd ever seen like smelling camera oh it's funny okay who's first Chaz who's the or I guess I should ask link who are the let link try to let link try to control that [ __ ] who uh all right who's disagree who are the disagre the haters so we got we got uh Sergio over here who you have debated in the past and he he would like to to debate you on like I guess grifting or whatnot so Sergio sure yeah no I just uh like you had accused me of that the past and I just wanted to know how I was a grifter what do you okay I need to um set the stage for my audience on YouTube right now because personal stuff that happened in the past if we just go straight into it everybody's gonna be confused right so I just ask you a couple questions what do you do for work uh right now I work at a strip club and then also uh I like on the side I do business stuff so I do mostly Google my business and like rep management for local businesses and then online I do mostly ghost writing but I still help a couple YouTube channels and an Instagram person a Tik Tok person so it's not strictly just Twitter and ghost writing it I do a little bit of marketing just in general so is marketing to online people online personas is that a good definition yeah most of the people who I worked for like already have growing businesses and I'm just helping their businesses scale more um it's very rarely somebody that's I'm trying to get into helping anybody start a personal brand and like give them like the package of everything but I'm still building it right now right now like I'll give somebody access to my CRM for $5 a month and that makes it where they can build their own website like they can do whatever like basically it's a $500 CRM and I just give it to them for $5 a month so it's just it's just for them to practice doing their own stuff and I do like free videos that teach how to like use the CRM but none of it is paid it's all it's all free stuff do you sell any courses that's like the like I'll do ghost writing if you consider that like a course but that's not it's not really a course like I I'll sell that I'll do all their automation for them yeah consider that of course um let's go through the list here working on a night a strip club no that's just a job working for businesses to help them get more hits on Google is that a fair definition yeah just Google my business stuff and rep management I wouldn't consider that grifting um showing people or Consulting with people to get more hits online um it's closer to the grifter scale but just that that definition I don't consider grifting um let's see here is that did I did I hit all your or I guess selling a c CRM use for $5 a month right yeah yeah that's not grifting that's just selling access to a $500 product uh I think I called you grifter before because I was under the impression that you sold courses on how to grow your personal brand because it it's not really if if you consider the $5 a month you know like it's all part of that package like and I and and like I'll be starting to do spaces soon that are just personal branding spaces and how to grow a business like and that's going to be like you could say that that's why I guess my question is is that grifting because I'm trying to teach normal people to start doing that type of stuff so at the best on the best end of the scale right do you think people would pay Arnold Schwarz Ander his prime to teach him how to LIF yes of course people would pay it do you think people would pay Boogie the the fat gaming YouTuber on how to get jacked no I'm not saying you're Boogie I'm not saying you're Arnold where you land on the scale from Boogie to Arnold on the actual skill of what it is kind of determines of what you're a grifter or not a little bit but another part is what you're actually giving them producing for them I might have called you grifter last time we spoke because I think we were arguing about something else and I got pissed off but what you describe today I don't I wouldn't I wouldn't put you on the definite grifter scale if that makes sense and then you don't consider yourself a grifter correct I guess we have to I guess to make it clear it's good for us to Define grifter because it's a very um me mized word it's like on the internet like people will call Trump grifter for asking for donations for his political campaign it's like okay now I think what I would Define as a grifter is I would say someone who doesn't believe it's it's much more like beliefs right like people who sell a belief a mindset whereas if you're selling this is how you get views there's at least something tangible but if someone's saying this is how you get women to like you that's very broad right so I would say a grifter is someone who will change their beliefs will switch what they talk about switch what they're quote unquote expert in for the purposes of lying to an audience to get money I think that's my best definition of grifter right now what what do you think uh I mean that's based off of like everybody's calling sneo a grifter and stuff so like I think products evolve like if I find out if like 6 months ago I thought the best way to like do my program was not giving people access to my serum which was true that's how I was doing it before for $5 a month then and I evolved and I realized oh it would be better if I just gave them yeah I take a hit on this but it's better it's easier for me to teach them if I just give them access to all this and let them practice on it and so like it some people do evolved and then same like I I got to be honest with you uh if somebody buys like my expensive stuff that like where I'm automating all their stuff I do also push that they're supposed to learn like uh pre-election and and know and learn how to become social again because part of building a business or a personal brand is being very social like I I'm I understand if you're not an if you're antisocial when you first start working with me like I can work with somebody who's faceless like you because you have a faceless account and that's fine I think that's totally fine but I want people to work towards autonomy and autonomy gives you the power to be able to show yourself so I I really do think that the the like like what I really want to teach you know pre-selection it's only I always say it's 25% of what I teach but it is a big deal and like would you consider that grifting because I have evolved that to the point where uh you know what I'm talking about in that that no I think Natural Evolution from responding to the market responding to what works what doesn't that's that's not that's not grifting per se it's more like um like what Andrew tap goes from watching guys beat off for money to teaching young men how to be free within the span of a year I don't think you can make that kind of evolution naturally I think that's that decision is primarily based off of money right but what's the most expensive package you sell is it um like is it a monthly base is it like a onetime fee what is it yeah monthly like 1,500 to 2,000 depending on like what it is it's because it's it's m it's social media management basically yeah that and that's if you're working under someone you're basically working under someone else's social media logins and accounts right you're doing all the stuff that they're too lazy or unwilling or unskilled to do oh yeah you know you know how much work it is just you doing your posting and you know volume is like the best way to grow so yeah it's just doing all their posting and and getting their volume stuff made yeah I mean look I don't think social media management works so I wouldn't consider that I don't know I wouldn't consider that Consulting I mean it is but yeah I never said Consulting I think you had kind of just said that earlier but not it's definitely not consult like the the $5 a month is where you get free consulting or like if you my school like I'll have a school server soon if people join it that's all free [ __ ] but the bottom line is like it you know how this is when it comes to selling a package for marketing like you can help people for free you know and it's no big deal but sooner or later those people come back to you because they're like I just want to pay somebody to do all this for me like I I have a job I have all this that I'm doing like I only have time to stream I need somebody to manage all the other [ __ ] for me I have the Thousand do a month but I just need somebody to do it all for me you know yeah so the argument there is what's the actual value of the services you provide and I have never hired a social media um manager I think that's the best title to give it I wouldn't I wouldn't hire one for $1,000 a month but then again I wouldn't hire one for $20 a month so I'm not really in the in the customer base that you're seeking I think it's a bit high but again it's like you uh come to me it's just not just posting though I want to make it clear like that's because like they're getting ghost writing they're getting newsletters written they're getting blogs written if that's what is is in their genre they're getting uh Clips made Just Clips alone you know this if to get three Clips made a day like posted a day which ensures growth like you you for th% grow when you do three shorts a day or three reals a day or three uh Tik Tok videos a day that that alone can come out to $500 to $1,000 a month just for that like I have a really good deal on it because I've been doing it with a couple people for over a year now and uh so I get good deals on it and that's how I'm able to offer it to other people like a lot of the [ __ ] that I do I'm a middleman for I found out a youber if I found if I found an online personality that I enjoy was um posting let's say text posts because if you're ghost writing that's what you're writing clipping is you're taking already made content and clipping it out but if I found out someone that wrote a bunch of stuff was using Ghost Riders then I would ass then I would be more willing to call that person who uses that service a grifter it's like oh you're not actually [ __ ] writing any of this you're hiring someone else to write it and using it under your purview your name your identity because if this person who's ghost writing let's say for some history content is just so good at it I'd rather go listen or read his work with his name so I I guess I'd have more issue with a Content producer that uses a lot of ghost writing but clipping everything out you know doing email lists doing newsletters that's I don't really have a problem with that it's just whether or not it's worth it for the person I think I would proba I would probably um have more of an issue with someone who spends $22,000 a month trying to build a personal brand because I'm like what's the deal with that right like I would I would kind of ask if you have $2,000 a month of disposable income what career field are you in what are you doing are you an only fans thought are you an engineer is it is it like some nerdy engineer guy with a lot of money who's trying to build like a like a gim bro personality online cuz he has a dream of making it rich online as a social media personality it's that's an expensive hobby I find that to be a waste of time and money I would I would you know encourage the man to further his career in engineering but you offering a service to clip videos for a price I think is too high that's not crfting yeah it's just because like I like my big thing bro is I really push autonomy I really think that everybody is a slave to the system and I I think that what worked for our parents and our grandparents it's just it's unrealistic to think that we're going to be able to retire with our for1 case unless you're putting $26,000 every month into your savings for the next 20 30 years and most people aren't going to do that so I really I really push autonomy so people don't work into the grave well when it comes to men at least once you're over the age of 7 I think it's 72 the biggest risk factor for dying within a year is quitting their job it's it sounds really weird it's oh I could retire I could hang out all day I can watch Fox News and drink Miller White golf but most men most men who worked a lot their entire life as soon as they get to the point where they have no purpose for some reason I can't explain it they're much more likely to die within a year yeah and I agree you should I'm not saying to retire I'm saying to gain autonomy so like I I agree with you that that that whenever guys stop doing stuff yes you will die but but but the but the goal is is when you gain autonomy it's because you are working every day you are doing stuff but you're working for yourself you took the power back like you if you did have know slave if you did have some like chains on you at least broke them off or you removed some of them yeah I mean I really don't think anybody's going to be free from the system because as long as never totally bro but it's just like it's just taking power dude most people are not spending time with their kids today I really believe in having kids like it's it's something that's very like powerful in my opinion and I think that that whenever you take care of your own kids it's a big deal like that's what's problem today is most kids are not being taken care of by their parents because they're working too much now you started as didn't you start as purple pill podcast was that what it was yeah yeah yeah okay and then you switch to um just splur splur I mean I I still do like like my podcast and I still talk about the exact same things from my podcast that I do now like I've still judge women I'm very big about judging men and women equally all I do is I post relationships because whenever I got into purple pill it was because AMS I'm sure you know who AMS is um he used to talk about somewhat familiar yes alpha male strategies he he would talk about purple pill was just being red pill in a relationship and and I was red pill or I liked red pill and was he like M something wasn't his old name mtow something I have no idea chat has to chat on YouTube has to correct me but he basically did the video where he was said he wasn't doing manosphere stuff manosphere stuff manosphere stuff and it was very clear to me it was like Hey this guy got big on YouTube good for him he got big by pushing manosphere stuff and then he got a striker two and then he was just like I'm dropping it I'm walking away from the man I think that's what it was I'm walking away from the manosphere okay he's walking away from his fan base what made him big because he had money and he didn't have a career outside of YouTube that can compare to YouTube so when I see that that's a sign of weakness that's not like oh I hate you because you walked away from the man sphere no it's I think you we I think you're weak because you can't live the lifestyle you want without YouTube yeah I don't know if that's him like maybe like I think that's him I I'm unsure but there was definitely I'm I'm 80% sure ass black dude who like looks like a like he's like a 64 black guy that's like 45 years old oh that's definitely not him that I think it's a young guy I no but but all purple pill is to me is I just push relationships bro and I believe in like using red pill using dread you know using intersexual Dynamics knowledge to have a good relationship like and I want guys like for me personally I do better in relationship I think most people do better in relationships so I'm that's what I push is mostly that like I know marriage is unrealistic but I think that you can have a relationship in your frame it's just when you go down on one knee I kind of disagree yeah I think let me think here most of the men I know that I would trust like if I was put in a situation where I had to solve a problem at work something with some deep science the men I would trust the most are the ones without a partner to work hard and get it done because not it really everything depends on the man you can have a dude in a relationship who can feel inspired because he has a wife wife or girlfriend a family kids whatever but most of the single men I know in their mid to late 20s that are the the smartest individuals when it comes to the field of science when they get home yeah they'll game yeah they'll left but along their free time they're working on their career they're very career focused whereas a lot of the guys with the girlfriends are such they got to go to brunch they got to they got to entertain their woman you're basically acting like a a constant gesture to keep a woman entertained to keep her around so you can get puni every now and then um I've never heard the purple pill defined as pushing for relationships but then again the purple pill is like I said he's the only guy who ever said that and I was new to the red pill space and like I just liked him because he was one of the few guys I agreed with yeah it's definitely not something everybody says I agree that probably everybody thinks purple pill is like in between red and blue like I totally get that and like I'm not trying to there's red pill dudes that still date chicks there's red pill dudes I mean Ro tamasi calls himself god of the red pill he's married for 20 years yeah it's just most of them don't really talk about a lot of people are mostly pickup artists in red pill and they kind of preach Pua game and spinning plates yeah and the people and the people who say or who um capture an audience based off of hey you do this this and this you're going to get a bunch of um women with high high body counts that bar and to sleep with you that to me that's equivalent to like a crackhead behind a 7-Eleven saying if you listen to me I'll teach you how to get the best crack rock in Detroit it's it's it's meaningless you know having sex with a bunch of low value women that's a meaningless purpose if that's someone's purpose if that's a man's purpose he's an he's basically an animal to me it's like okay so if I pluged you into a simulation and you got to have sex with all of wom you dreamed of would you be happy with that experience would that be a happy life for you and they say yeah it's like well you're just you're a very simple animal at that point so the guys who make their money off of telling dudes this is the game this is how you pick up pick up pickup roaches basically John Anthony lifestyle Anthony dream Johnson uh Mr locario there's a [ __ ] ton of them they are pathetic to me um I can't stand them because they're basically taking young men's sexual drive young men's you know being uncomfortable with the current feminist system and they're pouring all that energy into work as hard as possible do this this and this get jacked I'm not saying that's bad but for the purpose of having sex with a fat white woman it's like come on man that's it that's the purpose so this is where me and you come together and we're in very much agreeance but this is where but but now I can show where the Divide is where me and you might separate though cuz I think there is a superior strategy like and I talk about it all the time now but you I think would have like what is your solution to that instead of being a Pua what's your binary like what's your other choice so I think when it comes to giving men advice about their life right it really comes down to do you want kids what do you want out of life right I'm not one I'll have an Insel on the show and unless it gets into like ad hominins like them saying you're just actually an inso you what I don't really care what a man's body count is I don't give a [ __ ] like I won't judge a man differently if he's a virgin vers if he has a body count of One Versus if he's a Manor now if he's a man [ __ ] I would say use protection but that's about it if the man came to me he's like hey chronic I really want to slay some [ __ ] I'm going into freshman year of college next year what do I need to do to be sexually successful in college I'd give him a lot of advice everybody can basically agree on you go to the gym you need you're probably going to have to go on a severe calorie deficit until you get a six-pack because in America at least we're fighting against a corporatized globalized food um food uh food supply that will give you hormones to make you fat so if you eat 100 or a th000 calories 1,200 calories of that same kind of slop you'll still get a six-pack you just got to eat much less that's what they got to do to get sexually successful in college if I get another guy coming hey chronic I really want a wife I really want kids I more lean to the passport bro side of things or the no himman no diamond kind of things like you better you you better make sure she's a virgin because pretty much everybody in the manosphere um side of things can agree divorce should be avoided you don't want to get divorced right but if a guy says Hey I just want kids I don't want to give a woman a chance you know if you marry a virgin in the US she still has an 18% chance of divorcing you that's too high I go okay then you need to really work again in the gym do for yourself but you need to really work on your money so you can pay a surrogate 50k to give you a kid so my advice to men it just depends on what they want and you know you ask 10 16 year old boys what they want out of life they're probably going to lean more to spending plates but most of them are going to change your money mind it really depends on their culture if their fathers are in their life so I don't there's there's no one all solution for men I would say the general advice like don't get married is probably better for the majority of men but if a guy comes up to me I mean I had a guy calling he's like yo kronic I have this girlfriend for two years she loves me I love her I trust her I met her in church but she has a body count of four right I go well if she has a body count of four that is is let's see here I think that's a 57% chance of divorcing you for me that's too much risk but if you're informed and you want to make that choice you have a 43% chance of not getting divorced it's your life bro I wish you the best luck in the world that's so the ADV I don't really give blanket advice besides going to the gym not voting for Democrats to most men but what it really is very dependent on people's lives because people will have different uh risk thresholds right some people are very adverse to risk they want to live a safe reliable stable life other people are going to risk it for the biscuit like I I'm in love with porn star I want to marry her I call that guy a cuck don't do it why but as long as they informed that's the best I can do I'm just on social media so I guess that's my uh long winded answer to your question yeah no that I I guess I I get your position so do you consider yourself mtow or black pill or red pill or just man or Fe I mean when when it comes to blackpill at least there's blackpill as an ideology and then there blackpill as an adjective right so I'm not blackpill ideology I am blackpilled on certain things like the future of the US I'm blackpilled right like I don't see a way out of it on the future of white Western women I'm pretty much blackpilled I don't see how they're ever going to improve unless it's by the sword which goes back to the US collapsing when it comes to black people ideology they're saying [ __ ] like if you're 5'4 no woman will ever love you I'm like well that's [ __ ] have seen dudes who are 5 foot2 get a wife and have five kids and are very happy in their marriage so I'm not black p ideology I think the most Fair term for me because it's pretty Broad and it encompasses a lot of view points is probably just red pilled now the red pill has been taken over by pickup roaches but you know someone from the outside looking at me they probably say red pilled now I get called mtow from haters and my friends depends on their definition of it but for me mtow is no wife no kids no cohabitation I've dated girlfriends my last girlfriend I think I had was like I don't know half a year ago never had a wife and I am planning to have kids just not with a in a relationship right now but there's like a 1% that's open to having kids with a woman just depends on the woman would do do you think that there's any room for there to be a superior strategy like like like I I think that a lot of people ignore that there might be something that's just best that's like if there was something that you put your time and effort into like it works pretty well do you like do you see that there is anything like that or not really I think the most basic strategy most men including blue pillars could adopt to be more sexually successful is getting physically fit right but to fix the problems of feminism to I know just not get divorce because Chad gets divorced every year it's it really comes down to what are you willing to risk right the blue pillars will say the family courts aren't biased everybody knows it's biased my what I'll say is what are you willing to risk or what are you willing to gain to risk going into the family courts so I mean it's kind of comes to your business right when it comes to like what is is there one kind of generalized strategy that works for everybody there's probably a couple like Bland stuff like as you said posting every day you know volume that works for pretty much everybody but if we're talking about like a gym influencer vers like a a fishing influencer you got to look at when you know people who fish are online they're not going to be online on a Saturday afternoon they're fishing they might be online Monday Tuesday Wednesday from like 6:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. when they get home from work but that's not the same as a gym influencer because that they're you know the gym heads are in the gym all weekend so it kind of it's is a similar kind of thread but once you get into specifics the advice will change okay well I just I guess where like my like my big beef is is that I think everybody does just inferior strategies like I I I think everything you said is true I just think it's all very surface level like I think that there's another layer to the game and most people are sleeping on it like it's and I'm talking about Social Circle Game and like using pre- selection and I think that most people are just not social today and like everything that you said is great for the average man because the average man doesn't have a social life today like they live online or they they play video games or they just do things that kind of in my opinion cuck them um and uh we just live during a time that they need people like you to give the advice like you give but they also need guys like me that are G to make them into SEAL Team Six well like the the the Trident I say is if you want to get better with women and this will help you out in general life is they care about three things your physical body your monetary resources and your Social Status social status is is split into two parts it's what groups do you associate with and how good are your social skills so I usually say up your social skills because you could be jacked and rich or wealthy and on a first date if you're P if you're pure autistic and you can't catch hints you can't do any of that you're yeah me you're GNA fail on a lot of dates you're not going to get what you want but when it comes to social groups at least in the US most Western Country I I'm going to talk about the us because that's my most experiences here once you get out of college if you move a lot of people move for college they move States for jobs Social Circles quite quickly break apart and unless you're joining like a running club a CrossFit club like U some kind of intermural sport activity a lot of those are the the Bedrock of the social groups today and there's not a lot of them around because most people in the US are just straight up isolated they go to work they go home they go to the gym they don't talk to anybody they not in any groups and so I used to I still kind of say you know go to a church if you go to if you're a Christian uh you move to a new town go to a church you'll make a group of friends and let say you don't get any girls that go to that church that's still going to help you out being able to ask a girl say hey I go to barbecue I'm going to on Saturday do you want to be my date to it that's much more appealing for the girl than hey do you want to go get coffee for the fifth time alone just me and you so I think the social status is kind of it's becoming more diff difficult to obtain just by the degradation of American culture and I'm sure I'm not sure if you've seen the studies but um there's been tons of uh sociological psychological studies psychological studies on how Americans are becoming more lonely but I got to go take a I got to go take a break to go to the bathroom and get some more drinks but um Chaz how about you respond to what I said and I I'll jump in the conversation when I get back in two minutes okay I mean I'm not going to lie I was kind of a goes in and out so I mean when it comes to socializing yeah it's hard could be a bit of a [ __ ] sometimes I mean I know that from personal experience that I can't tell you guys how many times I've said like the dumbest thing ever in a conversation it just immed immediately derails it ruins the vibe that kind of [ __ ] but as I've gotten older as I've gotten more experience with it it's gotten easier right it's just for some people they have to actually think about what they have to say right it's like uh you know when a guy is going to the gym he's been going to the gym for three years he has to put no thought and effort into what he's going to do that day he just knows oh I'm gonna do a bench press set whatever but then someone that's new to it has to think okay should I do bench should I do this th this this this and this but as you get you know more used to something as you get you know as you get more used to doing a thing again and again and again you have to put less thought into doing it right and that's how it is for me and talking with people I know it sounds it just reps in the game bro you're exactly right it's it just reps in the game soone Chad says did Chad say it's gotten easier to stay say stupid [ __ ] 100% there are so many times in a conversation where I know the exact dumbest thing to say but it's when you say it that's important right like if you're talking to a chick and you immediately come out with damn you got nice tits if that's the first thing you say uh you know that's not very good but if you're talking getting a little flirty right then eventually somewhere in there you might be able to slip that in it's all a matter of timing and that's something I the biggest reason that guys fail with just regular conversations is most guys especially intelligent guys they have this problem with overanalyzing or thinking that everybody else sees the world from like a very like scientific point of view like don't get me wrong I would love to have a conversation about how we're just hairless [ __ ] murdering Apes that are spinning on a [ __ ] rock around the solar system but like not everybody wants to talk about that like especially when you first meet them like learning how to small talk just like hey bro what's up how's you know oh this weather's [ __ ] shitty you know like learning how to have a regular conversation like that is actually hard for very intellectual guys and on and I completely understand that right so for me I like my [ __ ] I like Dragon Ball I like gaming this this and this but not everybody likes that stuff so being able to understand where conversation is Flowing what do they like what can they relate to can you find some common Middle Ground you know and for some people that middle ground is impossible to find like they'll just keep going on and on and on about the [ __ ] they care about without ever thinking about you know people people initially try to relate to themselves with other people so you know if you're a smart guy you'll kind of give the benefit of the doubt and assume people you're talking to are smart and they'll be interested in higher level topics than you but once you understand at least for me once I understood that what does this woman want to talk about drama pretty much pretty much it you know if you you could talk about stuff but you you have to weave what they're interested into it right so I could talk about this Survival game with my girlfriend at the time and I would be like would I focus on the mechanics of the numbers no I would be like this Game Dev is a dumbass he hates us right and then bam I hit the drama thing she be like oh my God I agree blah blah and she just go off right you got to know how to lead the questions so and another thing is if you just repeat whoever you're talking to like let's say you're talking to let's say let's say Sergio was talking to me and after a couple minutes of listening to me he just said yeah I totally think no himman no Diamond's the way instantly I'm just I become more partial to him I'm like yeah [ __ ] yeah bro you're right you're not that bad you're not a grifter hell yeah you just tell people what you know they believe and they'll they'll think highly of youon just meets the [ __ ] pretty much I wanted to ask what do you think about indirect game I'm very big about indirect I don't believe in being direct at all like I'm very big about not [ __ ] pursuing and pedestalize the [ __ ] and chasing it no triple Tex thing no double texting no no like Pursuit pursuing like to to ensure you only get genuine desire and a girl chasing you basically so I guess indirect is being kind of koi about it making her weight it's not even koi because you naturally just start having an abundance that you don't give a [ __ ] like the biggest thing is to just not give a [ __ ] like see every that's a big sticking point right when you have abundance you you can afford to do that but for dudes who are go on their fifth date of their life when they're 24 it's hard for them to you know this is the girl they've been fantasizing about every night for the last week it's probably a little bit harder for them to act like that it depends on what you want right in my experience high value women who make good partners respond well to being direct right and if it it now if I'm just trying to get a hookup every now and then I'll treat a [ __ ] like like [ __ ] because I don't I actually don't care because the only thing she can give me is something a lot of women can give me if I'm thinking there's a future with a chick I'll be very direct about everything double taex you don't think that's the Madonna hor complex talking a little bit right there because even that that girl that you think is a high Valu girl she she was still bent over backwards like a [ __ ] by another dude like no no no you're getting me wrong the high value women I'm talking about are virgins they're not you know they don't go to college they don't drink they're um no I just don't think any women are like I think all women are the I don't see because I'm scared like I don't believe in doing that because it creates the Madonna hor complex and you P you instantly pedestalize and treat that girl different and I don't well that's if you treat the same woman like Madonna and a [ __ ] right no like no you're you're like treating that girl like Madonna if you're if you're pedestalize her and you're thinking that she's high value and that she's not like the other girls it's more like I'm more willing to be very direct like hey are we going to are we gonna am i g to pick you up with a fair on Saturday we she already said yes during the last date it's like Friday I haven't she hasn't texted me back and I D text hey am I still picking you up tomorrow she doesn't answer I delete I block her contact right so I'm not it's not a pesing it's she's worth getting over the being awkward for a double text I don't [ __ ] care I really don't care but if she doesn't respond oh she's block I don't care I I literally don't care I'll go take some like Floy to the to the fair feel like I would wait for that girl to like you know show interest in want like I would invite her to do those things and if she comes cool but I would never show emotion about about it because I'll [ __ ] her friends like I'll just make sure that I end up [ __ ] one of her hot friends to yeah I don't really I don't date women in the same social group um now if it's like I'm taking some th to the club yeah I'll I'll I'll kind of have that viewpoint but for a chick I think there's actually worth spending money on I'll be direct with her because I want to directly know if I'm wasting my time or not but but but would you agree that like sometimes women like the guys that that they pursue more like they have more genu desire for that or or or do you think that they're just a [ __ ] because of that because they're they're pursuing the guy no no I I mean the way women pursue guys is very dependent on what their experience is so I've had chicks like basically you know give me testicular contusions in the club because you just walk up and squeeze my sack so hard but when it comes to like a shy virgin girl the way she pursues hard is on Thanksgiving she text she like happy turkey day like out of the blue that's her pursuing you but like a slute is going to basically like you know start grabbing your slong in public so it really is dependent on what she's done who she is so I don't think a woman pursuing a guy makes her a slore I do agree with you though if she is pursuing you she's she's actually into you and keeping her in that mindset is beneficial but it comes to the fact it's like you know are you looking for a girl that you're potentially going to have kids with are you going to have to play this game where you got to make her think she you're cheating on her the entire time it's like I hear Mar guys being like I paid a woman to complement me and run my bicep in front of my wife and now she's been having sex with me for the first time in 10 years I don't want to deal with that [ __ ] that sounds exhausting so I see your point though there there is a there is a method to the madness but it it goes back to the same thing what do you want out of a woman yeah and I just think even for a long term I think that that you want the girl that's the genuine desire at the end of the day yeah it's just that desire kind of comes across differently for different girls um same thing with a guy I mean some guys genuine desire is um when they act on it it's illegal shout out to all my uh all my Shia Bros in Germany doing illegal things because they genuinely desire children but that's another topic but uh Hey link do have any other people who might be haters in the chat yeah so we got um Uncle Tom common senseable I don't know if y'all want to ask Undead chronic anything um oh if anybody else in the in the uh listeners want to come up and speak and ask Undead Chic anything put at 100 react with the 100 if you have a disagreement with me because I'm fine talking with Ser here for a little bit longer but if we have other people we got to get to them yeah no I was just going to say that uh I think that's a new phenomenon where you're you know a bunch of wait hold hold that hold that thought real quick y hey Ser I'm happy we had a reasonable conversation this time thanks for uh joining the spaceman yeah no problem I I wasn't going to Spur this time no it's fine it's fine hey peace man and serge you can jump back in too I think um okay Uncle Tom repeat right go from the start your big you got the floor so yeah yeah sure I think that uh this is actually a new phenomenon where you know a bunch of men who are really good in uh Science and Tech and all that that are single um that's kind of a new phenomenon so I just wanted to kind of point that out um like typically people were married and all that and so so this younger this younger crowd these younger men doing this uh are you know essentially like crashing out too so they're capable of crashing out DUI or just whatever not showing up to work not showing up to work and they're very capable of that I mean I'm I'm biased to more more white collar men because I'm white collar and I don't really um I don't really work a lot of dudes without geds or Bachelors or I get it but they so they crash out the hardest some of them the white collar folks so cuz they can't they can afford to and then they can bounce right back cuz they know they got to you know the cash flow and stuff but um the other thing about grifting I would just say you guys you and uh Serge were just kind of going back and forth I think that um the main thing there is like is the person a subject matter expert that's the thing and so and and if they're not a subject matter expert then how much how close to that do they need to be uh so that's that's the other and so I think it's almost easier to be a grifter if here just like on Tik Tok or YouTube or yeah now we have some now now you fall under media of course but like are like are you is it journalism is it yeah so you know there's so much weird stuff out there it's really grifting yeah so it's almost like you're more likely to be a grifter than Serge would be but there's the qualifier there subject matter expert so this the first time I'm meeting you no it's fine no I mean people who don't know [ __ ] that talk about [ __ ] as if they know it that's definitely grifting but when it comes to like the fall of the West do you need to be historian do you need to know about the fertility rate do you need to just read articles do you got to be politically Savvy like it's much more broad when it comes to that now when I see a guy like Andrew Tate who is getting like three concussions a week and then watching dudes jack off and then suddenly he cares about the West well at the same time talking about white men's penises I just think he's a grifter I just you know I just I don't believe he has anything honest or useful to say he's his the attention on him is useful but imagine if Andrew Tate was replaced with hammerand with the attention he was getting imagine he's replaced with Chaz or me or any body else who isn't you know down to watch guys beat off for money so people say Andrew Tate's good because he brings attention to the problem what problem what is he saying he is bringing he's bringing like you know biology 101 like I'm going to teach you guys modern medicine how well let's talk about what a cell wall is made out of oh give me a [ __ ] break we're you know 16y olds 15 year olds have a better understanding of what's going on than what Andrew Tate says so him being a grifter is more about him just chasing the money as opposed to not being an expert he's not an expert but there's some people who I mean most people get called grifter talk about politics and video games so like you know there's not like an expert uh verification for that it's just are you a gamer do you actually what what are your sources like who do you like what social media sites who do you follow who you listen to what stories you read that's kind of more the the basis of political social opinions and oh I got a degree at Yale if someone came to me with a degree at Yale in some kind of Sociology studies I don't care what their beliefs are I already know what they are I already know what they are anyhow Uncle Tom do you have any disagreements or concerns or anything like that yeah but no I I just wanted to say you know like really quick for Andrew tap thing like he provides real value like I've hired kids that like work or or did Hustler's University and learned copywriting and learned video editing and I've hired them and they've made money off of me monthly so I really do think that he provided a real value if other if people made money off of what and not everybody is successful that tries to do that stuff so I like I think it's I don't know it just depends like he does give value in a way though well it's like value like how do those kids make their money what were they doing cop copyrighting and video editing okay and and and like if Hustler University different did Hustler University teach them how to copyright and clip videos did it teach them how to do it yeah yeah yeah like there's videos that teach them how to do everything okay yeah so they probably paid what couple hundred bucks a month for a couple months to learn cop it's $50 it's $50 a month okay they they paid too much with something they could learn for free so like did it provide value yes now imagine you're trying to cross the sidewalk and I'm staying there with like a I don't know a [ __ ] uh Viking axe you know like a battle axe and I'm like you can only cross a sidewalk if you pay me 20 bucks and you pay me 20 bucks and cross the sidewalk well I provided value technically you know you paid me money to use a sidewalk you you got a product quote unquote out of it but you didn't need to pay me but like if it was all organized and easy for them and there's like it comes with coaches where like guys could they could answer questions if they got stuck like these guys don't ever get suck on problems and they all tell each other how the algorithm is changing all the time like it's a whole Community for it so I think $50 a month for that value isn't that bad at all and I actually do support his husters un I don't support any of his other [ __ ] but I support husters University yeah if you I mean if you need someone to at some point in education they stop handholding right so like maybe some point in college it's like I don't understand why does this Gene do this you're the response from your teacher your professor your box your doctor is look it up the handholding stuff I find that to you know yeah you're teaching them a skill the skill of doing copyrighting stuff but you're not really teaching the skill of how to work for it right the the biggest skill you'll learn in PhD school or medical school is how to teach yourself how to learn that's much more useful than how to treat heart disease is how to learn how do you teach yourself when no one's around to hold your hand so I'm still on the on the on the opinion that you know I hope I I hope and T goes to jail I hope he get becomes bottom G and I hope he dreams his Bugatti as big Tyrone opens up his colon every night I there's not a single thing he does I support but I can understand your Viewpoint at least is there anybody else who Twitter space that uh wants that has a a disagreement with me just do the 100 again I have a question but I I don't know if it's my Jamie what's up Jamie yes um I just want to know the this how do you distinguish between who's a grifter or not since both you and Tate are providing information to improve men's lives right so what's the difference what makes him or grifter what makes you not a grifter yeah I provide it for free I'm talking about the information if he didn't have I don't charge I don't charge my information Andre T does okay so if if he didn't have this University he wouldn't be a grither if he didn't well first of all if he didn't pretend to be a dude watching guys jack off he wouldn't be a gri that's the first thing that was before he got famous yeah I know that that part is the gay part I'm just saying like Okay if the the whole husters university it's teaching men how to make money online by having them pay 50 bucks a month to I joined I was 18 in 2020 I joined yeah it's like I'm going to teach you how to make money online and for stuff you can find for free online I'm going to charge you 50 bucks and I have other people who are in the teaching position of husters University because they're a fan of me that's I've learned I've learned a few things that I left you know when I learned about copyrighting a little bit of video anything I left already but I mean does it make them a grifter like just by giving that course away I mean it was helpful because it um synthesizes all the information puts the right links in the right places it makes easier for you to to instead of searching for you it makes it easier for you to search for I gu I guarantee you there's probably hundreds of other businesses and companies that do the same thing for cheaper that do it better I guarantee you oh yeah I mean that's like every every this a sandwich it's popular I'm sure there's bare sandwiches out there to buy but I mean you know that doesn't make it like a criminal how is take but do you take donations UND in your bio yeah I take donations from people who enjoy the content I mean that's similar to them right no you get you get all the content fre it's not it's not similar at all because you can hear everything I'm saying right now and not never donate right no but Tate doesn't charge for his like monologue no he charges for he charges for husters University yeah but and this is my question if it wasn't for husters University and just him doing his top G [ __ ] talking about masculinity and stuff would he still be a gri if he did like a p with secret videos that you had to pay to see depends on what he's saying I think Andrew Tate Andrew Tate is a mystery mut inbred [ __ ] that has nothing [ __ ] useful to say and he just repeats what other people say so if anybody pays or hear his [ __ ] slop coming out of his mouth I think other people say we're not Reinventing the wheel here no no no no what I'm saying is you guys invented the wheel what's up so I'm we're not Reinventing the wheel here everybody regurgitates where from others it embellishes them for other purposes no no no you're wrong no you're completely wrong there I'm asking you a question what have you guys invented that's so awesome that you guys are so original when you say when you say when you say inv anybody it's an honest question no no no I'm trying to I'm trying to CL hey I'm trying to clarify the question so it's easier to answer so we don't have a misunder understanding you don't this is my question what do you mean you're going to clarify the question is the sky blue hey is the sky blue listen no is the sky answer my question is the sky blue no no no no answer the question bro is the sky blue yes it's blue not at night hey not at night you see why clarifying the question is useful you see you see why clarifying the question is actually [ __ ] useful see do do you understand why clarifying a question is actually useful now artist logic r no no no what do you mean artist logic it's called clarifying a question dumbass this this dude doesn't even no no you you got sky is always blue oh I don't need any question question okay ask your ask your stupid question bro hey ask your stupid question man here's the thing here no no no ask your stupid question go ahead and ask it bro go ahead and ask it here's the thing the value is what someone will pay for no wait let me hear Let me hear Jamie here ask your ask your question that you refuse to clarify don't your go no no no no ask your question clarification your inter young man are you going let me speak or not you no no no no I'm going rep this question is water wet go ahead go ahead when when I say the sun bro no it's not wet because I'm wead bro no no no no ask your question bro hey ask your question ask ask your question man bro L If he if he keeps on just being a [ __ ] just ban him here or just nobody's gonna ban me bro you're you're you're a Call of Duty education can you can you ask your question dumbass or are you going to keep I asked your question you could even answer mine you just reframed mine everybody saw it no no I there's a question there is a difference Hey listen there is a difference between rephrasing and clarifying you understand that right what's your what's your name you guys know me bro you guys know it's your last it's your last chance it's your last chance hold hold shut the [ __ ] up Jamie so just just answer his question and then he'll answer no he used to answer mine first ask him a question first then I answer his he already asked about the sky and he's like no it's dark outside HH I got you the idea that wait so so obviously we're talking to someone who doesn't first I already answered yours for your go what is your question Jamie what is your question question bro hey ask you first right what have you invented that's so awesome that you didn't regurgitate because you're saying oh he's just saying things that other people said so if you invented the wheel what wheel did you invent buddy because you're saying nothing original what was original about you buddy ovarian aging and hypergamy which are words you don't understand [ __ ] I don't give a [ __ ] you don't you don't give a [ __ ] because you don't understand it it's like it's like why a chimpanzee doesn't give a [ __ ] about the diesel engine cuz he doesn't understand it from the he hypergamy okay well done what else did you invent what else did I invent like what did I talk about H what else did I bring up well I probably brought the fact up that Jack Murphy was a cuckold that Andrew Tate is a [ __ ] and that non-english speakers that don't understand clarification of questions are stupid bro you just did a GOA that got that that's so stupid well no you you you refused you refused clarification you refused get rid of link get rid of him bro get BR you're 40 and you do this even SP your get rid this [ __ ] bro get rid of him bro I can't I can't take dumb Spanish speakers that don't know English anymore can't do it Link Link I'm gonna shut up bro your your boy is dumb bro you you do not understand the English language bro Jimmy chill chill brother chill yo link one second if if I don't understand English how come I want so many debates in you do not understand the point of a clarifying question stupid [ __ ] you do not understand clarifying questions link hey bro link you got link you got to mute him now you got to get take him out of the speaker bro come on man no I'm I'm I'm quiet I can be quiet don't worry I'm I'm I'm gonna bounce if you don't don't cry buddy take take a speaker away bro I don't talk to on my I don't talk to Third World retards I can't speak English I just can't I just can't Jesus link what took you so long n it's just that you know me and you're cool I know you're cool I know you're cool but for this it's not you being a [ __ ] it's me being a [ __ ] so you guys would be cool but when you ask a question first of all let me let me explain this isn't even English this is basic conversation when you ask a question that takes a paragraph there's going to be clarifying questions so when I asked you if the sky was blue and you said it was blue and I said no it's not it's night see the clarifying question would be what time of day it is you see it's so simple Le it's such a low [ __ ] bar to jump but you're coming to the standpoint of I want to suck Andrew Tate's little mongalo dick you could not even listen to reason for me so it was that was a [ __ ] test right it was a [ __ ] test so you failed the [ __ ] test a seventh grader would have passed so that's why I was like it's not worth talking to you bro it's just not at that point you be like unless you invented a new formula you're just the same as Andrew Tate okay bro enjoy Hustler University [ __ ] enjoy paying 50 bucks to have a have a gay dude tell you how to be a man I just okay have fun have fun with it bro straight up I I hope you know what you should join the super hustle University you should take a loan out sell your grandmother's [ __ ] alpaca okay make 2,000 give Andrew Tay all your money because if you don't understand the point of a clarifying question you are simply too stupid to converse with on the level you were attempting to do so well we had one good hater what's up Chaz how you doing I'm fine sipping on the me I can't believe it bro oh well actually I can I okay like it was just a simple like hey what exact like he's saying inventing the wheel right inventing the wheel that's like such a big statement right people don't need to reinvent the wheel to like talk talk about [ __ ] right he trying to make it sound like you have to invent something new with everything you say to have a point your point is that Andrew Tate pay walls a lot of his [ __ ] and a lot of the [ __ ] that he pay walls can be found for free you know and when brings up oh what about your donations everything you say is for free it's just the people that want to give extras there same for me here's what I think the big disagreement was he was trying to say what new things not even new things what have you invented and I was trying to decipher what does invent mean does it mean what new phrases I've said new Ling lingual I said gigachad I mean that's mine something that would you be would you be like all right if I bring him up one more time and so he can try to clarify what he's trying to say no I mean honestly no because he's just gonna he's I don't want to say this I don't want to say this because it sounds like I'm like sping but like he's straight up a nobody that's getting emotional over Andrew Tate give me a kind of strong maning his position though because like all he's saying is that like if Tate is a grifter because he's just taking free stuff online and then regurgitating it you know and selling it to people uh like you you do make money off of donations and like so so you do make money off this and you are regurgitating stuff because you didn't re invent anything like and if you did please let me know like I'm not I'm not big in R face like if you were the starter of something like you can let me know no no no it's fine I understand that point so Andrew Tate saw what was popular and said the words without believing it right if Andrew Tate believed any of the red pill philosophy you know what he wouldn't do he wouldn't run a wh house in Romania he would why do you think but but the red pill isn't a prescription so why do you think that it would be based like why would you say that well if the red pill teaches that promiscuous women are dangerous and someone says they're red pilled and their workers are all hookers come on now that doesn't track no no but that's a prescription bro red pill isn't a prescription it's just a prox theology you're just I'm I'm going to let Jamie up one more time I got to go take a wait I got to go take a piss so let him in let him get his emotions out let him think about Andrew Tate Jack off and I'll be back in a minute okay okay Jamie you're back up as Speaker does everybody agree with me though that like just like how there's a grift for for liking somebody there can be a grift for disliking somebody like just like how crayon and everybody attacks Andrew Tate and they have 10,000 followers because they're just attacking Andrew Tate all day like there's definitely people that can grift off of just like the anti whatever and like it's it's there's there's always going to be people who who will jump on those trains either or like whether you're a support or like some people might be like oh yeah I like Splurge because he supports Andrew Tay and there might be some people that are like no I like link because link doesn't like Andrew Tay you know hey link I just want to jump in when he gets back real quick I just think you got to be genuine in whatever you're supporting if you genuinely support somebody because that's who you really support then that's not like that's not a Griff sorry Jamie you can go ahead bro I don't think Undead back though if you wanted to hold what you're saying until he's back no it's fine no I just wanted to clarify I'm not a tate fan guys I wasn't an anti- Tate space saying that what he did talking to women from behind from behind the keyboard was gay I'm not Andrew Tate fan I left husters University after 3 months you guys are traing everything I said I'm not a tate fan guys ask how about how about we do this can I ask a question can I complete what I'm saying guys you hold on hold on Jamie hold on hold on Jamie how how about we speak in a convers instead of you speaking for like two paragraphs with one question because you'll say a bunch of [ __ ] and I need clarification and you'll refuse to give it how about that I just said Tate I'm not a tate fan so you said that's wrong already but I'm I'm wrong made a mistake there and fan that's cool you just assumed that oh yeah well you were getting very uh you were getting very emotional in your defense of Andrew T so I assumed you no I just assumed you were an Andrew tape fan that's why that's okay you're not an and so real quick hi May hi May real quick so the value for something is what somebody will pay for it ultimately so like pay aside and all that um so I just want to put that out I mean you did say earlier well there's no handholding um after a certain point well some people don't even realize that until you educate them on that so it's not so your perspective you know there matters but uh that is really all I wanted to add there and you know maybe we can even take a break yeah hold on maybe we can even take a break uh Undead and go to your chat too like your chat looks like it's blowing up too no I'm just chilling bro all I'm saying is that this is what I said because I heard you saying that he's a grifter because he's regurgitating words from other creators okay done but isn't that what every Creator does and just embellishes the words different from others what is his lifestyle what is his actions vers words women women will say anything what are their actions same thing for the grifters andw Tate says single mothers are bad Andre tapate flies in single mothers to have sex with in his little condo in Romania you think he really think single mothers are bad if he flies them in to bang him yeah to bang him not to wipe them up but he's still associating with them if youy I won't even go on a date with a single mother I refuse yeah that's you I'm just saying people like go out the red pill thing is that that you don't wife up a single mother have sex with single mother the red pill thing is you don't associate going to business with hoes Andrew take hold on the red pill thing isn't like a [ __ ] prescription why do we keep saying it's a prescription I'm so confused would you just have sex with a single mother or would you or just sex is that fny it but that's not red pill like red pill would say that single mothers are bad but that's not it's not telling you to just different opinions nobody's a grifter except not you think the red the grifting comes from the prescriptions bro everybody do you think the red pill do you think the red pill thinks you should let women have access to your money no doesn't say what I think the red pill tells you what can happen how about liability so so it's like I know there's crocodiles in the Nile I'm red pilled I know there's crocodiles in there I have a channel talking about how men shouldn't swim in the Nile and then I get caught in the Nile with a crocodile biting on my dick am I red pill no no I'm a hypocrite I don't follow my own advice I'm a dumbass I'm a grifter that's what I every doct every doctor that smokes is a grifter yes if if a doctor who smokes tells you you shouldn't smoke that's some it's [ __ ] it does not it's not as effective as a doctor the medicine that smoking is harmful doesn't mean anything because the doctor that said that smokes is it smokes it's still the doesn't mean [ __ ] from the Doctor Who smes it's still the truth when Andrew Tate says don't marry a single mother that's still true but you're hearing it from someone who's just you who's just saying it to take your money how no no we're not talking about Hustler University we're talking about just the courses you're not taking your money by putting YouTube videos you're going back to the money again what do you think wait wait do wait you realize that getting millions of views on YouTube gives you money right yeah but he's not getting that right now he's not getting that from there from hisses now but he was he wasn't making that much on YouTube whatever he was whatever he was making whatever he he was making it because he was lying about what he believed but no I think he did believe he believed all that about women he believes in multiple wives he believes in [ __ ] being a pimp what do you mean exactly like he he he he truly made [ __ ] even content on how to become a pimp like he I think that's not grifting I think he's being pretty honest Jamie Sergio but both of y'all don't like Andrew Tate so why why defend him right now no I'm not defending him I'm just saying I'm just put you are you are straight up defending him don't lie about it I'm not defending him per se I'm talking about every creator that you guys think is grifting because I want wouldn't you wait hold on wouldn't you say that a guy who you know Jamie I know you don't like Andrew Tate why you def defending him bro bro I'm not defending him bro listen I'm not defending you are arguing against me attacking Andrew Tate it could be another creator that is Def then use another Creator bro use another Creator I don't know these creators I don't watch you're only going to defend and so you're only let's use myON my why is my a grifter oh because he works with the [ __ ] feds he was a fed he's not fed anymore that was his let me let me educate let me let me educate you on something bro let me educate something being a Fed is like being a murderer once you do it you're that forever murderer gets out of jail 30 years later is he still a murderer so an FBI agent is a murderer no he's always FBI agent he was oh my God no hold that security but it was an example it was an example let me let me let me explain this slower let me let me explain this much more slowly yeah I'm asking a question no no no let me no let me exp you're no he's not because you don't understand what I said let me explain it again so if someone kills someone 30 years ago and they get out of jail are they still considered a murderer yes yes yes if someone was in the feds 10 years ago I consider them the feds that's why I said once you're a Fed you're always a Fed once you're a murderer you're always a murderer you don't leave the feds but you're say like it's a bad thing that he was a Fed do you you like feds I think you underestimate how many field agents are like extr wa do you think being a Fed is a good thing or neutral thing what do you think about being I'm not sure I'm sure they're good FS I'm sure they're bad feds they're all bad okay do you think there were do you think there were good people who uh worked for mustache man what was that for what for good old boy no no I mean probably good people yeah that were forced to who were forced to okay I'm dead right about regular police officers I don't like them either no don't like them oh your aab um no aab is too [ __ ] weak I'm abolish of police they say defund I I know where you're getting to go ahead with the questioning again because I know where you're getting to with Hitler no no no I I I don't like any feds you you you're the opinion that you know it's they they're doing a job maybe um they's some good feds you know they're they're good people but they're still working for a satanic corrupt system so I don't consider them good because they're willing to do that but he doesn't work that sounds hypocritical right there though as soon as something happens you're you're picking up the phone calling the feds no I'm not oh no I'm not oh I'm praying to God that nobody calls a feds on my response that's what I'm praying nobody calls a cops when I got to take care of myself the reason I can't defend myself is got to go worry about some white man with a badge so no that's that's no you got me completely wrong there bro no police offense okay got it well in this system with with this government in the US yeah yeah I don't want any cuz they don't really enforce they don't enforce what I want enforced I disagree with the government so yeah I don't like them take away their guns make them all social workers to help me out so who's going to put be who are going to call who are we going to call if something happens I'm going to be shooting bro I'm not calling anybody what are you talking about I'm not I'm not calling someone to save my ass I'm not I'm not a princess in a castle guys with AKs go to your house like and you have an AK yourself would be able to win against 100 guys with AKs so they're going to be spraying automatic fire against a cement wall and I'm going to be hitting them with a 4570 from 500 yard away okay yeah okay Rambo well done are you what country do you live in Spain I mean you live in the UK but I'm from Spain yeah yeah no and I'm not I'm not saying this is assumption Again by the way no no no I'm not I'm not saying well now it's clear why you don't charge for this information I'm not I'm not saying this as an insult you see this right well I'm not saying this as an insult but it's just clear to me you don't understand firearm C and fight against 100 guys hey if a 100 dudes are able to gather and try to kill me about me again maybe I'm from I'm from mon from Mexico now probably that's just Asad fact yeah I'm from Europe and I'm from Mexico well done bro well done buddy R why you talking to me yeah Rambo I got you Rambo continue no you see what you understand what you don't understand is if a 100 people are trying to kill me what's going to happen if I call the cops they'll arrest me and then let me die in jail that's what happens in the US if there's enough angry brown people that want to kill me the US police will arrest me for some [ __ ] reason put me in jail and I'll die in jail or I'll live 50 years in jail being miserable okay that's that's how it works over here we're not the country we're not the land of the free anymore yeah like like J like Jamie like it's it's all about like you so it's like uh with [ __ ] antifa that's the thing and this is why like a lot of like guys like for for example me why I'm anonymous because if I say what I what I really think you know I'm I'm going to have antifa showing up to my work I'm going to be fired and I'm going to get censored and all this other nonsense this is why like most people let's say let's say there's an antifa meeting right 20 miles from me and they hit under chronic and they have AKs as you said and they want to go to my house and kill me okay right now if I go to their meeting in a mask and I drop just about eight ccs of a suspicious fluid into their water jug and they all die the same night what happens I'm defending myself preemptively they're trying to kill me I go to jail I get the chair I get graped in jail by Giga Tyrone okay that's why I don't like the cops because they wouldn't be a problem if I could defend myself proactively but since the cops would kill me or put me in jail forever I can't do that there's a lot of solu to these problems white men are just not well I say white men men just aren't allowed to pursue these Solutions because a pig with a badge is going to stop it that's why your country of Spain's going to be overtaken by migrants from Africa because none of the men are allowed to do anything it sucks you need another Reconquista Reconquista Reconquista my VOC my pronunciation is [ __ ] but they well that that really just doesn't scale and it wouldn't work so what happened what happened to the Reon I just came back from the toilet had to PE sorry I had to empty my bladder what was the Reon about oh no I'm just saying like I Can't Fight The 100 people with AKs in the same way you can't fight the migrants graping your women and children that's why we have to call the police well what do the police do oh he gets released on bail the next day because he doesn't at Le they will try to fight against the 100 guys right they're going to bring better weapons and more more staff right no what I'm saying is it's better those 100 guys are dead right no no police is the only thing that criminals the police only thing that keeps criminals in check to just be doing crazy gang [ __ ] all day long I'm not saying police are perfect SPO I'm not saying police are perfect spur but it deters criminals deters I'm not saying it's perfect either it just deters it deters from happening they don't they don't deter [ __ ] in the US anymore you got Venezuelans taking over apartment buildings you got Haitians eating people's cats they don't do [ __ ] useless I mean that's like really black pill exception to the rule out of those are facts those are facts yeah it's it's not really an exception to the rule Sergio because it's like it happens all the damn time when all the damn time can police help that's still the exception if it's 1% or less I'm sorry every apartment complex in America isn't being taken care of or taken over guys come on now come on man well it's not okay now you're you know exaggerating it it's it's just the fact the fact is majority would be 51% trust me it's not even close to 51% it is the exception it is less than what you think it's actually the vast exception let's be let's be let's be specific here now what apartment now qualifying for a number of illegal Venezuelan migrant gangs how many apartments have illegal Venezuelan migrant gangs near them a minority right but of that Minority how many are experienc seeing increased crime because of them you think it's going to stop you think you think they're going to stop importing migrants Muslims invading my country is because a political party of socialists are in charge when they're gone these guys are going to be gone well simp I because we have a police force that can do that I disagree because I have never seen are you from Spain no I because I've never seen okay well yeah well because I've seen your rightwing governments be [ __ ] just like the left governments you don't live there you've SE hey call me up when your rightwing government goes door to door and deports people okay tell me when that happens I'll move to Spain to be a citizen we will Deport people trust me no no no I'm not talking about o Deport people I'm talking about shotguns door too get out of our [ __ ] country that's that's the masculine response you don't need to go door to you do you actually do though you actually need some testosterone in your country they will get ID they will get ID they don't need to go out they're in the streets they'll get ID and slowly slowly each one of them and they'll go to court in leftist NGO will mix up the process they'll be stuck in court they'll get their family over there more migrants coming in never seen a video of Spanish Border Police shooting migrants I've never seen it so it's not going to Happ expect you to understand you want to be Rambo but I don't expect you to understand anything I don't expect you to have testosterone because you're a Euro cck you don't you have gun how many guns do you have bro you have no guns you have no rightwing government your your farri government are Democrats bro that's what they are a full beard I'm have a giant [ __ ] that every tweet every everybody in Twitter seen you have a giant what a what do you mean testosterone I'm 6'2 I have a full beard I'm jacked and have a giant [ __ ] and you have no guns and you have no guns while the Algerian has a 22 that will put you in the ground congratulations you're a [ __ ] buy a gun the gun is about the gun that's it wow yeah you don't even have that bro you don't oh there's American women that could put you in the ground bro there's a fat American woman right now with a 22 that could put you in the ground because your politics are so [ __ ] cucked if I go America I'll buy a gun how about that can you buy a gun if I go to America yeah but probably oh America but in you're trying to flex about being a Spanish Chad can you buy a gun to Spain um probably yeah for the house we have a shot we have a few shotguns like wait you do have a shotgun in the house for hunting yeah okay good job good [ __ ] bro I'm actually happy for you good job good good it's for hunting we hunting a deer intr a couple of uh we got a couple more people who want to want to come up and speak uh we got get rid of some speak we gotta get did you want to say anything else yeah so your channel Undead so it's not about solutions for anything then is that is that what I'm solle solutions for the individual not for society if I if I talked about solutions for society I'd be in jail right now bro I can't do that okay but you do realize like Florida is like just fine like we don't have to wor we don't have V Venezuelan gangs or none of that [ __ ] you're talking about no you have a lot of other gangs right okay so we need more police no you need those people to be deported right illegals illegals to be deported well I mean hey hey hey hey I'm just saying if someone's an anchor baby and they got forced to on a boat by shotgun I wouldn't cry about it um Can Dr proof I want to hear Dr proof and can dump Cat come up I'm going like I'm GNA swap seats with dumb cat come up please is that possible yeah yeah thanks for uh speaking jimie I'm gonna I'm gonna put you down as listener Uncle Tom did you have anything else before I put you down as listener as well no yeah can you bring Dum cat up as well please thank you yeah I will well so later Jamie later Uncle Tom hey you two guys have a good day um I know it's what the morning in Spain have a good day at work bro all right Dr proof yeah you have the floor okay thank you um I hope you could be patient with me I I'm gonna try to phrase I I have a set of questions for you Undead um so uh just to just to explain we had a red pill debate space like on what the red pill actually is is and uh one thing that link explained about his position was that his his belief about the red pill does have like a moral or ethical component to it I know that Sergio and nuke and others would say it's like a prology meaning just like a description but link believes that you know that there's like four core tenants um I did hear you that you that you just said you're looking for solutions for the individual not Society but I imagine that that doesn't necessarily apply to like the bro code right so like all Med would still be part of like whatever your Solutions are is that correct or is that incorrect I mean I would hope most men would go to the gym I would hope most men don't you know think the only purpose of life is vagina um every man's different there's always going to be a crackhead there's always going to be a guy that just wants to get punti and so he'll listen to the show and I'll say lift a lot of weights act aggressive wear this do that and you'll get pun and if he gets you know give it's value for it okay I don't hate him for that it's just I think I personally think the best way to live your life is not to just Chase meaningless sexual encounters and I guess my question for you is because you know especially for these guys not not even the crackheads okay I'm just talking about like the average guy who for whatever reason in life whether it's neuroticism or just like he's just a super horny dude or whatever it is his focus is punon which makes him more susceptible to like you know fawning on women and doing to to the point where his friends and other people around him would describe him as like hopeless right in in that case would you ever what like is there an end is there an end date or like a specific trigger that makes you decide that's one brother that I can't help and I have to leave them behind I mean I don't really work one-on-one with people um my personal friends none of my personal friends were you know obsessed with punti would give everything up for punti would do this and that you know I never really was friends with those kind of people I knew them uh those people are kind of cringey to men and women in general so they get rejected by mostly of everybody but I would say if I had a friend who was just obsessed with getting chicks and he was a and he just was trying to do everything to get a doing all the stuff all the crazy [ __ ] I would just buy him a hooker and if that doesn't solve it you know hey man you know what I believe live your life good luck so I guess um along that line do you when it comes to like you know the the core of of like your audience or people who agree with the things that you do would you feel that the audience who's speaking to fall under a line of exceptionalism like would you ever say to yourself this this guy's not principled enough I just every time he tries to speak or like says something it's just it's not helpful you know or do you kind of like have an agnostic view about most people and then you know highlight the exceptional people do you get what I'm saying because like I noticed that in other um parts of like the prescriptive manosphere red pill sectors they're not very They Don't Really filter which necessarily means that they're trying to track people who might be gullible or who might not be very principled and I think that you know that their representation is actually kind of like in a in a feedback loop that makes uh makes the Enterprise seem more grify than it actually is because you know at the end of the day you have like you have one influencer saying like hey go to the gym blah blah blah and then there's you go to the gym like live your best life but it's like more so the filtering so do you filter so the way when it comes to advice I see it like when I give jokes some of my hardest hitting jokes are specific to a particular audience right so when I make fun of Lauren Southern and I say she looks like a jogger from White Hill Downs in Skyrim people think that's hilarious a video game people think that's hilarious if they played Skyrim right but there's a lot of people who who didn't play Skyrim and they go what's a drw what's white Hill Downs I don't know what's about this is one time I really want to put the shotgun or the barrel of the gun not in my mouth but in the speaker's mouth and then just give him the trigger and say do what's right do what's right yeah that's what I really want to do right now I don't want like usually it's me trust me these guys can vouch I always say I want to put the Barrel in my mouth the god you're [ __ ] killing my brain cells this is between Dr and Undead right now you come let's try to avoid cuz I'm streaming this to YouTube too let's try to avoid um pathetic as [ __ ] right now you're about to get owned on your own [ __ ] Channel dumbass just just just wait hey just just just just wait pathetic as [ __ ] godamn just hey can can you can you wait this guythe watching you right now I still like you I still like this guy cuz he's so um fiery I still like him but just wait um let's just avoid you're not gonna like me at all I'm gonna show you what a [ __ ] fool you are that's that's that's fine let's just let's just avoid hey link hey link I'm trying to I'm trying to answer the first Speaker bro can you um maybe take away his speaker until he like want to talk yeah take away the speaker yeah five minutes so I can talk to someone else bro that's all just five minutes calm down it's okay you get your you get your sippy cup you get your sippy cup don't worry I'll bring up a speaker in a bit after Dr proof and UND dad have had their conversation okay let's let's just not let me just tell thought speaker or um what was he he calls himself the Chad okay that's that's very telling to me in general calling yourself Chad let's avoid non YouTube friendly terms when you're talking to me and if you just start I was going to use a very non- YouTuber friendly that's fine that's fine you know give you leeway because you've been nice but uh Chad here s do you want Bic how do you know she's not a fanboy Chaz how do you know how do you know I have two dicks and whatever I'm like yeah of course you have two kids no I have two dicks and I'm okay okay then no h no diamond two k okay we we we could still roll with it billions must suck my dick okay that's fine billions must Edge I'll be your I'll be your only fans manager and we will get so much money with your two pees you don't put it on the YouTube don't put it on the YouTube dude she could helicopter twice as fast holy [ __ ] what's funny is there's nude yoga on YouTube so I mean maybe we could do like a seethrough try on hul with your two BPS on YouTube and we'll make so much money me and you will be on a yacht outside of Haiti not cuz we want to go not because we want to go to Haiti but because we want to watch Haitian each other live like oh wow look at that anyhow this is very based in red filled content So based so back to you talking about advice to I think your your general question was do you think your audience is exceptional or do you think they're different groups right and let me qualify what I'm about to because like in my mind like you know if you have if if you have the content needed to get by like kind of I I guess like pointing out the in authenticity of like you know other manosphere is like it's like a never- ending cycle it's just like or I guess I would say like the pursuit is is not as high brow as like you're just like your own content right because it's like yeah everyone's gonna fail the purity test every single they're all gonna fail the purity test anyway no one's authentic or whatever yeah but it's um so like that's where I cont if like yeah go on go on and and that's kind of what I was wondering like because at the end of the day either the the mechanism of pointing out in inauthenticity is like a market competition strategy or it's a way of filtering I'm trying to figure out which one it is for you yeah so um I don't really make that much money off of YouTube or social media in general I mean a decent amount but in total I think it's less than 20K for seven years no let's say 30k for seven years so not really that much money per year when I roast pickup artists cuz you know there's always going to be another pickup artist selling a course that's full of [ __ ] it's the same it's the same thing as me roasting a fat feminist do you think there's going to be more fat feminists next year oh yeah of course yeah how about in 2030 I mean more than more the gynocentric order will continue until it subsumes so it's more about entertainment for my fans really you know sometimes I'll put philosophical nuggets in the videos that can help the guys out um and back to my original Point jokes are like advice so if I make a joke about Skyrim joggers being Lauren Southern that's funny if they played Skyrim if I made a joke saying you know I'm roused up like a 16-year-old that was just pulled up to the varsity football team about to do an Oklahoma drill do you know what that means no right no but the young men the men who played football and know what Oklahoma drill is it's basically it's um three vers three there's two everybody's on their back they blow the whistle everybody gets up there's two dudes in front on each side they try to block or um get to the runner and the guy with the football tries to run through the hole and score a quote unquote touchdown if they played football that's hilarious like oh I'm about to hit the hole like an Oklahoma Dr [ __ ] yeah it doesn't hit with you but the Skyrim thing hit with you so it's more effective so sometimes I give advice and it'll be like women will say anything you know they'll they'll say anything to they they'll reflect what you want to hear I want kids I want to be with you forever and you'll fall into you'll fall into I don't say a trap but you'll be emotionally invested in them you'll love them honestly you'll love them men will love them and then when they break up with you they'll say [ __ ] like I love you but I'm not in love with you I want to live my life we're not good for each other for some communication communication issues not intimate enough a blah blah whatever empty good qualifier I've never had a chick I've ever heard of a chick breaking up with a guy for communication issues usually they'll say I love you but I'm not in love with you we're not good together I want to live my life but for the dudes who are in cels that won't really hit with them they never had they never been broken up with because they never had a girlfriend but for the guys that had girlfriends cuz it's a very common line I love you but I'm not in love with you they' be like it's like critical hit on their heart like damn chronic I cried about that for months so advice depends on the specific population and if I say go to the gym everybody's like yeah we should go to the gym but that's very different than you know me bringing up things that might have happened very very different right so do I think most of my viewers are exceptional um I think a large majority are but some of my viewers are haters some aren't even red pill they told me like dude I don't even I I support feminism but the way you make fun of people bro I got to [ __ ] listen to it some of them are red pills some are M tows some are cells my black pills so it's more of a yeah it's like a I'm trying to entertain the audience is my primary goal the philosophy and advice come secondary to that got it so it's not as hoyy toyy it's more like a hurah like well when I when I got inspired to do YouTube I was driving an hour and 15 minutes to each way to work it was across multiple Bridges and I would listen to Terrence pomp Sandman TFM Tim poool all those content creators and I'm like man I like I like the the radio aesthetic I like listening to something while I'm driving along so I like let me just entertain people but give them the subtle messaging of what I truly believe there's some now if you go to my channel um Dr PR pro pro o there's some videos that wow that's a lot of Phil ophy like the top 10 red pilled um Bible verses it's like 30% jokes 70% philosophy I still make I'll make those videos but the majority of the content is what people like is I'm trying to be entertaining to people Chaz can attest the last 30 ucw shows I did half of the time we're laughing at a video of some guy getting his ass kicked by a deer like it's just stupid like what's the red what's the red pill message what's what's the red pill message of someone getting their ass kicked by a deer what's the life the world's best the red pill yeah it's like what's what's the red pill message of some like autistic dude it's accountability you have to at the end of the day you're only accountable for yourself so don't get your ass kicked by a deer don't get your ass kicked by a deer yeah I I didn't even say that I just I was just laughing at the fat dude getting his ass kicked by a deer you know I'm just trying to you know I think it was funny so um do you have any other questions for me yeah I have one more um so over the last couple days um I've been trying to explain to women why Dr you're breaking up you're breaking up can you hear me yeah yeah yeah go for it oh okay all right so do you believe that the term husband material is insulting if so why the turf husband no the term husband material oh no that's you know you're husband material I mean if I was dating a virgin who like was holding the side on my face by a lake and she said chronic your husband material after I gave her a rank that's not insulting if I was like trying to data check and she call me a husband material but I got to go have my fun first that's the most insulting thing she used to say but like the second part would be implied right because most of the time she'll just say he's husband material like is she she calls a guy husband material and she's banging him that's not as insulting but most of the times like like oh that's husband material as in I don't want to date him because they want to ruin the relationship because they want to dump the next guy a date and then move on um I mean it's hard cuz I've never heard a valuable woman even say the word husband material ever right but like I've only ever really heard that when a chick is talking about oh there's this guy that I'm talking to I'm not interested in him right now but as a backup oh he's the perfect husband material kind of guy I've never really heard a chick use that when talking about a guy that she genuinely likes like if if you're you're a woman right allegedly are you a are you a CIS woman yeah okay so if you're a ciswoman at a coffee shop with your girls and one one girl says I like Joe but he's such husband material or I like or Joe is such husband material you got to if if a woman says a man is husband material you just got to ask her why isn't he your husband right it's the delay between identifying husband material and making them their husband that's what insults men so and what about in the like you know because the the feminists got kind of upset that I said that it it's not a compliment to men and then the rebuttal what one rebuttal was that you know well you know if a man calls a woman wife material that's not insulting that's like an ultimate compliment yep and I I kind of like struggled to explain I felt like I was fumbling because I I try to explain that like for him he's talking about virtues that he appreciates in her that he feels that he can invest in long term yep you know which is and then she's like and they're basically saying like well that's the same with husband material I'm like yeah but it's different because you're not the one providing and you're not the one that's going to be accountable but I felt like I was using like language instead of like a female language to explain it to them so it didn't like register that simple response is a man marries wife material a woman puts aside husband material while she dates Bad Boys right if if I called up my best friend I was like dude I went on a I I I was at the coffee shop getting a mocha I turned around I saw some olive skinned woman with short hair I'm like oh my God she looks like Costa and on the way out I was just like what are you studying she said I'm just reading a book online because I don't want to pay for it I'm like did you pay for online she goes she goes no I pirated don't tell the cops I'm like won't tell the cops but I'll still cuff you and she go she blushes and gives you her number be like bro I found wife material he would be like you should take her on a date you should try to date her you should try to marry her like that's wife mat like she's cute she's not submissive but she's like feminine in that in that moment whereas a woman when she calls a guy a husband material it's after going to the clubs after going to um um gang um bangi at activities shout out to Britney venty for Chan New York City 2012 um holy [ __ ] yeah so so uh it's it's very different because women don't pursue men do if a man sees a woman and says she's wife because if a dude doesn't want a wife he won't even say the term wifey material if a dude does want a wife and he interacts of the woman who is wife IM material he'll try to wife her up when will not well that's husband material like oh he's nice to me he pays for me but I I'm trying to live my life that's that's what I would say um send those feminists my way though because I would love to just because like I'm not trying to change your view set when it comes to debating feminists I'm not even trying to change your Viewpoint I'm trying to show my audience what their Viewpoint is under a magnifying glass that's all good approach okay well that's all I have I don't want to take up more time cool well hey uh Dr proo Pro uh Dr poo poo is is it's I'm sorry I'm sorry it's it's cut off I don't it's just is Dr p r o o Dude you have Boomer you have like a freaking like your contrast and your your font up to like the highest my ACT my name is Dr proof okay Dr prf um I'll talk you you later all right talk to you later peace hey link uh let me go take another bathroom break really quick and I'll be back to to talk to the guy that was talking about um suicide as I think what he wanted to talk to about I'll be back in a sec man okay damn he got pissed a lot bro you got Chia or you just [ __ ] drinking through beer no he's he's just drinking he's just chilling how you doing link I'm good it's [ __ ] stressful trying to be a moderator Brit but no I'm good you know me I won't make your life hard well well it also doesn't help that like never mind never mind um I'll just wait until he gets back you're lucky Arthur hasn't came man oh I wouldn't even let let Arthur up really CH no I don't I I need I don't need an Indian coming in here [ __ ] spring out on on Undead chronics show no that's not that's not happening well yeah what yeah what if what if Undead wants that I swear I'm the biggest [ __ ] [ __ ] here I keep hitting refresh and it keeps booting me what the [ __ ] is wrong with me you think after the first time I would learned my lesson sorry we we we do got well you do got some autism chz so well it's it's just I I'm so used to just hitting Refresh on the page to refresh the feed as I'm scrolling through Twitter because that's what I'm doing right now it keeps booting me ah gotta pour me some more Mead but I definitely do feel a lot better because like to me I I feel like as long as the Moral Moral and ethical components to the red pill are like emphasized and Men can't really be themselves you know what I mean because there's there's a lot there's like a lot of grime and and like messiness to male and female nature you know it's just like yeah okay you want to [ __ ] the [ __ ] Derpy you know you know like like you know you know what I mean am I [ __ ] enough to [ __ ] please like that that kind of stuff like like you know if a guy says that like when get abandoned because he's not principled enough you know what I mean like I don't know yeah yeah so it was nice to hear that he's you know more more for the entertainment and to provide philosophy and to like you know bro out basically I mean look there's yeah there's people who link up in high school and stay married forever there's dudes who graduate college as a virgin and find a girl with the body count of two but you know she she still has a tender heart and she wants to give everything to that guy and they have a happy marriage it's just when you look at populations and thousands and thousands of people it doesn't work out that way but I'm I'm always Pro subscriber being happy so I hope if you don't have a husband you get a great husband everything you want I hope Chaz gets a great girlfriend every everything he wants I want another shot of Ever Clear cool I did I got to be a a like I don't know how else to describe but he's awesome awesome husbando link has met him well a lot of people in here have met him he's a he's a funny guy but that's like that's like a low on the list of the things that make him great and uh he he taught me how to date so you kind of imagine how how all that worked out I don't know I really yeah I mean my number one um judgment is if they like subscribe share Tian CH if there's a chick with a 100 body count and she likes my content shares it agrees with me money do you think the show is going well for you right now I just want to know is this this is going oh this is awesome this is a great show for him is this like him mentally masturbating for everyone what your usual content is I'm just curious usual content um not usual content usually I don't do Twitter this is the first Twitter space Tob have ever done cuz dudes like you are too scared to click the streamyard link so well you did put you did request link you begged link to put me down as listener and then began to insult me when because because you were because you were talking about you were talking about Minecraft you could have ignored he can you hey hey let me let me let me say hey let me say said you had to [ __ ] out this is this isn't this isn't an argument anymore this is mechanics this is got hand up let me let me let this is mechanics doctor proof thank you for calling in I'll talk to you later okay peace what's up Serio yeah peace and no I just uh when you were describing kind of like what your channel is a doctor proof you know it was new to me too like would you consider yourself kind of like a reaction streamer like R likes to call reaction streamers grifters like like or do you consider yourself like a hater Channel like you just kind of hate on a lot of people like like what do you think you are probably haters the most apt description cuz I hate feminists I hate weak men I react to a bunch of [ __ ] I mean I'll react to some dude trying to do a backflip and knocking himself out I think that's hilarious is that like a relatable thing do you see yourself as a strong man what have you accomplished I want to know like if you are if you are going to be a hater of weak men what differentiates you from those weak men what is a weak man to you let's see there a lot of ways to be weak to me you're beyond weak do you want me to do you want me to answer or wait wait wait wait wait wait is this is this is this a hater monologue or are we talking here well no I'm just saying well if you want a qu if you're gonna ask a qu if you're gonna ask a question let me answer the question then then you can respond right um for sure yeah yeah so what do I think strong men or what makes you differentiate from these weak men that you hate on what makes you different weak men I hate on I don't spend money on women that aren't banging me I don't spend money on migrants I don't spend time in useless situations that don't benefit me I have two almost three hopefully and pray for me boys I got two patents out on immunomodulator drugs for cancer out okay we're talking to businesses right now to produce them very useful to everybody like you could hate me as much as you want but when your mother gets cancer you better be on your hands and knees willing to suck my dick because she gonna get my cancer drug bro you're going into the Weeds on this we're just I'm just asking it's fine to be weak men right like I just want stay on because I want a direct answer because like if you're going to say I'm going to build a YouTube channel off of hate content and I'm going to say part of that hate content is weak men then you really have to Define yourself outside of that realm otherwise you're just a clown putting on your own makeup right yeah no I agree um okay that's all physical physical strength respect you more than anything with what you say the next physical position that you're a [ __ ] oh let me let me answer let me answer physical strength pursuing a strong career emotional strength goals and spirit that's what I would say and I would say that you lack a lot of that including that that emotional strength you don't need to ask the host when you're co-host to kick someone down bro the the reason Okay the reason I asked the host is because this is my first time on Twitter space I'm on the PC I don't have the mechanics I don't know how to [ __ ] kick people so that's why I asked the host Sergio do you do you agree with him that those are like aspects of a strong man and anyone who doesn't personify the characteristics and archetypes that he just listed should be considered as we I mean yeah I think that those are good charact the problem is that I don't it authenticity is everything to me and I don't know Undead chronics real life like anybody with on with an account that's just a profile picture you can literally say anything and yeah it might be true it might be wrong I have to take it with a and say yeah he's telling the truth at all time so if he's telling the truth yeah but I had a follow-up question for my first one like the thing is like do you think that guys you know who take your advice are they less of simps like do you think that they'll be more successful in dating and life than a guy who follows Andrew Tate cuz I actually know one of your followers and I saw how much he simped and and I just need to know like like do you condone something like that because like I've seen people who take both advice and I've seen like the like where they get to and I've seen a few guys take Andrew Tate's advice and end up in pretty good positions but well one guy I know who likes your advice if we're talking about individuals I guarantee you more of Andrew Tate's followers are in jail for rape right now than mine right I guarantee you I put I put all my money down that more of his followers are in jail for I wish we could quantify that I'm not able to quantify what I'm saying is it's a difference of um it's a difference of audience size of course he does cuz he had million I had the max of like 50,000 you're you're under 30 right under 30 yes you're under 30 have you ever owned a business yes have you ever hired and fired over 10 people 10 um probably not I don't think 10 no uh do you mind if I ask what kind of business it's a biotech company okay bi you do a Resident Evil out here what the hell did this [ __ ] just say you playing Resident Evil out here real life am I Resident Evil real life yeah absolutely it's going to be chronic company you you're going to be shooting zombies in the street be like [ __ ] on that chronic he made all these [Laughter] zombies all white Raccoon City absolutely yeah that's the goal but uh back to you Chad what what were your next questions well it's actually a a sad tired I'm the dumbest cat that's been my name people when you hear dumb cat when people say dumb cat they're not calling me dumb that was my name originally I'm using Chad is because of my new red pill Arc I'm going into with a lot of my content as well so it's like I I don't see myself as a Chad so like when you try yeah yeah well I call you Chad because that's just the name I see on the space oh yeah yeah oh I'm just letting you know because we haven't met before that's cool you have any other questions so okay so you you differentiate yourself from men with like some talking points right from or from weak men now what are the main critiques you have of weak men uh they shouldn't be weak they shouldn't work with hookers they shouldn't give money to hookers uh they shouldn't waste time at they shouldn't waste money energy attention and time on low value women like Luffy do you want to take this one dude because he just attacked you like but no I I got just I let me follow or finish like my last thing well like it's fine I think it's fine that that you disagree with Angel T and everything but at the end of the day I think it really comes down to like who has the best prescri I really I think men are respected and they're judged based off of their prescriptions like if you if you give good advice you're you're a high status man like men respect you for being the best at something or being or being able to teach others how to do something that is like very valuable so um I I I don't I'm not saying that you don't have value to give but you know but just giving like the gym thing do you know who you know who Jack Murph do you know who Jack Murphy is uh I've heard the name but no okay he was exposed for being an actual cuckle that wrote about it and enjoying quote unquote the sperm Wars he told men to lift he told men to get um be dominant in a relationship is he is his advice when a cuck old tells you to go to the gym as valuable as when a man you respect tells you to go to the gym for it's a a general ad a it's a general advice statement so because it's just a general advice statement yes we can all agree it doesn't matter if a gay guy or a trans person tells you that could go to gym we can all agree that in the 90s puas masas and male feminists all told Ben to go to the gym they all did and you you can respect them or not respect them but puas masas wearing skirts and male feminists who are there preaching the good word word of feminism all told young men to go to the gym that's the one key in that's the intro so do you TR do you so do you trust what a male feminist tells you because he told you go to the gym well but he told you to go to the gym and that's good well he told you to go to the gym and that's good advice it's good advice it's all the same why don't you trust that's like your only that's your only big general advice and I'm just saying it's not that big of a deal like the thing is there is good advice out here and it really changes men's lives like it brings real value to their life like makes the money gets get them real relationships maybe gets them the ability to have kids or whatever it is that their goal is and the thing is like I'm not saying that you're invaluable I think you're great value to Black pillars and M Towers or anybody that like wants to go down the path that you choose but I would argue that it's it's the inferior strategy $660,000 gets you a kid period doesn't matter your social skills and then you sound like a feminist when you bring up doing stuff like that because that's what a like feminists are like yeah women you could just have a kid like [ __ ] having a guy like family destroy family even more okay okay okay wait wait let me let me resp let me respond to that let me respond to that first man the nuclear family is having a father having a mother does not increase a child's outcomes they just need a father so $60,000 to get a surrogate for a man that child will be much more better when it comes to outcomes lack of arrest college degrees lifetime income than any single mother Child So when you say getting a Sur you could have a son or daughter right now and you know they're not going to have a mother for their entire life you're okay with completely doing that 100,000% yes and you don't think it's damaging at all for them to not have a female figure in their life at all it might damage them emotionally or with a self ego but when it comes to arrest rates when it comes to Lifetime in come have you seen the studies of whenever a a a baby doesn't have the mother to be able to you know breastfeed or just lay on top of and have that emotional bond have you seen the studies how much it drastically affects the aband preaches cluster B but do you know what those studies didn't have an active father in the baby's life there was nobody no no no no it was it was nobody no mother they were done in Slovakia and Croatia I read those studies it was a bunch of Orphan babies that had no adult human interaction they were fed three times a day they had their diapers change but they had zero adult interaction that's not what I'm talking about I'm talking about me spending $60,000 for a baby which I will treat like my son cuz it is my son so you can't really use those studies to say that's a bad plan do you think men have the same emotional capability as women to love a child from 1 to five the same a woman can H it's probably I'm just going to give women um the benefit here I'm going to say it's probably 90% 90% they can't breastfeed them but breastfeeding helps the women out more than their child you can use formula or you can buy breast milk it's again it comes down to long-term outcomes there are negative emotional long-term outcomes to not having a mother on the life I I completely understand that but I'm comparing that to being raised with a western female mother who decides little Jimmy likes pink when he's six let's cut his dick off the problem with this is you're just you're appealing to Authority you're appealing to one one big stat about how you know men are better childhood households with with the fathers are just always better you're appealing to that Authority and then saying that that that's okay for us to have families like that ridiculous I'm appealing to the truth if you can't if you can if you not provide an argument with Statistics then I am assumed to have the truth no these are statistics are self this all you're saying we say but Mother m mother my mother I'm feeling bad cuz I love my mother I understand you two love your mothers but when I look at thousands and thousands of children we love our mothers bro it's that you are you are going off your own anecdotal biases in order to come up with a conclusion and then you call it the truth and and you're here wait and and this and you're here arguing against some multi- randomized trial of 10,000 children and you're calling me em motion [ __ ] please oh please [ __ ] please you're getting emotional I have to science on my side [ __ ] I have the science on my side you reason you're upset is because you love mommy you need mommy you think kid needs mommy I'm saying the science says no and you're like you're emotional UND Undead hold on hold hold on C hold on C hold on hold on C I got a question Undead do you think life is deterministic like if a if a stat says 80% chance that this is going to happen do you think that that means that for sure going to happen just because the stat is in favor for an individual put that part where you completely misconstrued no noit hey hey hey let me answer let me answer one question at a time bro for the individual or for the population level fatty ass no it's a very simple question do you think life is deterministic like for for a human being deterministic for an individual or are we talking about thousands of people no we'll say for yourself is so so do you consider yourself life being deterministic like if you married a woman and it's 80% chance going to divorce you do you think that's going to happen just because of you know you believe that I mean what the study assessed right the risk factors the study assessed that's what I could judge off of right so if you marry someone with half red half green hair if they have an 80% chance of divorcing you right and I see a chick with half red half green hair I'm like she look kind of hot though and I marry her that study like my my life doesn't assess how I treat her where she went to school what her education level is like what her parents relationship was like it doesn't say anything about that all it's assessing for is their hair color so there are probably thousands of variables outside of what they studied in that study that can affect outcomes right I'm sure the you know Ray Lewis was raised in a single mother household he's rich as hell yeah but to stay out of the weeds then you agree with me that you don't have a basic assessment that you can actually build the truth off of if it's still somewhat we're nuanced in a way that you need to adjust to be able to make a conclusion that you could build a prescription off of right that's three or four tiers and then but if I but if I see but if I see you have strep I perspective well but if I see you have strep num numo and that your sinuses are clonked up and you're about to get some pneumonia off the studies I'm going to treat you with a specific drug yeah there's drug resistance out there but am I really going to throw you wait am I really going to say wait wait let me let me let me let me let me finish here let me finish here totally cook you bro am I okay get it I get it you love I get it you love mommy I'm wrong you want to get your Cooks in let me let me let me finish let me finish my argument bro come on now I ever say the word mommy come on now come on now let me let me finish let me finish my argument oh my God these boys are just blow blow blow blow don't talk about my mama bro yeah I they you know they are see when when a strong when a strong white man speaks more than like 20 seconds they can't handle it they spur out that's what it is that's what it is knows how to di measure never had to deal with a strong man telling them what was going on like call my mom I don't want to go to the attention this is just mental masturbation for you bro I hope you're not jacking off right now this would be some uh this be some domination material black black pill mtow Story Hour it's finest are you are you wait wait wait are you are you done getting upset or can I continue or no you don't understand well you you don't want to wait this is my base level how I debate this is my tone when I debate no no no no it's not I don't care about your tone you just can't shut the [ __ ] up when I'm speaking that's all so mad and you have mommy issues you keep evoking mommy the projection is going strong today and and to say that's very masculine are we going to are we going to let me speak or are we going to get off sh you evoking okay can we your can we can we can we mute him for a little bit so I can give my point because I was I was going to give a point but it takes it takes more than like 20 seconds for me to to to explain it and uh we got you know machad here on his red pole Arc getting upset that I say you don't need a mother for for for you know the great outcomes and just he just can't you just can't handle it bro he just you just get too offended you got to speak up and talk over me my my issue and my take on your take was not had anything to do with the mother and what you were talking why can't I finish my take well because you keep misrepresenting my no no no I'm trying to get I'm trying to explain my point of view here that's all to clown you with these clips well you you can clown me with your Clips that's so okay that's okay I don't care let me just finish my complicated analogy what we say it's what you say can I let me let me finish my complicated analogy that you won't understand but your fans might is that okay okay so we're talking about whether or not a study that looks at two or three variables can be utilized in an individual's life right so when I talk about no himman no diamond it looks at the variable of what is a female's past sexual partner count right and the more the higher it rises the more likely she is to have an unstable marriage okay so Sergio said does that influence your individual life and I said it does but there's variables outside of it that can IND that can influence the outcome too because that study did not assess every single variable possible no study can honestly it can if it could wow thank you AI so if I have um Chad come in and he had let's say he has a fever he's feeling sick his can you call me dumb cat I would appreciate if you call me dumb dumb cat change your name cat okay yeah change your name bro it's the chattis cat okay your government name you don't have to but no no I I I'll do my best is that your YouTube channel just no just think I'm dumb just like think I'm dumb pretend I'm dumb call me dumb that's all I dumat okay I'll try I appreciate I appreciate you man I I'll try my best okay dumat so if dumat comes in he's feeling sick he's puked a couple times his fever's spiking he's sneezing all over the place and I assess him I run some tests those tests are based off of thousands and thousands of people who had similar symptoms and they had one diagnosis let's call it the flu right is the flu I'm going to treat him based off of those tests now some people who have the flu spend a lot of time in the sun they drink a lot of orange juice they have great vitamin C levels they're sleeping all day they're still in that study other people in the study get the flu and they're still working 100 hours a week they do much worse but the study didn't assess for the difference of Lifestyles I'm still going to treat him based off of the average okay if it's within 48 Hours yo take this Tami flu you'll feel better soon all these other variables that come in we can discuss individual variables once they come up but if I say something like no himman no diamond I'm talking about just sexual partner count if someone shows up goes well I know some chick that banged 20 guys and she's still married she's been married for 30 years okay does she live in Afghanistan that's important that's a completely different variable what what's her par what's her relationship like with her father who has the power in the relation there's so many other variables to discuss besides what the main studies say but it doesn't change the advice based off of the variable assessed by the study that's what I was trying to say I want to ask really quick on that uh if you're starting a business which you said that that you're doing like you are sorry one you know that's a very risky thing you know and there's a high chance of failing uh or way higher chance of failing than succeeding it's the same for marriage you know it's the same for relationships why why would you not take the risk like the same either way it's high risk High reward either way well the risk for a biotech firm it depends on if I put my life savings into it yeah it's pretty yeah it's a big risk but the risk for a biotech firm is nobody buys my patent that's it the risk for divorce is I only have at most 50 % of my child my my child's time and I lose 50 to 60% of all resources I get regardless of what job I do so it's a much different risk benefit analysis for starting a business versus marrying a woman I who fights for 5050 doesn't get hit as hard the problem is whenever guys don't fight for 50/50 and then also like what what you just said like is that the only business you would ever like are you saying that if there's no other types of Business Like You Do you ever see yourself as becoming a business owner one day and quitting like your regular job and like having a a business that you own or or are you like because that that's how businesses work sometimes it takes people 10 businesses before they're successful with their first one because a rare chance it depends on the type of business you're talking about so if I was to do if I was treat this channel like a business longevity is a benefit right but when it comes to a lot of Biotech there are solid there's a ton of dudes in living in Carbon Beach right now in Malibu that the way they made their money was they did a lot of good science they came up with a patent a drug idea um a molecule that worked effectively and they showed it worked and then they sold it to a fizer they sold it to Johnson and Johnson and they got paid out 100 million 200 million whatever it is so there's a there's a business trajectory where you're making startups consistently and you're still making more than 99% of business owners but you're not like I'm CEO of a business that's been around for 20 years that does x amount of dollars profit so when it comes to Tech especially biotech it's more about proof of concept get the money next if you because you're a smart guy you can find proof of concept anywhere now some guys will be like okay well I want to take my proof of concept on then you're taking investment Venture Capital you need to prove it and ship a product that's a lot of time you got to deal with nurses you got to deal with businessmen like nah let me just prove the concept and sell it off for a good number yeah I just I still think that it's just it's in general taking risks and I just no it's all about is the risk worth it so some guys just like I have a wife and kids before I went to college I go to college I study biology my friend who works in the same lab as me he says he has a great idea do I take the risk of spending two to three years trying to help him with his idea getting paid scratches if not anything or do I take a steady job making 70k a year at a pharmaceutical company that's the risk like yeah there's still risk but it's like you can always if the if the business fails you can always try to get a job somewhere else if your marriage fails you're stuck you don't think that guys can bounce back from a marriage failing I think it's a lot harder to bounce back because how do you bounce back from not being in your child's life well like you're you're only not in your child's life if the judge deems that you're so [ __ ] bad you can't be in your child's life even if even if it's 50% that's 50% too little you need to be in your child how is 50 how's like that do you think that you deserve 100% and that your child shouldn't have their mother in their life I think if the choice is whether or not I only see my child three days or four days out of the week or the child lives with me I think living with me is better for the child yes well yeah I'm not so so you can fight for it to end up that way but what I'm saying is that like you would still want the mother to be in the child's life like every other weekend or you know the the other way around correct she could come visit my my house but having the child away from me no that's not good for the child so you have a belief that it's you you even at the detriment of the child the the like it cannot be around the mother at all without you around I disagree because this is a divorce case this is a custody case this woman wants to basically his already killed the family unit okay for whatever reason I think that it's not for 10 years she wasn't having sex with you and she was like fully like she was an alcoholic and a drug addict like you you'd Force you'd still stay with her no I'd force her into a psych ward it's very easy to do I'd force her into therapy and if it got to the point where she just refused to have sex with me refused to take care of the kids I divorce her in the perfect world she would go go to the bar be a barfly and my kids wouldn't see her Sergio um this is do you think this is what Andrew Wilson feels like when he's like debating those only fans girls on whatever podcast hey I'll be back in a minute guys hey yo you gonna put him in Arkham Asylum Undead yeah what do you think what what do you think sir I just I'm just very uh surprised I don't know bro like my big thing is that I just want try not to laugh right now I just want [ __ ] I just want the the I really believe the moms and the dads to be in a child's life that's all I'm gonna [ __ ] say I don't care what anybody else wants I mean an issue with that statement is that 80% of divorces are filed by women so every woman that's filed for divorce does not want the father in that kid's life because divorce means they're spining up and that that's not that is a big [ __ ] giant gigantic reach bro like you can break up with somebody and still want them to be a father in your kids's life like that's that was a reach oh I am so glad of a 10year marriage I had that that's the woman I had my kid with like I'm so [ __ ] glad I had a kid with her and I would never have a kid with anyone else she's a [ __ ] amazing mother and she's a good ex-wife she's a great ex-wife too okay so why I mean I don't want to cry into personal stuff but why is she an ex-wife did she cheat on you or something that no she didn't that's not a um that's not a Fring thing that's not a fringe thing outside of the city in Rural America people have amical divorces all the time with people who are they are glad they have their kid with so you're you're again you have no life experience parents are your hey Chad uh oh wait dumbest cat is are your parents divorced no no okay do you want to get divorced no but see you do do you want to get divorced did I want to get divorced do you want to get divorced no I'm already divorced that was damn damn sorry about that bro damn [ __ ] no no no no she wanted no alimony no no she wanted no alimony I asked to pay child support and she actually put it toward okay wait so you have K okay what's the split is it 5050 yeah so now I understand why you're so upset about my opinions it makes sense no I'm not upset no that has nothing you're clearly upset I mean you disagree but you're also upset about it well no I'm not upset you keep putting that on me you keep saying I'm the OB well I mean you didn't you just spend a couple minutes making fun of me calling me a hook basically comparing me to a hooker clearly upset about it bro I do think that that's no I didn't compare you to a hooker I don't know I mean can you extrapolate on where I called you a hooker well you're like do you feel like it's um the whatever podcast talking to the hose right no no I said that to Sergio that like when when you are face debating somebody who doesn't know how to debate and all they have no life experience either right so they're all like every single way that you've ever attacked me any way that you ATT would you stop and let me if well if you aren't upet woman in this chat she's acting less emotional than you bro if you aren't upset well hey hey if you aren't upset we can get personal and I can find out I'm not getting personal no I'm saying I'm saying we can I'm saying I'm willing to get statistics you haven't even got gotten a full assessment of you just go based on what do you mean I haven't gotten a full assessment wait I haven't got a full assessment well let me ask a let me ask a question you're like a little mini Destiny why why are you a mini Destiny how hey come on come on now you you can't say you can't just speak on for minutes and then not expect me to ask a question I don't understand answer my question so I don't understand the statistics I'm talking about is that what you're saying no I'm saying you have no life experience to be able to judge that against okay so if I haven't got wait so if I so if I haven't gotten real so if I haven't gotten divorced I can't speak about how divorce is been no no no that has nothing to do what's what's the life experience I'm lacking the life okay hey guys do you know na do you know who Nafi is do you know who Nafi is if you met Nafi zova you should follow him you should follow Nafi zov answer the question okay so you give the like you give the energy of like a virgin teaching people how to get laid okay you give the energy of a dude that Pi wait hey you give the energy of a dude that picks up dementia patients who are 90 years old and you [ __ ] them in the ass when they're in a coma see how that works it's not an argument wait is he is he how is he what you said isn't an argument you see how what you [ __ ] said isn't an argument your energy you're talking like a woman your energy is like this your energy is like with the Haitians eating goose but like let me put my sacks in it first dude it out let it go well I'm saying like you you speak like a woman when you argue I'm just letting you know that's all you you just used my own thing again you just I I I proved to you that your argument was useless by using it against you yes well no I said if you well you didn't though well you you said I have the energy of a you said I had the energy of a virgin teaching you guys how to get laid I said you had the energy of a nursing assistant who grapes old women in comas uhhuh yeah yeah but but I okay is your basis of like your understanding of your critique on me because I will give you because you sound like you get no [ __ ] and you're sad about you got divorced and so you go to the nursing home child it's all feels it's all it's all feels bro it's all I'm trying to insult you is it true no it's not true right you obviously don't do that but you're just like you sound like a virgin you're clearly a virgin it's the same energy bro it's useless it's not a it's not a it's not a good prod some of these people in this room have seen pictures of me and my son together so that's really funny that you call me a virgin and I appreciate that so much because no I didn't call hey I I never called you a virgin hey I never called I never called you a virgin I never call you virgin you yelled virgin virgin no I just said you grape women who are 80 years old in a coma that's what I said all right so okay so the reason I said that you off as a virgin trying to teach people how to get laid is because it seems like you have no personal understanding or experience behind what you're talking about like when you're exle Let me Give an example wait wait quick question real quick real quick question wait real quick question are you cool with link are you cool with link yeah of course okay cool hey link hey hey hey link do hey link do wait wait wa quick link do me a favor and tell me what you see in the picture I just sent you UND hey link what do you see what do you see link what do you see you you come off like I'm looking wait wait wait wait wait wait real quick let's see if I'm a virgin or not wait let's see if I'm a virgin or not what do you see link I I'm not I I I saw I see wait describe heit link describe to your friend what you see I I see a chick bent over with a UC and then it um with the like crossed off does not equal in this is like dude this is like really pathetic as wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait you're wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait a second [ __ ] wait wait wait wait one second wait one second wait Grandma graper wait one second you're someone you trust someone you trust just told you he got a picture of a chick bending over with the words written on her ass cheeks Undead chronic is not an incel what's your response to that that's really pathetic pathetic wait wait am I am I still an incel no I didn't say you were an incel you literally said I had the energy of an incel telling dud again this [ __ ] oh this dumb [ __ ] you don't even raise your son you got a [ __ ] raising your son I know why you're so upset son's gonna be a trainy this his son's gonna be a try his son already lost his nuts oh God I know why he's so angry your son's going to be dressed in 2 years [ __ ] not my fault that's your fault [ __ ] oh he's screaming into his mic right now I'll give you an example when you talked about like will you accept your trans daughter shot will you accept your trans daughter will you accept your trans daughter you never really experienced violence what violence means and has like no stake in the future like they don't have kids they don't understand what you don't have kids either you don't raise them your [ __ ] raises them broit you don't have kids either we have the same amount of kids [ __ ] women's raising your chid kid that c got crazy hum I like this you like him saying that to care I'm not invested in nothing y'all saying this [ __ ] hilarious well I know you are heyo that's what hey yo hey yo Phoenix that's why I'm here bro that's why I'm here I'm here to make you laugh [ __ ] that's right that's all you can do and guess what most of it is US laughing at you and we will with the clips bro you don't control your son you don't control your son single father who's divorced who wanted to pay his wife child support he laughing wanted to pay your wife child support it's a 5050 split is you don't control your son's life you're angry because I'm right and you can't fix it I get it it sucks we've all been just Clowning on you all evening you haven't been about anything hey I got 500 people here clowning on you right now I mean sure people clowning on Me YouTube yeah YouTube yeah YouTube damn this [ __ ] on YouTube live man yeah that's right that's right [ __ ] would you say you're clowning on me because I have a kid I'm clowning on you because your lack of control I'm saying I'm clowning on you because your lack of control I literally see my kid half the year your lack of control over your kid makes you emotional on them Mee a mother that's why I'm clowning on you mean lack of control over my you're trying to justify your lifestyle and fit your philosophy to it you got [ __ ] that's not my fault not my fault it's not my fault you got [ __ ] bro no no no like I I understand that like I failed and my wife failed too in our relationship like we did have a falling out over who who who initiated the divorce we both did no no always I was the one who said I was the one who said you know what I don't even know why we're fighting through this anymore I don't even know if we're fighting for anything are we even fighting anymore what was the problem what was the problem it was just time like time dude time we both I was I's a question I always I was running three businesses at the time I was running three businesses at the time and trying to raise my son with her without having like and and she was also trying to work on the side and she was very feminine and at the time I was Lefty as [ __ ] and so like weak man breaking him down now no no no no it's hey it's all right he he said he was he got better okay yeah he got better that was one of our big split-ups was the fact that I discovered Jordan Peterson and then she started seeing red flags in me because I found Jordan Peterson reg convers hey hold up let me ask him a question hey Cat did your wife lose your Virginia to you no no she didn't that makes sense but here's but like here here's the thing though like can we well can we judge him harshly like can we judge 15 body she was my I was or her second body what I'm say what I'm saying is like can we judge um the dumbest cat based off of that if he married a woman while being a leftist who was a non- virgin I don't like I can't hold that against him cuz he wasn't in the space at all like I really can't yeah I I wasn't even aware of like yeah so like you know I'm not going to understand that I was indoctrinated at the time what made you though like what was your upbringing like who raised and then I realized then that was a cognitive dissonant moment and then that that ruined friendships and my relationships I didn't even talk to my parents for like two and a half years before I rekindled things with them and my a stuff yeah and then they're like oh you're not a [ __ ] woke [ __ ] anymore and I'm like no I'm not a woke [ __ ] no more and they're like welcome back to the family and basically you know that was a whole like learning curve moment but I was like 32 at that time already I was a grown [ __ ] man but still we go through [ __ ] man yeah so like I can't judge who you are today by your past mistakes when you were someone else so that sucks me honestly like yeah I think you're wrong I don't like you because you call me I don't know what you call me I understand but but like back like I don't I'm not holding that against you what happened in the past because you were uninformed but I really do think that you would agree with my um Utopia view of what society and marriage should be right because you wouldn't have a woman that would give you so much pain and stress I mean if you had three businesses did were you making enough money to support the household of the three businesses I was supporting my parents who I didn't get along with and my UNC what was upbringing that you then I was still like Christian based enough that like I understood I have to take care of the people and forgive them that they that hate on me yeah and so I think that that actually Christ is my red so here's the um here's the question here's the question for you theology through Jordan Peterson allowed me to really hold true to those roots and actually break so here here's the question I have for you let's say um you and your wife were still together you had four kids and you were like 70 or let's say you were 58 58 and you were struggling financially and you had a son with a wife who was also struggling financially would you want that son who was struggling financially to give you money or to focus all of his money on his own Family Focus all his money on his own family dude so you you my son's the future yeah so so you are a better father than your father was if that's how you feel because honestly like I feel the same way like you like you shouldn't have had to give any money to your parents maybe it was a communication problem maybe they didn't know how much you were struggling men are proud they want to talk about it but if there was a lot of financial stress in your life if your wife wanted to stay Financial stress was nothing that was not what broke us up was it what broke us up was a lack of communication and the fact that like I was seeing other people right you is this an open relationship sh it was like it turned into one weird at that time I was leftist I got into the BSM Community I was like a dominant [ __ ] for like three years yeah for like three years I was into the local community and Che BDSM wait wait wait wait wait wait hey Phoenix are you black weird wait wait Phoenix Phoenix Phoenix Phoenix are wait wait wait wait wait wait wait Phoenix are you still Phenix Phoenix wait real quick wait real quick Phoenix are you black yes I'm black white white as hell so what white people like to do wait wait so so what white people like to do is now that we can't whip [ __ ] in public we whip our wives and BDSM clubs that what we do instead I knew something was off about cat you know BDSM Club bro we growing C out the front got out of it I got out of it she got out of it because it wasn't working for us oh man this C then it was two years later no she never wer we weren't swingers she didn't like have her own guys or anything she got Fu before she met you that's the point she was getting her [ __ ] robed [ __ ] wait was she banging other dudes or were you just like banging her in front of other dudes no there was no no it was like I would go to the club I would go to the I would go to the club hey I'm telling you Phoenix you want to dat a white girl she's going to tell you to whip her in front of other people you got to be careful with these snow bunnies bro I'm just telling you you gotta be careful [ __ ] no hey this is all hey hey hey chat hey dumbest cat this is uh this is all jokes into it was actually the intersectional lens leftist view I had able to support everyone's Kinks right and see everyone as individual no I'm saying what what I said about the clubs and cotton and whipping it's it's not a I'm just I was just trying to make Phoenix laugh I'm not trying to comment on your lify I'm going to laugh anyway under chonic this nigga's life is funny if you want to clown on me for be for telling the truth do that but I don't want I'm not laughing at you I'm saying like your your truth your truth is when I hear you tell your life story it's like a 14-year-old kid telling me about how he got hit by funny was like hearing a 14-year-old kid talk me how he got hit by a truck like I I'm not gonna blame him for that that sucks he's in a wheelchair like we need to understand how like what in his youth led to this life like cat what like who raised you like what led to this this liberal like as you said you was a like wait wait how how old are you cat wait cat are you in your 30s or how old are you my first my first six years I was raised on a commune in Northern California up in the in the sequ so were your were your parents like rightwing or leftwing they were they were in a cult and then they broke free from that cult and then they were left okay okay that D broke up right my dad woke up and woke my mom up and I still wasn't woken up you see D he's trolling right now what the [ __ ] why you trolling us right now I don't I I the way he sounds I really don't think he's trolling though like if you were lying about that would sound like you would sound different he be going off randomly like on people he going off randomly on UND he was going random I know he I know he's he's angry and aggressive I know that but the way he got a but here's the thing when I asked him to talk about himself and his life story it sounds very authentic so I don't really think he's lying about this I I don't think should took the eill Bro should have took the E pill I'm not I'm still not black pill my 13-year-old is doing [ __ ] amazing he wants to start his own business right now his mom his mom is blue pill like you you would call her red pill as [ __ ] too and that's why like I'm really glad I had a a baby with her man but but what do you think the reason what why do you think that she wanted to divorce also what happened W like I said like I think that after we tried all these other things when things kind of when we lost the spice right to try and spice it up without talking without actually communicating and then when I had a different ideology like a different like eventually she woke up too like shortly after we broke up her parents got her conservative and Christian and stuff like that and we still were having trouble just because of I mean when you when you've had why why can't why can't key a go back into lock a like why Why Can't This come back together again I mean it might who knows I don't know you know what you getting angry you talking to me for about 40 minutes right I'm telling you this text her tonight and say we should meet up let's bring it back together because if you bring her into your household and you raise your kid together that'd be great for got my story now you would understand why from you who accomplished nothing and done nothing with your life I can't take you seriously enough to even take your advice is it me you talking about wait who wait wait wait wait wait wait who who accomplished nothing who accomplished nothing let's not do this dick measuring thing guys come on who accomplish wait who accomplished nothing wait I need to know no you're right you're right that's a dick measuring com you're right yeah let's not do that let's not do that wa wait wait wait wait who wait wait who accomplished nothing no no we're not we don't need to go there I I already I push yeah you push back damn it I was so ready with my response I know you were oh now I hate you more now I hate you more you [ __ ] you you ruined my content God damn it but here's the thing though it happens a lot that like left this people do believe this is my backstory and I hope you get a lot content oh no I'm about to cry right now man your back story got me sad like in man [ __ ] right now wait the Naruto Sadness and Sorrow soundtrack like you skip season two and season three of my childhood right it's all right okay hey link do you want to uh part C too hey link can you uh filter through these uh guests let's get some new ones in some old ones out yeah hey it was good talking to you the dumbest cat um if you actually got on the YouTube page onay chronic you have blood I'm not uh Dr Pro had a question though oh I'm I'm saying like hit me uh hit me up on my email zombie kush5 gmail.com and uh just give me like if you said you were starting something this YouTube channel Twitter whatever I'll try to retweet some [ __ ] or whatever the hell you want just like hey do me a favor bro do this I'll go I'll go do it you're expect my dick I didn't even ask you to social media dick sucking like I'll retweet one tweet and it be like oh bro you sucking my dick bro you me you know I really blah blah blah blah blah need to want your audience I'm sorry I'm good I'm good it's fine you know it seems like the red pill path you're on is more like recovering from a leftist cockled family right so like a leftist cockled audience wouldn't like what I say because we're mostly masculine men and leftist cockled recoverers don't like masculine men because they feel threatened and not being able to talk to women properly that's not masculine yeah yet again way yet again sorry I'm right well no it's it's okay I'm the dude that [ __ ] your wife in the BDSM Club you're the dude that watches it's okay I don't I'm not offended about it you better rub her up with her I'm not I'm not using a rubber but you better use a rubber bro because I don't want your [ __ ] if your audience thinks this is good content and you're not even building a full this peak content the [ __ ] you I'm talking to a leftist who got cucked by BDSM fat dudes bro this is hilarious this is [ __ ] hilarious I'm not a leftist though well you I'm saying ex leftist ex leftist right like you used to be a cockle of people are you're a lot of people are I'm not a recovering cuckold I was straight my whole life [ __ ] I've always been better when I was 10 I was not a cuck you were a cuck when when I was 15 that was better than you it's okay it's okay I'm trying to give you some sympathy but I want you to know I was always better than you always oh thank you so much for letting me know you were always better than me oh my God if you want if you want to reach my level consider subscribing to Undead chronic on YouTube and I'll teach you how not to be a follow [ __ ] you've got 400 followers no one's watching your content no one will wait wait wait I got people on YouTube watching it right now Sergio is he a brand let's not let's not let's not do this okayy hey link hey link hey link let's let's filter him out he's upset hey link get him out of here he's upset that he's getting cuted let's not do this CL this get him out of here he's he's getting cucked by sandre Andre Pablo we got tyone and his wife got a lot of they got a lot of teachers you got a lot of teachers trying to take off his son's I'm going to cyle you out brother let's go back to ideas again bro like we we guys are like there's a lot measur how do you get back in here [ __ ] what the hell is that going I thought already got upset about you getting upset about clarifying questions why are you still here I'm chilling Rambo I'm chilling don't worry I'm chill oh okay okay okay wait let me let me wait let me take give me a sec give me a second let me chill let me chill too let me chill too I'm bro I'm going to send link a picture of myself as well to for him to I don't need your beat off me don't send me a lud the thing I would never oh he sent me a picture of him pulling his pants down in the hot tub I'm just [ __ ] I'm just kid you're the one who sent L link verify me I'm just I'm just kidding L you guys trust him guys yeah my dick is good link no I don't want to see your penis stop talking about it guys picture of my penis Dam you better not send me a picture of your dick dude cuz women I don't do it like him bro your boy send you Pi of his penis not me bro no he did he see here's the difference between me and you Jamie I said pictures of naked women you sent pictures of naked men videos I got porn videos I got videos hey L you got to get them out of here bro you got get him out here L fck I can't deal with this [ __ ] tonight I can't deal with it get him out of here bro I can't I can't do it you're you're co-host so you can do whatever it is that you I can't I'm I'm stupid on on on Twitter I can't do I'm I'm I'm I'm chilling please please please okay wait wait wait okay he says the thumbs up okay I'm GNA trust his thumbs up just don't send me penises no not to you bro send it to don't worry bro I got you man okay I feel okay so so let's try to get some new people up in here we got who's this yeah I I sorry link one second yeah I my point we follow each other I couldn't jump in I'm grifting I'm grifting it it was too viral I just couldn't jump in but um yeah so the whole thing I I know the whole surrogate dad or whatever the [ __ ] you're talking about obviously you don't really believe that this $50,000 and so that you're trolling with that right what do you think I don't believe like so we know that's not viable you know that's not viable why why isn't it viable so what stage in someone's life are you saying they should spend a man's life they should spend 50 Grand and [ __ ] buy a kid when they when they want a child when they want a child so let's say it's 35 yes they make they make what two grand a month three grand a month they should spend 50 Grand on a kid I'm I'm I guess I'm I'm biased because I'm privileged right okay well exactly that's my point right so if if if you have if you have an IQ above a 100 and you want a family and you think feminism is bad and you think the divorce rate is bad and you want to avoid getting divorced you will pursue a career that will make you more than $2,000 a month right yeah you could be like one of these guys in Malibu like you're talking about like all these guys you're describing one second the pharmaceutical guys they all have wives bro like so okay so like I mean that's true I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying making a lot of money means you're red pilled what I'm saying is if you're red pilled and not even red pilled if you are going to go down this action path you need a lot of money you know it's 60k and that's in the US if you go to the Philippines you fly back with a kid for less than 20K okay so you're paying 20K to be a baby daddy that that's what you're describing you're paying 20K to be a father because you're taking the kid back with you so then the first you know few years raising a child are you still making the same kind of money you like were thinking you were going to make if you have a career the money should always be going up if you have a job it will stagnate and inflation will reduce it job is very different than career those are very different oh so you're okay so you're one of these guys that hops on here on these channels and say in like dogs like uh wage earners wag like this whole 95 thing like these people are trash like workers are trash yeah I I don't think they're trash two things one is I'm not hopping on these channels I got like 445 you're hopping on my channel right two is no you're hopping in the Twitter space that I'm usually in actually but I told link to make it we have influencers like real influencers the reason real influen actually in this What's the title of this Twitter space what's the title okay yeah so what about it yeah so I told link to make it for me because it's hard because it's hard for me to make me a space tomorrow and he'll make one so what's your point like you're not answering any of that no argument this specific Twitter space is me asking link thank you link to make a Twitter space for me to talk to haters on my YouTube channel because I'm streaming to YouTube right so that's that no no I I'm not debating that I'm just saying what you're what the things that you're talking about don't make any sense is what what what specific what's the first thing that comes your mind I just literally laid it outre audence what what I'm saying is we've been talking we've been going back and forth for a couple minutes give me the first point so I can respond to it that's all okay well like really like most of what you said $50,000 or $20,000 to be a baby daddy yep that whole thing yeah more to be I thought you were trolling like but if you're serious then are you are you with satire are you a plumber no uh no I make six figures so what does that have to do hey there's a lot of plumbers out there that make six figures okay okay what's your point so my point is if you have the motivation if you have the urge if you have the worth work ethic to make a lot of money for the purpose of having children you can make the money to have it as a plumber electrician welder you can work at McDonald's be a manager be a franch none of those none of those jobs you mentioned can have like a child at home from age Zer to three and still be an electrician plumber like they can't actually do that and still make good money yes they can like they won't make yeah because guess guess who will be taking care of the child the grandmother like that's who will be taking care of the child while being a wait wait wait or the daycare or an all wait wait wait now the outcomes every outcome you're talking about just getting worse I'm trying to educate you on options here grandma no I'm educating you oh wait wait let me let me finish let me finish educating you before you respond Grandma a pair family brother sisters babysitter local babysitter yourself commun there's a lot of or you could just knock a a chick for free and have the same exact option and child and you can pay child support and she could cut off your kid's penis because he likes the color pink that sounds nice doesn't it maybe for your son it sounds nice yeah but uh that's like no you're reaching there now you're reaching reaching who do you think causes I understand it exists and I understand it's pervasive but still you're still reaching you're still submitting to a woman's decisions when you say that all right well I agree it's it's already a Checkmate so I'm just I agree I agree with you in that it's harder for a lower income earning people to do this I 100% agree but which is most people like so none of your listeners can do what you're talking about 80% literally like out of the 400 people watching like maybe one or probably zero say let's say 80% I think it's 80% of people it depends do it 80% of people can't do it what you're talking about yeah it depends way more than that no electricians plumber everything you name can't do that it depends none professions can do it depends on it depends on their discipline right link link I'm done this was silly well it was silly cuz you can't have a conversation but it's not silly because you need the new iPhone every year you need the new car you need a sexy car that Tau to women because you can't get women's attention without a good car if you drive a shitty car if you don't spend money on booze if you don't spend money on weed you can do it but you can't imagine a life without the Creature Comforts so that's why you think it's I'm not a big fan of consumerism myself but that still doesn't so if you make six figures what are you spending your money on uh to make more figures but not to [ __ ] be a baby daddy so you don't want a child but not one that's going to have a shitty outcome if you're a single father has a better outcome than a single mother and nuclear family if you don't here's the thing if you said you don't want a child I can't judge you for that that's it's okay that's your life but the idea that man I get the idea of the single yeah I get the the point you're making like appealing to those statistics but the point is is that you wouldn't live as long you wouldn't actually make as much money if you're not in a committed relationship so you got to appeal to those statistics as well well I mean if you're having one child that's it why would you get a wife like this is like endless qualifiers like well no I mean life life is endless qualifiers would you smoke weed if you're in the Army no all right link that's it bro okay yeah endless qualifiers are kind of difficult for people who only think about themselves to understand I understand that like you you're focus on your own life you can't imagine things being different that's kind of what women do right like men under six foot don't exist because I only date men over six foot I get it I get it just means you have [ __ ] think bro it means you think like a [ __ ] and so in the grand scheme of things right do I consider you a man yes I do are you the same level of man as myself and others that I respect no no you're not because you make 100K but you're focused on more money but you want no kids because you think you can't handle it because you can't handle the responsibility you can't handle the schedule that's fine you know that's actually I don't even mean sarcastic here that's completely fine my kids will rule over the remnants of your family your sister your mom your aunt will be in a nursing home and my kids will vote to be like you know [ __ ] those people let's not spend money on them why power well I mean I'm not saying why power I'm just saying like I'm saying it I'm saying it it's okay you [ __ ] talking about shotguns and mouths and now you talking about white power you [ __ ] I'm just saying we we gotta have more kids bro like white people we gota have more kids man yeah it's hard because you know here's the thing as soon as artificial wombs come about all kids will be white Chinese couples will have white kids African couples will have half white kids Latino couples will have Caso kids white couples will have white kids and what will those kids want all white kids damn I'm All of Me Maybe it's cuz of culture wait what do you have left Chaz what do you have left oh I got whiskey I got beer I got ever CLE go get a beer hey go get go get a beer go get a beer got it cool do you have any new haters uh link no I was gonna hate but we follow each other now so no bro wait do I follow you now wait do I yeah you follow okay cool cool cool yeah we're we're boys now okay we're boys oh [ __ ] I gotta join again okay do I follow you now wait do I oh I'm back you follow me let me in yeah we're boys now yeah [ __ ] up okay cool can we get some feminist up in here to like get no we here's the thing about these debate streams man the debate streams are only the debate streams are only people who agree 99% and they disagree on 1% and then they fight for three hours the feminists never show up like I'd much rather disagree with feminists it's much more fun for me more more content more eyes but now we got people arguing about specifics on Andrew Tate and methods and prology and I'm like [ __ ] we for nothing sucks more than you think you're talking to a hater and he reveals I like what you say man it's just this one specific thing wor it's like damn it hate me [ __ ] hate my guts you bastard it sucks so much that we are Link's friends so we kind of agree in like 98% of things so we have to look for something to argue about now yeah that's how it is that's how it goes up but um once uh once Elon lets people um stream or do Twitter spaces on Twitter from the the PC then I'll be able to do Twitter spaces and act people and do debates and all that kind of good [ __ ] but right now it's just I'm having link do it because you know he's had people on before I was hoping you'd get some random I wasn't expecting it but I was hoping some random [ __ ] would show up link like you know like Rolo shows up Lauren Southern shows up [ __ ] pearly show up why didn't you join the space like that Jess and me held there was like 200 people against the Tates didn't why didn't I show the uh show up for the space yeah you should have bro like I was probably working to be honest was the litest face ever bro you had like Andre Tate is a rapist I mean who use theard laughing this isn't funny just like that was I wasn't expecting that okay I mean like look the voice I was expected that I'm sorry rarded since I don't like Andrew Tate I'm going to agree with you but this is pretty this is pure you are right I'm sorry it's just like I wasn't expecting this this is pure atom like I have no evidence [ __ ] and he likes gay [ __ ] and he likes trans dick [ __ ] him I mean this is this is pure adom but I'm going to agree I'm not going to defend the [ __ ] like I'm not going to do that but I why would you he's a sad [ __ ] that was the hey CH chz chz chz that was the most white female pronunciation of [ __ ] I've ever heard in my entire life so what have a problem with white culture oh what is this uh my phone bro that's fine hey minty do you have any disagreements with me I'm just trying to understand why you think it's not it wouldn't benefit the child to have two parents we see all over the US the product of broken homes it's per capita and [ __ ] that kids can't even understand because they don't have a two parent household this sounds like a troll with a voice changer but I'll answer that I think in an Ideal World kids have both parents I think in 2024 a father is more important than a mother because a mother will divorce the father will date other men wait Chad let me ask you this question I've taught you this before let me see if you remember what child what is the description of a child that gets sexually abused most often who is it what kind of what kind of what kind of family structure household yes that's why partially why if I knew for a fact that a woman would never divorce me and always be loyal my standards would drop significantly for her she wouldn't have to squat three times a week she could squat one time a week okay she wouldn't have to make me every meal she'd just had to make me one meal a day if I knew for a fact she wouldn't divorce me but given the fact divorce is pushed upon encouraged is a culture divorce culture is the thing the term starter husband the fact that exists is disgusting to me makes me more um preferential to surrogates rather than American wom to be quite honest wa you're red pill there's no there's no guarantee that a woman's going to stay with you unless you're trying to hold her down and rape her every day there's like no can we use the word rape she's on YouTube guys chill sorry no no it's cool no I mean you're right but here's the thing dare you every single woman I've ever dated if I decided to hold her down and grape her her sexual satisfaction would increase they want they they day one bab women are sexually it's a byproduct of the biology but women are sexually attracted to violence it's just a fact yeah it's in their DNA yep but then honest question like you talk about being a single father because I'm thinking about being a single father but what if I had a daughter who would teach her like these feminine things like makeup and like that oh man what would I do about that though honestly bro like I can give you generic advice but specific advice no not specific I'm just saying like because you said I mean I agree with you with a single fire thing because that's what I'm thinking in an ideal world you would choose your husband but you can't really do that now in the west um I guess the best thing you could do is influence your when she's young by giving her more like baby toys and Dolls so she you're making this up as you go along straight up straight up I'm I'm I'm straight up I am making this up as I go along because I've never been asked this question before yeah we need a solution for this you know what I'm saying yeah no I I would say cuz I'm I'm putting myself in the position where I had a daughter and I was Raising her by myself when she was young I give her baby toys I give her doll toys like things that she can focus on her caregiving skills and then I would promote um like I would try as hard as possible to find a valuable young male for her to pair up with but you know I have find that no but sounds like you know what you know I asked this question daugh picture his daughter as hak Tua girl oh okay what the type of guys who are watching this content are they going to be in the top 1% or are they just going to be the average guy how going find time to raise that kid and like teach her how to be like a proper lady and then like find the right guy are you kidding me you need a mom in the house no but M minty that's that was that was that why I was I was asking this I'm gonna I'm gon to go take a piss I'll be back in a minute I was talking I I wasn't it was that Undead no because I understand like if I have a daughter and I'm very masculine she will follow my traits and become very masculine she might want to be playing basketball and yeah that's why I don't want you know if I have a son perfect okay I can take care of him on ug I want to Let's Ask M some question Jesus Christ let's go I don't know like this sounds like a dude using a woman's voice mod or some [ __ ] I don't know want me to start yo who want me to start hold up everyone wants you to start what the [ __ ] hey miny can I ask you a question depends what it is what's up um how old are you I'm 19 what's your body count no ask no no not asking that not asking are you I can body Count's got three posts bro she's got a [ __ ] fed bro miny she's oh damn hell yeah M are you married no what's your body count it doesn't matter I'm man exact based true doesn't matter and I'm saying that in a respectful way I'm not I don't know have you ever played Persona 4 Golden do you know who adachi is I could yeah that the [ __ ] with the glasses right no no it's the dude with like the red tie in the suit the cop dude from person I gota play G long as [ __ ] extremely rude like I got Persona 5 I play yet [ __ ] hey yo yo who you risen up about to RIS up all the [ __ ] in there all the [ __ ] hell yeah yeah all bro you would love dude you would love adachi I'm Play Take me some time but M I want to ask are you trying to get married are you trying to married have kids well yeah that's why I was asking why he doesn't think the mom is important are you uh are you a virgin yeah are you a virgin I don't want to answer that that's a no that's a that's a no that's why are youing that a sex here well a proper lady would say hell yes I'm a never had a guy before talk about sex with other here here's why why are you in a [ __ ] Twitter space ch ch this is this is why I'm assuming it okay well then I'm going to go because you're just [ __ ] rude and people are like I I am rude I am rud I am rude like Andrew Tate I am rude I'm not like Andrew Tate cuz I'm not gay I'm not gay I'm not a gay to tape but the reason why I assume you're not a virgin is cuz if you were a virgin you would immediately say yes she left she G she G she going Prim she well I know but for prosperity of the Twitter if she was a virgin she would immediately say yes because virgin females who are intelligent are proud of being virgins that's why oh yeah she would just say yeah but see it's not the point whether I see a virion chronic it's it's the disingenuousness that I don't like honest about heyy Phoenix Phoenix Phoenix if she had double D's right and I asked and if I asked her hey are you bigger than a beup what would she say she'd be like yes she' be like yes instantly because because women will instantly gas themselves up instantly yeah oh yeah for sure so when I say if you're a virgin if she if she gives anything but a yes immediately it means a no oh yeah yeah hasit any oh yeah for sure she's to gas you right she said oh Andrew what and you take out to do with the question he's ask you a question he asked you a question Andrew T gave you a kid I might you say has nothing to do with your virginity man I was gonna ask her for her number I was goingon to hit her up in the DMS but Dam we trying to up bro trying I was bringing up AI bro [ __ ] love a hey I get BC bro I got do he's trying to kill the white race with his baby away run away it's all right I don't care here's my here's my response though to because there was a black guy that was like my BBC my black race I I wanted to tell him but I couldn't cuz he was springing out too much he was talking about how white women bang black guys more than white guys I'm like look the white women who want who are willing to bank black guys are willing to bang a ton of black guys so there's black guys I my best friend is Jamaican American and I tell them all the time if a white chick racist I know a black guy exactly Wan W hey Phoenix hey Phoenix you hear this right like I'm not racist I have a black friend you heard this before no Noone offend me no no no no no I mean have you heard that before have you heard that term before I'm not racist I have a black friend have you heard that yeah of course okay okay my black friend Lily says he points to me he says of course he's racist I'm his black friend to from sou par yep straight up bro just like so I wanted to tell him five white teenage girls in the 9s in Atlanta right five white chicks their parents went on a cruise for two weeks in the Atlanta suburbs and they had a bunch of parties with high schoolers and college kids and adult men the syphilis that they spread if you go to Atlanta today 50% of all syphilis from black men any black man in Atlanta can be traced back to the five white hoes back in the 90s so when a black guy gets a white chick I'm like I'm not offended cuz I know she's not a virgin I know she's been run through I'm more concerned for the black man I'm like you better wear a rubber [ __ ] you wear a rubber [ __ ] please they nasty they nasty oh well I green something something trer words have never been spoken I'm like please please stay safe mother I got a good Buzz tonight yeah we got buzzes tonight chess any know hey um anybody else anybody new that wants to uh debate have a conversation a question a concern please let me in the Twitter space because if not we'll be ending the [ __ ] soon any any new haters and we're not talking I like 90% of your content but this one like anything that chronic I don't like how you cheer for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers chronic why don't you cheer for the Falcons anymore please we're gonna bring some haters next time Cony we're going bring some feminist some Ed feminist bro trust me you promise promise promise promise promise promise we need to make this happen bro yeah we are we're going to make this happen again it's almost like when um when two red pill guys who agree with 95% of stuff like me and you uh Jamie like we disagree on 2% of stuff we get and I admit I got butt hurt we get so butt hurt about the 2% more so than the feminist who disagrees with us 90% soon I learned you're white I'm like no this is my white brother that's it like he's my white brother well green white brother I can't get too angry at this [ __ ] white I mean in all honesty I think that's how a like 100% of these conversations is just one or two people mishear misunderstand and argument and they just go at it for 30 minutes until they realize wait a minute we just wasted like an hour our time arguing about something that doesn't matter or they have such a small disagreement but since it's just me and them you were really um focusing down on it cuz oneic I think me is worse than ever clear your response doesn't matter you're wrong well it's just like you know when when people are in depth in this philosophy this idea like the ability just the fact you think feminism is bad right they're much more willing to fight aggressively on every single point and it's good it it strengthens both parties it really does so people say oh you're wrong because you think if some if um I talked to better Bachelor a couple times he he supported Andrew Tate and prob things I roasted him a little bit for it but like I'm so cool with him it's it's such a minimal thing in the grand scope of this fight I don't really hold on to any negative feelings from that that's just me and you talk about Andrew Tate like strategy what makes a grifter a grifter I will always think Andro Tate is a grifter I will always think that mying gains is a grifter but if someone who likes mying gains calls in and we're cool and we talk about other things like 98% of [ __ ] we agree on I I don't give a [ __ ] I really don't but anyhow um Chaz I put the uh the streamyard link in the uh warband chat go ahead and jump in on that um link do you have a YouTube channel link yeah yeah I do it's it's in it's in the it's uh same thing on here link shot 1945 can you DM me the link to it or the hom page I see what you did there yeah DM me the homepage to it and I'll put it in the chat are you on my YouTube chat too uh no I'm just on my phone for right now because you know I'm running the space but but yeah I'll send you I'll send you the the dety next next time um you're watching the show on YouTube at least um just add me and I'll give you mod permissions because with Mod permissions you could put a link to your YouTube or Twitter or whatever and I'll give you the mod so you can uh link that [ __ ] cuz you did me a big favor tonight yeah straight up big up to link for setting this up yeah like whether or not we uh argue and [ __ ] at each other for you know three hours big up to link for set for getting it all together thank you man abolutely so yeah man um just DM me out on Discord or Twitter whatever and um hey Twitter guys uh Dr proof Sergio Phoenix Uncle Tom Jamie those were the ones I talked to I think uh thanks for coming on to this Twitter space and talking to me you guys are 10,000% more reasonable than the male feminist commies I'm used to talking to so even though if I called you a bit short [ __ ] or whatever you're still better than Destiny you're still better than Lauren Southern don't worry about it we're we're still somewhat cool we're lukewarm okay okay awesome peace guys later on dead Okay that was a pretty decent stream to be honest I mean I like I said earlier I think that's a lot of those guys that you were going back and forth with it was over that one thing that maybe one of you just didn't understand like the point you were making but 0 90% of everything else you would agree with the guy yeah it's just how it goes um [ __ ] Duke is sending me all this uh new artwork from the new video game about zombie [ __ ] hey yo yo yo yo any cash app donations let me check let me check I got to make sure you're on the like important [ __ ] like we we got to stay on point and let me just say I drank a full bottle of mead got like two beers I got that bro it was so [ __ ] good we got we got Matt K Matt K says black gamer pun or Asian goth pun gamer like okay assuming that they're both like not fat you know well here's here's the thing here's the thing yeah yeah does she play the games I like to play because a black gamer punti could be like I like to play The Sims and animal crossing right right or she could be like I want to play seven days to die and I want to play the forest like if the if the black chick wants to play fighting games and we get so [ __ ] mad at each other midet right like that' be the best thing there's a 5 foot2 black chick in the fny games that would get so angry because you like destroyed her in the second round she would pull out the plug of the power of the of the station you be you would be so accepted like why' you do that and then she would just take off her shirt and then it would just mind wipe you you be like huh like reset instant it's like when she gets a you need a you need a competitive black gamer trck because when she starts losing she'll just like I know how to like erase his memory let me have sex with him God don't give me hope man don't give me hope yeah there's some of them out there they're kind of rare um Asian goth or black gamer chck that's why she's a queen uh sorry sorry depends on what the the Asian chick likes to do to be honest like if I can game while she just chills it's the Asian cheick but if she's just like let's go to the art gallery let's go to the protest no [ __ ] I got to grind out ranks what the [ __ ] you on about [ __ ] wait wait I'm in dead have you heard of Deadlock uh I think I no no I I haven't I it's like a valve combination of oh yeah yeah yeah they it was like in pre-alpha or whatever in I got invite code already I got it downloaded I need to invite you to it so uh because I'm thinking deadlock dude I got a good feeling deadlock is going to be huge so we need to get the war band up in deadlock to do like even the fans like six ver six I'll stream that [ __ ] they be like hey yo chronic what do you think about punti I think you need to go to Lan C you dumb mother [ __ ] hey chronic I just uh I just got wiped by everyone uh what do you think about single mothers shut the [ __ ] up I think you need to up your skills beta I think you need to learn how to [ __ ] Aim Shoot your goddamn shot [ __ ] exactly bro but hey uh what you got going on in the next couple days bro uh so I'm streaming Persona 4 episod like episode IUS it's a lot of fun I I need to work on uh I've got two videos I need to edit together right I got the script all actually actually no one of them I still need to type out the script right the other I have the audio put together I just got to edit it so I just I need to buckle down and get on that grind set i'm Al but real quick I'm thinking should I do a short gaming stream after you and if so if you have the energy bro why not you have the you can put the link in the chat a million times why not well it's like I still haven't made the thing yet I'm like if I do play what do I play maybe some uh drunk Street Fighter would be good uh I think people like more Pokemon more Persona Street figh like the individual matches or whatever but that's just me that's just me I don't know no no I get you I mean the reason why you watch a street fighter play you know a street fighter session it's not for the individual oh wait drunk black myth Wukong bro Drunk Monkey you had that game yeah yeah I've been playing it oh dud you absolutely do that [ __ ] dude Drunk Monkey yeah let me get the stream set up we'll play like an hour drunk black monkey made that stream title why do you have to add black we don't need I mean it is called black myuk Kong yeah okay yeah let me get the stream set up but hey good talking with you man hey that was fun it was good you uh helped me out when I had to go take a piss I mean while you were gone I asked that chick hey what's your body count then she immediately got super defensive wish I was there cuz I heard her I heard her upset about it but I'm like I know it's not zero like the second I could I was like like I I waited to get her at first I thought it was a dude with a voice changer no no like I I I always think of that too right but but like the fact that she got so offended instantly I'm like no this is a chick so the other guy asked hey how old are you the second she said 19 I'm like okay legal let's ask her punti pun okay hey man I'll talk to you on Discord later okay awesome awesome well hey have a great rest of your night I go to sleep peace peace then there was one one warband one Warrior if you want to support the show if you want to support the warband consider donating to cash app. shine under chronic that's cash app. shine under chronic it's been under chronic guys take it easy [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] oh [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] you [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] it's child the Dream It's child the [Music] child dream child [Music] the Tre [Music] [Music] la [Music] it's just it's [Music] [Music] just it's just it's just [Music] [Music] let W up [Music] la
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